Cisco should be higher since his blasts are probably as powerful as Allegra’s blasts, if not stronger. He could also breach everything shot or thrown at him away, and he was shown beating killer frost in season 3
@KoshoReacts
2 жыл бұрын
mehhh i still think overall he isn't THAT strong. He can breach anything thrown at him true, BUT would he have time to do that, prolly nottt.
@AlexanderScott66
2 жыл бұрын
@@KoshoReacts He can literally take any opponent and just send them into space like he did with Cicada's dagger, or just send them to some other Earth(back when that was a thing pre-Crisis). Plus, he can know ahead of time what will happen by vibing, so he can just portal to a rooftop, then portal his opponent into a volcano, or space or something.
@paulbrysonolonde6634
2 жыл бұрын
Cisco is powerful not as you think first he is a mechanical engineering genius that's an advantage he also has the vibe blast like the way reverb was powerful
@silvervampire1245
2 жыл бұрын
@@KoshoReacts Kosho 😘
@Lerch916
2 жыл бұрын
@koshoreacts Cecile btw didn’t lose that ability, she still has it and it continued to grow in season 8
@ambrusraul2297
2 жыл бұрын
Lets talk about ranking the Forces : Iris : Forces Barry to remember everything , Forces Barry to go to therapy , Forces Barry to Merry her at a funeral Thawne : Forces Barry to rescue his mother Forces Barry to kill his mother The Music Maestro : Forces Barry to sing and dance
@kungawogcelu9898
2 жыл бұрын
Eva deserves to be in invincible she doesn't only control and travel through mirrors she can can do the same to every reflective surface( glass, water) this was also mentioned in the series. Like imagine you're in you're car and a pair of hands just comes out you window and snatch you or your busy on your phone and a hand pinches your nose. There are basically reflective surfaces everywhere so she is invincible. Plus she can make clones of herself which I think you failed to mention. And can make clones of other people.
@aliakseyfryauf2123
2 жыл бұрын
Human eyes are reflective too so she has an insta kill ability just come out their eye balls.
@saberking847
9 ай бұрын
@@aliakseyfryauf2123 I didn't think about the eyes
@saberking847
9 ай бұрын
The clones are pretty weak though
@cameron_gou1192
2 жыл бұрын
Killer frost can also freeze things from very far away like she did in season 3 so technically she could freeze all the water and blood in your body so that’s an instant kill
@Kyo-ek7ng
Жыл бұрын
I don't think he knows what cryokinissis is because that's a powerful power
@nbahighlights7060
Жыл бұрын
And she can super regenerate
@EmmzMC
Ай бұрын
Heat transfer takes time so by the time Barry runs him to star labs his hands would be only a little warm like holding a cup of hot chocolate
@MoriisMusic
2 жыл бұрын
eva is able to travel through ANY reflective surface including windows and more which is kinda op
@caliberFPS3
2 жыл бұрын
There is a problem with timeline," the more you use timetravel the less the rules aply to you" so it would be quite dangerous for Barry to go back in time every time he failed. Plus Barry will break the timeline because he is Barry.
@97faz
2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely great vid !!!
@KoshoReacts
2 жыл бұрын
@skaterguy2860
Жыл бұрын
Love the video man just a quick correction. We did see Mia queen get mind controlled by Despero in Armageddon. Sorry about that you said we never saw the power but just letting you know we did. Kosha
@Yeyoooo
2 жыл бұрын
Wasn't Cecile given the strongest meta powers in the negative part 1 episode?
@EthnicEditsTM
2 жыл бұрын
yeah but cecile kinda abused it and led to her losing it
@SherloxPro
2 жыл бұрын
I think you mixed up speed mirage and time remnant lol. A speed mirage is merely an afterimage and can't actually interact with things. It's served to confuse/daze your opponent
@KoshoReacts
2 жыл бұрын
....yes indeed i may have perhaps made a slight error in my phrasing.
@Arifureta_is_fire
2 жыл бұрын
@@KoshoReacts also what you said about nobody using a cellphone was wrong
@Infinitelybetter899
2 жыл бұрын
This is very good ranking keep up the work man and btw Kosha.
