The absolute best thing that could be done for gymnastics right now would be bringing a handstand/strength/balance requirement back to balance beam. It just baffles me that they haven't done it, it's such a classic part of gymnastics, and if they're trying to bring back artistry, it's an essential part of what makes beam beautiful and artistic!
@janalove64
2 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more! It's all tumble tumble tumble. That one armed hand stand was amazing! Grace, beauty and artistry and fun tricks have left the building with modern day gymnastics. It's all jerky movements with power and tumbles.
@ruthmccormick9390
2 жыл бұрын
The Li looks so painful, the way she arches her back as it hits the beam... ouch. Maybe it's just me
@MS-mv7zi
2 жыл бұрын
She wasn't hitting her back, though. Most, if not all, of the impact was on her butt - I think the back arch is just for form.
@mindyschocolate
2 жыл бұрын
I thought it looked painful too.
@susangraham8972
2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree. If that move is executed wrong, it looks like you could break your back
@janetslater129
2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. I wonder how many bruises she got from working on that mount.
@ilsebill1678
2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more
@tuesdaypatience
Жыл бұрын
I loved everything Kristie Phillips did. I had incredible back (and everywhere else!) flexibility, but struggled with strength and endurance (three decades later finding out I have Ehlers Danlos Type III). So she was my HERO - I still have my copy of USA Gymnastics with her on the cover! I even had her haircut 😂!
@gothgirl4evr881
Жыл бұрын
I too had the same issues as a gymnast when I was younger and was diagnosed with the same problem as you when I was in my late 20s
@schlieffenska
Жыл бұрын
The Rankin and Philips look insane! Seriously impressive.
@rosee7011
11 ай бұрын
Have you seen Tatiana Groshkova? Go look her up right now if you have not seen her moves. Even better than the Phillips!
@genlyai5055
10 ай бұрын
@@rosee7011 Groshkova was a goddess. SO screwed over by the Sovs.
@gothgirl4evr881
Жыл бұрын
Sadly, we have lost so many awesome , beautiful, and difficult tricks over the years due to the focus on tumbling. We have also lost a lot of the dancing on the floor routines for the same reason.
@sunshinemagicalrainbowunic4004
Жыл бұрын
Yeah that makes no sense
@genlyai5055
Жыл бұрын
@@sunshinemagicalrainbowunic4004 Yeah your comment, like your handle, is drooling idiocy. Byebye. Schooled and blocked with delight.
@nanrobbins2916
Жыл бұрын
I was looking for the mount that was on the original photo. My late husband, Michael Robbins was featured on the first magazine cover of International Gymnast(Glen Sundby) doing it and I had never seen it done since. That was around 1960. Many difficult and beautiful routines were lost when gymnastics went onto only using the Olympic 6 event system. They used to do their floor routines on the bare floor and when mats were introduced it cut out all of the floor balancing routines. He was LA City champion in 1955, competed in the last meet with the flying rings, scored in the NCAA finals for UC-Berkeley and a Muscle Beach guy.
@gothgirl4evr881
Жыл бұрын
@@nanrobbins2916 sorry to hear about your loss, but that is so awesome he was pioneer in this sport. I don't personally remember having just bare floor but I do remember when the springs that are in the floor weren't near as big as they are now. It's no wonder why and how they are able to do the insane tumbling they do now a days. Don't get me wrong they are still very difficult but without the springs under the foam padding and mats the gymnast would not get the height they do in order to pull off many of the tumbling passes they do now.
@sugarzblossom8168
11 ай бұрын
I mean it is understandable having to break your gymnastic routine do a dance move
@osunale
2 жыл бұрын
I love flare and handstand mounts. It would be amazing if the COP would reward different kinds of gymnastics and we got to see more variety.
@jessicam5712
2 жыл бұрын
beam used to be so much more creative and artistic.
