Maori are not the "Indigenous" race of New Zealand. They actually killed and ate the originals (Morioris)
@woofwoof9647
2 ай бұрын
Plus two others Patu Patuwai and the Fairy People Rotorua !!!
@user-ii1iy8fz1d
2 ай бұрын
❤😢 and others
@Pastaaa204
2 ай бұрын
As a moriori, I find your comment revolting.
@user-ii1iy8fz1d
2 ай бұрын
@@Pastaaa204 you are allowed to be revolted by facts.
@hughbarlow9736
2 ай бұрын
@@user-ii1iy8fz1d You are one ignorant mofo. If you value facts head to a library and read some books about this. The facts are well established and they are nothing like anything you believe.
@skepticalkiwi69
2 ай бұрын
I liked how Michael had to drag out of him that he grew up in a dysfunctional family. Its all blame blame blame until you start to apply personal responsibility.
@olliemoose2020
2 ай бұрын
Well it was great that this unfortunate man actually highlighted the fact that it was his own family that put him there by miss treatment, and that has nothing to do with so called colonisation.
@GaryWills-z1b
2 ай бұрын
Many non Maori also ended up in state care. It was just how things were back then.
@tracymichaelsen493
2 ай бұрын
Maori aren't the only victims of the Empires lack of care for its peasants. We just will never accept it.
@larrylewislarry
2 ай бұрын
Hopefully one day, people will stop using the term ‘non maori’. It makes my blood boil. I’d rather just be a Kiwi or New Zealander.
@tracymichaelsen493
2 ай бұрын
@@larrylewislarry your a pakeha
@olliemoose2020
2 ай бұрын
It appears that alcohol was the main problem with part Māori, so why were they aloud to keep buying it, why wasn’t alcohol ban’s but on these people, Māori and European.
@tracymichaelsen493
2 ай бұрын
@@olliemoose2020 There was a fake one imposed. 6 oclock closing of pubs to encourage people to go home back in the day. Thought process being they would go feed their kids. Theyd take the party home until reopening and return if able. Alcohol is a huge problem world wide. The reasons behind excessive drinking and drug abuse is complicated. Any daily or even regular weekly intake of what would be considered small amounts of alcohol fall into the category of alcoholism and mental illness. Most people who simply tick the box that they drink fall easily into this category. A glass of wine or 2 every night. Friday night drink after work. All normalized yet very far from harmless social activity. One turns to 2,3,4......at 2 most are over the limit to drive.
@geoffneal9146
2 ай бұрын
The big thing missing in this report is that bad/abusive parenting is the #1 root cause.
@granabiss_
2 ай бұрын
Parents have the duty of care to perform. If they dont, it is because of their actions or lack thereof that effects the kids.
@olliemoose2020
2 ай бұрын
That’s right and those parents should be the one’s going to jail for neglecting there own kid’s.
@brucecouper
2 ай бұрын
News flash Rawiri: how did Maori colonisation go for the peoples who were already here in NZ .......
@hughbarlow9736
2 ай бұрын
There weren't any. Stop believing dumb websites and go to a library and read actual history.
@ObiePaddles
2 ай бұрын
Three generations of a family who needed state care. It was the violent once were warriors family that were the issue. At least the DSW tried to do something. Rawiri might have been killed if he hadn’t been ‘treated so badly by the state’.
@pamelaabsolum2202
2 ай бұрын
I wonder if alcohol is not to blame in children being born with foetal alcohol syndrome? Those children have behavioural issues right from birth.
@sclark9011
2 ай бұрын
We also now have foetal P syndrome and don't know to what extent the trauma or repercusions of the syndrome are and are still discovering it's horrendous effects.
@pamelaabsolum2202
2 ай бұрын
@@sclark9011 babies born of drug affected mothers go through horrendous withdrawal symptoms. So sad.
@888Sooty
2 ай бұрын
Remember Maori like most tribal groups had very brutal justice usually involving death
@davidmccormick3742
2 ай бұрын
@888sooty Which included Slavery & Cannibalism
@StGammon77
2 ай бұрын
Exactly but it's about bad white man
@Peter_Pepper_Love
2 ай бұрын
@@davidmccormick3742 Kuru disease is a batch! ✊🏽🤯
@mattheweden-pc5pk
2 ай бұрын
The parents should be ashamed of themselves,children shouldn’t be used as punching bags, as a parent you need to make the decision how to treat your children, time to stop blaming others for your actions, colonisation is just another way to blame others for your actions,
@olliemoose2020
2 ай бұрын
The Māori have always been good at that.