@magmaticgames
Жыл бұрын
Orlin was not a master of combat. He was a construction worker with super strength. Also, when Barry phases (becomes intangible), he vibrates at the frequency that the object he's trying to phase through vibrates at. This is why he doesn't just sink through the ground when he phases through walls and obstacles. In order to make bullets and rockets go through him, he would have to make physical contact with them. So he'd have to get hit by the bullet, then start vibrating before it goes any further into his body. Also, the RPG would just blow up, he can't phase through an rpg. The way he counters these is just by running around and dodging them
@MysticalChampion341
2 жыл бұрын
Everyone complains about barry's speed being nerfed. If it wasn't he would be too overpowered and beat every villain except maybe thawne in like a few seconds or minutes.
@galaxyteam7558
2 жыл бұрын
When you said flash can do anything he can also walk on his own lightning
@Angel.A.6009
2 жыл бұрын
I kind of disagree with Ralph he could make swords with his body make things from metal.
@Nigout
Жыл бұрын
what he said in 22:26 meant he knew he was stoopid
@Bulde_
2 жыл бұрын
Tbh when Ralph joined it was different but since it’s different now it would be nice just to have a new OG member to stay in season 8, like imagine how Ralph would react when Cisco leaves
@criticaltrash8852
2 жыл бұрын
just to let you know barry can go invisible while running i think it was season 6 ep 11 when barry had to run fast enough seem invisible so amunent n that gold guy so they wouldn’t see him he said it to iris
@KoshoReacts
2 жыл бұрын
wow I did not know that, WELP he can't rlly rank any higher sooo now what
@whosemfnpodcastisthis9398
2 жыл бұрын
I mean. At a certain speed he’s invisible to the naked eye anyway. A normal human couldn’t see him. It’s kind of wild. I’m old enough to remember when the flash didn’t trail lightning. He was just so fast it was like a blur/afterimage behind him and some wind.
@Bugg13
Жыл бұрын
i havent seen any comments really talking about how you got speed mirage wrong (no hate just wanna correct you) speed mirage isnt someone vibrating its moving from one spot to another really really fast so they are pretty much in two places at the same time
@jeremyolivares2021
Жыл бұрын
If this list was about general usefulness then frost and vibes powers would be really high up
@batmanwithprep
Жыл бұрын
3:14 Well the thing is in Season 8 she got really op because she could take other mind control powers and could mind control like entire blocks of towns
@robertbartha550
2 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for literally every power in the flash. And Cecile received a boost in the recent episodes, so she is more than just useless
@KoshoReacts
2 жыл бұрын
Yea this was recorded just before that episode came out, so I’d say currently she’d be in the meh-good section
@TheM.K.
2 жыл бұрын
@@KoshoReacts 🥶 she can read minds and is turning into “one of the strongest metas” she is like an empath but x1000
@SpeedForcee_
2 жыл бұрын
@@KoshoReacts yo sorry I didn’t see this before commenting!
@kamalibrathwaite
2 жыл бұрын
@@KoshoReacts You forgot to mentioned, Killer frost can fly. Also Cisco can see the future
@KoshoReacts
2 жыл бұрын
@@kamalibrathwaite she can FLY?
