*Thank you everyone who sent emails and messages informing about this incident. Find the radar screen improved with bigger data block text size. Subject aircraft is now shown on green color for better visualization. Informative pop-ups will also appear to give further context. More feedback welcome to bring better content! :)*
@StillTyping913
6 жыл бұрын
Your welcome. I was one of those people. Sent you a message about it on twitter
@kevinchung1492
6 жыл бұрын
VASAviation - Great job! At 4:41 I believe he said "they did declare emergency" not didn't.
@IANinALTONA
6 жыл бұрын
Nice work again!!
@BrokebackBob
6 жыл бұрын
VASAviation - Greatly improved radar display! Wow! Thought I would mention that the rightmost end of your logo Vasaviation shows in the top right of the display at a slight tilt. I was viewing on my tablet in landscape mode.
@VASAviation
6 жыл бұрын
I'd say it is a water mark but it isn't although acts like one. It's something about the radar scop that I could delete easily but actually left it on purpose as a watermark.
@lightwalker222
3 жыл бұрын
Phoenix: "Can you give us your fuel in pounds?" Speedbird: *furiously googling price of oil*
@Xxxxxx19-p1c
3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@kevinjohnson7693
3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣😂
@Hallands.
3 жыл бұрын
Cracked me up completely 😂👍🏼
@ABIAviation
3 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Zaluskowsky
2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@ikutoisahobo
6 жыл бұрын
I love how the Speedbird pilots were concerned about bits on the runway and advised a sweep for others safety even though they were in mayday. Excellent job.
@boatlover1875
6 жыл бұрын
Actually one of the most professional cockpit crews I've heard in such a situation. Asked for what they needed and appreciated the support from ATC. Probably the most missed approach awareness I've heard.
@frool76
6 жыл бұрын
I think that they (also) wanted that information to get more information about the indecent. If they would've found parts on the ground, the plane might have more damage from flying debris than just that malfunctioning engine.
@florianhofer2476
6 жыл бұрын
Exactly what the main reason was and is during such situations. Just remember the Qantas A380 near Singapore. Many engine debris parts went trough or into the wing above and also cut some cables for the outer engine which was still operating, but was not possible to shut down. Found debris can give you an indication if there could be other problems to come up a little later (e.g. fuel spillage, slat/flap problem etc.). Especially flaps/slats problem would require a different approach as they have to change the flap/slat setting for the final approach, especially during a landing near/at MLW. What we don't get just from this video is, if they changed their flap setting during climb out, or just left it as it was during take-off. If they did not change it and debris were found they would probably simply left it in that position and continued to dump way more fuel to get a lower landing speed with the take off flap setting for the landing. (Lower flap setting = higher speed)
@rubenvillanueva5107
6 жыл бұрын
bioxz exactly, confirming that the engine has not self destructed is a good sign.
@spock7945
6 жыл бұрын
*+ikutoisahobo* though it came rather late in the recording, i think that their concern was also to find out what kind of damage the ship had taken and issues that could crop up. considering their landing gear was still down and many critical electrical or hydraulic lines and systems are susceptible to damage from flying/ burning debris or shrapnel.
@delano62
5 жыл бұрын
ATC: That's cool British pilot: That's lovely
@jules8473
3 жыл бұрын
They are so polite.....Lovely...Thank you 😊
@maartendeen8404
3 жыл бұрын
You know you have Brit on the line when the word whilst is used.
@dizzy4017
3 жыл бұрын
No: That's Grand
@Tenzaromon
6 жыл бұрын
Going to SPRKY is a good bit of irony
@jackielinde7568
6 жыл бұрын
Is SPRKY A Mountain by ASU? (Sparky being the name of the Sun Devil Mascot.)
@dhammarosi
6 жыл бұрын
ILIKE that comment
@isaacmacdonald6530
6 жыл бұрын
Watch it. There are Arizona State Sun Devil Fans watching this. I am a sun devil fan too.
@jackielinde7568
6 жыл бұрын
Who isn't?
@unapro3
6 жыл бұрын
No, it's a coincidence. Please don't confuse irony with coincidence.
@11224488
6 жыл бұрын
Whoever is speaking for phoenix approach has an amazing voice.
@zedramer
6 жыл бұрын
Zen as fuck.
@spock7945
6 жыл бұрын
fully agree. for an American, his diction and almost accent neutral voice had pleasantly surprised, especially as it was not too easy to understand the BAW pilot. also, this recording has rather good clarity (assuming it was picked from a scanner). then again, American or English isn't my native tongue so others might find this routine!
@scwfan08
5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Brad Pitt
@adammcveigh
5 жыл бұрын
He’s the guy who does the ATIS
@bobgreene2892
5 жыл бұрын
Saw your post after making mine-- the guy is definitely in the right profession.
@AdzSONLINE
6 жыл бұрын
Speedbird is such a cool callsign
@gummel82
6 жыл бұрын
AdzSONLINE Well it‘s definately better than brickyard or so lol
@geezer652
6 жыл бұрын
The Speedbird is the stylised emblem of a bird in flight designed in 1932 by Theyre Lee-Elliott as the corporate logo for Imperial Airways. It became a design classic[1] and was used by the airline and its successors - British Overseas Airways Corporation and British Airways - for 52 years. The term "Speedbird" is still the call sign for British Airways.
