"I was surprised that it was pink underneath" Bro- what?
@redcitadel9123
3 жыл бұрын
I know, I saw that part and was like??????? The fuck??????????
@cya.6616
3 жыл бұрын
@@redcitadel9123 wait what does that mean?
@flowerpower003
3 жыл бұрын
@@cya.6616 She assumed being dark skinned would make injuries look different
@luckyjess6427
3 жыл бұрын
Literally a lady not trying to be racist while simultaneously being so backward
@edenpeacock9503
3 жыл бұрын
I watched that live and let me tell you...the number of people who didn’t talk about it at all or even realise that it was an issue was absurd holy shit.
@DanniBiersack
4 жыл бұрын
god that clip of the blue eye experiment in the UK was one of the most painful things i've had to watch. i hate it here lmao they sound exactly like my parents
@Mightypi
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i had a little break after
@mikesSoul789
4 жыл бұрын
Dont hate your country , improve your country
@chocokittybo
4 жыл бұрын
@@mikesSoul789 the two are not opposites
@reddyshreddy5050
4 жыл бұрын
@@mikesSoul789 the way to fix a problem is to acknowledge its there
@mauzki-
4 жыл бұрын
exactly! I had a bit of stint that "oh in mainland europe its all better" but its not, and it won't be if you have that mindset. Fix what you have here, appricate what we have achived here but still fight for the things were lacking. I also would proclaim this for everyone not just us anglos.
@sonnyocad287
4 жыл бұрын
I don't think enough people have seen the Jane Elliot experiment in the UK. I remember how painfully irritating the whole thing was, with the subjects constantly not following the basic instructions necessary to get the ball rolling.
@ycylchgames
4 жыл бұрын
@Grimnir bwahahahaha
@user-tx5vr2lu6e
4 жыл бұрын
Grimnir why would it make people feel guilty to understand the experiences of minorities?
@billybobferguson3946
4 жыл бұрын
@Grimnir ...oh yeah, that's why the brown eyes-blue eyes experiment has always been so well received.. because it's inaccurate.. Lol.
@billybobferguson3946
4 жыл бұрын
@Grimnir "I’m doing the exercise and giving lectures about its effects all over the U.S. and in several locations overseas... Over the last 18 years I’ve given lectures in Australia, Canada, Germany, the Netherlands, Northern Ireland, and *Saudi Arabia* to name those I can remember." www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/an-unfinished-crusade-an-interview-with-jane-elliott/ This legitimately wasn't even difficult to find. She doesn't do this in exclusively white countries. But yeah, it's allll just white guilt. Nobody eeeeever does racial sensitivity training in non-white countries. It's tooootally just aaaaall a ploy to make those poor, post-settler, post-colonial white people feel bad about all the discrimination they actively participate in. Poor, poor, oppressed white people. On a side note: "I don't see non-white countries being told racism is bad" is literally a stem from neo-nazi talking points. A whataboutism designed to call discussions about ongoing racism into question despite the fact racism *is* criticised and protested in other countries, just that white racism has the biggest global effect. Be more careful with the content you're taking in, because it's worrying to see how blatantly far right in nature it is.
@cezarcatalin1406
4 жыл бұрын
Grimnir Here comes the fasci... uhhh... I mean “classical liberal” saying empathetic education means “socialism” probably as a whistle insult. Sweetheart, you wouldn’t be able to explain what socialism is even if I would give you the definition. By the way... it’s funny that you nitpicked the one paragraph from the whole article without giving any attention to the context created by the whole text. Imagine looking at the 10 commandments and nitpicking “do not lie” from them as an excuse to go tell children that Santa isn’t real and their parents are untrustworthy liars... lmao. Yeah, technically, if you want to twist it, it is “white guilt”. But should you just say “sorry” to a photo of MLK every morning to alleviate the symptoms of white guilt ? Because I’m pretty sure that those lessons don’t just tell you to feel guilty - they teach you to be A RESPONSIBLE ADULT that (instead of acting like a child that stole the cookies) would rather act like someone who understands the problems and divides in our society and tries to actually fix them through various methods like direct activism, at least if possible... but always keeping in mind to not trust crooked politicians telling you “immigrants bad” because ~insert bullshit reason here~. ... I swear, adults are sometimes just entitled children with a paper thin skin that act like karen princesses. It is not unreasonable to imagine these days a situation when a doctor tells someone that their health isn’t perfect only for that person to angrily leave the office only after imputatively coercing the doctor into vocalising a clear apology. 🤣
@theshamanite
3 жыл бұрын
"N Word vs Cracker" is the funniest news headline I've seen from CNN. Hits like The Onion honestly XD
@KingBobXVI
3 жыл бұрын
I think I saw that segment they did when it came out - one of them pointed out, "the more offensive one is the one you aren't willing to write in the title" and that shut up some of the whiners pretty quick.
@tristanheaton2127
3 жыл бұрын
How could you say the c word
@tristanheaton2127
2 жыл бұрын
@Adam Riddle I'm guessing this is a joke
@theshamanite
2 жыл бұрын
@Adam Riddle Lemme guess, "eliminate the brown people before they replace us"? You're kind of a loser if you believe this, Adam. No one's coming out to commit mayocide bc race supremacy is bad. If you can't accept racial equality, you're okay with race supremacy if it's "your kind", and that's just pathetic.
@kirisque
2 жыл бұрын
hey im asian and im not exactly sure the meaning of "cracker" or how much offensive is that can someone explain to me?
@dontbothermeimjust12
3 жыл бұрын
As a Polish guy, I am extremely aware of racism in the UK, especially after Brexit. I can't believe how blind some people are to this.
@TB-dz8lm
3 жыл бұрын
Don't let it get you down. Nearly half of the UK voted against Brexit (I did) and if opinion polls are to be believed, well over half of the UK now think that we should not have voted Brexit. There are many people in the UK that, like me, find racist and xenophobic Brits embaressing and repulsive.
@michaelcrockis7679
2 жыл бұрын
The Poles are still more racist than the Russians. Keep an eye on the hands. Keep an eye on the hands. See?
@rafalrafal3469
2 жыл бұрын
Zdajesz sobie tez sprawe z sytuacja lgbt w polsce?
@codex8085
Жыл бұрын
Have also seen discrimination by Polish people of certain people from certain parts of this country. I know which is more obnoxious
@codex8085
Жыл бұрын
@@TB-dz8lm You should stick with the plan of using false polling data and calling everyone racist worked last time
@JamesMathurin
4 жыл бұрын
I know it's a minor point, but I've never heard Laurence Fox sing, and...he clearly did not get a record contract on merit.
@zigowl1193
4 жыл бұрын
I can't believe that trash got airtime.
@tombrown407
4 жыл бұрын
I think I could make a more appealing single by drunkenly dribbling "theres a hole in my bucket" into a microphone
@markewings7525
4 жыл бұрын
He's got a record contract? I'm amazed
@thepodium6930
3 жыл бұрын
Never heard of him before that incident on Question Time and I never bothered to look up his stuff, for obvious reasons. But in the days after the debacle, I remember an article quoting him as saying he doesn't get roles and deals because of anti whiteness, but turns out he's just shit
@summanus4437
3 жыл бұрын
@@thepodium6930 He was married to Billie Piper. They split up about a year or two before this clip. I can't imagine why.
@gurusmurf5921
3 жыл бұрын
"We're the least racist country" sounds a lot like "Our cereal has the least amount of rat droppings."
@CN-yk2dk
3 жыл бұрын
Literally
@gallanonim3328
3 жыл бұрын
It means that the country is virtue signaling hard but still wants to keep its traditional ethnic identity. If you think humans are not tribal and instead care about complete abstractions like "humanity" then you are either spectacularily naive, or a leftist.
@gallanonim3328
2 жыл бұрын
@@themonologue3689 It doesn't, but this wasn't my argument.
@agentc7020
2 жыл бұрын
@@gallanonim3328 Welp, how about ya go with your family to the mountains and go become a proper tribe then? Cause what the fuck do you have in common with jimmy down street? Same skin color? That's really not enough to be part of the same tribe, same values? Pretty high chance that's a miss, isn't your idea of tribalism way more naive (stupid) then? Cause last time I checked white people have always historically killed each other in the UK, not the same tribe at all, humans can believe in things better than what you believe.
@gallanonim3328
2 жыл бұрын
@@agentc7020 Nice strawman.
@lenrussell2424
3 жыл бұрын
The drama between all these european countries is wild.
