LOL at having 'Tyrek is a horse' is in there 🤣. Glidus' greatest achievement.
@GreyMagee74
2 ай бұрын
Hopefully, if they go with the game show idea, they can bring Glidus in to host it like he did a couple of years ago.
@eric2500
2 ай бұрын
He might not be a horse right NOW, he was only last seen a horse!
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
Until these comments I didn't realize a single person was responsible for that theory, what a LEGACY like if that were me I would never shut up about it. Legend material, honestly
@ginjamutha
2 ай бұрын
Glidus and Alt Shift X just recently got a shout out from GRRM in his Not A Blog so maybe that might be up there as well for greatest achievement 😊
@autje1970
2 ай бұрын
@@ginjamutha I missed that! Very cool. When these two do a live stream together, it's always brilliant fun.
@joramsim
2 ай бұрын
God please make "Was this in the show or is this a bad fan theory" that would be straight up the best video on youtube
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
I'm sensing this might be a sensitive topic for people but it does sound fun for me, personally lmao
@eldric.stoneskin
2 ай бұрын
The evidence for Euron being a pupil of Bloodravens is that Euron mentions When he was a boy, he dreamt that he could fly, before saying “Perhaps we can fly. All of us. How will we ever know unless we leap from some tall tower?” Just like Bran did before having his fly or die dream, in which he is visited by the Three Eyed Crow. Euron also has one eye just as bloodraven does, both are Kinslayers and both are associated with Blood and Crows/Ravens, so it’s clear George is drawing some connection between them and could suggest that he was visited by Bloodraven in dream
@whitewolfofthewhills
2 ай бұрын
I legitimately think this theory is very likely to be true.
@PinkGrapefruit22
2 ай бұрын
There's also Bran in his fly or die dream looking down and seeing a pile of bones, hinting that there were many, many others before him who failed to "fly." It would also give some explanation to why Euron is so batshit insane, if he was having these wild visions at a young age.
@tomblaylock5850
Ай бұрын
The connections are definitely not 'loose' like they said in video. Another thing is his other eye is dark red and he has a red eye on his banner crowned by two crows - Blood raven's eye is red and so too weirwoods (I think). I've also seen an argument that having a ship manned by mutes would be extremely difficult to manage. So him being a warg and controlling them makes sense. And warging isn't just "North magic" because it is implied the Farwynds have warging abilities.
@SuzakuX
Ай бұрын
I think this is also another area where you can use the show as a sort of negative to guess where the book will go due to the obvious deviations. There is no Night King in the books, but Euron has Dragonbinder and Aeron's vision suggests him becoming a sort of god of death, raising wights from the charnel pits of Westeros, IIRC.
@e443productions9
2 ай бұрын
The best part about this video is seeing Bookborn go through several stages of processing these theories, slowly but surely the fandom is clinically insane, then she realizes she’s being red pilled and following the same path, only to then realize that she might actually be a secret Targaryen herself
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
Truly a glow up for me
@autje1970
2 ай бұрын
The great thing about the 'Aegon = Blackfyre' theory is the irony that the Blackfyres tried five rebellions, yet how do they get one on the throne? By pretending he is a Targaryen.
@timholland1764
2 ай бұрын
Also the nickname fAegon writes itself and is amazing...
@jessjess23brooks89
2 ай бұрын
@@timholland1764 Writing the names fAegon and JonConn together is stupidly satisfying.
@Serch_YB27
2 ай бұрын
It also would fit perfectly with Varys speech of power, and how it just lies where people believe it should be.
@autje1970
2 ай бұрын
@@Serch_YB27 Indeed. And part of that is that I think he will look the part. There was a very interesting line on the last episode of HotD Season 1, when Otto brings terms to Dragonstone and says about Aegon II: "He has the conqueror's name, he has the conqueror's sword, he wears the conqueror's crown." I think these will all apply to fAegon too: he has the name, there already is a theory that Blackfyre is in the chest hat Illyrio sends with the crew on the Shy Maid, and Aegon's crown went conspicuously missing in Dorne. Perfect time to turn up! (the Martells have it)
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
Them Targaryen's really know how to get a throne lol! This is my favorite theory though, it's one I would've never thought of but also seems SO PLAUSIBLE that I've just bought into it.
@FrshChees91
2 ай бұрын
I blame Arstan Whitebeard for all these "this character is this other character" theories lol
@scottwerner279
2 ай бұрын
Well, and Varys
@LincolnMaurice
2 ай бұрын
He's the only POV character who's presented as something else, but there's plenty of others in story.
@NateThe_Great24
2 ай бұрын
Hey man, with the _dawn_ came Qhorin Halfhand. ARTHUR DAAAAAAAAYYNNEE
@Sheild401
2 ай бұрын
There's a theory going around that George is going to finish Winds. Pretty outlandish if you ask me!
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
THIS ISN'T A THEORY!! IT'S CANON!!!!!!
@noemitamas4066
2 ай бұрын
That's nothing! Have you heard the one about him finishing A Dream of Spring? Now that's a straight up conspiracy theory! 😃
@jessjess23brooks89
2 ай бұрын
It's coming out in December. It is known. No, I'm not crazy. You're crazy. *Chugs wildfire*
@dgtlrn
2 ай бұрын
This is the year! It's got to be. It has to be
@henriquedaumas9934
2 ай бұрын
@@jessjess23brooks89 no prince aemond noooooooo
@NonAnonD
2 ай бұрын
“I think Jons parents are Rhaeger and Lyanna” “And do you think that’s how you say his name?” LOL
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
yall will never let me know peace, truly
@LincolnMaurice
2 ай бұрын
What... "Jon"?
@joshuabarnard5702
2 ай бұрын
@Bookborn If it makes you feel any better, George himself has some cursed pronunciations of his own words. Like “Dothrak-AI”
@0ussama01
2 ай бұрын
Man is asking the pertinent questions 😂
@autje1970
2 ай бұрын
'All Walders are the same time-travelling Walder' is from the same April Fool's Glidus video that 'Tyrek is a Horse' is from (at least that's how the fandom knows these theories).
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
The more I learn about this Glidus person the more of a legend they sounds like
@autje1970
2 ай бұрын
@@Bookborn Note that these are not HIS theories. Search KZitem for "Glidus april fools". It's a video where he plays a quiz with various well-known ASOIAF youtubers, and has them guess which theories are real and which are fake. It's hilarious, and you'll learn new crackpot theories.
@trisarathops
2 ай бұрын
@@Bookborn Omni-Walder is one that comes up surprisingly often with Glidus and Alt Schwift X, that Pictionary stream was fake theory gold 😂
@Fe22234
2 ай бұрын
The lines between "real" and "fake" theories are bluring
@thomasvrielink299
2 ай бұрын
@@Bookborn Then you'll surely be thrilled to learn you can check out the 5 multiple-hour livestreams of him and Alt Schwift X going through every single food description in the ASOIAF-series and giving them a ranking.
@jazzycat8917
Ай бұрын
The way Glidus has cemented "Tyrek is a horse" into the fandom consciousness is ICONIC. His legacy, his mind.
@gabrielandrade9806
2 ай бұрын
The reason "varys is a merman" is not there is because its not a theory.... Its the truth
@user-wu2br7cs7i
2 ай бұрын
Even if he is, what does it change? He's gonna give Bran legs in exchange for his warging powers like Ursula?
@WatashiMachineFullCycle
2 ай бұрын
Squishers rise up
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
Could someone please explain this theory to me I'm so interested
@IbbyMelbourne
2 ай бұрын
@@Bookborn yes, it's very simple, you see... have you ever seen Varys' feet? Didn't think so
@gabrielandrade9806
2 ай бұрын
@@Bookborn George likes his Lovecraft references... the old ones built the Black rocks scathered around planetos + merfolk are real and connected to that + varys is a mysterious mf = varys, whose feet are never shown, is actually a merman with an agenda. Least insane asoiaf theory
@Amantducafe
2 ай бұрын
Petition for a meeting between Bookborn, Glidus, Alt-shift X and his Arch-nemesis Alt Schwift X. Nothing would be more chaotic than 2 expert theorists talking to a ASOIAF theorist beginner.
@pyramidion5911
2 ай бұрын
Throw in the INC boys, and it's a party
@fedetrex
Ай бұрын
Add quinn and fantasy haven as well
@johnnygreenface4195
Ай бұрын
Alt shift and alt shwift can not be in the same stream. Bad things happen...
@TheTonyEntertainment
Ай бұрын
@@johnnygreenface4195 why?
@johnnygreenface4195
Ай бұрын
@@TheTonyEntertainment if you have to ask, you shouldn't know
@DrZaius3141
2 ай бұрын
"Why would the Measters want to get rid of the dragons?" Girl, have you seen what they do? Dragons are nukes/napalm, they are mobile war crimes. Death by dragon is described as perhaps the worst way to go. And due to their power they are a symbol and tool of tyranny. Getting rid of dragons might be the most noble cause in Westeros.
@JagmasterGeneral12374
2 ай бұрын
Not only that the dragons are the link of magic and prop up an incestuous magical dynasty
@scottwerner279
2 ай бұрын
Literally we will all get to watch in 4k the reason there shouldn’t be dragons now that HOTD is back on
@therecalcitrantseditionist3613
2 ай бұрын
While that is pretty true. Do you think thr maesters care about imposing tyranny? They are inextricably linked to the Faith. Who upended the Faith's rule? Targs with dragons. Throughout the history there was always this targ vs maester power struggle. So why wouldn't they want to destroy their adversaries biggest weapon?