@dakshbadri
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why but I love the look of the Li Mount. It’s just so pretty to watch! The Rankin is also amamzingly unique. That mount should be rated higher
@gymnasticsmasterclass
2 жыл бұрын
Side note: The "Li mount" is named after Li Yifang (CHN) in the Code of Points, but apparently she has never performed it (?). The examples shown are performed by Li Li, so the Code may have got it wrong, which certainly wouldn't be the first time.
@Gazmeizster_Wongatron
2 жыл бұрын
That surprised me. Until this video I always assumed it was named after Li Li.
@lampwick4427
2 жыл бұрын
Li Yifang literally never performed it. Must have been another version of Stroescu/Cojocar fiasco
@JonnyTainment
2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I remember Li Li doing that mount at the Goodwill Games.
@erinloomis7032
2 жыл бұрын
Li Yifang did perform the skill (handstand to Healy). But she did it in the middle of her routine, not as her mount. Check out footage of her on beam from early 90s Worlds. I'm surprised the move was named after her, though. I always associate it with Li Li--even though Olga Strazheva actually did it in international competition before both of them. Li Li at least has that lovely back spin named after her.
@nylirama
10 ай бұрын
I know that today's gymnasts are very strong and do difficult moves but I prefer to watch older events likes these. I enjoy the different mounts, dismounts, and moves. More pleasing to my eye.
@marlisseporras3132
9 ай бұрын
now all routines feel the same🙄
@bubbercakes528
10 ай бұрын
The Renkin mount blew me away! Such an amazing combination of strength AND control. 😲
@nondescriptbeing5944
2 жыл бұрын
idk if this is radical, but it would be fun if they had some kind of static hold requirement. it can show off so much strength and flexibility (and balance). but I guess the powers that be decided they want constant uninterrupted motion with no pauses or hesitation.
@annabellerevell6888
2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I’d love to see some kind of static balance incorporated. One arm, one leg or handstand but please not more tumbling.
@b0rtie
2 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, in the beginning of the 01-04 quad, they tried incorporating it as a requirement on beam to do a static hold. I think Tim & Elfie mentioned it at the 2001 American Cup. Sadly, they seemed to have done away with that requirement after 2001.
@genlyai5055
Жыл бұрын
Constant uninterrupted FLAILING with hideous wrist-flicks and zero flow.
@donaldholderdoc2910
Жыл бұрын
The Baitova just goes to prove that some women gymnasts could do the Pamnel Horse with great flare. I always was amazed at Kristie Phillips first placement of her hands when mounting. She always had an open flex in her hand while just using her grip strength to power herself to an incredible Handstand. I believe if she hadn't chosen gymnastics, she could have had a show on the Las Vegas Strip performing contortion. She was so incredibly flexible. I don't care if you're made of Steele or what, but the Li always makes me cringe. Control decent or not, that has got to hurt! ps. Great video. I don't know where you researched to find all these shots, but Bravo!!
@lindacoolbaugh962
2 жыл бұрын
I love that Rankin damn the strength to do that. I miss all these mounts, wish they would bring them back.
@Margo-oj5yc
2 жыл бұрын
Mounts like that one are tough because they take several seconds to perform and the athletes have to cram so many skills into a 90 second time limit. They still show up in NCAA routines, though, where there are fewer composition requirements and thus a bit more room for this kind of skill. Peng-Peng Lee (UCLA) famously did a very similar mount throughout her NCAA career.
@margotloeffen4221
Жыл бұрын
They would have enough time to do the Rankin or other beautiful holds, if they didnt had to waste time on all this stupid 'artistry'
@genlyai5055
Жыл бұрын
@@Margo-oj5yc So many badly done, ugly 'skills' and zero grace. Grandi , Smelly Scrim, etc, ruined gymnastics. USAG and the Karolyicunts didn't help. LOL!
@imangymfans4826
Жыл бұрын
The Rankin, gosh...the amount of core strength needed to do that!
@ivylin5960
2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I don't know why mounts like the Silivas or Moceanu are also so rare -- they're not that risky.
@Plaspos
2 жыл бұрын
Skye Blakely does the Silivas mount
@eimardgomes1128
2 жыл бұрын
They consume too much time and are worth nothing.