@GDKLockout
3 жыл бұрын
Yep, and yall think its about race. Its not, its about my people, whoever that means to anyone. Europe and the middle east has been in permanent war (not woth each other) for as long as we have records, at least 5000 years. Same with Africa, americas and asia. city states and tribes hacking and slashing their way through history. If they were raping and pilaging, they were sacrificing and crucifiying, hanging and beheading. In the last 75 years we have managed to bring something like peace to some parts of the world. Possibly at the cost of keeping the war elsewhere and turning a blind eye to the madness abroad. It might be worth considering the previous 4975 years of barbarity we might have to go through if our systems fail. And just incase you think its hyberbole, have a listen to what Erdogon has been saying recently.
@13579hee
3 жыл бұрын
@@GDKLockout given the fact that we live in the here and now it is currently about race. We can talk about what life was like thousands of years ago but we are in 2020 right now so let's talk about 2020. Non-white people are not the leading cause of the average white persons suffrage either in the UK or the USA. The Average White citizen in either parts of this world is suffering because of the actions and behaviors of the ruling class, oftentimes those to lean more to the right.
@GDKLockout
3 жыл бұрын
@@13579hee everyone suffers under the ruling class. Every group is preferential to their own, be it a family, sports team, fans of an artist, political leaning etc. Nepotism is built in to the system, not recently, its always been that way. House of Lords is unashamedly exactly that. I have zero chance of becoming a lord irrespective of my skin colour, my ancestry is Irish, plenty to co.plain about there too. But in todays English speaking world. The colour of your skin matters less than a whole bunch of other things. Your chances of a life filled with opportunity depends mostly on the wealth of your parents, having two parents, if they teach you about money and care about education. And more important than that is your genetically determined personality. If you are highly neurotic, life is hard. There has never been a better time to be alive for anyone in the west, no matter what your colour. Every opportunity is there, and poor white kids with shit parents have it just as bad. Your skin colour really doesnt count.
@13579hee
3 жыл бұрын
@@GDKLockout in your effort to discredit the importance of race in the west you literally contradicted yourself. In one breath you talk about how "poor white people have it bad too" which is almost your way of oversimplifying the struggles that black people have by saying "well some poor white people exist too you know" and on the other hand you talk about how this is a great time to be in the west because "everyone has opportunity"... Which one is it........are ALL people disenfranchised by the ruling class because they arent rich or does everyone have the opportunity to achieve unmeasurable success because the west is so great? The empirical evidence suggested racism is a hindrance in the life of black people across all socioeconomic status. In a country like the United States of America black people's lack of success / wealth is baked into the history here by way of policies created in this country. You cannot tell me I have the exact same opportunities as a white American when I was born into a different set of circumstances that has governed not only my life but my grandparents life. I was born into a community that made virtually no wealth earned during the 246 years of enslavement ...... I was born into a community that experienced 99 years of separate and unequal race-based policies like Black Codes, redlining, sharecropping, convict Leasing, forced removal off lands, denial of Education, etc AFTER the ending of Enslavement........ I am a member of a community where its citizens only gained full citizenship rights & equal protection under the law in America in the year 1964. Where many white Americans have inherited wealth, opportunity, access to better education by way of their zip code, neighborhoods and healthier communities with less pollution........... I have not. People love to talk about the amazing amount of equality that exists across the board in America in many other Western Nations but conveniently ignore the centuries of fighting oppression that lead to changes being made that have created set "equality". Most of those changes having been enacted only 55 years ago. What does it matter that schools can no longer deny me access because of the color of my skin if I don't have the money to attend said School? What does it matter if a bank can no longer deny me a loan on the premise of my skin color if said Bank denies me said loan because of their assumption that I am too poor to pay it back ( their classic assumption about my socioeconomic status is sadly based on the reality of people in my community having a lowered economic stemming for policies that stopped us from creating wealth.)
@GDKLockout
3 жыл бұрын
@@13579hee There is no better place and time to be alive for anyone of any colour. Thats not saying its perfect, thats saying its the best so far. If you think otherwise please do say where you think its better? All the tangeble problems you describe are not because of skin colour, they are because of weath, i too am from a poor background of maligned and enslaved people despite my white skin. I had to move from my home council estate (british ghetto) just so i had a postcode (zip) that would allow me to apply for better work etc. Both my parents left school at 12 and didnt really improve their position. They just woeked in factories and drank at weekends. I left school at 16 and they werent bothered at all. I met people who started out poor and made soemthing of themselfs. People of every colour. So when i decided that my kids would get a proper education and I wanted to own my own house, all the doors opened because i wanted to work for it. Complaining that you had a bad start because your parents werent rich, and thats because they are black, is a cop out. Excuses. There is tones of opportunity for you. Sorry if you have shit parents, i feel your pain as i sit here waiting for my drunk mother to finish her shopping because she wont stay sober long enough to drive to the shops. It isnt a case of "poor white people too", its a a case of poor people all suffer. Being black or white has nothing to do with it.
@cammysmith7562
4 жыл бұрын
A very interesting thing I have noticed in Scotland recently is the denial of our role in the Empire. Scottish Nationalism seems to forget that modern Glasgow was built on the slave trade and decides to blame it on the English rather than accept its own countries dark past. Nationalism is a strange thing.
@cjsime5547
3 жыл бұрын
Aye, we tend to view ourselves as England's first colony rather than a contributor and major part of the British empire. The Indians called Scottish regiments "devil's in skirts" and our part in the empire wasn't small. Still feel our country has grown out of the ideas of empire and British exceptionalism better than our southern neighbours but it's easy to see my view of Scotland is coloured by where I am and who I know and Scotland is not a hegemony. So many cross currents in the culture it's hard to say even what a Scottish person is. I would like to see our history be less of a black and white, aggressive England and victimised Scotland and a more accurate and detailed account of the brutality of our pre-empire history that could also include our role in the colonisation of most of the known world as a willing partner rather than as an unwilling state forced into it against our will. Then again it's always been the rich who prospered from this north and south of the border. It's a mess basically lol
@angelaslittlebit
3 жыл бұрын
It is interesting that you assert that this relates specifically to Scottish Nationalism, whereas I have found it to be unrelated to people in Scotland's position on the UK. It rather sounds like pointing the finger, so that one doesn't need to consider ones own position. Now that would be rather an ironic comment, given that this is the thrust of the video above.
@BigHenFor
3 жыл бұрын
@@angelaslittlebit He did not say that
@Eassa189
3 жыл бұрын
@cammy Smith FS, I'm Glaswegian and didn't know that. Cheers for the heads up, will have to read up on it.
@fallout1953
3 жыл бұрын
You putting your liberalized views on the past is already flawed, but the best thing is, there is nothing wrong with imperialism. I bet you don't even know what nationalism means, but it's absolutely good, especially without the stupid leftist ideas of "nationalism".
@jebbo-c1l
3 жыл бұрын
From an EU perspective, British exceptionalism is one of the most off putting parts of the country.
@waqasahmed939
3 жыл бұрын
From a pro EU perspective in the UK, same but what do I know? I'm brown
@Ray-cv3qe
3 жыл бұрын
from every perspective...
@chanelle5208
3 жыл бұрын
The racism here is very implicit and subtle which make it worse due to it being so deep rooted but idk 🤷🏾♀️
@twoplustwo5183
3 жыл бұрын
@Ay Tone British colonizers weren't exactly welcome in Africa either. I think this video is kind of a circlejerk, but let's not sow unnecessary hatred.
@twoplustwo5183
3 жыл бұрын
@Ay Tone Same here.
@swiralgod
3 жыл бұрын
No people should be asked to share their homeland until it becomes unrecognizable.
@adjjal
3 жыл бұрын
@@twoplustwo5183 Tf?! Are u really tryna compare British colonisers to modern day immigrants?
@twoplustwo5183
3 жыл бұрын
@@adjjal I have absolutely no idea what the context of my comment was, because it was 9 months ago and the guy apparently deleted his comments. But no, I probably did not compare colonizers to immigrants.
@masterplusmargarita
Жыл бұрын
"To me it's not offensive to you" is such a brilliant encapsulation of so much of what's maddening about this discourse.
@vihmaussivenitaja
4 жыл бұрын
I'm from Estonia and here right-wing people are convinced we are the epitome of white :D A mere 150 years ago we were officially scientifically considered Asian. That was the basis to justify German and Russian colonialism here. Now they go around yelling something about "our" western christian heritage :D All the while being discriminated against as eastern europeans as soon as they travel to Germany, France, Scandinavia or UK :D And if you dare to tell them they're eastern european, they might turn violent, because obviously we are eNtiReLy sCanDiNaViAn lolol.
@ytrepronxa2401
4 жыл бұрын
@@MadJackChurchill1312 fr? how'd you learn ab this?