@09hicktown
2 ай бұрын
If the dragons belonged to strict followers of the Seven who werent Valyrian who worshipped the institution of maesters then the maesters wouldnt have a problem with them existing. Targaryens not worshipping what the maesters believe they should is the problem, what the dragons represent means nothing because this is still a feudal system so technically tyranny is always present.
@LarthV
2 ай бұрын
@@09hicktown I am not sure if the maesters are actually into the Seven all that much. Not that it is not _possible_, since they are based in the same town and are both pets of the Hightowers, but the way the maesters are described does more imply an inclination towards anything supernatural _including_ the Seven.
@noemitamas4066
2 ай бұрын
You know you are in too deep when you recognized all three theories from the thumbnail 😂😂
@mrloadinggame
2 ай бұрын
Tyrek is a horse, Bolt-on baby!!, D+D=TTTF(time travelin Tyrion fetus) We need TWOW!!
@jessjess23brooks89
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, we're down bad lol
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
It's too bad you can't put that on a resume, that's skill
@DongusMcBongus
2 ай бұрын
I am here to pester about Glidus’ “Fake aSoIaF Theories” come, descend the abyss with us. The Tyrek bit a amazing but there are other amazing theories such as: “Robert Strong is just a new guy.” “The chief undergaelor of The Red Keep is secretly the High Sparrow.”
@readbykyle3082
2 ай бұрын
Robert Strong is just a new guy never stops being absolutely hilarious
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
I came here to comment but I see Kyle already said it - Kyle actually told me that one after I finished dance lol it's so funny
@DongusMcBongus
2 ай бұрын
@@readbykyle3082 I think the best comment is “whoever came up with the Robert Strong thing has the most anti-theory mindset ever.”
@Fenix-lr6ez
2 ай бұрын
About the Aegon Blackfyre theory, there's tons more of foreshadowing. In a Brienne chapter in a FFC, there's a conversation with Septon Meribald where he talks of a black dragon iron sigil that was thrown into a river, and some time later one of the dragon's heads came back, red with rust. This can be interpreted as a black dragon (a Blackfyre), coming back to Westeros seeming to be a red dragon (a Targaryen). There is also a conversation where Tyrin asks Illyrio about why the Golden Company broke his contract with Myr, and he responded "Some contracts are written in ink, some in blood", hinting at the purpose the Golden Company was formed for. And finally, George read a Tyrion chapter in 2005, where Tyrion is listening to Illyrio and Haldon Halfmaester speak in High Valyrian, and he catches only a few words, one of them sword, probably meaning Blackfyre, the sword of the Targaryen kings that was given to Daemon Blackfyre and after his death travelled to Essos with Bittersteel and the Golden Company. There's tons more, this is one of the main accepted theories I would say.
@PhosPhryne
2 ай бұрын
Except we're told outright that Aegon is just Aegon at the end of Dance... By a character who had literally no reason what so ever to lie - except to the reader, which is just bad writing.
@exactemphasis
Ай бұрын
I would say the biggest evidence in favor of this one is the fact that the first detailed description of the blackfyres we get in asoiaf is the same chapter as the first mention of young griff
@FlameQwert
Ай бұрын
aegon blackfyre is like one of those theories thats like, 99% likely to be true with ALL the foreshadowing
@PhosPhryne
Ай бұрын
@@FlameQwert Except we're told outright that Aegon is just Aegon at the end of Dance... By a character who had literally no reason what so ever to lie - except to the reader, which is just bad writing.
@kurasai6009
7 сағат бұрын
@@PhosPhryne if you dont mind, can you remind me who it was?
@Mwezi828
2 ай бұрын
A baby theory I love is that Jon's hair will turn white when he's resurrected (same as Stoneheart's) and he'll have the reddish cast to his eyes that Stoneheart does too. This will make him look more like a Targaryen, as well as resemble Ghost and the weirwoods.
@AprilMarvin
2 ай бұрын
It really pisses me off when people dismisses this theory saying it's outlandish. Like are you kidding me? Lady Stoneheart turned white. Theon, who doesn’t even have anything to do with magic turns white after his metaphorical resurrection and you are telling me that JON won't? Not only will his resurrection be much more magical than Lady Stoneheart but also it will be great hint toward his Targaryen lineage and he'd literally be the embodiment of the old gods and ghost; whose personality will marge with that of Jons. I think it would be ridiculous if Jon DIDN'T turn white.
@WatashiMachineFullCycle
2 ай бұрын
I 100% believe this is going to happen I also believe he's currently inside ghost and when he comes back he'll be more wolfish from being in him for so long
@warallied
2 ай бұрын
Martin said many times that if Jon was to be ressurected...it wouldnt be like he did in the show. Death isnt a small thing or "experience". you dont come back the same.
@WatashiMachineFullCycle
2 ай бұрын
@@waralliedthis exactly, We've seen it with Berric as well. Death changes you. I wouldn't be surprised actually if we no longer got Jon POVs after this.
@dogman6687
2 ай бұрын
Why does this not happen to Beric, then? I think that only happened to Stoneheart because a significant amount of time had passed, the body started to decompose. The longer you wait to resurrect, the less of the person will be there when they come back. It all depends on how long Jon’s body is waiting around imo
@morganhunt8051
2 ай бұрын
Something that i think goes overlooked a lot with the Grand Maester conspiracy is the context of Marwin's line about "who do you think killed all the dragons last time around?". He says it RIGHT after telling Sam that the Citadel would have killed Aemon if he made it to Oldtown. I think the line is more likely to be using "dragons" to refer to Targaryens, and its a reference to the maesters causing the downfall of the dynasty in general, not specifically the scaly fire doggos
@jesusHchristofwellington
2 ай бұрын
I get what you're saying but with there not being any targs near the end of the dynasty that u could even really speculate that the maesters killed i think and the fact that unlike the actual dragons the targs never went extinct i think Marwin was probably referring to the firebois, if George was going for what ur saying id say he'd have used something vaguer like "who do you think brought down the dragons last time"
@morganhunt8051
2 ай бұрын
@@jesusHchristofwellington that’s fairc I think my interpretation is still reasonable with the phrasing “killed” because it’s right after he talks about how Aemon would have been “killed”. There’s no reference of the Maesters killing dragons “”this time around”” but there is mention of them killing a Targaryen “”this time around””
@filipferencak2717
Ай бұрын
@@jesusHchristofwellingtonWhat do you mean? There's plenty of Targaryens you could speculate on maesters helping to take out. It's just that they use the Kimdisi philosophy, aka "your enemy has an enemy." Meaning, they are not going to directly poison them, they'll just create conflicts or misunderstandings that might get them killed. Oh and also if the Targ in question is doing sth stupid, they might wanna encourage that, so long as it's not harmful to their other interests.
@michaelhenry3234
Ай бұрын
@@jesusHchristofwellington Not directly assassinated, but they potentially orchestrated Robert's Rebellion via marriage alliances and influencing key lords, like Rickard Stark.
@Serch_YB27
2 ай бұрын
LEMONGATE 🍋 is real. Even in the Misery chapter 2 Lannister guards discuss how lemons dont grow in Braavos, even not in KL, just in the south
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
You don't have to tell me twice, I've already bought into lemon gate!
@LarthV
2 ай бұрын
@@Bookborn The fun thing is that the guy who popularised this theory, Preston Jacobs, is actually speaking about reaching out to you to talk to somebody with a fresh view on the series and talk about your experience reading it just recently the first time. So you might be in a great position to dig deeper into this one... Personally, I am on the same page as you with that: The situation with the lemons is _extremely_ suspicious, but some of the later conclusions Preston Jacobs presented in his original theory videos are a real stretch...
@jadex1058
Ай бұрын
@@LarthV PJ did a video interviewing Bookborn
@LarthV
Ай бұрын
@@jadex1058 Yeah - but I was faster. Made that comment literally a day before the video came out 😅
@DLites151
Ай бұрын
@@LarthV Preston tried to sleep with Bookborn by telling her "It's okay, I'll let you abort the child"
@IbbyMelbourne
2 ай бұрын
Bookborn's final conclusion after all this: "The fandom's in a sad place." Lol
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
And I'm right there with ya'll, I'm quickly spiraling
@andrewplehn4805
2 ай бұрын
@@Bookborn It really doesn't take long!
@jessjess23brooks89
2 ай бұрын
It's like we're all going on a trip through the House of the Undying, except we never find the exit.
@DeCode343
27 күн бұрын
Well.. I'd say she has eyes to see and simply used them😅
@abelsampaio389
2 ай бұрын
About Euron: He says in the kingsmoot that he had a dream where he fell off a tower and could fly, as a child. That is very similar to Bran's story, and that is the connection between Brynden and Euron.
@Otsego
2 ай бұрын
Indeed. This is likely where his Crow symbolism came from. He also has a lot of literary parallels to Blood Raven. The other evidence for possible Warg/Green magic is his ship. The Silence is crewed by mutes. All slaves who's tongues have been removed. There must be some form of deeper communication as they never show any kind of sign language but are in lock step with each other. Also the Iron Islands quite possibly descend from the First men like the Starks. As far as Regional magic goes, there are many who blend or try to collect different forms. Marwyn the Mage is the best example of this but Blood Raven himself was a mix of Targaryen dragon magic and Blackwood northern warg/greenseer magic.
@IbbyMelbourne
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I'll be honest, the Bloodraven connections with Euron are kind of on-the-nose, it's really not just a crazy theory.
@WatashiMachineFullCycle
2 ай бұрын
Yes, this is the strongest evidence to me that Euron and Bloodraven have a connection. The other stuff is supplementary. I'm on the fence about him warging but there are enough breadcrumbs there (the chilling prologue of dance, the fact that he cuts the tongues of his crew so they can't tell anybody, ect) but it's not enough to fully convince me just yet
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
My Euron disdain was mostly for the Daario connection - these parallels are MUCH more fascinating tbh and I wouldn't deny those like directly out of line. We were focusing on the sillier ones - like Euron is in the dusky woman, which seems far fetched to me in a way these theories you are discussing, don't.
