My town has a shoulder on the main road that's about 1m wide. The next town over has the same exact shoulder, except it has a bicycle logo in it. What both towns failed to realize however, is that paint is not infrastructure.
@Shifter_Cycling
2 жыл бұрын
“Paint is not infrastructure” would be a great tattoo
@asdfghyter
Жыл бұрын
ah, yes, the painted bicycle gutter!
@Exl_Kaldra
Жыл бұрын
well then you just cant appreciate the work it took the city to builds a half mm high wall of paint for the cyclist's
@christianmoore7932
Жыл бұрын
Using everyone's money to build new roads that only a small percentage of people would benefit from is not going to happen. Paint is the best compromise
@CarlosAM1
Жыл бұрын
@@christianmoore7932"only a small percentage of people"
@juliapoelstra3624
Жыл бұрын
Today, I'm in a two-way, separated bike lane when I hear honking behind me. I've got a car driving behind me! The two-way bike lane was just large enough for her to get her car down but she's squeezed between two curbs.... And then she was honking at ME! lol.
@discocycle
Жыл бұрын
I hope you stayed in there all day!
@_extrathicc
Жыл бұрын
How the fuck...?
@zimzimph
Жыл бұрын
@@discocycleI hope they educated them
@Gribbo9999
2 жыл бұрын
I have -1 out of 10 for the painted cycle lanes on the side of a busy road in a modern development near Jakarta. The cycle lanes are painted green. Very commendable except they used regular paint with no non-slip ingredient and with a surface very similar to black ice when wet. Doh!
@Snowshowslow
Жыл бұрын
Oof 😣
@fordsquared537
Жыл бұрын
Nah man, you don't get it. No slip paint was 10 cents more per gallon, gotta spend more money on that extra highway lane.
@bigJovialJon
2 жыл бұрын
I would rate a LOW TRAFFIC road with no infrastructure at all higher than a road with painted bike lanes.
@Shifter_Cycling
2 жыл бұрын
I would not argue with this assessment.
@blake-gl4wn
2 жыл бұрын
They’re called ‘quiet ways’ in London, with reduced speed limits. Part of a journey to building a bike friendly city.
@carstarsarstenstesenn
2 жыл бұрын
How to not die on a bike in North America: stay off the busy main roads and take the quiet side streets. Be extra careful at intersections and you're good to go
@zivkovicable
Жыл бұрын
@@blake-gl4wn There is no standard for London "quiet ways"...Sometimes they are OK, but although the limit is 20 mph, this is rarely observed. Even the limit is faster than most cyclists can sustain. In addition to narrow streets with cars parked on either side, sometimes is safer to stick to the main roads. I don't see them as any serious addition to a "bike friendly city"..The main direct routes are used far more.
@hamanakohamaneko7028
Жыл бұрын
This is how Japan has very high cycling rates despite having shitty bike infrastructure on the major roads
@stefat99
2 жыл бұрын
In my experience I would say that some of the worst bike lanes in my city (Florence, the orignal one) are the shared ones with pedestrians, a good way to make the commute way more dangerous for both parties involved😅
@tamaraking8259
Жыл бұрын
I personally prefer sharrows to painted bike lanes because sharrows give you permission to use the entire width of the road and remind motorists that you have a right to do exactly that. Motorists get really mad if you leave that painted bike lane to avoid rocks, broken glass, construction debris and roadkill. My council doesn’t clean the painted bike lanes so it’s like riding through gravel at best.
@Leonium797
Жыл бұрын
Personality I prefer 2 way bike lines because It gives you more room for error when it's quiet or you're traveling with others. Also, if it's on both sides off the road you don't need to cross as often.
@williamharving2229
Жыл бұрын
On both sides of the road? Wow, in what amazing place are you living in that has 4 lanes for bikes? That would be a dream, but my city barely makes sharrows.
@martinkozle
Жыл бұрын
@@williamharving2229Near to where I live there is a 500m stretch of road with 2 way bicycle lanes on both sides. But even when there's only on one side I prefer 2 way lanes on one side than one ways on both sides. Because anyways people drive the opposite way on the one way lanes, so might as well have them painted 2 way.