@Maria7Maria
4 жыл бұрын
I lived in Finland for a while and even they discriminated against Estonians and wouldn’t class them as “Nordic”. They treated them the same as Russians. As a British person myself I was viewed with suspicion, but as an equal - in private some Finns said things to me like “it’s a shame about all the Muslims in your country” or “you have so many Eastern Europeans, we don’t want that here” as if they thought I would share the same feelings. I was too polite to really talk about it back then, LonerBox is right about UK politeness lol. Each country has their own hierarchy of who they discriminate against!
@ytrepronxa2401
4 жыл бұрын
@@Maria7Maria Finland DID get voted the most racist country in Europe back in 2018
@bbqseitan7106
4 жыл бұрын
There’s a weird LARPy mindset amongst these people that they were all Vikings Like bro your ancestors were, at most, just alive during that time, your ancestry isn’t special
@ytrepronxa2401
4 жыл бұрын
@samia elmi yeah... Theres some nice nature, decent welfare state, and a lot of foreigners seem intrigued by the language as well as the culture, there could be more but thats all I can think of off the top of my head. But a lot of things and people are very backwards here.
@MrFanderwald
4 жыл бұрын
I was having a real tough time with all the toxicity we see online today and this video really helped me. Keep up the good work.
@Eikomaniac
3 жыл бұрын
@Hugh Jones been called racist a few times before, have ya?🤣😂😂
@dry1171
4 жыл бұрын
I won't lie your videos are some of the most well researched, clearly conveyed, and intelligent understandings of some pretty big issues. keep up the good work mate :)
@craydogdog1530
3 жыл бұрын
What do you think about his video on CountDankula, and why did he get a lot of backlash in the video?
@dry1171
3 жыл бұрын
@@craydogdog1530 it was one of his less good videos, I agreed with the points both sides made and I think that both sides were kind of just arguing for the sake of arguing rather than actually having quality criticism
@craydogdog1530
3 жыл бұрын
@@dry1171 What points did you agree with on their end?
@Priority76
3 жыл бұрын
@@craydogdog1530 He got a lot of backlash because the dankwanks found out about and all went to troll it. It was a very good video. CountDankula is an idiot, this point was well conveyed in the video.
@fallout1953
3 жыл бұрын
Yea... No.
@DukeVengeance
3 жыл бұрын
My mother is an absolute awful unapologetic racist, and ive never understood why. She cant walk within a few feet of our home town without saying something about those damned (insert 4 letter racial slur). We all breathe, bleed, breed, eat, drink and sleep in the same way. Who cares if two people have slightly different skin colour or live in a way thats slightly different from yours. Wtf has it got to do with you? I've never understood racism. Im just worried that one day shes going to say something, and her family wont be around to save her (again). She doesn't seem to have any real reason to be racist, she just is.
@MaxSnowDude
4 жыл бұрын
Don’t you hate when Europeans are like haha you guys in the US have all the racism we are perfect we’ve never done anything, when it’s literally what was the largest colonial empire ever and killed millions of people and enslaved millions more
@xaphaniariel2797
4 жыл бұрын
We also pay border european countries to "contain" refugees and everyone has colonial baggage. But it's more covert in the west than in the east.
@MaxSnowDude
4 жыл бұрын
@@xxx.118 lmao stfu libertarian racism is illegal in America and Europe that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist
@terryh.9238
4 жыл бұрын
not all european countries were colonialists... some were the colonized.
@MaxSnowDude
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mmjk_12 haha we were never bad becuase the slavery and slave trade we created we changed our minds. Same with homophobia 200 years ago in the Middle East being gay was ok, but when the British came that changed and now the British changed their minds. I guess we can also forget about the bengal famien and the awful amounts of genocide perpetrated against indigenous peoples by the British. Changing your mind on the bad stuff you did is not even the bare minimum they haven’t even apologized
@MaxSnowDude
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mmjk_12 it was a joke and the Ottoman Empire past. A law before the British took over that legalized same sex marriage and it had been ok the entire time. European colonialism is the reason for basically all of the worlds homophobia
@MANBYTHEWIRELESS
4 жыл бұрын
tbf Laurence Fox is great evidence that privilege doesn't always benefit people's careers. Guy's from one of the richest acting dynastys in the country and until the question time appearence he was "the guy from lewis" to over 60s and "billy piper's ex" to everyone else.
@itsgeegra
4 жыл бұрын
It's funny - Billie is fuckin class but the last thing one wants to be is her ex, that's some terrible company to be in.
@mochynddu723
4 жыл бұрын
Billie dodged a bullet there!
@johncashrocks221
4 жыл бұрын
I know him from Deathwatch to be honest.
@strega1380
3 жыл бұрын
It benefited him enough that he had a career in performing arts lmao guys a black hole of charisma
@redcitadel9123
3 жыл бұрын
He was billie piper's ex? New to me, hope she moved on to better things
@conors4430
2 жыл бұрын
This is very good. I actually went blind when I was 12. I am using a phone that reads what’s on the screen by the way before anyone claims I’m lying. But I often encounter people who think that I literally can’t be discriminated against because the law says so, and they couldn’t imagine anyone discriminating against somebody with a disability. And they are often shocked to hear some of my stories because their first answer is, but that’s against the law. As if the law can deal with a HR person who changes their tone in an interview when they realise you have a disability and which you can never prove in front of a court was actually the reason why you didn’t get the job even though it happens one too many times. This is fundamentally the thing, people who have never had to experience some of this stuff literally can’t comprehend a world where it could be possible because they have never had to live in a world with those consequences to themselves. So in their mind, if it’s not happening to them, it’s not happening. If someone called me a cracker, what does it change, no one stops me from going into a shop because I’m white, the police don’t pull me aside more often because I’m white, people don’t grab their handbags in fear around me because I am white etc etc. So the insult has no greater impact on my life. Where as for people in other situations, it’s not the word, it’s the word on top of everything else that happens to them
@stranger16luis71
4 жыл бұрын
Let's be Frank here, That Lawrence Fox's voice sucks.
@manchild3437
3 жыл бұрын
I think it's fine, nothing exceptional but nor was John Lennon's and he was successful.
@grimsleeper5945
3 жыл бұрын
I hadn't heard of him until he started decided to try and stir up drama in the media. I can see why I hadn't heard of him though, he's not very talented.
@MmmMulholland
3 жыл бұрын
His talking voice is so gorgeous though 😏🥰
@MmmMulholland
3 жыл бұрын
@@grimsleeper5945 I’m not sure he meant to stir, it was sort of thrust upon him on that Question Time then turned into a whole thing
@IrishCaesar
4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Fox cannot sing. His mother should have told him. Maybe things would be different
@arfived4
4 жыл бұрын
A posh fuckwit, getting to do something that he has neither the talent nor the ability to do well, without criticism, just because he wants to? That's the most British thing ever. See also Boris Johnson.
@tumbler9428
4 жыл бұрын
Oh no, you must never tell bad artists that they're actually bad. Believe me, I'm from Germany.
@spacecat7864
4 жыл бұрын
He’s trying real hard for a Leonard Cohen vibe and got just close enough to it for me to notice how badly he failed.
@rainyday4884
4 жыл бұрын
Jeff Buckley he is not.
@BigHenFor
4 жыл бұрын
It's too late. His brain has stopped growing now. He's fully cooked, and will end up in the scraps bin.
@jm5887
3 жыл бұрын
Honestly seeing the reaction to the recent Sainsbury's advert I'm Honestly disgusted by my own country because racism is so ingrained in society to the point where it's not out in the open it's all behind closed doors opinions.
@CheckmateRidRot502
3 жыл бұрын
What if sainsburys blew that out of proportion for there own virtue signalling motive? I searched every corner of the Internet for the supposed racist backlash and it was virtually none existent. There where 17 tweets that circulated and they where all from anonymous accounts, and sainsburys made out they where heros by condemning obvious trolls causing uproar, but nobody acknowledged the fact that the remaining 65 million people in this country didn't actually give a fuck. Same as the recent football uproar, any platform that allows anonymity is always going to have 'trolls' but to suggest england is racist because of this is nonsensical. The media want you to believe racism is rife, but its probably not true. Racism was and is awful , but we are in the most multicultural tolerant time in human history, and it seems people are now fabricating oppression through sheer boredom. The majority of people don't care about skin colour, and it seems that is the real issue here.
@woodlandyeti
4 жыл бұрын
God I have waited, for someone to address this in my country, the West Midlands
@woodlandyeti
4 жыл бұрын
@@Dan_1348 many haters here too.
@woodlandyeti
4 жыл бұрын
@God's Ex Wife it’s a fantasy land the exist between the north and the south of England. It also happens to contain the real life inspiration for Mordor.
@woodlandyeti
4 жыл бұрын
@God's Ex Wife it’s mostly 874 miles, of polite disinterest.