@geezer652
6 жыл бұрын
......what would we do without Wikipedia?
@LacoteCohen
6 жыл бұрын
AdzSONLINE Shamrock is also a cool callsign.
@finlaycox8026
6 жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of 'Springbok' for South African Airways :)
@lightwalker222
3 жыл бұрын
"They didn't declare an emergency"... yeah when he said "mayday mayday mayday" he was just telling you about his birthday on the 3rd of May.
@Thuraash1
3 жыл бұрын
I heard "did declare an emergency" at 4:35; probably just a subtitling error. Do ATC use contractions like "didn't"? I would have expected they would enunciate the "not."
@hack1n8r
3 жыл бұрын
I heard 'didn't' too; Mayday was declared, but ATC didn't respond to that... I guessing that ATC simply didn't hear it. Regardless, well done peeps!! I love how the Brits are always (seemingly) courteous and pleasant, even in an emergency... 😄
@EmotionalWeather
3 жыл бұрын
Yea he said "did declare an emergency". Don‘t trust the subtitles on this channel too much, there is usually a few errors in almost every video.
@epsilona7472
3 жыл бұрын
I wondered about that too, but I played it back and atc says ‘did declare’.
@sdman120
3 жыл бұрын
Obviously “mayday is the Russian new year…”
@EwingTaiwan
6 жыл бұрын
I love that PHX approach who talks extremely calm and clear.
@user-ff9di2sb7m
6 жыл бұрын
EwingTaiwan Because PHX class B airspace has a lot of Mesquites.....
@EleanorVR
6 жыл бұрын
He's like the Bob Ross of ATC.
@spock7945
6 жыл бұрын
fully agree. for an American, his diction and almost accent neutral voice had pleasantly surprised, especially as it was not too easy to understand the BAW pilot. also, this recording has rather good clarity (assuming it was picked from a scanner). then again, American or English isn't my native tongue so others might find this routine!
@dhammarosi
6 жыл бұрын
E. Mark Anderson yes, and this was just a happy little accident
@perrooceaniko2005
6 жыл бұрын
OHH YEAHH !!!!! i was about to say that !! is the first time in ages I can understand all !! of course i am not a pilot neither english is my native language, but that guy is pretty clear and accurate speaking !
@bmused55
6 жыл бұрын
This is why I fly BA with confidence. Cool, calm and professional crews who are well trained and don't crack under pressure.
@VASAviation
6 жыл бұрын
Agree.
@Nitihene
4 жыл бұрын
Many pilots are also British Royal Air Force so those guys are trained to not to crack under pressure.
@NoriMori1992
4 жыл бұрын
If British Airways 5390 is any indication, then I think you're right.
@oxcart4172
3 жыл бұрын
Qantas have never killed ANYONE in 60 years though!
@LucaPed94
3 жыл бұрын
I think most pilots would react calmly especially in this case a 747 with 3 other functioning engines. They are all trained for this.
@wingloading
6 жыл бұрын
Great demonstration of Aviate->Navigate->Communicate. They firmly acknowledged the call with a "standby", secured the engine, came up with a plan, then came back to ATC with full intentions. They even suggested a FOD check to the controller -- It was almost a role reversal! I bet they brief before takeoff like they mean it.
@VASAviation
6 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, one of the best videos in my channel. Professionalism every corner on this situation.
@geordannik
3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic work from both the pilots and atc
@alan_davis
2 жыл бұрын
A case study in how things should be done.
@tomortale2333
Жыл бұрын
'[''IT WAS ALMOST A ROLE-REVERSAL!! WELL ISN;T THAT CUTE...THIS WHOLE THING STARTIN TO SOUND LIKE A SOAP-OPERA''''...FUKIN BUNCH OF GOOFEEE'S
@davidwebb4904
Жыл бұрын
Culture differences never more apparent than in this event.
@eagleeyez1280
6 жыл бұрын
British pilot called MAYDAY on his own plane but stays calm and even asks tower to sweep the run way of any debris for the planes taking off after him. That pilot/co pilot had some good experience and training.
@aljack1979
5 жыл бұрын
The only reason to fly BA is the pilot's... Some of the best in the world 😊
@SloppySalad
3 жыл бұрын
@@aljack1979 I can think of many reasons to fly with BA, their pilots and their training are just one (two) reason
@RicardoSalazar-wi3ti
6 жыл бұрын
My god!!, that british pilot was a complete gentleman although his aircraft was in a MAYDAY. Excellent video broh!
@joshwinky6005
6 жыл бұрын
There is something wrong with every pilot out there. They don't seem to know how to panic. Engine on fire? No big deal. Lost all power and are gliding? No worries. I think the most I've heard out of one of them was the guy who asked for a cup of coffee because he'd been flying in sub zero conditions with no heat for 20 minutes.
@RicardoSalazar-wi3ti
6 жыл бұрын
Midair emergency + Calm pilots = Calm flight attendants and calm Air Traffic Controllers = Calm passengers = Everybody safe on ground
@matt4239
6 жыл бұрын
Ricardo Salazar perfectly put, Ricardo.
