At least he can pursue his dream of being a painter while he's in the bench
@myssledissle
6 жыл бұрын
He can paint Franz in his stead
@eevee1583
6 жыл бұрын
Lee Da Bin Lol
@noir-4092
3 жыл бұрын
Like ignatz
@windmage0168
3 жыл бұрын
@@myssledissle Draw me like one of your French units.
@kirbymastah
6 жыл бұрын
I was really hoping you'd compare Forde's base stats to Tana's Because Tana is one level lower, with the same base strength, but with flight and way more speed lmao
@FloraOfTheCats
6 жыл бұрын
oh damn thats brutal.
@Mekkkah
6 жыл бұрын
Forde is a wuss
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
6 жыл бұрын
+Mekkkah Forde is no longer your waifu? Its Tana now?
@charleouel9012
6 жыл бұрын
True tho Tana got lower CON, lower avaibility, not acess to 2 weapons to take adventage of weapon triangle less DEF etc. (so yah sure Tana isn't bad far form it I just prf Forde higher avaibility he will be like lvl 10 or something I don't know I forgot how much lvl he get in 4 chapter but still quite a bit.)
@kyraevermoon5544
5 жыл бұрын
@@charleouel9012 Higher availability? Forde's only available for one and a half chapters more than Tana. Forde is in 5x, then shows up again halfway through 8. Tana shows up in 9 on both routes. Granted, it is still slightly more availability, just not enough to matter.
@FloraOfTheCats
6 жыл бұрын
"oops, you missed the benchmark! and of course, you know why we call them "bench"marks, *right*?"
@skyler8011
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mekkah. I feel like this video is due to for an update consider how Forde carried you in your FE8 ironman, Conquest Lunatic, and bank account. Just sayin'.
@Mangs1337
6 жыл бұрын
So this is why my Super Randomized Fe8 LP didn't go well.
@kingsaul754
6 жыл бұрын
Mangs FORDE IS OUR LORDE!
@Sylasha
6 жыл бұрын
Mangs doing poorly because a unit is bad. Definitely not because he never plans ahead, makes a mistake, and makes 5 more mistakes trying to fix that mistake.
@TenaciousDingo
6 жыл бұрын
Maybe it would've gone better if you hadn't mangs'd through it.
@therapeface4153
6 жыл бұрын
Or you're just shit.
@frknspacewizardbrett6044
6 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it's a coincidence that so many people that are willing to go out of their way to insult you watch Mekkah... Regardless, I just wanted to say that an enjoyable lets play is always better than a perfectly played one, and you deliver that. Thank you for everything you do Mangs. =D
@MythrilZenith
6 жыл бұрын
Forde: Why a good character in a good class and a (generally) good archetype isn’t always a good unit.
@matthewcoyle4131
6 жыл бұрын
Smh you didn't even reclass him into alchemist. It's like you don't even understand how to play this game.
@cyncynshop
4 жыл бұрын
Should've reclass him into soldier. The best class in fe.
@doodledungit
4 жыл бұрын
@@cyncynshop he was making a reference
@theghostcreator776
3 жыл бұрын
and why wasn't franz a general!?
@matthewcoyle4131
3 жыл бұрын
@@theghostcreator776 hmm yes. An ARMOR knight.
@bbx-cr8wv
6 жыл бұрын
Forde defies the odds by being a bad cavalry unit in Fire Emblem
@justaddwater6644
6 жыл бұрын
There’s plenty of them. You’re either so bad your class doesn’t matter or you’re great cause you’re a cav
@ChillstoneBlakeBlast
6 жыл бұрын
Roshea and Vyland are worse, but Kaga desinged them to be bad as punishment for killing Cain and Abel. Clide is overhated IMO, as he can pontentionally (Is in Gaiden) be your only cavalier up until you rescue Mathilda. Like and Roderick are decent in Lower difficulties of FE12 but Cecil stand out better for having the best Offense, which is a decent trait for a Cavalier to have. Mekkkah defended Alec and Noish but they are kinda bad as Sigurd is just so good to wreck everything.
@elqueexiste5434
6 жыл бұрын
What the hell, Luke and Roderick are miles better than Cecil. Luke has those absurdly balanced growths and bases without being too low, and in a speedier class he basically becomes Kris lite. Luke is extremely hard to screw up. Roderick is Luke lite, similar advantages, lower bases. Meanwhile, Cecil has a shallower reclassing pool due to having no dick, and while she runs circles around most of the cast when it comes to speed, she has very paltry bulk. In FE12, dodgetanking is so much not a thing; basically everything hits its target. This is an issue considering Cecil's 19 HP and 5 defense. Already an issue in vanilla Lunatic, imagine it in Reverse Lunatic, what with enemies always hitting first. Also, she joins in Prologue 6, 5 prologues later than Luke and Roderick, so she has less time to grow, and by the time she joins, your allies will be somewhat stronger, and ugh keeping her alive in Ogma!Prologue 6. Of course, I was talking about FE12. I don't really know how they fare in FE3, but I've heard Sirius and Matthis (Yes, that Matthis) are much better.
