Privatised rail is and absolute scam. An hour trip from the midlands to London on the train costs over 120 quid now. Rip off
@91Durktheturk
Ай бұрын
This is nonsense, many people pay far less on that route by taking advantage of far cheaper advance tickets.
@MrJonnyl123
Ай бұрын
@@91Durktheturk i just checked for tickets for a week in advance from where I live on peak time to London and it’s 133 quid. So your wrong
@oddities-whatnot
Ай бұрын
Everything is overpriced in this country. Absolutely everything.
@91Durktheturk
Ай бұрын
@@MrJonnyl123 So the advance tickets are more expensive than the headline fare you quoted earlier. Highly unusual.... Let me quote some fares. I can find a single from Loughborough to London for 51 pounds on the 0632 next week Thursday, instead of the headline fare, which is 195 pounds. A significant saving.
@gordon1201
Ай бұрын
@@91Durktheturkthis is absolutely bullshit and you're just ignorant. Advance tickets have literally never made any difference for me travelling between any city such as Bristol, Southampton, Oxford, London, Reading.. it's NEVER made a difference no matter where I went. And getting a single Vs a return is, and has ALWAYS been literally £1 difference. For the past 10 years least. So I don't know what the fuck youre talking about
@navajojohn9448
Ай бұрын
The taxpayers never stopped subsidizing the rail system with 11 billion pounds last year alone.
@robertsmith9810
Ай бұрын
and never will
@91Durktheturk
Ай бұрын
They are however subsidising the railways to a much lesser extent than in mainland Europe....
@robertsmith9810
Ай бұрын
@@91Durktheturk we keep being told how superior mainland railways are , but what % of uk population travel by rail so lots are paying for a few to use i can`t get to work by public transport more people are being encouraged to work from home
@91Durktheturk
Ай бұрын
@@robertsmith9810 This is exactly why the subsidies for railways are much lower in the UK than in Europe...
@robertsmith9810
Ай бұрын
@@91Durktheturk YOU HAVE ONLY RESPONDED TO HAF WHAT I ASKED i don`t get subsidized transport to go to work if you want to use the railways you should pay full cost
@anni730
Ай бұрын
More importantly what about Water being Nationalised. Sewage in our rivers and serious neglect.
@dionlindsay2
Ай бұрын
I doubt if putting utilities in public hands is how to look after them. Govt were never good managers. But where is safe and efficient for managing national infrastructure?
@gordon1201
Ай бұрын
@@dionlindsay2they don't need to manage it themselves. We don't need politicians in charge. But if they build the right teams it can be done.
@DancingLedge
Ай бұрын
How idiotically blinded must one be to not see how privatisation has screwed up the train companies We still subsidised them and they sucked up the profits, and then claimed to be broke to run away from their commitments Same thing with water utilities
@lindakirk698
Ай бұрын
Will be run by the unions for the unions!
@colinstickland3130
Ай бұрын
Reopen the branch lines
@rrstows3522
Ай бұрын
Ian Collins, only going on about sandwiches, thinks its a big joke. The railways should have never been privatised,the same for water and all our services
@keithjackman8886
Ай бұрын
What! British Rail again? Nice! Can we bring back the good old door slammer coaches? Certainly the sevice was a darn sight more reliable.
@vincekerrigan8300
Ай бұрын
Most criticism of BR was unwarranted, and largely emanated from people who never used it. I commuted on BR for years, starting not long after the war. It wasn't perfect - what is? - but it was generally pretty good. Certainly much better than what came later. Privatisation was a disaster, and is stil largely subsidised by the taxpayer. It should be renationalised.
@chrisrowe7503
Ай бұрын
The railways are a service, not a business. It’s long overdue that British Rail returned. I work for a TOC and all I hear is business case this, business case that. Well now, they won’t be able to use that excuse. It was never meant to be a business.
@voodoochile333
Ай бұрын
This fella is ray of sunshine
@garyh1572
Ай бұрын
You just can't handle truth-bombs.
@navajojohn9448
Ай бұрын
Tax payers never win in a public or private operation. The private op want profits raising costs for users and public operations entail huge waste and laziness raising costs to users.
@jsd8981
Ай бұрын
That will put the the investors into a panic...
@emeargllawgind5209
Ай бұрын
Silly wee man, obviously hasn't listened to what was actually said. Which was ( when their contracts are UP or THEY DONT DELIVER on their contracts they will lose the contract) is what I heard. Just as they did in Scotland.
@The_Geometrikam
Ай бұрын
I remember British Rail all too well pal. Filthy trains, filthy stations, rude staff and crap buffet food. GBR means passengers will come last.
@tobyjackman3212
Ай бұрын
At least you could afford a ticket
@navajojohn9448
Ай бұрын
British Rail was still running steam locos in the 1960s.