@The-Underbaker
3 жыл бұрын
@@woodlandyeti As a fellow West-Midlander I can confirm that it was likely the inspiration for Mordor because i've seen more than a few trolls staggering out of kebab shops at four o'clock in the morning. ;)
@jimmacky207
3 жыл бұрын
i love the relationship between the jamaicans and irish in birmingham. my grandad moved from ireland in the 60s and immediately made friends with the jamaicans in underground bars (they weren’t permitted in pubs).
@quinn9045
4 жыл бұрын
Ah, the classic "bUt If yoU CriTiCIsE mE yoUr siLeNCinG My FREE SPEECH"
@quinn9045
4 жыл бұрын
@Boxey collectey So you shouldn't be allowed to criticize anyone if it's not in a debate? That sounds pretty anti-free speech, I would clarify if I were you.
@quinn9045
4 жыл бұрын
@Boxey collectey okay but what does that have to do with my comment? I wasn't disparaging every reply to criticism, I was clearly targeting one specific response. Please make your comment actually relevant to mine.
@quinn9045
4 жыл бұрын
@Boxey collectey okay, again, what does that have to do with my comment?
@passionofthecrust9173
4 жыл бұрын
@Boxey collectey Just to test this, are you opposed to the decision to ban cigarette adverts?
@quinn9045
4 жыл бұрын
@Boxey collectey AGAIN, WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH MY COMMENT DISPARAGING THE ARGUEMENT THAT CRITICIZING SOMEONE IS SILENCING THEIR FREE SPEECH? (Edit: sorry accidental capslock)
@thetrin
2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha oh god, that woman that was surprised that the child that scraped their face had pink flesh underneath. What the flying fuck?! I've lived all over the world as a brown man, and the notion that constantly passes through my mind is "is there a place on this planet where I can live and not feel like an other?"
@duxnihilo
4 жыл бұрын
Jane Elliott is amazing, isn't she? Her experiment in Britain was scary, though. Even if it went off the rails, it shone a light on how unbending the brits are.
@upthesock1
3 жыл бұрын
No, it shone a light on how the British don't like to be manipulated.
@Mr3Run4Fun
3 жыл бұрын
@@upthesock1 No, they just like to be the ones doing the manipulation, you clearly didn't watch the video. Funny how you view the truth literally displayed with undeniable facts as manipulation.
@upthesock1
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr3Run4Fun that's just your interpretation.
@Mr3Run4Fun
3 жыл бұрын
@@upthesock1 Hence my interpretation is wrong but yours is right? This dude was right, the denial is real.
@upthesock1
3 жыл бұрын
@@Mr3Run4Fun you're entitled to your opinion.
@mrelba9176
3 жыл бұрын
That teacher with the "I was surprised it was all pink underneath" shit. As a MIXED RACED (Half-caste...are you kidding me!?) I had a teacher tell me in 1998 that she was shocked that a "black boy could come top in an English exam". She knew she was doing something dodgy as she kept me back after class to tell me of her surprise at my academic ability. I thought I was in trouble! But that teacher is why the race discussion is so busted in this nation. Racist people have been brought up to believe they literally CAN'T be racist because they're British, and think that screaming the N word is the only way something can be seen as racist.
@mateuszmodzelewski1213
4 жыл бұрын
Feels good to be acknowledged as a civilized central european, too bad my county is lead by a government that’s not progressive in the slightest. Keep those videos coming, it’s really gloomy right now here in Poland both literally and politically and I need every distraction from this sad state of affairs.
@YunTomeq
4 жыл бұрын
I would still be keen on challenging Loner Box's implication that the ONLY reason why Poles and Slovenes (but also Czechs and Hungarians for that matter) see themselves as "Central European" (rather than "Eastern European" or "Balkan") is to assert their own perceived superiority vis-à-vis their Eastern neighbours and to distance themselves from the often negative stereotypes associated with the latter. Much more importantly, IMHO, there have been centuries of political and cultural interactions that helped forge a distinct Central European identity. Sorry things are taking a bad turn in Poland, bro.
@weareallbornmad410
4 жыл бұрын
@@YunTomeq Well, in Polish we call ourselves "Central-Eastern" European :) Poland is a fun one to consider because it sort-of aligned itself as "the Eastern part of the West" along the initial civilisational divisions here in Europe: Orthodoxy and Catholicism. Then came Protestantism and things got complicated, but oh well. Anyway. There's a bit of hierarchical thinking in our outrage at being called "Eastern European" for sure. But it also just feels weird and ignorant, like having "Africa" referred to as a country. Yep. Things are pretty bad politically. Not just in Poland, pretty much everywhere. I want the 90s back.
@AurelUrban
4 жыл бұрын
@@YunTomeq Yea there definitely is that "how dare you call us eastern european we are CENTRAL european" but also, we are literally in the centre of Europe? Geographically? And the history is so complicated too... I wouldn't call the Austro-Hungarian Empire eastern, it at least tried to be very western. Czechs have Prague and that is considered a typical European metropolis which is a thing unique for Western Europe. But theeeeeen the Soviet Union happened......... and you can't erase those 40 something years from the history of all the countries that were a part of USSR. So it's like, well, we might have a stone in one village that has "the geographical centre of Europe" written on it, we might have our capital an hour from Vienna, but we are Slavs. and we used to have Socialism here. To finish my ramble, I think the efforts to distance ourselves from the East are largely supported by the western anti east propaganda. After the revolution we all became US simps and did our best to imitate our big capitalist daddy. We want to have our own identity and pride ourselves on our Slavic heritage, but distance ourselves from Eastern Slavs as much as possible, because we are the Slavs that MADE IT, we're the ones who can properly lick Austria's and US's boots. But we go for work as waiters and warehouse workers in the UK like everyone else.
@YunTomeq
4 жыл бұрын
@@weareallbornmad410 That's really interesting to hear. Here in the Czech Republic, hardly anyone is nostalgic for the 90s, due to the excesses of the so-called voucher privatisation and countless cases of large-scale economic fraud (the authors of which were never prosecuted due to a legal system still adapting to the new politico-economic reality)
@borealis9842
3 жыл бұрын
I've heard multiple opinions about the state of affairs in Poland, mostly from Poles. I'm not Polish so I can't say anything for sure, but I like the way the winds are changing in Poland (I'm a traditionalist so no shit) I just hope everything turns out well for you guys.
@molsie9268
2 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but how the fuck is Laurence Fox a ‘singer’? That song just sounded like he was pissed and having a dramatic moan about how he’s such a victim 😬 I’ll be haunted by that noise forever now!
@MyBeebles
3 жыл бұрын
As an American it helps to know we aren't the only ones dealing with this nonsense. Together we can all make the world a better place and end this bigotry once and for all. Power to the People!
@quinnishappy5309
2 жыл бұрын
youre a clown how do you end bigotry once and for all? I mean what do you have a 3 step plan to success......what a joke
@actualgoblin
2 жыл бұрын
@@quinnishappy5309 multi-step harm reduction obviously people will always be biased but things can improve
@codex8085
Жыл бұрын
Adult is the only inequality they have is petty squabbles they occasionally have. They don't want equality the whole thing is a trick for power
@constantinethecataphract5949
Жыл бұрын
You cannot socially engineer sth that is innate to humans
@bigsoso20
4 жыл бұрын
Mate you’ve absolutely smashed it! As a black man in the UK this is exactly how I feel about racism here. It’s always a white person telling you “it’s not a big deal, I’m sure it was just a joke”. It’s just gaslighting with tea and biscuits. I do love tea and biscuits too
@zanzan4004
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly! It's always white people telling you they've never noticed racism in England and it's like ??? Yeah ??? Because you're white!! And then they accuse you of being hysterical or racist or lazy or whatever else they can come up with. Sick of it
@missqt48
4 жыл бұрын
This guy said ‘...waste tax payer money on pointless race tolrance lessons for the police that is not needed?’ Represents 90% of white Britons. That quote alone tells me exactly what you think of us. Even commenting on a video which pointed out black people (especially teenagers) stopped and searched for drugs YET black and ethnic ‘minorities’ are the lowest % when it comes to taking drugs! How about educate your police system on that and stop intimidating my brothers on road, kmt!