@boringperson-zb8vy
6 жыл бұрын
That's how we do it here. Keep calm and carry on.
@joshwinky6005
6 жыл бұрын
Andrew De Jesus Chive On!
@steve1978ger
5 жыл бұрын
"... 54 tons of fuel." - "You said how many pounds of fuel?" - "Sorry, how many what, Sir?"
@HunterShows
5 жыл бұрын
Answer the question, Speedbird 38P!
@Rebotified
4 жыл бұрын
Soz I use metric
@Commissar0617
4 жыл бұрын
108k
@crazyoncoffee
4 жыл бұрын
Commissar0617 That is using the short ton, only used in the US. The BA pilots are most likely using metric tons used in Europe (equal to 1,000 kg), in which case it would be 119,000 lbs. Or they could be using the British imperial long ton, which is equal to 2240 lbs, 240 lbs more than the American ton. Though EU aviation always uses KG and Metric Tons so almost certainly that
@electrolinks
4 жыл бұрын
Pounds vs tons and kilos. So stupid. Use one, worldwide.
@ronazbel1926
6 жыл бұрын
Both ATC and pilot communicated very professionally!
@gregsd
6 жыл бұрын
Speedbird was such a pro. Cool as hell.
@user-ky6vw5up9m
5 жыл бұрын
That’s what they are paid for
@marvi7n
6 жыл бұрын
Props to everyone involved and also to that United pilot who decided not to take any risk and let them inspect the runway first.
@martintheiss743
6 жыл бұрын
The first priority of any pilot is to help with safe operations. UAL pilots do not care who put trash on the runways, they just don't want to injure customers or ground equipment in the process.
@stevenshillinger775
6 жыл бұрын
Best controller I've ever heard. Clear and calm instructions given to all aircraft. Kuddos to the Speedbird Pilots as well. They speak as they would like to be spoken to. Courteous and respectful.
@ciprian7243
6 жыл бұрын
Indeed clear instruction, minus the fact that I did hear the BA pilot call Mayday. Confused at this point, was there an emergency declared after all?
@boringperson-zb8vy
6 жыл бұрын
An emergency was declared, but later downgraded after it was deemed to be in control.
@RyTrapp0
4 жыл бұрын
I don't know if there's a more clear voice on this channel than this guy!
@davemould4638
2 жыл бұрын
However, be careful of the way we British deliver an insult using calm and polite language. Listen for what we *don't* say rather than what we *do* say. Most Americans don't ever realise they've been insulted (which makes it even more fun). I recall after an American display pilot landed following an aerobatic routine at an airshow, he was greeted by a Brit pilot who shook his hand and said, "Excellent landing sir." The American walked away thinking he had been complimented. In fact the real message of course was, "What a completely rubbish aerobatic routine."
@markog1999
6 жыл бұрын
You can hear the disdain when he has to clarify 52000 kilos not pounds
@CynicalOldDwarf
5 жыл бұрын
I'm sure once off mic he probably uttered something like "Bloody septics"
@russelllindsay2702
5 жыл бұрын
I know! But to be honest I was surprised too.
@johnbgrant
5 жыл бұрын
Captain said 54 Tons not Metric Tonnes or 54,000 Kilos.
@rixille
4 жыл бұрын
I would've thought that they would stick to a standardized unit of measurement for declaring things like remaining fuel. I've seen many videos where it's given in pounds, kilograms, tons, etc.
@marcvachesus9071
4 жыл бұрын
@@russelllindsay2702 well it an carry 100 tons of fuel or if you prefer 100,000 kilo of fuel lool
@jennydiazvigneault5548
6 жыл бұрын
Unlike many controllers, I really loved how the gentleman with ATC handled this. Very helpful and very professional. He didn't interfere with the pilots during an emergency and gave lots of useful and professional help.
@hb1338
4 жыл бұрын
Calm ATC operators help pilots stay calm, and vice versa.
@miquel440
6 жыл бұрын
What an example of teamwork here! Thumbs up for the cool and relaxed flightcontroller(s) from PHX. Very calm and clearly spoken .And of course thumbs up for the calm and professional reactions and actions from the BA 747 flight crew..It.s very good to know that we as passengers are in the hands of these professionals!!
@bobbypaluga4346
4 жыл бұрын
miquel440 Not that this matters much, but the ATC controller was either in LA or ABQ Albuquerque. Phoenix is in a funny situation you communicate with LA’s ATC when at PHX, once inflight slightly to the East you are now on the screens at the ABQ ATC. If you journey a bit to the north your working with SLC’s ATC controllers.
@musikekul
6 жыл бұрын
Navigating to SPRKY with a sparking engine... 🤔
@martintheiss743
6 жыл бұрын
Its just a code word to express you are flying to location S on what they call freeway lanes for motorcars. Anyone with an air map for the Phoenix immediate area would know where they are going.
@escolhadacarreira2084
6 жыл бұрын
Good thing that waypoint wasn't called XPLSN !
@isaacmacdonald6530
6 жыл бұрын
They are flying NEAR ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY!!!!!!