@mechamonkeymancityboat7785
6 жыл бұрын
Thracia 776 has Hicks and Brighton, they are not that bad but their bases aren't that good (however, Brighton's bases aren't that bad and he has Wrath while Hicks' redeeming features are being mounted and joining with a Halberd), even though anyone can be scroll abused in thracia. Just ignore the "cavaliers" on Thracia because they aren't good enough. Carrion has potential but Robert, Alba and Kein can hold hands and go to hell (or chapter 21x, if you want)
@duyminhpham8083
6 жыл бұрын
Brighton has good offense with Wrath AND good defense as well. Hicks is just discount Brighton. Both of them are better than Selphina's loser squad of Cavaliers. Carrion is actually good if you train him but most of the times I just give someone else the Elite sword.
@shadedhydra6674
6 жыл бұрын
Forde is actually my favourite of the three Cavaliers personality wise but being outclassed by the others has made it so that I don't use him unless I've actually planned in advance to use him, this probably could've been fixed by a higher speed growth but as it stands most people tend to see him as the worst GBA Cav. Sucks that he's outclassed by his brother because his supports make him seem to be the best of the three.
@SAITEKIKA
6 жыл бұрын
This Video talks solely about Forde in Gameplay. I think it's perfectly reasonable to like Forde as a character, but not as a unit.
@shadedhydra6674
6 жыл бұрын
SicKN4STy Yeah very true, I personally don't like Ryoma much and find one of the best things about him is how good he is as a unit.
@ChillstoneBlakeBlast
6 жыл бұрын
He needs his Bases fix
@duyminhpham8083
6 жыл бұрын
He is still better than Treck/Trewd at least.
@WindWolfVII
6 жыл бұрын
Duy Minh Pham Took the words right out of my mouth.
@DarthWillSmith
6 жыл бұрын
"Always one or two points short of being halfway decent" OMG YES WHAT IS UP WITH THAT?
@fangslime
6 жыл бұрын
So I'm guessing Mekkah's more of a Chrysler guy.
@SL-zn9oh
6 жыл бұрын
Ghast disliked this video
@gorade1901
6 жыл бұрын
Sean L well tbf Ghast said he loves his character, not his use in battle.
@GoldenPincers
6 жыл бұрын
What if you did a mini-series of: "Worst FE unit per game"? I think that'd be pretty interesting.
@pez1850
6 жыл бұрын
This is so sad, Boey play With Mila's Divine Protection
@misterbadguy7325
4 жыл бұрын
Fire Emblem 1: Macellan. Armor knights are bad and he's the worst one in this game. Fire Emblem 2: Atlas. Joining in Act 3 as a Villager is not a good look, and his growths are kinda garbo. Fire Emblem 3: Roshea. A bad paladin in a classic Fire Emblem game is rare, but he shows up super late and kinda weak in a game full to bursting with better picks. Fire Emblem 4: Arden. Basically a joke character, let's be real; the designers knew he sucked and ran with it. Fire Emblem 5: Miranda. Being an Est is bad, being an Est in Thracia is worse, being an Est with bad skills, no personal weapon, and lesser crit chance is a nightmare. Fire Emblem 6: Wendy. An Armor who can't take hits on her join chapter is irredeemable. Fire Emblem 7: Karla. Requires tons of investment into a different mediocre unit, all for a worse version of Karel, in a game where swordmasters aren't very good. At least Nino can chip. Fire Emblem 8: Ewan. Ewan versus Amelia is debatable, but I'd say Ewan is worse because he joins later and at least Amelia can go pally. Fire Emblem 9: Rolf. Would be your standard crappy early archer if he joined in the first chapter, and he joins in the ninth. Fire Emblem 10: Lyre. Worse version of Lethe, and Lethe struggled to begin with. Gets doubled on her join chapter while transformed. Fire Emblem 11: Lorenz. Powercreep, especially on Hard, turns those once-decent bases terrible, and he gets doubled by everything. Fire Emblem 12: Bantu. Bad bases, bad growths, bad everything, and he can't get out of his class. Fire Emblem 13: Donnel. A good father, but needs to be babied hard to pick up kills and having to start all over with his weapon rank is just cruel. Fire Emblem 14: Mozu. Better on Conquest because bow-users are at a premium, but she's basically Donnel again. Fire Emblem 15: Forsythe. Underleveled, bad class, bad movement, big maps. He's better than Lukas longterm but so is most people. Needs a Pitchfork just to be okay. Fire Emblem 16: Gilbert. Stuck in Fortress Knight in a game with giant maps, slow as a rock, underdeveloped skills, and being a tank sucks when a lot of the units after he joins are mages. Basically: Trainees, Ests, Armor Knights, and those terrible prepromotes that can't survive on their join chapters.