@zanzan4004
4 жыл бұрын
@bob danes literally just Google it mate, he's quoting some of the most reliable data on drug use among certain races. You ask what 'they' want you to do about racism and when you get a reasonable answer you get defensive. Nobody wants you personally to do anything about racism except stop denying that it exists in this country and continues to be a problem. It's literally step one. And then when facts are presented to you you just say they're not true. Do you trust any research at all? Or just the research which supports your world view? Race tolerance is something our society as a whole needs to improve on. That includes all of us, not just white people. But the facts are that racial minorities aren't afforded the same treatment in society as white people and that's wrong. Nobody wants to strip white people of their privelage, they just want equal treatment (at which point it would no longer be called privelage because no one race would have a leg up in society over another). It's idealistic but it's what we have to strive for. Who wouldn't want to live in a fair and equal society? And yet, a conversation can't be had about this without white people feeling like it's a personal attack on their morality. It's not. It's really not. I don't outright blame today's white people for racism, just like most poc. But white people benefit from societal and institutional racial imbalance which simultaneously makes life harder for poc, and that has to stop. And anyone who disagrees is part of the problem.
@mlpfamhearts6996
3 жыл бұрын
Sad how the hate that many South Asians went through is not talked about enough. The p-word is used so loosely because there isn’t enough awareness about it.
@enricduran7459
3 жыл бұрын
Watching from Spain and I think lately with covid the whole Mediterranian/Southern vs Northern Europe thing is becoming more relevant. The way tourists have no respect for locals and come just for the beaches and cheap alcohol has also been a big problem for some time since we live off northern tourists' money. Honestly I feel so baffled when far right parties here make similar claims about immigration to those the British or Dutch would make about Spanish people...
@codex8085
Жыл бұрын
In the UK we have not had a problem with Spanish immigrants we only generally have a problem with populations we generally have a problem with, And so we generalize about them
@bumblebabble18
2 жыл бұрын
It’s official, British adults worse at following directions than US children
@crabbuckets7506
3 жыл бұрын
Dw man I'm from Australia and the government uses the amount of migrants we take in as an excuse to say we are the most diverse country in Asia. We might be diverse but we have not made up with the aboriginal people and treat migrants as second class and give them the low level jobs. But don't stress nothing to see here.
@nic_a_bic6780
2 жыл бұрын
As an Irish person who was called a terrorist by a brit on a night out, I find it hard to believe they are they "loveliest, kindest nation in europe"
@lordofpots9947
2 жыл бұрын
Oh no you got called something by one guy! The horror!
@nic_a_bic6780
2 жыл бұрын
@@lordofpots9947 oh no does my personal experience of being called a mick or a taig often offend you? get the fuck over it
@isaac3140
Жыл бұрын
@@lordofpots9947 cringe
@QuandaleDingle-ji2tj
Жыл бұрын
ngl how would they even know unless u got an accent or u told them? or something like that else u dont know
@johncashrocks221
4 жыл бұрын
It can be argued that American identity and the origins of American racism come from the ethnic identity of English colonists and the fact that they browbeat and bullied other ethnic European groups (Dutch, Germans, French Huguenots, Scandinavians, Scots, and whatever variety of Irish there was) in the colonies into speaking only English and adopting "(Anglo and Protestant)American" values is where we now get the notion of "whiteness" and white supremacy that is now creeping ironically back into the mother country. A vicious cycle you might say.
@Godlike-87
4 жыл бұрын
Waiting for the mask-off moment.
@splanet5088
4 жыл бұрын
"White supremacy is ironically creeping back to the Mother County"... It had never left our nation, it just has moments of suppression.
@johncashrocks221
4 жыл бұрын
@@splanet5088 I'm only saying English people didn't create the system while in England, I'm saying they created it as a result of living in Virginia, Maryland, Carolina, Barbados, etc. And this particular 17th and 18th century British Atlantic world is where we get the notion of racism present in modern US and UK.
@johncashrocks221
4 жыл бұрын
@@MadJackChurchill1312 He wanted the Saxon variety of Germans, but the colonies at that time were mostly getting people from Switzerland and Southwest Germany. It's hilarious to me that even those people weren't "White" enough for the English.
@richardcronin1647
4 жыл бұрын
"Lord bumbling loin of beef." I'm stealing that.
@KamTheSage
4 жыл бұрын
V good. I made a video last year debunking that question. My god, does it come up A LOT. I didn't conclude it properly, but you've done a bang up job making one for me.
@melanieg.9092
4 жыл бұрын
As someone from central europe people here definitly draw a line of east and west along the former iron curtain. Especially during the "migrant crisis" the fear of a kind of stampede from the east grew
@TheUglyAnswers
3 жыл бұрын
When I piss off someone, I'm gonna start saying "to me it's not offensive to you." Bullet. Proof.
@IslayAnderson
4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you make a video talking about the differences between the north and the south. I'm a northerner who recently moved to Essex and it's like a completely different country down here, I've heard particular language and phrasing from friends and family in regular conversation that I only heard sparingly back home and my black and Asian colleagues at work seem to avoid conversation with me. And it makes me feel like I'm doing something wrong and I've become hyper-aware of how I talk and behave. I'm not saying the north is better by any means its that down here racism and attitudes towards migrants appear every day and lots of other things culturally that make me feel like a foreigner in my own home. this comment just became a rant about how I'm not enjoying being in the south, anyway great video!
@lazlow9640
3 жыл бұрын
GO BACK TO YORKIE TOWN YA PISS Nah but really, mate, Essex? Jesus wept, you might as well live with some kind of underground mole like people, they'd probably be more please for the company than the Essex lot. Look better too!
@IslayAnderson
3 жыл бұрын
@@lazlow9640 ha ha no kidding my mum moved here a few years back so it just made sense Getting used to it but is a completely different world down here especially with the corona
@lazlow9640
3 жыл бұрын
@@IslayAnderson if you're doing a night out mate, go around Liverpool Street, no one will give a fuk where you're from, should have decent transport links around Essex.
@Peter_Turbo4
4 жыл бұрын
I am British and I'm extremely racist Just ask my black friends
@edwardzita3479
4 жыл бұрын
Black friends?! You said you have black friends!! It's cool my g you're not racist, i have black friends too. *I'm joking btw
@thomasalvarez6456
4 жыл бұрын
Yes I too am extremely racist
@kiso-em3px
4 жыл бұрын
And there it is
@edwardzita3479
4 жыл бұрын
@@kiso-em3px , they being sarcastic... I assumed.
@jamesmcgrath4250
4 жыл бұрын
John Terry, is that you?
@derpphil5400
3 жыл бұрын
Nice example in the beginning, this was actually taught to me by my teacher late into sociology class, which I must say was probably the class the affected me most as I shifting in my politics.
@LucGendrot
4 жыл бұрын
New camera setup's looking quality. You're on the path to video essay stardom, buckle up.
@silentj624
3 жыл бұрын
The woman at roughly 2:55 saying she was surprised that a black child was pink underneath her skin. Ohemgee.
@mw-hc3bt
4 жыл бұрын
this is an incredible video, hats off to you. I’m english and it shocks me that people think this country isn’t racist, it may be covert but it is more and more obvious
@chrisbfreelance
3 жыл бұрын
If the country is racist so are you? But I'm guessing not, see swathing generalised labels don't really have much practicality. Cue: "well obviously not everyone" well say that then.
@mw-hc3bt
3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbfreelance well not quite. This country, as every country, has a image to uphold. Some places like the Pitt Rivers museum actively works against this racist diatribe. But if the face England had, with our government and policies, the institutes we uphold is bad then so is our image. It is a nuanced subject and the generalisation of ‘England is racist’ is far more philosophically and ethically valuable that ‘England is not racist’. As it is a system i live under, i am participating, how ever unwillingly. But I am not England and that conflation is inaccurate.
@codex8085
Жыл бұрын
We also think it's a trivial problem. Like you are a guest my home and I did not put out enough grapes or something
@AimeeColeman
2 жыл бұрын
I don't agree with the argument that the reason 3 times the proportion of black men have died from COVID-19 than white men is because they are disproportionately represented in front-line services. If I'm understanding correctly, the second part of this means there is a disproportionately low number of black men who work in front-line services. The implication of this would then be that people who do work in front-line services give better treatment to people of their own race and gender, to the point of having black men die 3 times as much due to poor treatment based on their race. This doesn't seem right to me, because while there are doubtless people in the NHS and front-line services who have racial biases and do not take black people as seriously, it would have to be a nearly universal truth across these workers that black people are not treated as well to achieve this level of disproportionate deaths. It seems to make a lot more sense that the disproportionate rates of death among black men in the UK would be due to the much lower vaccination rates among the black community in general in the UK; this is quite well-documented, and while having less representation in front-line services may very well be part of the problem of this low vaccination rate, it is certainly not the only factor, and likely not the most contributing factor: assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/952716/s0979-factors-influencing-vaccine-uptake-minority-ethnic-groups.pdf
@mitchdouglas9844
4 жыл бұрын
I dont remember this Sex Pistols song
@memee2987
3 жыл бұрын
Racism is always going to be here and with the Internet it amplifies it even more its just life
@chickensya
Жыл бұрын
I participated in a Blue/Brown eyes experiment in 4th grade (so 9 or 10) I remember it being a particular tragic day and the first time I felt discriminated against. Even if it was artificial, it *REALLY* opened my eyes to what discrimination feels like. I remember crying because everyone got donuts except me, longer recess, exempt from schoolwork, etc. I think at that age it’s the perfect time to do that experiment. Because I came out more understanding than confused, especially after a follow up lesson about what discrimination is and examples in history.
