FF12 is tragically underrated. So much detail in the writing and the world and one of the best turn based systems of all time. Any game that allows you to get good enough to program your characters to take out super bosses hands free is a masterpiece.
@nesoukkefka1741
6 ай бұрын
Still don't understand why the gambit system hasn't been reuse, and we still have to deal with crappy AI partner in many games today.
@Bizkit047
6 ай бұрын
I can see why original FFXII was hated so much based on all the differences that were changed afterwards. TZA is the one I played, and I managed to enjoy it a decent amount. But I weigh story pretty evenly with gameplay in FF world and the story of XII is pretty boring and bland as a whole, with awful main character development. But on the gameplay side it's a Xenoblade prototype, so it wins there at least. And yea, Gambits were fairly fun to mess with and unique for its time.
@redinthesky1
Ай бұрын
Content, build options, gear, and extras are big with me, so 12 (zilart) is top 3 FF game for me
@crispy_asch7110
6 ай бұрын
All three of us FF2 fans need to rise up lol
@Bizkit047
6 ай бұрын
Just make a 3 hour video essay on why it's actually the best FF.
@crispy_asch7110
6 ай бұрын
@@Bizkit047 idk if 3 hours will be long enough to explain why having Guy speak beaver is masterclass writing
@RayzeCruxis
6 ай бұрын
I love to grind but that game and Monark are key examples of know when to limit grinding
@RuneMKK
6 ай бұрын
I'm with you bro.
@rpgranked
6 ай бұрын
@@RuneMKK I'm here bro, I'm here
@theMidsizeLebowski
6 ай бұрын
You just completely sold me on Stranger of Paradise. "Fast-paced action combat" with parries that remind you of Sekiro was all I needed to hear. Thanks for making this awesome list.
@LeMelleKH2
6 ай бұрын
Dang we’re complete opposites on the music, cuz X, X-2, and XIII are my favorite OSTs🫠🫠🤣🤣🤣
@INVINCIBLE117X
2 ай бұрын
I could cry seeing 8(MY FAVORITE) up so high on your list and I seen another tier list and 8 was also S tier :) #FINALFANTASY8FOREVER!!!!!
@thelonewolf191
6 ай бұрын
Oh do a KH list! If you haven’t already.
@evilkingstanley
6 ай бұрын
I feel like KH needs two separate lists where you rate their stories and rate their gameplay
@darkuscarlet
6 ай бұрын
@@evilkingstanley Days having the most scuffed gameplay but downright the best story of the games.... IDC What anyone says, Roxas' line about ice cream while Xion's disappearing just shows how fucked up the trio's entire situation was.
@KEEYBLADE
6 ай бұрын
@@darkuscarlet This. It is easy to make fun of this line, but in context and looking at Roxas' entire story and life, it is extremely sad. For Roxas, friends are what Axel told him: People you eat ice cream with and hang out. And if you know what it means to Roxas, this line hits so hard.
@kurimiaisukurimu
6 ай бұрын
The timing of this upload with me having just bought the Pixel remaster of FF 1-6 as well as 9 and 10 is actually insane.
@shokugekiboyz9705
6 ай бұрын
Could listen to Biz talk about anything for hours. Great video and list!
@LordChoadly
4 ай бұрын
6 is S tier, you are mistaken
@SaberRexZealot
6 ай бұрын
14’s story is amazing. Worth playing just for that
@Elgar337
14 күн бұрын
Final Fantasy II fans: "Do not mourn me. This is my destiny".
@RPGLoverFF
6 ай бұрын
SoP being here and where it is makes me so pleased
@zitowski7391
5 ай бұрын
Great list. Some people here need to understand opinions exist Lol. Is just his view guys. If we are gonna get just objective the list would be boring because 6,9, and 7 are going to dominate the first 3 spots almost every time and we will get tired of it.
@BombShopUniverse
3 ай бұрын
Holy, someone who understands the magic of 8. I'm so tired of 7 fans
@fabesey2016
6 ай бұрын
You're the first person I've seen besides myself that prefers 5 out of the SNES trio.