@mrsANGRYh
2 ай бұрын
Sadly some people should just not be allowed to have children.
@calstonjew
2 ай бұрын
gays
@Chronicz120
2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately there would of been more whanau care abuse than state care cases, Incest was rampant in Polynesian families back in the day especially in Maori whanau's. Father's, Uncles, Aunty's and others were molesting other whanau member's and it was swept under the carpet and encouraged not to be talked about. The amount of story's told to me from victims of this abuse is unbelievable, some even resulting in pregnancy's. The victims of the abuse that I know of are in their 40s right up into their 70s and all say it was whanau member's not outsiders.
@olliemoose2020
2 ай бұрын
Exactly, that was how it was, and still is unfortunately.
@brianmarshall1762
2 ай бұрын
State care was pretty much when the families are a basket case or orphan situation.
@jasperhorace7147
2 ай бұрын
Yes, don’t you just love how everyone else but the kids parents get the blame. If care is so awful, just leave them with their loving, gentle lovely parents.
@Pastaaa204
2 ай бұрын
My grandparents weren't "orphaned". Their mother died when she was 28 in a car accident, she was passenger and the driver wasn't under the influence. Their father was still alive, however they would remove children from one parent households. In the 60s, a common mindset amongst the govt and their agencies were that men couldn't raise children without the help of the mother. They went to lake Alice and other boy and girl homes in the 60s. My pakeha partners grandfather was taken from his birth mother during her stay at tokanui. She was beaten near to death by her partner days after giving birth to twins. This would've happened in the 40s. For my family the reason why our whanau went through state care was not a result of our family being "a basket case or orphan situation". My partners situation I don't view as an orphan situation if people stole her newborn twins, but her partner was definitely a basket case and a coward.
@brianmarshall1762
2 ай бұрын
@@Pastaaa204 your partners family situation sounds like a basket case situation, but your own families situation was not uncommon. My own mother had to go into short term care when her mum went into hospital long term and her stepdad had to travel out of town for work. The same religious group also I took care of orphans where she was sent to. She told me about it one day and mentioned it with happy memories of her time there. Not all stories of going into care were negative. And you are correct when you say that the governments view at the time was dads could not raise their children alone. Looking at the crime stats for children of single mothers, there is an argument that mothers also can’t raise their children alone. That’s not an absolute thought. I know many single mothers and their children that have grown up to be good people and productive members of society. I’m sure you do too.
@calstonjew
2 ай бұрын
@@Pastaaa204 Everyone needs a mother.
@janetamplin7318
2 ай бұрын
100 yrs generational. State care..BLAME THE FAMILY..... .why didcthe state intervene .
@tocabanana1637
2 ай бұрын
Moriori peoples land needs freedom from maori colonisation
@olliemoose2020
2 ай бұрын
Exactly.
@adriandocherty778
2 ай бұрын
Which Moriori lands are being colonised by which Maori and where??🤷🏽🤷🏽
@jonathanwright5550
2 ай бұрын
My great grand father was gassed in ww1 france came back to nz with ptsd hed beat his kids his kids beat their kids.... i'm not a child beater cos mum broke the cycle....
@jimnz8402
2 ай бұрын
Can anyone else confirm that Dr Rawiri Waretini-Karena is teaching that colonisation is to blame? The Platform left us hanging on that one. I imagine that an objective lens would be near impossible viewpoint from Rawiri, given his seriously unfortunate history.
@Duckz558
2 ай бұрын
even moana jackson had said that same sequence through his speech making sense
@jimnz8402
2 ай бұрын
@@Duckz558 Moana Jackson was an activist, he already had an agenda. There will never be a clear, logical, scientific explanation stating that colonisation is the reason for Māori over representation in health, crime and socio economic statistics. This is because it's a broad conclusion with a massive number of facets. By making that simplistic conclusion, Maori will never address any underlying causes. Why not point to "Psychology" or "Culture"? Or at least a combination of factors? How can Maori move forward if they teach Rangatahi that "Colonisation" is the cause of everything bad?
@seanlusty33
2 ай бұрын
@@jimnz8402 Only WINZ, KFC and Booze is the good colonisation
@ronnymcdonald2543
2 ай бұрын
@@jimnz8402 Exactly
@mattie9481
2 ай бұрын
@@jimnz8402i would say most are a product of their environment which means it takes more discipline and perseverance to escape. This is maybe a trait that maori struggle with though can be achieved without the conditioned victim mentality.