@reveranttangent1771
4 жыл бұрын
I had always heard of American exceptionalism, it was , at first, a relief to hear about another nation suffering from this, and then I realized the implications... Can we have our exceptionalism back, please?
@holnrew
4 жыл бұрын
No you're the ones copying us 😤
@reveranttangent1771
4 жыл бұрын
@@holnrew you can have ours then
@chrisbfreelance
3 жыл бұрын
You need to travel more of you think exceptionalism is unique.
@reveranttangent1771
3 жыл бұрын
@@chrisbfreelance intranational travel is not really an option for me in the foreseeable future, much less international.
@crazycatlover1885
2 жыл бұрын
There's a common way I think large groups tend to evolve in their discrimination of any kind. The group being discriminated against will start to fight back and gain recognition, so the discrimination becomes more and more discrete, as it becomes more and more disliked. The discrimination then gets so discrete that it's difficult to notice unless you face it yourself, so many won't believe it's still a problem. We then get to a point like we have with racism, sexism, and probably a load of other things I can't think of, where meaningful change and discussion becomes difficult to have because the majority group refuses to believe that there is a problem.
@ih8myfriends
3 жыл бұрын
“You know what they say about white people Dan. You can call them honkey, you can call and cracker they don’t care, just don’t call them racist.” -Mario Former bartender of The Drawing Room (Los Angeles)
@finlandsakke3505
3 жыл бұрын
3:19 Great to see Finland at the top of the statistics again Wait a second...
@madsiesss
3 жыл бұрын
im from a town where there is a lot of immigration, and i have seen a lot of racism from adults, but all of the spaces ive been in, mostly schools, have basically been really inclusive, it gives me hope that the younger generation are just more accepting in general. It's hard to get my head around racism being a problem after being surrounded in a fairly multicultural area (it is predominantly white but we do have people from all over europe, the arabic countries and africa), i just dont hear about racism around my area so its so weird to hear that the uk has these issues. This is why i think people shouldn't be instantly mad at people who deny racism, they may have just been surrounded by an area where it is much less prevalent. tl;dr: the amount of racism seems to vary around the uk and tends to be older people from my experience.
@madsiesss
3 жыл бұрын
i do really struggle to understand how people are racist, like what goes off in your head to treat someone who is different on the outside. I get really annoyed at people complaining and talking about racism, not because i like it (obviously) but because the fact it is still an issue, it genuinely annoys me, can we just move on as a society, also some people find everything racist and that doesnt help (usually americans lol)
@ahumanbeingfromtheearth1502
3 жыл бұрын
The whole "i was surprised it was pink" comment was hilarious, like the fuck was she expecting? Different coloured blood?
@taxfraud5673
3 жыл бұрын
Someone once called me a casual racist. Nah mate I'm on that competitive level
@taffyistrashy
3 жыл бұрын
The difference between 'Cracker' and 'Nigger' in their historical usage is simple. 'Nigger' was used by racists, especially before the 1963 Civil Rights Act and is unfortunately used by racists today. This word represents oppression towards black people and their skin colour in particular, literally being an altered translation of 'Black'. Black People today have claimed ownership of the word, using it as a term of friendship or brotherhood, which replaced the 'er' with an 'a' when spelling which takes the edge off of it substantially. To the point I'm making here however, the reclaimed version doesn't have a place in this argument as it represents rising up from racism and oppression, and the reclaiming and cleansing of the word, this is not a slur. 'Cracker' was originally directed to poor white people, who were typically Southerners, but then around the time of the Civil Rights Act, it then became a pejorative towards racist white people of the time. Nowadays it's used in almost the same way as 'Nigger' is/has been used by racists towards black people. This word represents nowadays, an insult towards white people, usually used by some black people. 'Cracker' definitely holds less value than 'Nigger', for the sole reason that 'Cracker' represents freedom of speech for people of a black ethnic background. 'Nigger' represents sheer hatred towards black people, that's why it holds more value. Personally, I really don't think we should use either, as in the 21st Century 'Cracker' is a racial slur towards white people, so it comes from the same mentality of racism that 'Nigger' came from. (I would never use either of these terms generally, I'm using them here to get my point across. I don't condone the use of either of these words, they're both just as hateful in the modern day.)
@Brakvash
3 жыл бұрын
I agree, and thank you for giving me a lesson on the etymological history of both words.
@taffyistrashy
3 жыл бұрын
@@Brakvash you're welcome 🙂
@SASMADBRUV7
3 жыл бұрын
@@taffyistrashy tbh though I don't think I've ever seen a white person be offended at the word cracker
@maxheadrom3088
3 жыл бұрын
Cracker has been historically used to mean a salty pastry we eat when having tea, right? I think it's easier for a white person to joke about being called cracker than for an African American to joke about being called the N word. There's a very good South Park episode about this - and now that Adam Curtis gave the show his "true genius" seal of approval I can publicly say I thought that long before Curtis ... you sweet voiced copycat! It seem you are from the UK, right? Is "Nigger" used over there? Does it have the same connotation? Thanks! BTW, thanks for the information about "cracker" - I see now that it's not such an innocuous word.
@taffyistrashy
3 жыл бұрын
@@SASMADBRUV7 as I said, I don't think it holds the same value as other racial slurs due to the historical context.
@andybycz
Жыл бұрын
British background radiation racism...
@eevee1791
2 жыл бұрын
“Expat is a word white people created so they don’t have to call themselves immigrants” a quote i once heard and its soo true because my parents call themselves expats when they lived in singapore
@johnbrewer8954
Жыл бұрын
An ex pat goes back home. I worked abroad for 30 years, paid UK tax all that time and now live in UK. There, solved it for you.
@skye8153
3 жыл бұрын
"To me it's not offensive to you" holy shit.
@danielhugill3219
3 жыл бұрын
I would argue that the Windrush scandal is an example of government incompetence, not necessarily systematic racism.
@r0464
3 жыл бұрын
I second that. Though there may have been some elements of racism - ignorance and incompetence surely would account for most of an action like that
@KingBobXVI
3 жыл бұрын
It can absolutely be both. If you give the benefit of the doubt and assume it was entirely an accident (unlikely), the effect of the system is still racially discriminatory. An accident can still cause systemic racism. The term isn't a descriptor for the people running the system - an individual cannot be "systemically racist". It's an adjective describing the system itself. The people then defending an "accidentally" racist system because they don't want it to change though...
@PeacetimePuma
3 жыл бұрын
I can sincerely say you have helped me understand things through a different lens I can appreciate that you receive a fair amount of unwarranted aggression, so thank you for the content and I hope you continue to add to the conversation
@nielsjensen4185
3 жыл бұрын
That's of no particular surprise to me. Ideological Conservatism is predicated on the superior/inferior dichotomy. Which is a belief associated with villains. And since no one is the villain of their own narrative regardless of what they do then they consciously believe they would never hold any negative beliefs. It's like when a person says, "I'm not a racist but..." I believe that they fully believe what they just said, I also know that subconsciously they hold racist beliefs and that I'm going to get a load of them shortly.
@martinbecker2164
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your interesting and educating documentary, I was always aware of the fact that racisms existed within the UK but I admit I wasn't that I wasn't quite aware of the specifics, and believed it to be more of a "racism hidden by being embedded within classism" type thing. I'm very lucky in that I've never personally experienced racism but that's mostly because I don't mention my ethnicity but I am aware that my great-grandparents (who were immigrants escaping pogroms) faced a great deal of it. It's genuinely frustrating to see people being so anti-immigrant as I myself would not be alive if it were not for such a policy (at the time, correct me if I'm wrong) of free immigration. Personally, I've come to find both race and racism to be quite foolish, racism for creating hate for no more than insignificant differences, and the concept of race itself for trying to make those insignificant differences far more important than they are. It's the culture that's more important, not your beliefs or tiny things like the color of your skin, and even then such differences are worthy of celebration; It's the vast difference in culture that gives rise to so many wonderful things, from food to art and music and different schools of thought. Such a shame we'd rather waste time hating other people for things that don't matter (of course it's not all about racism, but a big part of it is).
