Thanks ever so much for doing this! Would love to try this unit! The demo at the beginning was fantastic and is really going to help so many people, extremely well explained!
@Producelikeapro
3 жыл бұрын
Haha Nuclear Control Panel!!
@Producelikeapro
3 жыл бұрын
Your advice about getting hardware over software is fantastic!
@michaelkroger2402
3 жыл бұрын
@@Producelikeapro for me the main point on this video is a huge recommendation for the maselec😅
@magiusicgician4102
3 жыл бұрын
Warren you're amazing. Wytse, you too!
@Producelikeapro
3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelkroger2402 the Maselec is amazing! I believe Wyste made a great argument for price point!
@Maximalsound
3 жыл бұрын
Maselec is the clear winner about clarity even thru the KZitem codec.
@DJURBANBG
3 жыл бұрын
superclear and big sound , absolutely amazing !!!
@theblowupdollsmusic
3 жыл бұрын
This is why I love this stuff so much. I disagree completely. I thought the IGS made the sound fuller, warmer, richer. I emotionally connected more with the music hearing the IGS. I felt the Maselec sounded too transparent and flat. Personally, I would rather not spend 4k for transparency.
@D.3TH13R
3 жыл бұрын
Wow! The difference between the Maselec was a lot more than I was expecting. Thanks for comparing those.
@lassorb4752
3 жыл бұрын
That MLA-4 sounded incredible tbh 😍
@RoXx1811
3 жыл бұрын
Wow when you swapped to the Maselec it gave me goosebumps even through the YT codec. But I can't tell if its just different settings or the unit (probably the unit lol!) The signal is slightly louder but it sounds like opening a curtain to me. It lifts the vocals and the drums making them sit perfectly in the mix and it adds a beautiful musicality. All these little sparkles in her voice sound absolutely fantastic - amazing! What a beast! Don't get me wrong the Multicore sounds great but that Maselec blew my mind
@shadownightmusic
3 жыл бұрын
for me, too!
@m00hk00h
3 жыл бұрын
It's not "just" louder, it's exactly what "a bit louder" does. Just turn it down a smigde when the audio is switching and the differences become a lot smaller. Or record the output in the DAW and normalize the parts (you can also see in the waveform that the Maselec is louder) and the difference become a lot more subtle. It's a very good example of a few dB not actually sounding louder but are perceived as 'better'.
@RoXx1811
3 жыл бұрын
@@m00hk00h I did that of course and it did not change what I hear in the sound. That's actually why I mentioned it in my comment just to prevent someone from saying "it's just louder". My first reaction was to check for loudness, because I know that phenomena. But yes - the effect does get more subtle when you compensate for volume but its definitely still there!
@michaellarsen180
3 жыл бұрын
That IGS sounds smoooooth!
@codycreepcore
3 жыл бұрын
the Masalec made me go "Whoaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa". In the first audio demos of the multicore, I thought it sounded more dull than the bypass possibly because it was too compressed.
@steviesfv7782
3 жыл бұрын
The IGS S-Type eats any software or hardware mix-bus compressor for lunch with its sonics maintained all the way to the home-TV. Set it and forget it! Their LA One against the best of (6) vintage LA2A's at a very well know studio proved equally.
@florisbackx1744
3 жыл бұрын
Always a pleasure watching some of your most in depth video, thoroughly enjoyed it! 😊😊 Oh and the Maseslec sounded insanely good!
@martijn_nl
3 жыл бұрын
What a nice unit! It glues everything nicely and adds dimension.
@fortheoneswhocare
3 жыл бұрын
I really loved the clean and punchy sound of the Maselec. The Multicore was really dirty which worked for me on the highs but was not something I'd want as much on the low end on the mastering stage (usually). Great review! Thanks
@GustafWestin
3 жыл бұрын
8:55 extremely pleasant character added
@boxabeatrecordings6309
3 жыл бұрын
Wow Wytse, the IGS adds a distinctive depth to the sound. It's great that you reviewed this piece of equipment! Although the Maselec sounded smoother, if I should have the money and wanted to add a silky shine and depth to my sound, I would prefer the IGS. Thank you for your efforts!