@sand5533
4 жыл бұрын
Pez underrated comment
@NieOrginalny
4 жыл бұрын
@@misterbadguy7325 how the fuck is Gilbert stuck in Fortress, do you even remember how the game works? Gilbert turns into Wyvern Rider after one month of learning and lord after three, he has good strength, hp and defense bases, while wyvern boosts his speed to be on par with most people.
@overlordreviews7351
4 жыл бұрын
Donnel can have such abysmal stat growth, that by the time you get him promoted to an advanced class, he should have almost 200 stat points. He is just a underdog, but can be turned into a damm wall if you level him right
@MageKnight404
6 жыл бұрын
This hurts me on a meta level. But he's still the most fabulous goofball painter Eirika has. ' 3'
@SquidSystem
6 жыл бұрын
Forde is our lord. As in he has poor combat capabilities in most situations.
@fluffy9071
6 жыл бұрын
Hey, forde may suck in gameplay but at least he's a cool character
@DoPe-ps1bf
6 жыл бұрын
I don't know why but Mekkah sounds more aggressive than usual
@lordtullus9942
6 жыл бұрын
Lee Da Bin true. Why hate him THIS MUCH? He's acting like forde's veey existance is a sin, when he's just as usable as any other less than servicable unit. And the rule of fire emblem is this: if you want to use a unit badly, nomatter the game, you can make them work. This video does not need to exist.
@Mattroid99
6 жыл бұрын
Well; not really. He simply explains why he hates Forde as a unit, and he's objectively mediocre. He never said that YOU shouldn't use him. There's a difference my man I love Forde as a character, but is still really bad, no matter how much I tried but he ALWAYS ended up really mediocre too
@sebastiansanchez763
6 жыл бұрын
well, forde is not really a popular unit/character so this video is kind of random...
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
6 жыл бұрын
+KaitoMarmota Lol Mekkkah judges Bases, not Growths He has a Veteran fetish where he Zerg-rush the game with Pre-promotes without bothering about training the Rookies or Recruits.
@Mattroid99
6 жыл бұрын
XxxJim_ the_ ReaperxxX Not really, he judges units about their utility (That often is because of bases. Ests and trainees are almost always bad units because they need to be trained when they join, instead of being instantly) His "Veteran Fetish" is justified, are your strongest units for 3/4 of the game, if not the entire game
@n.l.g.6401
6 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, another unit to add to my "I'm definitely using this" pile. Just call me Oscar the Grouch, because trash is my treasure.
@Social_Requirments
3 жыл бұрын
the good news is that your most likely not going to have him chipped to death because he kills the attacking enemy
@Swordsmaster
6 жыл бұрын
As a character, you're going to have to fight Ghast, maybe not as a unit though.
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
6 жыл бұрын
pokemonwarriorcat13 Mekkkah is a Halberdier with 1-2 Range and Ghast is a Wyvern Rider. Who will win? Next time on Fire Emblem Pitfalls!
@MultiKarmacharger
6 жыл бұрын
I'd pay to watch that.
@loruapollo6634
6 жыл бұрын
He is trying his best
@zachcarter4197
6 жыл бұрын
「Loru Apollo」 No he isn't, look at his supports, he hardly tries (makes sense as to why he starts out better than franz, and a little better than kyle but quickly ends up worse)
@MrValandas
6 жыл бұрын
Forde, more like Fordegettable.
@darkthunder301
6 жыл бұрын
You can't aForde an unFordegiveably bad unit
@NinjaAO42
4 жыл бұрын
*Ghast wants to know your location*
@Social_Requirments
3 жыл бұрын
not to me, i believe it was capter 14 where someone used beserk on him and he sucided into a group of enemies
@IschmarVI
5 ай бұрын
Forde, more like Fordon't *tidus laughter*
@char1194
6 жыл бұрын
Huh and here I was thinking my Forde was simply cursed when I tried using him and he just sucked
@zad_rasera
6 жыл бұрын
Char11 Same lol. I've played fe8 a couple of times and he always turns out bad.
@dragonknightleader1
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah. So many other cavs in that game are better. Really, expect Forde to be better than my base level Jagen at some point.
@farmingsim9813
6 жыл бұрын
Small correction to the spreadsheet: Forde is level 6, Kyle is level 5. I've always despised Forde, and I'm glad I'm not the only one.
