Ok, Niikola Tesla would flunk Thor for that rats nest of wiring in the lower cabinet. Imagine a mouse in the rig gnawing those wires!!!! Holy Volts
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Holy volts !!
@afwilbanks4172
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Sir Scott... There are several BIG Deals wrong with this model. You hit on several poorly design flows, that Rat Nest of wiring is the cherry on the cake...along with cheep overhead cabinet doors, the placement of the tv, no way to enjoy it from the bench seat, and that discusting fold down bathroom sink! You were too kind in your review.🤠
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comments and for watching
@thepersnicketycalico9382
3 жыл бұрын
Hi Scott! I got excited when you first walked in, reminding me of the “G”, but went downhill from there - not a fan of shiny cabinets, propane, small fridge, bathroom or the twin beds … and thought the same thing when you found the “rats nest” of wires lol I did like the skylight and the pop-up feature. Thank you as always for the video! Safe travels 🙋♀️🚐🇺🇸
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that. Thanks for watching!!
@livingworkingoutsidebox
3 жыл бұрын
The front half looked great. The bathroom started dropping with that sink. Then the back gave me an ambulance feel. The wire Nest or as you perfectly called it rat's nest. WHT would they not organize it and use a few extra tie downs? Enjoy your tours.
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Right on with the wire harnessing
@germancarluv
3 жыл бұрын
Winnabego revel is th same. I saw owl vans do a Volta upgrade to his revel and the wiring was the same rats nest.
@toycarcollector
3 жыл бұрын
Ambulance feel I now see that. Yikes! Not what I want to be in at my age.
@jeanjoo1920
3 жыл бұрын
A strange mashup of the Travato G and K layouts but, again, with less quality.
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Thx for commenting J J
@steveedelen8377
3 жыл бұрын
Great van tour! Still wouldn't trade it for my Embassy RV that I have on order!
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
thanks, and I’ll leet Terry know ! :)
@timscott70
3 жыл бұрын
Nice but $128K. The RV industry and its greed right now. Sad.
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Tim for sharing
@stephenstringer3689
3 жыл бұрын
Didn't see how much lithium it had?
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and wasn't called out on their website neither.
@R2X2Z
3 жыл бұрын
Love ours! We have the Tellaro 20AT (similar to Sequence just different interior finish color) skybunk and lithium. We love the layout and can comfortably seat 4 and sleep 4. We are a family of 4 (2 teens that we plan to go with us on some trips) and the poptop is a huge plus. To us best priced Class B RV with skybunk and lithium. All others are about $20K-$30K more if you want lithium and best price per feature. The Sequence/Tellaro 20AT is like a Travato but at the price of a Solis PX. The wiring is not a big deal, can be fixed or organized if you want and not a deal breaker. Yes there are QC issues but other rigs out there have the same issues and are fixed resolved by service warranty. We also love the 11,000 W, 800Ah lithium system w/ built in alternator to charge the batteries (it can charge even when engine is idling). Can run AC for 10 hours, microwave, TV etc. This layout and RV works for us, price and availability were icing on the cake.
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
glad you are enjoying your van
@queencafe777
2 жыл бұрын
May I ask how much u paid for it? We want this kind since we have young grandkids. We appreciate so much to see if it is within our budget. Thank you
@michellenotherday1482
3 жыл бұрын
Love the review. Might have considered it. But for all the reasons you originally reviewed the Winnebago 59GL, we will stay with our 2020 GL! Thanks for another great review! I agree on the toilet, and love the larger fridge in the GL.
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Fair enough! thought to beat the 59GL!!
@TrishBenedict
3 жыл бұрын
LOVE the skylight in the poptop! Really nice touch. We’re just back from looking at Solises (Soli?) this afternoon in Fremont, CA. They had a nice selection and we went through the PX and the Pocket. Both have a lot to recommend them, but neither of them works any better than our Travato for a 6’2” guy. So I think I’m coming to grips with we’re just going to have to heavily mod the G to make it work. And I agree that that rats nest of wires is not a good luck. I guess you have to have them somewhere, but maybe they shouldn’t be so easily accessed. It’s kind of like making sausage - you don’t wanna know what goes into it.
@milesfong3901
3 жыл бұрын
We were at RecVans a couple of weeks ago and thought the Winnies PX were just a little bit better quality than the Thor that Scott toured.
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Thank Trish for your comments, as always !!
@jennifergregorash7753
3 жыл бұрын
I’m curious, and haven’t been able to find reviews about it.. but how well does that pop top stay cool when camping in hot areas?
@jasoncruz3506
3 жыл бұрын
That’s great question and how warn in winter or fall
@jennifergregorash7753
3 жыл бұрын
@@jasoncruz3506 well you always hear how spacious it is and all but if people are going to melt up there what’s the point!?! LoL
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
The pop tops that I have seen open have screened windows but not A/C nor heat vents. Fair weather camping with the grandkids and kids!
