I have a lot of old stuff like this, I have had a VCR since 1983 and recorded tons of sports among other things; will be posting more soon.
@hoss73ford
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taping this almost 33 years ago. A valuable piece of history that might otherwise be lost.
@georgeharleydavidsonrider156
5 жыл бұрын
belcherman Please do . Thanks Brother.
@w41duvernay
5 жыл бұрын
Ah, the old tv 80's tech. Before Sportscenter, we had George Micheal's Sportsmachine.
@BlueLineKing7
3 жыл бұрын
Do you by chance have the last Colts home game in 83 vs Oilers?
@howard1852
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks old man
@nocturnalmayhem0
4 жыл бұрын
how does this not have more views this is a f'in gem of history, amazing upload
@DavidZetino
Жыл бұрын
Cause only US cares about it
@adamdorgant9454
Жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same thing!!!
@appalachianenthusiast9499
Жыл бұрын
Baltimore's "offer" was eminent domain, no wonder Irsay got out of town
@arthurhall8238
2 ай бұрын
@@appalachianenthusiast9499 umm...that wasn't the offer moron
@rockvilleraven
5 жыл бұрын
Ironically enough, as part of Indianapolis deal, the city gave him 10 years of guaranteed sellouts which meant he wasn’t forced to put a winner there.
@4lifeReagan
6 жыл бұрын
Love this piece of history, thanks for posting!!!
@adamdorgant9454
2 жыл бұрын
You’re right about that!!
@27273100
2 жыл бұрын
I can *NEVER* forget that. Like Modell, Irsay was in the crosshairs of angry fans' wrath. Both will always be on the side of infamy.
@lonniestephens6254
2 жыл бұрын
What Bob Irsay did to the people of Baltimore, MD was unforgiving!
@1notredamefightingirishfan12
Жыл бұрын
@@lonniestephens6254 I would've done that too
@paulmicheldenverco1
Жыл бұрын
@@lonniestephens6254 What would you'd expect from anybody who is under threat of having one's business seized.
@ZakBeach-j4b
2 ай бұрын
@@lonniestephens6254 he did everything he could to stay, all you had to do was build a stadium and theyd still be there
@jimdruckenmiller8731
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! This is a rare glimpse at a strange episode in nfl history.
@MrTommyg024
7 жыл бұрын
As a Sonics fan from Seattle, I unfortunately can relate to the pain and betrayal Colts fans felt back in '84. I'm glad Baltimore eventually got a football team back though.
@fundude4566
7 жыл бұрын
MrTommyg024 Seattle deserves a nba team and a NHL team
@MrTommyg024
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I sincerely appreciate that comment.
@MGAF688
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but Baltimore benefited from Cleveland's loss. That said, Seattle needs both the NBA and NHL. Seattle is a large populated area that can support 4 pro teams.
@johnnyfive222
5 жыл бұрын
Montana Roots You are acting like it's Baltimore fans fucking fault. It's the NFL' fault all of it. They didn't allow Baltimore to have an expansion they were to lazy to make another team so they gave them the browns. There were a lot of Colts fans in Baltimore that felt bad about that. It took the joy out of them in gaining a team back. Don't act like the fans were hypocrites. At least you kept the damn colors and name. Baltimore didn't get that.
@44style1
5 жыл бұрын
Shawn Kemp!!!
@doolindanger2459
5 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, play in a dump with empty seats in a city trying to take the team away from you by imminent domain - OR - move to a city with a brand new stadium offering you a 20 year free lease. Gee, I can't imagine why the Colts moved.
@adamdorgant9454
5 жыл бұрын
Doolin Danger Looking back on it now, Baltimore Deserved to lose the Colts, and why, the City of Baltimore no longer supported the team, and also, the City of Baltimore was Stupid enough not to built a new Stadium for the Colts!!!
@rockvilleraven
5 жыл бұрын
Doolin Danger Or why a city who loses two baseball teams like Washington, takes one from a Canadian city like Montreal and wins the World Series.
@robkrieg8301
4 жыл бұрын
I think they should be paying for their own stadiums, fucking billionaires asking for handouts is sickening, hell the taxpayers in st louis are stuck with the bill for their stadium while the rams moved on to siphon tax dollars off of LA.
@bluerisk
4 жыл бұрын
@@robkrieg8301 How, if the legislation blocks it?! "During the 1974 elections, Pressman had an amendment to the city's charter placed on the fall ballot. Known as Question P, the amendment called for declaring "the 33rd Street stadium as a memorial to war veterans and prohibiting use of city funds for construction of any other stadium." The measure passed 56 percent to 44 percent, and the same political motivations that had been used to upgrade Baltimore Stadium, originally built in 1922, in the late 1940s and rename it Memorial Stadium, effectively destroyed any chance of a new, modern sports complex being built in Baltimore."
@robkrieg8301
4 жыл бұрын
@@bluerisk that blocked any chance of the tax payers footing the bill, it has nothing to do with them paying for their own stadium. On top of the fact that Indianapolis had to foot the bill since baltinore wouldnt. Tell me how that refutes anything I said? And Baltimore isn't the only case of this bullshit, why cant all those billionaire pay for their own stadiums?
@marcodiaz6thman252
Жыл бұрын
Irsay was really a trend setter for today's NFL owners "You build me a new venue or I'm going somewhere else"
@geraldvanhees779
Жыл бұрын
Corporate welfare!!!!!
@johneddy908
Жыл бұрын
I think it's time for Colts fans to say these words to Jim Irsay - SELL THE TEAM!
@adamdorgant9454
Жыл бұрын
True!!!
@zerimar26
Жыл бұрын
Actually it was Al Davis.
@ZakBeach-j4b
2 ай бұрын
any city that doesn understand that the windfall they receive from an NFL team compared to the price of a stadium deserves to lose their NFL team
@joshowenby6408
5 жыл бұрын
It's been almost 35 years now & I STILL cannot get used to saying "Indianapolis Colts."
@cellmate1
3 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry. We will say it for you.