@Mekkkah
6 жыл бұрын
yeah i blame FEA but this just makes him even worse
@ChillstoneBlakeBlast
6 жыл бұрын
chessjumpbowl did you not even hear the video? Besides, by this point Franz (Unless you are not using him for whatever reason) is on par or even superior when you get him back at chapter 8
@Mekkkah
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah forde is actually an important component for 0% growths, but more due to a lack of better alternatives than anything else. midgame fe8 0% is pretty difficult and I know Forde can do some work with Killer weapons there but he's not exactly dominant.
@LordZemosa
6 жыл бұрын
I thought you would have mentioned how Forde's design was based off of Fergus from fe5, and comes no where near as close to him combat wise
@SethJV
4 жыл бұрын
Too bad it's not Fergus from FE7
@kentknightofcaelin4537
4 жыл бұрын
@@SethJV his name is Fargus
@SethJV
4 жыл бұрын
@@kentknightofcaelin4537 thatsthejoke.png
@Edgeperor
3 жыл бұрын
@@SethJV I see no joke here.
@kevinskyssandbox7610
6 жыл бұрын
He has some of the coolest supports and one of the best personalities/backgrounds in FE8, so he's still definitely worth using
@Kryptnyt
6 жыл бұрын
You should make a video about Treck by just editing his name over Forde's name and changing the visuals and removing the great knight part
@zad_rasera
6 жыл бұрын
Kryptnyt Hey, Treck is awsum
@boredomkiller9985
5 жыл бұрын
I used Forde in most playthroughs of Fe8 because mounted units rock and you nailed it on the head. The thing is that Forde is not even that bad when compared to other units outside his class. He doesn't suffer from horrible join time, being way too underlevel or being in a weak base class. The problem is he has to compete against Franz who has simlar growths but more availabity and levels for them to work, Kyle who has the decency to have some bulk and muscle without being too worse in speed, Seth who is best character in game. Gilliam might not be the same class but he uses the same crest and at the very least Gilliam brings good bulk which can be really helpful in Ephraim's hard mode like in Chp 11 where anyone not named Dussel and Seth is a liability. Forde is not bad but he is massively meh to other cavalier and since you only get so many promotion items the first half of the game he just the first one to be bench if you going bench one.
@spiraljumper74
5 жыл бұрын
I remember how surprised I was when I learned how bad Marisa was statistically. In my first two EE8 playthroughs she really turned out and was an absolute killing machine and dodge tank.
@smaragdchaos
4 жыл бұрын
Marisa is essentially a carbon copy of Fir from FE6 in japanese FE8. International FE8 slightly buffed Marisa's growths to make her a bit better.
@aidendavid2680
3 жыл бұрын
Marisas like the worst unit in sacred stones hands down
@stephenclark9070
Жыл бұрын
@@smaragdchaos That probably would explain my confusion. Marisa was always good for me. But if I got a copy where her growths were improved compared to the Japanese original, it would explain why my experience with the game is inconsistent compared to most commentary. My copy probably has more alterations than the original or the emulators most play nowadays.
@damianiscringe1082
Жыл бұрын
@@aidendavid2680 neimi is unpassable when it comes to being bad
@keithmoussa1609
6 жыл бұрын
I remember one run of Sacred Stones where Forde got better level ups than any other unit and crit all the time for some reason. The RNG was in his favour...
@sirkillalot9892
6 жыл бұрын
For a second I thought you were going to criticise his character. But thankfully I was incorrect.
@cheeseofglass
Жыл бұрын
One big problem is that he has a Steel Sword and Javelin in his first chapter. The first thing I do is swap his Steel Sword for Kyle's Iron one (assuming I'm gonna use them both.) It's nonsensical that Forde has it when it slows him down and Kyle has enough Con to use it with no problems. It makes Forde's piddly speed advantage irrelevant. He can kill the Archer at 3:45 with an Iron Sword, for example.
@plushyloverowo6730
6 жыл бұрын
Mekkkah mentions growths?
@maxdavidson3319
6 жыл бұрын
Jon TM i see you have a bors pfp. You are cultured man.
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
6 жыл бұрын
Max Davidson Hes a Good unit.
@maxdavidson3319
6 жыл бұрын
XxxJim_ the_ ReaperxxX Yes i used him in fe6, he actuallu worked alright
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
6 жыл бұрын
+Max Davidson He was basically Oswin.
@maxdavidson3319
6 жыл бұрын
XxxJim_ the_ ReaperxxX Bors was pretty fast in my playthrough. If they add Bors to heroes they should make him like Amelia/Black Knights statline.
@Goosaphone
6 жыл бұрын
Don't do my boi Edward Elric like that.
@eevee1583
6 жыл бұрын
When your younger brother easily passes you
@SethJV
4 жыл бұрын
Well, Forde doesn't want to fight so...
@michaelgum97
Жыл бұрын
The only way that I managed to "fix" his damage is by having him use the Killer Lance that you get in 5x, with it being light and strong enough to let him solid damage. But the reason that I put the word "fix" in quotations is because Kyle can also use the Killer Lance even a little more effectively because of being stronger.
