Even in 2002, the level of debate on QT was far better than it is today.
@dambrooks7578
Жыл бұрын
The BBC was the Big Brother party of Labour voluntarily setting the standards of its media wing presents, said Winston Smith.
@dambrooks7578
Жыл бұрын
I reread that recently ✊🏼
@blue24563
Жыл бұрын
20 years ago they were appalled by a TV programme about a live autopsy. Today, that programme would be the least tawdry on the schedule. 😂
@harryantino
2 жыл бұрын
Tony Benn and Peter Hitchens, my cup runneth over. Anymore content you can find would be brilliant.
@bewilderedbrit8928
2 жыл бұрын
Does the panel think that Boris Johnson would make a better Boris Johnson than Boris Johnson?
@patrick_dy3r
8 ай бұрын
“I believe Boris Johnson would be Boris Johnson, and we shouldn’t expect Boris Johnson to be any more Boris Johnson if things are ever going to turn around in this country!” *Camera swoops over audience applauding*
@oliverbayley3509
3 ай бұрын
Wouldn't it be better if the government just admitted that it had got it wrong?
@Taporeee
2 ай бұрын
Ahaa Haas Haaa and might I add.. AHaaa
@Taporeee
2 ай бұрын
Benn and Hitchens on one panel? Box Office
@mozb87
Жыл бұрын
I find these old QT fascinating, any one know where else to find them? There is one after 911 on KZitem too which is interesting
@ewangent
Жыл бұрын
Leader of the current Welsh Conservatives was in the audience there in an interaction with Benn...
@willgiles6848
11 ай бұрын
Tony Benn was like Nostradamus on the Iraq war, completely saw it coming
@Ennis85
10 ай бұрын
Saw what coming? Vague predictions of violence?
@seanmoran2743
9 ай бұрын
An objective military historian could gave predicted the results of that disgraceful decision
@MattSingh1
Ай бұрын
*Total bullshit. Peter's brother, Christopher, easily and effortlessly defeated all of the anti-Iraq-war arguments.*
@richardabbot8724
2 жыл бұрын
Ah, the good old days, before the veil was pulled back and we saw politicians for who they really are.
@Mr___X
2 жыл бұрын
I'd say the veil is well and truly off at 25:00
@wessexfox5197
2 жыл бұрын
Peter and Tony are the only two decent people with genuine convictions on this programme. Although I fall more into the Hitchens camp, this country would’ve much better with Benn at the helm, someone who would’ve disrupted our rotten plutocratic system.
@Mr___X
2 жыл бұрын
I doubt it. Benn was a man after his time. He would have been far better off in the 18th or 19th Centuries as some sort of moral religious reformer. He had little to offer in the late 20th and certainly the early 21st century other than platitudes. Like Powell, politics was no longer a game for men driven by morality, it was only about managed decline after the 1940s.
@Mr___X
2 жыл бұрын
To go even further, I would say he ended up what Lenin called a 'useful idiot' to the more machiavellian types who used internationalism as a means to power. Consider the revelations about the grmng gngs that were well underway at this time, and what Benn did (both directly and indirectly) to protect and enable it to happen.
@shanefitzgerald2614
11 ай бұрын
He was cheated out of it......Tories labelling themselves as Labour voted against him in the labour leadership campaign and defected from the party after, daylight robbery...people of the UK lost out immensely from not having him at the forefront of the government or the opposition
@Ennis85
10 ай бұрын
Tony Benn decent? So he didn't praise Mao Zedong then?
@wessexfox5197
10 ай бұрын
@@Ennis85 I have never once heard Benn ever praise Mao. I’m interested to know where the source is for that.
@dereknicholl4300
Жыл бұрын
Those were the days!!!!!!
@perperson199
2 жыл бұрын
Peter starting of like a champ
@alg7115
2 жыл бұрын
Have you got any qt from the time of the fuel crisis in 2000
@Chris-kz7us
9 ай бұрын
Peter was spot on about education
@patrick_dy3r
Жыл бұрын
26:50-27:00 WELP....
@BIGT537
3 ай бұрын
What a fascinating watch. Im struck by many things but chiefly how the hawks are so keen to embark on war despite seeming so insipid themselves. I also struggle to remember that everything they discuss was under a Labour government who make Sunak's Cons look liberal. Strange times but i'd be back in them in an instant.
@FarObserver
Жыл бұрын
Wow, over 20 years ago. Feeling old lol
@moluther2826
3 ай бұрын
23:51 That one didn't age quite so well
@ericboxer3053
2 жыл бұрын
wow there were English people in the UK back then?
@stephenmurray2851
2 жыл бұрын
Hold on. You mean Britain hasn't always been multiracial!?
@bell191991
Жыл бұрын
This episode was filmed in Cardiff, you Muppet. Most of the audience are Welsh, not English.
@rogersweet3608
11 ай бұрын
Home Nations..yes!
@whichsideruonsaoirse8656
2 жыл бұрын
That didn't age well for Francis Maude
@dambrooks7578
Жыл бұрын
I miss Wedgwood-Benn.
@rogersweet3608
11 ай бұрын
Tony was a gem!!
@dambrooks7578
11 ай бұрын
@@rogersweet3608 indeed he was, amazing how he is appreciated yet his friend and colleague Corbyn is still seen as the worst. I might not be a Corbynite or whatever it is called seeing as he was just a backbencher until he was voted into being the leader, a leader that had less MPs stand down than what Sir Saintly Stalin, sorry I meant Starmer, has because of the Islamaphobic attitude towards breaking human rights which is strange for the human rights lawer that is worrying for the future of the country that is more likely to elect Labour because the country is sick of the Conservative party.