@arthurhall8238
3 жыл бұрын
@@cellmate1 - Please do...best thing to happen to Baltimore...we have 2 SBs...
@cellmate1
3 жыл бұрын
@@arthurhall8238 yes you did. And you did it with the team you took from Cleveland
@arthurhall8238
3 жыл бұрын
@@cellmate1 -um no....INCORRECT. The team that came from Cleveland was in cap hell...so much so that the team couldn't even afford a taxi squad. AND the team was horrible the first 3 years in Baltimore..we had to get rid of most of the horrible players before we were even competitive...so, no, sorry...WRONG
@HouseWashingRick
2 жыл бұрын
@@cellmate1 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@christopherdonaldson7484
4 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind the Orioles in 1983 just won the World Series. Jim Palmer's last in his career and had been part of all three titles (1966, 1970, 1983) and the beginning of The Iron Man (Cal Ripken Jr)
@ryanammari7420
3 жыл бұрын
1983 was also the year Brooks Robinson was elected to the HOF.
@Russ_Hoops
5 жыл бұрын
I grew up in Maryland but was never a Colts fan. However I remember that night well. IIRC the only reason the Colts were caught trying to sneak out was because of reporter was driving home from work, took a detour and saw the steam from the trucks and the lights on in the building.
@ZakBeach-j4b
2 ай бұрын
Urban Legend, the Colts' video equipment was privately owned. He waited til the last second but Irsay had to notify the owner, a lifelong colts fan, of the move and that he had to get his equipment. THat person immediately notified the press.
@alexanderarce3341
5 жыл бұрын
It was a very good kept secret to keep their move quiet, but it won't work today to 24-7 social media cycle.
@VV_PaVria
5 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't really matter too much. The reason the Colts had to move overnight was because they were racing to go before the Maryland congress could vote to stop them from moving.
@RichV20
8 ай бұрын
@@VV_PaVria They wanted to leave in the middle of the night before anyone knew and Maryland State Troopers would stop the trucks.
@johncaparulo4800
5 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how much more sympathetic Indianapolis seemed to be toward Baltimore than Baltimore would be just 11 years later toward Cleveland.
@redpillfreedom6692
3 жыл бұрын
Well except for that lady who said "Too bad"
@gsmscooter22
Жыл бұрын
Because we are good people in Indy
@mattgrey7575
3 жыл бұрын
I’ll never forget seeing Irsay on tv saying “It’s not your team, It’s my team.” That about says it all.
@gabrielguzman6018
2 жыл бұрын
At least he was honest unlike modell who lied
@1990Thunderbolt
2 жыл бұрын
@@gabrielguzman6018 what was the difference between irsay and modell?
@adamdorgant9454
Жыл бұрын
@@1990Thunderbolt I was about to ask the same thing!!!
@stankbox
9 ай бұрын
Probably not much. @@adamdorgant9454
@arread14
3 ай бұрын
He's not wrong, sucks but true.
@noahf342
5 жыл бұрын
thanks for posting this video. Agreed, Baltimore should have been able to retain the name and history.
@doolindanger2459
5 жыл бұрын
That's insane. The city did not own them, the Irsays did. Pro Football is a business. If McDonalds moves their headquarters to another city, they don't change their name or history. The Dodgers, Lakers, Giants, Cardinals, Rams, etc. etc. etc. didn't leave their names and history behind. - it's ridiculous. ONLY Baltimore has cried about this bullshit. Get over it.
@t.c.thompson2359
5 жыл бұрын
No franchise has ever left the name behind without being forced to.
@27273100
2 жыл бұрын
I hear you because the Browns had fought like pitbulls to get the name back. It was one hell of a fight.
@notredameandcoltsfan
Жыл бұрын
Why? The city did not own them. The owner makes the decisions
@notredamecoltsfan
7 ай бұрын
How about San Diego keeping the Chargers name/history and Oakland keeping the Raiders name/history? How come no one talks about that?
@splashnskillz37
5 жыл бұрын
Good thing it all had a happy ending for Baltimore/Indianapolis/Cleveland Seattle on the other hand
@dakotachenoa474
5 жыл бұрын
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@johnnyroberts3761
4 жыл бұрын
Not sure you can say Cleveland has had a happy ending. If anything, they’ve suffered worse than Baltimore
@randomtraveler9854
3 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyroberts3761 How? Cleveland has their name and entire history. They were guaranteed a team a few years later. Baltimore lost everything and had to start all over like they never had a team, and had to wait 12 years without a guarantee for a new team.
@stephenholloway6893
2 жыл бұрын
True Cleveland got their team history and a new team but to be fair the Browns rarely had been good since they returned. Yes Seattle still haven't has a NBA team since the SuperSonics moved yet but eventually they will.
@rockvilleraven
Ай бұрын
The old Colts Complex is still standing, it houses the athletic facilities for Division 3 Stevenson University.
@BtownFlyer
7 жыл бұрын
Simple. Don't try to seize a man's personal business via eminent domain. Baltimore forced Irsay to move the team or lose it.
@hoss73ford
7 жыл бұрын
Yep, eminent domain amounts to stealing.
@EnjoyLifeNow24
7 жыл бұрын
I agree, that's communism.
@charlesshettle1313
6 жыл бұрын
WRONG. Try educating yourself on the details. Irsay bought the Colts from Rosenbloom, and ran the team into the ground. He alienated the fans . He was considered the worst owner in sports. He was going to move the team regardless. He was shopping the team to cities desperate to get into the NFL>Eminent Domain was a last ditch effort to stop the inevitable move.
@LegalAmerican4
6 жыл бұрын
Blue Skeptic trapping him? Cities shouldn't raise taxes to pay for sports stadiums for billionaires. I'm a die hard sports fan and even I see the economic idiocy there
@YourLocalRealist
6 жыл бұрын
Charles Shettle ...actually, Irsay was allowed to acquire the Rams in a behind the scenes deal that cut the legs out from under Hugh Culverhouse. Then the NFL allowed Irsay & Rosenbloom to swap franchises. Culverhouse threatened to sue the NFL and was awarded the Tampa franchise to make up for it.
