17:23 [A group of plucky JRPG protagonists approaches] "We would like to speak to the CEO of racism"
@yeahsure.6083
23 күн бұрын
Man..... I disagree with a few things but when you admitted to naming your child after a tales of xillia character.... I did the same thing. My sons name is maxwell.
@javi123fuego
17 күн бұрын
Maxwell is not just a xillia name tho
@yeahsure.6083
17 күн бұрын
@@javi123fuego true. But it was the inspiration
@westonmeyer3110
13 күн бұрын
If I ever have a daughter she will be named Chloe.
@devicing
19 күн бұрын
Abyss changed my brain chemistry at the ripe age of 14 and I haven’t hit the same JRPG storytelling highs since
@ShadowWolfRising
Күн бұрын
Go play the Suikoden Franchise.
@masteroflight7296
23 күн бұрын
I remember when Graces f first game out, many people didn't like it and considered it one of the worst. Graces is not only my favorite Tales game but one of my favorite games of all time so it was really disappointing to learn about its reception. Thankfully in recent years people have drastically changed their opinion on the game and I now always see it high up on the rankings.
@zeroskaterz92
19 күн бұрын
The remastered just announced so yay?
@sirnonsense5033
17 күн бұрын
I always said the story may be abit bland but it had the best combat takes ever had. It also had a lot of funny skits and aton of end battle quotes that were great. Search for tales of graces f we are everything? On KZitem and u will Find one of my favorite moments ever xd.
@zaratastari2457
13 күн бұрын
Graces F has a really good cast of characters to get attached to. And I like the story if I'm being honest.
@stinkyskills
12 күн бұрын
ohh and that games comes out next year again, i cant wait, i was not able to play it and i have heard its so good, so im looking forward to it
@Evilriku13
12 күн бұрын
I think I'd appreciate the game more if the main antagonist and it's motivation wasn't like pulled outta the devs butts basically AFTER you basically defeated said main antagonist who was stuck in the "old friend" Richard for way too long and only after you basically "won the game" you get your explanation for why he or it was the way it was. Even Gaius from Xillia 1 and Muzet were better built up and planned for DESPITE also not being the originally planned main antagonist for the Xillia game before it got split up and the intended main antagonist, Origin, being pushed back and basically "forgotten".
@rellim10
25 күн бұрын
Luke's transition from insufferable loser that needs a slap to insufferable emo kid loser that needs two slaps is truly the best character development of all time.
@DillonWithaBlankie
25 күн бұрын
@@rellim10 YOU GET IT!
@maxwassermann3171
25 күн бұрын
Never before have I been so offended by something I one hundred percent agree with.
@MagilousMenagerie
25 күн бұрын
HEAVILY disagree with this. He goes from being a complete asshole to being a decent person, but that's it. It's nothing special. He's a good protag sure, not one of the stronger ones in the series though.
@thebigchungus4515
23 күн бұрын
@@MagilousMenagerieAin’t no way the Berseria fan gonna talk.
@MagilousMenagerie
23 күн бұрын
@@thebigchungus4515 Ain't no way someone named "bigchungus4515 is gonna talk. Berseria is literally known in the Tales community for best Story, protag, characters and much more. There's a reason almost everyone in the community has it as their favorite game.
@queen_blaze4872
12 күн бұрын
Ok Tales of Zestiria wasn't terribleeeee, it actually had a really profound emotional impact on me- I loved the dynamic between Sorey and Mikleo, and the score is actually one of the most beautiful scores I have ever listened to. But Vesperia is absolutely my favorite game of all time; it was such a core part of my childhood, and getting to hear the opening theme Ring A Bell live might have been one of the most rewarding moments of my life-
@kaiserinkai
4 күн бұрын
I personally loved the Zestiria cast and soundtrack too, it was just everything else I hated. I still have nightmares about the equipment system and hate how the battle system turns bosses into damage sponges that you need to turn half your party members into basically equipment to do enough damage to, and the main story was way too straightforward and boring. Which is a pity because when I had played it for the first time I thought that the world itself was so interesting and it just wound up feeling like wasted potential. Which I was proven right on with Berseria which fully showed said potential. I also ADORE Vesperia SM! It's in my top 3 for sure, what my fave is in that top 3 is always shifting based on my mood because it's so close. The only serious flaw I see in it is the third act feeling very disjointed from the rest plotwise.
@0riginzer036
25 күн бұрын
I love Tales of Graces and even consider it possibly my favorite game of all time. However, it's fine it made it to 6 for you. The story is lacking, I agree, but man that cast is so fun to watch and that battle system satisfies aesthetically AND mechanically. Again, I can see where people may have issues with it, but it says a lot if I actually bother beating the game on the highest difficulty. If I had a daughter, I'd name her Sophie. No contest.
@nathanielwazhere
7 күн бұрын
Zesteria is just ugh…. The fact that Sorrey and Rose HAD to be in the party in order to use others which made a monotonous game even more so!
@Hokaru11792
6 күн бұрын
You're so real for this, I never finished it lol
@violentincantation
23 күн бұрын
ngl endlessly entertained by the fact that i went to go put on my jacket and while talking about entry 6, i see a clip of you with the same exact jacket.
@iceflake6179
25 күн бұрын
Ah another Tales of Abyss enjoyer, Opinion Validated. 🤝 Love it.
@yaboilascall
15 күн бұрын
I only picked up Tales of the Abyss and Tales of Arise. Glad I picked out the best in terms of gameplay and graphics.