@MSUSPARTANS1973
2 жыл бұрын
I forget what it’s called, but I absolutely love that mount Dominique Moceanu did in the ‘96 Olympics. I know it’s not the hardest, but I’d never seen anything like it.
@jessicarupe9199
Жыл бұрын
It's a variation on the Silivas mount, adding an extra turn. I first saw it when Dominique Moceanu did it at the 96 Olympics.
@user-dd5eh5lu3o
7 ай бұрын
Silivas started that in at least 1988 at the Seoul Olympic, she was doing it then. She also did a variation later like in 1989 or 1990 that had her in that chest stand position but she lets go of the beam for a second or so and flexes her arms so they’re straight, putting all her weight on the chest and no arm or hand support. Anyone remember that variation? I can’t recall the first comp I saw her do it but it was just after the Seoul Olympics. I’m old ha. Edit .. double checked and she was doing this variation at the 1989 world championships so check video for that, she has a ponytail by then.
@mdml0
Жыл бұрын
The Rankin looks so acrobatic and playful. Seems like a move I've seen in an anime before, but it must be very difficult in reality.
@valeriexoxo
Жыл бұрын
I’ll take any of them being that all the beam routines look pretty much the same nowadays. I also wish they would get rid of the jazz hands
@lorelaim3294
2 жыл бұрын
they are all cool but the Rankin is just insane i wish it would come back
@ileana_xr
2 жыл бұрын
Yes !!
@warb635
2 жыл бұрын
Ranking the Rankin higher is what they should do ;)
@mistyminnie5922
Жыл бұрын
The rankin is one of the most unbelievable things I've seen. It doesn't look like it should be possible !
@LVXMagick
Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a return to strength, control and creativity in gymnastics...as well as some prettier, more fluid dance movements on floor and beam!
@dilberta6046
11 ай бұрын
Exactly. Prettier and more graceful.
@aoibhinquinn7310
2 жыл бұрын
I think it would be super nice from a choreography perspective to see an acro series connected to the Rankin mount, I think the way it would contrast the pause in the handstand would be really pretty if it could be done well.
@butterfly2604
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed,much of the individuality and personal Style and uniquely rare elements have been removed from current day gymnastics..Maybe they can bring the uneven bars back together and let the Gymnastics just "Go for it"..it's a dangerous sport anyway and the beauty and femininity and dance elements have been simply replaced with difficult tumbling moves.Personally I Love Old School Gymnasts with the Legends.
@wsudance85
2 жыл бұрын
Balance elements should be part of the required skills.
@Margo-oj5yc
2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't so long ago that a balance element with a 2 second hold, such as a scale or handstand, was a requirement.
@wsudance85
2 жыл бұрын
It is called balance beam after all lol. If it were up to me, balance elements and your mount would be counted and required skills.
@wsudance85
2 жыл бұрын
@@hannahwalmer1124 yeah, I was aware of the bonus, but it's still pretty rare to see a D+ mount these days, just like on bars, you're lucky to get anything above an A.
@b0rtie
2 жыл бұрын
@@Margo-oj5yc I believe it was during the 2001-2004 CoP. I think Tim & Elfie mentioned it during the 2001 American Cup, during the beam rotation.
@dilberta6046
10 ай бұрын
I love that first one where the gymnast backflips onto the beam. Gorgeous and amazing!
@Beargeek616
2 жыл бұрын
Love the moceanu mount
@janalove64
2 ай бұрын
My all time favorite!
@KYCyn1066
2 жыл бұрын
I loved watching Oksana Omelianchik's beam and floors because she had so many original moves. Todya's gymnastics is so boring and cookie cutter. Things like the Phillips should be rewarded because it's not another freaking wolf turn.
@KYCyn1066
Жыл бұрын
She was the absolute best gymnast of her time when it came to originality. I loved watching her programs because you never knew what she was going to do and you had to rewind the tape over and over to try to figure out what she was doing.
@barbaram5166
Ай бұрын
I wish I could “like” this a hundred times.