@brycegalbraith6375
3 жыл бұрын
The 20K floor plan is awesome for solo travels. Better bathroom, black tank instead of cassette toilet, lagoon(?) table is really versatile, big fridge/freezer w/ easy access while standing upright, a very large wardrobe in the back (can hang many clothing items), lots of drawers, and the floor plan feels really open with the fridge and bathroom in the back and the windows all the way down both sides. I tried to get one with the lithium package but just couldn't find one anywhere, but the inverter works well, and the generator is very quiet with very little vibration. The BMPro system is great and can even be accessed remotely via the smartphone app. So far, I'm loving the 20K model. Oh, and the Auto Generator Start (AGS) is so convenient.
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like that 20K floor plan is in your future !
@karollisa7022
Жыл бұрын
This is definitely my favorite floor plan from Thor. Anyone on here have a Thor? If so, thoughts on quality? All the people I know personally have had nothing but issues with theirs. It makes me really sad because I really love this rig.
@gosmall.livelarge
Жыл бұрын
Howdy
@ftkinsella
3 жыл бұрын
Not too bad at all but man fire the electrician. That is so ugly and I think unprofessional. Thanks Scott. Cheers!!!
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
electrical at least needs a little cover to hide the wires right?!
@liaodesign
3 жыл бұрын
I have tellaro 20AT it’s the identical of sequence with pop top decent rig we enjoyed craftsmanship can always improve and we always thought we should have go with solis however a friend rented a solis 59px and after take a tour of it man the quality is not there and the cabinets are so cheap compare to my tellaro or sequence in this case.
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with on the cabinetary between the two rigs. TechnoForm from Europe is superior! Thanks for sharing
@lindasaunders9893
3 жыл бұрын
Just watched Ginger Walkabout wideo....She's selling her van!!!
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Grab it quick!
@fordhier5571
2 жыл бұрын
Just ordered one of these units yesterday. VERY excited to receive it especially after seeing all of the videos and positives reviews. And I agree its the price of a Solis but looks and feels like a Travado. Also the pop up feature that will allow 2 others to travel/sleep. Can't wait to take our first trip! Thanks again for the review! Awesome job from an expert.
@gosmall.livelarge
2 жыл бұрын
Glad I could help. you have a cool first name !
@queencafe777
2 жыл бұрын
Please we want to know how much u paid for it. We have grandkids this is perfect depends on budget.
@peggytravels793
3 жыл бұрын
NO for the refrigerator and bathroom…do like the twin beds. It is NOT a home run by any means, maybe a double.
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Peggy
@mikeflanigan4896
3 жыл бұрын
I wish these class Bs would just omit the sink in the bathroom. Just use the kitchen sink. Less lines to freeze or leak.
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
interesting. I really enjoy my dedicated bathroom sink
@brianhayes6943
3 жыл бұрын
Poor quality based on your video. Shared that don’t work well. And Thor should be ashamed of that electronics wiring behind that door. Very messy and unprofessional looking. I would never pay 133000 for that mess.
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Good to know Brian. At least put a access panel to cover the wiring?
@brianhayes6943
3 жыл бұрын
@@gosmall.livelarge In my opinion those wires should be stored more neatly and zip tied together. To many companies with a out of sight out of mind attitude. The overall quality of some of these rv’s I’ve seen for the price they want is crazy Scott.
@toycarcollector
3 жыл бұрын
I am not a fan of any van that makes me feel like I'm in a van. It is the back doors I dont want to see. So we have a Travato 59k and can close the bathroom doors and feel like we are in a tiny home not a van. Even with the door open we have the fabric over the windows and our van is the granite color so mostly you see wood and fabric in the back. My least favorite floor plan are the models with the couch bed in back. Next the models with the bathroom box in center or front. The Gs are ok but Winnebago has ruined them now. Take a look at a photo of a new G interior and notice that you can see dozens of colors and materials and most just do not go together. The two worst G features now are the visible bed slats and the table area seating the box it sits on. I looked at a new Travato and was so thankful we have a 2019.
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
With you on many of your great points, especially the 59G Travato
@Bentsalami
3 жыл бұрын
Hymer floor plan. Since Thor bought Hymer
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Yes, maybe we will see additional Euro influence?!
@ronwiejaczka8635
3 жыл бұрын
The bathroom is too small and so is the fridge and the storage space looks like a rat nest under the bed.
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks R W
@sharonlandry8693
2 жыл бұрын
Does the pop top make it easier to break in? Is this a good one for parking in ski areas?