@poleon2003
Ай бұрын
Same as me in fact FF5 is actually my personal favorite FF game because I'm sorry if this comes off as a shallow way of viewing things but I have kinda a gameplay over story kinda perspective compared to every other FF fan who to them the story is the most important I mean not to say I can't enjoy or care about a good story but honestly FF5 really made me fall in love with class based changing systems that 4 Heroes of Light and the Bravely and Octopath series took notes on with their games' job systems I mean my ideal FF game is a game in the same playstyle of FF5's job systems but with FFX's battle system as I honestly much prefer turn based over the ATB system of 4-9 that would be my endgame FF game
@uncensored6177
19 күн бұрын
Recently played III thru IX only and I had the most fun playing V. And it was the most challenging cause I didn't try to break the game. Surprisingly died a lot
@lees3692
12 күн бұрын
So basically there are a few really good FF games. Out of those really good ones, the first one a person plays becomes their favorite. Then that bias is applied and potentially better FF games are punished accordingly.
@youarethebestacww
6 ай бұрын
Type zero has one of the best final fantasy endings in my opinion. I love that game
@jacksondavis5032
6 ай бұрын
Besides your placement of 2, this is the closest that i've ever seen to my own personal list. great video
@redinthesky1
Ай бұрын
Some FF11 private servers are pretty amazing, my top main FF games are 6,7 and 12, with 11 and Tactics also being S tier
@Darthlightskin
6 ай бұрын
The streets gonna be asking for a kingdom hearts tierlist next lmao
@jeffreyhodes
6 ай бұрын
strangers of paradise LETSGOO
@LightbladeRiulo
6 ай бұрын
Honestly if you do get into 14 Bizkit I could see you just absolutely smashing any challenge thrown at you. Whenever you do I await with bated breath.
@roiitzkovich4545
2 ай бұрын
Where will you place Rebirth on the list?
@lankeysob
3 ай бұрын
I think XV should be higher but glad to see some else have 8 and 9 at the top of their lists
@wiseguy240Winston
6 ай бұрын
Don't hate me, but... Awesome: 6, 10, 7R, 7, FFT Great: 9, 4, 13-2, TA Solid: 12, WoFF, 8, 5, 16, 1, TA2, SoP, CC Okish: 3, 13, 13-3, 4AY, Type 0 Not good: 15, 10-2 Why does this even exist: 2
@michaelkarlsson5966
Ай бұрын
Hi! Thank you for this ranking! It's always fun and interesting to see what others feel about these (mostly) great games. For me, I haven't played all of them and I've finished very few so I can't judge/rank all of them but my favorite so far is FF8. No doubt. I like FF10, and the FF13 trilogy alot. FF13 trilogy as a whole is interesting and worthwhile to play, at least for me. FF12 is ok. FF1 was good too. Haven't played 2->7 yet but will eventually come to it. FF9 good. In my opinion FF7 and FF9 are over hyped and nostalgia tinged for many people. Maybe FF8 is nostalgia tinged for me? Maybe. Playing FF15 now and I like it. The battle isn't my favorite. I dislike the "action" type battles. I liked FF10-2, I thought it was great and fun. I liked that it was very unlinear and also the clothes changing battle thing (forgotten what it's called, haha!) Anyway, cheers! :)
@jacobsouza350
6 ай бұрын
To enjoy FFXII you need to play the Zodiac Age version for ps4
@Bizkit047
6 ай бұрын
I did, which is the only reason I didn't put it in absolute bottom tier. All the changes in TZA from OG that I was informed of would make the game incredibly unfun to me, so I'm glad they changed it. The reason the background music is FFXII is because I just finished beating FFXII (TZA) for the first time.
@zakirstocks9514
5 ай бұрын
All of these Amazing FF Games are all Equally the Best to me. I Equally love them all. 1. Final Fantasy I 2. Final Fantasy II 3. Final Fantasy III 4. Final Fantasy IV 5. Final Fantasy V 6. Final Fantasy VI 7. Final Fantasy VII franchises 8. Final Fantasy VIII 9. Final Fantasy IX 10. Final Fantasy X 11. Final Fantasy XI 12. Final Fantasy XII 13. Final Fantasy XIII franchise 14. Final Fantasy XIV franchises 15. Final Fantasy XV franchises 16. Final Fantasy XVI These are all THE Best Epic Badass FF Games I Absolutely Love playing throughout the years.
@Loozar402
6 ай бұрын
I'm pretty hype that Stranger of Paradise made it so high on your list! Team Ninja working on the game is what piqued my interest in the game but didn't pick up until I got a PS5 and found a cheap copy.