@dirtywaterpj_dj
2 жыл бұрын
The other bad thing about that painted bike lane is the section with parked cars. If someone opens their car door into the bike lane…
@carstarsarstenstesenn
2 жыл бұрын
my dad got doored by a car when Chicago was putting it's first "bike lanes" in, or as they're more accurately called "bike gutters." luckily he survived with minor injuries but it could have been way worse. At least we have SOME protected lanes now
@MarioFanGamer659
2 жыл бұрын
That's why you put the bikes behind the parked cars - obviously with a buffer for doors. ;)
@lolasonne1772
Жыл бұрын
This and the fact that cars need to cross bike lanes to park and get back onto the street. Nobody would ever design a street in which cars need to cross a whole car lane to get into a parking space on the whole lentgh of the road. It's obviously a stupid design that is dangerous and holds up traffic.
@JABN97
Жыл бұрын
Don’t people check behind them / in the mirror before opening their car door? That’s weird
@TessHKM
Жыл бұрын
@@JABN97 of course they don't lmao
@GMPax
2 жыл бұрын
Sharrows < Taking the Lane < Painted bike lane (next to cars) < Painted bike lane (next to curb) < Separated Lane < Protected Lane (I call lanes "separated" if they only have a wide painted buffer and _plastic_ posts; it's not truly protected until there are barriers motor vehicles *cannot get through* ... e.g. steel bollards or concrete barriers.)
@Shifter_Cycling
2 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty much with you on this!
@MartinPeterTV
2 жыл бұрын
@@Shifter_Cycling I actually think taking the lane is better than painted bike lanes next to cars. Getting squeezed into a narrow corridor with no way to give clearance to avoid getting doored is not fun
@GMPax
2 жыл бұрын
@@MartinPeterTV Fair point, but I at least appreciate the extra space to my right that a lane like that gives me ... while taking the lane. :D :D
@tasomaniac
Жыл бұрын
There is one more option in Germany nowadays: Fahrradstraße. It means bicycle street. It's bicycle only + only for people living in an apartment in that street (parking only)
@shroomchild1780
2 жыл бұрын
As an American with almost no bike paths I just go on the side walk and yell at people.
@TukikoTroy
Жыл бұрын
And I push cyclists who do this into oncoming traffic... great fun.
@RichardsGaySon
Жыл бұрын
America moment😂
@RichardsGaySon
Жыл бұрын
@@TukikoTroy you realize cyclists only ride on the sidewalk because our cities refuse to make decent infrastructure?
@TukikoTroy
Жыл бұрын
@@RichardsGaySon I was making a joke. But regarding what you said. Why should cyclists get to endanger pedestrians because THEY have a beef with local government?
@RichardsGaySon
Жыл бұрын
@@TukikoTroy because the only alternative is riding in the road and risking your life in a lot of places. I would rather hit a pedestrian with my bike than get hit by a car
@viniciusmedeiros9822
2 жыл бұрын
loved the ending!
@MarijnRoorda
2 жыл бұрын
An entire country designed for people, 100 out of 10. Welcome to The Netherlands!
@danmanthe9335
2 жыл бұрын
Brag brag brag! Lucky! There's a dirt path that goes to the other side of my county...
@MarijnRoorda
2 жыл бұрын
@@carstarsarstenstesenn @Dan Manthe Its more of a sarcastic joke. Something the dutch are very proficient at. But when i drive my bicycle around, as its my only means of transportation besides walking and public transport, as i do not even own a car license, i take it all for granted, like most dutch people do. But when i see the video's of Shifter, of Not Just Bikes, and many other youtubers, i cannot help but feel pity for people abroad. What miserable lives you must lead when policymakers only care about car ownership. Thankfully, whilst my government sucks in many ways, when it comes to living conditions and getting to places in a comfortable manner without being forced to drive a car, we at least hold up the Gold standard. And you should definitely visit, and see for yourself. And you will agree with me, that pity is in order for countries like the US of A or Canada.
@Kevin15047
2 жыл бұрын
@@carstarsarstenstesenn Meh. The Dutch can brag all they want. At least when the Dutch brag, they can back it up. I hear people bragging about the US all the time and never with a legitimate reason to. It's usually some broad statement about how we have freedom here. And to hear them talk, you would think everywhere outside of our borders was North Korea or something. 😂
@carstarsarstenstesenn
2 жыл бұрын
@@Kevin15047 and from what I've seen, a lot of Dutch people don't even realize how nice they have it compared to the rest of the world 😂
@joel3683
Жыл бұрын
@@carstarsarstenstesenn I hope that's not part of why you don't want to go there as well cuz... yikes. Plus The Netherlands aren't the only people to do that yk, There are PLENTY of people from first world countries that do that. It's not like any one country can get away with that as there can be many ignorant people wherever you go. So that just sound likes bogus, dude.