@WatashiMachineFullCycle
2 ай бұрын
I think there's a very very VERY slim chance that he could warg into the dusky woman just because he's a sicko pervert that likes to fixate on his brothers But I don't think George is going that route
@StormbornDragon
2 ай бұрын
“ there is a sizable community that thinks Quinton is still alive” everyone say thank you preston 😂
@MetalJesus157
2 ай бұрын
He definitely could be...
@LincolnMaurice
2 ай бұрын
If he could bring back Tyrion and Arya back at their "death chapters", Quentyn is just as possible, if not likely.
@VinnieMF
2 ай бұрын
I don't believe in the theory but also, mechanically, it's not very hard to imagine a circumstance that makes it sensible. It's not outlandish, I simply fail to see the purpose in it.
@morganhunt8051
2 ай бұрын
@@LincolnMaurice As ASX once said "George does have a tendency to do fakeout deaths with his characters. So based on that, itd be perfectly reasonable to think that Quentyn might be alive. BUT HERES THE IMPORTANT DIFFERENCE. After that chapter, we get a chapter where he is dying. And then dead!" and Glidus adds "And his friends go 'yep thats Quentyn and he's dead"
@MasterPoppers
2 ай бұрын
@@morganhunt8051 But Dany herself said "burnt bones prove nothing".
@jaimelannister1797
2 ай бұрын
My favorite theory that I truly believe and really hope is true is that the wizard guy in the cave (Bloodraven) is NOT the three eyed crow that Bran sees in his dreams. When Bran asks Bloodraven if he is the three eyed crow, Bloodraven is confused, and thinks Bran is talking about the nights watch. The children of the forest also don’t refer to him as the three eyed crow, but instead as the last greenseer, and don’t seem to know what the three eyed crow is. Same with Coldhands, he calls him the last greenseer. In Bran’s dreams, there’s the three eyed crow, but there’s also the heart trees calling to him. This is actually bloodraven. Also why have bloodRAVEN be the three eyed CROW. GRRM almost definitely created the backstory for bloodraven after the three eyed crow existed already, so why make him associated with ravens and not crows. Bloodraven is always warging into ravens, like teaching Bran to fly, Mormont’s raven, or the ravens in Theon’s sample chapter. The 3EC is future Bran, visiting his younger self to guide him on his journey of becoming a greenseer
@praetorxyn
2 ай бұрын
100% this. I'm baffled people miss this. It's so obvious.
@Levacque
2 ай бұрын
Think about how confused Bran was when Jojen told him Bran appeared as a winged and chained wolf in his green dreams. People don't know what their dream avatar looks like, that's why Bloodraven was surprised - "Three-Eyed Crow" is not a phrase he would have heard before. Not to mention that Bran unknowingly uses terms that intimately describe Bloodraven's past lives as spymaster and Night's Watchman . That combined is enough to be caught off guard without him needing to be a whole new character.
@jaimelannister1797
2 ай бұрын
@@Levacque but what about the heart trees in Bran’s dreams calling to him. I can’t remember which chapter exactly it is but Bran has a dream where the heart tree is calling to him, and the three eyed crow is trying to turn him away from the heart tree. They’re in conflict with each other. Plus the three eyed crow flies around in Bran’s dreams and pecks at him. In Bran’s first dream he asks the 3EC if he’s really a crow, and the crow acknowledges the question with “are you really falling?” So it should be aware that it’s a crow in Bran’s dreams
@jessjess23brooks89
2 ай бұрын
It's also a connection to Euron who calls himself Crow's Eye. It could be Bran, it could be a force darker than Bloodraven contacting both Bran and Euron. Maybe Bran is that darker force in the future.
@praetorxyn
2 ай бұрын
@@jessjess23brooks89 Euron also has that speech about how do we know we couldn’t fly unless we jumped from a tall tower to see, and he mentions dreams of flying as a child or something like that. This indicates he’s either the crow himself or more likely associated with it.
@hannahbun
2 ай бұрын
Both kyles not getting the joke about their names😭
@pyramidion5911
2 ай бұрын
How square
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
I was laughing sooo hard while I was editing, the absolute SILENCE after I say that, devastating
@Serch_YB27
2 ай бұрын
My favorite plausible theory (head cannon in my mind) is that during the purple wedding Littlefinger acted alone, posioned the pie (not the wine) and his tatget was Tyrion, not Joffrey, and he just rolled with it once Sansa explained what happened and he heard the bells signaling the king was dead. It makes way more sense as LF needs Tyrion dead for many reasons: 1) He wants Sansa single (to marry her either to himself or to Harry). 2) Tyrion claimed he knows who killed Jon Arryn and LF heard 3) Tyrion knows about the dagger incident 4) Tyrion didnt fulfill his promise of the Sweet Robin - Myrcella marriage pact while being hand. 5) LF actually was the one that hired the jousting darwves, something that was sure to cause conmotion and a conflict between Tyrion and Joffrey 6) I think even if Olenna was the mastermind, the pie was poisoned and not the chalice as we were told that Margaery was drinking from that
@swaggerdagger5168
2 ай бұрын
Well I mean, what about the whole thing with Sansa’s hairnet though
@Serch_YB27
2 ай бұрын
@@swaggerdagger5168 yeah the dontos and the hairnet part would still be the same, I just don't see Olena involved. Yeah, she touched the hairnet, but I think that could be a red-hering and during the commotion of the jousting and the pie another LF crony could've grabbed the poison unnoticed.
@DeCode343
27 күн бұрын
He did not act alone, he told Sansa the hairnet thing with Olenna....
@Muckrackerz
2 ай бұрын
What about Alleras = Sarella? Patchface is a prophet of the Drowned God. Also: Bloodraven sent the direwolves and is warging Ghost in particular. In AGoT, Jon only finds Ghost because as the Starks are leaving the site of the Direwolf mother's carcass, Jon (only Jon) hears a sound. So he goes back and finds Ghost, a bit of a distance away from where the other wolf cubs were. Thing is...Ghost is mute. He doesn't make a sound. Ever. Also: Luwin does talk about his valyrian chain in Clash.
@sammcclure1553
2 ай бұрын
I put Alleras = Sarella almost into the Sandor = Gravedigger category. It isn't quite confirmed, but once you know what you're looking for, there's a ton of evidence to support it and it likely just hasn't been revealed yet.
@davel7791
2 ай бұрын
George does have a “Wiki guy” and gal, too - Elio and Linda. They wrote most of The World of Ice and Fire. George in interviews has said he calls Elio when he has to remember details and lore about a character or house that he’s bringing back into the story. He said Elio has an encyclopedic knowledge of his world.
@readbykyle3082
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I misunderstood what she was asking until we already had moved on 😂 I was thinking more like story beats and not details
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
I'm very relieved to hear this tbh lol
@TheTonyEntertainment
Ай бұрын
@@Bookborn because Elio could finish the books instead? 😉
@willherondale6367
2 ай бұрын
19:06, little correction, the Blackfires died out ( _in_ _the_ _male_ _line_ ) in the 5th Blackfire rebellion when Barriston Selmy killed Maelys the Monsterous, not when Daemon Blackfire died in the first rebellion, or else there wouldn't have been four more!
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
I need to reread dunk and egg and fire and blood before I'm smart enough for this fact to mean much to me, because at this point I couldn't have answered any question about these rebellions even at gunpoint ☠
@nzcamel3
2 ай бұрын
@@Bookborn also check out the World of Ice and Fire as it goes over events that will be in Fire & Blood part 2, though in lesser detail. It talks more of the Blackfyre rebellions. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_of_Ice_%26_Fire
@gokbay3057
2 ай бұрын
@@nzcamel3 Worldbook my beloved.
@raaefahmed7968
2 ай бұрын
Honestly my favorite theory is Frey pies, which is basically that Wyman Manderly captured two of Walter Frey"s sons (I forgot their names), and when he serves the pies to the Freys, they actually have his sons baked into them
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
Oh I felt this is canon, while reading I knew something was cooked into those pies and was informed who it was. Seems very clear to me!
@joeyken81
2 ай бұрын
@@Bookborn Then he asked for the Rat Cook song to be played by lovely old Abel
@blackeyedlily
2 ай бұрын
@@BookbornYes. I look through the comments to make sure someone mentioned this, as it is associated with your thoughts on the breaking of guest rights will have serious consequences for the Freys. I hope someone has also told you that the Red Wedding is something that Martin found inspiration from two historical events from Scotland that involved the slaughter of guests when Scottish Clans were warring factions. One was called the Black Dinner and the other was the Massacre of Glencoe.
@playerkit
2 ай бұрын
One Lysa theory, posited by David Lightbringer, is that she was addicted to the Milk of the Poppy. This addiction was supplied and nourished by Littlefinger, to further foster her dependence upon him. The evidence for this is emphasized by the relatively late breastfeeding that we're shown. Sweet Robin has been getting a downstream dosage of Milk of the Poppy for YEARS, which explains his unexplained symptoms. They're withdrawal symptoms, that are getting worse now that Lysa isn't breastfeeding him anymore. It's also why Petyr is having Alayne give him more Milk of the Poppy than the Maester would sign-off on. Lil dude has a built-up tolerance for the drug through repeated exposure over an extended time. There's nothing magical going on with him.