@r.audiomastering7151
3 жыл бұрын
Really like the examples, and when you put the Maselec in the chain, the song sounds more finished, the highs sounding more open and sweet to my ears, ok, Maselec costs 10x more, but i Love the results. IGS makes me start to think in invest in a multiband compressor Hardware.
@orderflowdojo
3 жыл бұрын
That Maselec goes HARD
@nessuer743
3 жыл бұрын
Some nice multiband compression in this one Wytse, thanks! I've never had the chance to hear the MLA-4, but man, that thing just sounded incredible to me. Even taking YT's compression into account, I mean there was no doubt, it just stood out so detailed and musical. Wow! A perfect example of how a multiband-compressor, when used tastefully and by someone who knows what they are doing, can totally unlock that "3D" depth and movement in a mix. And while I really enjoyed the grit of the multicore, I think perhaps hitting some analog "dirt", some nice tape, maybe a transformer, etc., before going into the Maselec could yield some even cooler sounds. Guess I'll keep on dreaming... :) Great video!
@psajgal
3 жыл бұрын
That B-Roll was super cool indeed. Did not expect such a cool little clip, really surprised me.
@andrewwunrow
3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are getting so high quality! All the excellent B-roll, visual transitions, and editing tricks (like the grey-scale masking for comparing the units) add a lot of detail to the videos! Add to that your knowledge and sense of humor, and man, it just doesn’t get any better!
@woodsiee
3 жыл бұрын
great production quality & great vid in general. feels like you prepare to do commercials :D love the comp! adds something to the table
@BlackenedNL
3 жыл бұрын
That Maselec, wow!
@lennartrauhe
3 жыл бұрын
Everyone hating on the IGS.. it's not a mastering compressor so of course the Maselec mastering unit sounds better on the whole mix! I think the IGS would be wonderfull on vocals! It's strong on dry individual elements, not so much on busses or 2bus imo..
@DJURBANBG
3 жыл бұрын
MLA is killing it , you should also check DRAWMER 1973
@andrewjmarks5343
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Love the visuals of switching the units on and off!
@kisho2679
3 жыл бұрын
well, the question is now mandatory: How does it compete with the "Tube Tech SMC 2B"?
@tubetech1001
3 жыл бұрын
@Heffalompen is it tight enough on the bottom end though? I originally wanted to go the MB TT way but am swayed the Maselec tbh...
@marcoravelli5397
3 жыл бұрын
Great comparison between the two. the IGS multicore is good! But the maselec, holy hell.... another game.
@GustafWestin
3 жыл бұрын
11:24 feels like the multi core gives more analog warmth
@reubenbotha3331
3 жыл бұрын
Multiband compression just clicked for me, thank you! Still cant use it properly, but at least i naw know how it works!
@jason_andropolis
3 жыл бұрын
Your video production is getting so good! Solid video
@mixphantom0101
3 жыл бұрын
I have the Drawmer 1973 multiband FET compressor and use it on everything! Especially great on vocals - control proximity effect and sibilance in one pass!
2 ай бұрын
My god.. to be honest, Maselec vs Multicore was night and day difference. I have no idea exactly why it’s so different but Maselec was a clear winner here.
@SingularityMedia
Жыл бұрын
IGS is a quite a bit darker, unless you didn`t match the top end well. I like it though.
@olivierclasse
3 жыл бұрын
You re getting better and better. 🙏 thanks 😊 for your videos and have a nice weekend. I m on getting an MLA3 second hand seems similar to mla4 except it won’t expand as far as I’ve understood it?
@liamhebden8857
3 жыл бұрын
What you said at the end... it is a common abuse that has gone on for a long time without it being considered abuse. It is Gaslighting and those people are narcissists at the core, but there is more to it, there's a community of these people everywhere. The narcissist is a noun, so not a diagnose, it is a list of bad intentions and way those types of people use certain tactics to get the result they want. You speak the truth, this is one of the most hated things by these people... so they wish to delegitimize you somehow and make people think you're crazy. I see someone simple being brutely honest and helping people make better decisions in the field you find yourself to be best at.