@johnhoran9840
3 ай бұрын
Okay, I just played through FF1 for the first time (Pixel Remasters), and while I enjoyed it, it was relatively easy. The four elemental bosses were not really a problem for me, but then I made it to Garland/Chaos at the end. WTH?!?! I was level 41 when he first defeated me. I have since upped my characters to level 60, and I've tried every trick I can think of to defeat him. Just when I feel like he's almost finished, he fully cures himself. The way they spike the difficulty for the final boss was really unexpected. FYI: I have played through FF 3, 6, 7, 8, and 9, so this isn't my first rodeo. Anyone else have a similar experience, or have I merely lost my mojo?
@IosLocarth
6 ай бұрын
Wait by the story of 15 do you mean the events of the game or the actual plot that they failed to tell? The one with Bahamut being evil and killing his iwn mother and setting her corpse on fire, which us the volcano thats also the source if the demonblight? Im not making this shit up
@Bizkit047
6 ай бұрын
I was likely referencing the told story. Original release FFXV left out tons of story, it was a disaster.
@leko3969
6 ай бұрын
13 left us at a disaster at day one @@Bizkit047
@IosLocarth
6 ай бұрын
@@Bizkit047 I'm well aware. I got the game close to day 1 and beat it before all the DLC came out. I had to look up a lot of the details I mentioned because they either weren't present within the base game or were incredibly obscure. I know a lot of other stuff was added later, and quite frankly I disqualify Royal edition as being good because it cost even more money if you already had the game. Like, you buy the game at launch for $60, then get the season pass for $30. After the last episode the game is still not good and only like the last episode is kinda good. Then you have to drop *another* $30 for the royal edition upgrade for like the majority of the shit that fixes the game. Then they originally had another season pass planned that I believe would have covered the plot that I mentioned for another $30. This is the exact reason why I'm so harsh on this game and refuse to cut it any slack, especially because iirc buying the royal edition if you didn't already have the game was like $40 for everything. I believe the best summary of how bad launch 15 was is that when I got to the throne room at the end and saw all the bodies strung up, I literally didn't know who one of the was and thought it was a completely different person. Simply because I hadn't watched Kingsglaive
@mikeviking1000
6 ай бұрын
Wait! That’s part of the plot?! I played it when it first came out and didn’t touch it again, so I haven’t played any of the DLC’s.
@IosLocarth
6 ай бұрын
@@mikeviking1000 there's like some background lore that hints at this but it's mostly buried pretty deep. Some of the DLC confirms that this is what they were planning but because this game was an absolute wreck they never got the chance to finish
@Cursed888
6 ай бұрын
This whole tier list is hyper ?????
@timothydrake1668
6 ай бұрын
I definitely agree with SoP especially consider my favorite FF is 4 but SoP is so fun especially multi-player. Enjoyable list I see where you come from on these even if I have a drastically different take.
@jesusa.adorno6933
6 ай бұрын
Pretty interesting list. Despite my feelings on FF8 & it not working for me, it’s very nice seeing you talk about why 8’s your favorite. Quite an interesting list, really. Plus, I respect putting 9 in awesome tier. That game rules. VII Remake’s great too. Still dig the list overall.
@coolyeh1017
6 ай бұрын
Would be interested to see how Blitz thinks of XI and XIV since they are MMOS, albeit single-player friendly (for the genre) MMOs. I would like to see him tackle the story to Extremes to Savage to potentially Ultimate pipeline.
@ko55579
2 ай бұрын
Top 5 FFs not in order are 6,9,12,13&7 I disagree with a lot of this tier list might elaborate later
@KEEYBLADE
6 ай бұрын
FF XV was kinda bad when it released. A good story was there, it was just told very bad. But nowadays, with like the Royal Edition or the Windows Edition and all the updates (they re-did entire chapters) I heared it is very enjoyable now. I agree with FF7R, I really like the combat system. As someone who grew up with and loves Kingdom Hearts and it's combat style, I must say, I fell in love with FF7 Remake combat, because it is the perfect mix between real-time combat and tactics with the ATB abilities.
@Malisteen
6 ай бұрын
What, no Dirge of Cerberus?
@Bizkit047
6 ай бұрын
Never played it, nor do I really intend to.