@Veronica-rt3mi
2 жыл бұрын
The British have never recognized their wrongs despite being the one of the most prolific colonizers in history. Colonization destroyed my culture, it was be like us or be other. The Irish were viewed as inferior not that long ago, how they believe race is not going to be an issue is beyond me. History should be thought to all regardless of how bad it may look on your country.
@TheBigAyland
3 жыл бұрын
Lawrence Fox, a man who's gets interviewed on national TV, invited to debates, writes opinion pieces, had interviews in national newspapers, and ran for London Mayor, all on a platform that his freedom of speech was under threat.
@bellumthirio139
3 жыл бұрын
Saying your free speech can’t be under threat because you’re not in prison is akin to saying Weimar democracy was never under threat as it was still holding elections
@quagstar
3 жыл бұрын
@@bellumthirio139 He has been able to voice his opinions far more than the average person. Most people can't share their opinions frequently on national TV
@bellumthirio139
3 жыл бұрын
@@quagstar and that disproves which of my points
@quagstar
3 жыл бұрын
@@bellumthirio139 I'm just saying his freedom of speech doesn't seem to be under any threat. A lot of people claim their freedom of speech is under threat when they are criticised for their actions because they struggle to accept criticism. It seems like this is what Lawrence Fox is doing
@bellumthirio139
3 жыл бұрын
@@quagstar refer to my first reply, also how is saying your free speech is being threatened deflecting criticism, the two things are totally unrelated
@Debilitator47
3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating piece. Thanks from the US. We get a limited view of British society and culture here, it's nice to get an inside look. Also your rendition of Comptine D'un Autre Été was beautiful.
@andersonrusnell3102
3 жыл бұрын
Similar to Canada, in Britain, you have to look for racism or it's just denied
@kaleahcollins4567
3 жыл бұрын
I remember actually participating in one of her group's I believe I was in 9th grade in high school . It was an awesome experience . I hope she survives this pandemic so she can do this for my daughters as well
@xxilysunxx
3 жыл бұрын
England least racist country in eu? I grew up here, if thats true its sad.
@sdrawkcabUK
3 жыл бұрын
Try living in Slovakia or Hungary and see how it compares
@folk2630
3 жыл бұрын
sdrawkcabUK - Exactly, add Czechia, Poland, Croatia to that list.
@Mich6961
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly, having my family being from slovakia makes me really appreciate living in the UK. Warts and all.
@folk2630
3 жыл бұрын
Mich6961 - Why is Slovakia such a fascist and neo-nazis country? Why don’t more Slovaks campaign against the racism, fascism, neo-nazism, white supremacism in their country?
@Mich6961
3 жыл бұрын
@@folk2630 Geographically and historically it was almost destined to be the way that it is as they were right in the middle of the fight between the USSR, Nazis and the Western powers all with their own agenda. Before that there were conflicts over land when it was part of the Hungarian kindgom. Basically there's a lot of historical bad blood with many ethnic groups. It doesn't help that the country was 'founded' only in 1993 out of very shady politics. Having trying to reconcile with people like certain family members I feel like the people who are left in modern Slovakia are grasping for anything that can define them from foreign influence. They don't have a glorious empire for them to remenince about so they have much less to hide in terms of racist attitudes. I know this sounds like I'm making excuses but a part of me does want to rationalise why some family members are the way they are. I don't know if there are any other central europeans who can verify this but I was brought up with the sense that family (no matter how physically appart they are) make up a spiritual unit. I'm rambling now but I just want to make it clear that from my perspective things are very muddy. Edit: to answer your question more directly: I think the more Liberal minded see it as more practical to simply move out or runaway (depending on which decade we are talking about lol)
@Sunaki1000
Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of a problem we have in german. Its even adressed in the Movie "Die Welle" We are so experienced, and educated on Faschism, and how much damage it can create, it couldnt ever happen again. The problem whit never again is, we not just undermind everything what isnt genozidal as not truely extremist, we dont belife we wouldnt ever be that dump again. And that leads into us making the same mistake again. Out of boastfullness.
@thatguyoverther6019
3 жыл бұрын
A really interesting and nuanced perspective. You dont often see proper thought like this rise above the shit flinging and arguing over semantics and words.
@obsidiansiriusblackheart
3 жыл бұрын
Being white != being rich. Classism is 100% more important to speak about than racism rigjt now
@user-pl2ij5su1t
3 жыл бұрын
No
@carolsmith5689
3 жыл бұрын
agreed
@charlieparker5346
3 жыл бұрын
Neither is more important, and both issues work together. A poor White person and a poor Black person don't have the same experience any more than a rich White person and a poor White person or rich Black person and poor Black person do. In order to have true class solidarity, we have to talk about and break down the barriers of race in the working class. Racism is a tool used to divide us from our fellow workers of different races and pretending that racism and classism aren't inherently linked is just playing their game. There is no class solidarity unless we're in solidarity with our fellow workers of color, and we can't truly be in solidarity with them if we're ignoring racism.
@mumfriend2545
3 жыл бұрын
Both are important to talk about
@dannyboy4682
3 жыл бұрын
Do you have to breathe between heartbeats? Because clearly you're having difficulty in understanding multiple ideas at once. Do people of different races have the same experiences within the same class? Does a black man stop experiencing racism because he is middle class? Do working class black women have the same experiences as white men? rejected job applications due to bigotry were literally discussed in the video. Google intersectionality and stop embarrassing yourself
@fesimco4339
3 жыл бұрын
The Laurence Fox reaction is so real, looking at him, in that moment, you know *exactly* how he feels. Love it!
@g9icy
2 жыл бұрын
I hate being british. That woman in the experiment talking about the kid that fell over made me physically sick. I can't believe I share the same country with people like that.
@lordofpots9947
2 жыл бұрын
Then leave
@g9icy
2 жыл бұрын
@@lordofpots9947 Yeah because it's that easy. Thanks for the deeply thought out, insightful suggestion.
@lordofpots9947
2 жыл бұрын
@@g9icy oh it really is pretty easy though.
@shroomer8294
2 жыл бұрын
Don’t beat yourself up over it my dude, you didn’t get to make the border or choose the people who live within them.
@poptartstheyalludeme3419
3 жыл бұрын
I'm very familiar with the eye colour experiment but I had no idea that it turned out like that here. Very interesting and honestly sounds so, SO! Familiar. People like that in my experience react like that because they hold racist predilection or are fearful of being perceived as being racist (implying they aren't confident in their not-being racist) and don't know how to confront that, so they lash out, reflexively, before they have to. It's a shame because it likely means that if they engaged with the idea that they could be racist, they may actually come away from it less racist. I like that you touched on the weird predudical inner-nationalism in Britain you see. It seems to me that it's a more genuinely held belief amongst the more wealthier English and Scottish people but that kind of language and thought has definitely trickled down. I've met many (I live in the south west of England) who hold and even engaged with pretty shady behavior towards Welsh and Cornish people, treating them preemptively as uneducated, disruptive or dirty. Phrases like sheepshagers or the fact that the entirety of cornwall is perceived as a bunch of cousin banging country illiterates come to mind. I think there's something to be said about how what you said about the viewpoints towards Irish people still exist towards the Irish Traveller community too. Even on the grounds of "incoherence" due to lifestyle based in a chaotic nature and regressive Religios values. Honestly wouldn't surprise me if some of those communities are descendants of Irish communities in mainland Britain who were alienated from society. Unfortunately I don't know enough on that subject specifically. You could perhaps even leverage the same point on the divide between the north and south of England. I don't think I have to cite evidence of the needs of the north of England being treated as subordinate to the south or rhetoric that reflects that cultural and economic divide. Bojo and the Tories do that for me plenty. Ultimately we, I feel as Brits, have lived in a system rigged to benefit the wealthy white English first and our culture has attempted to justify. Not surprising that when we tear down the semantic barriers (in this context) of Irish or black or Muslim, we're still left with same prejudices because we never attempt to address the fact that there's a substantive amount of English people who tend to view England as some kind of a cultural super-imperative and for some reason therefore above moral/ethical scrutiny (shouldn't need to explain why that's lunacy at and best and catastrophically dangerous at worse) and, whether conscious or not, that effects their perspective. Subsequently, as English people hold more weight in the country politically, it continues to effect the way we construct/deconstruct our society. Not enough is done to talk about enthnocentrisism in this country. It really bothers me how people react to white nationalists here. Like they're a problematic child, something that we will all just grow out of eventually because we all know it's bad. I'm not convince it's that easy. Great video. Thanks. 👏👏👏
@nikkilight2703
3 жыл бұрын
My simple Northern American brain cannot comprehend the intricacies of racism in Europe. Like "Northern italian" "Southern Italian" They're just Italian and would've been discriminated against either way if they migrated to America. ( This comment is a bit tongue in cheek. I do find it interesting. )
@LuckyBlackCat
3 жыл бұрын
Finally catching up on your videos. This one was very informative for me, as I knew almost nothing about racism in the UK. Great job packing so much research and info into one video. The stuff about right-wing bigotry rebranding itself as liberalism is very true and scary. Edit: Oh, and I love your inclusion of Yann Tiersen - Comptine D'un Autre Été. I love this song but I totally forgot it exists and right after finishing your video I looked it up and listened.