@JoseTwitterFan
2 жыл бұрын
This is why Mayflower is the least popular moving company in Baltimore.
@ZakBeach-j4b
2 ай бұрын
I think "america's most trusted moving company" is doing just fine
@LBlucher13
2 ай бұрын
I have needed a moving company about ten times since then, but refused to even consider Mayflower. I'm sure they didn't give a crap, but it's a few thousand dollars of my money they didn't get.
@44style1
5 жыл бұрын
Being a life-long Denver Broncos fan and native, I would be devastated. Thank goodness for the success of the Ravens. Them Irsays are crazy. Glad Elway didn't want to play for them.
@akeme25
4 жыл бұрын
As a Broncos fan myself, I am VERY glad that Irsay was incompetent enough for John Elway to not want to play for him. It was sad Baltimore fans though.
@adamdorgant9454
3 жыл бұрын
Reading about it now, Baltimore Deserved to Lose the Colts, and why, The City of Baltimore no longer supported the team, and also, Because Baltimore was Stupid enough not build a new stadium for the Colts, no wonder they moved to Indianapolis!!!!
@mrg8581
2 жыл бұрын
@@adamdorgant9454 Why should cities build sports stadiums for billionaire owners? Especially stadiums that only last 25 or 30 years. Indianapolis built Hoosier Dome in 1984. That stadium is long gone. Irsay ruined the Baltimore Colts franchise. They were one of the worst teams in the NFL from 1978 through 1983. No wonder the fans there stopped going to the games! Baltimore wasn't Detroit. In Detroit, Lions continue to sell out Ford Field despite Lions being one of the worst NFL teams year after year.🙄
@CynicalCharlatan88
2 жыл бұрын
@@mrg8581 the city of Baltimore owned the stadium and the colts and orioles paid rent to play there. Explain why they should be obligated to stay in that dump stadium when their land lord refuses to renovate it? Also they weren’t billionaires in the 80s in fact the Hoosier dome cost 77 million to build. NFL teams cost less than that back then.
@mrg8581
2 жыл бұрын
@@CynicalCharlatan88 If Memorial Stadium was such a dump, then the team owners should never have signed a lease to play there in the first place. And 77 million dollars to build the Hoosier Dome in 1984 would be over 200 million in 2021 dollars. A lot of money to spend on a stadium that the Colts played for only 24 seasons.
@richardhenckel9406
7 жыл бұрын
Wish we could've kept the history and name atleast
@hotwax9376
7 жыл бұрын
I'm a Cowboys fan and I have to agree with you. Baltimore should've been able to keep the Colts history and name, given that it had specific geographical implications. Maybe someday, the Colts history and intellectual property will be handed back to the Ravens and the Indianapolis team will change its name. I certainly hope it does.
@bobscott7440
7 жыл бұрын
HotWax93 would be nice however don't think it's going to happen. I heard one time that Robert Irsay wanted to hang Johnny Unitas' jersey from the roof of the Hoosier Dome in Indianapolis.
@HeavyJ713
6 жыл бұрын
Nic Van when the oilers left this city wanted nothing to do with them in fact alot of people where happy Bud Adams was gone
@bobscott7440
6 жыл бұрын
Nic Van Yeah the eminent domain claim was just plain stupid on the part of the politicians of Baltimore.
@lowdown4651
6 жыл бұрын
You nailed it iv always believed that , now whiskey bob's son get busted go's to rehab real class team.
@adamdorgant9454
7 жыл бұрын
Hard to believe it's been 32 years since the Colts moved to Indianapolis!!!!
@belcherman
7 жыл бұрын
I recorded this live in 1984............. i hate the dam dvd to vhs burn seems audio is off; will work on a better copy. I have like 1500 VHS to do lol; i have so many memories to go through.
@hoss73ford
7 жыл бұрын
No biggy, still a good copy. I've done a lot of VHS to DVD transfers & never had a case of lips being out of synch like that.
@rockvilleraven
5 жыл бұрын
Ironically enough on the exact same date in 1996, Art Modell renames his franchise the Baltimore Ravens
@adamdorgant9454
5 жыл бұрын
belcherman Good to know!!!
@t.c.thompson2359
5 жыл бұрын
@@rockvilleraven you do know he tried to keep the Browns name right?
@theeditorialsuite1070
5 жыл бұрын
"Too bad." Ouch.
@adamdorgant9454
3 жыл бұрын
Because Baltimore was Stupid enough not to build a new stadium for the Colts!!!!
@paulgerczak4332
3 жыл бұрын
They were threatening to leave over 4 years the city did nothing to make things better. They had to pay the Orioles rent and share their revenue with them and the Orioles didn't have to share nothing with the Colts. I don't blame them for leaving at all the city had time to make things better and they didn't so the Colts left.
@stevep8445
6 жыл бұрын
They had to "sneak out of town" because they got win that the team was going to be seized
@michaelleroy9281
4 жыл бұрын
Oakland was going to the same with Raiders 1981-82
@majorfaulking4427
3 жыл бұрын
Try and take my business and I'd move middle of the night to. You ran them out of town
@theendofanerror4173
3 жыл бұрын
@@majorfaulking4427 "I have not any intention of moving the g-d team. If I did, I would tell you about it. Okay?" - Bob Irsay Are you a drunk as well with a goldfish memory?
@coolsvillesucks1798
5 жыл бұрын
Baltimore and Cleveland share one thing in common, they both had heartbreaking relocations. But the difference between them is that Baltimore was nice enough to give Cleveland their history and name back, but Baltimore didn't get the same treatment. Indianapolis rarely, if ever, acknowledges their past and it's sad if you ask me. If Peyton Manning was never drafted by the Indianapolis Colts they would have been one of the most irrelevant, unsuccessful franchises in NFL history. The city of Baltimore definitely made the Ravens their own, but deep down I think lots of older fans wish they had just been the Colts the whole time. Johnny Unitas is a football legend and he was the face of that city, arguably that entire state too and he sounded the most disappointed by that whole scandal.
