I want more spr/recce, everyone wants to run sbrs and I think spr/recce rifles are apocalyptic proof rifles
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Clean hits and reliability is the king of battle in the end.
@diedfrombored5295
2 жыл бұрын
SBR because a lot of people live in the city, close quarters is the main focus.
@outboardprsnlstndup
2 жыл бұрын
@@diedfrombored5295 i suppose, but a 16” is likely plenty small for that.
@crumply5959
2 жыл бұрын
If u wanna talk about apocalyptic proof rifle, get a flintlock. Where are u gonna find primers for your rifle?
@davidb9323
2 жыл бұрын
@@crumply5959 in the basement with me.
@wisemencompany
2 жыл бұрын
I’m just here for the violence.
@ShootDaily
2 жыл бұрын
You would be... should be called wise girls company! 😜
@rickypickles2219
2 жыл бұрын
16 inch bcm enhanced lightweight with a 1-8 and 45 degree red dot. good weight, great range and accuracy.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
Boy that is a hard setup to beat! BCM is a tac driving tank of a brand!
@ingold84
Жыл бұрын
Run this setup but leupold mark 6 and it’s noice 👍
@toxicgamer1033
2 жыл бұрын
I love this I idea of podcast/b role this is great keep it up man. Will there be one on chest rigs/plate carriers?
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
Hmm maybe, we have done one on IGTV but we can def throw a conversation up on hatchet cast
@seanwhite304
2 жыл бұрын
Love the top hat 509T . I got away from the 45 degree offset . I have 12.5 Mini Recce with Centurion HF Barrel , TR24 1-4× , 1.60 PEPR Mount , Top Hat 509T , X300U (12 o'clock) , C4 10" Quad Rail and YHM T2 Turbo K with Kurz Kit. This is my go too 556n 300 yards and in. I'm running Black Hills 77g TMK.. For my SPR I went with 12.5" Match Grade Nitride 6ARC With PLX 1-8× GRIFFIN MIL ACSS , 1.60 PEPR Mount , Top Hat 509T , Rein Micro , MI 11.5" Combat MLOK Rail , and YHM R2 Resonator K with Kurz Kit . I decided to go with 6ARC because it's an incredible cartridge . With 12.5" I'm getting 1600+ FPS and 600 Ft pounds of energy at 600 yards . Even at 800 yards its 1375 FPS with 450+ Ft pounds of energy. Realistically I built it for 600 yards and in . I'm using Black 105g BTHP , 106g TAP or 108g ELDM. I wanted 1 upper that has shorty barrel but still capable of 600+ yards . That's when I found the 6ARC . It's not a traditional SPR but it can achieve about the same results when compared to real MK12 out to 600 yards . Yet its 6" shorter and pounds lighter I also have 18" 6ARC that's gonna be more of CSASS setup paired with 3-15× EBR7C MRAD.. If I were to build do all be all Rig . It would be 13.7 or 14.5 6ARC . It can handle medium sized Game out to 300 yards , bang steel out to 900 yards and be used for CQB ( Yeah a bit much for CQB but it will work ).. Centurion MK12 MOD 1 SPR is my absolute favorite MK1W variant. I'm also a sucker for NSW 15.1" Recce Rifles. I used to be a cloner when I was younger . I've had 0 issues with any YHM Cans . Granted I dont have 10k rounds through them but I have 1k easily through each Can . What are the issues with YHM cans . I get it they are little gassy but I just BRT Tuned Gas Tubes to tame it down . I can talk guns for hours . I'm gonna love this channel . Me and my buddies do stupid shit like text each other top 5 gun and knife lists or if you could only own 3 . I love US Military small arms history .
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
that sounds like a killer setup, We also text and comment back and forth for hours lol
@alc8479
2 жыл бұрын
When talking about realistic battle capabilities the tavor checks off a whole lotta boxes gotta give it credit
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
The tabor, is def a proven system, Bull pups however require a lot of dedication to train torwards that motion of ergonomics, but those who accept the favor as a soul mate are def, LETHAL
@artist_with_a_gun
2 жыл бұрын
If your not cheating in a gun fight are you really trying to win?
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
Amen
@Hercules1-v9m
2 жыл бұрын
I put together my idea of a RECCE rifle for the terrain I live in. I live around forests and wide open fields so mine is a 14.5 with a 1x4 LPVO, that's it. Slim, light, can do close in woods work and enough magnification to engage across a field. It's more of a defensive weapon than offensive as I am looking to gather intel, not take on 20 guys in a firefight.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
true true, and also sometimes a good Reece rifle is the lightest weight one, we will be doing a dedicated Recce Rifle episode for episode 4
@davidb9323
2 жыл бұрын
@@barrelandhatchet What sparked all the RECCE videos around KZitem this week?