@adamsvk6766
2 жыл бұрын
8:27 i mean.... there is one. Spencer Young used phone against Nora in season 5 to control her if i remeber right
@josephkenaya6893
Жыл бұрын
Despero did use his possession ability against mia when he made her attack all of team flash
@Featey
2 жыл бұрын
8:25 actually there was that one girl in season 5 that had a meta cell phone lol
@batmanwithprep
Жыл бұрын
19:00 I think Despero is a strong because he could react to Flash and could see the future
@boogieman_black3083
2 жыл бұрын
The flash also has invisibility remember he did this against devo and impulse did it as well
@AQWkashorocks246
2 жыл бұрын
I think he mentioned that
@may4916
Жыл бұрын
Clifford only needs Ralph and Kim's power tank any attack and then steal their power
@somethingsomething2712
2 жыл бұрын
Lets gooooo DeVoe finally got the true recognition he deserved
@neerajkumar-nm7km
Жыл бұрын
Firestorm is just super op it's not like he should touch something to change its atomic he can create anything by knowing the atomic value and he literally created gold kryptonite he was so powerful Batman's plane to defeat him was phantom zone
@corey8372
2 жыл бұрын
Good vid “kosho”
@YoungNinjahh
2 жыл бұрын
You uhmm.. kinda dissed my man elongated and then proceeded to make the next power sound OP asf, dna manipulation, Tho I don't believe it's what you think it is, I believe it allows him to swap DNA, including abilities, a power from melting point, but he'd still look like himself. Changing his face and body that was from Ralph. But since Ralph was pretty much the last one DeVoe didn't get yet, he couldn't do that, he jumped consciousnesses using that OP chair. Then when he got Ralph, he morphed into himself, cured from all ailments from his previous body using that DNA manipulation from Melting Point, and a fitter sorta younger looking face and body using Ralph's abilities, maybe he even gave himself abs too.. Also, with nulls gravity power he can make whatever do whatever, gravity wise, through physical touch, it doesn't always have to be an AOE move if I'm not mistaken, but it can be, although if he just anchored himself first at a heavier gravity than what he'd use to for the whole area and then touching the ground later, all ops fly and he'd be good or maybe in a little crater... S/n this was all of the top of my head from memory so I might be wrong, at least somewhere, but hope you like my application for joining the channel. Hmu yo
@facemakersideofmemes
Жыл бұрын
the time reminates you for got that abillty: can go back in time to create more of your self with out phasing
@DonQuixoteSosa
3 ай бұрын
Using DeVoe as the first person he’s talking about and than not properly explaining his powers and the ones he stole kind of defeats the purpose of the rest of the video.
@hjonkhjonk2471
Жыл бұрын
Ummm actually you were wrong about nobody using their cellphones to fight in Central City, because there literally is one in S5
@ayayayayayayayayayaya78
2 жыл бұрын
1:22 *me calls my boyfriend* yo we gotta bring the thinker back for u
@Boud-FN
Жыл бұрын
22:24 yeah i agree
@backtrackmad8806
2 жыл бұрын
This video has triggered me very much, first of all there’s no way Frost can beat vine or elongated man and second of all Ralph can’t get hurt by bullets or any sharp objects
@AlexanderScott66
2 жыл бұрын
Frost can just freeze elongated man, and was matching Cisco when they fought in S3. She was also pretty new to the whole existing thing and Cisco has had a tad bit more experience
@roystensroyalretribution3476
2 жыл бұрын
Isn't Ralpha almost invincible, like no bullet can hurt him, he can absorb any force that comes at him and repels it. His main weakness is stuff that can melt skin.
@michaeltuitt2847
2 жыл бұрын
I think I understand why you're underestimaring alot of these guys powersets now, the wiki your using. Use the Arrowverse wiki if your trying to scale these characters from the shows. goes more in-depth on their abilities, especially Frost.
@bellabella3312
Жыл бұрын
Kosho just a hint that ability that let Cecile put emotions in she still has them in season 7
@zachsmith5766
2 жыл бұрын
Is Kosho your real name?
@Chickenisthic
2 жыл бұрын
Dude do your research 1st of all frost has something called "ice healing" and 2nd Eva can go through anything that's reflective
@Elvis38009
2 жыл бұрын
OHSOK
@kistonplank198
2 жыл бұрын
It will change the timelineHe goes back into the future and he does something to your question I have a The timeline
@just4guyyyyy
2 жыл бұрын
I dont think ralph should come back but a new character like ralph should replace him
@littyagain9402
2 жыл бұрын
despero is def above flash level in power ur wylin on that one bro
@noonecares9239
2 жыл бұрын
W vid
@KoshoReacts
2 жыл бұрын
W support
@I-am-a-gaming-channel
2 жыл бұрын
And about time line you do time travel you world creat a flash point
@caliberFPS3
2 жыл бұрын
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@margaritacharalambidou9304
2 жыл бұрын
There is a problem with timeline," the more you use timetravel the less the rules aply to you" so it would be quite dangerous for Barry to go back in time every time he failed. Plus Barry will break the timeline because he is Barry.