@MeEncantaKiley
6 жыл бұрын
Tiger Cam Ya thats probably why because of the mascot.
@ruatachhangte
5 жыл бұрын
@@martintheiss743 r/whooosh
@00BillyTorontoBill
6 жыл бұрын
So there I was camping in the desert and I decide to light a cigar and watch the stars... Phhooooom!
@MrSuzuki1187
2 жыл бұрын
These British Airways pilots were very professional and handled this emergency like pros. Well done from a retired United pilot who flew into Phoenix often. A perfectly managed emergency.
@Kritfayle
5 жыл бұрын
Dealing with their emergency and worried about being clear of residential and debris left on the runway. Pure class.
@user-ky6vw5up9m
5 жыл бұрын
Everybody airside worries about debris.
@chadcasale4216
4 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if it is standard BA policy/procedure but every mayday I hear from them they have a plan in place and tell ATC exactly what they are going to do. Super professional pilots all around at that carrier.
@peteconrad2077
3 жыл бұрын
Good training
@krakenmetzger
5 жыл бұрын
5:17 "thank you boss" yep this is the southwest alright. Gotta love it! Only 115 degrees yesterday!
@NN-uu9qo
6 жыл бұрын
It can’t get anymore professional than this.
@philkimber8086
5 жыл бұрын
I had the terrorising privilege to witnessing the very same scenario at Heathrow airport while I was working there some years ago. I was with my colleague driving West on Bravo parallel to the Southern runway at around 22:00 as a BA 747 has just rotated when engine 3 surged,Jesus the sound of the booms could be felt ,I remember thinking to myself please keep climbing .... Frightening !!! Thankfully after flying out over the coast they dumped fuel and safely returned to Heathrow about an hour later. I was licensed to drive on the taxiways and runways at LHR and as such we monitor GMC/ATC communications,flightdeck were cool and calm throughout !
@TheOReport1994
6 ай бұрын
I first read 'terrorising privilege' as 'terrorist privilege'. 🤣(I'm exhausted and fighting off a torturous cold with a fever that's making every joint in my body hurt like I've been hit by a truck and told to walk it off), It took me a moment to reread the comment. Thanks for the unintentional laugh, and I'm glad the flight you witnessed made it back safely!
@felixwagner1404
4 жыл бұрын
I love how the BAW pilots always handle emergencies with the maximum level of professionalism. It all starts with a good mayday call. Often you hear ATC ask if the pilot wants to declare an emergency. The pilot in this video uses the correct phraseology and then tells ATC exactly what they are going to do next. Love it!
@06comment
6 жыл бұрын
4:40 'They did declare an emergency' * - great video as always!!
@Gary-pe4ce
6 жыл бұрын
QuiteInteresting technically they did downgrade it later on so it wasnt much of an issue since both sides could communicate, but yeah I guess it slips one's mind
@HalfShelli
6 жыл бұрын
Maanup Bhullar Actually, it was VAS's transcription error, not the controller's. At 4:40, the controller said "did", not "didn't".
@nanomage
6 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure having the flight crew declare "Mayday - Mayday - Mayday" are usually interpreted as an emergency. Of course I could be wrong.
@corkstudentpilot
6 жыл бұрын
nanomage As I understand, in the US under FAA regulations you have to say ‘ I’m declaring an emergency ‘ in JAA Calling a Mayday is the same thing. I could be wrong but it would seem that controllers in the US want you to say the words declaring emergency. Look up the Aer Lingus EFATO out of Orlando they called a very clear mayday and the controller still had to ask if they were declaring an emergency.
@BlackOpSource
6 жыл бұрын
"Mayday mayday mayday" is still a valid declaration of emergency in the US, although Americans rarely use it, so normally controllers will instead verify that a pilot is indeed declaring an emergency.
@willykaranikolas2391
4 жыл бұрын
Interesting that inside that plane, theres probably a bunch of passengers that think the plane is about to explode and they're all about to die, after seeing the #3 engine burst into flames on takeoff. Meanwhile in the cockpit: "you might want to sweep the runway in case there's any bits on there, also let us know when we can start dumping so we aren't over a residential area"
@needleonthevinyl
6 жыл бұрын
That Chuck Ogier video is great! The guy knew what was happening before the sound even reached them. Instead of freaking about it out he just explained the concept of V1. That little clip made this video so much better.
@VASAviation
6 жыл бұрын
Chuck was great filming and also explaining the situation as it happened.
@M3rVsT4H
6 жыл бұрын
I will never tire of hearing the level of calm professionalism displayed by people in the airline industry. Particularly in the face of a potential crisis. In these times, it actually restores some of my faith in humanity.
@DanielAdamBell1977
4 жыл бұрын
Sip a cup of tea every time the pilot says "lovely".
@infinite2246
3 жыл бұрын
I’ll end up drinking a phone tea pot haha
@abyssalreclass
6 жыл бұрын
"A bit of a bang" That's a bit of an understatement if you ask me. Kudos to the flight crew and all involved.
@christinestill5002
5 жыл бұрын
That one PHX ATC proves you get out just as much info, speaking plainly and clearly & not having to repeat. I've monitored ORD and MSN and many small airports on scanner for years. After a year, you understand them all perfectly. I would have loved that job. I was the one paging and info operator for a large teaching hospital (years ago before they all carried mikes) & found emergencies focused me, and instructions just ran thru my head like the CPR steps.
