Both episodes were enjoyable for me. Sorry if it wasn't clear for "That Which Survives."
@rccraig7580
2 ай бұрын
Season 3 was kind of a watershed moment for the series as some of the cast felt that Gene Roddenberry has kind of stepped away from his more hands involvement of the show during the previous seasons. Reportedly Gene was trying mediate the dissesntion between Shatner and Nimoy about who was the star of the show and also the reduced budget for the third season along with rumors of the show being cancelled at the end of the season. Many Star Trek fans felt that season 3 was the weakest with some of its stories and production values being below par of the first two seasons. So its not uncommon for fans to feel that many episodes of the last season were hit and miss ( probably more miss ). There is also an interesting blooper at the end "Lights of Zetar" when Kirk, Spock and McCoy are talking about Mira if you look closely at Spock's right elbow you'll see what appears to be a crumpled up newspaper in the adjacent room. That was inadvertently left by someone go ahead and rewatch that scene and see if you can spot it.
@fredklein3829
2 ай бұрын
@@rccraig7580 Another blooper in LZ is Mira's hair hanging down normally in pressure chamber when it should be floating parallel to floor i.e. without gravity.
@TheNoiseySpectator
2 ай бұрын
@@rccraig7580 Or, maybe someone _in the show_ had been reading the paper while sitting in the hyperbaric pressure tank room before they started using it. 😒 My gosh. Some people just have to hunt for any little thing to condemn the show for doing wrong.
@TheNoiseySpectator
2 ай бұрын
@@fredklein3829 And, who said there was no gravity, Fred? I didn't hear anyone say that was why she was floating.
@fredklein3829
2 ай бұрын
@@TheNoiseySpectator Look at her hair. It's a well-known observation in TREKdom. 🙂
@socalpaul487
2 ай бұрын
The "Jeffries Tube" that Scotty climbs into was named for Walter Matt Jeffries, the designer of the USS Enterprise as well as many other sets and props.
@CaesiusX
2 ай бұрын
_That Which Survives_ has long been one of my favorite episodes.
@solvingpolitics3172
2 ай бұрын
That “Witch” survives may have been a better title.
@CaesiusX
Ай бұрын
@@solvingpolitics3172 🧙♀️😋
@solvingpolitics3172
2 ай бұрын
The Woman who stared in “That Which Survives” was former Miss America Lee Meriwether. She also stared in a wonderful detective show called “Barnaby Jones.”
@kunserndsittizen2655
2 ай бұрын
And the movie’s CATWOMAN...though I prefer Julie Newmar
@zoppie
2 ай бұрын
Prior to that, she was a regular on _The Time Tunnel._
@texvor6949
2 ай бұрын
Cool reaction. Some trivia, Watkins was played by Kenneth Washington who was in a show known as hogan's heroes which was popular around the same time Star Trek was on TV in the 60s. He's the last surviving cast member from that show. He was was also Whitney's dad in an episode of A Different World. While the woman Lieutenant Rahda, Spock was being a bit rude to was played by Naomi Pollack who also played the native woman who married kirk when he lost his memory in The Paradise Syndrome episode a couple of reactions back.
@TheNoiseySpectator
2 ай бұрын
I wish they'd found someone else besides Pollak to play Rahda. She and Locyra looked too much alike. Someone not watch the show closely might get them mixed up & think Rahda was Locyra impersonating a crew member.
@RobXHEphotosPs37.29
2 ай бұрын
That Which Survives probably my fav of these 2 episodes. I met Lee Meriwether at a convention a few years back, she enjoyed doing this episode. Enjoyed your reactions Courtney !
@CourtReacts-zm9yv
2 ай бұрын
That is awesome that you got to meet her!
@solvingpolitics3172
2 ай бұрын
@@CourtReacts-zm9yv Definitely was the better of the two episodes. I did not get into the blowing of the soap bubbles episode😂
@zoppie
2 ай бұрын
Watching "Zetar" as a little kid, the croaking people scared the piss out of me.
@georgemartin1436
2 ай бұрын
ME TOO! "The technician on the floor"!