@nezkeys79
11 күн бұрын
@yaboilascall they are the worst for gameplay though. Most people talk about Abyss for its story, characters, and pacing (although I don't really like this either). I think the two world game design is objectively awful (compare to Eternia which is how you do it right, or even Phantasia). The backtracking from act 2.5 until the end is also lazy and awful As for graphics Arise is very good yes, but graphics are literally the bottom metric in any tierlist as they're only a bonus. Gameplay > Story > Music > Graphics
@yaboilascall
10 күн бұрын
@@nezkeys79 I dont care trash opinion
@nezkeys79
10 күн бұрын
@@yaboilascallnah
@nezkeys79
10 күн бұрын
@@yaboilascallsaying Abyss has the best gameplay of every single entry is more deserving of "trash opinion". Tell me you haven't played many tales games without telling me you haven't played many tales games As for graphics, the last two games were developed on ps3 (ported to ps4), and Vesperia was 360 but had a graphics upgrade on the definitive edition. Arise was on the PS5 lol so obviously has an advantage. Here's the thing though, graphics are literally the bottom metric in any judgement. If you think graphics is the main metric lol
@bozardo101
17 күн бұрын
Tales of the Abyss has one of the BEST stories in a Tales game. I even watched the anime because it is SO GOOD. During my youth, it made me reflecr on my life of what it means to take responsibility for your actions and how it affects other people. The story of Luke CHANGED my life. Im not even joking lol
@YevhenLight
18 күн бұрын
My top 5 list. 1-Arise 2- Berseria 3-Graces F 4- Vesperia 5-Innocence. I still have to play Xillia's. As you maybe be wondering I totally disagreed about your Arise's opinion, but I consider myself a soulslike lover, maybe that's why I loved Arise so much while more conservative fans hated it.
@justinburchette
3 күн бұрын
33:08~ I really, really, REALLY don't think it's ever fair to criticize a sequel for continuing the story of it's predecessor lol. It's not "baggage" ...it's a fucking *sequel.* Geez, what a thing to say... 🤦🏻♂️
@highresopenings4610
13 күн бұрын
Tales of vesperia is probably the only tales game that had me laughing my ass off while playing
@gerardocruzzumaran206
22 күн бұрын
The anime Gintama recognizes that the Tales of series is an obscure one. They always reference Dragon Quest or even mention Final Fantasy, so when they used Cress and Lloyd in one of their scenes I totally losed it. Phantasia was my first in the series and holds a special place in my heart (except for the SNES NA version)
@CalebCrazyVampire
19 сағат бұрын
But there's no SNES NA version. Are you from an alternative univere, maybe?
@Manny714Illustration
15 күн бұрын
Tales of Eternia was the reason I fell in love with RPG games. it's still my all time favorite. Mutsumi Inomat's artwork and the sprites captivated me so much I swore to become an artist and make my own stories when I was younger. I now sellf publish my own tales-esque Manga series and teach manga classes. I owe a lot to this game and series. I'm Happy you had a chance to play through these games as I have. Not a lot pf people know of or have played Eternia so I'm Happy to see it in top 3. I agree. It's top 3 of my tales list at #1. that being said, LMAO I am #8 of the 10 Tales of Players, I think that my attachment to Eternia let fall in love with Legendia. I get what you mean about the combat, but I still love it haha.
@michelvanderlinden8363
9 сағат бұрын
Tales of Eternia on 3rd place... you know what, I can totally accept that. Its hands down one of my favorite games, and I loved the graphics, and the combat system. And the story took me by surprise by how thought out it was. Seeing things happen from the perspective of the villain? Seeing it from the perspective of a random monster you killed super early in the game and probably never gave a second thought to? Thats some deep stuff that made you reconsider your perspective on your journey.
@carloconsignado4065
4 сағат бұрын
Glad see Eternia getting some love and appreciation. It's also one of my top 3 (top 2 actually) and it is so underrated. So glad to see that it is one of your top Tales games.
@megaspacewaffles
25 күн бұрын
Found you from pokemon stadium and then you casual just drop a video about my favorite series? Peak
@reyming7079
23 күн бұрын
While I do love this franchise, they all move SO slowly and as an adult I don’t have time anymore for them and it makes me sad, same with the trails of series
@idk-vm9wx
19 күн бұрын
Isn't that basically every jrpg sadly lmao. I get it tho I have less tolerance for these long games. At least the combat is more fun than turn based stuff imo (My fav beeing graces f)
@statesminds
12 күн бұрын
“Trails of” lol and they are standard rpg lengths. Im an adult and work all week but still can squeeze 3-5 hrs here and there. Trails is super peak tho so focus only that and ignore all other games 😂
@Evilriku13
11 күн бұрын
@@idk-vm9wx not rly. Games like Undertale, pre Ys 7 titles and say the Final Fantasy games pre FF7 are smaller in scale and time compared to the more modern RPGs which are time eaters, so I can totally relate people being "this is too much for me".
@tiredcat1485
2 күн бұрын
@@statesminds just because YOU can squeeze shit on your time doesn't mean everyone could. Anyways, trails is garbage. Cringe ass characters lol
@rcmg4013
2 күн бұрын
Combat - Graces (also my fave) Story - Abyss Music - Legendia Cast - Legendia Protag - Yuri Char design - Graces (but the 3d models are awful) Gateway / entry to the franchise - Arise Overall best - Vesperia
@GeorgieYorkMorgan
24 күн бұрын
Vesperia giving me Raven is enough to give to it top spot for me lol
@lillyrayne1227
2 күн бұрын
Right after I thought "Huh, I wonder where he's gonna place Tales of Synphonia." "Number five: Tales of Symphonia." 😂
@Goldenkitten1
10 күн бұрын
It will take a very special Tales game to ever knock Berseria out of number 1 for me but otherwise I mostly agree with everything here. And even then I recognize I'm probably being highly subjective just because I love Berseria for essentially following the villains, something so few JRPGs have done (or at least done well) that you could count them on one hand.
@SinisterPlauges
12 күн бұрын
I have not played every Tales game but my top 5 would probably be. ( Vesperia probably 6 for me. Played it for the first time in 2019. Just feel like Yuri carried the cast and story. Karol was the only other of the main cast I really liked. Rita pissed me off lol) 5. Tales of Arise 4. Symphonia 3. Xillia 2. Graces 1. Beseria
@zaratastari2457
13 күн бұрын
22:59 I can't agree about the characters in fact the characters are the ones that elevates the story. However I do agree that the cast takes time to actually get closer compared to other Tales of. Hence the skits also reflects that and the tone of the skits only get the lighten bits in later story or conditions to be made (I actually don't like we had to find conditions to trigger said scenes) where the cast feels more bonded than ever. They give each of the characters a moment to shine and a moment of weakness makes them more humane, especially fits the story they were going with. But the game does suffer from the dungeon map being mazey, I find that one dungeon thats in a waterfall area to be interesting as well as that one underwater cave dungeon. There's also the issue of the 5 lords, which yeah they did well on horror inflicted but the story kinda blazes through the conquest that the lords felt wasted potential. Otherwise the other points are quite valid.