@yokljo
Жыл бұрын
There's also two kinds of sharrows: Those at the side of the lane and those in the middle of the lane. I much prefer the ones in the middle because at least it doesn't imply that I should try to ride on the edge so cars can drive next to me in the same tiny lane.
@jaridkeen123
Жыл бұрын
I dont consider any painted bike lane a Bike Lane. If you wouldn't let a 5 year old ride there alone in the bike lane, then its not a bike lane. Its a Street for Cars
@rotary65
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the clear, short video! It's to the point and is an excellent summary. Very useful for cycling advocacy presentations by community groups!
@bertnewton9124
Жыл бұрын
I actually like the sharrows. They give me more confidence to own the lane if I have to.
@tonymouannes
Жыл бұрын
That's what's bad about them, they give you a false sense of security. Because you legal can, doesn't mean it's safe to do so. Also bikes can take a full lane anywhere that doesn't have a designated bike lane (except if bikes aren't allowed at all, like on highways). So the drawing is basically useless. The only advantage of it is that it reminds car drivers that there might be bicycles. I find them more useful in areas where there are a lot of bike lanes, allowing the drivers to know that this section doesn't have one.
@davidmarsh3104
Жыл бұрын
@@tonymouannes The amount of space bicycles can legally have varies by region: everything from an entire lane to 1 metre. That may have an impact on the utility of sharrows.
@loveizzy3945
Жыл бұрын
I love that I can immediately know exactly where the video for “painted bike lanes” was taken makes me happy tbh
@TheTrainStationinc
Жыл бұрын
My city had the brilliant idea of making a sharrow out of a parking lane. You ride down the parking lane until you encounter a parked car then you merge into traffic to go around it.
@JonGZBOS
Жыл бұрын
Painted cycle lanes are death traps in my city. People get killed because of car doors, people pulling into or out of a parking spot without looking. A lady recently got smacked with a car door, fell into opposing lane and got ran over and died. They are the 0/10 in my eyes.
@TeamWolfmountain
Жыл бұрын
The netherlands: we built an entire country for the bycicle
@janwensveen1406
Жыл бұрын
Actually, they designed the design code for streets to be for everyone, instead of just cars. Thereby giving people more freedom because they now have more choices for transport options. And as a side effect, there is more room for those that chose cars because the other 9 cars are replaced with bikes
@TeamWolfmountain
Жыл бұрын
@@janwensveen1406 i know? It was more meant as a funny
@Ihwaz13
Жыл бұрын
I rank painted on bike lanes lower than no bike lanes. Painted on bike lanes have been proven to lead to drivers giving less space to bicycles when passing than no markings at all.
@WokeSpokes
Жыл бұрын
Is that so? Could you share a link to evidence, id be to read. Cheers
@Ihwaz13
Жыл бұрын
@@WokeSpokes This is the title of the study: How much space do drivers provide when passing cyclists? Understanding the impact of motor vehicle and infrastructure characteristics on passing distance This is the DOI: 10.1016/j.aap.2019.03.007
@Lamefoureyes
Жыл бұрын
In my experience it's been young people that are usually the most distracted drivers and give me the most close calls, not so much parents with kids in the vehicle or even sports cars (although teslas love to run stale yellow lights for some reason)
@railroadforest30
Жыл бұрын
Suvs are the worst
@elmurcis1
Жыл бұрын
When I was actively cycling (pre-2020 - now happily living in countryside rarely meeting other people) I preffered just regular roads. Outside of peak hours (natural stress source for all involved) it was somewhat predictable (expect everybody to break rules and you will be fine) and enjoyable. Around my area roads might no best quality (third of cycling was done on gravel roads) but during night time specially (many times would go for ride from sunset to sunrise) - could cycle for 20-30 mins without any car interaction. Even on technically "major" roads.