@EQSATUB
2 ай бұрын
Same, especially if you watched it on a black and white television where the face effect was even creepier!
@ArtisticMysticSoul
2 ай бұрын
The LIghts of Zetar freaked me out as a kid. Also, I never understood why all these Scotty episodes talked about him being so old and portrayed him as so unstable around women. Big pet peeve of mine.
@CourtReacts-zm9yv
2 ай бұрын
This theme with Scotty does keep coming up. I don't even view him as being old.
@photonicus
2 ай бұрын
Scotty seems to fall in love like a teenager. He spends so much time immersed in the world of tech an attractive woman can take him by surprise.
@ToneHobart
2 ай бұрын
Mira was under a lot of pressure to perform as this was her first assignment, the federation would be a gigantic government agency on earth, but not everybody gets to be in star fleet. Mira's attitude towards Dr. McCoy is understandable as anything that he officially logs about her attitude and behavior is going to be reviewed by star fleet. And also is part of her permanent record. Naturally she will be evasive and apprehensive. Certain things about her personality that makes her behave this way (Her stubbornness for one, as well as well as her pliant response to new learning situations...) is what makes her a match to the Zatarians.
@ToneHobart
2 ай бұрын
When I saw "The Lights Of Zatar" as a child, it was the only episode that actually scared me.
@TheNoiseySpectator
2 ай бұрын
This was pretty scary, wasn't it? 👻 Let's face it, there is no explanation for the whole event except for the Supernatural... With most of them, like 3/17, there turns out to be a scientifically reasonable explanation. .... Most of them.
@bfdidc6604
2 ай бұрын
I was a young kid when I saw The Lights of Zetar and it really sqicked me out.
@VictorBush-cx7sj
2 ай бұрын
Ah D'Mato; Season 3's blue-shirted red shirt. And Lt. Mira Romaine, aka "the Girl"
@paulsander5433
2 ай бұрын
My step-father was a classmate of Lee Ann Meriwether in high school, and apparently they did not get along. When she entered the Miss America pageant, he told his friends he would eat his hat if she won. When she won, they held him to his promise. It was good to see Dr. M'Benga again. Poor Scotty keeps putting himself between women and the baddies. He was zapped by Apollo and Nomad. And the women either kept it professional with him, or they dumped him by the following week. He confirms that simping is a high-risk/low-reward endeavor. After both of these episodes, he earned himself some serious benders. Memory Alpha is the name of the wiki dedicated to Trek fans. It contains strictly canon info from the series and movies produced by the franchise. Contains many spoilers.
@zoppie
2 ай бұрын
Let's not forget Memory Beta, which contains novel and comic book data. And Memory Gamma, fan fiction.
@TheNoiseySpectator
2 ай бұрын
So, was the Website Memory Alpha named after the Library world in the TV series? Or will the Library World one day be named after the website?
@paulsander5433
2 ай бұрын
@@TheNoiseySpectator That seems like a question best answered through the Terminator franchise!
@timmooney7528
2 ай бұрын
James Doohan was in his late 40's, probably 48 or 49. Interesting since that was "older" back then and a lot of leading actors are in their 50's these days.
@PJAvenger
2 ай бұрын
Hey Courtney, you show some determination going through every episode. I can't join you on these but I'm watching to see when you get to good episodes. Cheers.
@CourtReacts-zm9yv
2 ай бұрын
No worries! I am definitely determined to get the full original series experience 😁
@TheNoiseySpectator
2 ай бұрын
@@CourtReacts-zm9yv I also have noticed that "Reactors" rarely ever get all the way this far watching the original series before quitting. ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ In fact, "The Target Audience" are the only other ones. 👍
@vincentsaia6545
2 ай бұрын
In THE LIGHTS OF ZATAR (or SCOTTY FALLS FOR A MARTIAN) Kirk says that no natural phenomenon can travel faster than the speed of light. It has since been discovered that quasars travel many times faster than the speed of light.