@user-eu3mn6ss5l
3 жыл бұрын
I think that for hobbyists, outboard gear is like owning a horse. You use your car for actual transportation, but you want a horse because you like horses. For pro studios, outboard makes sense because if it sounds 5-10% better than digital, those percentages add up.
@like-icecream
3 жыл бұрын
so 10 of these would add up to 100% bad ass sound lol
@ezrashanti
3 жыл бұрын
5-10%? It sounds 100% different.
@ArguZ72
3 жыл бұрын
@@ezrashanti No...5% is realistic in production levels....plugins have come a long way since the first underwhelming attempts ...also, stuff like the Elysia plugins is simulation new, fully functional hardware...Wytse has a great video featuring the Karakter ...
@user-eu3mn6ss5l
3 жыл бұрын
@@ezrashanti No, it doesn't. That's why the entire professional field of live sound has moved to plugins. The difference doesn't justify the price.
@virtuoskommunizieren
3 жыл бұрын
You could wonderfully compare it to the Tan of Acustica Audio, as it's the Sample of the hardware
@amplifier2
3 жыл бұрын
Introducing some phase issuses at the x-over frequencies - with the multicore that is.
@Stefan1969-1
Ай бұрын
Maselec is more clear, more direct. But the IGS hat more warmth, slight a little better low mids. It depends on, what you want and prefer. IGS did a great job!
@jamesjames77777
3 жыл бұрын
The Maselec was definitely clearer, but I found the IGS more captivating to listen to
@WaetzoldsWelt
3 жыл бұрын
The essential question to me is WHY should I use an Hardware-Multiband-Compressor since there are so good software MB-Compressors out there!
@amplifier2
3 жыл бұрын
Sound.
@Wizardofgosz
3 жыл бұрын
You can ask that about any hardware (almost).
@manthosdamigos
3 жыл бұрын
Love your new videography chops!!!
@Rareos
3 жыл бұрын
I was lulling over this compressor for a couple weeks now and was really bummed about the lack of audio online aside from IGS videos. You sir have come out of nowhere and saved me having to buy and probably return...although to be fair the Maselec sealed that, i wouldn't have made that comparison myself, so thanks. If you haven't returned it yet, would be interesting to see how it compares s a single band unit against your ssl clone. Presumably if you bypass the top band, the upper crossover is removed?
@JustinNathanielAdams
3 жыл бұрын
I like the Andrew Huang B-Roll :D
@bongos7821
3 жыл бұрын
that mid range control on the more expensive one sounds so good but almost sounds more digital like its a mcdsp multiband and the cheaper one sounds more "analog" to me
@werkoutput
3 жыл бұрын
It looks like comparing two different cars without using accelerator pedal on one of them. Are the settings equal? VU meters of IGS barely move! Especially LOW one
@audiokemestry
3 жыл бұрын
Great review. I've been interested in the Multicore for awhile now, since I have the IGS Tubecore (Vari Mu Comp). That's another great piece of gear that you should check out.
@MixYourWay
3 жыл бұрын
Oh hey! It's Acustica's TAN comp! :3
@cuba1956
3 жыл бұрын
Maselec was set noticeably louder than IGS. I think for a fair comparison, better level matching should be applied.
@ejmikk
3 жыл бұрын
Surprisingly big difference between the IGS and the Maselec, especially in the vocal tone (in Maselec's favour). Great video!
@theactualtruth4951
3 жыл бұрын
Um the timing of this video is perfect because I was just researching this compressor, and am deciding on whether or not I need multiband compression on my mixbus.
@5adb0i
3 жыл бұрын
I think I like the multi-core better lmfao I had the same issue with the SSL Bus video - I think I liked the Reason one best iirc
@germanher7528
3 жыл бұрын
nice vid like always
@audiosputnik9878
3 жыл бұрын
Great demo, awesome tracks
@thevicol
3 жыл бұрын
5:54 For shorter attack settings, audible transient distortions are unavoidable and completely natural. No matter how clean this circuit itself is. 2:37 It is not especially difficult to construct a crossover where the sum of the individual bands will give the input signal. But changes in phase response when a gain reduction is applied to a particular band are unavoidable. In the analogue domain of course. Here any changes in frequency response produce phase changes. But this is not very audible and is not a problem, because these changes are momentary.