@Icelocks
10 күн бұрын
…I’m one of the ten people that liked Legendia. lol. With that being said, I do acknowledge that most of your criticism for it was spot on. The characters weren’t that bad though. I would still put this over Zestiria.
@nezkeys79
22 күн бұрын
Honestly, the combat in Legendia isn't that much different to Phantasia / Destiny PS1 / Eternia. They're all 2D fighting style like street fighter / mortal kombat games of the time. Legendia doesn't feel quite as good as Eternia or Phantasia ps1, but the difference isn't some huge chasm
@Loyd64
15 күн бұрын
Ngl, surprised you didn't mention the voice actress/director controversy on Zesteria. Though might be better off not knowing about it, i only found out about it, because the pre order bonuses....didn't make sense a few hours in, then even less sense many hours in, I'll leave it at that
@zaratastari2457
13 күн бұрын
I wasn't surprise when Zesteria might be bottom tier. And the controversy is pretty strong that get's me worried about Tales of future.
@mattiasolsson1523
16 күн бұрын
Xillia is my favorite game in the franchise and im be honest Zestiria is good enough in some aspect some fans don’t appreciate like better character models, so please don’t give it so much hate.
@dontestewart5176
13 күн бұрын
I always liked Zestiria, though I can see some its flaws. I was genuinely surprised when I found out it was one of the most hated games in the series
@Evilriku13
12 күн бұрын
@@dontestewart5176 tbf when you show off the "MC" in your trailers alot being female and whatnot and then you release the game with a male MC and have said female MC not appear in the main storyline or being DLC only, then you REALLY deserve fan backlash like that. And being rather "onedimensional" or "flat" main narrative wise didn't help either. Raising Up & White Light are banger tracks from that game tho!
@dontestewart5176
12 күн бұрын
@Evilriku13 I picked up the game years after its release so I knew nothing about the trailers or anything like that. I picked it up completely blind and just didn't entirely hate my experience with it
@Evilriku13
12 күн бұрын
@@dontestewart5176 But you did notice the game feeling a bit "off" in terms of tales standards comparetively, right?
@mattiasolsson1523
12 күн бұрын
@@Evilriku13 Let anyone have their own opinion and experience.
@Roshuwah
25 күн бұрын
Tales of Symphonia was such a game changer for me. Between the great story and characters, but the big thing was that I have a really hard time playing turn base RPGs now lol. Not having to sit there and get punched in my face since I can dodge was huge!
@chrisdiokno5600
24 күн бұрын
Berseria still one of my faves
@Zidane007stone
14 күн бұрын
My very first conscious Tales is Tales of Graces F, enjoyed it so much that after beating it I looked up the series and remembered that I also played Tales of Eternia but at the time I was only learning english, so, had to replay it but understanding what the heck is going on this time, and it was a blast.
@axeoseilez3207
21 күн бұрын
I disagree legendia is a great game and it brought alot of uniqueness to the table. The compass for example is a clock which i enjoy. The battle system is great. I feel like those who dont like fighting games wont like it. So ill concede its niche. Senel is fine i dont understand the hate. Hes just someone protecting shirley. Also innocence should have been in the top 10. The cast was enjoyable the combat butter smooth. Same with destiny. Stahn is amazing a dork through and through. The story was great the swordians are exposition heavy but they help with world building. So to hate on it baffles me.
@Evilriku13
11 күн бұрын
But do you think Shirley gets kidnapped a bit too much?
@NichtcrawlerX
23 күн бұрын
Most underrated? So that would be something like Breath of Fire or Golden Sun? Could not possible be Tales of...
@statesminds
12 күн бұрын
I think even the worst Tales of game is still fun tbh. So legendia may be one of worst but i still have soft spot lol. Hoping we get Destiny DX, real destiny 2, rebirth, innocence and tempest in west someday
@dirtybirdperson4020
23 күн бұрын
Anybody who puts Vesperia this high is my kind of people
@invertbrid
17 күн бұрын
Ive only played few tales games but idk..... I just finished playing it the other day and it doesn't seems that amazing. It's pretty decent JRPG. Seeing many tales fans rate it highly but yea maybe not my cup of tea. Big downside is so many sidequest and sidestory / mini cutscene that u can't keep track of, no sidequest list or marker in map whatsoever, but they have timeframe of when u can access em in story. U pass the timeframe, u can't access em anymore that playthrough. Some of em give nice things too. The story also kinda....just okay imo. Good but nothing amazing. The ending kinda meh too as credit just roll after u beat final boss. U only get single pic of what each character do after final battle. I've played eternia and abyss too, and imo those 2 are considerably better.
@Evilriku13
12 күн бұрын
@@invertbrid What I dislike about Vesperia that isnt much talked about by its enjoyers and reviewers is that Duke just "heads out" after being fought against at the end. Like "I'm done here. Go do your stuff, and I do mine!" which felt quite impactless, even with his true form and haha Brave Vesperia titledrop attack which left an impression but that's where it ended for me, as if a part of the game/writer staff forgot their prios or why they built up Duke or how the game should end basically.
@TheZajicekfarber
2 күн бұрын
Symphonia still holds up as the first Tales Of game I played, but I think would Grace is my favorite. I just love the combat and how everyone basically has two stances for ranged and melee abilities. I do have to give a shout out to Berseria for having the best party and voice acting. I just loved watching their skits- even when I felt other parts of the game lagging. They were so good it actually carried over to hurt Arise because I was dissapointed it had such bland and lifeless skits.
@dom.so_
20 күн бұрын
Tales of Graces F Remastered has been announced
@tsand5888
16 күн бұрын
Great list! The fact that you have only been playing the games for a couple of years but understand that old charm that the newer tales games are lacking impressed me. I have the same top 5 as you but I have vesperia as my #1 and abyss as my #2.