@leko3969
6 ай бұрын
you played 13 that is a uther trash, dirge of cerberur is 10x better@@Bizkit047
@mikeviking1000
6 ай бұрын
@@Bizkit047Good! You’re not missing anything unless you like trash. I love OG FFVII, but Dirge is really bad.
@neobahumuth6
3 ай бұрын
@@Bizkit047in before they remake it before the third remake game kekw. No, wait Nomura, what are you doing? it's a jok-NOOOOO
@michaelkarlsson5966
Ай бұрын
@@leko3969 13 isn't trash, you just don't get it.
@IosLocarth
6 ай бұрын
Oh I actually did one of these with a friend a little while ago but it was one of the turbo lists where it had almost every single spin-off game that you could fit under The Final Fantasy umbrella. I do you want to say that some games you need to actually have a difference between the different ports because Final Fantasy III somehow actually gets worse with the DS port
@gentronseven
Ай бұрын
I played ff15 for the first time after patch and I thought it was a good if not great game
@philipboardman1357
2 ай бұрын
What is problematic about Final Fantasy 11?
@Flama99
6 ай бұрын
Big fan of FF8 and first FF played? Man after my own heart.
@MarkHogan994
4 ай бұрын
I noticed the only people who rank VIII highly are people who have huge amounts of nostalgia for it. I haven't played it yet, so I'm not judging or anything. Just something I noticed.
@Flama99
4 ай бұрын
@@MarkHogan994You’re probably 100% right, if I played it later or today, it’d be one of the most non-sensical RPGs out there. The soundtrack is fire though, consistent in any age
@thelemonadestandman
6 ай бұрын
I'm curious of what Bizkit's opinion would be of the FF1 fan-remake/remaster/reconstruction, Final Fantasy Renaissance. It's essentially the same game remade in unity with bug fixes and new classes.
@Space_Ache
6 ай бұрын
This dude puts 8 above 7. You love to see it. He then goes o. To put X below 8. Sacrilege. Lol
@thegamewin100
6 ай бұрын
Do one for kingdom hearts I’m sure all agree with that one 😂
@Furi-nh8gt
6 ай бұрын
I have watched your Spoilerfree Review. Did you do Ultimania Arcademode on NG+? Ultimaniac is kinda the Critical Mode of FF16. Also Armor+Weapons are fixed in Arcade Mode and in Ultimaniac there are no Checkpoints (that being said if you design your Build smart Clive is probably the strongest Playable Character in all Action RPGs (including FF7Re, KH3/2/BBS, DMC5 and Nier Automata). Besides that in Spring we get the Rising Tide DLC (I believe we will get something like Drive-Froms/Formchange but this is more a Gutfeeling). Also based on KH3+Nier Automata DLC Content (which is much harder compared to Basegame), I would wait for the Final Review until you have beaten all DLCs + Ultimaniac.
@Taser9001
6 ай бұрын
Justice for FF2! Okay, it isn't anywhere near being my fave FF, but it does have a lot going for it, particularly later ports with quality of life improvements and extra content. Emperor Mateus is a fantastic villain. I'm also going to stick up for FF3. Again, nowhere near my fave, but a fantastic beginning for the job system that makes FF5 so good.
@LordChoadly
4 ай бұрын
You better get this right....☠️
@apathy2454
6 ай бұрын
Woaaaah kh3 ost better than kh2!? Absolutely not lol battleship bravery solos most of kh3 ost by itself and don’t get me started on darkness of the unknown lol
@thegamewin100
6 ай бұрын
Yea kh3 has a great soundtrack but most of it is remixes
@TophDaGreat
6 ай бұрын
Agreed. He must not have played kh2 in awhile. kh3 has some good tracks but its not even close.
@MrProg-ey3tl
6 ай бұрын
I was about to say, lol. He only likes the KH3 soundtrack because it has so many KH2 tracks.
@Bizkit047
6 ай бұрын
If you pretend Remind doesn't exist, I could buy this counter argument. But Remind exists, so nope. KH2 has Rowdy Rumble & The Corrupted spammed in tons of boss fights, I'll take the sick remixes any day over that. That being said, the good tracks from KH2 are still awesome.
@Bizkit047
6 ай бұрын
I stream KH2 like twice a week, sounds like cope lmao.