@ErickGainesSanders
5 жыл бұрын
Not quite. We had to sue the League and Baltimore for that. Everything was slated to go. EVERYTHING. While those overbreeding defiling thieves have two trophies built on our blood, sweat & tears, all we have are 20 years--TWENTY YEARS--of agony, shame and disappointment. We will NEVER forgive this. EVER.
@coolsvillesucks1798
5 жыл бұрын
It's a completely messed up situation, Cleveland never got any sort of redemption for what happened either. If there is any team in pro sports that deserves a championship, it's the Browns.
@arthurhall8238
3 жыл бұрын
@@ErickGainesSanders - you are seriously dellusional
@TheFallingFlamingo
2 жыл бұрын
If the state had built a new stadium, instead of trying to sieze control of a private citizens property, like they'd promised Baltimore would still have the Colts. I'm sure the Colts would rather just pretend it never happened and that they were in Indiana from inception, where they have top tier facilities, raving fans, and plenty of money. After all, people tend to forget that the team snuck to the border of Maryland in the dead of night, out of fear of being arrested by Maryland State Police, and were escorted by Indiana State Police to their new home in Indianapolis.
@stevensuarez4843
2 жыл бұрын
Well one thing Baltimore has that Cleveland doesn't.... 2 Super bowl titles!
@Dan97LHS
5 жыл бұрын
And yet eleven and a half years later, they accepted a deal to take someone else's team from them. Who knows how things would be different if the Colts had stayed in Baltimore? Perhaps, if they had left the history of the Colts and the name in Baltimore, there wouldn't be a Ravens franchise there.
@trishmartin7420
6 жыл бұрын
at least you got the ravens
@MGAF688
3 жыл бұрын
"I have not any intention of moving the g-d team. If I did, I would tell you about it. Okay?" - Bob Irsay
@ZakBeach-j4b
2 ай бұрын
Almost as if stuff changes when a city refuses to build a stadium and threatens eminent domain
@matthewscott8692
5 жыл бұрын
Indianapolis Colts fan here. I definitely understand the hatred the people of Baltimore feel for Robert Irsay. The guy was a drunk and was a garbage owner who never put a good team on the field here in Indy. When he died his son took over and hired the right people and got out of the way for the most part. I also feel the Colts name should have stayed in Baltimore. But, government officials in Baltimore are partially to blame for the Colts leaving. Memorial Stadium was falling apart for years and the previous Colts owner tried to negotiate with the city. He got sick of dealing with it and traded the Colts for the Rams. I think Irsay did Baltimore dirty with HOW he moved the team but Baltimore could have prevented this from happening and a lot of the comments here don't mention that at all 🤔
@ZakBeach-j4b
2 ай бұрын
Youre no Indianapolis Colts fan. Go away
@michaelleroy9281
4 жыл бұрын
Memorial Stadium was turning into a dump should be glad Orioles didn't leave town also
@rockvilleraven
3 жыл бұрын
O's Owner Edward Bennett Williams only signed 1 year leases until the Camden Yards Stadium project passed.
@halblow448
3 жыл бұрын
It also had a parking lot from Hell.
@arthurhall8238
3 жыл бұрын
I wish they had...we would have gotten an expansion team or a new team with a decent owner...
@michaelleroy9281
5 ай бұрын
@@arthurhall8238What team really likes it's owner? at the end of the day it's business
@arthurhall8238
5 ай бұрын
@@michaelleroy9281 umm..a lot of them do...great excuse
@chrisgreen2941
5 жыл бұрын
I remember when this happened, I'll still take the Ravens, we had to lose in order to gain.
@ZakBeach-j4b
2 ай бұрын
5 NFL Championships vs your 1. Grats?
@randomtraveler9854
6 жыл бұрын
I'm a Baltimore fan(from Pennsylvania) but get your facts straight. The move was 20 years in the making. Both the Orioles and Colts were disguised with Memorial Stadium as far back as the 60's. When Baltimore became aware of the complaints they proposed to build a multipurpose dome similar to the Astrodome in Houston, down where the current stadiums are now. However they soon withdrew the plan on the excuse that they didn't have the money and wouldn't replace what they considered a memorial to fallen soldiers (facade of Memorial Stadium) A 1972 study of Memorial Stadium sided with the owners. No skyboxes, obstructed views, poor location, poor plumbing, parking and concessions under control of the Orioles even for Colts games, the 2 p.m. kickoffs, and the horseshoe shaped bowl (took fans sitting on the 50 yard line away from the action) were among issues addressed. Yet Baltimore made little, if any effort, to remodel and upgrade the stadium. Threats of relocation came from both the Colts and Orioles shortly after this with the Colts being sold to Robert Irsay in 1972 and the Orioles to Edward Williams in 1979. Talks between the owners and the city produced little results and never mentioned a new stadium for either team. Even in 1984 the mayor made it known a new stadium wasn't going to be built. Once the Colts left the fear of the Orioles relocating to Washington D.C. (where Williams had his law office) became very real and the need for a new stadium to save the Orioles became a top priority. Even then Annapolis was slow to pass a bill to fund a stadium. It was only the smart thinking of the Colts marching band playing at the State House that the new stadium, now known as Camden Yards, passed. Baltimore treated the owners like crap and paid the price. Not siding with the Colts but holding Baltimore responsible for their actions. They're lucky they have teams today.
@robkrieg8301
4 жыл бұрын
So they treated the owners like crap by not having the taxpayers foot the bill on a stadium for a couple billionaires? Why didnt they offer to pay when baltinore said it didnt have the cash? Huh? Seems like they tried to treat the taxpayers like shit not the other way around.
@michaelleroy9281
4 жыл бұрын
Colts leaving helped Oriole Park at Camden Yards buiit
@hellman9655
3 жыл бұрын
@@robkrieg8301 you missed the part where he said the city did nothing to address complaints over Memorial Stadium. It was a very flawed stadium and obsolete as early as the 60s. As far as Irsay, he's trash. Stolen valor.