@giltee626
2 ай бұрын
So basically 3 generations went into state care and as usual with those maori it’s easier to blame it on others. It sounds to me like it’s was generational bad parenting and I suggest those maori parents who’s children go from state care to the prison system take ownership of your own failings as parents. I grew up with an abusive mother who beat us and emotionally blackmailed us to hurt others but I can’t blame it on colonisation or anything else apart from bad parenting. I had a choice and chose not to put my children through the same trauma as I went through and ended up owning 3 properties through hard work and retiring early. This guy is simply playing the victim card and not taking responsibility for his families failings to learn from it
@bennichols1113
2 ай бұрын
Wtf has this got to do with colonization?
@Peter_Pepper_Love
2 ай бұрын
Weak people would rather blame others...than take personal responsibility and 'break the cycle' ♾️
@AndrewJackson-mf5qp
2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately weak people play the victim, all of us have been abused or victimised in one form or another but one must move on the best we can and learn from things that happen and look at ourselves not as a victim but as a winner.
@Not4Prophet
2 ай бұрын
Have any of you ever been in custody of state actors/agencies? If not then go take a hard look in the mirror and see that you only know you, if that.
@pamelaabsolum2202
2 ай бұрын
@@Not4Prophet Church orphanages and children’s home, yes.
@carlmark1013
2 ай бұрын
@God-Zin-uru if you dont know what's in the report then you should shut up.
@ianharrison7924
2 ай бұрын
Intriguing. Thanks Michael
@grahamclark5766
2 ай бұрын
If your parents were bad parents, would`nt you want to be a better parent, maybe easier to blame someone else
@hughbarlow9736
2 ай бұрын
Didn't you listen? This man emerged from all this, and a murder conviction, to earn a PhD and make a difference in people's lives. Have you got a PhD? Have you changed people for the better?
@AmonAnon-vw3hr
2 ай бұрын
@hughbarlow9736 how? We didn't get the opportunities he did.
@seanlusty33
2 ай бұрын
You have one family that has not broken the cycle of abuse which resulted in the state being involved. But you can't take accountability for your actions and need to blame the state for your incompetence to parent
@StGammon77
2 ай бұрын
The enquiry was for Maoris and Islanders its another gravy train for browns
@pamelaabsolum2202
2 ай бұрын
Many who came back from WWI had horrific war damage,. Not just those from WWII. If there was no state care what would have happened to Rawiri and or his father? It seems to me that there has to be blame laid at parents who were supposed to love and protect children.
@tracymichaelsen493
2 ай бұрын
No one is saying that isnt true. Parent are fundamentally supposed to care lovingly for their children. Solutions to prevent abuse are always key and compliated. Alcohol falls into a mental health disorder along with drug abuse. Many parents simply arent equiped to care for themselves let alone children. Once taken into care, key word being CARE if that also is a failure , who is responsible to change it. All of us. There is a lack of care across the board of people simply not caring about each other anymore.
@speeddemon9555
2 ай бұрын
@@tracymichaelsen493 when you say who's responsible " all of us " that's bullshit, my wife and i raised our child in a loving, safe, environment, two parents are key to a stable life to any child, putting the blame on anyone else is a copout, people can help for sure, but, to blame anyone else for stupidity or any trauma is wrong, it's unfortunate, but, EVERYBODY knows right from wrong, even those who have grown up in a bad environment !! in the end, parents are at fault, nobody else !!
@tracymichaelsen493
2 ай бұрын
@speeddemon9555 If solutions are not taken up by all- where do you think you loved child will end up ,if we don't all take full ownership of it. There are far more unloved than loved. Blame? Well that's an easy side step into a hole of self denial. Loved, truly loved isn't what's dished up for any of us in the real cold world, is it? Solutions. Some Maori are extremely violent. Much more so than pakeha. Then let us deal with them. Your ways don't work. 170,000 per year for an inmate. There is no such thing as rehab , that's just spin. You stand Maori up on a Marae to be roasted by other Maori. And it is an eye opening experience. You see a Maori in court, they simply don't give a fck. Maori run the prisons. The guards are the imprisoned. Maori run the lower levels of society and any country is run on a trickle up. Not down. That's why the hoods are flooded with drugs. DNA altering drugs. So that those strong hood, bottom rung of the ladder with its own justice system is broken. Your not held up by the top. Your held up by the bottom. So if you refuse to let Maori get stronger and stop what's happening at the bottom then all the children who have never known trauma will be unable to avoid it. In that to all barrels know who the rotten apples are. The uncle you can't leave the kids around. The bus driver that's pissed. The cop that bashs his wife. It's up to each barrel. Maori is a barrel. The bottom of which is rotten to the core. We would sort it out for less than 170 k easily. But prison are a business. They are only for profit and the illusion of justice.
