best EDH channel on youtube hands down. big ups cam and dylan. also random shoutout to Dylan for supporting hardcore bands and whatnot by wearing merch in videos!
@jacob510
5 ай бұрын
Mox amber also just keeps getting better as we get more Legends that are good in the 99, Ragavan, Lotho, etc.
@moshjoshpitchief4418
5 ай бұрын
100% also with more things like kitten/tyrant combo's. chrome mox, mox opal, and mox amber have a bit higher side value than a diamond for this reason and definitely upped amber's play in the meta.
@yolomcswagmuffins6574
5 ай бұрын
I think Mox helps in Stella for the fact that it is a 0 mana rock that can add to her ability (three or more spells) and give mana with now downside (exile or discard a card)
@Djm939
5 ай бұрын
Especially as wizards seems to like printing low costed legends lately, tinybones for example
@TheLimedew
4 ай бұрын
All W comments 🙌🏼
@GoudaOnRye
5 ай бұрын
I think another reason people are playing Mox Amber in Stella Lee is because it’s a free spell to help get to your spell count for her ability.
@notimeleft1
5 ай бұрын
that is very true.
@kaimetzner821
5 ай бұрын
Great List, I would also include Basalth Monolith and Senseis Diving Top
@florianwerk4505
5 ай бұрын
Also void winnover
@thoroughlyrinsed3532
5 ай бұрын
@florianwerk4505 it'd be weird to rank it only really is played in kinnan
@florianwerk4505
5 ай бұрын
@@thoroughlyrinsed3532 ok and? Still a 2 to 3
@franslair2199
3 ай бұрын
@@thoroughlyrinsed3532also yennett and sakashima
@adrianmelo7768
5 ай бұрын
I never thought I'd see a Play to Win break up because of Wandering Archaic
@Djm939
5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@colinstaub455
5 ай бұрын
Every Friday and Sunday has become the most looked forward to of the week! Great vid as always. Surprised Walking Ballista didn’t show up or the soul cauldron.
@timkoHRMNY
5 ай бұрын
Karn gets the one ring back from exile 👀
@timtehwizard7898
5 ай бұрын
How often is that the target of exile removal?
@zweis
5 ай бұрын
@@timtehwizard7898 As often as it gets removed cause no one is destroying it 😂
@timkoHRMNY
5 ай бұрын
Look I’m not saying it’s THAT relevant, but it’s something 😂
@jasonlevesque6340
5 ай бұрын
When your commander wants to cast 3 spells, getting your first spell for free and having it make mana is really good.
@RedPandaStan
5 ай бұрын
tbh your discussion on karn makes me want to see what cedh would look like if wish effects were legal. itd be very interesting.
@Dubhats
5 ай бұрын
The only decks I've seen not running Mana Crypt have been some budget Yuriko lists, and some normal Yuriko lists.
@Dubhats
5 ай бұрын
Also sad to see no Chalice of the Void cause that card is awesome
@franslair2199
5 ай бұрын
Yuriko doesn't even run sol ring much of the time
@Rinin.
5 ай бұрын
My Yuriko list actively cut crypt.
@sosukelele
4 күн бұрын
@@Rinin.ahead of the curve
@elicohen1110
Ай бұрын
As a kinnan player some of these rankings drove me crazy lol. And no soul cauldron, winnower, or basalt monolith? Love the content tho, keep it up!
@jeremy45672
5 ай бұрын
Sticker goblin can’t go infinite unfortunately
@Jaydomagic
5 ай бұрын
O melhor conteúdo de cEDH do KZitem! Parabéns! Abraços do 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
@HBeaulieu28746
5 ай бұрын
One thing about the legendary artifacts that didn't get mentioned is that in some niche scenarios with mount doom.
@jameshaberling1947
5 ай бұрын
I was going to comment this!
@samarbrander981
5 ай бұрын
It also isnt nothing that they just trigger some cards like say rona herald of invasion and can even be a combo with her and retraction helix.
@theg3843
5 ай бұрын
FINALLY COLORLESSS - KOZILEK PLAYERS REJOIN!
@WeasyMTG
4 ай бұрын
I got a tourney coming up so I wanna get as much win cons in my colorless deck as possible
@samuelbeall439
5 ай бұрын
"Who'd a thunk it!" LOL, great stuff, All perfect lists so far, absolutely no mistakes, even the ones you doubted on, those assessments were correct, why anyone would watch any other playable card rating videos for cEDH is beyond me! 🤣 Keep up the great content guys!