@vonotebook
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this test. On the comparison, the Masselec seems more precise and respect more the music (the IGS is more confused). Masselec is a perfect tool.
@aungko7686
3 жыл бұрын
MLA-4 sounds really good!
@Rhythmattica
3 жыл бұрын
Ill keep reminding you.. You need to get Collin from ,mcDSP to organise a APB for you.... They've even released a Multiband comp recently... The Analog Goodness .... Sounds Amazing.... And now AU/VST on Mac support. Though .. There is of course an AD/DA in it.... But.. It really is an Out of the box , but in the box approach....
@shadownightmusic
3 жыл бұрын
True! Awesome to hear that nice thanks a lot :)
@MZ-tm1tw
3 жыл бұрын
The IGS multicore add,s so much colour and makes everything sound better even smoths out hard esses in the vocals. Still when compared the Maselec instantly sounds better cleaner more controlled. Combiening these two units in a chain and using the IGS multicore as colour compressor whit low mix level and letting the Maselec do the main multiband Compression would get some very cool sounds. Try the IGS Multicore on Drums , Bass and vocals maybe its better as Mix or Buss compressor that also can be used for Mastering.
@gigngamer
3 жыл бұрын
The maselec just compress the way it should, the other induce way more shit and dull
@alanegedy5649
3 жыл бұрын
Wytse, I always wondered what your sign is , could you tell us? Btw, great video!
@brianvillage5
3 жыл бұрын
i think that was first time i heard what the sidechain does. i never noticed the vocal bump
@MPDEAR6060
3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful, the grit it adds is sumptuous indeed! I’m a sound designer, primarily for games. I have a mainly ‘in the box’ studio, aside from a few synths and a quadraverb. I’m interested in experimenting with an analog signal chain. But, am finding hard to nail down where I should start, and what budget to set to get the best bang for my buck... without breaking the bank completely. Any suggestions for recommended reading or a place to start? Cheers!
@JacobWildrick
3 жыл бұрын
Find out what you want. Then set a plan to get it.
@Rhythmattica
3 жыл бұрын
For workflow being ease of use, but analog Fabulousness , check out Mcdsp's APB... You want grit.. Fk me.. its beautiful... (but wait, theres more). Though expensive, (If I was cashed up, it'd be in my rack for sure) But it's not expensive for what it actually does.......Ill leave that up to you to research... No I dont work for them, but also want to mention at this point its Mac only,,, and no, its not a Native/Dsp plugin, as many youngen's just cant grasp the concept.....
@Justanothermusicproducer
3 жыл бұрын
Everytime someone ask me for advice in regards of what analog gear to buy I always tell them the same answer. Go for the tool that helps you with those things that you struggle the most... Lets say you fail to glue the hole mix, then maybe a ssl buss compressor style could help you... Maybe it's controlling the lead vocal, then some la2a o la3a may be that thing that can help you. Look for the answer to your problem, don't create new problems... You can rent the gear you are looking to invest, don't buy cheap wannabe gear, you are investing into something that can survive yourself, and good gear will always be worth paying even second hand. If you are alright ITB... Don't go analog, it is another workflow and technically more demanding (signal paths, noise floor, recalls, converters, patching...) Anyway... I never enjoyed more in my life with music after going hybrid, but... Lots of headaches in between, hehehe. Best wishes and hope you make the right choice... Analog is not needed for great music... But can inspire!!!