@TheNoiseySpectator
2 ай бұрын
Well, maybe by that time we will have learned that we are _wrong_ about quasars. Besides, isn't it more like they seem to be moving away from us at faster than light because they are so far away that space itself is expanding between us and them?
@marialanier6155
2 ай бұрын
Scotty loves the technology more than some women
@TheNoiseySpectator
2 ай бұрын
..... Well, with a few exceptions. I wonder if they eventually broke up because Scotty treated her the same way he treated the engines?
@fredklein3829
2 ай бұрын
Court, you didn't say if you *liked* That Which Survives. / Just once and only for The Lights of Zetar, I wish Shatner could have taken a back seat and allowed Richard Pryor to guest star as Captain Kirk. The scene where the woman on the floor is croaking and changing colours could have been greatly improved with this dialogue from Pryor: ''Girl, what you croakin' at?! Some devilish croakin' at that! Get off da floor and wash yo ass, b*tch! G' downstairs and help yo' Mama straighten out da front room -- weez is havin' company!''
@CourtReacts-zm9yv
2 ай бұрын
I enjoyed it. I pinned a comment so that there isn't anymore confusion. 😅
@MichaelWells770
2 ай бұрын
I should point out that traveling at warp 8, it would take just under 2 years to reach that planet again.
@TheNoiseySpectator
2 ай бұрын
Go ahead... But if you do, I will ask you to do the calculations to figure in the time they were traveling at warp eleven to fifteen. 💨 🌌🚀📈
@williamjones6031
2 ай бұрын
"That Which Survives" 1. I really didn't care much for this one. I was a child when I first saw this so, it seemed to be three steps forward, two steps back. 2. Spock was OTR. 3. Scotty was too ready to give it all up at first, then was the hero. 3. Is it just me, but that's the most uncomfortable resting position ever.🙄 "The Lights of Zetar" 1. This was a middle of the road episode for me. 2. It seems to me than when my drinking buddy Scotty falls in love/lust he goes all the way. "Who mourns for Adonias".
@Tuning_Spork
2 ай бұрын
Q: So, what'd you think of "That Which Survives"? A: ...Another one down! Q: Yeah. A: Yeah.
@CourtReacts-zm9yv
2 ай бұрын
Lol I enjoyed both episodes. I pinned a comment to this video so there isn't anymore confusion.
@whatevergong82
Ай бұрын
I'll say this for "That Which Survives," a Red Shirt actually did something useful! LOL
@kunserndsittizen2655
2 ай бұрын
2:24 why didn’t landing parties bring food and water for emergencies?
@TheNoiseySpectator
2 ай бұрын
In fact, this kind of thing happens so often that they should go back to landing in a shuttle craft, and using only the transporter in certain circumstances.
@kunserndsittizen2655
2 ай бұрын
@@TheNoiseySpectatorI believe in THE CAGE they had provisions as a guy had a big backpack
@pauld6967
2 ай бұрын
@@kunserndsittizen2655 Considering that the landing party was in search of survivors from the crashed ship, the contents of the backpack were likely meant to help mitigate whatever situation they found with the survivors.
@kunserndsittizen2655
2 ай бұрын
@@pauld6967 I would say with the Pike landing party that they were stocked for emergencies. Field jackets and all
@TheNoiseySpectator
2 ай бұрын
15:21 I WOULDN'T CARE! Clearly, it was a trap! I WOULDN'T CARE HOW HUNGRY OR THIRSTY OR HOW BADLY I NEEDED TO GO TO THE BATHROOM! THERE IS *NO WAY* I WOULD GO IN THERE! 😨
@tomyoung9049
2 ай бұрын
The Zetar episode was never one of my faves That which survives is interesting and a unique way of killing. But that is also one of that episodes weaknesses. Mostly because you couldn't actually show such a gruesome death on tv then. If every cell had been blasted. Each man would have been reduced to a bloody pulp. 😵
@pauld6967
2 ай бұрын
Courtney, they were setting D'Amato's tricorder to broadcast a distress signal. This would act as a beacon which a Federation ship (or other spaceship) could home in on and rescue the landing party.