@Ruebinok
5 ай бұрын
Dylan's mic has some strange frequency or feedback/interference, its like a high pitch buzz. Otherwise great as always.
@coolanthony7880
4 ай бұрын
I play dihada so its nice being able to put mox opal into my hand with her -3 and then make 3 treasures that turns it on (love your guys content!)
@stormtrooperjeepjk
5 ай бұрын
You can almost say a lotus petal is a time walk lol #iykyk lol
@mitsosoftheelves
5 ай бұрын
"Food Chain decks are not always great" but... but... Food Chain wins games... 🥺
@moshjoshpitchief4418
5 ай бұрын
mox amber has become better due to 2 things, in my opinion. #1 displacer kitten/tyrant loops, just upping pieces that can combo with a sol ring or mana crypt has gotten much better i'd also add that chrome mox is better than diamond now because of kitten/tyrant. and #2 cheap relevant legendary creatures being packed into main decks, ragavan, lotho, kutzil, etc.(or even not so cheap, talion's) turn this on much more commonly then in the past.
@cakgrim
5 ай бұрын
Great Video! I have been watching your videos for years now. I actually made my Blood Pod deck because of Dylans! I would love to see an updated video where Dylan talks about it in the current meta!
@B1gLupu
5 ай бұрын
You forgot that it's possible to use LED to cast your Commander. That's a line seen pretty often with Narset, Englightened Master and same can be done in a pinch to cast Kraum. Don't you play that in Etali or did you just forgot?
@frago321
5 ай бұрын
26:17 It feels like cheating talking about all those staple mana rocks for half the chapter
@michaelristau4041
5 ай бұрын
I play Wondering Archaic in Niv-Mizzet and I think its wild. I am normally slowing the game down the best I can and this just helps stop everyone and helps you get to and protect your one card wincons.
@Javaisd3ad
5 ай бұрын
I love the enthusiasm you guys brought about Fellwar Stone 😂
@savior117
5 ай бұрын
Mox opal being legendary totally matters.... if you're playing Mt doom
@kkhello823
5 ай бұрын
As a colorless main finally the podcast I’ve been waiting for
@timothygerbig875
5 ай бұрын
Is Conqueror's Flail playable in Sisay, because it also ups Sisay's power for her activations?
@B1gLupu
5 ай бұрын
It's a bit expensive for the effect, but yeah you run it.
@WrekCreationL
5 ай бұрын
conqueror's flail is so much better than you give it credit, but that's ok I want my opponents to sleep on it
@MrScottyBaker
5 ай бұрын
It’s gas in my Urza deck. Tap itself to help equip 🤑
@skullkrusher-dx4kg
5 ай бұрын
Paradise mantle produces 2 mana in urza which i think is worth mentioning.
@Temzilla2
5 ай бұрын
39:47 there is 1 sticker sheet with 6 (Delusionary), 2 with 5, 6 with 4, and a large number with 3, so in a random draw, you have a 70.833~% chance of hitting a 5 or a 6 with sticker goblin in your 3 sticker sheets you start the game with. You will 100% get 4 mana for 3 mana from it at a bare minimum.
@KalleDemoss
5 ай бұрын
So do people usually just gentleman for 4 every time? I feel like that would be a good compromise to not have to own/find all those specific sticker sheets.
@Temzilla2
5 ай бұрын
@@KalleDemoss There are probably apps for it, you take your 10 stickers, and roll 3 randoms at the beginning of the game. The card functions completely differently on modo so it's a bit lucky that it's not super ubiquitous in cedh I guess. Also just paper proxies work as they are just tokens and you don't actually have to own the sticker sheets or apply the stickers.
@salchi-papa
5 ай бұрын
@@KalleDemoss You get to choose 10 for your "sticker deck" but pre-game requires you to choose 3 random ones to actually use in the game. Regardless though, you'll always net positive the first time you cast it.
@InmAncalagon
5 ай бұрын
With Minamo seeing more play, Mox Amber and Opal being legendary can sometimes be relevant because you can use Minamo to untap an opponent's Mox to help them pay for interaction
@karwas
5 ай бұрын
@40:03 bros, the goblin does not go infinite, you only get mana as many times, as many stickers you have available, which is 9 per game.