@Karxrida
6 ай бұрын
Haven't been able to catch your streams in forever but glad you're still doing stuff. Hope you get to FFXIV soon. One of my favorite games, and VIII gets a lot of love in it. (You even get Squall's outfit as a bonus if you're subscribed long enough.) I think you'd enjoy raiding, too.
@TheDorionChannel
6 ай бұрын
I'd like to see videos of you playing FFXI &FFXIV.
@IosLocarth
6 ай бұрын
World of Final Fantasy is just "heh, that was a cute reference" for FF psychos like me. I need fo go play Maxima cause they fixed most the shit I didnt like
@Amber_xo_133
5 ай бұрын
I’m not fan of the MMOs and Tactical FF Games
@bllllood
6 ай бұрын
Awesome: FF9,FF6(for the Era 6 was awesome but i pass on replaying with outdated graphic,travel method.....Great:FF7, FF8, FF12.........Solid: FF-X.......Okay:FF13, FFX-2, FF Mystic Quest...........Unfished FF5(but not going back though because i dont dig into too outdated)...FF1(screw that hard lvl grinding near the end, big pass on me, also hated that cavern with those monsters 1 shotting your whole party at the start of the fight b4 you can even imput a single command, also too outdated graphic wise).....never played FF2, FF3, FF4, FF11, FF13-2, FF14, FF15, FF16, Dirge of Cerberus, FF7: Crisis Core(Japan released only), FF7: Remake, FF7: Rebirth.... dont have any FF in my thrash tier XD....well i need to go back to the FF serie someday but i been so taken by mmo last few years(last 15 years that is)....also i know a lot of ppl hated it but i rly did enjoy the manly womans in FF13(Lightning, Fang)....also made a nice change of the traditionnal ones...also still rly surprise you rank FF1 that high despite having that 1 awful cavern part :S.....well game was still playable other than that 1 part so technicly deserve an okay spot
@Droanux
6 ай бұрын
imo ff2 is better than 3, just because the dopamine I got from going from dual wielding shields and punching everything to actually getting good weapons around the end game and decimating everything, where the job system in 3 just wasn't there yet.
@alexpadilla9993
3 ай бұрын
I liked 12 story
@hist150project5
6 ай бұрын
Finally someone puts 8 in the top ranking. But 7 Remake over 7? Nah
@rubyknights5885
6 ай бұрын
6:23 oohhh that most controversial opinion I’ve heard lol
@jaioncebollero1168
6 ай бұрын
Crystal chronicles is the best best ff game. Let’s argue
@Anuojat
2 ай бұрын
FF 12 story is way better than 10. Easily. 13...oh come on man. Really? Characters are the worst of them all.
@idontwannaknow0
6 ай бұрын
Good list, and very surprised you recognised Stranger of Paradise! However your comments about FFXI are odd, I'd suggest you be sceptical of the sources you got your info from. Whilst it may be a nuisance to buy, download and setup, accessibility by itself does not make a game bad and so it has a very mixed reception like Stranger of Paradise. FFXI is still my favourite FF game regardless of whether retail or a private server is chosen. I really doubt you would rank it as "not good" as you seem to expect.
@Bizkit047
6 ай бұрын
I could end up not ranking it low, but I have watched a decent amount of gameplay of the game at least, so I do have an idea how it functions. I'm aware of the massive changes over the years from initial release to cut down on the requiring multiplayer to play the game well too and another QoL. I definitely didn't say in the video that it being hard to get set up now would make it not good, though.
@brandonspikes
6 ай бұрын
Hey Biz, Been playing the FF series for a long time, played every single game multiple times and every iteration, I'm really surprised at your FF8 rating, the combat system in my eyes is complete dogshit. Having to draw for magic feels bad, enemies scaling with your level feels like you're not progressing if you choose to play the game like you would 99% of the final fantasy games. Triple Triad being the best thing about the game besides it's music in my eyes should dock the game, since a mini-game shouldn't be better balanced than the main game it's in, in my eyes at least. I respect your opinion, and at the end of the day its all subjective.. With that being said, I think you should try the first two Bravely games (Default into Second.)