@rebeccamccann8710
Жыл бұрын
I am always amazed by the beauty, strength and flexibility of gymnasts. I can’t imagine the amount of bruises these women endure while mastering such moves! I hurt just watching some of these!
@TheBlueRoseRidesAgain
10 ай бұрын
Li said "let me break my back right quick!"
@kristinmoreno9203
Жыл бұрын
All of these mounts are Amazing! The "Phillips" looks Especially difficult, and appears to only be suited to those gymnasts with an extremely flexible back and flawless Balance💙🌟💙🌟💙🌟💙
@pumpupjam9648
4 ай бұрын
Ogla kurbot's mount on the bars and swing. My favorite. The Li, broke my back watching her do it.
@Paulo-1999
28 күн бұрын
This is awesome! It's so bizarre that they ban or give low points for safe and yet difficult and beautiful moves. They make the sport less than it can be. The strength and creativity of these gymnasts deserve much respect.
@peanutboxes4076
11 ай бұрын
I think athletic pole dancing should be added to the Olympics because it uses so many similar moves to those don’t by the gymnasts in this video. It’s all about strength, stretches, elegance and is actually a very hard sport.
@Juniperwren77
2 жыл бұрын
Back in the day when gymnastics was about strength, flexibility and… you know… gymnastics, rather than tumbling and jumps.
@Idiot_247
Жыл бұрын
It is?????? I’m literally a gymnast what’s your problem
@adriflips808
11 ай бұрын
@@Idiot_247exactly. gymnastics is still about strength and flexibility.
@bdcorgimom
11 ай бұрын
Back in the old days when I did gymnastics the beam was all wood, no padding on it.
@rg1whiteywins598
10 ай бұрын
@@bdcorgimom yup, and we wore little foot socks and grinded our feet in rosin to be able to turn without slipping.
@JS-mg1mk
4 ай бұрын
Tumbling and jumps require strength and flexibility
@objetivista686
2 жыл бұрын
Some of the new rules are so stupid... i was watching some old gymnastics videos in which most of top gymnasts did triple twists, one of the most beautiful skills on floor. Today they are mostly doing double twists. But why?? I think it's because to do a very intrincate skill like a triple twist the gymnast need take a breath on floor corner. I would like to know who are the responsible for making gymnastics a progressively boring, ugly and uninspiring sports??
@wilhelmmeyer89
10 ай бұрын
For average people with no aor no good education in sports this is altogether fantastic. Just imagining an average person jumping towards a beam and them standing in a handstand on one hand is absurd. It takes years of really hard and often painful work and of course besides the physical capabilities the will and the courage to do it again and again and again. For that these girls and women are to be admired.
@minty2741
Жыл бұрын
All of them are absolutely FIRE, but I can't get over The Li. The way she just falls. That looks PAINFUL. I could never do a mount like that!
@aliciamcdonald7105
11 ай бұрын
That RANKIN is INSANE! The powers that be seem not to know how to bring back originality to beam hence the reason why routines are generally not exciting to watch.
@kathybikadi9854
Ай бұрын
Wow, I enjoyed all of these incredible skills!! 😲
@cirnelle83
2 жыл бұрын
woah! The Philip mount is so beautiful 😭
@kennethmazima1736
10 ай бұрын
Rankin God gifted her with that strength and art, it caught my attention
@arfriedman4577
11 ай бұрын
I remember seeing most of these mounts growing up. Nice video.
@canyoubelieve2167
Жыл бұрын
My favorite is the one Dominique Moceanu always did.
@jessicarupe9199
Жыл бұрын
Dominique Moceanu's is a variation on the Daniela Silivas mount, adding an extra turn.
@overcomingobstaclescreates1695
2 ай бұрын
@@jessicarupe9199 Yes, that was said in the video. And the extra full turn makes it look better than Silivas' IMO.
@ejohnson3131
Ай бұрын
I think we need to remember it’s called artistic gymnastics and bring the artistics back. Rather than disjointed acrobatics and tumblings for the sake of a high score!
@Ad-Lo
10 ай бұрын
The Rankin! Wow!