@syedalihussain5765
2 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking time travel doesn't work that way in CW
@AlexanderScott66
2 жыл бұрын
Savitar was overplaying that statement. The rules always end up applying, but because Savitar was sticking himself in a time loop, he was constantly changing the timeline at the point he came to the present and faded out of existence when he was forced out of the time loop. The only way that would affect Barry is if he kept losing then going back in time. However he would eventually win and it would catch up to him.
@bellabella3312
2 жыл бұрын
Actually I will not change much because he will only be going back like 8 minutes so it will not change much
@TheSpacePlaceYT
2 жыл бұрын
@@bellabella3312 You technically would create duplicates of yourself and you automatically would create a paradox. Say you go back in time to grab a cup. In the past, you would see yourself going to grab a cup. This means if there is no alternative timelines, then you theoretically are forced to go back in time because you wouldn't exist otherwise. If there are alternative timelines, then the person traveling back in time that would go back to the future would see ANOTHER alternate timeline, so theoretically, you break time and reality.
@mastermonkey1457
2 жыл бұрын
Kosho
@voidiac5832
2 жыл бұрын
There’s an exception to the Barry can beat any non speedster villian the tar man in season 3 I’m pretty sure was constantly tar so he wouldn’t be able to touch him with being burnt
@Ali-Sensei
2 жыл бұрын
he would touch him for attosecond and get burned then he would tornado hand him solid and a supersonic punch for the final blow.
@TJOAT
2 жыл бұрын
I think Eva should maybe be higher since Eva’s powers not only extend to mirrors, but also glass and basically any reflective surface
@slapahoejujitsu8257
2 жыл бұрын
The speed force aura only protects him from the effects of high speed travel
@anidiot192
Жыл бұрын
Ultimately it doesn't matter too much considering he can react to basically any attack so in a fight he shouldn't be taking damage unless he's fighting somebody with speed relative to his.
@frozenjoltz7461
2 жыл бұрын
Despero can actually posses other living things like he possessed Mia
@SimplyVerbo
2 жыл бұрын
(kosha) bro i would never skip thro ur vids bro there are MU WAA literally Invincible
@ninjapuppy2779
2 жыл бұрын
Your wrong about cesiel she still has her powers
@DON.KENNYEL
2 жыл бұрын
Despero's powers that we haven't seen in The Flash are the powers/abilities from the comics. Also, Despero can manipulate reality in the comics, but when he was fighting Atom, and Flash, he only tricked there minds, he didn't "alter reality" he just tricked/manipulated there minds.
@johnyoung8691
2 жыл бұрын
Cecile should be higher on this list because she also has the ability to steal other metahuman's powers as of Flash 8×19
@aannggee11
2 жыл бұрын
Not anymore she’s useless
@Thedestroyer-hj8kc
2 жыл бұрын
Psychic meta humans
@lucifertempest9566
2 жыл бұрын
@@Thedestroyer-hj8kc yeah and isnt thinker psychic?
@Thedestroyer-hj8kc
2 жыл бұрын
@@lucifertempest9566true
@loganoliver2305
2 жыл бұрын
saw the tt came right here
@KoshoReacts
2 жыл бұрын
My guy 🤝
@jimmyholland9096
2 жыл бұрын
kosho or cosho or quosho or wosho or rosho or toes. silly question its toes everyone likes feet pictures.
@natashi7890
2 жыл бұрын
Wait, Firestorm can MANIPULATE matter at an ATOMIC LEVEL? That’s such a strong ability. F*ck turning weapons into dust couldn’t he do the same thing to human flesh? Can he transform himself? How about large quantities such as air, or illnesses. This creates so much opportunities. Also for Eva, could it be any reflective item or only mirrors?
@tigerboom9956
2 жыл бұрын
He cant manipulate living matter, only abiotic
@inferno_yt224
2 жыл бұрын
The thinkers gravity and sound got an upgrade he isnt affected unless he wants to and I feel like if it wasnt for plot. He would of soloed flash
@The_Daily_Sub
2 жыл бұрын
What about the new upgraded cecile in season 8
@margaritacharalambidou9304
2 жыл бұрын
Ralph is pretty forgetable because he came quite late to the show so i didnt miss him that much. I did miss Cisco though because he had been there since day one. Also what his actor did is unaxeptable.