@edwardallan197
5 ай бұрын
So well-put. All logic and concern for all of us. ❤
@ruudhollenberg
Жыл бұрын
I agree except for one: the two way protected bikelane let's you bike next to your friends. I prefer that one over the one way
@ajjms4715
Жыл бұрын
My city is expanding the sidewalks to like double the size (and sometimes even making 2 sidewalk lanes) so bikers and pedestrians can be off the road, and still have room to not hit eachother
@janAlekantuwa
Жыл бұрын
I live in Boston Massachusetts, and the city finally re-did the traffic pattern on one of the major bridges across the River Charles. The Mass Ave Bridge used to have four car lanes (two in each direction) with a narrow painted bicycle gutter on each side. That gutter was littered with storm drains and had a massive barrier between it and the sidewalk (making it impossible for cyclists to avoid a large vehicle drifting into the lane). When the road was re-surfaced, a new traffic pattern was established. They removed two of the car lanes and used that space to make wide buffered cycle lanes. There aren't any physical barriers preventing cars from drifting into the cycle lanes, but the paint buffer is wide enough to give some comfort. Yesterday, I noticed that traffic cones had been placed along the painted buffer, which I'm hoping is an indicator that protective concrete pillars will soon be installed. Much of Mass Ave in Boston and Cambridge already has protected cycle lanes (particularly in Cambridge), but said protection fizzles out as one travels south. I really hope the city continues to add protection for cyclists, and, given that we have a mayor who uses public transit as her primary mode of transportation, I have a good feeling that Boston will continue to be less car-centric
@disabilityadvoc8
Ай бұрын
Love this! As a pushrim wheelchair user I'm in the road a lot bcuz curb ramps in my city arent compliant. My city wants to put in bike lanes. I guess that puts me under(?) automobiles 😮
@benmagnus0858
21 күн бұрын
In my way to school, there is one road with bike lanes added on the side of the road, which are so slim that often the cars just have to drive over them to get a turn. It's really dangerous and stressful with all those fast cars overtaking you because they simply can't get enough distance from you. Luckily a big part of the route is a bike lane from a retired rail network. It really gets you where you need to be quickly.
@davidmarsh3104
Жыл бұрын
Good video editing. For my commute (~ 12km), here is my ranking: Painted 0/10 One Way Separated 3/10 Two Way Separated 4/10 Sharrow 5/10 None 6/10 Pathway 8/10
@KellyS_77
Жыл бұрын
This is an older short, but I've just moved to Milton Keynes (UK) which has an extensive network of multi-use paths that were specifically designed to keep pedestrians and cycle traffic separate from auto traffic. They are *wonderful*! They're often a faster more direct route than it would be to go out to the main road, then ride in the gutter with 50 mph cars speeding past. Certainly less stressful. They're a joy to walk or ride on.
@Atticellar
Жыл бұрын
There is ONE benefit to sharrows: cars see with signage that the road doesn't just belong to them and that they need to look out for bycicles (but they should be doing that anyway).
@daviddavidson6278
Жыл бұрын
It never seems to work. Even with a whole painted bike lane many cars just completely miss it.
@jakesaari7652
Жыл бұрын
This is our first winter with a new 2 way protected bike lane, and they are definitely not great (or rideable) this time of year. For the same space, it was easier to maintain and better quality for them to plow the road a little wider. Now they have to come back with smaller equipment to blow through the plowed material, so you get something which is more suitable for a snowmobile than a bicycle.
@stanwever3829
Жыл бұрын
In the Netherlands we also have double way cycle paths on both sides of a larger road. So you don't have to cross a big road to get to the cycling path.
@luuk777w
Жыл бұрын
These painted bike lanes are also VERY common in the Netherlands and they are better than you think. It is only on 2 lane 30km/h (19m/h) roads, and there are two versions. One with a striped line, and a solid line. The striped line is meant to be shared and the solid line is only for bikes. This creates roads where cars drive slowly and carefully and there is space for everyone.
@raithrover1976
10 ай бұрын
The multi-use pathways in Edinburgh utilise the old suburban railway network so they're actually good at getting you where you need to go and offer a good quality route away from motorised traffic. The downside is that they can be very busy with pedestrians and their dogs so it's a good idea to set off 10 minutes early as you'll probably have to meander along at jogging pace.
@thegreentimtam
Жыл бұрын
I think it absolutely depends on the case. However, I think painted bike lanes are never the solution. Sharrows are a great solution in low traffic areas, when combined with other traffic calming methods. In my city (Perth, Australia) we have started seeing "Safe Active Streets" and in my view they are fantastic. Protected bike lanes are obviously great for busy streets. Shared paths as well. In fact, here in Perth, we have a network of shared paths that follow the train lines and freeways - capitalising on the existing grade separation to provide excellent cycling infrastructure that goes where you want to go, while still being somewhat separated from traffic. But I fail to see any situation where a painted bike lane is actually the solution.
@superfly2449
Жыл бұрын
Our nearest multi-use lane is really for dog walkers and strollers and runners.