@TheNoiseySpectator
2 ай бұрын
Are you sure it was not like a proximity alarm? A motion detector to warn them if someone was approaching? I thought that was why it was so creepy when she just walked right up and turned it off without it sensing her...👻
@pauld6967
2 ай бұрын
@@TheNoiseySpectator All I can say is that for decades the fandom has considered it to be Starfleet's ELB (Emergency Locator Beacon) but it could be a perimeter tripwire mode. Since Losira wasn't a person or machine, it's not that surprising it didn't detect her....if it was acting as a proximity alarm.
@TheNoiseySpectator
2 ай бұрын
@@pauld6967 It would have lengthened the show, but I would have liked it better if they had discovered the message once they had begun reverse engineering the computer.
@MrFilbot
2 ай бұрын
Hey luv! I don’t know if you plan to go on into the movies or TNG? But I’d love to watch along with you..
@robertfindley921
28 күн бұрын
I also noticed the Sulu phaser not waking up Kirk and McCoy odd. Good episode, but not in my top 10.
@lazyperfectionist1
2 ай бұрын
2:16 "If the _Enterprise_ had blown up, it would've left a high residual radiation." And probably also a lot of debris.
@luminiferous1960
2 ай бұрын
A matter-antimatter explosion of the warp engines may have been powerful enough to vaporize the ship leaving no debris, just a plasma and radiation. Google's AI thinks this is the case since it responded to my question about this as follows: "Yes, a warp core explosion in Star Trek could vaporize a ship due to the massive release of energy."
@lazyperfectionist1
2 ай бұрын
@@luminiferous1960 But if the ship was within transporter range, wouldn't that mean noticeable damage to the planet's atmosphere?
@luminiferous1960
2 ай бұрын
@@lazyperfectionist1 My short answer is that I don't really know. Here are some of my thoughts on your question. According to The Original Series (TOS) writers' guide, the effective range of a transporter is 40,000 km. For reference, earth geosynchronous orbit is 35,786 km. To be in transporter range at any time, the ship would want to be in geosynchronous orbit above the landing party so they don't have to transport them through the entire bulk of the planet. Let's assume the ship is orbiting at 36,000 km. At that altitude there is so low density of atoms, that there would be virtually know medium to propagate a shock wave from the explosion to the planet's atmosphere, so the only effect on the atmosphere will be from the radiation, both electromagnetic and particle radiation. The radiation density from the explosion will fall off proportionally to 1/range^2. Compared to the radiation intensity at the half-width of the Enterprise of 0.06 km, the radiation at 36,000 km away will be lower by a factor of about (0.06km/36,000km)^2 which is about 3e-12. Unfortunately, I don't know what the actual radiation intensity (irradiance) at the edge of the ship would be from a warp core explosion, but it would have to be more than about 450 teraWatts/m^2 in order for the radiation intensity at the planets atmosphere to be greater than the total solar radiation intensity (irradiance) at the earth's atmosphere of 1,361 Watts/m^2. (I used the solar irradiance at the earth's atmosphere under the assumption that much less than that would not produce a significant effect on the atmosphere and much more than that would.) The total radiant power from the explosion would have to be greater than about pi*(450e12)*(60m)^2 = 5E18 Watts = 5 ExaWatts to significantly effect the planets atmosphere. Since I do not know how much power would be produced by the warp core explosion, I cannot tell whether 5 ExaWatts is small or large compared to the power produced by a warp core explosion.