@YouTube.TOM.A
6 жыл бұрын
I am pleased to see so many happy with observing the professionalism of British Airways [ speedbird ] pilots. There have been a concerted effort to portray them online as Impatient, Elitist, and Belligerent. This is just not so; cultures may differ, but maybe its time to recognize that there MAY be bad apples in every Airline
@martintheiss743
6 жыл бұрын
British Airways is cracking down on that behavior. They know that competition on their routes are increasing substantially.
@YouTube.TOM.A
6 жыл бұрын
Airline scrutiny of crew behavior is a given and a constant. Make no mistake about it, you can review tons of tapes to find heated exchanges on the frequency, Nothing new about airline competition.
@steeltrap3800
6 жыл бұрын
Problem I had with BA was everything NOT in the flight deck. In particular, their staff dealing with customers at the airport were just abysmal in dealing with me when BA caused an issue that delayed me 24hrs. They simply didn't give a shit. Have never flown with them since, and don't plan to. These pilots certainly were professional. Trouble is, customers don't deal with pilots (obviously, and nor should they). The rest of their operation was anything but professional.
@bobbypaluga4346
4 жыл бұрын
I would use the term professional and poised, they aren’t BSers thats for certain, some people may take that as being arrogant. If you happen to watch the Mayday episode where a BA pilot gets sucked out of a popped out windscreen in flight, you can certainly appreciate the poise and clear thinking. The pilot was half out of the aircraft with a member of the cockpit crew holding onto his legs to save his life, exciting stuff
@YouTube.TOM.A
4 жыл бұрын
@@bobbypaluga4346 I am very impressed at the actions of the flight attendant holding on to the captain, but I can assure you that that is possibly not what saved his life while that aircraft was airborne traveling close to MACH 1. The captain's body became folded at the legs and between the laminar flow of air around the body of the aircraft and air entering the cockpit window his body became wedged into position on the airframe. Its similar to a piece of debris [ ribbon ] getting caught on your external antenna while driving your car. This is not to reduce the heroic teamwork of the crew.
@utopiandreamer8540
5 жыл бұрын
Great controller. I could understand him. Unusual for US ATC where I normally struggle.
@AMStationEngineer
6 жыл бұрын
Very well done on the video; thoroughly, and efficiently handled by PHX, and the best of flight crews on the BA 747.
@madeira69
6 жыл бұрын
You can't beat a British pilot, very calm!👍
@dbdb9334
4 жыл бұрын
It's why they won the Battle of Britain! XD.
@stickImmobilier77
6 жыл бұрын
I love this pilot..very calm and respectful...even his plane in danger but he still concerned about the runway safety...love this guy
@roberthudson1959
4 жыл бұрын
Once the faulty engine was shut down, the dangerous part was pretty much over. The pilot eventually asked to downgrade the "mayday"
@mamavswild
6 жыл бұрын
Why do the British sound so....BRITISH?! ‘Err, just a bit of a Bang’... God I love those people. Everything sounds more awesome with that accent.
@stephensmith4480
5 жыл бұрын
We do Aim to please old chap.
@MegaVector2011
5 жыл бұрын
Uneducated, condescending prick.
@mattf763
5 жыл бұрын
Bollocks, we're not that bloody posh
@decline2state
5 жыл бұрын
Stiff upper lip.
@linepulse
5 жыл бұрын
We sound so British because they sound so American. 😊
@bobgreene2892
5 жыл бұрын
Controller PHX APP has a wonderfully clear voice-- impossible to miss even a syllable. Why can't all communicators be required to practice their speech patterns before employing them in potential life-and-death situations? At most, each transmission might take one second longer, simply to speak more clearly.
@CWINDOWSsystem32
5 жыл бұрын
Damn, Phoenix approach has got such a nice, calming voice. Pretty much the opposite of JFK approach...
@Ark-Angel44
3 жыл бұрын
JFK is handling more aircraft...
@donteo3098
2 жыл бұрын
Can't get anymore professional than these pilots.... great job
@_Andrew2002
6 жыл бұрын
An engine surge caught on video, amazing. Odd the engine surged while on the runway, surges usually seem to happen around half a minute after takeoff.
@gelatinous6915
11 ай бұрын
Extremely professional on all parts.
@vojtasTS29
6 жыл бұрын
I don't think I've ever seen a more polite conversation inbetween two strangers. Both the Phoneix approach atc and the pilot were so amazingly calm and polite even during an emergency after the flameout.
@billygowhoop
6 жыл бұрын
It's really comforting to know how professional and calm pilots and ATCs can be during a situation like this.
@Xanthopteryx
5 жыл бұрын
Lovely! The pilot calmly and clearly states his intentions and the ground just moves away anyone in the way. No fuss at all.
@VodkaFanClub
8 ай бұрын
This was a very smooth emergency situation. Professional, calm from both ATC and from pilots. I wish really nothing worse would ever happen, keep up the good work and reach home safe!
@-DC-
6 жыл бұрын
Professional approach by all involved really impressive.