@josentv
Жыл бұрын
I actually prefer two way protected lanes, especially if they are on both sides of a street, so you can take the lane from anywhere without the need of crossing the street/road
@in551125do
Жыл бұрын
Cute...😊😊😊...good luck from Amsterdam..!!
@Kaiser-ks3yq
Жыл бұрын
I don't get why cyclists always say unprotected bike lanes are bad (other than right hooks, but you should be slowing down near junctions whether you're in a car or on a bicycle, not aiming for a new strava time at the risk of yourself and others), saying an unaware driver could drift into your lane and take you out, like they're probably going 35mph forwards, and you're going 20mph, I've been rear ended at 15mph on my bike, by another bike, and it would suck a lot more if it was a car, but I'd probably live. HOWEVER, on my way to college (25mi away) I use a 60mph road in my car, that's unprotected, and has cars coming towards you at 60, for a combined speed of 120mph in a collision, I'm being fucking pasted and scrubbed off the roads if that happens, but it's not a massive public safety concern to make all roads have dividers/protection, why do cycle lanes need protection? I get they're at "increased risk" but I have to deal with increased speed, and when I'm out on my bicycle I feel like I'm less likely to be in a head on than when I'm driving, and I feel I've got more room to get out the way when someone overtakes
@MonsieurRaki
Жыл бұрын
(Protected) bike lanes are needed for safety, to decrease accidents with cars.. I know in the US there's no other way to go than on these streets, but at such high speeds the street isn't very safe to ride on. That explains the amount of (lethal) accidents in the US for cyclists and pedestrians. In the Netherlands we have different speeds for cars, depending on the traffic. Through travel can drive faster than residential area's... 60mph or even faster sounds like a highway to me.. It might be a road, but it's getting used as a highway. We don't have bike lanes on highways and on high speed roads (30-50 mph) we have seperate bike lanes, which is much safer... On roads with less speed or less traffic we share the road or we might have suggested bike lanes on both edges of the street. We also have bicycle streets in residential area's, where cars are a guest.. So they have to drive slowly and give way to cyclists.
@DuncanAdkins
Жыл бұрын
Philadelphia is an interesting case study- the majority of the city is human-scaled with small roads, which means that drivers have to respect cyclists on most roads. But there are also semi-protected bike lanes (that people park in!!!🤬🤬🤬). It could use a lot of improvements, but it's dramatically better than like 95% of NA
@statelyelms
Жыл бұрын
My city is apparently slyly widening some painted bike lanes (least they can do). Honestly the width of the lanes matters so much more than I thought it would, I feel much more comfortable in the half-metre wider lane than the normal thinner ones, even though it's still just paint.
@MonsieurRaki
Жыл бұрын
Bike lanes should be wide for safety and it's also nice to ride next to eachother and talk. Widening the lanes also makes it possible for people with different speeds to ride their bike.. You have the wiggle room to pass someone who is slower and for slower people to just ride in their own tempo without feeling the pressure to ride faster!
@karljiks
Жыл бұрын
the road next to my house in a Dutch city that is not Amsterdam has a separated one-way bike lane. unfortunately, it's only on one side and it for some reason changes to two-way after a crossing. this means that people biking from the two-way have either a car crossing to cross and have to continue biking on a shaky brick road (dangerous and painful) or, mostly, they just continue past the no go sign and go the opposite way on the nice, safe, smooth one-way bike lane. it's great, it also sucks. because there's no distinctive line, because that's not what it was designed for, i sometimes try to go to work and almost run into someone almost foolishly expecting people NOT to bike right at me on a one-way lane.
@Gretri17
Жыл бұрын
One of those videos looked like it was in Madison, WI. I'd say it's the only city in America with actual bicycle infrastructure
@TheSevien
Жыл бұрын
Multiuse pathways are actually extremely nice if they actually get you to places, alot of the bicycle infrastructure around here is just dense gravel pathways that anyone but cars can use, motorcycles arent allowed but nobody cares most of the time, its the quickest routes across cities and its not like they are going down there at highway speeds
@lillybolduc
Жыл бұрын
Biking in Chicago, I second the 0/10 rating for sharrows. They usually don't get the right away at intersections, so you're forced to stop and pray not to get hit trying to cross.
@ACEsevaeron
Жыл бұрын
Everytime I see a vid about cycling infrastructure, or infrastructure in general, I realise how lucky I am to live in the Netherlands. Like even the bike lines in the most deserted parts of the country over here are better than most of the one's in the vid.