@luminiferous1960
2 ай бұрын
@@lazyperfectionist1 I tried to reply with some calculations, but KZitem deleted my reply. The short answer is I don't know, but there are some reasons why it may not damage the atmosphere: 1. The max transporter range is 40,000 km. 2. If they were in geosynchronous orbit so that they stay over the area of the planet where the landing party is so that they don't have to transport them through the bulk of the planet if the ship happened to be on the other side of the planet when they wanted to beam up, that would be about 36,000 km altitude for an earthlike planet with the same rotation rate as the earth. At that range, the radiation intensity from the event would be about a factor of 3E-12 lower than at the perimeter of the Enterprise, and the plasma particle density would be a factor of about 1E-15 lower than when the plasma diameter was the width of the ship. 3. Because the atomic/molecular density is so low at an altitude of 36,000 km, the shock wave from the event could not propagate through space to the planet's atmosphere, and could only reach the planet when the plasma ball had expanded to a diameter of about 36,000 km to interact with the atmosphere. By that time the intensity of the shock wave would have been attenuated by the expansion of the shock wave throughout the expanding plasma and by the reduction in particle density in the expanding plasma. The expanding plasma would also cool down due to the expansion. However, I do not know if the radiation intensity, shock wave intensity, plasma density, and plasma temperature will have become low enough due to the expansion from the source to the atmosphere to not damage the atmosphere.
@TheNoiseySpectator
2 ай бұрын
@@luminiferous1960 Guys let's not forget that it could depend on How The Enterprise was destroyed.
@user-xq5ow2vi6o
2 ай бұрын
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@kunserndsittizen2655
2 ай бұрын
Me Spock was insufferable in THAT WHICH SURVIVES
@luminiferous1960
2 ай бұрын
Yes. Someone needed to tell the writers that when calculating estimates, it is poor scientific and engineering practice to report the estimate with more precision than is warranted by the uncertainties in the estimate since that would make the estimate seem more accurate than it is. The way they write Spock doing this with his estimates and correcting others when they do not do this, makes Spock seem foolish to scientists and engineers and insufferable to others. My professors in physics and engineering courses in the '70s and '80s often chastised students for reporting estimates with more precision than warranted. I read that Roddenberry contracted with Harvey P. Lynn, Jr., a RAND Corporation physicist, to provide technical advice for a nominal fee. So, shame on Harvey for not informing Roddenberry about reporting precision for estimates or shame on Roddenberry for not taking Harvey's advice on this if Harvey had informed him of this. The writers were also inconsistent with Spock getting or not getting joking word play, with him not only getting it in some episodes, but also using such word play himself in some episodes, and then in other episodes not getting it because of being too literal. I know that a lot of the inconsistencies between episodes are due to different writers writing different episodes, but Gene Roddenberry and D.C. Fontana should have enforced more consistency in the story editing process. That being said, Star Trek TOS was better at being scientifically plausible based on extrapolating from the science knowledge of the time than most other sci-fi shows at the time, and overall, Spock's character was mostly consistent throughout the series, excluding the two pilot episodes.
@kunserndsittizen2655
2 ай бұрын
@@luminiferous1960 Spock was insufferable in this episode because he did it all the time. Other episodes when he sparsely did it with Kirk he was amusing.
@luminiferous1960
2 ай бұрын
@@kunserndsittizen2655 That's true, but when he did the overly precise estimate thing with Kirk, it was clear that Kirk was amused by it and as Spock's superior officer, Kirk did not have to take Spock's irrelevant precision seriously. In this and some other episodes, when he does it in correcting and chastising subordinates who have to take it seriously, he is not only being insufferable, but also requiring them to do something that is not advisable in science and engineering.
@dug3557
2 ай бұрын
3rd season gets a lot of the characters wrong
@kunserndsittizen2655
2 ай бұрын
@@dug3557 true. The acting got worse too. Everyone makes fun of Shatner’s acting but he was really great in the first 2 seasons then got hammy in the 3rd and then on. Nimoy’s Spock wasn’t charming either.
@lucas5101
2 ай бұрын
Spook had some terrible lines in this episode , still A good show.
@TheNoiseySpectator
2 ай бұрын
I disagree. 😫
@neneshubby
2 ай бұрын
‘The lights of Zetar’ is probably my least favorite episode.
@CourtReacts-zm9yv
2 ай бұрын
Out of these two or the whole original series? Which episodes are in your top 3? 🙂
@neneshubby
2 ай бұрын
@@CourtReacts-zm9yv out of the original series. My 3 favorite are probably in no particular order. The doomsday machine Balance of terror The trouble with tribbles
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