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
Were we expecting something magical going on with robert?I just always assumed he was a spoiled/pampered kid who also had a health issue. That being said, the withdrawl idea is a super interesting one; although Lysa never seemed particularly sleepy to me so I don't know how milk of the poppy works into it.
@connoraslett2836
2 ай бұрын
I definitely think it’s possible Sweet Robin has green dreams or is magical in some way. For me it was when he heard Marillion’s cries and no one else in the Eyrie did. I then thought back and realised he sits on a weirwood throne, it isn’t much really at all but I like the idea that like his cousin he’s got a drop of magical blood in him. Edit: I also find it odd that a frail young kid can survive the amount of sweetsleep he’s consumed. We’re told by Maester Coleman that the quantities have to be exact as it’s deadly in larger doses. Sweet Robin chugs it down often to no problem, he’s having his green dreams suppressed. I wear my tin foil hat proudly so take this with a grain of salt lol
@WatashiMachineFullCycle
2 ай бұрын
Lysa and sweet robin are so fascinating, and I love David's ideas there. I think Littlefinger is messing with his dosages so he can kill him off at a time of his choosing without putting any suspicion on himself. If anything goes awry he can EASILY blame Maester Coleman.
@DeCode343
27 күн бұрын
Sweet Robin is most likely as he is because Lysa was made to drink Moontea by her father after she slept with Littlefinger when they were very young still. Moontea is (in universe) known to have the possible side effect of making one unable to conceive children. Robin is just a lucky outcome to be alive. Bealish gives him too much drugs so he dies, and Bealish gets to rule the Vale. No need to jump through so many hoops here😅
@Charles-In-Charge
2 ай бұрын
“All Walders are the same time traveling Walder” is a fake theory that Glidus made up for his April Fools quiz show in 2022
@kendershot
2 ай бұрын
The Maester Lewin Valerian Steel Link scene was in the books. I think that is where he talks about the students being locked in a room and trying to light glass candles, but they only cut their hands.
@DongusMcBongus
2 ай бұрын
Was going to comment this.
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the clarification!!!
@f_f_f_8142
2 ай бұрын
You are right, Luwin tells Bran about his valyrian steel link in ACoK Bran IV, but he does not mention the glass candle. Trying to light the glass candle is something all maesters go through separate from forging a valyrian steel link.
@arjanrijvers562
2 ай бұрын
The Euron bloodraven connection theory is actually pretty solid I think, its more than just eyes and crows. And it helps make sense of the eldritch arcane threat that is Euron.
@jessjess23brooks89
2 ай бұрын
Yup. Magic overlaps a ton in the text. Bloodraven is the very embodiment of that. But it wouldn't even have to overlap. Warging isn't just a Stark trait, but a Northern and wildling trait. Most Northmen and wildlings have first men lineage. Bloodraven gets his warging abilities from family lineage from the one of the few first men left below the neck. The Iron Islands has first men origins. To really plug into the theory, it's thought bloodraven put out his feelers, tapped Euron and backed all the way off when he realized how horrible he is. Euron looks all over the world and into all religions to find a way to tap into that power again and instead finds many different ways to commune with many different "gods".
@MasterPoppers
2 ай бұрын
Lemongate is a very deep rabbit hole and can go in different directions depending on your perspective. But the crux of it is that Dany's memories of her childhood can't really be trusted. And that point is inarguable.
@GreyMagee74
2 ай бұрын
God i wish you got Glidus for this, specifically for Tyrek!😂
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
I just found out about them today and I cannot believe they have popularized so many legendary and hilarious theories, I'm in awe
@sammcclure1553
2 ай бұрын
@@Bookborn I believe he's also the one who came up with the Omni-Walder theory.
@maxt5319
2 ай бұрын
On the fake Blackfyre theory, my personal favourite idea is that Aerion Brightflame's descendant was meant to be the "mummer's dragon", so likely the fake Aegon. This is because a) Hedge Knight introduces this new Brightflame faction, including its own unique arms b) Brightflame is mentioned several times in ACOK, which is of course where we see the "mummer's dragon" first mentioned. I like this because it fits with his gardener mentality. He started writing about the Blackfyres, found them more compelling, and then phased out the Brightflame mentions in favour of the Blackfyres. People have also been theorising that Aegon isn't dead since the first book. I 100% believe in Jojen paste. Bran III in ADWD is such a dark chapter, there's so many different times that cannibalism is brought up throughout his story, and it completely fits within the idea of sacrifice being required for magic. This is especially true for Old Gods magic, where people would leave human sacrifices on the weirwoods. All the signs point to it being true, in my opinion.
@WatashiMachineFullCycle
2 ай бұрын
Oooh I've never thought about the Brightflame twist, I really like that even though I do think it's heading for Blackfyre origins instead, but that very much fits George's gardener mentality I totally agree
@Levacque
2 ай бұрын
Jojen Paste is the kind of thing that your forebrain naturally rejects at first because it's so unpleasant, but once you give it a chance you realize it's the only possibility. It took me about two weeks to come to terms with it, same with my friend when I told him. We hung out and I told him, he thought it was ridiculous, then he brought it up two weeks later unprompted. Jojen Paste gets into your psyche and opens your mind to the truth, just like it did with Bran.
@maxt5319
2 ай бұрын
@@Levacque That's a very good way of putting it. It's a very dark outcome for Jojen and for Bran. Jojen has lived his life knowing his death and what will happen, so it adds a layer of horror on top of the entire thing. GRRM is a very accomplished horror writer, so I wouldn't be surprised at all if Jojen paste is true, I certainly think it's the most likely outcome. There's a scene in Fevre Dream, a vampire horror novel that GRRM wrote, which is so awful that I honestly can expect anything from him. If you've not read it, give it a try.
@joshuabarnard5702
2 ай бұрын
Also, with “the mummer’s dragon”, there is also the historical inspiration from the War of the Roses of Perkin Warbeck claiming to be the presumed dead Prince Richard. So I think George always planned for there to be someone claiming to be Aegon. Whether that person was a Brightflame, a pisswater prince, or (as he likely later settled on) a Blackfyre.
@pyramidion5911
2 ай бұрын
I think I may be the only person who believes the mummers dragon is actually Daenerys.
@illuvattar
Ай бұрын
Sam's latest chapter is 19 years old. You know what's even crazier? Dany has been in Meereen since the Clinton administration.
@sebastian3217
2 ай бұрын
One of my favourite theories is that Sweet Robin is the son of Lysa and Littlefinger. It is fairly obvious that that old Jon Arryn had fertility problems with his multiple wives and all. Additionally, Sweetrobin resembles Baelish much more than the handsome, strong, blonde Jon Arryn. Not only is this theory plausible, it has some very fun ramificatons. I like to think that Jon Arryn was killed because he was snooping around, trying to uncover the parentage of Tommen, Myrcella and Joffrey and it just hit a bit too close to home for Littlefinger. In fact, maybe he figured it out and his famous last words "The seed is strong" was actually referring to Robin!! (ok, thats definitely a stretch). It's also just so sick and twisted (and totally GRRM) for Littlefinger to poison his own son with "sweetsleep" It also kinda makes the Alayne story a fun ironic twist of itself! Sweet Robin wants to marry Alayne, but Alayne tells him that it isn’t proper for a noble like him to marry a bastard. If Sweet Robin is Littlefinger’s son, then that statement becomes true, but in the opposite direction. Alayne, who is the actual noble Sansa posing as Littlefinger’s daughter, couldn’t marry the bastard Sweet Robin, who is actually Lysa and Littlefinger’s bastard son. What do you think?
@nolangerrans6083
Ай бұрын
Yeah this is another one of my personal favorites
@Levacque
2 ай бұрын
To be fair, BOLT-ON was an extremely tongue-in-cheek reddit post deliberately making fun of elaborate and farfetched theorizing on the site 😂 it was all about showing how mundane pieces of information collected directly from the source could be assembled with reasonable logic into an unhinged and unreasonable theory.
@abelsampaio389
2 ай бұрын
About tyrion's hair: It's actually described in the first book that Tyrion's hair is "so blond it seems white".
@eric2500
2 ай бұрын
...with black hairs throughout -like goth boy from Dorne!
@jessjess23brooks89
2 ай бұрын
I fully subscribe to the Tyrion=chimera theory. Meaning he was a twin and one twin had Tywin's DNA and the other had Aerys. Tyrion then absorbed the other twin. It's crazy, but one of those crazy things that goes way off the edge and circles back to plausible.
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
I'm so torn about this one. On the one hand, really fascinating if Tywin's disdain is in part because Tyrion isn't actually his son, and also just being a Targaryen has a lot of impact on the story. On the other hand, I feel like that might be a repetitive theme considering we have something similar with Catelyn/Jon and I'm not sure it would really help Tyrion's character arc in interesting ways.
@kushmon9992
2 ай бұрын
@@Bookborn I subscribe to this theory. I think the similarities Tyrion has with Jon actually give it strength. Both are raised by men not their biological fathers but are still their sons. Jon takes Neds values and Tyrion is said to be Tywins son. Theme of Nature vs Nurture. Tyrion=targ is also needed for Dany and the three headed dragon prophecy from Rhaegar. Also Jon, Dany, Tyrion mothers all died in childbirth.
@LarthV
2 ай бұрын
@@Bookborn I think there is also the "intermediate" theory that Tyrion is what is called a "chimaera", i.e. in the womb he was created with both Aerys and Tywins sperms involved - something that apparently happens in nature, albeit very rarely. That way you can have _both_: Him being a Targaryen to a certain degree (and thus able to interact with dragons more safely, for instance), and being the son and killer of Tywin...