@iatsd
6 жыл бұрын
ATC was hardly professional. They were casual AF. This video is a great example of the difference in attitudes and standards between the US and EU. The Americans are chatty and the Europeans are all business. Chatty means mistakes and misunderstandings and gets people killed.
@Cl4rendon
6 жыл бұрын
I`m impressed of the orchestration and professional management of all parties in this.
@lindastorey6685
4 жыл бұрын
Makes me feel proud to be British, those BA pilots are phenomenal
@smartycummins2500
4 жыл бұрын
These guys are pro! In aviation, you Aviate, Navigate, THEN communicate. They told tower to stand by while they were dealing with the problem (Aviate). ATC isn’t flying the plane, they are. Once it was under control, they had a plan of what they are going to do (Navigate). THEN they called tower declaring an emergency with saying exactly what their intentions were (Communicate). Well done!
@bryanbalfe
6 жыл бұрын
And that's how it's done. The professionalism, the training, the calmness in this whole event should be so reassuring to even the most nervous of fliers, this was truly top class
@smartfalcon8116
6 жыл бұрын
Speedbird pilots are very professional if not the best.
@elmin2323
6 жыл бұрын
Smart Falcon qantas better
@smartfalcon8116
6 жыл бұрын
elmin2323 l doubt it. All speedbird pilots high majority are ex RAF pilots.
@elmin2323
6 жыл бұрын
Smart Falcon ex raf? So only flown single pilot?
@smartfalcon8116
6 жыл бұрын
elmin2323 RAF PILOTS also fly a 2 seater, navigator and a pilot. Eurofighter Typhoons.
@RustedCroaker
6 жыл бұрын
Lufthansa, hands down.
@pseudocoder78
6 жыл бұрын
The way he said "localizer" at 10:50 made me burst out laughing
@Brooke52528
6 жыл бұрын
pseudocoder78 Me too😁
@movax20h
6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Laughing too. It is good voice tho!
@grandmastarflash
6 жыл бұрын
everyone talks about the british accent but no accent other than the american accent could make the word "localizer" sound so good! respect to all the american accents out there!!
@samisamsosa
6 жыл бұрын
Sounded like a cartoon version of Adam West
@marvinford543
4 жыл бұрын
"ILIKE* 👌
@jason6919
Жыл бұрын
Absolute professionalism on all sides.
@Brooke52528
6 жыл бұрын
The controllers are really friendly in Phoenix! What a text book interaction between pilot & ATC ✈✈ Sky Harbour is a great name for an Airport too, sounds much prettier than our Heathrow or Gatwick!!
@thoughtful_criticiser
5 жыл бұрын
When I was learning to fly in the mid 80s we had a visit from the AAIB. The had a recording of a BA VC10 flight from NY in which one by one the engines caught fire and were shut down. They landed safely on the last but what struck me was how calm BA pilots are in an emergency. Nothing flusters them, not even both engines on a 777 failing on finals at LHR!
@hb1338
4 жыл бұрын
They are far too busy concentrating on getting the aircraft down safely to have time for anything else, least of all being flustered. It's a combination of temperament and training.
@AndrewHeinrich1612
6 жыл бұрын
I love living very close to PHX! I actually saw him flying over head right after this happened
@martintheiss743
6 жыл бұрын
did you get a sense of any alarm, terror, or emergency as you were observing the flyover?
@AndrewHeinrich1612
6 жыл бұрын
martin theiss I was slightly alarmed, it wasn't something I haven't seen before, but it was still surprising
@smartycummins2500
3 жыл бұрын
No surprise how professional this crew was. British Airways has some damn good pilot
@TheBlooRayChannel
6 жыл бұрын
Thoroughly professional all round. Well done to all involved.
@MrJonniconni
6 жыл бұрын
Lovely, just lovely. Cannot be better than this.
@VASAviation
6 жыл бұрын
Always improving from my side.
@antonnym214
6 жыл бұрын
If you're going to lose an engine, doing it on a 4-engine plane is the way to go. Glad everyone is okay. I bet the airline hates when you dump all that expensive fuel. Good audio. All good wishes.
@atariandre5014
5 жыл бұрын
They'll still prefer paying the fuel over having a few hundred dead passengers, written of plane and above all of these, bad press.........
@GigsVT
6 жыл бұрын
I love that approach controller. so clear and not rushed and mumbled like half of ATC
@colinjones3834
6 жыл бұрын
What a thoroughly professional job by the pilots and the ATC!...that's how you do it, well done guys!
@user-yi9yw7tt4d
6 жыл бұрын
4:40 for the correction, they did declare an emergency. Thanks for such an detailed video :)
@VASAviation
6 жыл бұрын
My mistake.
@user-yi9yw7tt4d
6 жыл бұрын
VASAviation - It's fine sir :) keep up the good work 🤣
@MooneyOvation2
4 жыл бұрын
@@VASAviation There was confusion: the controller said at one stage he did not declare an emergency. Good reason to squark 7700 as a matter of course in such situations.
@adammullarkey4996
4 жыл бұрын
4:40 I thought declaring an emergency and calling a mayday were effectively the same thing?