@Jess-pd8fy
3 жыл бұрын
its like Britain forgot their whole history of imperialism and colonialism geezuz lool
@seth8580
3 жыл бұрын
Just because it happened doesn’t mean everyone living in the present should be held accountable though, yes it should be acknowledged and learned but we don’t repeatedly point to nazi Germany in reference to racism do we? Remember it but don’t blame the living for mistakes made by their ancestors
@redtob2119
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but this is talking about modern the uk
@JynxedKoma
3 жыл бұрын
We've never forgot. We're just not ashamed of our past (unlike some).
@realeyes8096
3 жыл бұрын
@@seth8580 I'm proud my people invented the modern world
@Madbutcher305
3 жыл бұрын
@Arttu well that's complicated. to a large extent the dutch were more instrumental in the development of market economics, the British experienced the industrial revolution first but the reasons for it were hardly some specific ingenuity, more the ecological problems of the UK with a timber shortage and the need to restructure the economy to compete with its neighbours after the American revolution (K. Pomeranz). most of british development and the "positive" aspects of it came from exploitative extractive economic practices and the slave trade. I don't think we can really be credited for generating modernity outside of industrialisation and what things we can be credited for are long-term systems that have negatively impacted socio-economic conditions in the Southern US, South Asia, the West-Indies, Africa, China, and numerous other countries. I would say that we wouldn't have the current form of modern economy that we do today without colonialism, but that doesn't mean it wasn't a mistake, or that other countries couldn't have done almost the exact same thing.
@wayneprice2737
4 жыл бұрын
The women in the Laurence fox studio was a labour party plant end of.
@battylan8376
3 жыл бұрын
Ask any person who lives in the UK that isn't British they will all have at least 3 accounts of discrimination or racism
@fallout1953
3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@UnitGorilla
3 жыл бұрын
Good! I got that when I went to work in Australia, South Africa and Indonesia! But I just got on with it.
@fallout1953
3 жыл бұрын
@Alfie Human nature is a scary thing, having collective self-interest & valuing it over others is a sin for these people (well, at least only when we have it, that is...)
@bul1886
3 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine being this unsuccessful for a living and still having expensive music equipment and living in a nice house. Why is it always the middle class and upwards that drone on about privilege like they are compensation for something, that something being their own inherent privilege
@michaelseybold1743
3 жыл бұрын
Because some have empathy for others. They see their privelage and seek to uplift others. Just because you have more than somebody doesn’t mean that rightfully you should be ignorant of them. That’s pretty much what this video is talking about but on a xenophobic level.
@bul1886
3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelseybold1743 He insults that rich moron on TV, I don't know who that guy is but this KZitemr said because of his privilege his opinions are invalid. I'll go one step further and say that this KZitemrs opinions are invalid to me because of his privilege.
@prillainabox
3 жыл бұрын
Ugh I feel this so fucking hard i’m a white immigrant in the uk and when i try to speak about racism to white brits it feels like a wall that constantly retorts but we’re THE LEAST BAD 🥺
@LudvigIndestrucable
3 жыл бұрын
You've drawn some interesting conclusions from some highly cherry picked data points; notably skipping over the refusal of British pubs to racially segregate when American soldiers demanded it (frequently leading to brawls), the British abolition of the slave trade, the numerous moves by various people to integrate and welcome new additions to the culture. Everywhere has ugliness and mistreatment of someone, if you focus solely on it, you will find it.
@viralmelon
3 жыл бұрын
hi i am british the argument isnt that we are more racist or equally racist, but that we have our own problems. I love britain, it is my country, i dont believe we are the worst BUT we got work
@nasraaden7812
3 жыл бұрын
This entire video was focusing on BRITISH RACISM so of course he would choose to focus on BRITISH RACISM.
@kaysejohnson7168
3 жыл бұрын
@@nasraaden7812 Yes but it was a very unbalanced perspective on BRITISH RACISM. That's the point.
@redcitadel9123
3 жыл бұрын
Bro, Britain as a country has famously colonialised and exploited so much of the world. You don't need to 'cherrypick' facts to know that Britain is a racist country with a racist heritage, that we need to recon with.
@redcitadel9123
3 жыл бұрын
And for your information, I'm sure the dude writing the video knows about the pubs and everything. But just because we are (in some times in some aspects), doing better racism wise than the US, doesn't mean we still don't have a lot to work on. Just accept that the UK has issues past and present and work to combat it.
@florallucy2053
4 жыл бұрын
I have a personal theory (so feel free to add or correct me) that alot of the in-built racism/guilt in the British population comes down to the empire and the sheer lack of education on it. We all know it happened, most know it was bad, but we never actually learn about all the bad things that happened, that we were responsible for. British people look at how germany handles the education of the holocaust in the modern day as “a bit much” and live with this mentality of “well it wasn’t ME who did all that stuff” or “well MY ancestors weren’t responsible” which completely misses the point. I went to quite a high achieving secondary school with a well respected curriculum (and majority white middle class) and we were taught practically nothing of the empire, and when we were it was “oh wow we conquered ____ how great, we got ____ resources from this”. No mention of the genocides or the forced christianisation, mass displacement, striping resources and everything else. British people live in a state of ignorant bliss based on guilt and complacency. “Well we gave them the land back” “we let them all move here” “i have black friends/students” And don’t get me started on the attitudes on immigration etc because its just a mess. Nothing is going to change until we are taught from an early age rather than being left to adopt the attitudes of our parents, from their parents etc etc
@redcitadel9123
3 жыл бұрын
I think that's a great theory! All the people I know who know about the full, horrible impact of British colonialism have sought out the information ourselves. We don't learn it in school, and it tends to almost be romanticised. I know people who think they know about British history and all they can say is inaccurate and racist.
@redcitadel9123
3 жыл бұрын
I think that's a great theory! All the people I know who know about the full, horrible impact of British colonialism have sought out the information ourselves. We don't learn it in school, and it tends to almost be romanticised. I know people who think they know about British history and all they can say is inaccurate and racist.
@fallout1953
3 жыл бұрын
@@redcitadel9123 1. Get rekt 2. Maybe it's not all "White man's fault"
@vikkistarr4794
3 жыл бұрын
I have just discovered you and I am already head over heels for your content
@kattkatt744
4 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate this video! I think a lot of the dynamics talked about here also applies other countries in north-western Europe. My racist cousin bangs on about protecting women and lgbtq+ from the muslims. In reality he is indifferent to his friend that abuses his girlfriend and is jealous of his landlord of desi descent who found the loophole in the law instead of him.
@Grimpus1
3 жыл бұрын
Does ur nose and eyebrow come off witth ur glasses
@nikarshadsulaiman9614
3 жыл бұрын
I hate the term “institutionalised racism” I’m like bitch you’ve never experienced that until you come to Malaysia
@MrAlen6e
4 жыл бұрын
Your accent is so beautiful and calm
@dianjm93
2 жыл бұрын
Some months ago went to England: Saw many young people (no more than 23 looking very young) homeless in Piccadilly. Saw people from the common wealth (india and other countries) being mistreated for doing their jobs, not many structures adapted to accommodate disabled people...and I live in a country of Europe that is considered as worse than the UK 🤔
@perfidy1103
3 жыл бұрын
"Who, and what, is Lawrence Fox?" I can answer this one: "Lawrence Fox is a massive knob head."
@Shadowman4710
2 жыл бұрын
Sonofabitch nearly ruined "Inspector Lewis" for me...
@BurnheadLP
4 жыл бұрын
Man the taking apart of racist divisions made me laugh, I am from Austria, and we are right in the middle, so not even our far right partys can agree on which part of europe is the superior one, always switching between our western allies, and the Visegrad states in the east, and neither actually really like our right wing, they just use them to score political points.
@MagicBollocks
3 жыл бұрын
A great essay, with some really thought-provoking points. I think you're wrong about 25% of the time, but that figure will likely drop as I ruminate :-)
@Yevjer
4 жыл бұрын
Wow this is so similar to Jordan Theresa’s video from a few days ago.
@hemerythrin
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, this is a great video.
@MooCowo
3 жыл бұрын
Fox sings a single monotone note with arhythmic lyrics and a sprinkle of privilege and racism and calls it music
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