@greenjr06
2 ай бұрын
I’m 100% onboard with the “Aegon is a Blackfyre” theory, and also 100% convinced that prior to coming up with the concept of the Blackfyre rebellions, the Targaryen Pretender (hinted at in the House of the Undying vision) was supposed to be a Brightflame, descended from Aerion Targaryen after he departed Westeros in the first Dunk and Egg novella.
@gokbay3057
2 ай бұрын
Yup, before Blackfyres were a thing George was focusing on Brightflames as the shady Targ cadet branch.
@trndom
2 ай бұрын
I enjoy the "Quentyn is alive" theory, just because it'd be insane if Quentyn not only survives, but claims one of the dragons.
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
That would be wild, but I just LOVE the idea of him being like "I have targaryan blood! time to go get a dragon!" and then being burnt to a crisp, like the comedy, it's perfect.
@poppag8281
2 ай бұрын
didn't prestan jacobs create the "quintin is alive" theory?
@MasterPoppers
2 ай бұрын
@@poppag8281 I think he just gave it more life. I don't know if he was the original author of the theory. Dornish Master Plan was all him, though.
@hoya1178
12 күн бұрын
lol, Quentyn is dead and he won't claim any of the dragons.
@StormbornDragon
2 ай бұрын
I love the “a horse“ theories because once you read the first one you kind of realize how many times George says someone is “a horse” and of course we all know what he saying, but you really can’t unread it like that after a certain point imo 😂
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
Oh it's absolutely horrible, I will never read that word the same again, it'll be like a beacon every time it's used
@wingsfan4795
Ай бұрын
Glidus has a video chronicling all the characters who are actually horses, including instances where several characters are collectively “ahorse” as in one single horse
@DismasII
2 ай бұрын
My favorite theory yall didnt talk about is probably the Grand Northern Conspiracy. I also love the Night Lamp and Red Wedding 2.0 theories.
@readbykyle3082
2 ай бұрын
I messaged her right after and was like "can't believe we forgot to talk about the Grand Northern Conspiracy"! That's my favorite theory 😭 it's probably why I forgot to talk about it because to me it's not a theory lmao it's real
@josheckles9257
2 ай бұрын
The pigeon theory was wayyyy better when it was Ned wargs into the pigeon that Arya kills😂
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
This has vision 😂
@Ashley-ivy
2 ай бұрын
@@Bookborn the best part about this theory is that (at least in the show scenes I've seen it based on) Arya kills the pigeon before Ned dies. Not only is he a pigeon warg, he's a time-travelling pigeon warg. 10/10 theory, absolutely perfect
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
@@Ashley-ivy idk why but the time traveling never gets less funny (although I had a chat with Preston this week that shook me to my core about how time traveling is like...actually present in the series so maybe I shouldn't laugh too much about time traveling fetus' and pigeons!)
@gokbay3057
2 ай бұрын
@@Bookborn Oh, you had a chat with Preston? Did he bring up George's other work?
@TheTonyEntertainment
Ай бұрын
@@Bookborn what did you think about Preston?
@StormbornDragon
2 ай бұрын
i’m so happy you ended up making this video! You can join the song of ice and fire theory brain rot with the rest of us haha. going 12 years + without a sequel certainly can do something to the theorists.
@chicken2nite351
10 күн бұрын
My favourite theory I thought up while reading The Hedge Knight years ago is that Varys is a secret Targaryen which is why he shaves his head, why Aerys trusted him, and why the Red Priest burned his member for their magic.
@laynewebb5986
2 ай бұрын
Regarding Tyrion Targaryen and his blonde hair: When Jon meets Tyrion he says his hair is "so blond it seemed white", so his hair does seem like it could be Targaryen silver mistaken for blonde. While Tyrion Targaryen could be a big end series reveal and there is some decent evidence for it, I'm personally on the side of there being no answer and it's purposely ambiguous. Tywin died saying he never believed Tyrion was his son, but he couldn't prove it. Tyrion saying that he is "[Tywin] writ small" is GRRM telling us it doesn't matter who Tyrion's biological father is, Tywin was his real father regardless. I think knowing either way would spoil that a little.
@MeeraReads
Ай бұрын
Little does she know that there is an entire corner of the fandom that plays a gameshow based on creating a new unhinged theory every week
@KaiHung-wv3ul
2 ай бұрын
My favorite theory that wasn't mentioned? Both are Winds theories, one is that Obara Sand is going to team up with Darkstar and Euron to sack Oldtown, and the other is the Nightlamp theory, or that Stannis is going to sink the Frey army using a false beacon.
@WatashiMachineFullCycle
2 ай бұрын
I am FULLY on the Nightlamp theory train, and it's going to be awesome
@KevinHwoarang
Ай бұрын
This was alot of fun to watch, you're reaction to the whole Euron being Dario was funny AF. Probably my 3 most favorite theories that you guys didn't cover are: 1. Mance Rayder, Qhorin HalfHand and Tormund Giantsbane are actually Arthur Dayne, Oswell Whent and Gerold Hightower. They don't have two-handed swords in the wildling army, Mance wanted to know what it was like feeling Dawn in his hands again. Oswell is a bad actor, he's even harr harr-ing Jon at some point. I think what happened at the tower of Joy was a conversation, not a fight. 2. Shae is Sarella Sand, one of Oberyn Martell's daughters and she was in the battlecamp probably through Littlefinger, FOR Tywin. We know Tywin is a hypocrit, he has tunnels built from the Red Keep to a brothel. Shae was with a knight of no relevance to throw off people, so that when Tywin wanted, he could have easy access. The other thing about Shae is she seems to have been Bowed, Bent and Broken by either Littlefinger or Oberyn... AND she see's through Varys' glamour. (giving credit to the Merman-theory). 3. I know you discussed Jon's mom, but for the last one I'm going to point something out rarely anyone seems to have spotted. Jon is Ned's firstborn son, and you can see it as early as the group discovering the pack of direwolves. Bran and Robb are both legitimate kids with fairly reasonable points for wanting to keep the pups but are declined. But the bastard brings up a math equation and a symbolic suggestion and everyone gets a pup? Ned listens to his first-born. Jon was in Winterfell before Catlyn arrived with Robb.
@connoraslett2836
2 ай бұрын
I will die on the hill that Euron is both a warg and former student of Bloodraven, or at least Bloodraven contacted Euron through his dreams. There are references to Ironborn being able to warg into seals and whales (I believe it’s the Farwynds of Lonely Light but I could be wrong) so it’s not just a Northern magic but First Men specifically, or at least that’s how I view it. But even then Targs/Valyrians seem to be able to warg their dragons or at the very least have a psychic connection. Also Euron’s ship the Silence is crewed by mutes and it would be impossible to man a ship without communication so I believe he wargs his crew. With regards to Bloodraven. In a Victarion chapter after the Kingsmoot, Euron tells Vic about a dream he had when he was younger that sounds almost identical to Bran’s awakening after his fall from the tower. Then there’s the surface level connections with crows and all that but I believe it’s very strongly hinted through that conversation about the dream. This comment might be a bit sloppy because I’m not giving direct quotes from the books, but it is in there. Just had to pause the video in the section about Euron/Daario to leave my two cents. I don’t believe that Euron is Daario though that’s too farfetched even for an admittedly tin foil fan myself.
@Levacque
2 ай бұрын
I think it's likely that some of the people Bloodraven reached out to couldn't properly tolerate the magical awakening. Euron got access to the skill set, but lost his mind.
@connoraslett2836
2 ай бұрын
I agree completely. In Bran’s flying dream we see the bones of dreamers who could not ‘fly’ themselves. So that scamp Brynden has been trying this with others prior to Bran. I like the theory that Euron will bring about the long night/break the wall and it will all be because of Bloodraven’s tampering. Seems fitting that all his scheming and dirty work will blow up in his face.
@aminaa5824
2 ай бұрын
You should watch David Lightbringers symbolism videos, it really shows how much attention to detail George has about everything he writes
@WatashiMachineFullCycle
2 ай бұрын
Seconded! Sometimes David gets a little lost in the sauce but for the most part he's incredibly knowledgeable about both real world mythology and ASoIaF lore. A lot of his theories are SOLID
@levilevi9621
2 ай бұрын
Yeah imo he’s the best overall theory crafter even if some of his stuff gets a little out there.
@Oximb
2 ай бұрын
He's sort of the worst in the fandom, spreading a problematic rule: the more far-fetched the theory, the more likely it is to be true.
@WatashiMachineFullCycle
2 ай бұрын
@@OximbI've been watching David for years now and I don't remember him ever saying this? Not to tell you that you're wrong in case I'm forgetting something, and he does like to explore some far out stuff but I don't remember him saying that, or being toxic at all tbh
@jeffbachman2949
2 ай бұрын
@@Oximbhe was also ya accused of sexual harassment
@Serch_YB27
2 ай бұрын
-The main "evidence" argument about the Bolt-on theory that you didnt mention is the EYES. Roose apparently can glamour the skin but he cant glamor his eyes and he has unique grey eyes. That's why he chose Ramsay, because he also has those very rare grey eyes. - In regards o Tyrion being a secret Targaryen i think the more interesting angle would be if Jaime and Cersei are actually Aerys bastards and Tyrion was a Lannister. The tragic George-esque irony of having Tywin rejecting his only trueborn child.