@b1ittz447
2 жыл бұрын
Kosha, also congrats on hitting 3k subscribers. Your the freaking best!
@KoshoReacts
2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOUUU BZ SAVAGE
@tariffictypist7372
2 жыл бұрын
I think you also forgot to mention Ralph is almost completely invulnerable to most attacks
@jaredvenegas7179
Жыл бұрын
Killer frost should be higher because she has control over all ice and snow not just throwing icicles
@dragonrider8693
2 жыл бұрын
doesn't Cecille now have the power too take the powers of other people with telepathy. And she can now move peoples emotions into other people?
@propthetopofacop
Жыл бұрын
that was only because the sage force allowed her to, so she could save the forces
@Elvis38009
2 жыл бұрын
Cecile should be strong because she can steal any person who has telepathy powers and use it 10x stronger than they could
@AlexanderScott66
2 жыл бұрын
That was a temprary thing that Bashir(the Sage Force) granted so she can help the other Forces.
@Mrlean-xg2bt
2 жыл бұрын
the thing about time travel is if it was real you couldnt just go back in time to save yourself from breaking a leg cause then your past self after like five seconds would never need to go back in time to save yourself again there isnt a reason to go back so you saving yourself from breaking a bone cancels because after that your past self would never need to go back in time to save yourself so you can never save yourself you are meant to have the broken bone
@CrunchyMew
2 жыл бұрын
Cecile still has pathokenisis it never left. Plus the ability to feel other people's emotions way better than you think you can be able to predict if someones going to throw an attack and avoid it give her some combat training and she could be a threat(Edit:You could also manipulate what someone thinks with pathokenisis and control the battle field making your opponent predictable)
@CrunchyMew
2 жыл бұрын
I would of atleast put them on Good teir with Mind Reading,Patho,Meta Sensory and Emotion Feeling.
@saberking847
9 ай бұрын
@@CrunchyMew Just saying, she can read their EMOTIONS not their minds
@CrunchyMew
9 ай бұрын
@@saberking847 I mean aren't they able to accurately predict what their thinking which is why Joe wanted her not to read his thoughts.
@thaking2k766
2 жыл бұрын
Almost all villains use technology.. She could disrupt the cold gun from Snart, she could stop and modern car, she can legit disable the thinker from using any hacking ability. Reverse flash uses all kinds of tech, dark matter infusing machines, etc. You're thinking of her powers one dimensionally, guess what? She faces a villain that can't see in the dark (like probably most of them) she can just fight them in s building and cut all the lights. You see that C4 or Claymore attached to your body? Oops now you're blown up and/or can't use it. She could have shut down savitars suit and made him die because he needed that suit to prevent the timeline from catching up with him. You see all those booby traps like lasers or stuff like that? Oops now they're all disabled. Oh you have a super secure base of operations with a highly sophisticated security system (like Earth X's main base thing) oop not working. Villain using some form of spaceship? Dead. Villain trying to launch nukes and destroy the world? Dead. Friend step on a landmine? Don't worry, that's dead too.
@syedalihussain5765
2 жыл бұрын
Cecile also can take powers away from meta humans too as we leant in 8x19.
@AlexanderScott66
2 жыл бұрын
That's only psychic metas and that was temporarily granted by Bashir so she can help the other Forces.
@Ce_usa1
2 жыл бұрын
Kosho, frost took all the heat out of Barry body and made him like a super cold body. He had to vibrate to get hotter. So she technically has 2 powers
@KoshoReacts
2 жыл бұрын
okokk tru but that's more of like an ability not rlly something helpful in combat... Right?