@ahuman9143
Жыл бұрын
3 boroughs in london got funding for bike lane stuff and all i can say is its good but they slowed down the main crosstown bus through one of the areas with cycle lanes because the cycle lanes took away part of the road and passes through the bus stop areas which isnt great but one thing ill say is that the netherlands is way too bike oriented as i wouldnt want to cycle home with a massive grocery shop because the car would be more stressful and annoying
@correcthoarsebatterystaple
Жыл бұрын
Multi use pathways - a place with pedestrians walking four abreast, dogs on 20 ft extension leashes, E-bikers going 40 km/h
@paxundpeace9970
Жыл бұрын
protect cycling highway in London -5 points because they are so narrow and far to bussy and they have very sharp turns and often end on the wrong side of the road
@SerienchiIIer
Жыл бұрын
I would have rated the painted bike lane much lower. As demonstrated in this video, they often go right through the dooring zone, putting every cyclist who actually uses them in serious danger. Dooring accidents are very common and regularly fatal (not kidding). Secondly, they actively encourage motorists to overtake at high speeds and with very little distance. In Germany, there's a law that you have to keep a distance of at least 1.5m (5ft) when overtaking a cyclist and 3 out of 4 motorists actually respect that rule in my experience. But as soon as there's a painted line inbetween, 4/4 motorists will blow right past you with zero regard for your safety, as if this painted line was some sort of magic shield. I always ride on the road when the bike lane looks like this.
@kalisederoche
Жыл бұрын
the last one :,) PLEASE
@joblessalex
Жыл бұрын
My favorite is using side streets. Almost 0 car traffic at all and you can perfectly parallel most main roads. Wish it was common to have a short courtesy honk that let's the bike know you want to pass and then you pass. that'd solve a bunch of issues if it was social norm.
@nurbsivonsirup1416
4 ай бұрын
They should use that paint for tanks. The ballistic properties must be phenomenal if it can protect you from the force of a 4 tonne vehicle.
@DuinbergenGames
Жыл бұрын
You forgot the bicycle highway (no cars allowed) which follows a fairly straight direct route between A and B and uses mostly tunnels and bridges to go over or under roads for cars. These are actually shorter than following the road for cars, and they make traveling by bike quicker in some cities compared to the car. These bicycle highways are often made to get people to stop using their cars for commuting, but use a bike instead. I live in The Netherlands btw.
@goldenking2046
Жыл бұрын
2-way protected lane: 8/10 NYC building 2-way protected lanes that end or switch sides in the middle of the road, leaving you stranded and facing oncoming traffic: "are you sure about that?"
@kodibates4362
Жыл бұрын
The hard part with designing these types of things for small cities in the US is the commerce part. Many businesses get their goods shipped in via truck and most people who work in those cities commute in via car. Mostly because the rest of the suburbs and rural areas where living is affordable are so spread out that a car is necessary. I think if we solve the goods in and out issue, and convenient public transport to the cities, it will be much more palatable to design cities around human movement rather than car/ truck.
@MonsieurRaki
Жыл бұрын
Cities should always make room for trucks to unload their goods, like a special parking spot where other cars can't park. Or some other solution that works best... Public transport is important, but also changing zoning laws, so the suburbs can have small shops in their neighbourhood. That way it's closeby and thus easily accessable by walking or biking and people won't need to use their car to take a long trip to a store for their basic needs like food.
@untaintedwheelchair
Жыл бұрын
We have painted bike lanes here, but ironically it has parked cars taking up half of the allocated 30cm width and randomly stops and starts.
@ljadf
Жыл бұрын
Perth has been boasting about its hundreds of kilometres of 'bike lanes' for years, but it includes painted bike lanes on highways. Only the brave and suicidal will use them.
@drdewott9154
Жыл бұрын
Just gonna ask, but... Bicycle priority streets with traffic calming. Better than roads, or just sharrows with glitter on em?
@DjSkillerTV
Жыл бұрын
"Designed for humans" I agree
@jg-qj7ts
Жыл бұрын
The worst sharrow I’ve seen was outside of my old college’s city, on a 2 lane rural highway signed for 55mph with a very narrow shoulder.
@deldarel
Жыл бұрын
I really like the two-way bicycle lanes. You often see two people cycling next to each other and with the extra lane you can pass them. It also gives leeway to cargo bikes. And lastly often cyclists don't cross the road twice in order to cycle 100m on the correct side of the road. Having two way bicycle paths on both sides of the road accommodates this. It's not to reward people who initially cycled on the wrong side, it's to help the people who suffered from others doing that. It's quite common in cities in the Netherlands to have two-way bicycle lanes on both sides, and it's also a relatively new development. 10 years ago you barely saw it outside of the busiest parts of a bike main net.