@aklepatzky
5 ай бұрын
9 ~ infinite. If youre not winning w 9 mana, ure doing sth wrong
@ary31415
5 ай бұрын
@@aklepatzky That's just not true.. like yes it makes a lot of mana, but not going infinite means it *doesn't go infinite*, and so can't be used as a mana source for other infinite combos that require a mana input
@aklepatzky
5 ай бұрын
@@ary31415 zzzz
@LivinTheLifeOfRiley
5 ай бұрын
@35:05 i actually 100% agree with Cam's evaluation there I also for some reason picked up some odd body language from Dylan there too, good on Cam for just checkin with his homie
@notimeleft1
5 ай бұрын
Honestly, I run all but amber in Korvold. Even if vault, jeweled and opal are dead on the board after Korvold hits, that’s fine. They are still value for me for Korvold’s power and draw ability. I don’t run amber in Stella Lee, same with opal because I got cards like Storm-Kiln Artist and Birgi, God of Storytelling for the extra mana, so they aren’t really irrelevant. Yes they both help the spell count nicely, but the way I have Stella built is a little different. It is more midrange control because of all the interaction and it focused more toward card advantage with a few untap effects like Minamo and Furnace Reins. I play test it everyday and after today’s run, tried new combos like copying Jeska’s Will for the extra mana and card advantage to get my magecraft creatures off more. Honestly, why Stella decks don’t run Storm-Kiln Artist and Archmage Emeritus is a crime in my opinion because of the advantage they grant. I know they are both four mana and Stella wants to run no more than a few 4 mana cards like The One Ring but the card advantage my built grants speaks for itself. Running Karn, the Great Creator is more good in decks like Urza, Jhoira, Magda, and in my opinion Daretti, Scrap Savant for the stax power.
@ary31415
5 ай бұрын
Regarding Sticker Goblin and Cloudstone Curio: You can't actually go infinite unfortunately - you can only have 3 sticker sheets per game, and so after 9 ETBs you won't have any name stickers left to apply to the goblin, and it will stop generating mana (and even before you hit that point, you'll be left with only stickers that make less than 4 mana). This is a hard limit with no way to circumvent it currently under the rules.
@kelm102
5 ай бұрын
I think I saw Coval playing some Displacer Kitten list in Legacy that looped LED and Tormod's Crypt with Karn, since you can leep getting the LED out of exile. Other than the one-sidedness of it being a Null Rod for everyone else, and that corner case, it's probably not that great.
@only1sn1not1taken
5 ай бұрын
I actually hate Mox Diamond. I'm usually around 25-26 lands with a commander that doesn't draw. I usually don't have extra lands in hand and if I draw one, I'd rather just play it. I only really like it post adnaus since it's usually just a dead card otherwise.
@magusofthebargain
4 ай бұрын
The only rating I would definitely change is that you should give artifacts that produce blue mana an extra 0.01 rating and lower the Fellwar Stone rating to 4.25
@pokedadsam9041
4 ай бұрын
5:30 I don’t know. Chrome mox is a sacrifice target for bargain at all times. Mox diamonds discard is better than chrome mox’s exile but the free artifact is relevant with opal frequently.
@Blacksunstoneful
5 ай бұрын
It's Karn's -2 which makes him broken and you can't use that in commander; the ability to tutor from sideboards silver bullets or lock pieces is why its banned in pioneer, limited to one copy in vintage, and is a staple in big mana decks in both modern and legacy
@JonahStarenchak
5 ай бұрын
By the way the legendary on mox opal and mox amber is very good because of rona. It goes infinite with retraction helix. Thats my deck that I play in cEDH so I love it.
@jaderichardson6461
5 ай бұрын
I feel like with mana vault if you have at least one reason to play it then it should be in the deck so id say just under a 5 sounds right. I think 4.8 though as it can cut it very close sometimes. I play it in Sisay which I’ve noticed some people don’t anymore but for me the generic 2 mana in Sisay is enough when it can also get the one ring, rhystic study or tithe out early and there are times you’re going to untap it with Derevi
@lukemalina2091
5 ай бұрын
I want to see you guys all play a different 5 color commander, put the 10 best cards from each color into the decks, and fill the last 39 as you see fit. Would make an interesting match.
@xxthevampirate
5 ай бұрын
I've had to call a judge over name sticker goblin going infinite because i dont know if the stickers cross unknown zones and there are a limited number of name stickers you can put on it. I'm not sure I or the judge was right. I know it does weird things on modo because stickers are weird and i think that it translates into paper... I actually want this entire mechanic banned from commander like ante.