@beckham3533
4 жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly. I would assume someone saying “MAYDAY MAYDAY MAYDAY” is a call for emergency
@Ripply
4 жыл бұрын
I'm almost certain the controller said they *did* declare an emergency. I think the subtitle is incorrect.
@ishmyboy
4 жыл бұрын
Yes the subtitle is incorrect, he said "they did declare an emergency"
@MrKabDrivr
4 жыл бұрын
Dang, it's useful to read the comments!
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
4 жыл бұрын
In the US, yes.
@RileyBrown2005
Жыл бұрын
The approach controllers voice is so smooth and nice.
@Tocsin-Bang
6 жыл бұрын
As someone who flies fairly often I'm just so glad that we have professionals like the ATC and pilots in this video.
@ThePerpetualStudent
6 жыл бұрын
Class. All class.
@step2191
6 жыл бұрын
Great video and audio, thanks VASAviation!!
@VASAviation
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!
@lockergr
6 жыл бұрын
Superb clear communications from ATC, especially the Phoenix APP.
@tomwait7900
4 жыл бұрын
Lovely to listen to . The ATC guy at Phoenix has a very clear and great voice.
@heffelfinger007
6 жыл бұрын
I saw this 747 parked when I flew into PHX on the 10th. Was wondering why it was sitting there.
@YouTube.TOM.A
6 жыл бұрын
With regards to a 747 flying on 3 engines. If you lose an engine your flight manual may require that you land after the event [ which does not make it optional ]. A failed or fragmented engine cannot be guaranteed [ airborne ] not having, projected shrapnel and pieces of metal fragments, affecting other systems including pressurization. Sometimes damage shows up after several hours of continued operation so it should always be treated as a serious event.
@hb1338
4 жыл бұрын
Aircraft engines are designed and built to standards which make uncontained failures exceptionally rare. A contained engine failure does not jeopardise the safe operation of the aircraft. The Boeing/Rolls Royce manual says that it is safe to fly on three engines so long as none of them show any abnormal signs; the BA operational procedures manual states that crew must immediately establish the operational safety of the aircraft; unless the aircraft is unsafe they may continue at their discretion, but not until they have recalculated their route, timings, fuel consumption etc to confirm that they are operationally viable. Obviously in this case the loud bang and the sparks made it prudent to return to Phoenix; in the 268 incident out of LAX the crew shut down the faulty engine and continued across the Atlantic.
@YouTube.TOM.A
4 жыл бұрын
I have seen A Demonstration of a contained engine failure and I have to agree somewhat. I am reminded of engine N1 failures that are impossible to contain as in the DC10; that demolished the engine cowl and much more. there is also engine failures that have occurred because the front engine cowl [ nacelle ] became unsecure and was chewed up by the engine FAN. Many of my manuals required that you land at a suitable airport in the event of an engine failure. In my opinion crossing the Atlantic on three when you had a failure close to your departure airport, is more of a maintenance convenience consideration and is close to the DUMBEST thing I ever heard of in aviation. www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2005-mar-01-me-britair1-story.html
@YouTube.TOM.A
4 жыл бұрын
I have to take a deep breath because this incident reminds me of my Misspent Youth when I used to play the ponies, I lost lots of money betting on horses with names like;...………. Gimpy Gelding,...……….. Rifling Rickshaw...……….. Flitzer the Blitzer...………….. Three WILLY,...…………… Tripod Tuxedo.
@hb1338
4 жыл бұрын
@@KZitem.TOM.A DC10 is very old technology, modern engine containment is orders of magnitude better. The decision to continue with three engines was not dumb at all. Even though it was influenced by commercial and maintenance factors, the chosen action was both demonstrably safe and operationally viable; it was fully thought through by the crew and approved by their route manager in London. BA has minimal engineering facilities in the US, so it was always going to be the case that the aircraft would be flown back across the Atlantic on 3 engines if that was at all possible - the only question was whether it did so with or without passengers. There being no obvious danger and with a revised route which had at all times a suitable diversion airport nearby, it made sense to get as far as possible over land and make a decision on the transatlantic sector only when near the east coast. I believe the crew chose a southerly rhumb to give them the options of landfall in Greenland and Iceland; in the event they made it to Manchester before they had to land to refuel. The cost savings were enormous - at the very least no need to find seats for 350 pax on other airlines (BA's own planes out of LAX were all full for the following week).
@YouTube.TOM.A
4 жыл бұрын
@ H B First of all you have to realize that flight on three engines is not the recognized standard that the Industry and Safety Experts endorse. I would hate to have to file a insurance [ Haul Loss ] claim based on your contribution if that aircraft had extinguished its fuel before reaching Manchester or other complications were later manifest. If you cannot appreciate that end of things then there is nothing that I can add by way of persuasion. The DC10 is older technology but N1 failures can still occur. Think about it more holistically we are not at a time technologically that we can feel comfortable about containment with every engine failure.
@MajoradeMayhem
2 жыл бұрын
It's a Mayday situation, but the British Airways pilots still have time to sip their tea and remind ATC to sweep the runway.