@sleetarashi
23 күн бұрын
It's a mixed bag with most of the other titles, especially since half of them I haven't got to play either due to poor timing to acquire certain titles or due to the inaccessibility to play them due to my base region, but despite that, one thing I will definitely agree is putting Abyss at the top of the list. It does everything right as you said: a featured cast with some of the richest developments in the series, a solid version of the LMBS, and dungeons with enough challenge for amateurs and experts alike. Also on a personal note, I'm a big simp for Tear
@nightnightbar3862
Күн бұрын
this is why we need reboots/remakes/ports of the destiny series they always get solid ranks for us NA people and it never even got released for us... and we need that phantasia nakiri dungeon sequel too.
@ViewtifulBeau
Күн бұрын
Tales of Symphonia is the only game, not just in the Tales series, GAME, that I've bought 5 times. Little did i know my original purchase is the way lmao.
@nathanielwazhere
7 күн бұрын
Happy to see my favorite tales “Tales of Graces” so highly ranked!! I feel not a lot of people talk about it
@jajameeon
20 күн бұрын
Xillia at 9? oh boy that's awful
@veghesther3204
25 күн бұрын
The import games really COULD use a PS4 PS5 Switch port so could Destiny 1 PS1 Eternia and Legendia.
@christophersmith3307
4 күн бұрын
Me: Excited to see content on the tales series I wonder where he'll place Tales of Legendia I love that game “#17” Me:DAMN! 🤣🤣
@Voice.of.Thanatos
22 күн бұрын
“If this lost hasn’t upset you yet, it will” You were immediately right. That next game is my #1 😂 (yeah Im basic, sorry not sorry)
@TophDaGreat
15 күн бұрын
Only one I disagree with was TOX2. That game was an absolute chore and I lost interest after 10 hours. Did not finish and I refuse to.
@Evilriku13
11 күн бұрын
plus the new character designs for the old ones are loosing so much personality and originality while in Xillia 1 their designs were unique for each of them and sticking out positively from the scenaries!
@Namingway248
9 күн бұрын
I've heard xillia 2 get a lot of praise over the years, and I just have to ask if anyone else has a problem with the fact it absolutely reads like fanfiction? Like, "This is my super cool, strong original character who becomes best friends with the whole main cast and also he's the only one who can defeat bosses, and also he can go to other timelines, and also he gets 3 whole different weapon types and is stronger than every other party member combined and in the bad ending managed to single handedly kill all of them." I understand that a lot of tales games' strengths are the characters over the plot but Ludger is a problem that infects both aspects, imo.
@Evilriku13
9 күн бұрын
@@Namingway248 It's because Ludger is based on Ludger Kresnik. A name you might have heard before in Tales of Symphonia AND Tales of Xillia 1 (I'm unsure where else that name gets mentioned) and that.. somewhat godlike individual basically became a playable character in Xillia 2 because of the developmental issues Xillia 1 had so that they created a sequel to "fix and fill the holes left". Wish tehy still kept the original design idea of Origin being the planned final boss around instead of making him a supporitve background character with way too little plot relevance.
@Namingway248
9 күн бұрын
@@Evilriku13 I could be uninformed but I'm really not sure what you mean. Symphonia has no mention of the kresnik clan (or ludger specifically) anywhere. I've looked this up to confirm. What's more, the only reference to any kresnik at all in xillia 1 that I can remember or find documentation of is "the lance of kresnik." Kresnik is already a slavic mythological term that didn't necessarily have to refer to anyone or anything specific (according to the aselia wiki we don't hear about the kresnik clan or the original milla kresnik until xillia 2 itself.) Even if the kresnik clan had been spoken of or hinted at in xillia 1 (and it probably was somewhere and I'm just forgetting) nothing about the lore of the kresnik clan would have required literally every problem in the entire multiverse and every piece of interpersonal party drama to revolve around Ludger specifically. Again, the fact alone that our main character is born into this super special clan with this super special power in and of itself is...a juvenile writing decision imo. In a sense, I guess it would be the fastest way to tie up every possible plot thread. But if thats the goal, to tie up plot holes and threads between games...Why not use the character whose constantly referenced as a world crossing, legendary adventurer (Aifread)?
@Evilriku13
9 күн бұрын
@@Namingway248 oh in Symphonia it's mentioned in a book that, iirc, is in Iselia Colette's house in a bookshelf.
@thebristolbruiser
19 күн бұрын
Eternia is great, but Gnome’s dungeon was ruined by the annoying backtracking. That’s the only negative thing I can think of. It also has great pacing, I never felt the need to grind and was unlocking new, useful skills regularly. Next time I play it, though, will be on an emulator with a controller so I can avoid getting hand cramp from the PSP.
@raina1848
17 күн бұрын
For me, the only thing I was afraid of in Eternia was something called the Volt puzzle glitch that was said to be on some older copies of the PSP game where basically you are stuck and softlocked out of the whole rest of the game because it freezes during the Volt sequence. Luckily, mine didn't have this problem, but I was terrified when I heard about it before I got to that point in the game.
@JustJulyo
25 күн бұрын
And now you've skyrocketed to my top 10 KZitemrs
@SNguy91
Күн бұрын
Eternia was my first Tales game and still my most favorite till now
@danyygaming8544
Күн бұрын
When he metions Elise, i was thinking of Rean Schwarzer's sister from Trails of Cold steel! Wish he would dive into The Legend of Heroes games and give his opinions on them. (Well since he played all those Tales of Titles he can play from Trails in the Sky all the way to Daybreak! 11 games!).
@secondchances1232
18 күн бұрын
Love this series. Sadly haven't been able to play as much of the series as I'd like. Tales of graces f has my all time fav battle system. Tales of the abyss has my favorite video game couple of all time.
@Jappio
25 күн бұрын
Fantastic list! I'm a big fan of Vesperia as well. I'm surprised by how low Destiny DC is from everything good I hear about that game!
@KingBanks18
5 күн бұрын
I respect the hell out of the effort out in to make this video… I disagree with most of it, but still really respect you for making it!