@Bizkit047
6 ай бұрын
What's great about FFVIII is that it's quite fun on repeat playthroughs of doing things like low level weak junctions and such, and then doing the fun Limits like Squall/Zell/Irvine. Also, you don't HAVE to Draw. Refining is king in that game, so you can avoid feeling bad about that. But sadly game doesn't explain that to players. It was my second RPG ever so I didn't play it expecting it to be normal like probably most others. I enjoy not needing to grind as well, I tend to dislike games that make you feel like you need to go out of your way doing handfuls of fights to safely progress. As for Bravely Default...not on my radar, but maybe eventually, since I know Octopath devs made them and Octopath 1 & 2 are godly.
@IosLocarth
6 ай бұрын
@@Bizkit047 if you are gonna check out Bravely Default eventually I'm gonna just say that its gonna feel a lot more like FF5 than the Octopath games. It even does what you said you liked about 5 with it being a bit of a two job system and building up some stupid busted builds that wreck late game if you know what youre doing
@nattya01
6 ай бұрын
Where is dirge of cerberus? A classic why does it exist.
@Bizkit047
6 ай бұрын
Dirge of Cerberus wasn't on the tier list site for whatever reason, but I haven't played that, nor plan to play it regardless.
@nattya01
6 ай бұрын
@@Bizkit047 Smart decision. I love ff7 but can admit this game is terrible.
@cjw8497
6 ай бұрын
I like ff2 but I played the GBA version with speed up. And I never spent time grinding.
@Bizkit047
6 ай бұрын
The GBA & PSP versions of FF2 are more reasonable, they made mechanic changes to those so it's not as brutally challenging of a game as OG/PS1 versions.
@Darthlightskin
6 ай бұрын
Final fantasy x better be at the top biz 😂😂
@DefinitiveDubs
6 ай бұрын
It's surreal to me how VIII's reputation has done a complete 180 from 15 years ago or so. Nowadays I see a lot of people calling it one of their favorites, or at least very high on their list. When I emulated it so many years ago, I thought it was one of the most mediocre and forgettable experiences ever. Maybe I should give it another chance. Have you played Vagrant Story?
@Bizkit047
6 ай бұрын
No to playing Vagrant. Also, I don't think 8's changed THAT much in reception. In the PS1 era it definitely struggled against 7 & 9 for reputation, but later on after that it did better. It's still heavily controversial.
@lonestar6709
6 ай бұрын
7-Rebirth better than FF7?! I've heard everything now. Alongside 8 and X being better than 6.
@Bizkit047
6 ай бұрын
If you don't think a fair amount of people enjoy Remake more than FF7 OG then I feel you don't look up opinions on it much, it's not uncommon at all. Nor is something like 10 being more likeable than 6.
@ConnorJG76
6 ай бұрын
The pain seeing 8 of all things but above 7 and 8, additionally 12 and CC need way more respect.
@thegamewin100
6 ай бұрын
FF6 isn’t at the top not suprised 💀 just kidding though we all have opinions
@IdkAkaIdk
6 ай бұрын
6 & 7 is the strongest but this does strike me more as a personal list so
@SavageTengu
6 ай бұрын
Nioh 2 is closer to Sekiro than strangers of paradise, they tried to take the Nioh 2 formula that had its own name and not the final fantasy tag to hook in curious players. By making strangers they got people to buy a good but diluted version of a game that already exists with more identity. Again strangers is good but it's kinda irksome seeing it get all the credit for great fun gameplay when the real reason you bought it is just cuz it says "Final Fantasy". Consumerism at work there. I digress, really good tier list I liked 16 and can't even disagree with anything you said about all the ffs.
@Bizkit047
6 ай бұрын
I can't speak for others, but I know I definitely didn't say "Wow, Strangers is completely new combat never before seen." The idea of taking a working formula and throwing a popular title on it is great, because it can get people to try those older games that it borrows from if they like it enough, rather than be stuck forever in obscurity. The people I follow that like both games seem to love Strangers just fine without disliking people for not having played Nioh 2.
@SavageTengu
6 ай бұрын
@@Bizkit047 Okay you have a point, if slapping a name they know piques their interest enough to as you say bring certain games out of obscurity then yeah I agree. Didn't really consider it that way.
@akbarnaqvi4737
4 ай бұрын
I played both Niohs before SoP and I like SoP better tbh, Team Ninja innovates on their formula in a very clever way integrating the job system and elemental weaknesses like a classic FF which makes it more engaging to me.