@DrAwesome43
2 ай бұрын
Tyrion as Aerys' son deserves way more discussion, if only because supplemental materials hint so strongly at it. The author has blatantly invited us to consider this theory. World of Ice and Fire has lines that are included purely to make us consider this theory. So we should consider it. Like it or not, it fits the narrative extremely well. It is a twist that would have significant impacts on all the major themes of the story. 1) Identity - Tyrion's character is defined by his relationship with his father. When Tyrion is first introduced, he says his famous line: "all dwarves are bastards in their father's eyes." Tyrion thinks his father hates him because he is a dwarf, but it's really because Tyrion is the son of Tywin's bitter rival. Tyrion's relationship with his father is directly compared to Jon's. 2) Morally gray characters - Tywin is the ultimate villain, but we've never seen his point of view. Raising this child as his own is sympathetic. His hate for Tyrion is wrong, but understandable. By lying about Tyrion's parentage and bearing the personal insult of having a dwarf child, Tywin saved the child's life and prevented a war. On the other hand, Ned is a hero. But by lying about Jon's parentage and his sister's love affair, Ned selfishly protected the status of his house and started a horribly destructive war. Tywin is not pure evil and Ned is not pure good. 3) 3 heads of the dragon - It seems we need 3 Targaryen riders for the 3 heads of the dragon (according to all the prophecies and such). Danaerys is explicitly one of them. Jon is the obvious secret Targaryen, and Fake Aegon is the red herring Targaryen. We need a third, unexpected to replace Aegon when he turns out to be fake. People want Tyrion to be Lannister because he is so much like Tywin... This twist is where GRRM gets to make his point about nature vs. nurture. DNA does not determine who people are. Tyrion IS Tywin's son, because that's his life experience, his own identity. Tyrion and Tywin have different notions of Tyrion's identity. The genetic connection between Targs and dragon magic is related to blood sacrifice and evil in nature. Many people died in Robert's Rebellion, ultimately for Jon. So Jon has some evil blood sacrifice magically attached to him. Tyrion does not have this evil because Tywin protected him from it. IDK how this will play out in the magical war of Ice and Fire to end the books, but it is a way to tie all the themes together.
@alibomaye4536
2 ай бұрын
Tyrion dreams of dragons as a child and becomes infatuated with them, is devastated when he finds out they died out and goes on to read every book he can find about them. Tywin also doesn’t talk to his sister for half a year when she tells him Tyrion is his true son. He also has 1 green eye and one black eye (black purple same thing…). I’m undecided on it but there’s definitely some evidence
@DrAwesome43
2 ай бұрын
@@blaubeer8039 I don’t see the need for plausible deniability. Tywin could simply say these hurtful lies if he wants, he doesn’t need to prove to anyone that they are truths. He never claims that Tyrion is Aerys’ son, or that Joanna slept with other people. Tyrion has no question about his parentage. It seems more like Tywin keeps a secret but blurts out these things in moments of extreme anger.
@09hicktown
2 ай бұрын
Except Tywin would never do anything sympathetic or bear a personal insult for any reason though. Tywin crushes anything that gets in his way and reacts in extreme ways at the slightest insult. Tywin would never save a childs life for an altruistic reason either. Tywin only cares about one thing and thats that people bootlick the Lannisters, admitting his wife had a bastard would make Tywin and by extension the Lannisters look bad, if Tyrion is a secret Targ Tywin didnt know about it.
@DrAwesome43
2 ай бұрын
@@09hicktown This just proves that it would be a good twist on Tywin's character.
@Grumbo-
2 ай бұрын
YESSSS im so happy you're going deeper down the rabbit hole. Thank you for this video!
@IbbyMelbourne
2 ай бұрын
Hotpie is the prince who was promised!
@PristianoPenaldoSUIIII
2 ай бұрын
Born amidst salt and smoke, much like the pies he bakes
@jessjess23brooks89
2 ай бұрын
But also Ser Pounce.
@davidjones272
Ай бұрын
It is known
@Serryy
2 ай бұрын
About Euron: I dont believe Euron is Daario, but to be fair to the theorists out there who do, Euron cant just force himself on Dany. She has an army, she has guards, she has dragons. Also, Euron ABSOLUTELY would pretend. Hes pretending all the time hes with the ironborn. In "The Forsaken" he reveals his plans to Aeron who is a prisoner and about to die. But in the whole series we get references to him showing his smiling eye while he keeps his crows eye hidden. He didnt win the ironborn over by telling them he killed Balon (fuck you show btw), he didnt win them over by promising them hes going to turn into a dark god. He won them over by promising them conquest. Theres actually some hints that Euron could be a skinchanger. The main reason I believe that he skinchanges regularly is that his whole crew is mute. Which would raise a lot of questions on how they manage to deal with basically anything on the ocean if hes not skinchanging his crew. The dusky woman specifically? Well, she is just as mute as Eurons crew, so... On a more serious note, I dont think we have enough to figure out whats her deal yet, but she does seem to be more than a regular spy for now. The most noteworthy thing she does is her agressive reaction to Moqorro, the red priest, coming on board. I am convinced we will find out why she has such an antipathy to him. The main evidence for the three eyed crow messaging Euron is Euron mentioning him dreaming about flying from a tall tower to Victarion. When he woke up he couldnt fly, or so the maester would have him believe. But what if he was lying? This is basically one to one mirroring Brans experience when he has the dream with the three eyed crow and Luwin telling him it was just a dream. Bran also sees the bones of previous dreamers in his vision, so we know that the three eyed crow tried to find a successor many times. Not to mention that it is canon that some ironborn can skinchange. So Euron could be one of the skinchangers. Last but not least, why would Euron, son of Quellon, brother to Balon, Victarion and Aeron even start to become interested in magic rituals? By the time he was born, magic was basically nonexistant in Westeros. Wouldnt it make much more sense for him to live his life as some kind of Ramsay Bolton, torturing his family, raping and pillaging villages on the coast, basically being just a more cruel "basic" ironborn? Euron might not be Daario, but im convinced that he is Urrathon Night-Walker btw.
@Aurelian_-vu3yz
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, there’s pretty ample evidence for Euron being a failed version of Bran.
@joshuabarnard5702
2 ай бұрын
I also don’t agree with Euron=Daario, but I was laughing at the video because Euron’s whole deal is his “smiling eye” and pretending to being suave and charismatic and manipulating people. The best instance of this is Falia Flowers, who Euron seduces and gets Falia to believe that Euron genuinely loves her and she’ll be his wife…for literally no reason. Other than to break her soul. Euron could have just raped Falia to get her pregnant with a baby with king’s blood to sacrifice. There was no reason to actually rizz her up. So it’s very much within Euron’s character to pretend to be Daario. Even though that’s probably not the case.
@Mic-Mak
Ай бұрын
2:53 That was exactly my fear too. So many show watchers who didn't read the books were spoiled before the reveal, not just by fans, but also by the media who wrote tons of articles about it for clickbait.
@LoreoftheWorlds
2 ай бұрын
Im pretty sure i lost braincells going over all of these theories again But Seven Hells did we make some good content out of it
@LoreoftheWorlds
2 ай бұрын
Also I'm very disappointed you didn't put something embarrassing up on my greenscreen
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
I'm so ashamed of myself
@champadin1755
2 ай бұрын
I'm not lying I caught that the gravedigger was Howland Reed on the first readthrough. Pretty proud of myself.
@Serryy
2 ай бұрын
About Bolt-On: Roose planned to kill his bastard and the woman for lying about him being Rooses child but he spared them when he noticed that the babe had his eyes. Ramsays eyes being the same as Rooses could potentially be important if he was an immortal skinwearer. Roose is also obsessed with keeping his blood pure with leeches. We get the idea that he doesnt really care about much that is going on around him. Lady Dustin mentions that she thinks he sees all of them just as little chess pieces. All of that would make a lot of sense if he had actually been around for a long time. Unlike Euron being a skinchanger, I dont actually believe this theory, but I do think theres something more going on with Roose.
@trisarathops
2 ай бұрын
I once read somewhere that there is also a theme: Werewolves vs. Vampires, with the Starks and their warging abilities and direwolfes representing the werewolves, and leech-lord Roose and the flaying Boltons the vampire side
@Serryy
2 ай бұрын
@@trisarathops Starks = werewolves makes so much sense, I'm disappointed in myself for not seeing that.
@nevenanovakovic9687
26 күн бұрын
You had me at "Tyrek Lannister is a horse" 😂😂😂
@michelmorio8026
Ай бұрын
I missed a lot of fun but WILD theories like: -Dornish Masterplan -R+L=Dany -Ned + Ashara = Jon / Brandon + Catelyn = Robb (which makes Robb the bastard and Jon the trueborn son) -Ned is still married to Ashara (-> Lemore) so all his children with Catelyn are actually bastards -Val is an Other (or at least sus after she returns from north of the Wall -> eye colour) 😋😂😂😂
@reginaldkenneth47
2 ай бұрын
"The fandom is in a sad place" no you don't get it Bookborn, whenever one of those batshit insane theories come out the fandom has such good fun, it's one of the best things about this fandom LMAO
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
lol I know I was just being glib! I love the theories tbh that's my favorite type of fandom fun!
@reginaldkenneth47
2 ай бұрын
@@Bookborn Haha I welcome you to our collective delusional party in hell with open arms!
@VinAbuqrq
2 ай бұрын
To me, just to ask the question "who are Jon's parents" is already a very revealing spoiler. There's no indication on the story that this is relevant. So I was really afraid that this part was going to be ruined for you, it's nice to get a satisfying conclusion from your ASOIAF reading arc. 😁 The think about Jon's parentage is that it is not presented as a mystery. So the reader go through the whole books without giving it a second thought. He being Ned's bastard is just a good excuse to have a "Stark" on the Wall, and he might even be the heir of Dawn. George implies a very comfortable backstory already, there's no reason for the reader to think about it. But when you DO think about it, it opens up that the question is indeed much more important that previously thought. The minor character detail becomes a major world-building set piece. It's really outstanding writing.