@sheepcouldtalk
4 күн бұрын
I started my Tales of journey with the PS3 games Graces F and Xillia 1 and 2, and Xillia just holds very special place for me, and nothing has yet knocked it out of top spot. With the remaster of Symphonia and Vesperia, I was finally able to play those, and thought Symphonia was great, even so many years later. While i found Yuri interesting for being as you said, something of an anti-hero, i just didnt find the story or characters all that compelling. Like the story just felt very flat, all the same tone, and characters (to me) didnt feel like they had anywhere to go as far as growth. But with the Tales of Graces F remaster coming out soon, i want to revisit some of the games.
@exalt7787
10 күн бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought Tales of Graces had the best combat system. It's still a blast to this day. Definitely some of the best characters, too
@neilphilippeocampo4420
15 күн бұрын
Glade to see eternia and abyss at the top. Still exploring ps2 games and haven't been able to continue my abyss 1st time gameplay thanks for the list
@nathanielwazhere
7 күн бұрын
Wow I hope they give us innocence R in English during this remaster process they are doing. The characters look freaking amazing!!
@WillTheGreatest
23 күн бұрын
Tales mentioned. Engaging for the algorithm.
@0ctopusComp1etely
18 күн бұрын
...It is remarkable how much I agree with this whole listing. By the time I got to the top five~ish, they're all so good that I could see arguments for any of them, and don't really care about the order. But man, I just love hearing people appreciate what joys this series has to bring.
@jeje8944
15 күн бұрын
Berseria could be higher but i also haven’t played every tales of game so maybe that will change but abyss being number 1 thank you for validating my favorite game of all time abyss is so peak
@bleh491
6 күн бұрын
Had to double check but I am surprised Symphonia 2 isn’t on the list. It wasn’t very good but I didn’t it was so bad it should be forgotten
@fistfullofsalt6311
20 күн бұрын
Senel from Legendia will always be my favorite hands down.
@westonmeyer3110
13 күн бұрын
Senel is actually the worst character in Legendia and he is still one of the best Tales characters.
@Evilriku13
11 күн бұрын
@@westonmeyer3110 ...what. Do you mean worst character as in playstyle wise or designwise or characterwise like narratively? Because you really weakened your statement by contradicting it, or what were you mean to say there? ^^
@Zodia195
13 күн бұрын
Symphonia was my first Tales game. I got it on sale at Gamestop (the Wii was already out so a bunch of GC games were on sale). I haven't played the game in years, but I remember loving it at the time I did play it. Kratos though is still one of my fav Video game chars ever (I never played him though, I always either played Llyod or the pink hair girl). Yes I had a major crush on him too (and still have a bit of a crush on him lol). Oh, did you know this game got an OVA anime made of it? One of the songs from it that plays at the end of the first season (when they travel to another world), it's a BANGER, it's on my KZitem playlist. I really need to replay the game again after I finish Arise. I tried getting into Xilia, but I dropped it pretty quickly because I couldn't get into the gameplay (and that's always going to be #1 for me when it comes to game enjoyment). I might have made the mistake of picking the female first. Currently I am playing Arise, and I am enjoying it. I will say though, I did pick the easy mode and I am glad I did because I can see the flaws in the combat that you've mentioned. The version I got did come with the DLC, so I plan on playing that too. I already know I won't be getting 100% on this game. I personally love the two main chars, they make my Shipping heart flutter lol. Side Quest wise, my fav thing so far is finding those owls, they're so cute. Normally I enjoy fishing in any game, but this game's fishing mechanics are way too complicated then they have to be. #1 and #2 are no shocks because I know those are the favs in the fandom. While I am not a Tales fan overall, I wouldn't mind playing these 2 at some point. Now that Graces f is getting a remaster, maybe Abyss will be next? Great video overall.
@Evilriku13
12 күн бұрын
Did you ever get the Kratos or Zelos ending/Flanoir scenes? I think you'd enjoy them, especially the Zelos one. Wish I could like the ToS OVAs but they have an unhealthy rewritten story which I get why in their pacing but.. having Yggdrasil appear in the Toize(?) Mines first is A underwhelming and B totally unfitting for him from a narrative perspective as the first introduction for the main anti hero antagonist! Dunno how long you played Xillia 1 but.. Milla's gameplay mixes up pretty fast. Like I was also very taken aback by how she plays for the first hour roughly but after it she feels really comfy to use in combat. Otherwise you can always pick and play as Jyde or Jude as he's known outside my country whilst staying playing Milla's story which does help characterizing and understand her alot (also cuz alot of people dont play her side first or ever and think she doesnt show emotions or is "hard to understand" if not unsympathic/toxic whatever just because she has her very understandable set of rules and mindset) in compare to what's shown in his side of the story. And reading you being a shipper: You might wanna pick up Xillia 1 again for that. WHat has been leaked in some asian territory is that a Tales of Xillia remaster is on it's way! I fear they won't add some of the missing content for Xillia 1 that was found in the source code such as Origin as a character, but we'll see.
@JustJulyo
13 күн бұрын
I need to name my future dog Repede
@yogirajmore63
2 күн бұрын
11:28 R has a really good gameplay the thing is it has a very High skill sealing as well. You can combo enemy almost indefinitely even the bosses.
@paladinslash4721
20 күн бұрын
Having Abyss and Vesperia at the top is very respectable. I personally give Vesperia the edge just for Yuri alone, even if Luke is how you should write loser protagonists (Looking at you Intelligent Systems)
@ayatobeats608
14 күн бұрын
Finally, someone recognizes Tales of Wallbreaker for the GOAT it is
@diannerenard
3 күн бұрын
I'm surprised symphonia isn't second to last after Legendia. It was such a snorefest with boring one-dimensional characters, a plot that massively relied in fantasy racism and was a needless prequel to Phantasia, and a combat system that was far worse than any 2D one (except legendia's) and the worst of the 3D ones. And the awful dungeon design didn't help at all. Quite a few of them were annoying and boring. Only saving grace was that it was a prototype of sorts for the legit good abyss and thus paved the way for much better 3D tales games.