@robkrieg8301
3 жыл бұрын
@@hellman9655 you must not have read my comment correctly. I never said memorial stadium wasn't a bad stadium nor did I say the city tried to cooperate for a new stadium. I want someone to explain to me why the taxpayers of the city should pay for a billionaires stadium? Look at St. louis still paying off a stadium they got stuck with after the taxpayers got hosed and now they have a big empty useless stadium with years left of payments to go and the team still left. Is it abnormal to ask billionaires to pay their own way?
@hellman9655
3 жыл бұрын
@@robkrieg8301 there's the way things are and the way they should be. Run for office and be the change you're looking for.
@michaelleroy9281
4 жыл бұрын
The rumors of the Colts leaving town started in 1979
@ZakBeach-j4b
2 ай бұрын
1972 really, thats how long Baltimore had to invest in their team
@Justin-Hill-1987
4 жыл бұрын
The Cleveland Browns moved to Baltimore in 1995, where they changed their name to the Baltimore Ravens. The Browns returned to Cleveland as an expansion team in 1999.
@TL2354
2 жыл бұрын
Liar
@gabrielguzman6018
2 жыл бұрын
99
@FAITHandLOGIC
7 жыл бұрын
Isn't it interesting that both of Baltimore's teams were once called the Browns?
@colonelrobertsjr.7882
6 жыл бұрын
FAITHandLOGIC That was very ironic lol
@MGAF688
6 жыл бұрын
Never thought of that but true.
@andrewschulzsd
6 жыл бұрын
Chargers move equally as bad, only they went to a rival sports city of San Diego, LA to become a SECOND TEAM.
@jcueto75
5 жыл бұрын
2nd team LA don't even want them no matter how good they are, Raiders and Cowboys are more popular in LA than even the Rams.
@NinjaDog9123
5 жыл бұрын
Andrew Schulz I think the Colts move was worse because at least the Chargers didn’t leave the state of California and LA is only 2 hours away from San Diego.
@theproffesir
5 жыл бұрын
Nothing is equally as bad as leaving in the middle of the night
@John-tr6of
4 жыл бұрын
@@NinjaDog9123 Yeah, but you can't replace what the franchise meant to the city.
@NinjaDog9123
4 жыл бұрын
WTA Statman John true. At least Baltimore actually got a new team back. San Diego might get a new team back in the future.
@johnziemann5133
4 жыл бұрын
The colts left by the cover of darkness.....The Colts' Band proceeded by the light of day.
@belcherman
7 жыл бұрын
4 dislikes wtf im uploading a new in sync audio version shortly .......
@ZakBeach-j4b
2 ай бұрын
still waiting
@IAmMisterTterevel
7 жыл бұрын
Well, Baltimore. You First Rejected Irsay's Demand for a New Stadium and then passed a Measure denying that chance, You then tried to Take the Colts Away from Irsay which forced him to make the move to Indianpolis. If You Hadn't Screwed Over Your Own Damn Team and Just Gave Them a New Stadium and Not Threaten to Take That Team Away, I'll Betcha The Colts would still be in Baltimore. But Hey You've Learned and Got the Ravens (Although You Had To Take That Team From Cleveland).
@edstylc2441
7 жыл бұрын
Much more complicated than that.
@IAmMisterTterevel
7 жыл бұрын
Ed Stylc how?
@edstylc2441
7 жыл бұрын
12 years tearing apart a team and fielding one of the league's worst defenses ever. 0-8-1 and 2-14 seasons. Trading away Johnny Unitas, Irsay calling plays from the press box. It was a joke. Do not get me wrong, the Maryland state government also dropped the ball, but Irsay was a crummy owner who shopped around the franchise playing pre-season games in Phoenix and Jacksonville. I lived through it and am well versed on this. The city of Baltimore also takes some blame for the 2pm starts to accommodate local churches in the residential area where Memorial Stadium was located.
@IAmMisterTterevel
7 жыл бұрын
Ed Stylc And Don't Forget The Colts Passed On Elway to the Broncos after he refused to play with them...
@edstylc2441
7 жыл бұрын
There was that as well. Agreed. Had they waited Elway out he would have signed eventually.
@goodvibes4459
Жыл бұрын
There is a good doc on Disney plus about the move. And the colts band getting screwed. But yeah. The colts were cowards for leaving like they did. Especially over night with out giving the town any notice. The Band was lucky to get there uniforms back because they were at the cleaners lol. So they hid them in a cemetery and hid them in a mausoleum. Lol. Later on the Baltimore Ravens were nice enough to allow the band to play for them all these years later. They got new uniforms and everything.
@Ducksfan76
3 жыл бұрын
Johnny unitas said it perfectly
@tgfabthunderbird1
Жыл бұрын
A tragedy, sponsored by Toyota. Somehow, that fits. I remember well watching on TV in New England the Mayflower trucks trying to sneak out of the headquarters in the middle of the night. We couldn't believe it, but then we remembered who the owner was.
@cadillac4100
Жыл бұрын
As much as i loved the Baltimore Colts. They were playing in an outdated relic of a stadium. The City of Baltimore & The State of Maryland representatives thought Irsay was talking out his rear end. Well that swift kick in the rear was Irsay's midnight exodus. Yes it was sad what he did. But it took that painful lesson to bring Camden Yards to existence .
@maddesi2709
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting! I never knew that Irsay was the previous most despicable sports team owner in the area.
