personally, if I created a pattern and found it being sold as an item or the pattern itself all over the internet I would feel proud that I created something so many people loved and wanted to reuse and share. Is that not the point in creating and selling your creation in the first place? or is it the recognition one looks for in said creation? OH WAIT!!! could it be the money going into the pockets of others for the brain power I had in creating the pattern? Again, I would be proud that MY pattern was able to help out a family or person who has needs like I do.
@ShariLynnSmith
7 жыл бұрын
yes some of this may be true but really copyrighting a quilt pattern? most of the patterns are hundreds of years old. the whole letter in the mail is a old wives tale. if you have something unique yes I agree with you. however I just don't see how you can copyright a quilt pieced pattern maybe the whole quilt again if it's unique. the idea that this is being put out into the world of quilting and people are going to copyright something that many people come up with just playing with material is disturbing to me and sad. so the whole world of quilting is shut down because people are now sending in patterns to the copyright office so no one can quilt anything for fear of being sued? trust that people will support your work. sorry but who's the jerk?
@corhanem
7 жыл бұрын
The simple solution is to not buy any potentially copyrighted patterns. We won't have anyone crying about supposed lost revenue because they won't have any revenue to lose. I make my own quilts and have for many years. If I ever decided to write down the patterns, they would be free use to all because I'd much rather instill a love of quilting than a sense of lawbreaking in fellow crafters. This is getting ridiculous.
@annetrenary2875
6 жыл бұрын
I purchase "a lot" of quilt panels and have never seen or been told they are copyright. How would that work?
@cosmo3074
6 жыл бұрын
"The minute I write something, it is copyrighted. I do not have to send it to the copyright office to have a copyright on it." ----- Are you kidding me???!
@cosmo3074
6 жыл бұрын
And, the comment about "taking a picture of the day's newspaper next to your design as PROOF" is BS, too. Anybody can keep an old newspaper and claim they took a picture on that date.
@bubblesvs
7 жыл бұрын
2 things bothered me about this video. #1. it is obvious that this an emotionally charged subject for you and as such, makes me question your credibility regarding this specific topic. #2. I don't believe your information is correct anyway and it concerns me that you are using this platform to spread misinformation in you role as quilt instructor.
@Happybidr
7 жыл бұрын
bubblesvs Hmm. While she didn't cover the issue of "use" and "permission " very well, the information she gives is accurate based on all the training on copyright and intellectual property that I've been through, including being married to an appellate lawyer. It's a hot issue on the Internet, what with content being stolen on a regular basis. Having duplicate articles on different websites can downgrade both sites (by Google's listings/rankings), which can mean big $$ lost. I would strongly urge authors and designers to put a notice on their publication (or website, etc,) that 1) gives notice of who owns the copyright, 2) what uses are permitted (I.e., personal use only, no commercial use, etc.), how to be reached and if holder is open to some commercial use under what terms or terms to be negotiated. If it's important to you , be prepared to defend your rights. This could involve just hiring a lawyer (for a lot less than $20k!) to send a nastygram letting the recipient know they've violated your rights and asking them to remedy it (take it down, pay you a portion, whatever. Most people will respond positively to that letter, avoiding further action. Especially quilters.
@bubblesvs
7 жыл бұрын
Happybidr everything I've read has shown me that once the pattern is paid for, the designer cannot tell me what to do with my end product. It would be like Microsoft telling me that I could only use their products to not make any money.
@jmdenison
7 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right. It's called the "first sale doctrine" and one sale extinguishes the right to sue for infringement. When they put in the patterns "licensed only for non commercial use" that's basically a dream. No court would enforce it. Get your patterns and sell away.
@MyChilepepper
6 жыл бұрын
Lol, I’m making a nine patch quilt for sale. Whoever owns the copyright design in the grave better turn around and state your case.
@equitime77
7 жыл бұрын
The thing is esp in the quilting world is that there are only so many blocks that can be used. Unless you are saying that a specific block IN a specific colour way is the copyright. Because people can make things up potentially at the same time and have them both copywritten. Are they both breaking each other's copyright?