@supitjoshua3516
13 сағат бұрын
I dont care who's the 1 and 2. As long as its abyss or vesperia. They both just had to be up there.
@kathleenfullin6098
25 күн бұрын
Thanks for making this list!! I've been a Tales fan for... 10 years now wow, but it always makes me happy to see it discussed by Western gamers as in my experience it's still not a household name like many other jrpg series managed to become. I think your tastes and opinions are pretty fair and valid here (Sakuraba is a wonderful composer!!) but I'd love to see a list of your personal favorites, as the list of Tales games I'd recommend objectively is quite different from my list of personal favorites (I know the game is flawed but you can pry the cast of Zestiria from my cold dead hands 😂). Also, are the VODs of your Tales streams still available to watch on KZitem/Twitch? The clips you showed look quite fun ^^
@DillonWithaBlankie
25 күн бұрын
@kathleenfullin6098 one day i can get around to making a list like that! Ive got alot of projects going right now haha. I do still have those vods the channel is called dillonwithastream and all the videos are in a TALES OF playlist
@Abysslover91
25 күн бұрын
I love the tales series honestly Abyss and Symphonia are my two favorites wish I could try xillia but no chance in less a remaster
@TheWorstPartyMember
23 күн бұрын
I believe a remaster was just leaked so you may be in luck there, friend.
@Evilriku13
12 күн бұрын
@@TheWorstPartyMember it's on it's way, that's all legally allowed to be talked about publically!
@nerdstop5025
2 ай бұрын
EAT THIS, DEMON FIST
@___________0Z0X
25 күн бұрын
Demon fang!
@KnucklestheEcidna
23 күн бұрын
Very sadly after beating Zesteria. both Zesteria and Berseria are what KILLED the franchise for me. the combat felt very BROKEN and unfair with the amount of times that damage got straight up NEGATED. I simply did not like the direction Tales took with its story telling.
@ryannoguera1117
22 күн бұрын
Trying tales of Arise its challenging, flashy and very fun, a decent enough story with a goal and an amazing cast ( though not the best). But thats what got me back into tales game give it a try
@Evilriku13
11 күн бұрын
Also Velvet being too edgy/dark for her own good is also not fun to watch for at least 50 hours. Like I get she wants revenge, I get she is angry and.. somewhat burnt out but she has people around her that travel with her, and nobody's like "yo Velvet, I understand you having PTSD and such, but you really should think more about what you can live for and what makes you happy BESIDES killing others or destroying a religion. You really come across as a one emotion's all character otherwise!". I know she later has a character devlopmental moment with Laphicet but.. it's not like she is less grumpy afterwards, like she still has that mental problem with herself. It got annoying after like 30 hours, wondering if she gets the moment to realize that giving constantly into rage, anger and her bloodlust is not helping her or her dead brother in any way.
@Hydra_X9K_Music
8 күн бұрын
@ryannoguera1117 I liked Tales of Arise up until the final dungeon. Every single enemy there felt like a boss with a ridiculous amount of HP, and they took way too long to kill. I also didn't really like the final boss. He was pretty damn generic. The rest of the game was pretty damn good though but I'm docking 2 points for that final section. I'd give it an 8/10
@Angel-Dust-The-Prostitute
Күн бұрын
10:10 hey look, its the protagonist of every modern yugioh anime! (Yay, I have a feeling if I play this I'm going to suffer a lot)
@martymarc8586
14 күн бұрын
Abyss being number one made me yell out, which I was hoping it would be, but thought you would put VASPERIA! And grace is being number four and top five! And you’re right Symphonia is really everyone’s Gateway
@ezodagrom
13 күн бұрын
About the Tales of Zestiria soundtrack, if I'm not mistaken it was primarily composed by Motoi Sakuraba, with only a handful of tracks having been composed by Go Shiina (like the elemental trials dungeons tracks).
@GeorgieYorkMorgan
24 күн бұрын
Oh the memory from seeing all these games again. 12:07 this town theme will always haunt me. Also for Hearts R i couldn't imagine the game without Gall. He was the only standout for me
@Evilriku13
12 күн бұрын
I agree with you that the Tales of Legendia game overall is messy.. thing is the main characterization and main explanation, aka the "better 2nd half" sadly starts after the game is already beaten with the "main story". Like Namco really should remake the game so that they could fix this issue/s so it actually feels complete instead of making basically a 100 hour long RPG story that has it's characterization and explanation split up which ironically Persona games basically end up copying, the modern ones past P2 EP.. which timeframe enough is quite similiar with each other. Huh. Characters do get more interesting and complex in the 2nd half but who has the patience for a rather 40 hour snooze fest comparetively?
@IttarraOda
10 күн бұрын
I can't believe the Tales game that actually got me INTO Tales as a franchise is the worst one apparently lmao Legendia will always have a place with me and I still enjoy it even now for all its flaws. Kinda crazy. Edit: I want to say Arise could probably be MAYBE 8 or so simply for one important fact, it shows that the Tales series still has a lot of life left in it and can be adopted into a more "modern" playstyle/humor while remaining true to itself and not being TOO eyeroll worthy. I mean one of the side quests has the main character replying to a citizen needing help with "Sucks to suck". While I agree with it being a great game, but a weird Tales game I think that is a reason it could be bumped up as a whole. Vesperia: Here's something that not a lot of people know, but Vesperia had a LOT of influence from the fighting game franchise of Soulcalibur. Including the fluid feel of it, they took the formula from Soulcaliburs 8 Way run system (the general movement and input windows) and put it into the game. You can see Soulcaliburs influence everywhere even in the weapons and armor. That solidified it to Number 1 for me and also showed that while Playstation may have JRPGs in a strangle hold, Xbox can put them out just as well if not better in some cases. Great list Dillon I'm only sad I didn't get to see this when it first popped up lol
@RagnellBlue
16 күн бұрын
I was about ready to disregard a lot of the video after the part about Destiny DX, but I watched to the end to hear out the rest, and I'm glad I did. I actually agree with most of what was listed here, barring a few things I would personally move around due to my own preferences. I tend to focus on the battle system more than I do any other aspect of these games, so that colors a lot of my perspective, and why Destiny R/DX is held in such high esteem for me. In terms of aesthetic, style, pace, and expression, I think to this day it's close to the pinnacle of the series as a whole, not even just among 2D games, but I can see why it might not if you dont invest an inordinate amount of time into learning it's numerous and often obscure nuances. Especially since a game like Graces arguably perfects these things, and is much more approachable on the whole. I still wish more games would implement something akin to the Narikiri dolls that can also.be brougt through to a NG+, was a genius idea imo. Aside from that though, this list was pretty solid! I appreciate that the series made enough of an impact on you to go through them all, and to make a video like this to begin with!