@cleolector710
Ай бұрын
Yes back to the people including NHS hopefully Nothing needs private
@scoppio07
Ай бұрын
My memory of British Rail was how polite the staff were. They made Basil Fawlty look meek and mild.
@cheech7900
Ай бұрын
As soon as British Rail began to make a profit, the Tories privatised it, the Tories would have your grannies gold crowns pulled and sold down at cash convertors, if they thought they could make a few quid.
@ZeroStyIe
Ай бұрын
I hold quite a significant role within one of the Toc's, and I can tell you very confidently that the government is what's holding our railway back currently. From the infrastructure, extortionate fines causing ticket price spikes, poor treatment of the crew, and general ignorance about basic safety requirements, the government is already mishandling the railway. I wish I could share more specific things, but it's more than jobs worth. But I wish to god they would just stop with their current meddling and forget about the railways and leave them to competent people.
@91Durktheturk
Ай бұрын
As another railwaymen, with a revenue role, I fully concur. This will be a feast for the unions and drive up costs. The worst thing will be devolution, with lines potentially handed to the Mayors, which will increase costs on the existing operator and the operator whose services will be nicked, as rolling stock diagrams and staff can't be shared anymore
@lydiaguimaraes7009
Ай бұрын
I hope something change ! It is a nightmare the British Rail! Expensive , slow , unreliable , obsolete The worst unnEurope🙈
@satch7123
Ай бұрын
Learn from the Beeching mysery. People want to use it. The SW NEEDS it. GWR ad campaign has a wonderful 50s feel to it. Soend the money on this beautiful but broken country. Stop giving it to everyone else.
@frida12349
Ай бұрын
Stop putting the word "Great" before "Britain". It's an immigration centre now...☹️☹️
@navajojohn9448
Ай бұрын
What govt agency cares about customer service?
@rayofhope1114
Ай бұрын
Good news to sort out the railways - water companies next. Get a life Talk TV.
@kaybee5150
Ай бұрын
I remember getting curled up cheese and tomato sandwiches in the early '70s. So what is this guy on about???
@navajojohn9448
Ай бұрын
Will the national railroad be run as well as National Health Care is now? Same govt that managed covid disaster? If so you better buy a car to get around.
@MrF1SH
Ай бұрын
No, a different government, that's the whole point
@russellbonell
Ай бұрын
You do know it's a different government, right?
@SaltyGammon567
Ай бұрын
"Public ownership" means "we're going to put your tax up to pay for a service that you definitely will never own, then, we're going to charge you for using it."
@voodoochile333
Ай бұрын
It's been such a successful privatisation.
@domfjbrown75
Ай бұрын
You might not. Some of us have no choice...
@eekbeatsofficial
Ай бұрын
when its cheaper to take a flight across the UK than a Train by a few hundred, you should know privatising has done nothing good.
@oddities-whatnot
Ай бұрын
I wonder how many people will be complaining about HS2 tickets when it’s completed. None, because most who will use it will probably be on the gravy train, all on expenses. Ordinary commuters wont be able to afford it.
@gglen6574
Ай бұрын
I thought they'd sacked that off?
@user-lo5kj8im5d
Ай бұрын
Good the privatisation of it has been awful way too expensive. And taxes won’t go up because of it cause we’re already paying like everything’s been a nationalised.
@nicholasbeane4779
Ай бұрын
The guest asks the host not to talk about curling sandwiches and then proceeds to do so for 2 minutes. Not very logical.
@alhazed
Ай бұрын
If the private sector were doing so good, then we wouldn't be having these conversations. Something definitely needs to be done when its cheaper to go to Spain then it is to travel across the UK
@npcknuckles5887
Ай бұрын
The private sector can't perform well, when it is so heavily burdened by tons of taxes and regulations, and when it has to put up with the still nationalised Network Rail, and still has incredibly burdensome restrictions on development of new rail (because of planning permission). Don't throw tons of burdens on a private company and then expect it to perform. How would you perform at running, if someone chucked a 200kg anvil in your backpack. How would you then feel if someone started criticising you for being bad at running as a result?
@alhazed
Ай бұрын
@@npcknuckles5887 That's called the no true Scotsman fallacy, if only we capitulated more, then surely it would work..no. They seem to be pretty unburned when it comes to rewarding their CEOs and shareholders. They could invest a bit more of that money into attempting to change government policies and arguing their issues within the media, no, it's a cash grab. But it's rather irrelevant, it cost a friend of mine £200 to get a train home from London. That's insane, there's no excuse for that, and if they cannot work within our rather liberal, free market rules, then they would never survive in the world at large, they are incompetent, and nationalised railways around the world put our attempts to let the free markets decide, to shame..at least in this instance.