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
@@davidb9323 hahahaha we literally asked the same exact question, so since it's a hot topic episode 4 will be about recce or what we like to call general purpose rifles
@davidb9323
2 жыл бұрын
@@barrelandhatchet I look forward to learning new things and there are a lot of RECCE rifle builds, they fill the page when I Google RECCE. I am hoping for more on avoiding detection throughout the journey and am excited for GT thermal heli video example. Also interested what you can do with the information gathered, being limited by capabilities as a small force.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
@@davidb9323 we will be doing a Reece Series, where we will also have other folks from different professions to hit on specific things that deal with Reece, not just the rifles, however we will have a whole episode dedicated to different types of Reece rifle, trains of thought
@billthebard805
2 жыл бұрын
I freaking love it, “…wanna get into ballistics?” Sounds like me in any conversation.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha yesss
@lincolnpascual
2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting to me that you find the red dot on top the LPVO more natural than the 45° cant... I'm exactly the opposite. I find the 45° cant much more natural, idk why. To each their own I guess... if it works for you, it ain't stupid, right?
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
Dude that statement is so so so true, if it doesn't work for you then stick with what makes you the most effective especially when it comes to proven solutions, and it boils down to personal preference.
@Icybones000
2 жыл бұрын
Here is the other advantage of having a 45 degree cant is your cheek never has to leave the stock and transition is alittle faster getting back on target with the scope.
@MyLonewolf25
2 жыл бұрын
One positive to the top hat is you can use it to key into a general area you want to shoot and just drop your head to get onto the glass.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
@@MyLonewolf25 that is so true, something Roy does with long range shooting as well!
@HotelBravo556
2 жыл бұрын
I recently built a “Recce” for the first time, and I love the concept. It’s as close as we can get to a “do-all” rifle. -Colt upper and lower -Criterion barrel w/ headspaced bolt -Badger Ord gas block -Modlite PLH-v2 w/ Modbutton -SLR IonLite rail -MBUS Pros -Badger Ord 1.70 mount -Razor 1-6 with HS509T offset -LaRue MBT trigger -VLTOR A5 buffer system
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a solid tool!
@tizben
2 жыл бұрын
How does that buffer system feel compared to stock?
@jordansprad
2 жыл бұрын
A5 is the way on errything
@YenzHouse
2 жыл бұрын
What length barrel ??
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
@@YenzHouse 13.9 is what we use for our GPR
@sweetbabytrae
2 жыл бұрын
Glad I found this channel. Running my 16” with a TA33 and offset rmr, just bought the piggyback mount to give yall’s advice a go. I followed you guys on fb and found I was like 5 days behind the remote memberships filling up for JTAC ranch. I’ll be ready to pounce on it next year though.
@ericj6636
2 жыл бұрын
For me the difference between the two is "medium to long range that can function be pressed into closer usage if needed" for the SPR vs. "Short to medium range that can be pressed into longer usage if needed." for a "Recce" I have a 4-14x44mm Primary Arms FFP scope on a 1.5" Precision Reflex scope mount and top mounted hs407c dot sitting on a Faxon 18" Heavy Fluted Match barrel 1:8 twist 5r rifled in .223 Wylde and a KE Arms KP-15 lower receiver. I wanted it to be light enough to really hump around and I dig the mk12 ish look that it creates. For a "Recce" I'm wanting to build a 13.9-16" mid gas and use an Atibal X 1-10x30mm scope also with a piggybacked 407c, but I don't know of any 35mm scope mounts that have an RMR attachment. I reload PRVI Partizan 75gr OTM bullets because of budget considerations. I can load up about twice as many of those as if I were to buy 77gr mk262 ammo off the shelf. I bought a bunch of reloading supplies during the ammo crisis of 2020 and have been using IMR 4955 powder because that's what was available at the time I ordered.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
Have you been having good luck finding primers by chance?
@ericj6636
2 жыл бұрын
@@barrelandhatchet I bought like 10k early 2020 and am still using those. Haven't looked much since.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
@@ericj6636 good move man, good move
@LiboKJ42
2 жыл бұрын
I like how everyone is running the hot pocket, does it really work that well that everyone is using it?
