I absolutely agree the new Urabrask is underwhelming. Should have been 4 mana imo. But I still think it's fantastic and I really enjoy my casual Urabrask commander deck.
@eddie1993
Жыл бұрын
4 mana would be a big, much needed buff
@sineadgaming69
Жыл бұрын
The new urabrask can be brutal with the right combo. Urabrask + Drannith Magistrate is one of my favorite control combos in mtg.
@nikolamatasin3877
Жыл бұрын
I just can't agree with new Sheoldred, it's just too good at punishing, and you can easily finish people off with wheel effects, additionally... Elesh Norn, I love her, but she's way too expensive, she's great for cleaning up small stuff/removing chump blockers, but for 7 mana... she just doesn't do enough. And the moment you play her, you're arch enemy most likely, and you need wide board when she does hit the board, so that you can actually hope to win. As far as impact goes... I've once had to use her as boardwipe for Scute Swarm... and in most recent game I've cast her I've had to follow up with Triumph of the Hordes to be able to get through and win, other than that... each time she might've only bought me a turn cycle or two of safety. I mean... sure for White it's strong, but if you have access to Green, you have bunch of Overrun effects, both as Sorceries and on Creatures, which are far better, some of them are even cheaper. Then there's KHM Vorinclex... you untap with him, cast a Planeswalker and probably win the game...
@samb123078
Жыл бұрын
While I agree the red praetors are weaker, I use them way more often than the others. Both have very reasonable casting costs and don’t draw too much hate. Heretic praetor is so easy to lock people out with drannith. The Hidden goes great with combat since it makes them basically not have blockers for a turn which is often enough to kill them, especially if you have haste.
@SHADOWCLOUDGAMING
Жыл бұрын
Sanguine Praetor is actually pretty cool anti token creature tech.
@dowgthepug8433
Жыл бұрын
idk if i agree with saying new sheoldred cant just be thrown in any deck since In my opinion i think it can. Its just a free tax and a little life gain since people will draw cards any time since thats a staple part of the game. Overall though its a good video
@tkalle1299
Жыл бұрын
I think you undervalued new Sheoldred. The amount of decks running it show how it can be thrown in anywhere
@astuteanansi4935
Жыл бұрын
There are practically no decks that don't want to be drawing cards. It's one of the most integral parts of Commander. If you're not drawing cards, you're almost certainly losing the game. Turning this into a liability for your opponent while healing yourself is monstrously powerful. Sure, she doesn't immediately impact the board, she doesn't do a mini board wipe like Norn or completely cripple opponents like Jin, but there's pretty much not a single black Commander deck in existence that doesn't want a copy
@brianmcevoy1990
Жыл бұрын
Really dislike how cheap the mana cost of the new sheoldred and elesh norn are. Wotc needs stupid chase cards though
@dividendjohnson4327
Жыл бұрын
Awesome list. I'd proly have swapped Progress Tyrant above Core Augur simply because of how much cheaper it is to play and how it slows enemy turns, but I also really value duplicating my stuff in games a ton so I'm def biased.
@kurodashin
Жыл бұрын
i agree with the list for the most part i would maybe switch Gix and new Jin-gitaxes around at least if commander is what we are going off of. Gix can be an amazing commander but does really well if the new Sheoldred is in the deck, also the down side of his second ability can be mitigated somewhat with bone miser and containment construct.
@tabiasgrafton9590
Жыл бұрын
I would argue that old Urabrask and old Sheoldred should switch spots
@tabiasgrafton9590
Жыл бұрын
Still loved the video
@thetruth4654
Жыл бұрын
The original Elesh Norn is the only praetor too see Legacy play, so the original Elesh Norn is the best simply because of this. and the new Jin Gitaxias is better then both the original Jin Gitaxias, and New and Old Vorinclex. just cast an extra turn spell with the newest Jin Gitaxias and you`ll get two additional turns.
@clrl936
Жыл бұрын
I think the OG vorinclex is so overrated. You can float mana before he hits the field and kill him without being affected by his ability. Both OG Norn and Jin are much more devastating when they hit the field
@madcashewnutjob3345
Жыл бұрын
Urabrask, heretic praetor always just read as draw an extra card. Not bad, but unless you play on impulse draw he’s not doing much.
@Rekizence
Жыл бұрын
In commander I agree with little sheoldred's placement, but I think in 60 card it's the strongest praetor by far
@noejaun2540
Жыл бұрын
I remember time walking my opponents turn after turn in a planechase Edh game with Voice of Hunger as my commander because my opponents couldn't do anything to stop me but I also couldn't find any wincons. I lost track of how many rounds passed in stalemate.
@prizzl2395
Жыл бұрын
Tbh the elesh norn gets completly ruined by a clone kinda card just target her and you are completly screwed
@ironman2818
Жыл бұрын
A video every day day 3 and it already feels like you're sacrificing quality for quantity. Not a great video
@mikecowan4326
Жыл бұрын
Very cool video. Praetors always my favorite. Great targets for Mimeoplasm when I played it back in the day.
@Deviltrigger44
Жыл бұрын
Core augur hilariously counter by no maximum hand cards
@astuteanansi4935
Жыл бұрын
Who would win? One of the leaders of New Phyrexia, a supergenius who was the first to successfully Compleat a planeswalker *vs* the leaning tower of pisa
@PJB-bh8bn
Жыл бұрын
Vorinclex and sheoldred are busted bad😮💀👽
@aidendunbar4227
Жыл бұрын
I would love to see this list update after march of the machine and all shall be one
@aidanbrendel1592
Жыл бұрын
BELOVED SHITS BRICKS AND GIX
@shadowfate05
Жыл бұрын
One big issue I have with the new Vorinclex is it incidentally enables combos for your opponents with literally any creature with persist or undying being the biggest offenders, because they allow for infinite sacrifices when you make them put 0 counters on the creature to return it.