@SagaciousFrank
3 ай бұрын
@@dambrooks7578, Benn never did a craven u-turn on his opposition to the EU. I'm not sure of Benn's stance on abortion and the IRA, but Corbyn would have had babies throttled at birth and loved Sinn Fein.
@revol148
2 ай бұрын
@@rogersweet3608 I genuinely miss him along with Bill Deedes, John Peel, Christopher Hitchens and Joe Strummer - the world is a bleaker place without those voices.
@TheGava4
3 ай бұрын
03:45..😳😳HANG ON!!! Isn’t that guy a BBC Washington correspondent? He looks familiar
@revol148
2 ай бұрын
@TheGava4 NO - he does look a bit like the the late Sir Christopher Meyer but it's certainly not him !
@davidd3777
Жыл бұрын
Hitchens turned out to be spot on about Iraq. Mr logic
@michaelmccomb2594
7 ай бұрын
No one Peter Hitchens “I am an imperialist”
@harryantino
6 ай бұрын
@@michaelmccomb2594he knew what was best for Iraq. Be conquered completely or not at all
@MattSingh1
Ай бұрын
*Total nonsense. Peter's brother Christopher easily defeated all of the arguments against the liberation of, including his brother's arguments.*
@ProfessorChomsky
5 ай бұрын
I've always had a special loathing for Maude.
@blue24563
Жыл бұрын
24:01 There’s absolutely no question that there are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq 😂😂😂
@JamalBrown-k1x
11 ай бұрын
That was what the intelligence said at the time.
@revol148
2 ай бұрын
41:33 this concerned a witch based in Portsmouth called Helen Duncan - she was imprisoned for the rest of the war as the authorities were worried that she may have end up predicting the day and time of the D-day invasion !
@bertiodvonrastenburger1129
2 жыл бұрын
Forgot how much Tony Benn sounded like Zippy from Rainbow......
@garylynch9206
6 ай бұрын
Never noticed but now can never not notice!!!
@alexanderewing3779
3 ай бұрын
Weapons of mass distraction. The only time i've heard Peter Hitchens make any sense!
@Chris-kz7us
2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't catch an all white panel like this on bbc today
@MontyCantsin5
2 жыл бұрын
The last QT I watched from 30th June 2022 had an all white panel so your bizarre comment doesn't make any sense.
@Mr___X
2 жыл бұрын
The real eye opener is the audience. They've overwhelmingly changed the population within a generation.
@harryantino
2 жыл бұрын
@@Mr___X only in your mind, a quick look at the demography of the country shows it still 80% White (or something close to that). The demography of Modern QTs and Advertising is representative of London, but not really of anywhere much else in the UK.
@Mr___X
2 жыл бұрын
@@harryantino go to your local provincial town anywhere in the country. the visible %s are literally changing by the year at this point such is the rate of immig.
@Mr___X
2 жыл бұрын
@@harryantino of course, one cannot trust their eyes and intuition. number on official paper is the de facto truth. the party is always right.
@sticksman1979
Жыл бұрын
Answer the bloody question!
@stanmonzon5788
2 жыл бұрын
Does Peter Hitchens temporarily go insane between 26:35 and 26:50?
@federiconoguera1162
Жыл бұрын
Funny how this would be torn down by modern Peter Hitchens.
@melvintyers3643
Жыл бұрын
His insanity goes far beyond 26:50. Try 2023.
@phat_dike
Жыл бұрын
@@melvintyers3643Nah he's actually pretty good
@seanmoran2743
9 ай бұрын
@@melvintyers3643spot over COVID !
@tomhowell7944
Жыл бұрын
49:05 that childish snigger by Tony Benn looks like he'd been caught out.. yep that's why we encourage people to go to uni .. so we can soak up youth unemployment and hide it from the numbers
@uluccoban8875
5 ай бұрын
1:30 "I don't thing firefighters are humans and deserve anything" *people clapping*
@garymitchell5899
4 ай бұрын
That isn't the quote you clown. No doubt you are projecting your own views.
@Mr___X
2 жыл бұрын
25:00 - strange line of questioning, as if one type of victim is more important than any other? Not to mention a rather ahistorical reading of the past, and indeed what happened in the ME after 2003.
@mangledskateboarding1553
6 ай бұрын
51:00
@stephenmurray2851
10 ай бұрын
At 52:00 Ben says we shouldn't keep a child killer in prison because hate damages people who hate. What does this absolute garbage even mean?
@shellsbignumber2
6 ай бұрын
Francis Maude, how wrong can one man be. 23:10
@patsyparisi2620
2 жыл бұрын
Andrew RT Davies in the audience. Welsh conservative leader. Hmmm
@mrcreosote3808
Жыл бұрын
Oh man Benn pieces him up at 53:37
@jamiemacdonald9030
2 жыл бұрын
Tony benn was right
@thomasjamessemark3398
2 жыл бұрын
No, he was left
@matthewdrake9067
2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasjamessemark3398 Left where?
@Mr___X
2 жыл бұрын
He was correct, but tolerated as impotent. It's no good being right without being able to do anything about it.
@marklfazey9705
2 жыл бұрын
Oh dear really?
@marklfazey9705
2 жыл бұрын
It’s all good until other people’s money runs out my man .
@onastick2411
3 ай бұрын
Tony Ben, half a century of disaster, never learned a thing.
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