@Aeriesiapna
Күн бұрын
Im sure part of it is nostalgia, since it was the first one i played, and got me hooked on the series in general, but i am a huge fan of Legendia, its far from perfect but i spent a lot of happy hours with it
@zettaeliza2043
25 күн бұрын
Ah, i remember renting Xillia from my job way back in the day (i used to work at gamestop and that was a former benefit), my only real complaint was how *mazelike* the first dungeons were 💀
@Evilriku13
11 күн бұрын
do you dislike the end of Xillia 1? Because of what happened during the development and the two teams basically having had to cut off the story and rush the Olympios world parts heavily.
@xenosanctum2531
10 күн бұрын
Obviously you can check out my own rankings on my channel but to summerize. I can mostly agree with your list with the expection of Phantasia and Eternia= really cannot see how you put those old and clunky games above the later 2D Tales game which where way better IMO. Also Eternia was a joint team game (not team desinty) and Xillia was also a Team Symphonia game.
@hunterofcomedy
15 күн бұрын
GREAT List! Tales of Eternia was my first tales game and will always be one of my favorites. Berseria is my #1 because Velvet is one of the best protags in JRPGs, followed closely by Yuri and Luke from their respective games. I am SHOCKED that someone put Eternia in their top three. Most people have it on the lower end but it's distinctive style, fun characters, and amazing combat system put it leagues above many others in the series imo. My top 3 are Berseria, Vesperia, and tie between Eternia and Abyss. I am curious what your personal list is, considering you said it was different than this list. I hope you'll share that sometime in the future! Thanks for a great video!
@Ekkolocationzz
19 күн бұрын
diehard tales fan here, subscriber gained
@Heavensevidence
4 күн бұрын
Tales of Eternia will always be #1 for me. Maybe its because its the first one I played, but I also thing its because of how vast the world is and well dept each characters are imo. Also Iove the elemental summon gimic they added to the game. I think they added that in Symphonia but i have yet to play it.
@Blade12113
16 күн бұрын
Man I disagree with a good deal of this list but... I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO COMPLAINTS WITH YOUR TOP 3! THE BEST TALES HAS AND WILL LIKELY EVER HAVE TO OFFER!
@Evilriku13
12 күн бұрын
can you explain yourself why you think ToE is in there instead of like Symphonia's evergreen narrative or Xillia 1's depth?
@Blade12113
12 күн бұрын
@@Evilriku13 Sure. It's basically a perfected 2d Tales game. Combat's fantastic with more depth than people give it credit for. The Story is incredible amd I love every character. Symphonia's gameplay has aged like milk for the first third of the game so sure the story is amazing but *god* does the combat drag. And sure while Xillia has a ton if depth to it's combat the story and several characters are shallower than others. Both suffer in 1 aapect or the other while Eteria is a statement to how great 2d tales could be. Which is why it beats both.
@Evilriku13
12 күн бұрын
@@Blade12113 I do agree on the Eternia combat being very strong and the best 2D combat of the Tales of series, sadly better then Legendia. The Story.. is ok, it doesnt have all that foreshadowing and builtup like Symphonia did. I'd say storywise it's on par with Xillia 1. Characterwise.. I wish I could like Reid more (still a name I havent gotten used to) but a thing that somewhat... ruins Eternia for me is the lack of skits where, if you read them either by having learnt any japanese or read the subtitled version from YT, then oh holy fuck what happened to the cast there. The translation is solid in those scenes but.. they come across as boring and somewhat flat to some degree like the Phantasia characters, AND THOSE SUFFERED FROM NAMCO'S MEDDLING AND STITCHING THE STORY TOGETHER, OR WHATS LEFT OF IT (still sad about Winona and the original Arche character perspectives)! Like I dont wanna insult the characterization and wirting there but.. I don't miss much besides some Meredy/Melody moments and some Farah enhancement moments but those are.. smaller if you compare to to how many skits exist for it in the japanese version. Like.. slice of life anime most cutable episodes type of dialogues, like fanfiction level 1 dialogues.. I feel sorry for Reid, Keel (imo he suffered the worst being bullied in skits mostly) and Max/Fog in those skits. At least Rassius got away on a positive note. Speaking of: I don't have much for Shizel I think was her name as an opinion. I think Meredy's mother feels too clichee and besides her unique and a bit too dark toned design (in cloth colours not her skin colour) she drowns too easily, where I'd think I'd forget her if her name doesn't stick out like Rassius and her daughter's name being the first time I heard that name being used in RPGs (Melody instead of Meredy in this case). Also Chat exists, take it for what you will (I don't like her designwise NOR characterwise, heck I'd take Reid over her!). Also visually ToE is pleasing (tho I feel like it drags on later down with how the plot unravels in the last third, which can be a Xillia 1 problem too, just Eternia didn't had a team fighting itself basically nor came out at a problematic time for the company to explain being almost dead and canceled)! Just wondering: What version of ToS1 did you play? The GC one, the PS3 and patched PC one or the "we dont talkabout it" modern ""remaster"" that imo does more damage to the name and brand then helps reminding people why it's an evergreen RPG with somewhat bland main character designs? Because I noticed the shift heavily and that affected my opinion on the gameplay quite some to a degree where I didnt get all the titles for everyone, like doing a 100+ hit combo is exhausting for the non GC versions, even with the stabilized framerate patch for the old PC version. I.. think the combat of Xillia 1 is ok. Sure it has it's depth by it confuses me with how many options I got to put my artes in that I stopped using too complex combos with it, because 4 to 6 artes are enough for one setup, otherwise Elise's negative gate can help out if positioned correctly. What confuses me is.. you find the story shallow of Xillia 1? Like the story or the themes of it? I can understand the former but.. the characters being shallow is not something I share as an opinion, like at all. But you said several characters. Do you mean characters outside the main group liek side characters or which ones? Besides me not liking Leia I think the cast is either very relatable or has some depth that imo only gets really epxlored through skits (no matter if it's the ETC., MAIN or.. third kind of skits), cuz main story wise I'd totally get if you don't like'em, tho it also depends which of the two stories you played cuz Milla gets hated for also her VA which is more complex shown and played out in her story playthrough then Jude's due to her being the MC with Mr Honor Student being the Tidus for her, just more empathic and overly supportive to a somewhat toxic degree which he gets reminded off. That he isn't watching himself first that is. Rowen is my favorite "master" or old man character type in the series and generally speaking in most RPGs I know of, like he isn't Kreia from KOTOR2 but damn he's such a relatable old man I'd wish to marry if he exists.. with that funny beard styled too that is. xD Otherwise do you think Symphonia and Xillia are like close 2nd for you in terms of Tales of games? Like Eternia is your favorite (as it sounds) and then comes Symphonia and then Xillia 1 perhaps? (I really can't stand Xillia 2 that only exists due to the trouble Team Symphonia & team Destiny had that affected other development parties at Bamco too, so let's not get too deep into the confusing and rather mainstreamlined half of Xillia's legacy that is said Tales of Xillia 2.)