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
Agreed! Luckily I was firmly set on who Jon’s mom was - although someone implied the father thing and Kyle had to lie and be like “they are just show people” to throw me off and not think about it 🤣 it annoys me in retrospect that people were so free with it because it’s much more interesting to think of it for yourself. That’s why if im in a non spoiler talk, I always say Jon’s mom.
@VinAbuqrq
2 ай бұрын
@@blaubeer8039 Well, as I said, "The minor character detail becomes a major world-building set piece." If nothing else, Jon's parentage gives the reader a complete new view of the biggest historical event on the last twenty years, an event that still echos in the story we are reading it. Not only that, the revelation also gives a complete new view to one of the main characters of the series, Ned Stark. So as a world-building piece, Jon's parentage has a HUGE relevance. For example, as it was mentioned on the video itself, Ned's stance on the Daenerys murder plot has a whole new dimension under the light of Jon's parentage. That was what I talking about. I think it is pretty obvious and uncontroversial, to be honest. Now, I don't see your arguments relating to my original point, but I will give my thoughts on it if you want it. For the character, I agree that it is not something Jon would pursue, and that is why I said it is a minor character detail. I don't think the reveal will fundamentally alter Jon as a character. But it does have relevance to the people around him, and if the people do choose to follow him, Jon is someone who would accept the duty of governance. I mean, as you mentioned, he did it at the Wall. He has full respect for Mance Rayder, who did it North of the Wall. So if Jon's parentage is relevant to the rest of Westeros, that can affect Jon closely. And finally, this is something few people talk about... Jon Snow would never be Azor Ahai, but he would be Nissa Nissa. I think that is very likely that at the end of the story Jon will Jesus Christ himself, and according to implications on magic that are given to us readers, him having king's blood is extremely relevant also. I think this argument "ancestry does not matter" is actually a very unfair reading of the story, and I've only seen it seriously discussed by content creators that for a long time were critical of the idea of R+L=J. Now that no alternative proposal really stuck, they are changing to "it doesn't really matter" as oppose to admitting they were wrong.
@09hicktown
2 ай бұрын
@@blaubeer8039 Except it does matter because it changes so much of what the reader is told. Jon being a hidden prince and not a bastard also changes every relationship he had where his being a bastard was a major component. It also matters because Jon has always wanted to know who his mom was so to find out it wasnt who people speculated it was would also matter because it would shine new light on Ned from Jons perspective.
@09hicktown
2 ай бұрын
I definitely disagree that Jons parentage is presented as cut and dry. In the first book you can say that Jons mom was without a doubt Ashara Dayne. However as you go along things start to not add up, why the secrecy about Jons mom, why are there suddenly multiple candidates for who Jons mom was, and theres probably other things that Im forgetting. By the time I read through the series I knew there was something that wasnt being said about Jons parentage I just couldnt tell what. After I read the series then I heard about R+L=J. Having R+L=J in your head and rereading shines even more light on things especially with Ned, his seemingly off feelings towards Rhaegar, his remembering of someone elses pleas when Sansa is pleading for Ladys life, Ned finding Lyanna and smelling blood & roses.
@exactemphasis
Ай бұрын
Some other Lemongate related moments: Dany has a tyroshi accent despite supposedly growing up in Braavos and the path she describes as traveling through Essos with Viserys makes no sense on a map, Although the alternate explanation is that these a re examples of "first book-isms" . Also in the original version of dany's AGOT chapters she was actually from Tyrosh so maybe George missed an edit
@VinceLovesToast
2 ай бұрын
I think a lot of the best ASOIAF theories vere more towards being detailed essays about what George is settung up for future books. Theories on Jons ressurection, the grand northern conspiracy, etc are really cool to explore to recontextualise your rereads!
@StormbornDragon
2 ай бұрын
I love the ongoing arguments about pronunciation 😂 because George has said many times he does not care how you pronounce the words in his book. There’s an early interview of him, everyone calls the Dothraki the Doth-rack-e He used to call them the Doth-ra-kai
@readbykyle3082
2 ай бұрын
This is true but don't let her off the hook 😂 I will never let it go!
@ktk44man
2 ай бұрын
As a kyle whos obsessed with asoiaf, it feels weird to watch two other kyles obsessed with asoiaf talking about it lol
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
NEW THEORY ALERT! George wrote asoiaf to specifically appeal to kyles
@autje1970
2 ай бұрын
All Kyles are the same time-travelling Kyle.
@trisarathops
2 ай бұрын
@@autje1970 Omnikyle
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
@@autje1970 I've never wanted to pin a comment more, unfortunately sub comments cannot be pinned. But here's a gold star ⭐
@hann8103
2 ай бұрын
Not even George is consistent with pronunciations (he says Doth-rak-eye), and the show flipflops depending on the actor's dialect so I don't think you need to worry at all about how to pronounce things !! Also the whole Euron is Bloodraven's apprentice who might have gone rogue rests entirely on the line Euron says about how could you know if you can't fly if you never dared to leap from some tall tower, which is entirely the magical awakening that Bran has. If Euron didn't learn to fly in his dreams from Bloodraven and fell, maybe something broke in his mind and he became obsessed with learning magic and all his other apocalyptical god-ascension hobbies.
@Onelros
2 ай бұрын
Seeing Theon’s name again in the chapter title in ADWD made me so emotional. I never thought a chapter title can have this much impact on me. My favorite theory is that Jons first chapter is titled Ghost.
@e443productions9
2 ай бұрын
Also there’s a whole expansion to the lemon gate theory by these KZitemrs called “The Interesting Nerd Club” they honestly went into detail on that and the whole Aegon thing. It surprisingly makes a lot of sense
@CombativeRoboGuy
2 ай бұрын
I’m going to watch this later when I can but I just have to say- I literally just watched the chatting with nutts episode where you mentioned that you were going to do this.
@Thatguy-un4yq
2 ай бұрын
My favourite crazy theory is that the Reeds castle of Greywater watch does not exist and that's why enemies can never find it
@jaeger2780
27 күн бұрын
the tyland lannister horse joke in HOTD has gotta be a reference to tyrek
@theblondelush8633
2 ай бұрын
i’m shocked we didn’t discuss the theory that Ashara Dayne is alive and married to Howland Reed i’m not saying i’m sold on it, it just comes up a lot in the fandom
@theblondelush8633
2 ай бұрын
all that to say, you guys should make another video featuring the theories from the comments 😁
@DarthDude380
2 ай бұрын
So for the Secret Blackfyre theory, not only is Aegon a Blackfyre, but so is Varys. Varys was castrated for a magical ritual as a child, but why would a sorcerer want to use some beggar child's genitals for a magic spell? Because there is power in King's blood. We know this from Melisandre, and Varys even said that he heard a voice from the flames that his genitals were burned in so there is a connection there. The sorcerer seemed to practice the same magic as Melisandre so he would know the power of King's blood. Varys also keeps himself clean shaven and completely bald. Perhaps to hide his pale blonde hair that all Blackfyres have? Just like Egg does. And Barristan Selmy said that it was Varys whispering in the Mad King's ear that convinced him that everyone including his own son Rhaegar was plotting against him, which fueled his paranoia. Of course Varys would seek to sabotage the Targaryen reign if he really is a Blackfyre. Varys was chosen by the sorcerer because he has Kings blood. Blackfyre blood. It's why he played a role in the downfall of House Targaryen, encouraging the worst impulses of the Mad King. It's why he's so dedicated to putting Aegon on the throne. He could never take it for himself ever since becoming a Eunuch, so he made it his life's goal to place Illyrio and Serra's child on the Iron Throne. Serra is probably his sister, so Illyrio is his brother in law and Aegon is his nephew.
@trisarathops
2 ай бұрын
Sweet Robin is Littlefingers son is a fun one to think about during a re-read, and that the Viper poisoned Tywin, so if Tyrion hadn't done what he did to him, he would have died anyway... and then ObVioUsLy Daario is Benjen is Euron lol
@mrloadinggame
2 ай бұрын
This is the quality content I expect from someone who just read ASOIAF, I need to revive my own experiences in order to have the little fix to go on through my day.
@alibomaye4536
2 ай бұрын
Also shoutout radiowesteros as the keepers of the lore. No Hokey Pokey theories just textual evidence and thorough deep dives into characters, theories and different areas of ASOIAF. Recommend to anyone looking for more info that is completely grounded and reasonable. They’ll poke fun at a crazy theory but don’t spend any time on them.
@comicdog5097
2 ай бұрын
Azor Ahi is a The Bloodstone emperor, Nissa Nissa is a Children of the Forest and Moon Meteors will bring down the wall. David Lightbringer, best theorist in the fandom.
@ItsPallasAthena
Ай бұрын
I like the theory of Aegon being a Blackfyre, but I also just love the concept of an exiled prince reclaiming their birthright, so I do genuinely love thinking Aegon really is Rhaegar's son
@lingy69
2 ай бұрын
Omni-Walder (time travelling frey) was a joke theory created by Glidus for his "Fake ASOAIF Theories" video (which I definitely reccommend, also the origin of Tyrek is a horse). It's probably a parody of the popular Omni-Bran theory, which implies Bran used the Weirwood network to time travel and take the place of every Brandon Stark in history.
@Jonathan-ug9yu
2 ай бұрын
Faegon is THE theory I cling to hardest - and the biggest thing I think was missing from the show to make Dany's plot hang together - I think Aegon will take King's Landing and be king when Dany gets to Westeros - I think Dany will know he's a "fake" Targaryen but the public won't really know or care. - I think he'll actually be a decent king and the public will adore him (relatively speaking) - I think Dany being perceived as an usurper is going to be pivotal to her overreaches that lead to civilian casualties that lead to her going down the mad queen path (if the books do ultimately vaguely follow the show's plot)
@gokbay3057
2 ай бұрын
Yeah that makes sense, it also would make the shows ending plot for Dany make at least some sense rather than zero. (Seriously Cersei taking over, blowing up the Vatican and remaining a legitimate, hell the final threat? Nah.) Also, I would assume that FAegon and burning of King's Landing would be concluded before the "Second Long Night" rather than the reverse as in the show. But I guess it is possible that George will have it be a "Scouring of the Shire" kind of thing after the proper climax.