@kellysherrard1361
7 жыл бұрын
that being said, many people make quilts for others and these people in turn may not want the quilt and will sell it to make money if they need it. Many quilt patterns even if someone hasn't seen it, can be made up by someone. The thought that the pattern is some how a miraculous thought this person had, is foolish. There are only so many things that can be done with quilting patterns, whether it is with triangles, rectangles, circles, or fussy cutting.
@judeann7423
5 жыл бұрын
If selling a pieced quilt from a purchased pattern is illegal, because the pattern is under copyright, is it also illegal to use fabric to create a product and sell it? Even using the photographs of completed quilts on cover pages of patterns? Patterns on fabrics are also considered intellectual property, and by using a photograph of a quilt created with fabric, (other than your own designed fabric,) would that also be illegal? So, would we need to get written permission from the copyright holders of the pattern and the fabric to legally sell it?
@ajnormandgroome
5 жыл бұрын
To copyright, it must be original.
@dallastaylor5479
7 жыл бұрын
really? you mean if I make a bow tie quilt and sell it i am breaking the copyright of dozens of pattern designers? LOL. I don't think so.
@Babs-Veterans-are-Family
4 жыл бұрын
Like others have said this is very emotionally charged. I can see someone taking credit for a design you created. If someone wants a quilt from me I have every right to be compensated for my time, my gas getting fabric, batting, thread, starch etc. My time shopping, sewing, pressing etc. is compensated. Electricity running my iron and sewing machine all costs money. You cannot copyright someone's time. As for patterns often times I add my own spin such as using scraps or strip sets cutting them to rectangles for sashing, or borders. I've changed the sizes of strips, added more borders made the pattern scrappy etc. Lots of ways to alter the pattern even by a little. We're artists putting our spin on it. Simple if you feel so strong about this and don't want people selling their time for a design you created don't make patterns for sale keep them for yourself.
@RachelArchelaus
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting about this. I was pretty sure this was the case, but it's great to know for sure. :)
@NationalQuiltersCircle
3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@evelynwerker9402
7 жыл бұрын
A four is a four patch how can it be copy righted. A simple answer is don't print a pattern to sell.
@tammyreneemc5552
4 жыл бұрын
The amount of rubbish in this video gave me a headache!
@annesitz134
7 жыл бұрын
2 questions--#1 what about teaching a class on what I think would be in public domain (? cathedral window) using a newer technique that is on you tube or a quilting magazine? #2 teaching a class (I'm talking about a local quilt guild of maybe 20 members on both questions) using one of the specialty rulers?
@NationalQuiltersCircle
7 жыл бұрын
Hello Anne, when it comes to teaching, the copyright rules still apply. You can teach anybody's published designs that are sold in patterns, books, magazines etc. as well as old patterns such as cathedral window that are in the public domain. What ever you do however, you MUST respect and honor the original designer/writer and not only give them credit for the work, but also REQUIRE your students to purchase the pattern, book or magazine that the design/instructions you are using, is found in. No sharing of patterns etc. No copying of patterns or portions from a book. The exception is for magazines. If the magazine is out of print and no longer available in stores, contact the publisher and ask to purchase the magazines or ask for WRITTEN permission to copy the pattern. If permission is granted, make sure that you write the words "Copied with permission of_____________" on the copies. As for anything that is is the public domain such as Cathedral Windows, Log Cabin, Pinwheel et al. These designs are in the public domain but that does not mean that you can use someone else's written instructions for them without giving credit and again, requiring students to purchase a copy of the pattern/book containing those instructions. So, consider writing your own instructions then you are free to hand those out included in the price of the class. However, if you write your own instructions about someone else's special technique, you are on slippery ground. Make sure that you include the words, "based on the technique by___________" or based on techniques learned from_____________".Which takes us to the term "Intellectual Property". If I teach a technique that I developed then those ideas belong to me and I share them with my students. It is normal and expected that those students will in turn use those techniques for their own personal artwork. However, if one of those students then turns around and teaches my technique then that is clear and blatant theft of my Intellectual Property. The laws on Intellectual Property are much looser than copyright, hard to prove and hard to prosecute. Common decency dictates here, if it's not yours, don't act like it is. Ask for permission. Give credit where credit is due. I finally got to the point that I had to tell my students at the beginning of a class that what they were about to learn was my Intellectual Property. That I was sharing it with them for their personal use only and that they were not allowed to share it with others or teach the techniques. Then, after being robbed of my Intellectual Property so often, I simply stopped teaching. Hope this helps, Heather Thomas
@janhulse9518
6 жыл бұрын
I have recently learned via a sewing group I belong to on Facebook,that one cannot copyright a pattern.be it a quilt pattern or a knitting pattern or a dress or other pattern. this one lady made up a new design and using older clothes,made a new designed blouse. she then was selling the pattern on her Etsy shop and then found a Chinese company had produced for the mass market,her blouses. AND THERE WAS NOTHING SHE COULD DO.