@empressmarowynn
Жыл бұрын
I've almost been hit by two different cars while walking on an unpaved bike/ped trail that went through the park. Despite signs at both ends saying no vehicle entry. The only way to stop cars from invading our spaces are physical barriers.
@mofynn
Жыл бұрын
You missed Bike Highways (kinda like multiuse paths but meant to be able to get somewhere) its done in some german Cities that wanna invest in bike infrastructure. As it the most agressive measure without interrupting car infrastructure 😮💨. They are still great though. Kiel has one for Student riding their bikes to Uni. Makes that travel so much faster and safer!
@jaybobd
Жыл бұрын
don't forget about potentially getting doored in the painted bike lane.
@smblox2054
Жыл бұрын
What road was the sharrowed bike lane in? I know its in Victoria but idk what road
@nimrod06
8 ай бұрын
Multi-use bike paths are great. Minneapolis has many of those that people commute on. They are the safest and the most pleasant lanes to ride. Also, building them does not face the same political friction as bike lanes do, because they are "for recreational purposes" and does not take away space for cars. I think they are the best first step to transform car-dependent cities into a more bikeable environment.
@Koningwillem123
Жыл бұрын
I bike to school every day with 1-way protected bike lan with a 5 meter grass patch between the road and the bike lane. Where do i live?
@kickinacoustic6119
Жыл бұрын
Where I live I prefer sharrows to painted bike lanes. The painted lanes are never cleaned and you have to dodge debris from broken glass to dead animals on them and the speed limits are 45-55MPH (75-90KPH). The sharrows are at lower speed limits and give room do dodge debris.
@yourLocalSentientThing
Жыл бұрын
Imagine how crazy it would be if a town had a bike motorway
@taxevader4095
Жыл бұрын
amsterdam has this in the main bike network, ussually built along abandoned railways or canals so they have no conflicts and it is free flowing
@MJ_M
Жыл бұрын
Ngl I always thought sharrows just meant something along the lines of "arrows to facilitate sharing the road"
@SyLens1
Жыл бұрын
Double laned bike paths > single one way paths. Having a wider path makes overtaking easier. Only downside is that drivers who do watch for cyclists often dont look at the other direction because they’re used to cyclist being on 1 side
@Basta11
3 ай бұрын
Looks to me like we should have more linear parks that are recreational parks but also car less travel lanes. Imagine your home, office, shops, and restaurants, being connected by one.
@evanclark2532
Жыл бұрын
There’s a road in my city with protected pedestrian sidewalks and then a bike lane just over the barrier on the road side. Like you were so close, just move the barrier 3 feet.
@hejiranyc
Жыл бұрын
There's no point in having bike lanes in NYC. They are poorly maintained, are full of potholes/manhole covers, clogged by CITIbike riders going 2 mph, food delivery drivers on illegally modified e-bikes, and pedestrians use them as an extension of the sidewalk. Ninety percent of the time I just ride with car traffic because it's safer.
@David-zx4rt
Жыл бұрын
Especially in the snow, bike infrastructure that is on the road gets totally blown to the wayside as it fills with snow, debris, and parked cars.
@davidmarsh3104
Жыл бұрын
In snow, at least in the Waterloo Region, separated lanes awful. They seldom get cleared and are filled with potholes even in summer. They have made things worse for me, not better.
@wturner777
Жыл бұрын
It's no question that The Netherlands has world-class bike infrastructure. North America needs to takes some notes.
@Triss_Joy
Жыл бұрын
As long as you follow traffic laws like you’re supposed to, any of these options is fine by me. Trouble is, it’s only about 1/5 bicyclists who actually DO that. I’ve lost count the number of times I’ve had to slam on my brakes for a bike running straight through a red light or riding across IN the crosswalk. Share the road goes both ways, and anyone who follows the traffic laws I give a WIDE berth to, for their safety, bc that’s how it should be!
@Mrwizard-ck7oe
2 ай бұрын
My favorite is the shoulder/ turning lane "bike lane" that has a sign and goes nowhere. Texas classic
@Mrwizard-ck7oe
2 ай бұрын
Oh and don't forget it shares the spacw with a 45mph stroad with hundreds of buisness entrances and exits for you to get side swiped from unattentive drivers
@caffeinated_25
Жыл бұрын
Nearby I have a protected bike lane but it’s half road, half sewer drain so there’s 2 different heights and it feels like I’m bicycling on a tight rope. I have a bakfiet so I can’t ride closer to the protective poles and I’m just stuck in the middle trying not to fall into the sewer.