@gosmall.livelarge
2 жыл бұрын
I do not think a poptop is a security issue in general. Needs to be a 4-season van for winter trips, in general I think
@bandmarc141
3 жыл бұрын
Scott! Awesome vid as always! 😎😎😎😁😁😁😁 So informative and entertaining all at the same time 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 Pretty.cool and GL reminiscent 🤩 I'm waiting for someone to give a version or variation of it. This seems as close as it gets. I'd got for the non pop top and keep the sky light 😎
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it MJ 😊
@karollisa7022
Жыл бұрын
Man, if Winnebago would only make a pop-top in the 59GL… if only…
@gosmall.livelarge
Жыл бұрын
Hmmm
@karollisa7022
Жыл бұрын
@@gosmall.livelarge is that a good hmmm, or “this lady is crazy” hmm. Haha.
@karollisa7022
Жыл бұрын
@@gosmall.livelarge I’m sure I’ve told you recently, but have to say it again. I’ve learned so much from your channel. It has helped me tremendously to narrow down which rig to buy. You are very appreciated! :)
@dalewest9334
2 жыл бұрын
Big changes to the Sequence for 2022....have done away with the generator all together and now: Starting with motorhomes going online October 18, 2021, Thor Motor Coach will eliminate the Onan 2.8KW generator and AGM batteries for the Sequence and Tellaro product lines • In place of the Onan and AGM, an underhood generator (2 nd alternator) will be added to the engine along with lithium batteries
@gosmall.livelarge
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching and posting your comment! thanks for the info
@ricks.1318
3 жыл бұрын
I like the floor plan, DON'T like the "pop top" (Just a leak problem/mold, waiting to happen ...) Extremely over priced, like MOST RVs these days !!!!
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@robertcoren7318
3 жыл бұрын
It has many good elements but it looks kind of flimsy (shades, cabinets) and the limits of the fridge and space in bath are negatives as you expressed. Right now, prices are very high because of the shortage of vehicles. I also wonder about built quality at major manufacturers like Thor, Winnebago, etc. because of the pressure to build quickly. I’ve heard from other RV sites that customers are seeing lots of build errors in initial quality. Did you notice such issues at the Hershey show. BTW, are you thinking of doing an overview video about your impressions of B vans quality and availability moving forward? As always, love your videos and opinions.
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Appreciate your nice comments Robert. Have discussed quality and availability on my What’s Up Wednesday?! #vanlife RV KZitem Live show. Not attending the Hershey show. Quality seems to be hit or miss sometimes with some of the big producers. Smaller shops are not seeing similar issues, as a rule from what I’m hearing
@jackdreamvan1806
2 жыл бұрын
Agree with you about the closet Scott. I bought the 2022 sequence A floorplan with AGM & the closet baffles me. My shirts stick out! That said, absolutely love it & it's sky loft.
@gosmall.livelarge
2 жыл бұрын
right on
@michaelclark9134
3 жыл бұрын
Nice rig...but still like our Travato GL better...nice work Scott...still love your destination "places and people" videos the best...especially for those of us living the dream in the NOW!
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Right on! More places and people vids coming your way.
@taurusview9
3 жыл бұрын
Hello and thank you for video, do you have an opinion on Roadtrek Agile SS? I am leaning towards this particular model as my first RV, any feedback is welcome :)
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome. I don’t have much experience with Roadtrek, but gald to see them making a comeback. Maybe an Audience Friend has experience?
@robertparry3476
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I have a Travato KL and would love to have a dinette table and real seats. The overhead bunk is cool. Would never want a cassette toilet with only 5 gals. Our 12 gal black tank can last 3-4 days for two. The cassette would need emptying every 2 days maybe.
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
You make great points. Thanks for watching
@PeteMalis
3 жыл бұрын
This is the van I am searching for
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Good to know. It was available for sale as of a few weeks ago. Hit up Stacey at La Mesa for the latest!
@glassary
3 жыл бұрын
Heading in the right direction. Lose the “Russo” closet cabinet and make the bathroom bigger. Lose the fold down sink also. Also pop top is interesting but don’t need this, regain space that ladder takes up. Hmmmm what is under the ladder side bed? Partial to a large lagun table also. Otherwise looking promising.
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
It is a compelling floor plan for the right folks. Thanks for sharing
@jasonlucas2328
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! The RV looks cheaply built. If I bought it, my nightmare would start at the time when I owned it.
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Starry nights turn into scary nights?! LOL 😂
@Van_Liberty
3 жыл бұрын
I would ditch the pseudo wardrobe and lower storage beneath and fill it with a wider shower space. There's enough folded storage space to do this. Just run a clothing rod at the rear if you need to hang items and swing it all to either side of the coach to get out the rear exit. The exposed and unmanaged wiring is a fail. For that money, C'mon...
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Great points you make V L
@sherriweber7105
3 жыл бұрын
I like this Thor van but nit the small fridge or small bathroom. Other than that it’s nice. Thank you Scott for showing it.