@dorisr2832
6 жыл бұрын
This is why I stay away from buying patterns and quilt books. So if people want to make money on their patterns, they won't make it from me except for Missouri Star Quilt Company patterns. They say whatever you make using their patterns or ideas is your business and do what you want with the stuff you MAKE, and there's a good chance you might even buy fabric from MSQC, or someone will ask about the pattern and buy that, too. (I can understand NOT reprinting/distributing the directions, but selling the quilts you make? I wouldn't be selling the "pattern." I'd be selling MY time to make the thing. I would've paid the designer for her time by buying the pattern.) And maybe some of the pattern writers are ripping off some descendants of grandma who made the first log cabin design in a covered wagon on the prairie. Who knows!
@preservingwithlove8772
2 жыл бұрын
I have not quilted, but I am starting my first one. If you’re using a Dresden plate in your pattern you stole the original persons idea of that Dresden plate. You did not get permission to take that person proprietor idea of that very design. I get not reselling your pattern,but that’s it. So the cookie cutter you buy that has a snowman shape you better not sell those cookies for profit. Or a restaurant that makes a traditional recipe idk the moment I use different colors or if I make one suddle change fair play! Also again you did not come up with the original dressden plate idk then you want to profit the sweat equity that a person put into making that quilt then don’t sell your design. Idk this doesn’t sound right!
@homecookteresagreen
7 жыл бұрын
That is exactly why I do not use patterns at all. I have seen common quilt patterns in books that were copyrighted that I do not feel were original works. Some of the patterns were original and some were not.
@jmdenison
7 жыл бұрын
The book can be copyrighted while the contents (a classic quilt design) is not copyrightable. Clothing designs are exempt from copyright law. Probably because women do it and so its not important enough for Federal Court.
@bdgoins1
6 жыл бұрын
I have a few issues with this video every designer or artist borrows from others ideas etc there is so much out there in eminent domain and her demeanor puts me off because all your "ideas" come from others in some shape form or fashion
@lucir1000
5 жыл бұрын
You put it so well!
@annetrenary2875
6 жыл бұрын
I'm curious ... I buy a pattern "have bought 1 pattern in the past 3 yrs" I may have used a partial portion but I have NEVER made it exactly like the pattern. I throw in my own touches here & there. Is that illegal? My thought is, if you are selling patterns to say 1000 quilters out there in the world, how can you say, the public is copying your designs? Doesn't seem to make a lot of sense, plus how much money do you make by selling (ex: 1000 patterns). If you want to sell patterns to make money then why do you want to be greedy on if someone makes one of your designs and sell it. I HAVE PLACED YOUR NAME & REASON WHY NOT TO EVER PURCHASE A PATTERN FROM YOU, in my go to book. I have a feeling that really doesn't matter anyway.
@Dees23
5 жыл бұрын
This information is not accurate. You can make a quilt and sell that quilt. Your written material is copywrite. What I make from that pattern is not a copywrite violation. Just like clothing patterns ...they cannot be copywrite. Please speak with a copywrite attorney.
@samuelpenn2973
7 жыл бұрын
Greedy much?
@janhulse9518
6 жыл бұрын
imitation is a form of flattery! get over yourself. once something is out there in a lot of areas,it is open season.if I have bought a pattern and a friend wants a copy,I am certainly going to share it.
@jazdramafree
7 жыл бұрын
so the pattern instructions are copy written? Is it duplicating the exact quilt that's breaking copyright law? thanks!