@Scorpion122178
6 жыл бұрын
If I could be so bold as to make a request I really would like a tier list for FE 9 or 10 like the ones you did for 7 and 8.
@wroughtp1002
2 жыл бұрын
Love watching this after the Iron man run where Amelia outperformed Forde after 3 level ups while Forde got several crap levels.
@osdkjfnf7527
Жыл бұрын
There's light at the end of the tunnel though, while Forde is outclassed by the other cavaliers in FE8, at least he's not Engage's Alfred who needs babying, or even worse: Fiona in Radiant Dawn who's functionally useless even with BEXP dumping
@MultiKarmacharger
6 жыл бұрын
Rare footage of Mekkah wielding the medallion in preparation for Radiant Dawn
@domc8089
6 жыл бұрын
I like Forde as a character and it pains me to see how bad he is. He is just so pathetic that he can barely even out his competition in a redeemable way. Maybe if he had a C in lances, he could get a pass in his joining chapter for some potential 1RKOs, but he just has nothing. Edit: I'm a dumbass, I realize he does have a C rank. Even if you try to get that Killer Lance, it still consumes the turn count, which is pretty significant for such a gargantuan map.
@anirudhviswanathan3986
6 жыл бұрын
Uncle Owain Complaining about turncounts in a game without ranks or ANY incentive/objective to clear faster? Gotta love those lot-turn counts. Efficiency in this game, is arbitrary at best and idiotic at worst. Argue efficiency in FE-11, 10, 5, 12, 9, you know ANY other game that incentivises clearing faster/has ranks, else there is ZERO meaning to that word.
@domc8089
6 жыл бұрын
Anirudh Viswanathan shit urite. I should obviously be training Amelia and Marisa, because they are clearly better units than Franz and Vanessa, since efficiency in this game is so "arbitrary".
@royceabshire2453
5 жыл бұрын
@@domc8089 Yeah man Marissa and Amelia are best waifus. Why wouldn't you use them. X'D
@imjustryley2197
5 жыл бұрын
@@royceabshire2453 Because they're bad units.
@crosseyedfox
6 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day, I would say it comes down to how blessed you are with RNG and the stat rolls from lvl-ups. Even bad units can shine. In my two recent runs Forde maxed three important stats during one run, and in the other run he became the worst cavalier in my team.
@jesamoko4083
3 жыл бұрын
With that thinking every unit could be good. What he is talking about is averages.
@mghegotagun
6 жыл бұрын
"Always one or two points short of being halfway decent" Huh... never learned that first hand. Mostly because I used him for two chapters one time, had a bad feeling about this, put both him and Kyle on the bench, then used Amelia and Franz as my growth paladins.
@kentknightofcaelin4537
5 жыл бұрын
Forde is better than Amelia though because basically everyone is.
@gregster1016
6 жыл бұрын
@Ghast shrieks in the distance
@lordtullus9942
6 жыл бұрын
Gregster 101 so do I
@rubeng9092
6 жыл бұрын
Treck on the other hand is the man...
@zad_rasera
6 жыл бұрын
Ruben Granz They almost have the same personality lmao. But, yes, Treck is indeed the man. He's one of my favorite characters on FE6 both character-wise and unit-wise.
@EdwardoFE
6 жыл бұрын
being a worse franz still means you’re good because FE8 is silly.
@hosinw
4 жыл бұрын
Ewan and Amelia do require a lot of investment and the context of there recruitment so late without tower would make it hard to see them being used. Marissa's attack struggles. All of that said and opinions aside. Every time I've used Forde he has been undoubtedly the absolute worst. Kyle nit to farbehind, but atleast he'll get def and attack kind of. Forde's stat growths have to be bugged or something
@SAITEKIKA
6 жыл бұрын
Woah. Now that I think about it, yeah you are right. I always had troubles with Forde, but i always assumed it was because he kept getting RNGscrewed. My main pitfall being I thought he couldn't be bad because he's a cavalier. But in my average playthroughs of Fe8, Forde Always under performs especially against the other cavaliers. Where Franz and Kyle on my average playthrough have a close battle reaching base Seth, Forde doesn't come close in any of them. I always end up using him as a rescue/trade bot or benching him for any one of the later game pre-promotes. Nice video!
@Firguy
4 жыл бұрын
You ever notice that Forde is just a recolor of Judeau from Berserk? While Franz is Rickert? And Barthe is Pippin? And Nino is Schierke? And Lowen is Cyborg 002? And Shanna is Sailor Mercury?