@Rhythmattica
3 жыл бұрын
@@Justanothermusicproducer A veteran here of Music, Film Audio from Location to Post, Scores to Sfx.. ect.. Lots of Vintage Synths , Guitars, Bass ect.... Also Engineering and Tech support ....Just wanted to suggest too Check out The APB.. best to you from Down Under! ;)
@shadownightmusic
3 жыл бұрын
@@Justanothermusicproducer for me that helper was my guitar pedals and the behringer mixer xenyx1002 in the first place to go fully analog :)
@JimijaymesProductions
3 жыл бұрын
Nearly all the plugin multiband compressors I've used are super clean mastering style compressors, what I've always wonder, is if there are more character multiband, like ssl4000 style as an example but with phase accurate crossovers and possibility of modern detection and less distortion, loved the vocals on that track 8:00 track they sounded great and I liked what this compressor did to control everything a little bit and make it bigger and helped the female vocals blend a little I like it. The MLA-4 was way more transparent I reckon but it sounded more like what a digital multiband can do to my ears, control the dynamics of frequencies without adding or taking away anything.
@bertbrause
3 жыл бұрын
During the showcase I thought you bought it. If you had done that, I would seriously doubt in your excelent ears and taste (the things I heard so far from "Da Roots" ;-) since I am watching your channel). Good that I was wrong. By the way... The Masselec sounded phenomenal (even on KZitem).
@CreateArtRecords
3 жыл бұрын
To the Gear, If the Settings on theBass-Band moderate it Sound realy impressive on the whole Track. And the VU Meter are very informative and helps a lot to hear how the Compression acts. Coll
@assshakerstudios549
3 жыл бұрын
Oh my goodness! That Maselec sounds fucking amazing!!! WOW!!! You NEED ONE of those!!!!! Can you do a black shirt? I hate blue and white, gets dirty too easily! Black is king!
@astralboy
3 жыл бұрын
looks like the maselec makes the soundstage realistic, with the multicore unit the sound stage esp vocals appear diffused. so even if it is cheaper, one should save and get the maselec. plus the clarity is focused.
@CyrusBrinkworthRAS
3 жыл бұрын
will be hard to program the "head-room" analogue gears are steel competitive and sound fare ahead of virtualization.....
@audiogarden_studio
3 жыл бұрын
ouu.. the Maselec sounds so good!! thank you for comparsion
@saardean4481
3 жыл бұрын
Weird. The bass sounds a bit like its dissapearing on the Igs when compared to the maselec. Also the maselec sounds more airy, like a high shelf kinda. Didnt expect such a big difference tbh but i have to say the maselec plays one level higher.
@wilsonhaha
3 жыл бұрын
I actually preferred the Multicore. It hade some low mid punch that I really really liked that I think the Maselec lacked in this comparison. Pretty clear on the kick. The Maselec seemed a little louder though, but clearer and crisper high end, but almost too much IMO.
@fredscallietsoundman9701
10 ай бұрын
Would you say the MLA4 sounds cleaner, and the Multicore rounder?
@theactualtruth4951
3 жыл бұрын
I think the music you were using to test these multiband compressors didn't have a lot of bass frequencies to compress. The Maselec MLA-4 suited them better here. But I did notice the MLA-4 makes the bass frequencies sound kind of thin, maybe it's just me. The IGS Multicore makes the song a lot fatter and warmer. But it does create a lot of grit that won't be necessary on some tracks, I do like it's tone though. The IGS multicore sounds really good in this demo on IGS's channel if anyone wants to compare: kzitem.info/news/bejne/pYaj1oKQi6SnemU I prefer the Tube-Tech SMC 2B to Maselec's MLA-4 when it comes to multiband compression on the mixbus to be honest.
@annekedebruyn7797
3 жыл бұрын
As an old broadcastie, I love my multiband more than most of the people in the music industry probably. I went with an old optimod which are much cheaper but doesnt feature traditional thresholds since they are dynamically changed. Same with ratios and a few other settings. Works great on dance track tho.
@genejas
3 жыл бұрын
I dont get how they work
@annekedebruyn7797
3 жыл бұрын
@@genejas Stereotool has a free unlimited time trial VST and great documentation if you want to get into broadcasting processors. While it's not an identical clone, it does come very close to what I am using. It's similar technology what they are using in the newer Omnia models (Omnia being the main competitor to Optimod.)