@tracymichaelsen493
2 ай бұрын
@speeddemon9555 Hey speedy. When you calm down. You may want to read my initial comment again. You assume to much.
@speeddemon9555
2 ай бұрын
@@tracymichaelsen493 i'm always calm dude, and you did stipulate that we are all responsible to change it, not me pal, how people wreck their own lives is their business, and assumption is the mother of all fuckups, so, i assume nothing.
@Chronicz120
2 ай бұрын
FIRST AND FOREMOST the parents of all these state care abuse victims should held accountable as well as the state care employees. Some people argue the state care victims were taking from loving home's and if true that in itself is a tragedy and should be thoroughly investigated.
@pgreen8531
2 ай бұрын
Generally i dont listen to a maori telling us what to do or how to think.
@tracymichaelsen493
2 ай бұрын
You believe Maori should only listen? obey and be submisive to pakeha will only? Dont be surprised then when Maori as well stop listening. Equality.
@AmonAnon-vw3hr
2 ай бұрын
@tracymichaelsen493 literally no one said that. And Maori don't listen anyway. If they did, then they'd know that diving up groups based on race has never, ever worked in any country ever in history.
@tracymichaelsen493
2 ай бұрын
@@AmonAnon-vw3hr Well it hasn't worked for you lot yet that doesn't seem to stop you
@logicalanswer3529
2 ай бұрын
Colonization literally has nothing to do with the neglect and abuse that the children received from the people initially responsible for their care and wellbeing - The parents.
@berniefynn6623
2 ай бұрын
maori fought each other and took over other tribes, THIS is colonisation, they are stone age, NO written anguage to back up their claims so all claims must be ignored.
@watsonrangi6236
2 ай бұрын
So what's that got to do with now and bro you have to come up with something new your s is old I'm sure you and your mates can do it
@berniefynn6623
2 ай бұрын
@@watsonrangi6236 Maori keep bleating about being poor done by because of colonisation,use this be@cues to thick to adap5 after how long
@watsonrangi6236
2 ай бұрын
@@berniefynn6623 no we don't you just need something to hate get right
@Edgycoo
2 ай бұрын
@@watsonrangi6236 he is absolutely right. Maori have been helped a lot and have more opportunities than so many other people in the world. It will be nice when maori stand up and join the world. The hand out isnt coming. Dont waste your whole life waiting for it.
@jakecampbell6280
2 ай бұрын
the maori people need to be given more money
@olliemoose2020
2 ай бұрын
People that have Ill intentions when drinking alcohol should have court appointed alcohol ban’s placed on them, why is it that governments in the past have not gone down that road.
@anitagill4790
2 ай бұрын
Sounds like a system problem, not a colonisation problem.
@andrewlim9345
2 ай бұрын
Listening to Rawiri's story, it was sad to hear about his family being trapped in an intergenerational cycle of state care and poverty. Inequality, trauma and injustice would be the main drivers rather than colonialism.
@ronnymcdonald2543
2 ай бұрын
Yep happened to my family and were White.
@andrewlim9345
2 ай бұрын
@@ronnymcdonald2543 I meant to say that inequality, trauma and injustice can happen to anyone regardless of their ethnicity, creed or gender.
@dave24-73
2 ай бұрын
It’s important to make a note that these people in care were abused by their own people first, if they had bee treated well by their own people they would never had been in care. That does not excuse what has happened to these people while in state care, but it is important to note both failing and not just highlight the state failings. There certainly needs to be accountability for allowing state care to get to such low levels, but it’s also important to look at the root causes which is the failing of the parents and families these children were taken from. Colonisation or the state is not to blame for the abuse Maori put on their own people, there are many poor people who don’t normalise or excuse violence which is something that if we look at NZ stats Maori seem to do.
@seddy69
2 ай бұрын
the youtube video stops at the good bit ........ how did he get from school to where he is now?
@scorpnz4433
2 ай бұрын
Epiphany is how. He realised his behaviour wasn't normal. When growing up you don't know any better & assume all families are like that. This is confirmed through watching many vids from abuse victims on yt regardless of the type of abuse.