@SweaterPuppys
6 жыл бұрын
I like using Forde he normally does good for me obviously that’s just personal experience but just looking at his growths you can see he’s not really good
@KaiserX40
Жыл бұрын
His base level is too high for how bad his stats are, early promotion is good don't get me wrong. But I wouldn't waste a Knight Crest on him, it's not worth it.
@opalyasu7159
Жыл бұрын
You’re not alone. I preferred Kyle right from the get go. He has way better strength and defense, and surprisingly makes for a pretty good great knight. He can even rival Duessel, from what I remember
@madmaxiemartialartsnerd485
Жыл бұрын
The game itself offers you a few different versions of Seth. Seth The Paladin, Dussel the Greatknight, Saleh the sage, Dozla the Berserker. INees the sniper. These tier 2s are given to us out of game balance, so we can handle the bigger levels where tier 2s are almost mandatory to have. However if you grind some units to level 20 and than promote them, they almost all have the potential to out class their "seth" counterparts.
@opalyasu7159
Жыл бұрын
@@madmaxiemartialartsnerd485 so you're defining seth not as a character but as an archetype? in this case, i guess it would be whoever's the strongest in their respective field. still sounds interesting
@madmaxiemartialartsnerd485
Жыл бұрын
@@opalyasu7159 Yes actually, FE8 Isn't the only game to do this. Some games with party based mechanics, the main character starts off weak, and is given a mentor like character for us to control that has stats that are way above the normal. This is done for a few reasons but largely for story telling for the writers to say "hey this character is a bad ass, look at their big numbers compared to everyone else". While Seth is the most obvious example i FE8 he is by no means the only one.
@SuperZez
5 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but zooming in on Forde's face while saying "Forde is a sneaky one" made me laugh.
@endeavorrattata7839
6 жыл бұрын
To be fair his dream was to be a painter, not to be a soldier in the military. Plus his personality says that he's lazy and reckless.. which explains his bad stats.. since well ya gotta be a skilled and focused one to be a soldier. Also i imagine Forde brushing his lance but since he's brushing it.. It wont be that strong.
@mycenaeangal9312
3 жыл бұрын
I did a girl only run soooooo I didn’t use any of the cavs :p
@CLTurtle
6 жыл бұрын
What promotion reduces your movement? Dread Fighter to Villager! Though it doesn’t make Forde any better.
@Silver-VIII
6 жыл бұрын
Mekkah you gotta do more angry Rant videos over units like this man, this was great
@willbill6942
5 жыл бұрын
Makkah, you’re wrong. I used Forde once and he was really good.
@snurt256
4 жыл бұрын
I made my Forde a great knight, and apparently I got very lucky with my growths because he's actually usable (if you can ignore the fact that he moves like an armor unit). This must be my friend's power rubbing off on me, his Lyn has 15 strength and is actually pretty good, despite being Lyn.
@ebicbarton
4 жыл бұрын
If you made him a great Knight, then he *does* move like a armour unit
@bigshezfan
6 жыл бұрын
Eh he’s still my favorite cavalier in the game i always will use him
@Kardz6
5 жыл бұрын
Funny how my Forde got RNG blessed while my Franz and Kyle got Rng screwed
@NinjaSox7
5 жыл бұрын
Oof. I mean even if he's a bad unit I still think he's a great character.
@blackknightjack3850
4 жыл бұрын
I like that Forde is more geared towards swords which is why I guess I was more predisposed to using him in my most recent FE8 playthrough, but holy shit does he die every chapter I decide to deploy him in. I REALLY regret using him over Kyle because at least Kyle can tank hits.
@polyman6859
Ай бұрын
This is the funniest video on the internet. There’s like 14 levels of comedy here and only 2 of them are intentional from Mekkah.
@Coolkid6859
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah... I tried to use him a few times as well and he has never turned out great. That part where you said that he is always short of something is SO true. It sucks because personality wise he is so cool.
@patrickanderson6367
6 жыл бұрын
Forde is a top tier Waifu why wouldn’t you use him?
@zachcarter4197
6 жыл бұрын
Patrick Anderson Mangs states the usefulness in a unit in regards to LTC (low turn count) units that have lower stats, and are not mounted/flying are inherently bad for those runs.
@patrickanderson6367
6 жыл бұрын
Zach Carter My comment is a joke although I’m guessing yours is too as you wrote Mangs instead of Mekkkah.
@TheBenchLord
3 жыл бұрын
My Forde must have been really stat blessed then. He was actually one of the main seven of units who were cleaning house, the others being Seth, Eirika, Dozla, Garcia, Joshua and Myrrh by doubling absolutely everything that wasn't a swordmaster or assassin
@mikemurdock7234
6 жыл бұрын
This video hits the nail on the head. 100% agree, you EXPECT Forde to be good. I like him as a character in his supports, but god he is so underwhelming compared to all the other cavaliers you get in FE8. I have never had good luck with his growths. His strength and defense stats are always bad. Even if you grind him up to level 20 before promotion, I have never managed to get him good strength and defense stats. You completely summed up my frustrations mentioning how he struggles against trash enemies. Franz is a better Paladin all around and I enjoy using Kyle more.