@CreateArtRecords
3 жыл бұрын
your Vids going better and better! For me sometimes the Cuts are very fast:) And it would be Nice to see the Settings on a better Angle? But cool Vid
@TecDruid
3 жыл бұрын
Der Maselec Sounding much better. Opens the mix. The Multicore is warming up but its a question of warming or opening. Think that both units are for different tasks. I would say both in combination would sound damn good. One warming up and behind it the opener.
@TheStudeo74
3 жыл бұрын
The MASELEC !!! Amazing...
@brookbilney761
3 жыл бұрын
The comparison was cool too but was the output on the Maselec a bit hotter? The Maselec sounded more solid to me. I can afford nor justify either. Love your videos. Thanks.
@iampuesa
3 жыл бұрын
I think you missed an opportunity to show how these two multi-band compressors could sound in series, e.g. IGS into Maselec and other way around. Could be fun.
@TicscoCampbell
2 жыл бұрын
Is it any way to contact you and pay to ask question
@VevozoneTV
3 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@Hassan_Omer
2 жыл бұрын
Man what is that piece of music that starts at 7:12 !!!! is it a guitar ? who has played this piece, i would love to know, it sounds beautiful!!!!
@Ardeact
3 жыл бұрын
I don't know why but compressors for me have such a miniscule difference, it's probably how i'm using them
@TheGrelots
3 жыл бұрын
I mean, most compressors try to be transparent so most of the difference is in the dynamics and transient which is no really a flashy difference.
@maciejdolacki9283
3 жыл бұрын
wow, first time ive heard something sound so full and good on youtube. any tips on mastering for this and other steaming platforms?
@cheekamusic
3 жыл бұрын
Damn all those trees xD
@davidjames9226
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for a honest and great review. I noticed you have a Analogue Addicts Putlec Style EQ, I would love to hear your opinion on this unit? Kind regards
@thedoublek4816
3 жыл бұрын
This vs. Drawmer 1973?
@pablog.espinoza9675
3 жыл бұрын
Humm not even cheap my friend and the compare.. was little bit unfair... but thanks for show... the hardware option.
@thunder-studios6255
3 жыл бұрын
Would be interesting how the Drawmer 1973 would compare.
@grizcuz
3 жыл бұрын
Anyone know what that type of meter is called? I've always liked the look of them, but I don't know what they're known as.
@Rompler_Rocco
3 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous unit!! But it's so big, I'm afraid it won't fit on the screen when they emulate it 🤔
@Wizardofgosz
3 жыл бұрын
Slow the release down on that low end band if you want less distortion.
@beatchildproductions
3 жыл бұрын
Review the IGS One Opto Leveling Amp so that I can judge you.
@BluffMunkey
3 жыл бұрын
Yikes, that Masalec sounds like it's well worth the extra.
@desivibesmusic3457
3 жыл бұрын
please review shadow hills mastering compressor
@Rhuggins
5 ай бұрын
What ever happened to that "Volt EQ" by Wytse?
@Whiteseastudio
5 ай бұрын
It's still in my rack, connected to my Reverbs
@tantraxconcept
3 жыл бұрын
Hey, It Would be great if you enlighten us with your opinion on "Analog-Obsession" plugins, and I would like to comment about the "loudness wars" I think they still are going! ..since I have heard on spotify many artists that are really LOUD!, and others that sent their material at the supposed level it should be (-12dB) you can check that out by yourself, there are people sending their stuff at hi levels and not being compensated as you said in many of your videos, I´m your fan, keep it up man, I specially love when you say you are an idiot, even though we all know you are not!
@linodicristofano1383
3 жыл бұрын
how expansive is this?
@therealdjap
3 жыл бұрын
Want.
@searchiemusic
3 жыл бұрын
godammit now i have to live with the pain of knowing this exists and I don't have it
@peterbrandt7911
3 жыл бұрын
I think both of them sounded really nice, I like the harmonics as well, but is wouldn't fit into my workflow (as I do no mastering) and clearly not in my budget.
@saardean4481
3 жыл бұрын
At first glance it reminded me of the Oldtimer by Psp
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