@Shinizaru2
8 күн бұрын
I don't hate this list. I would personally rank Berseria lower, because Velvet. I played it pretty soon after it came out, but the market was so flooded with edgy vengeance stories that I really didn't care for her. She was boring and one note to me. Still not as bad as the bottom 4 or 5 games you said, at the very least, so I still dig it. That battle system was cray cray and the main reason I played it. Zesteria was so bad, which is shame...I like Edna.
@younger544
8 күн бұрын
I would switch your #1 and #2 but other than that I am completely on board!
@raina1848
17 күн бұрын
Abyss is my favorite, too. ❤ Also pleasantly surprised to see Eternia so high.
@maxwassermann3171
25 күн бұрын
Glad to see you doing more Tales of content. Personally I definitely wouldn't put Abyss and Vesperia so high, or Zestiria and Destiny DC so low, but I can agree with most your points. But while I love Motoi Sakuraba's work I don't think that Graces' and Xillia's OST are all that great.
@DillonWithaBlankie
25 күн бұрын
Vesperia isnt so high for me personally but you cant deny the impact it has as a whole. Im glad you can agree with the points i made, i was very worried i didnt give enough time into each game since there are so many. Lets be honest all we need is White Wishes for graces and it slays making all the other music moot
@maxwassermann3171
25 күн бұрын
@@DillonWithaBlankie Actually I can't comment too much on Vesperia's impact since I only first played it in 2017 I think when I imported the PS3 version from Japan and bought it again on Switch when the DE version came out, so I was incredibly late to the party. It is a very impressive game in a lot of ways, especially when it comes to content and battle system. But I could never get over how much of a letdown the story was, especially considering that it came after the goat Abyss. As for Graces' music it does have a few tracks that are amazing. I especially love 'Risk Everything', the final dungeon battle theme in L&L.
@invertbrid
17 күн бұрын
Played vesperia recently and didnt feel that amazing to me. Pretty decent still. Gameplay is ok tales standard, story imo just decent. Sidequest / sidestory and mini cutscene kinda killed it for me. No tracker whatsoever, and if u pass the time limit, its gone forever that playthrough, u literally need guides to access know lot of em. Maybe its tales standard idk its been long since i played eternia and abyss, and those 2 are great game.
@Tilkino
22 күн бұрын
Okay...Tale of Phantasia as top 10 is good enough. I always love the game despite being the first. I wish they do a new remake of it. The story isn't bad either and I miss the whole concept of having the summons and a summoner. No games have much of that chasing after summons to summon them in balltle. Maybe a bit in Symphonia, but the summoner is a disappointment to me. The ninja look, but very slow and weak.
@Evilriku13
11 күн бұрын
it definitly needs a remake by everything that's left on the cutting room floor when it was still known as Tale Phantasia where you'd have three story segments, with the first being about Winona and meeting Dhaos before he became "the demon king". The 2nd was originally from Arche's perspective before that one got split up for her friend Rhea who looks ODDLY similiar to her, and with the final act/segment being from Cless perspective into gathering people to finally act against Dhaos after he has changed too much and becoming a worldwide threat.
@dragondrunkard4309
24 күн бұрын
Wasnt there a Tales game that let you tame monsters with some weird monster catching requirement? like line up all the elements? also MC had a split personality.
@jackycheung2781
24 күн бұрын
Yes, there is. Tales of Symphonia Knight of Ratatosk or Dawn of the New World for Western titles. That is once considered an escort title.
@___________0Z0X
23 күн бұрын
Courage is the magic that can turn dreams into reality.
@Evilriku13
11 күн бұрын
@@___________0Z0X Auron is that you? xD
@Raphtor13
19 күн бұрын
You are very abrasive and unlikeable. My least favorite is Arise....and Legendia was my second ever played Tales game and I liked it but I don't remember it much. Berseria is by far my favorite - one of the most memorable games I ever played and it's followed by Symphonia which I loved. The rest fall somewhere in between. OMG Abyss sucked - Luke is sooo immature and stupid irritating and never gets better - that one is just about at the bottom for me.
@tonypolk8
14 күн бұрын
hoping they remaster abyss now that they announced graces being remastered! but i wholeheartedly agree with your top 3 - they can all be swapped out for one another too!
@ozwell1088
21 күн бұрын
Graces f = Eternia = Phantasia > Symphonia > Abyss > All the other are kinda trash, especially anything from Xillia onward.
@Evilriku13
11 күн бұрын
But did you play/experience Tales of Innocence R or Tales of Hearts for DS? Because the DS version of hearts has a better script and character moments pushed forward while Tales of Innocence R fixes the gameplay, dungeons etc..
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