@ALeafOnTheWind42
6 ай бұрын
Did you say 12's battle system is a better version of 10-2's? Did you mean 13 (instead of 12)? Cause I can't come up with anything remotely similar about 12 and 10-2's battle systems... At any rate, I think 10-2 has the best battle system in the series... And everything else about the game is horrendous. Your view of 12's story hurts me cause I think it's probably top 3 stories in the series. I love 12's story. Vaan and Penelo suck of course, but if you ignore their existence, I love 12's story and how it unfolds. My real hot take though: 2 is not nearly as bad as its usually made out to be, and the real problem with 2 is not what people usually complain about. I actually think the character growth system in 2 is kind of decent. It creates a few oddities like using magic in situations you don't especially want to just to level it up, but otherwise I think (at least in the Pixel Remaster) it works out decently well. The real problem with 2 is that its dungeon design, especially when combined with its encounter rate, is atrociously bad and un-fun. Pandaemonium is possibly the worst final dungeon in the entire series (only 3 rivals it) and its such a massive slog.... Don't get me wrong, I definitely think 2 is on the lower end of FFs for sure. But when I recently played through the Pixel Remasters, I found that I had more fun with 2 than I did with 3. 3 was pretty good on the Floating Continent, and then absolutely fell off a cliff, crashed and burned for me. Ultimately culminating in the worst final boss in the series without the slightest bit of question. I'll never understand who thought it would good to give the final boss exactly 2 options, 1 of which is a massive beam that trucks the entire party for most of their health that it uses almost every turn, and the other a melee that it almost never uses. Just downright terrible
@Bizkit047
6 ай бұрын
To note, I played FFXII (TZA) version, not OG. FFXII/X-2 comparison were things like License Board were similar to Dresspheres and pace of the ATB usage was similar too. Not much overall, but it does feel like XII (TZA) took 10-2 and went with that.
@leko3969
6 ай бұрын
let me help you Amazing- 7 8 9 10 Pretty good - 12 6 16 15 okayish to play- type zero x-2 ff13-2 - 1 to 5 trash umplayable- 13 13-3
@wiseguy240Winston
6 ай бұрын
FF2 is definitely not okayish lol it's trash and FF4 is arguably amazing and the 1st great entry. 5 is pretty good. 15 okayish cause it was an absolute train wreck at launch and the game's combat is lame. 13 & 13-3 okish cause those games weren't entirely bad but absolute hit or misses in multiple areas like ost, battle system, etc. 8 was my 1st, but it was not amazing. It was the new FF2, but I would say pretty good. And 13-2 pretty good.
@leko3969
6 ай бұрын
@@wiseguy240Winston 13 is a pure entire TRASH, worst final fantasy up to date, only thing more trashier is ff13-3
@LordChoadly
4 ай бұрын
So he puts 8 in the top category?🤡😂
@AuronSuper95
6 ай бұрын
Final Fantasy 8 is FACTUALLY not the best one bizRage
@KurayamiGGEZ
6 ай бұрын
Bizkit047 is like one year older than me. You would think that he'd be more biased towards retro. I think he made his list based more on modern representation and not what he thinks is better. I personally think 7 OG and 7 RM should be switched. Yes, OG does have issues that RM fixes, but RM has worse combat imo. Idk how 8 is better than 7 OG since 8 has such a weird combat system. Although he did rate X and X-2 correctly. X-2 was so bad imo. This tier list could've been better.
@DarkLink75
6 ай бұрын
"How dare this tier list not cater to MY opinion"
@Bizkit047
6 ай бұрын
You should google the definition of "opinion." It doesn't mean what you think it does.
@KurayamiGGEZ
6 ай бұрын
@@DarkLink75 I'm allowed to have one. Thank you. Can you people not attack someone with an opinion for once?
@KurayamiGGEZ
6 ай бұрын
@@Bizkit047 Yeap, and you have the right to that opinion. I know what the word means btw.
@Brioz_
2 ай бұрын
HIS tier list would have been better if it reflected YOUR opinion? Are you dumb?
@IosLocarth
6 ай бұрын
Oh if you at least enjoyed 13 then you should at least love *playing* 13-2. The gameplay is absolutely fantastic but the story is aight. Theres to much that I kinda like about the story that ends up being dragged down by so much ither bullshit. We dont talk about Lightning Returns
@NAzo.