@vincemck2002
4 жыл бұрын
Amazing how calm and efficient these guys are
@Luuk3333
6 жыл бұрын
"..continuing to SPRKY" haha 😂
@wingsofred9327
6 жыл бұрын
haha...that made me laugh too.
@BelowMinimums
6 жыл бұрын
It's a lucky irony because the engine failure, but that fix is named after the mascot for the Arizona State Sun Devils, "Sparky" lol
@isaacmacdonald6530
6 жыл бұрын
Sun Devil Fans from Tempe, Arizona are watching this.
@isaacmacdonald6530
6 жыл бұрын
BelowMinimums Be Careful. I am a Sun Devil Fan and whoever said it named after the Mascot of Arizona State University is correct.
@marcusmacdonald5277
6 жыл бұрын
A good way to make an Arizona Wildcat laugh. Go Cats!!!! #BearDown
@rewynn1167
6 жыл бұрын
4:41 : They did declare an emergency *
@VASAviation
6 жыл бұрын
My mistake writing, sorry.
@rewynn1167
6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely: I could never do better than you! Honestly! Best animations for atc audios on youtube i've ever seen!
@ForAncientKingAndElvishLord
6 ай бұрын
They're all so polite and helpful
@gloriajohns8275
6 жыл бұрын
VAS, you are doing such a good job! This stuff has got to be hard as hell to pull together. Don't pay attention to the woulda, shoulda, coulda bunch.
@VASAviation
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your support! :)
@emilyx33x
6 жыл бұрын
9:23 Just goes to show the whole metric/imperial situation.
@emilyx33x
4 жыл бұрын
@Antonio Bromelini Highlights the argument for complete industry unit standardisation. For example, I was flying a 152 last month with both hpa and inches of mercury on the altimeter. I was given the qfe in hpa and set that on the wrong subscale. Could've been a bigger issue than it luckily was.
@sparkymalarky4322
6 жыл бұрын
There’s only one sparky round here 😏
@davecrupel2817
6 жыл бұрын
Sparky Malarky bunch o' Malarky! (See what i did there?)
@martintheiss743
6 жыл бұрын
no its the code word to signal that you are approaching checkpoint S on a freeway if you are driving in a car. that's all.
@stevenortiz7264
6 жыл бұрын
martin theiss It’s a joke my dude.
@smurface549
3 жыл бұрын
There was even a controller speaking clearly enough to be understood by normal mortals :-D
@bobmountford9216
6 жыл бұрын
Superb explanations and coordination! Nothing left to figure out..well done!!
@movax20h
6 жыл бұрын
PHX APP controllers has awesome tone and melody in his voice. (~ 11:05 )
@Soandnb
3 жыл бұрын
"We are continuing to SPRKY" Pretty sure your engine is already there.
@iainbradford4254
6 жыл бұрын
Nicely handled by all, ATC were extremely good.
@BigWheelHawaii
6 жыл бұрын
Boy You Guys Are GOOD,,, Great Job,,, Very Entertaining,,, So a Big "Mahalo" To All Concerned For Your Time and Effort...
@vicmartinez5745
5 жыл бұрын
"i'll let you know when uhh you can start your dumping"
@EG-0611
6 жыл бұрын
9:02 for the love of God this metric and imperial confusion will cause a catastrophe soon or later! USA leave your stupid measurement unit and JOIN US!
@PrograError
6 жыл бұрын
nah they shall never change to the Light side!
@R2robot
6 жыл бұрын
That had nothing to do with imperial vs metric. ATC was asking/expecting fuel remaining in time, pilot gave fuel remaining in weight.
@justinnanu4338
6 жыл бұрын
Gimli Glider
@R2robot
6 жыл бұрын
The irony of Gimli Glider is that it happened when Canada was in the process of converting to metric and was the cause of the incident.
@R2robot
6 жыл бұрын
A Mars probe. It expected values in metric and the software that determined the impulses gave US values.
@Michael-jv1mq
4 жыл бұрын
"Thank you boss" - ATC ... how lovely :D
@Zerbey
3 жыл бұрын
Wow the Phoenix approach controller can get a job in radio if he ever retires from ATC, such a smooth voice.
@cannedheat300
6 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Gotta love the British and their colloquialisms "sparky" and "willie". Also, they were very polite and courteous.
@troybaxter2916
6 жыл бұрын
Those were not colloquialisms. They are the names of the waypoints they flew to.
@cannedheat300
6 жыл бұрын
Yup! I was wrong as I eventually learned by listening to many more ATC comms and reading about the aviation industry. Understanding how navigation works is challenging but interesting. I would never be a pilot or ATC-- too much room for error.
@PetrolHeadBrasil
5 жыл бұрын
"That's lovely" - SO PROUD!!!! GO UK!!! LOL!!!
@spionsilver9626
5 жыл бұрын
fine example of pure avionic professionalism ... everything on the radio was calm and very clear .. you can clearly hear both crew and controller working out the situation to the best no NYC attidtude slurring or (hectic shortcalling supposed to panic and teach foreign pilots a lesson) understood NYC airspace is superbusy but that aint gonna help nobody in any case .. good thing the speedbird was save and everyone ok
@visionflightsim
6 жыл бұрын
Handled like complete and utter bosses. Perfect on all counts. Great job everyone.
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