@jedisalsohere
2 жыл бұрын
I've watched this so many times and every time Mekkah calls him "Forde Speedly" I just burst out laughing.
@slemanrawashdeh1864
3 жыл бұрын
i like him as a character he sleeps in the battlefield disregarding the enemy and go painting in the field im the kind of guy who actually try every one they survived or not in my books everyone hase uses
@verbelic3369
6 жыл бұрын
Ghast found dead in an alley in Renais
@pkmntrainermann4476
6 жыл бұрын
This is depressing, I was told Franz was good. Now I am at chapter 19 and he has 11 strength as a paladin. I feel ripped off.
@rggrill3588
6 жыл бұрын
Welcome to FE where RNG can be a total bitch
@jonahj9519
6 жыл бұрын
Um, actually, 0% growths great knight Forde can one round skeletons in chapters 11 and 12, so your arguments are invalid.
@Mekkkah
6 жыл бұрын
sssh don't ruin the magic
@endeavorrattata7839
6 жыл бұрын
*IN 0% GROWTHS* Plus there are other better choices, y'know Seth?! Duessel?! Dozla!?
@jonahj9519
6 жыл бұрын
?** Dozla’s too slow, and I did Erika mode to have more chapters to train Saleh’s staff rank, so I had no Dussel. Look, I’m not saying it was optimal, but Seth and Gerik could only be in one place each, so I needed someone else to do combat.
@FloraOfTheCats
5 жыл бұрын
lol
@JustPassingBy1234
6 жыл бұрын
I'm currently in my first FE8 run and I'm running Seth + Kyle. Mainly chose Kyle over Franz because my Franz got rng screwed (literally 0 spd lvl ups) while Kyle had godlike lvl ups, so when I got the first Knight Crest, the choice wasn't that hard. Forde wasn't even considered an option :')
@Cesar-cl7bw
4 ай бұрын
Man I just LOVE this video. You have to make a Waifu of Kyle just to piss off Forde
@TheDarkSunGwyndolin
3 жыл бұрын
I agree, I always found that forde was always short of something
@calar8
5 жыл бұрын
Well this is awkward.
@e-tean-son4146
3 жыл бұрын
"even Gilliam Is a better candidate" okey, i understand you hate Forde, but there Is no need to lie
@schwany6703
3 жыл бұрын
Gilliam is great love that guy
@e-tean-son4146
3 жыл бұрын
At least Forde can improve his strenght with a killer lance, or a good support, i don't find a way to improve Gilliam speed without a speedwing, i like Gilliam, but he Is not Oswin
@theghostcreator776
2 жыл бұрын
so... what you're saying is.... basically.... Forde is a better Jagen than Seth.
@sirkillalot9892
6 жыл бұрын
Maybe you could talk about Lilina. In terms of FE6, her viability has been somewhat divisive.
@gratedshtick
6 жыл бұрын
SirKillalot98 from what I could tell according to him, she's bad but lugh isn't much better. Both are used in ltc surprisingly.
@uwuslay3rrr
Жыл бұрын
I like to think the lore behind this video is that Mekkah got a solely hp level ups on Forde in a row and got absolutely livid
@donovanbarrientosreyes
6 жыл бұрын
Make a Waifu of Ronan, do it for the memes
@WalterOfMikado
3 жыл бұрын
Comparing two units of the same class. Bit of a pitfall isn't it XD
@isuckatgaming1873
2 жыл бұрын
In a way, he's the only balanced gba cavalier
@MaDDaWg650
6 жыл бұрын
I have been playing sacred stones for so long, and it was my first fire emblem game. Forde has never been good in any playthrough...until now! I am playing a hard playthrough right now and he defies odds and is actually my best unit, with a couple more points of defense he would even be better then Seth, he is still faster. His lance rank saves him a bit too, being C to start. With that said, this doesn't save him, but I found the changes I made, like not using his steel lance right away, and sticking with range and iron lances, and other cavalier stuff, he does well. Right now in my game, Kyle is in the middle, with good strength, Franz is made of paper, and he struggles in combat so I can't rely on him, I end up having to feed him kills, and Forde is reliable for everything, and I don't need to babysit him. I never thought I would see the day. I bet you could do a waifu on him. The only reason he ended up good is mainly because I gave him a chance. For example in chapter 5, since Kyle and Forde have better movement, I had Kyle ahead tanking and Forde finishing with his javelins. He leveled up quite a bit, getting speed a couple times, which then helped him use the steel lance and double reliably. Him using killer Lance's right away with his decent luck helped him secure kills too, as they don't weigh him down to much either. Fordes starting kit is no good, except for the javelin, so trade the steel lance to Kyle. Kyle won't double anyway, and usually won't be doubled so he just does more damage. I thought of the two like they were Gatrie and Shinon from FE9 with their "Thunder and Lighting" tactic. I am pretty proud of my playthrough because of the fact the my Cavaliers are all being useful. Franz is the only one that struggles a bit, but he is still alright doubling with javalins.