@Dariomaestas
Жыл бұрын
Dutch bike lanes: 10/10
@heated817
Жыл бұрын
Painted bike lanes are my favorite
@daanbusch6255
Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the Netherlands. There are no non-painted bike lanes here.
@kirbfruit
Жыл бұрын
I got the best in my town. It is just a sign that says watchout for bikes.
@Lemonz1989
Жыл бұрын
As someone who has been hit by a car while riding a bike I say it’s 0/10, because that hurt a lot. Broke my left knee and right wrist, and then I got yelled at by an ambulance man for not wearing a helmet. I still have issues with my knee and it happened way back in 2021.
@alandecowski5945
Жыл бұрын
No cars? Emergency services has left the chat
@MonsieurRaki
Жыл бұрын
With less cars on the road, emergency services have a lot more room to drive as fast as possible, which can save lives! In my country (the Netherlands) we sometimes have seperate bus-lanes, so busses don't get stuck in traffic and emergency services can also use those lanes. Having some bike lanes doesn't mean that nobody is going to drive, just that people have the option to not always have to drive. In the Netherlands a lot of people also have cars and we have a wide network of roads and highways for motor vehicles.
@Rufus_Pufus
Жыл бұрын
You forgot the side of county roads. Semis suck when they are pacing you or buzzing you. Balls of steel out of ten.
@PaulRudd1941
Жыл бұрын
Longboarding is straight up dangerous in my city, as long as the traffic isn't coming, I skate. The only other question is would I be able to pack around my hundreds of tools to different jobsites without a horse or a motor vehicle?
@asddd.
Жыл бұрын
There are still car lanes
@zerkboy7097
Жыл бұрын
Use a sensible fuel efficient pickup or a van (vans are in the top ten of ways to get shit carried in cities)
@mhordijk0871
Жыл бұрын
Like Amsterdam, Utrecht. Anywere in the Netherlands 😅 And no Chevy Suburban in sight 😂
@RailBuffRob
Жыл бұрын
In the USA, any time there is a path dedicated to bikes it will be full of pedestrians who scream at anyone on a bike.
@ghz24
Жыл бұрын
Not where I am.
@paulgush
Жыл бұрын
Multiuse pathway in an urban environment next to a road is hazardous to cyclists at cross streets and driveways. It's nothing but a bike sidewalk, where motorists don't expect things to be moving g at 15 to 20 mph, especially in the direction against traffic
@MonsieurRaki
Жыл бұрын
Multi use pathways are much better than a bike lane on a busy road.. "they don't get you anywhere" is unfortunate. If cities build these pathways with destinations in mind or connections to other roads with bike lanes, then they would be very useful and safe for everyone to use: kids, adults, elderly, disabled people etc...
@jellybeansi
2 жыл бұрын
Agree with pretty much all of this. Also, lol @ 0:20.
@wturner777
Жыл бұрын
What's worse than a sharrow? A sharrow on a busy six-lane stroad. Now that's dangerous.
@catman64k
Жыл бұрын
how would you you rate a combined bike / buslane, where regular cars are banned.
@heated817
Жыл бұрын
worst one is parking protected bike lanes. I call them car loading bays or sidewalk v2.0
@thomaslangemaire9513
Жыл бұрын
We also have lots of sharrows in the Netherlands
@natbarmore
2 жыл бұрын
Curb painted bike lanes are worse than sharrows or nothing, because they end up full of dangerous debris. Painted bike lanes next to parked cars are worse than sharrows or nothing, because of car doors. So I’d rank the non-separated options as: Curb bike lane < bike lane next to parking < sharrows or nothing (same in my mind) < painted bike lane that does not adjoin parking, is not next to the curb, and doesn’t set up right hooks. It’s the rare painted bike lane I’ve encountered that is better than nothing. The west-bound bike lane on University Avenue in Madison, WI, between N Bassett and Babcock Dr is the only one I can think of off the top of my head.
@moodycxnt
2 жыл бұрын
I agree, to an extent. just got a flat from going over debris two days ago. but being on a 'sharrow' road I still keep to the side of the road because drivers are ignorant or rude anyway and it doesn't feel particularly safe.
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