@Ce_usa1
2 жыл бұрын
I guess so, your right
@TripleC_2220
2 жыл бұрын
The only thing I disagree with is Despero’s position. He should have been in the invincible area because the Flash has only beaten him once and the two of them have fought five times. Not to mention the only reason Despero lost is because he was cocky in the end
@getBhavinShah
2 жыл бұрын
Ralph should be higher as he can absorb any hit and can change his size so if killer frost throws an icicle at him the he can just absorb it, maybe even fling it back towards her . He can also change his size , he could be the size of a t -rex to destroy some of the other superheroes
@Traivons_World
Жыл бұрын
Eva’s powers aren't just mirrors because if you actually paid attention to the Flash season 7 episode 3 they clearly say she can control any reflective surface
@florida_made_.533
2 жыл бұрын
Speed mirage doesn’t actually “create” a duplicate it’s basically an after image move so fast that it looks like there’s a clone but in reality it’s just one person or object
@phaseshadow6677
Жыл бұрын
"cicada's dagger can create a force field that takes away every meta's ability" Killer Frost: U sure about that
@getBhavinShah
Жыл бұрын
Dude it is lightning obviously it is going at the speed of light , it does not seem fast because the show makes it go slower so we can actually see it and also there are a lot of speedster villains who were faster than Barry in their season so they can dodge it .
@LeShortArtist
Жыл бұрын
Actually for Despero, He possessed Mia so yes we saw him possess a living being
@Kobedagoat24
2 жыл бұрын
I am just saying when gypsy came to collect he she literally froze Wally and Wally couldn’t touch him so I would think that Cisco could too
@TJOAT
2 жыл бұрын
I think cicada should be lower because her/his power negation effects only work on metas affected by the particle accelerator, or those who have dark matter in them, plus people like green arrow could probably easily beat cicada
@AlexanderScott66
2 жыл бұрын
It was already mentioned by Nora that Oliver tried in the future and failed.
@kungawogcelu9898
2 жыл бұрын
Part 2. Killer frost was also downscaled here because killerfrost doesn't only have cyrokenisis she also has ice healing( can heal herself and others with ice) and her heat absorption should be considered as a power because it works much faster than a normal human. She should be in strong or atleats good because we've seen her fight speedsters like the flash, savatar, zoom and was able to hold them down/keep up with them.
@GentlyMan
2 жыл бұрын
Just a random theory: the negative forces were created when Barry took Thawnes powers away. There was a lightning beam in the sky when it happened, remember how the positive forces were created???
@nate3809
2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm no.
@FBsArt
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. Great theory
@eddie2.069
Жыл бұрын
Cecile can fly and has telekinesis and she can control people with her telepathy now 😏
@DrippyKat
Жыл бұрын
Doesn't devoe/thinker also have dimensional travel and the hacker thing
@besteditz8386
2 жыл бұрын
For Eva it's actually any reflective surface
@KoshoReacts
2 жыл бұрын
Eva is OP dang
@ninjahelper1975
Жыл бұрын
Dude I agree with at least half of it but to back and see the ep's again
@Duluper
2 жыл бұрын
“Barry all the people in the city are scared” “Thanks I couldn’t tell that when we have a person that’s threatening central city”
@MidnightPlayz-q7o
2 жыл бұрын
Underrated ! love the vids and kosho!
@KoshoReacts
2 жыл бұрын
TYY :)
@Traivons_World
Жыл бұрын
Allegra, Frost and Cisco should be in good
@SrEobardThawne
2 жыл бұрын
Good vídeo but Despero possessed Mia
@ten-hut1179
2 жыл бұрын
Cecile can still project emotions, she got them AFTER she had a baby
@benjitzu_
2 жыл бұрын
8:25 Spencer Young crying after that
@noahwoortman9460
2 жыл бұрын
Cecile is now one of thé strongest character
@kamalibrathwaite
2 жыл бұрын
Frost can fly also, her Father flew using his ice power. Also Cisco's power isn't weak, he can send powerful flash waves, vibe the future. Teleportation is good
@dominickpapa5321
2 жыл бұрын
The lighting throw is 700 miles per hour
@thz-1827
2 жыл бұрын
Bruh cecile is op, look the last episodes…
@spyroskonst
2 жыл бұрын
Man you are a natural entertainer. Your energy and editing are so funny. Keep it up!😂👍
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