@themarimbaguy3038
3 жыл бұрын
Playing an rng draft run (had an rng tell me which eight characters to use) and Forde got critted by Carlyle. I had tried so hard to keep him alive all game, and finally watched this video and had enough. Thanks for the advice
@dualwieldroxas358
3 жыл бұрын
I know Forde is generally not very good, but for some reason, i always take him to the end of the game. I don't even know why. Franz is obviously better, and Seth outclasses everyone, but i always take Forde
@FlyingFistOfJuda
Жыл бұрын
Honestly the cavalier/paladin class is so broken it doesn't really matter that Forde is slightly less optimal than the rest.
@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx
6 жыл бұрын
Forde is no longer Mekkkah's waifu.
@gratedshtick
6 жыл бұрын
Mekkah can't afforde to wait to ch13i for a knight crest
@wJermell0
6 жыл бұрын
I really like Forde as a character, but I hated him as a unit. Even grinding him for supports just to see his character was a pain.
@thefreezenator8743
2 жыл бұрын
In my first playthrough of Sacred Stones, Forde was the only survivor (aside from the lords of course)
@GoldfishEmpire
Жыл бұрын
In my run, I used all of the horseys. Horseys go brrr.
@jomammahbeetch8236
2 жыл бұрын
This is the video I needed. 88 hit rate and Forde was just short of killing a mage in 5x. He only needed to hit once. Just short and now he’s in limbo of auto-save quit. Do I just let him die? Think so.
@joshuabaumgartner9719
4 жыл бұрын
Real gamers don't care about stats. Real fire emblem fans just use units the like. Forde carried my Ironman run along with Seth. But yeah Ameila is bad
@aeroklin
5 жыл бұрын
I used him a little in my last playthrough (though he was benched about halfway through), and actually didn't do terribly for me. Until I promoted him, upon which I realized I should have done Kyle (though I used neither in favor of Franz).
@whatareyoudoingHabibi
Жыл бұрын
meanwhile forde is my favorite FE8 character
@bongosmcdongos4190
4 ай бұрын
I think this video is an extremely rare pitfall. You said forde would still be bad with +5 move right? Because what's he going to do once he ever reaches an enemy, not much. So it stands to reason that movement is not valuable for forde. Movement is only valuable if the unit can contribute on arrival. Great knight gives forde those one or two points he's short by, at the cost of movement he can't really even use properly. Now I want to be clear, no one should be using forde EVER, but if you are using him, you either choose the class that lets him fight, or the class that lets him zoom across the map to get his butt kicked.
@theblueninjagaming3698
3 жыл бұрын
Forde was the only death I accepted on my blind playthrough, and I was on Difficult.
@SteelWingKnight
6 жыл бұрын
Gotta disagree with you here. Feels like you're just being biased against a character you don't like. Kyle might be a tiny bit better, but it's only 2 strength and +10% growth (vs Forde having 1 more speed and +5% speed) that's the meaningful difference, so not much, too small a difference to warrant the hate. Are you going to make a "Why I strongly dislike Kyle" video too? Franz might outgrow him due to having 5 more levels of growth if you max their levels, still would only be a rather small difference if it does happen. Forde's worked fine every time I used him (yeah, statistical averages vs personal experience). He's a perfectly capable unit and his 2 fellow cav competitors are only ever so slightly statistically better that it hardly makes a difference I think.
@Mekkkah
6 жыл бұрын
It's all part tongue in cheek but Forde really is always a disappointment. He looks okay on paper though. And +2 str is huge, as is +1 def. I also forgot +1 con which partially negates Forde's AS lead.
@SteelWingKnight
6 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'm underestimating the importance of the strength (and defense) difference over the course of the game. Forde's always worked out fine for me so I was just really surprised to see you (and others) consider him to be bad, it never would have occurred to me from my experience that he might be a poor unit. Personal experience aside, looking at the growths/bases they seem alright and only a tad bit inferior to Kyle and Franz. If you mainly mean that he's "disappointing" in the sense that on first glance he looks stronger than he'll usually end up being, I guess you have a point there. I still think he's a fine unit.
@GoonCommander
4 жыл бұрын
I usually just Make all my characters use horses so not having Forde doesn't make me feel all that bad.
@Sebstian208
3 жыл бұрын
In every play through I've done of sacred stones Forde has always been better than Franz or Kyle.
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