@loodiamexican
10 ай бұрын
The Li looks terrifying.
@vincenttakeda9157
2 жыл бұрын
Love the Rankin. The rest seem physically goofy. Phillips is impressive but it leaves me more uncomfortable than impressed.
@mariaellis2882
2 жыл бұрын
These mounts are more beautiful than that redundant candle mount we always see these days.
@ceribeedle4387
Жыл бұрын
RANKIN... The Strength you have to have not only in your Arms, makes this my Favorite,, its Amazing!!! I really miss my days of Gymnastics Competition; Saturday Compulsory Routines on Sunday Optional Routines... I think it should go back to that 1970/80's.. 12 Years In Gymnastics, Competitions for 10yrs, Then Coached 2yrs.. ... ahhhh..
@RAFAAMARILLAS
2 жыл бұрын
I agree, the COP does not promote anything. All routines are cookie cutter type. 🥴🤢🤮
@easysport11
10 ай бұрын
Awesome. Like it
@jessicaw5437
Жыл бұрын
I like all these mounts but I loved watching the 96 Olympics and seeing Dominique's mount in the clip and the flares I usually see men do on the pommel and the Philips mount is cool too
@antiquemacabre
Ай бұрын
I miss how balletic gymnastics used to be.
@abeiradapraia
Ай бұрын
I know gymnasts train a lot and their skills are to be commended, but it’s like someone started training bodybuilders to do gymnastics.
@testa_brava8803
Жыл бұрын
The Phillips is really beautiful, instead I miss Alexandra's Eremia mount in this video. Thank for making this video.
@neusinhaweber3660
2 ай бұрын
Assistindo do Brasil 🇧🇷 dia 29/07/2024. ❤ o vídeo!!! Lembro de algumas dessas situações na época que ocorreram... Bom recordar! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻😘😘😘
@mitchellsouphasith3763
2 ай бұрын
Khorkina’s mount was pretty cool.
@monicamestas7566
13 күн бұрын
Seems like the sport would embrace variety/diversity, especially those core strength moves.
@ruhsexperimentsgliesperimentid
2 жыл бұрын
The Rankin. Wonderful
@chrissturkenboom6080
7 ай бұрын
It is understandable that certain things disappeared. Due to the fact that they are very dangerous. It is nice and exciting to look at but at later age it can also give disabilities.
@MycAnndee
10 ай бұрын
Hey have you ever checked out 1976 Olympic Team Champion Svetlana Grozdova? She did, for that era, a remarkable beam routine that was "off the charts" in unique and difficult skills. She unfortunately did not medal on beam finals after a fall which is heart wrenching in my opinion.
@Starsurfer1988
2 жыл бұрын
All that pain those girls went through
@Jamiepyt7
Жыл бұрын
My favorite beam mount by far came from Kim Zmeskal 1991-1992
@larisalynnortiz8979
Жыл бұрын
YES!!!
@krista2216
2 жыл бұрын
The Rankin. And not because I'm Canadian, same as she is! 😉
@PrettyandThings
Жыл бұрын
Moceanu's mount is spectacular. My fave by far.
@melbags9789
8 ай бұрын
I'm absolutely gobsmacked that these mounts have been mostly, or altogether discontinued in gymnastics today! they're incredible! and these women are incredible that they're named after. a different time, a different era. nothing ever stays the same. 😔 💕✌
@whatevergoesforme5129
8 ай бұрын
Maybe instead of just two kinds of gymnastics, artistic and rhythmic, create a new one called power gymnastics so we can see the old school type for the artistic gymnastics (that is not that artistic now given the focus on powerful moves and tumbling skills) and what we have now as another category.
@meganchan0529
Жыл бұрын
When the first clip of the Phillips was showed , the girl only used the fingers😮!!!
@cartgamerytcarter5729
11 ай бұрын
That neck thing was wild!!