@NationalQuiltersCircle
7 жыл бұрын
Hello, no, duplicating the exact quilt from a pattern that you have purchased or have down loaded legally does not break copyright law. Pattern designers expect you to make the quilt from their patterns as directed. However, if you show that quilt you must give credit to the designer. Legally, if you sell that quilt then half of the proceeds should go to the designer. If you want to make copies of someone else's designs to sell, you must get their permission first. This is called licensing. If someone contacts me because they want to make and sell copies of one of my designs, I give them permission to make three only of any one design. With a licensing agreement you don't usually have to pay the designer a cut. Hope this helps, Heather Thomas
@denisemcintosh4938
7 жыл бұрын
I think she better talk to a lawyer if u do not copyright through legal means u do not get to claim copy right and once u purchase a pattern u can make that pattern and give it away! they can not tell the purchaser they can not make the pattern! u must copy right your patterns the correct way! the only thing u can't do is make the quilt in mass and sell it! thats if it was actually copyrighted! i am sick of seeing inaccurate information put out there! these designers are getting rediculas if u don't want your pattern made by others keep it to yourself! do not publish it, do not mass produce it! they also can not tell u that u must use the fabric they did ect! plus just because u draw something on a piece of paper does not mean it's copyrighted! please go look the law up and consult an attorney that has an extensive history in copyright law!
@dottielynch9763
7 жыл бұрын
Denise McIntosh Your info is incorrect also. A purchased written pattern cannot be re-printed or in any way duplicated and then re-sold, but a quilt made from that purchased pattern can be made by the purchaser as many times as they want and those quilts sold. Poor soul won't get the money they should get for making the quilt...but that's just because people in general don't know the complexities of making quilts.
@redhairgirl6368
7 жыл бұрын
so you take from the public realm change a few words and then call it your own to get money from us and then lecture us I don't even quilt but still found you to be greedy and a little hostile god bless you
@Ellyria714
Жыл бұрын
After seeing your incorrect information, I immediately unsubscribed from your emails.
@NationalQuiltersCircle
Жыл бұрын
Hello Naimi, I am sorry to hear that. Please keep in mind that this video is 5 years old. I will forward on your feedback today.
@melissanoble1621
6 жыл бұрын
I can understand giving credit where credit is due no doubt about it. At a quilt shop, one buys the pattern, buys the fabric, thread and all notions needed to cut up the fabric into pieces to reconnect those cut up pieces (using their own efforts, time and money) into a quilt. No one that I know of has the same workmanship as another. Some maybe better than others, and piecing is not always the same either. No pattern author can claim triangles, squares, rectangles, circles any geometric shape as their own, is this wrong? Like I said, I do believe in giving credit where credit is due, but, if cut a bunch of fabric into squares or circles or and sew them together and quilt and bind the project, I can sell all I want. No one needs anyone's "pattern" or "design" to do that. I think I just thought of a paradigm shift. Just my thoughts on this.
@WhateverHunterLiz
6 жыл бұрын
I disagree that 80% of Quilter’s purchase patterns. I know tons of quilters and they use and make their own patterns.
@glitter2glaze21
5 жыл бұрын
Your exhausted, i know it all, be all end all voice was enough to annoy me but this was enough for me to end looking at your video's. The printed pattern should not be duplicated and sold but the actually worked quilt by a quilter is unique to the hand that made it. No one sew exactly the same. Haha, you tried it!
@bebeveritas7306
6 жыл бұрын
I ran across this video while watching different quilting videos. Are you serious??? If I buy someone’s pattern, make a quilt and sell it, that should be legal. How many quilts can one person own? I either make them for myself or for gofts or to sell. As long as I don’t share the pattern I bought it should be none of your business.
@bebeveritas7306
6 жыл бұрын
Sorry, I was not done. I have tons of quilt books, and so,e antique quilts and there’s only so much you can do with basic quilts and they’ve been copied for hundreds of years. Ok, I know, let’s bust everyone for making quilts at all be cause somewhere along the line they’ve used techniques found in copywrited geometry books. You come across as very angry and ticked off. Did you find that someone pirated one of your $$$ quilt patterns? I’d love to see all the quilts you’ve ever made to see if you’ve violated the law. Whenever I’ve purchased patterns on Etsy, the creators always say, you can sell the stuff you make from my pattern, you just can’t sell the pattern, and, oh, by the way, if you want to be nice state when you sell the product, you made, was made from my pattern. You sound like a very mean-spirited selfish person. I’m sure you’ve prob. Used so,some else’s pattern, so, why are you not paying them? Shame on you!
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