@belcherman
7 жыл бұрын
Got another one coming soon related to this one; just have to VHSrip it. It is when the Browns come to Baltimore and It was around 1995; I will post that soon. I also have uploaded the team we had in the CFL at the time "The Baltimore Stallions" winning the Gray Cup here: kzitem.info/news/bejne/0q1rr2d6j6WrqoI With the Baltimore Colts gone and no NFL football team, Baltimore got a CFL football team named the Stallions in 1994. The team played only two years but won the CFL equivalent of the SUPER BOWL in both seasons. Once the Browns were moving to Baltimore; the team was disbanded. The Baltimore Stallions were a Canadian Football League team based in Baltimore, Maryland, in the United States, which played the 1994 and 1995 seasons. Owner: Jim Speros Head coach: Don Matthews Location: Baltimore, MD Founded: 1994 Home field: Memorial Stadium Color: Royal blue, silver, black and white
@claylyons6447
Ай бұрын
John Elway wouldn't play for the Colts. Irsay was a lunatic.
@michaelleroy9281
14 сағат бұрын
And one year later they were gone
@1300mikehoward
2 жыл бұрын
Worse than the Colts leaving, local politics closed my recreation center in North West Baltimore in the early 1980s.
@hitdawg64
3 жыл бұрын
17:25. That's a damn cool t shirt for 1983. I didn't even know Logo 7 was around way back then.
@JayDogTitan
6 жыл бұрын
Of all relocation, this was the worst. Baltimore Colts should still exist.
@muttley8818
5 жыл бұрын
They do. They're just called the Indianapolis Colts instead. And at least Baltimore ended up with the Ravens, who have been more successful than the Indy Colts. At the expense of the original Browns of course, but you see my point. This should have been done with an announcement, but can't blame the relocation though. Memorial Stadium was falling apart and the city was cheap and wouldn't dig into their pockets for a new stadium or any serious renovation. Irsay had no choice. Baltimore is lucky they still have the O's for the same reason.
@notredameandcoltsfan
Жыл бұрын
Not anymore
@anthonylopresti3078
2 жыл бұрын
Wait a sec, America once actually made t shirts?? Damn
@therealmaskedheel
6 жыл бұрын
Baltimore had the last laugh, though. Baltimore has won two Super Bowls since then and the Colts only won one.
@AutoRacer5
6 жыл бұрын
Cleveland was guaranteed a franchise by the NFL within a few years with their original colors and history. The city of Baltimore had no such guarantee.
@halblow448
6 жыл бұрын
@Montana Roots Cleveland was also able to keep their name and history (from Otto Graham to Vinny Testaverde). All those Colts players and championships won in Baltimore are recognized in the Hall of Fame as Indianapolis. That is the real difference. Cleveland's legacy was left intact as opposed to Baltimore, which was ripped away and perverted. As fast as the team left Cleveland, Tagliabue insured them a new team. Baltimore was lied to and teased for 11 yrs before it got a team with Tagliabue only proposing a museum. I'm sorry the Browns have not lived up to previous frachise's standards, but that really is the current Brown's fault alone. The league can't win the games for them. The Raven's Super Bowls are Baltimore's alone with MVPs in each never playing a game as a Brown. Cleveland is more a coddled child that really doesn't realize how good they have it, while Baltimore's the neglected child that's had to fight for everything it has.
@willt2810
5 жыл бұрын
Baltimore was in the wrong for this one. They were trying to take the team away from the owner.
@johnsonwaite9865
5 жыл бұрын
Don't forget we beat them on our way to winning our 2nd Super Bowl!
@brianemanuel576
5 жыл бұрын
The Masked Heel Baltimore wouldn't even exist if it weren't for the Browns
@daboys1215
6 жыл бұрын
Most disgusting move in sports history. Sneaking out in the middle of the night. I always knew that Bob Irsay was a coward.
@enterzone263
4 жыл бұрын
Cry me a river.....
@redpillfreedom6692
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe but the fact is the city basically put a gun to his head. They brought this on themselves.
@whataboutrob442
22 күн бұрын
@@redpillfreedom6692he was still a coward
@johncaparulo4800
7 жыл бұрын
The fans of Baltimore seem to vividly remember the pain of losing the Colts, but they don't appear to have any problem with the way they acquired the Ravens. That really says a lot about people way beyond pro football. It says that they're hopelessly terrible. Nice.
@GeoGuy388
7 жыл бұрын
They also had no problem with their owners cock-blocking baseball from coming back to D.C. for decades. Scumbag Baltimorons.
@bobscott7440
7 жыл бұрын
John Caparulo What were they supposed to do? You act as though the fans of Baltimore were responsible for the Browns leaving Cleveland.
@edfischbach2601
7 жыл бұрын
But the Browns still have their history still have their name they took our team took the history took the name took the horseshoe need say more.
@ibleedblackandpurple8168
7 жыл бұрын
Ed fischbach preech!
@rmh941
7 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for Cleveland fans as a Baltimore sports fan, but the baltimore move is still much worse cause the team just took off and left and took our name (which has a Baltimore inspiration), our records and championships.
@oscarruiz7485
5 жыл бұрын
Charger fan here I feel the pain.
@georgeharleydavidsonrider156
5 жыл бұрын
Oscar Ruiz Sorry for your loss Brother. I was 21 when the Colts Left . I am still angry. I remember the Dan Fouts days with the Chargers .
@whataboutrob442
22 күн бұрын
@@georgeharleydavidsonrider156I hate the Indianapolis Colts
@michaelrmcornejo
Жыл бұрын
what baffles me is the nerve of Indianapolis to keep the Colts name.
@arread14
3 ай бұрын
Irsay earned it, but yeah, it should've stayed in Baltimore.
@robertmurdock1848
2 ай бұрын
It was common practice to keep names and logos when teams relocated. Dodgers, Lakers , Giants , Cardinals, Raiders, Braves , Chargers , and Rams all moved and kept their names. Usually only teams changed names when they had only been in a city a short period of time. Seattle Pilots and Dallas Texans for example. Seattle Supersonics to Oklahoma City Thunder and Oilers to Titans being exceptions.
@CO84trucker
Жыл бұрын
28:17 dayum.... The news outlets would be under heavy fire for using that R word if the Colts move happened in the 2000s onward!
@stankbox
9 ай бұрын
Yeah, wow. That sounds bad, even for then to me.