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
YW
@cathysupp9493
3 жыл бұрын
???*** Was that TV mounted on an articulating arm? Since there’s a cassette toilet did that leave room for a spare tire?
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking yes on the tv mount arm thingy. Not sure on the spare tire. Great question Cathy!
@mobonds1
3 жыл бұрын
They should just permanently mount the ladder on one of the back doors. I don’t like it floating around the bedroom.
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Okay !
@my3suns568
3 жыл бұрын
I agree. Nice layout for a small easy driver RV. Dont like the shinny cabinets.
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Right on
@gordonmeeks2447
3 жыл бұрын
Like floor plan. Don't need or want popup. Can cassette be replaced by compost or marine toilet?
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Cannot swap the toilet through Thor that I’m aware of. Might be able to be modified after purch?
@ffavaff
3 жыл бұрын
I’m refugee from the IT world and would’ve fired anyone leaving that rat’s nest of wiring. Makes it very difficult to troubleshoot. I agree with you about the bathroom, closet, and refrigerator. The quality issues can be blamed on Covid - lack of parts and lack of workers.
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Hey AVA !!!
@ffavaff
3 жыл бұрын
@@gosmall.livelarge Hey Scott! Are you nearing SoCal yet?
@deborah4579
3 жыл бұрын
Closet to our much loved G layout. Good price and quality does seem improved here. Very interested in how the Master volt performs. This is one to keep an eye on.
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
I found it compelling . Glad you did to. Thanks for sharing
@jasoncruz3506
3 жыл бұрын
Wish the would make the two backseats I little bit wider and bigger fridge
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting Jason
@paulnubreu6887
3 жыл бұрын
Pretty shocking you did not show the extra sleeping area.
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
yeah, downside of touring rigs on a Dealer lot, I don’t have access to opening everything up and turning everything on unless it is that way already. Thanks for sharing your thoughts
@cathysupp9493
3 жыл бұрын
If they put the Travato bath and big fridge on the driver side it would be a perfect fit for the missing second sleeper of the new 2022 G Thor has upped their game on the class B options
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Agree with you. Thanks for sharing
@liorajacob8094
3 жыл бұрын
They can't fit those in and still have the beds go front to back...
@DaGoonR
3 жыл бұрын
I think the one with the bathroom in the back has a bigger bathroom correct?
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
I would tend to agree. Thanks for watching and commenting
@jansprout
3 жыл бұрын
Please tour k floor plan, either tellaro or sequence. Better floor plan and fridge. Have one on order, want to see new fridge!!
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Will see if I can find one on a dealer lot. Not many sitting around as you know! Thanks for sharing Jan. Excited for your upcoming journey
@jansprout
3 жыл бұрын
@@gosmall.livelarge Thanks Scott, I like the 20K floor plan better for a single person, larger bath with larger black tank, larger fridge, lagun type table, and daytime couch. No problem making bed as will use as twin and keep made with nice day cover. Thanks for the good wishes.
@Pinky121971
3 жыл бұрын
Great Review Scott, Thanks for the review, Had a bit of learning to do with this rig but overall Thor is easy to reach 24/7 Custom support.
@afwilbanks4172
3 жыл бұрын
The buyer will need it!!!
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing
@saludsalinda2702
3 жыл бұрын
Scott, thank you for your videos 🌺❤️🌺🎉🎉🎉
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
And thank you for watching them and commenting
@saludsalinda2702
3 жыл бұрын
Aloha from Carlsbad California🌺❤️🌺
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Arriving into CA later this week!
@larssmith2170
3 жыл бұрын
Scott, what class B has the most usable bathroom in your expert opinion?
@GOJ739
3 жыл бұрын
Or as Matt's RV Review would say ' Prime Pooping Position '
@liorajacob8094
3 жыл бұрын
I think Scott would say his own Travato GL but only pre-2022 models, in the new ones they raised the floor to fix the drain issues but in consequence anyone over 5'10" cannot stand up straight. Scott am I correct here?
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Biased, but the Travato 59G IMO has the best bathroom. The vans made by Coacmen, the Nova, Galleria, and Beyond are rather compelling to.
@gigharbourite
2 жыл бұрын
❤️ the Glossy cabinets.
@gosmall.livelarge
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them. Thank you for watching and commenting
@lizlemon9632
3 жыл бұрын
Realist review.
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
More of an open house “tour” than a review, but appreciate your input a lot
@wandaizard359
3 жыл бұрын
Love it
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@NoOne-rq5ih
3 жыл бұрын
I no longer value your opinion after your positive review of this horrible piece of crap.
@gosmall.livelarge
3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to learn that. NOT A REVIEW, but more like a traditional Open House where one walks through to check things out. Hope you stick around John
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