@alhazed
Ай бұрын
@@npcknuckles5887 I replied to this but it doesn't seem to show it. 🤷 But I'll try again, the CEOs earn millions, they are not incumbered at all, they could invest that money in lobbying government but they don't. They have to obviously abide by based laws of a country, like any other railway, yet they fail. It costs my friend £200 to go from London to Kent, that's insane, don't tell me that because of regulations, utter nonsense. Much like the underground, you cannot have private monopolies and expect things to go well.
@npcknuckles5887
Ай бұрын
@@alhazed It costs your friend £200 to go from London to Kent, and yet rather than blame the government for causing those hikes in railway fares, by taxing and regulating rail companies to death, you instead blame the private companies that couldn't survive if they didn't raise prices in response to the costs imposed by those taxes and regulations. If you had an ounce of honesty, you'd blame the government. Instead, you LIE to yourself and to me, by blaming the private companies that had NO choice about the taxes and regulations imposed upon them. What do you want the private companies to do? Go bankrupt by not raising their prices when the government taxes and regulates them to death? I can't deal with someone so dumb. I just can't. It's painful.
@geraldineedgecumbe9771
Ай бұрын
Hitler Nationalised Railway Too
@npcknuckles5887
Ай бұрын
The railways were never fully privatised in the first place. Sure, they gained private owners who took private profits/losses, but the government kept a tight regulatory leash on them and taxed the crap out of them, thus reducing the quality of the service and raising the cost for consumers. Every regulation costs money and creates inefficiency. Every tax costs money and creates misallocations of scarce resources. Socialists act like the railways were some kind of free market - Even though the truth is that they were a deeply deeply unfree market, because the government never fully freed them from its grasp. Genuine privatisation means creating a genuine free market (no taxes, no regulations, no nationalisations of any kind). Look at Network Rail - It's still a nationalised part of the rail system. So don't act like this was ever a free market when y'all know damn well it was not.
@alhazed
Ай бұрын
I think you've agued well that its not possible to have a totally free private sector in railways, they will always have to abide by high regulatory standards, as they should on this small island that tries to preserve its wildlife, countryside and keep the running of trains at a high standard. Its certainly an excellent argument for them being renationalised, because at least we won't have millions in profits going to CEOs and shareholders.
@npcknuckles5887
Ай бұрын
@@alhazed There is no right to ban development on one's own private property, for the purpose of "preserving wildlife". If you want to do that, then go buy up some land and do it. Get together with loads of other people, buy huge tracts of land, and do it. But DON'T use government rights-violating force to outright ban development on people's OWN private property, just because you personally want it to remain green. The bottom line is: It's NOT your land, so you have NO say and should have no say. Government regulations don't keep trains running at a "high standard"; they just increase costs for the business (in time, labour and money) - which are then passed onto the consumer in the form of MUCH higher prices. EVERY single tax and regulation costs customers money. These things are NOT costless for the consumer. The costs are ALWAYS passed onto the consumer. Hence why we have such astronomical rail fares. The rail fares reflect the taxes and regulations imposed upon railways. Get rid of all those taxes and regulations, and I guarantee you that you will see rail fares drop through the floor to become incredibly cheap. If you want all that government, then expect to pay for it with MUCH higher prices for goods/services. Businesses never pay the costs of taxes and regulations; they ALWAYS pass it onto their customers. WE are paying for every tax and regulation. Yet you blame the private company for hiking their prices, rather than the government for imposing the taxes and regulations that CAUSED those price hikes. THINK, McFLY, THINK!!! Lastly, as for your final comment quote "at least we won't have millions in profits going to CEOs and shareholders" - Why shouldn't investors and talented employees be rewarded? The investors are taking a gamble with their money in ANY company they invest in. If the investment pays off, they SHOULD earn a profit. Yes, yes, yes, I know, you hate people earning profits. Well, that's stupid and destructive of you. I'm sure you'd be happy living under the absolute tyranny of Soviet Communism, right? Zero freedom, yeah, sounds wonderful, not. Actually engage your brain and realise how wrong you are about basically everything. And please, don't vote. You don't have the brain for it.
@warnz9701
Ай бұрын
The trick will be to have real engineers and management in charge of it and NOT politicians who couldn't run a P-up in a Brewery.
@iffler2542
Ай бұрын
British Rail was a national joke!
@rockerjim8045
Ай бұрын
a Tory National Joke
@MrJonnyl123
Ай бұрын
Was it more expensive to get a fare for an hour trip than to fly to europe with British rail tho?
@iffler2542
Ай бұрын
@@rockerjim8045 Grow up.
@iffler2542
Ай бұрын
@@MrJonnyl123 Unlikely, people weren't travelling by plane to europe on budget airlines back then...... idiot.