@ultratog1028
Жыл бұрын
New Norn does too. She makes stuff like Bouncelands bad for you and great for your opponent.
@orgazmo686971
Жыл бұрын
I've built the original 5 plus new Jin, and I'm getting the cards now for the other 3. I have to say old Urabrask has been pretty damn good for me (5-0), and in solitaire testing the new one I have high hopes for it too. Sheoldred has under-performed and I think the new one might be the weakest overall for me from online testing. You're ranking them in the 99, so it's a different standard - but when I did have the old 5 in the 99 of my Garth One-Eye deck it was still Urabrask-Elesh-Vorinclex-Jin-Sheoldred.
@jdogx211
Жыл бұрын
I like ALOT of this list, but I think Capena Urubrask is better the NPh becouse it ALOMST takes away your opponents draw step; they either use it, pick something up some other way, or, they lose it.
@JourneyVids333
Жыл бұрын
The only disagreement I have is for new Sheoldred. Apocalypse is easily top 3. Card advantage is so integral to commander, which is why taxing it is so strong. It’s the same reason why Smothering Tithe is good. Honestly the lifegain part is just gravy, it’s the damage that puts in the work. And she’s so aggressively costed.
@berserkermongoose
Жыл бұрын
I've played against both new Sheoldred and Elesh Norn. The new Sheoldred is by far the most dangerous of them all. She requires very little to win. In fact, you never even have to attack. You just need a Howling Mine effect, Underworld Dreams, and Bloodchief Ascension to be all set up.
@nathanielwalton4045
Жыл бұрын
Where's Atraxa
@gyrasolune5436
Жыл бұрын
I kinda wish the new Urabrask intersected with the relatively new thing red likes in the form of menace - 'creatures you control have menace, creatures your opponent control must tap another creature to attack' or something like that. I know it's primary in black more than red but-!
@TheAngelRaven
Жыл бұрын
Before watching: Mommy Norn is always the best Praetor. Mommy Norn is bestest.
@ANitschkeProduction
Жыл бұрын
Finaly, someone that said Yarok and not Panharmonicon for Mother of Machines. 👍🎉🥳
@steelcrowjpc
Жыл бұрын
The coolest praetor (urabrask) gets the worst cards come on just give us at less one decent card.
@twizzla1139
Жыл бұрын
I have a mono white Elesh Norn deck right now. I'm super excited for the new one!
@ultratog1028
Жыл бұрын
Elesh Norn MOM is good for current metas of commander. People have been cutting kill spells and instant speed interaction for etbs on creatures for years now. If you run more Snuff Out and less Shriekmaw, MOM loses a lot of her power.
@astuteanansi4935
Жыл бұрын
Even assuming not a single opponent is playing any ETBs, she's still Yarok with the same CMC, and the panharmonicon effect is what you're building around. Her other effect, as wildly powerful as it is, is just the gravy on top of the benefits she gives. The only thing holding her back as a commander is that she's mono white, and that's not even saying anything about throwing her into the 99 of other decks.
@WeebsUnite
Жыл бұрын
Sanguine Praetor is amazing against token decks.
@bobbycallaway1819
Жыл бұрын
Considering that Sheldon Menary literally asked WOTC to not print the #1 card, its slot is sort of guaranteed, I think. After that, I agree with your list as far as each Praetor in a vacuum. But in the right builds, even OG Sheoldred and and new Urabrask can be brutal (ex. A friend in my pod plays Urabrask Heretic in a Izzet wheel build. If he manages to play it after getting Narset into play, it's functionally game over for the table).
@japplek
Жыл бұрын
Narset plus wheel is the game over there. Urubrask adds barely nothing to the combo. Such a shame, Urubrask in the lore is the most exciting of the praetors but as a card... :(
@michaelchoate5940
Жыл бұрын
This video established a shopping list for me, thanks!
@sordieo
Жыл бұрын
Atraxa #1
@anonmisfit
Жыл бұрын
very entertaining, tyvm ❤
@davidgoulding1386
Жыл бұрын
Ebon praetor!!! What a card with breeding pool (or maybe it was put?) So much fun
@brodiecooper4986
Жыл бұрын
The new Sheoldred is easily the best in both competitive and casual. Besides that I think the list is spot on.
@baconlover4741
Жыл бұрын
100% disagree with rankings! 5 stars
@Its-Lulu
Жыл бұрын
Solid video :)
@CoversIncorporated
Жыл бұрын
Old Elesh that high and New Sheoldred that low? Lololol
@baconsir1159
Жыл бұрын
Old Jin should be WAAAAAY lower. Doesn't do nearly enough for a whopping 10 drop
@clrl936
Жыл бұрын
If you play Jin you are no paying the 10 mana... there are plenty of ways to cheat him out into play and his Effect is pretty much game over.
@baconsir1159
Жыл бұрын
@@clrl936 Bro this is as commander, how tf you cheating him out of the command zone at instant speed? ESPECIALLY in mono blue?
@zaqwsx41375
Жыл бұрын
I remember situation where Original Elesh didn't care much, it's is Mirrodin-innnistrad standart. Gw tokens mirror stalled , and both players have Gavony Township activatons for a several turns.
@kaphity
Жыл бұрын
My playgroup agreed to not play the new Elesh Norn once she comes out. She is just not fun to play against. Not just a little annoying, straight up not fun.
@slifer867
Жыл бұрын
How about old vorinclex? Super fun right?!
@pussaemuncha
Жыл бұрын
>ranking the newest praetor as the most “OP” Tell me you’re sponsored without telling me you’re sponsored
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