@hildashaw213
2 ай бұрын
Not everyone who was abused in care has complained to this commission. My husband who is quarter Maori, was deserted by his half Maori mother, who went off with a widower who already had 3 children. She took her youngest son, and left my husband his brother with their father who was a New Zealander. He ended up putting his two sons into care for personal reasons, and he got them back after 6 years when my husband was 12. My husband was sexually abused by two boys in the home he was in, in Chch. He developed schizophrenia, which the state has never cared about, and he was also rejected by mental health, because he is not sick enough, even though he is on daily meds and has been in mental hospitals and wards. He has to pay to see a doctor. He is far to fragile to complain about any of his treatment, which had nothing to do with colonisation, more to do with adults being incapable of behaving with decency.
@adriandocherty778
2 ай бұрын
I hope I’m wrong but I wanna call bs on your. It’s more to do with adults incapable of behaving with decency?? Colonisation isn’t just an outcome for Maori kids in NZ!! Kids are fkn kids no matter what!! South Island or North Island🤷🏽 But here u are playing victim on his behalf instead!!🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️
@tonygee3284
2 ай бұрын
These people are mari a mix of all types of people All trying to get a dollar
@AndyMann-o9i
2 ай бұрын
Scan your eyes across the world and look who at some point has been colonised Yet its still an issue here after 200 years
@pamelaabsolum2202
2 ай бұрын
And a student who came to school high on Marijuana given to her by her mother who was busy smoking it as well. No. Come on, who is responsible for that!!!!!
@rochellelemberg8034
2 ай бұрын
I call BS. My father grew up in care. He had sone major issues, but i didnt end up there.... Its called breaking a cycle, and stop blaming a Govt Organisation for your whanau generational abuse
@berniefynn6623
2 ай бұрын
He was always known as David
@judyirving7631
2 ай бұрын
Sir Winston Peters, Sir Shane Jones, Sir David Seymour, Dame Nicole McKee. MAORI ARE GREAT AGAIN !! The FUTURE.
@giltee626
2 ай бұрын
None of these politicians play the victim game as the same for the many successful good maori I’ve worked with.
@mobbarley7517
2 ай бұрын
Maori are great again because they get titles from a royal family who's linked over and over to pedophiles... OK then.
@CharlieHoliday369
2 ай бұрын
( …. so he had absolutely shit parents ? #victimMentality Correction; “ Once were savages.”
@kumarapatch1234
2 ай бұрын
Blame game again
@calstonjew
2 ай бұрын
They look at outcomes, and say "well, Maori are over represented in crime statistics, therefore the only allowable explanation must be racist policing!"
@diablojames
Ай бұрын
As soon as he started blaming the state for generational trauma I switched it off. Reminded me of Te Pati Maori, John Tamihere and Willie Jackson
@chrisj8764
2 ай бұрын
Annoying to cut the interview off here, when this was an interesting discussion.
@ianharrison7924
2 ай бұрын
It's a ploy to get you to download the app.
@hughbarlow9736
2 ай бұрын
@@ianharrison7924 The app is free. But if you don't listen live and want full replays, you have to sign up for just a few dollars a week.
@davidfentonhancock6646
2 ай бұрын
Would love to be able to see guests faces.......
@davidfentonhancock6646
2 ай бұрын
You didn't discuss the "Doctrine of Discovery" upon which Dr Waretini-Karena seems to have based much of his doctorate upon. That's a shame.
@lynnebarnes3840
2 ай бұрын
It's class not race.
@grandadneal8114
2 ай бұрын
You could have been colonised by France, Italy, Portugal, Holland, any number of countries and I think you would find far fewer Maori....colonisation and becoming a colony of somewhere else are actually 2 different things.
@lockk132
2 ай бұрын
I think everyone needs to step back and think on how Maori families got into such strife.I have no doubt there will be some unaddressed issues from land loss ,from alienation ,from poverty that has kick started this whole God damn awefull state of affairs for some Maori.
@StGammon77
2 ай бұрын
No it's just kids being indoctrinated
@jakecampbell6280
2 ай бұрын
just make a maori parliament
@mervynpeka
2 ай бұрын
Good on him....sounds like he has changed.
@Connor-j7l
2 ай бұрын
Newsflash people..the moriori werent the first either..not by a long way....the patupaearehe, turehu and others were celtic peoples that are the true tangata whenua....they were NOT fairies, as maori would have us all believe..dna says welsh and irish. So polynesian maori were themselves COLONISERS..and were brutal in their quest for lands..they ate very well too, by all accounts.😝
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