@marmitexDjakub
2 ай бұрын
My favorite theory that wasn’t mentioned but I firmly belive to be true is that Robb died twice. His last words were grey wind. That would also tie in pretty neatly into Jon’s resurrection cause his last word is ghost. And at least Robb would have one last fight sleighing a few freys before going down.
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
We did talk about this! it's somewhere in the middle. We all think it's true!
@pearljammies
2 ай бұрын
it was great to see you on preston’s channel! i’ve been hoping you’d chat with one of the theory channels i enjoy! i have a couple of channels i strongly recommend if you’re not already familiar (which you likely are!) Both of these i appreciate as they maintain a positive viewpoint, which really puts me off in certain areas of the fandom. 1. In Deep Geek - love his Everything is Bloodraven’s fault series & also the one of the faceless men. but truly all of his stuff is fantastic. David Lightbringer - fully up my alley as he focuses on symbolism & connections with Norse mythology, fairy tales, etc. Definitely check out anything on squishers/deep ones, and euron, and the comet/moon, and norse mythology.
@curtis25920
2 ай бұрын
The version of Ned warged into a pigeon that I heard was that it was the pigeon that Arya ended up eating right after Ned was beheaded. Equally as insane but I like this version better.
@jl3736
2 ай бұрын
In defence of the Quentyn theory (im neutral on whether its real or not): Specifically to bookborns point on the thematics, yes i understand her thematic argument. However, as i understand the theory, and admittedly its been a while, but Quentyn was essentially set up to fail. He does not understand this, but whoever sent him didnt expect him to succeed, in fact, its possible they sent him to die. Quentyns sister Arianne is sent to treat with Aegon at around the same time. Quentyn isnt even the heir to Dorne, since titles run thru the female line. Is it possible Doran is covering both bases, sure. its also noteworthy that Quentyn has a similar background as Theon, in that he lives with the Martells biggest rivals in the area, the yronwoods, and everyone in that quest was affiliated with the rival family, not the Martells, so its also possible that if doran supported Aegon, then the yronwoods might support Dany. So ultimately, the thematic might be that 'hero goes on quest' and this gets flipped by him dying. Or, it could also be 'lackey gets set up to fail/die' and this gets flipped by him actually succeeding, which would throw a massive wrench into everyones plans.
@nateh9917
2 ай бұрын
Ok to be clear I don’t think Quentyn is alive, but I think the best argument for it is that George has SO many fakeout deaths. Davos (more than once), the Hound, Arya, Jon (presumably), and a bunch of others. Oftentimes George leaves the door open so that if he decides in the future that he wants the character alive, he can. Still though I think Quentyn is pretty clear cut lol
@Bookborn
2 ай бұрын
Preston Jacobs actually talked about this one a little more with me and I think there IS evidence that it's possible Quentyn could be alive, but I hope not - only because I like his ending! That being said, I think george would probably pull it off.
@nateh9917
2 ай бұрын
@@Bookborn omg I just watched that part and then saw the little notification for this lmao I've been waiting for that specific conversation for like 6 months
@lordofloneleaf1242
24 күн бұрын
The Euron bloodraven connection does have one piece of real direct textual evidence. Euron tells Aeron about having a dream as a kid where a crow tells him he could learn to fly
@jennywilliams1455
Ай бұрын
I think the Jaime & Cersei Targaryen theory holds more water than Tyrion Targaryen. I see it more likely for Aerys to take the right of first night, rather than go for Joanna later. They fit the coin flip mentality, they're incestuous, it would make Joff and the kids Targaryens/Blackfyres/whatever as well. Also Cersei has a huge crush on Rheagar, who would be her half brother. This would also make Tyrion the only true heir of Tywin, and would make it so Jaime and Tyrion each killed their own true fathers.
@timholland1764
2 ай бұрын
My favorite theory that I think might be true that you did not cover is "Moon Meteors" from David Lightbringer. It is hinted at in the main series, there are clues in D&E and the World of Ice and Fire. Kind on bananas but it would actually be cool if true😊
@jakebishop7822
2 ай бұрын
I WAS NOT READY FOR HOWLAND REED IS ARTHUR DAYNE I HAVE NEVER HEARD THAT ONE
@2ndlegend125
8 күн бұрын
As a subscriber to a lot of Euron theories, most of their most convincing evidence is "This guy is just crazy enough to do this shit" like the warging the Dusky Woman thing is just something that just feels like hed do. But the Bloodraven student theory is actually weirdly strong.
@FlameQwert
Ай бұрын
MORE TINFOIL for warg-pigeon: joffrey died of actual choking because he choked on ned, who gained warg-sentience when one quarter of his soul in widow's wail (half in ice, half again) combined with the half that was in the pegion
@totemforsale5926
2 ай бұрын
As a long time ASOIAF reader, of these Euron/Bloodraven having a connection wouldn’t even be in a tinfoil category for me.
@shawnbonneau5731
2 ай бұрын
An "important" part of the Bolt-On theory is that Roose says he was going to kill Ramsay as a baby until he saw his grey eyes, which match Roose's own. So a common version of it includes that for some reason the face stealing doesnt change the eyes so Roose needed an heir with matching eyes.
@ncorva
2 ай бұрын
I was going to mention this but wanted to check if someone had addressed it before. Yes it's absolutely an important detail!
@estebang1779
Ай бұрын
To add to that, Domeric's death is attributed to Ramsay, but it doesn't fit his usual MO. So the theory goes he had different colored eyes, so Roose got rid of him like he got rid of all the babies buried under the Dreadfort.
@jjjjjjjjjj11ify
2 ай бұрын
We owe Kyle a debt of gratitude for getting Bookborn into this series.
@DoakFelix-qr8uw
2 ай бұрын
First, thank you for the video. I’m grateful that Kyle and Kyle shared their views. I’m glad you have people with whom you can discuss these books. The first time I discussed them with someone was in 2003 when they were only three books. I was on my third read, and the person asked me who I thought Jon’s parents were. And that is what opened the door for me. I was wondering if you were going to get to lemon gate. And you didn’t even get to Arbor Gold. And you’re worried that Catelyn doesn’t have the ability to warg into Sansa. The Starks didn’t have the greatest generation of wargs in recorded history by accident. Catelyn’s mother was a Whent who are descended from the Lothstons… notoriously renowned for their ability to turn into giant bats. And this was all negotiated by the maesters. Just like the Bene Gesserit of Dune, the maesters have a genetic goal in mind. This kind of opens doors into Jon’s parentage… as well as Tyrion, Cersei, Jaime, Dany, Brienne’s grandparents, Old Nan, Young Griff, Loras, Ramsay, little Lord Robert, Theon, Shae, Harry the Heir, and mayhaps even Renly. Anyway, if you like the idea of Eddard and Arthur settling things amicably, the n just like having Arthur become Qhorin you get Rhaegar into Mance and Oswell into Tormund and Gerald into the Magnar. Ashara becomes Mordane. Grrion becomes either the elder brother or the lord of the Stone Men. Personally I’m convinced that Tyrion’s savage who put out his own eye is the actual heir to the Vale of Arryn. Years ago when I believed that they were actual divine elements in the story, I tried to put together a theory regarding the faith of the seven, the number seven, and house Targaryen, to save Westeros from the others. I couldn’t get it to work, but for years, I was convinced that the mad king had seven children. Rhaegar, Viserys, Cersei, Jaime, Tyrion, Jon, and Dany. This is still working hypothesis for me, but I believe in Dany less and less. I know the show has confirmed who John’s parents are. But this makes Rhaegar’s actions nonsensical. Aerys as father explains more… including why Benjen and Jeor both went to the wall. Anyway, I do believe that the various prophecies and concepts of the three heads of the dragon, the stallion who mounts the world, the prince who was promised, Azor Ahai reborn, the last hero, the three eyed crow, winter is coming, and what is dead may never die all hearken to some apocalyptic event in the past and it’s eventual repetition. I’ve tried to synthesize these numerous times. I think that all theories either try to get to the real solution or just add to the fluff of the world. One last thing, I do like the theory that Eddard was married before. Without this, Eddard never betrays anyone, until he betrays Robert by protecting Jon. With a previous marriage, his story now more accurately reflects the stories of Robb and Jon. Robb promises a betrothal in order to gain an army in the Riverlands and his war against the throne… which is exactly what his father did. But the sun pronounced his engagement and actually got married. John went north, and married the nights watch and then pretended to betray them. Yet according to the wildling customshe actually married, Ygritteunknowingly. He actually broke his vows while only pretending to break his vows. Eddard once told Robert that he “shamed Catelyn in the sight of gods and men.” You don’t usually do that in the stables, in a tavern, in the woods, in your tent, while on campaign… No, he would’ve shamed her by not securing a divorce before marriage. The whole rebellion, and the cobble together alliance happened so quickly that Edward didn’t get a divorce. And yet Hoster Tullydemanded the marriage as the price for alliance. Now remember when Robb said his father would do whatever it took to get an alliance? Have it married quickly in secret it was set aside in secret. If this theory is true, then, Robb, Sansa, Arya, Brandon, and Rickon are all bastards. Maybe John is Eddard’s son from his first marriage. His only true born son
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