@bobsocks7575
Ай бұрын
@@rockerjim8045I bet you blame the Tories when you stub your toe
@andrewbennett7756
Ай бұрын
About time stop the fat cats getting gready a great idea thats why you cant move preserved locomotive from place to place
@truckerfromreno
Ай бұрын
Can't afford a train ticket. Makes no difference to me.
@gordon1201
Ай бұрын
That's the point though isn't it?.. to make it affordable for you..
@davidfoster2006
Ай бұрын
Will need a lot of investment as the franchise companies will run it down, as they will have no incentives to invest.
@npcknuckles5887
Ай бұрын
Because of government.
@peterd788
Ай бұрын
British Rail did have multiple catering arms and Stagecoach hasn't been a train operator in the UK for years.
@dazwalkingman
Ай бұрын
So will we get late night trains a full Sunday service and a service that’s cheaper than flying to Spain on can we travel across our own country in less than 24hrs
@philipclemoes9458
Ай бұрын
Where will they get the money to nationalise it?
@giakolou2876
Ай бұрын
When their contracts run out they simply won’t extend them. Train companies lease them from U.K. government
@rockerjim8045
Ай бұрын
If Privatisation was the solution why has Northern Ireland Railways never been Privatised
@barriewilliams4526
Ай бұрын
Paddy never thought of it😅
@steveelliott9746
Ай бұрын
From what I've read British Rail was not very good. During it's time passenger numbers declined. I don't know why. After privatisation passenger numbers rose rapidly. So what is it about the new nationalisation plan which will give us a better system than we had with British Rail? Won't it be the same people running Network Rail and the same drivers and staff operating the trains?
@billdennis3681
Ай бұрын
Yep needs to be British Rail again.
@navajojohn9448
Ай бұрын
The BR sandwich was sold from 1948 to 1994 and in the last full year of sales 8 million were sold. The National Railway Museum in York found a 1971 sandwich recipe document issued by Director of Rail Catering Bill Currie. The sandwiches were disgusting and unpredictable quality but ok with people used to war rations I guess.
@discombobulatedbiscuit232
Ай бұрын
somehow i don't think it will make it better
@leerobinson9969
Ай бұрын
Giving the uk energy independence.
@foxie420
Ай бұрын
I used to travel between essex and birmingham when i was in the army. It was £100 back then and i got out in 2011. Now it cones up about £200 so I stopped using trains many years ago. Trains are for the wealthy these days. You can fly to destinations in europe for £30 for comparison
@timbrown1897
Ай бұрын
the east coast main line is nationalised really cheap no same as the electric it is not coming down but will going up
@johnsabini2330
Ай бұрын
British Rail stepped up when they had to compete against UK internal air flights, used BR a lot for Intercity trips. But sure Labour will mess up tacking over rail, RMT will F it up 🤷🏻♂️
@AlBundy-uv1nx
Ай бұрын
Just an ex railway worker and foreign worker
@alanpearce1753
Ай бұрын
What private company is going to invest in its company, knowing they are going to loose it Majority don't know what a woman is , let alone run a railway.
@tobyjackman3212
Ай бұрын
Eh?
@bob-sb2zu
Ай бұрын
The railways should never have been privatised in the first place, even Thatcher didn't do that, problem is its 30 years ago and all the experience went with it
@domfjbrown75
Ай бұрын
Privatised. Surely???
@Thamesfisher
Ай бұрын
British rail cold tea and curly sandwiches it's true the buffet carriage was a joke
@AlBundy-uv1nx
Ай бұрын
There the milking cow 🐮 will belong to public contributors again So no ripping off chances for the public to be scared of
@pentapushelden
Ай бұрын
The first step in correcting the damage done by Thatcher.
@bobsocks7575
Ай бұрын
Nothing to do with Thatcher
@frasermitchell9183
Ай бұрын
Has Wolmar been on the pop ? Curling sandwiches were never mentioned until he did, and it's totally irrelevant to the interview. Please just get on with it ! I worked for BR and its successor organisations for 40 years from 1971.
@annemoncrieff3875
Ай бұрын
This is not gb related cos, once again, SCOTLAND'S TRAINS/RAIL ARE NATIONALISED ALREADY. Really sick fed up telling u little english this and reminding u that most things spoken about at Westminster have nothing to do with devolved gvmts. House building - Scotland never stopped building houses. Talking to doctors re strike - Scottish doctors were paid straightaway so never went on strike. I cld go on but there shld be a legal method whereby ALL msm must state relevance of any news issue to any of the 4 countries in uk and nit just say hb cos gb means jack shtie nowadays.
@stephenwoods4316
Ай бұрын
Politicians generally make terrible business persons
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