@FlukeDogg08
6 ай бұрын
40 years of Indianapolis Colts
@ZakBeach-j4b
2 ай бұрын
longer than Baltimore Colts
@whataboutrob442
22 күн бұрын
What happened to Jim Irsay? I heard some crazy rumors
@truthgolden938
4 жыл бұрын
Man! I theses nos·tal·gia jiggles music intro from baltimore channel 2 back in the late 80's!😂😂😂😂🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶
@maddesi2709
3 жыл бұрын
It's also amusing to hear references to "bringing football into the modern era".
@brucecox5025
Жыл бұрын
INDIANAPOLIS IS THERE RIGHTFUL HOME NOW 💙💙💙
@Nash55ppp
3 жыл бұрын
The NFL returns to Los Angeles of both the Rams '16 & Chargers '17
@mrg8581
2 жыл бұрын
Really? The Hoosier Dome looked far from being finished. 14:55.
@jefferyrobertson7520
6 жыл бұрын
Al Davis leave Oakland move to Los Angeles became Los Angeles Raiders in 1982 followed by Robert irsay leave Baltimore move to Indianapolis became Indianapolis Colts in 1984 and last but not least bill bidwill leave St Louis move to Phoenix became Phoenix Cardinals in 1988 those are the greatest moves the franchise relocation in NFL history of all time the 80s
@rockvilleraven
5 жыл бұрын
Ironically Bidwell considered moving to Baltimore, but the family voted for Arizona because of the Weather.
@jefferyrobertson7520
5 жыл бұрын
rockvilleraven Oakland Alameda Coliseum home of Oakland Athletics Memorial Stadium home of Baltimore Orioles and Busch Stadium home of St Louis Cardinals Major League Baseball without NFL teams
@michaelleroy9281
2 жыл бұрын
The Cardinals move to Phoenix in 1988 was approved by the NFL owners they didn't just take off like the Raiders and Colts
@danielmatthews638
7 жыл бұрын
remember like it was yesterday....walked out of high school that day.....upset about colts and that we went to school despite the snow......
@arthurhall8238
3 жыл бұрын
Must stink to have the best player ever in your franchise history.....to have a statue outside of someone else's stadium
@Austin.Kilgore
2 жыл бұрын
Wdym?
@arthurhall8238
2 жыл бұрын
@@Austin.Kilgore umm..there is a status of Johnny Unitas, a COLT, outside of Raven's stadium...
@whataboutrob442
22 күн бұрын
@@arthurhall8238that is lame!
@williamsanders2439
3 жыл бұрын
The Mayflower Move
@maxpuppy96
Жыл бұрын
I don't blame Irsay for leaving Baltimore, they had every chance to keep them in Baltimore and the city did not step up. Memorial stadium was a dump. Things were moving forward in the NFL and teams were getting new stadiums and financial support from cities they resided in.
@Justin-Hill-1987
Жыл бұрын
Thank goodness the Packers stayed in Green Bay instead of moving to Milwaukee...The Packers have too much of a long, rich football history in the city of Green Bay to move anywhere else, having been started by Acme meat packing company employees in the late 1800s as a sandlot football team known as the Acme Packers...I also like that the Packers had invested in renovations, expansions and retrofits to their stadium to make it a year-round attraction for their fanbase. Instead of being owned by one person, the Packers are owned by a collective of shareholders. I worked at the Packers Pro Shop at Lambeau Field in high school, and it's amazing to see all the merchandise with the Packers logo plastered all over them beyond the usual range of hats, T-shirts and jerseys!
@dallasmars2
2 ай бұрын
When the packers played in Milwaukee the traditional foes played in green Bay everybody else played in milwauker
@dallasmars2
2 ай бұрын
P.s. like the bears lions vikings played in green bay
@raypavey1102
7 жыл бұрын
I was only 3 when this happened if i would have been older im sure it would bother me more but im still steamed about this but at least we have 1 more Lombardi trophy than Indy
@acharleyhorse1
5 жыл бұрын
Actually, two more. The Baltimore Colts won Super Bowl V. Even though took the trophy, the Colts played in Baltimore then.
@michaelleroy9281
4 жыл бұрын
Things were going on from Jan- Mar 1984 as the video shows
@wbeard358
2 жыл бұрын
They made the man hell of a better deal than Baltimore. Shame we didn’t get to keep the team’s history and colors
@gojuraisforever9574
2 жыл бұрын
Even if the Colts didn’t leave for Indianapolis, what would Baltimore do with two NFL teams?! It most like would have to be like the Jets and Giants, there would be no other choice.
@michaelleroy9281
4 жыл бұрын
In 1983 Colts had many crowds of 25000 or so
@adamdorgant9454
3 жыл бұрын
Didn’t know that!!!!
@andysozio8556
3 жыл бұрын
Because the team had been horrible for 5 years and Irsay was constantly threatening to move the team. Also in those days a lot of NFL teams failed to fill their stadiums.
@adamdorgant9454
2 жыл бұрын
@@andysozio8556 You’re Right about that!!!
@johnnydiner9815
7 жыл бұрын
Do you have the 20/20 episode of the BALTIMORE COLTS being stolen?
@mrchopsticks3
7 жыл бұрын
Stolen by whom?
@rockvilleraven
6 жыл бұрын
Politicians who tried to force "Emmint Domain" down Irsay's Throat, thus why he called the moving vans.
@rockvilleraven
6 жыл бұрын
The Band that wouln't die.
@johnnyroberts3761
4 жыл бұрын
Johnny Diner 30/30
@hotwax9376
7 жыл бұрын
I'm a Cowboys fan and have never been to Baltimore (at least not yet), but I have to agree with their assessment of what Irsay did with the Colts. Baltimore should have at least been able to keep the name, given that it had a specific geographic significance to them. I just hope that someday, the Indianapolis team will change its name and allow the Colts history and intellectual property to go to the Ravens.
@johnfifer1418
7 жыл бұрын
HotWax93 nope.