@arkenexus_
5 ай бұрын
Explore the vastlands [3] Sorcery Each player looks at the top 5 cards of their library, reveals a land card and/or an instant or sorcery card, then puts the cards revealed this way into their hand and the rest on the bottom of their library in a random order. Each player gains 3 life
@Mad_Goblin_Engineer
9 күн бұрын
Sticker goblin for the most part makes 4 mana. There’s only 2 stickers that make more than 4
@timtehwizard7898
5 ай бұрын
Commenting on PlayToWin content until you brew a ShiftLash Heliod the Warped Eclipse List
@D3V1L4NC3
5 ай бұрын
Chrome mox above sol ring because they both allow you to go plus 1 mana and require another card to generate the mana. Sol ring requires you to have 1 card to make a coloress cast and chrome mox requires a colored card in hand. Chromed mox make colored mana versus coloress therefore is better than sol ring.
@Zap2x_93
5 ай бұрын
Not super relevant, but if you're on rakdos colors and you play mount doom, that can be used as a sacrifice target to blow up the table (as well as the one ring, ofc).
@psytpd
4 ай бұрын
in turbo decks springleaf drum is better than any 2 cmc rocks. as long as deck has more creatures at low cmc. format is definitely more creature heavy than it was a couple years ago. great list as always!
@Degenerate8
5 ай бұрын
To add to what you said about Karn, the -2 is a way for Godo to get Helm out of exile, is it a good strategy? No, but it does mean that the -2 has some use in a very fringe deck
@cax1175
5 ай бұрын
I won a game of cedh a few weeks ago with my Kozilek the Great Distortion deck. Trinisphere turn 1 was nice.
@element7167
5 ай бұрын
there is a new 1 mana colorless instant that gives a creature protection from all colors and has overload for 4 and a colorless. with the amount of cards that people play that produce colorless, what is your hot take on this card?
@ComstarAgent
5 ай бұрын
Sisay sometimes plays birthing pod too
@Hordrasea
5 ай бұрын
I thought Dylan would look hos collection again ! Talk about KCI and Isochron Scepter
@iPhoneeditor
5 ай бұрын
When cards like Isochron scepter and staff of domination don't make the list, you know these cards are busted haha
@imnot13utubeidiots
5 ай бұрын
Stella Lee cares about the amount of cards you’ve cast in a turn, so mix amber can help you go off.
@bigschaeff1
5 ай бұрын
Surprised you guys didn’t talk about null rod, which is probably a 2.0
@Logic-cg7qy
5 ай бұрын
Agree with Cam on Sticker Goblin. Don't want to deal with that stupidity
@rickyurgo3880
5 ай бұрын
Mox Opal also sacs to Mount Doom :) as the meta has moved toward creatures mattering, mount doom gets stronger
@galarosr248
5 ай бұрын
The visuals at the end confused me lol it was panning Highest to lowest and Cam was listing them lowest to highest xD
@tylerduncanson2661
5 ай бұрын
Podcast idea: ranking the best targets for mental misstep
@xxthevampirate
5 ай бұрын
I want an arcane talisman that costs one makes (C) and deals one damage to you. just for the irony.
@brendans1983
5 ай бұрын
I feel like this list subtley reminds all us Rakdos players why we never win games 😂
@SavageHunter_77
5 ай бұрын
Sisay could grab Mox Opal, but if you are doing that you are in a bad spot lol
@alecpollard8981
4 ай бұрын
Kinnan and roxar could also run jeweled lotus as a commander lotus petal or on commander tax
@alecsims6401
5 ай бұрын
very very very disappointing to realize that we are out of colors for these videos
@Pumapeach
5 ай бұрын
Ignore lands, life, and legacy and you get your impression.
@calebwilliams8822
4 ай бұрын
What about Scroll Rack? Specifically for after a Naus or Peer
@carlospadilla7247
3 ай бұрын
I cant count how mant times ive had to keep a hand with mox diamond with no land to pitch to it
@Funder1Nk
5 ай бұрын
I played conquerers flail in godo when I had that built
@dancingmathusalem5451
5 ай бұрын
Basalt Monolith and senseitop feel like semi relevant cards that got missed
@skullkrusher-dx4kg
5 ай бұрын
Arent all 0 mana spells good in stella lee? You have to cast 3 spells to win.