@diomedesdalde1453
Жыл бұрын
All the five are my favorites: all genius
@evanandheatherjacobs4836
2 жыл бұрын
My favorite mount is the neck stand
@HannahCoziCorner
2 жыл бұрын
Same
@runner2008
Ай бұрын
I hope they start incorporating different techniques. Almost all the beam routines today are identical and quite frankly a little boring. Dont get me wrong, I completely respect the routines today and their difficulty, but each one looks the same except for maybe the dismount. This video shows real originality.
@st.francisxavier-kc9146
Жыл бұрын
PHILLIPS AND RANKIN look amazing.
@charynoy
5 ай бұрын
The greatest mount is the one where they jump on a springboard and somersault onto the beam and land solidly on their feet. Nothing harder than that. All others are mere child's play compared to that mount.
@Alkimor48
9 ай бұрын
Это Великолепно и одновременно некоторые страшные элементы для тела и здоровья.
@cheecheetara
9 ай бұрын
Omgosh! I kind of sucked at gymnastics but I could do the Phillips! I could do a backwalk over on the beam horizontally. I had a weird moment when I got stuck on a giant on bars & my back was extra flexible ever since. My but hit my head. It’s been 30 years but my back is still a bit flexible.
@mdooms76
11 ай бұрын
The Ranken is insane!!❤😮
@lavinialavinia1786
Жыл бұрын
DANIELA Silivas of course! THE BEST ONE!
@ltlt3477
Ай бұрын
I was watching older womens' floor routines, and they were so beautiful back then. Today it seems it's just tumbling, height, and power.
@saragrant9749
Жыл бұрын
Some of these make my back cry uncle!!
@sandrakuca1192
10 ай бұрын
I much more like vintage gymnastic than today qimnastic. Today it's all about tumbling, there's no more flare, balance, femininity, variaty. But it's me.
@BoX-b3x
2 жыл бұрын
You should add Alexandra Eremia beam mount
@kimwaddell4218
Жыл бұрын
What flexibility these moves take
@Hedgehogsinthemist123
2 жыл бұрын
Gymnastics is so boring to watch now. There’s no variation anymore and no grace.
@JB-sg1vy
2 жыл бұрын
agree
@JB-sg1vy
2 жыл бұрын
Kristie Phillips. One of my fav ever!
@olatokunboolufolakekadiri2205
Жыл бұрын
Th Nick is crazy, but I respect that she can pull it off. I won't try it though
@mbhog8490
7 ай бұрын
judges dont like to see new moves because there is nothing to compare it to, so its difficult to score. there should be more scoring for artistic and originality, not just technical ability.
@rjr6912
10 ай бұрын
Guh that last one may as well be called the "Back-breaker"..... that can't be good for you...
@dilberta6046
11 ай бұрын
I personally think gymnastics have been tailored around the young woman they want to see win. Not around grace and artistry as much.
@shari7906
Жыл бұрын
The shushanova was frowned upon .in those days new moves were not encouraged
@Tom-The-Gymnast
2 жыл бұрын
I am a gymnast and I post some stuff on my channel, but this stuff is crazy 💪
@user-dd5eh5lu3o
7 ай бұрын
Check out variation silivas did on her own mount as of 1989 worlds.
@Constantin9va
2 жыл бұрын
Any hand stand mommy should be a G. An E AT LEAST!
@lulub1433
2 жыл бұрын
These mounts are not seen any more because "control and strength" are outdated. Proceeds to show some of the most beautiful beam mounts: Phillips and Rankin. 😭
@TheFlowMind
2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile, we get wolf turn everywhere...
@antoniomarcos5321
10 ай бұрын
I like all of them, except for the last one, which looks too dangerous for the athlete's back.
@maryvallettakeith6146
Ай бұрын
The neck stand mount is....disturbing.
@ollieenger1424
11 ай бұрын
The split leap mount is my least favorite beam mount.
@IrishTexan09
Жыл бұрын
I would much rather see this elegance!
@zsong9600
Жыл бұрын
I miss the mounts they used to do and feel like in some ways gymnastics has gotten kind of predictable and boring.
@h.p.lovecats7422
8 ай бұрын
3:16. That's Li Li shown doing the skill which carries her name, not Li Yifang.
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