@nashvilleslim
6 жыл бұрын
HotWax93 not going to happen bruh
@crawford371
6 жыл бұрын
I don't think baltimore want the Colts name at all...they're fine with the ravens
@randomtraveler9854
6 жыл бұрын
@@crawford371 No the Colts history belongs in Baltimore. They were much more successful than the Ravens will ever be. Flacco will never even come close to matching Unitas.
@notredameandcoltsfan
Жыл бұрын
Nah
@dvferyance
4 жыл бұрын
The Colts belong in Indianapolis. That is where Peyton Manning played.
@whataboutrob442
22 күн бұрын
Overrated
@jasonrfoss248
2 жыл бұрын
You can’t say goddamn on the air. Don’t worry. Nobody’s listening anyway.
@kalel311superman9
3 жыл бұрын
i was 3 when this happened i started watching the nfl when i was 10 and eventually i found out about this
@edlegenbauer3170
5 жыл бұрын
Cleveland kept the Browns logo . Why was the Irsay clown allowed to keep the Colts logo?Maby the nfl can fix that as well as the officiating problems
@whataboutrob442
22 күн бұрын
Exactly! Underrated comment
@johnnyroberts3761
5 жыл бұрын
Baltimore Ravens is a much better name than Baltimore Colts #UnpopularOpinion
@wiedep
Жыл бұрын
When you don't have a mind (Irsay) it's hard to make it up.
@thatboykaden8128
4 ай бұрын
Crazy in the 1980's u can just camp out and go to someones hotel room and interview him.
@splashnskillz37
5 жыл бұрын
18-19 season fun fact Baltimore and Houston the cities who lost their team made the playoffs While Colts and Titans fought each other for 1 to make it in week 17 Edit: And Cleveland was decent for once
@elsquared8800
6 жыл бұрын
Why is the audio so out of sync? Is anyone else having that problem?
@colonelrobertsjr.7882
5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@StrivingTowardsWhatIsAhead
5 жыл бұрын
I’m hammer drunk so I can’t really tell.
@adamdorgant9454
5 жыл бұрын
Yes!!!!
@jamespowell9008
2 жыл бұрын
I had no problem with the Colts leaving Baltimore and I understand it's a business. I am from Baltimore and my stepfather was a die-hard Colts fan and when they moved out of Baltimore his health started declining and he eventually passed away in 1986. The way I see it Irsay did what he had to do and if he felt as though he would be more financially stable moving to Indy so be it I had a problem with the way he did it and felt he could have moved that team in a more professional manner and did it to their face and not behind their back. The NFL should have made him turn that team around and go back to Baltimore and go through the proper and mandatory procedures to move that team. He moved that team like he was a damn cowboy packing up his family and moving to another land to settle down on. And time went on and 12 years had passed by before Baltimore got another team and was back in the NFL, and they stole a team from an NFL city and that was total revenge for what happened to them and what else was so bad, the NFL turned Baltimore down from getting an expansion team. And you know what the Ravens have been more successful than the Colts, the Ravens have won 2 super bowls, and the Colts have only 1 super bowl since being in Indy and super bowl 5 belongs to Baltimore and the Baltimore Colts.
@uncleloof
3 жыл бұрын
In the end all cities involved came out okay.
@voicevitality7197
2 жыл бұрын
There's so much I could say about Marge Blatt 5:55, the human Pall Mall. When public relations backfires.
@adamdorgant9454
2 жыл бұрын
You’re right about that!!!!
@dallasmars2
2 ай бұрын
Who is marge platt
@voicevitality7197
2 ай бұрын
@@dallasmars2 I don't know about Marge Platt, but I was talking about Marge Blatt, who was featured at the time I gave in my comment.
@whataboutrob442
22 күн бұрын
@@voicevitality7197Tell me more about Marge. She looks like a Marge Blatt.
@nathanhamberg6733
5 жыл бұрын
saying that Baltimore should have kept the lago in Baltimore no because Bob Irsay owned the team so he technically owned the lago
@arthurhall8238
3 жыл бұрын
not the point...
@gojuraisforever9574
2 жыл бұрын
No wonder he was called “Turnoff” should have changed his last name to “Turndown” because he was turning down the reporters questions.
@realazduffman
5 жыл бұрын
This would make a good movie.
@SportsBuilding
4 жыл бұрын
AZDuffman 30 for 30 has one about the marching band. It’s really good
@cellmate1
3 жыл бұрын
They tried to take The Colts from Irsay!!!! He’s not the villain
@acharleyhorse1
3 жыл бұрын
Then you know nothing about Irsay. His own Mother called him "The Devil on earth".
@cellmate1
3 жыл бұрын
@@acharleyhorse1 Baltimore tried to take his team.
@andysozio8556
3 жыл бұрын
You seriously need to learn about Irsay and how he ran that franchise into the ground when it was in Baltimore. He was an absolute villian.
@cellmate1
3 жыл бұрын
@@acharleyhorse1 IT WAS STILL HIS TEAM!! His personality has nothing to do with it
@marcelo141224
6 жыл бұрын
Ravens (old Browns) fans see this
@belcherman
6 жыл бұрын
I also have Browns to Baltimore as well. need to put that up.
@joeblow6100
2 ай бұрын
that was a great soundtrack
@herbcanter2614
Жыл бұрын
Sad day.
@kidmack1121
5 жыл бұрын
If this was today, Americans would vote Bob Irsay into the Whitehouse.
@michaelleroy9281
2 жыл бұрын
Even with his salty language
@hoss73ford
7 жыл бұрын
I hate domes. Nothing like watching a football game outside regardless of the weather. Domes are succeptable to catching fire with all the electrics involved. A recipe for disaster.
@whataboutrob442
22 күн бұрын
Agree 100%
@michaelleroy9281
4 жыл бұрын
15 vans taking 15 different routes
@adamdorgant9454
3 жыл бұрын
You’re right about that!!!!!
@johneddy908
Жыл бұрын
That began a curse that has hounded the Colts to this day, despite winning a Super Bowl 34 years later.
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