@mattabrams3841
5 ай бұрын
K'rrik is a big fan of Jeweled Lotus I'd say
@ThePenitentSquirrel
5 ай бұрын
40:00 It's 4-6 Red Mana everytime. But, you also know ahead of time exactly how many it is at the beginning of the game (because you select the three sticker cards at random from a 10 card pile as a pregame action then use the one with the highest vowels)
@ary31415
5 ай бұрын
But also, because of the way stickers work, you can't actually go infinite with it - since you can only have 3 sticker sheets, you run out of stickers pretty quick
@skullkrusher-dx4kg
5 ай бұрын
Is oswald really good because of the one ring?
@alecpollard8981
4 ай бұрын
Mox opal has a litttle bit of synergy with Sissay
@whitecat8313
5 ай бұрын
I find it funny that they suggest jeweled lotus is best reserved for higher-cost commanders. Meanwhile, here I am, using it with my Light-Paws, Emperor's Voice, a mere two-cost commander. This is because dropping her on turn 1 packs a punch. Typically, I'd align with their perspective, though. Admittedly, my deck isn't quite CEDH-level.
@josephdillard2648
5 ай бұрын
they totally forgot chalice of the void smh…
@ethanm2592
5 ай бұрын
I don’t know why, but while watching this I came to a conclusion. I prefer higher power pods purely because it’s easier to read an opponents board and threat assess. In a lower power/more casual game, I have a harder time with threat assessment.
@TonyScimeca
5 ай бұрын
If we argue that cards like swat and fierce guardianship are auto included regardless of your commanders MV, then Mox opal should be equally as staple-ish
@dgreenlonghorn1
5 ай бұрын
Yall sleeping on cloudstone curio in any thrasios/x deck. Barrin master wizard + dockside requires 6 treasures to go infinite (which is a surprisingly high amount in a lot of early turns). Whereas curio enables your dockside to go infinite w/ thrasios if you make 5 treasures. That 1 treasure difference doesn’t seem like a lot, but there are a TON of situations where that one additional treasure is the difference between winning on your turn vs having to pass. Additionally, curio can help turn on your metal craft cards.
@Bafflementation
5 ай бұрын
The second ability on Karn is actually the one that usually decides whether he gets played or not, since he's mainly put in decks that have an artifact as a key combat piece so they can retrieve it from exile. Stuff like Magda with Clock of Omens, Tivit with Time Sieve, etc.
@Clock83131
5 ай бұрын
I play Lion's Eye Diamond in my Bomberman Breya. Combo's with Auriok Salvagers and Breya for infinite mana/Breya damage.
@matticus_p626
5 ай бұрын
46:00 I love grinding Station in Ob nixilis. Eventually I'll mill both soul cauldron & ballista. Then I can win even if I only have enough cards in GY to escape 1 thing at a time
@biggreenking
5 ай бұрын
16:24 Dylan just described edhrec
@CHoustonify
5 ай бұрын
Me on my Pepe Sylvia board noticing all the times they've referenced goes both ways without the other one giggling, being convinced it's an elaborate bet they have about their ability to slip it into every episode I see y'all y'all can't sneak it past me (it's bananas that artifacts are so good and CEDH is so high powered that LED isn't a 5)
@robertomacetti7069
5 ай бұрын
Ranking the best mana rocks in cedh
@thenatural6792
5 ай бұрын
Mount doom can sac the opal or one ring
@ericbenevides5739
5 ай бұрын
Whenever someone comments “Why play Rograkh as your partner commander instead of…..” I’m just going to post the link to this video
@shamuscrawford
2 ай бұрын
We need this for utility lands
@iclimbeverything2990
5 ай бұрын
Best lands in cEDH?? please 🥺
@lucaslopera8983
5 ай бұрын
first time watching on youtube instead of listening on spotify. really love the graphics at the bottom! helps us keep track of how everything is rated relative to other cards
@Temzilla2
5 ай бұрын
9:35 not cedh, but Jodah can always cascade into opal (same as mox amber), Lara can get it back (lara + kci stuff) etc.
@TeaHauss
5 ай бұрын
Honestly, if I had a full tier list of all of these cards, I'm sure we can determine if someone's casual deck is a 7 /j
@native_vaper9945
5 ай бұрын
What about Trinisphere
@turbo_vieja
5 ай бұрын
guuuuys, you forgot to talk about HAYWIRE MITE... easy 5/5
@baamxxv63
5 ай бұрын
The one ring is that card that despite doing nothing in my tayam deck often i wish i was running in it due how powerful it is
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