6 ай бұрын
Holy yikes at this list. FF8 over FF6? Cringe. "I don't like Kefka because he's a clown", "I want a real serious villain" Did you actually play the game and not notice all the horrific shyt he did? The story in FF6 is better than FF5 and way more than FF8. FF5 story they didn't take themselves seriously. It's more on the lighter side intentionally. Also at least I can appreciate it's not another list with FF7 on top oh god those lists are cringy af. Likewise with FF16. And FF7 remake on top? An incomplete story and game on top and better than the original? I can go on and on. Also All Final Fantasy from 4 up to FF14 used some semblance of the ATB (Active Time Battle) system just to clue you in. The CBT system is the upgrade to the ATB system in case you didn't know. Even FF7 remake and FF7 rebirth uses the ATB system. You can go read it up on the wikia if you like. "Final Fantasy Battle system".
@Bizkit047
6 ай бұрын
"Holy yikes at this list. FF8 over FF6? Cringe." 'Your opinions don't match my own??? Cringe! - Degenerate behavior.' Your life must be rough if you get cringed out whenever someone doesn't side with your opinions lmao. "I don't like Kefka because he's a clown", "I want a real serious villain" Did you actually play the game and not notice all the horrific shyt he did? The story in FF6 is better than FF5 and way more than FF8. FF5 story they didn't take themselves seriously. It's more on the lighter side intentionally. It doesn't matter if he did evil stuff, he's still a silly clown, which is extremely obvious while playing the game. Don't pretend he has a serious persona. I'm not sure why FF5 was brought up as a comparison either, I don't think FF5 has a good story as well compared to 4 & 6. "Also at least I can appreciate it's not another list with FF7 on top oh god those lists are cringy af." Phew, glad I didn't do that, I wouldn't want to over cringe you. "Likewise with FF16. And FF7 remake on top? An incomplete story and game on top and better than the original? I can go on and on." Yea, FF7R is fun as shit. Sick combat, storytelling, music, etc. Can't wait until Rebirth probably also curbstomps. "Also All Final Fantasy from 4 up to FF14 used some semblance of the ATB (Active Time Battle) system just to clue you in. The CBT system is the upgrade to the ATB system in case you didn't know. Even FF7 remake and FF7 rebirth uses the ATB system. You can go read it up on the wikia if you like. "Final Fantasy Battle system"." I mean, except for FF10, which is 100% turn based and no ATB even referenced or used, so that is incorrect. Also, FF7 is realtime, but utilizes ATB for expending abilities/items/magic. A unique usage of ATB that isn't at all like FF4-9 & 11-14. I'm not quite sure what the point was here anyway. If your point was to try to say FF7R is an ATB system instead of real time action, then that point falls flat easily.
@NAzo.
6 ай бұрын
@@Bizkit047 I brought up FF5 because its story wasn't serious as I already wrote. It was light hearted compared to the previous release which was very serious and FF6 being story driven. Very easily understood comment. Your projection of Kefka and FF6 is delirious. I'm of the belief now you're one of these folks who hate on FF6 for no real reason other than knowing it's popularity solely based on your petty critique and no real criticism. You enjoy a game (FF8) that was so badly localized and why this effected Squall as a character so badly that it changed his entire persona that was different in the Japanese version. It made zero sense to those us how Squall can act the way he is and suddenly be different and likewise with Rinoa dropping Seifer for Squall. It's all thanks to bad localization just as it has ruined many other games. FF7R is not real time combat. That's Final Fantasy 11, 12, and 14 1.0. Their combat system is literally called Real Time Battle (RTB) You do realize the entire point of the ATB system was to make the combat system more like a genuine fight so long as you had it on Active Mode? FF7R uses not only the ATB system but 2 other systems called Operator mode and Punisher Modes. You're just too dumb to know wtf you're talking about because you're actually talking about FF16 r3tard. I hate proud mf's who pretend they know what they're talking about. Anyways, Rebirth probably adds a 4th with that dual-tech thing possibly a 5th mode too. FF10 is not turn base at all. It's called the CBT (Conditional Turn Based) where in if you use specific moves or spells you're forced a cooldown so you have to strategize without comprising your turn on the list. Traditional Turn base doesn't do that. What else to expect from a guy who thinks FF10's combat system is turn base HAHA. Research next time before opening your mouth and just to point out I didn't write cringe merely because of your picks. It's your reasoning which were cringy af. At least when FF7 fanboys give their reasoning it comes with passion.
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