@wisemencompany
2 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@LiboKJ42
2 жыл бұрын
@@wisemencompany I got one, but haven't shot with it yet. feels awesome, and definitely looks cool too.
@zachgregory1289
2 жыл бұрын
Every time I bust out my mk12 with aem 5 can it gets the most attention. Mk18 and other cool builds are great. But the mk12 always gets the looks. Also I love running it and training with it. Just gets expensive because I like to run match stuff in it.
@Snapper314
2 жыл бұрын
Great job on this! IMHO a RECCE rifle has a 14.5 or 16 inch barrel, a LPVO, a MRDS (offset), and possibly a bipod. A Mini-RECCE has the same specs, but a shorter barrel. An SPR (Special Purpose Rifle) is usually more tailored to mid and longer range use. It has an 18 inch barrel, a Medium Power Optic, a MRDS (offset), and a bipod.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
Nice build, and thanks for the support!
@davidb9323
2 жыл бұрын
Is 1-10 medium power?
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
@@davidb9323 hahaha lol not sure if there is an actual designated zoom catagory
@YenzHouse
2 жыл бұрын
@@davidb9323 that 3-15, 3-18 ranges seems to qualify as medium…
@gregoryedwards9790
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. SPR with a 20 would work too imo.
@primalj_2a433
2 жыл бұрын
To all those who built a "mini recce"...... no you didn't all you did was put a lvpo on a pistol or sbr
@kenshin034
2 жыл бұрын
12.5👑 overall in AR/AK for short and sweet out to too 500,11.5/10.5 for most civilian urban areas out to 350+ w right optic the longest kak is a must huge difference🤣but 16s fine lookin at a 16in 308 MVP patrol for light compact long range heavy hitter takes AR10 mags too 🤷🏽♂️
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
12.5 is a bad a** length for sure!
@bhi7165
2 жыл бұрын
The mk 12 whoops @$$. And... So does a rack grade M4 with a free float handguard and LPVO.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
Amen to that!
@baikal627
2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos and info
@stephengalindo6340
2 жыл бұрын
Like any tool, it’s about your needs and capabilities. If you can’t hit the broad side of a barn with a your recce at 150m you don’t need a long gun for 600m shots. On the other hand, if you’re living in Arizona or Kansas you’re more likely to take longer shots vs here in FL where you’re singing “wide open spaces” if you got 200-300m LOS in the wild lol
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
True, true well said!
@sallyann8971
2 жыл бұрын
I just purchased my second 18 from the same manufacturer and it's running much faster than the first one. Can't touch my old loads from my last barrel
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
huh that is very interesting, ballistics and pressures always amaze
@fanman8102
2 жыл бұрын
I’m older so it’s kinda weird to me cause the term “recce” calls for something like an SBR, a 14” to 16” barrel is a standard rifle that every grunt has and a DMR requires an 18” or 20” barrel or a larger caliber. Still, great conversation!
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
We will actually be talking about “recce” rifles specifically in episode 4. Which comes out this week and redefining the term to general purpose rifle. We believe somehow recce is being misconstrued, and thought processes are not being put in place when building. Recce is the mission. The gun is the tool. We have been finding out more and more what people are calling their recce rifle, is really just a rifle that would be their go to blaster in a shtf scenario
@fanman8102
2 жыл бұрын
@@barrelandhatchet - I’ll be looking forward to it. This video caught my attention so I watched then looked elsewhere and got extremely confused. Had to call my son who was a recent Marine. I got a history lesson then had to chuckle. “I got a recce rifle.” AKA “standard issue” in the Marine Corps. LOL Edit - not trying to be a dick, I just didn’t understand why it was being called a recce rifle. A recce rifle in the Selous Scouts was an FAL. I just wasn’t getting it.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
@@fanman8102 it’s just a new term that has been generated and usually has a certain type of look to it within the industry that is different than what standard mil uses. So we were kinda just bringing things back down to earth, finding what fits you. What are your goals and will serve you best, despite the job you plan on doing
@Wlvrtnjm
2 жыл бұрын
I like 18+ for an spr. BA makes an 18" DMR profile that works well, but it's a chunky boi. My recce setup is using a now discontinued Faxon heavy straight fluted 16". Both barrels absolutely love the Hornady black 62gr (if you can find it).
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
That is a sweet round
@ericj6636
2 жыл бұрын
Discontinued? Man I lucked out. I have that same Faxon as an 18" and it weighs 31oz vs the BA SPR profile barrel of the same length being 41oz. So 10oz weight savings with the Faxon.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
@@ericj6636 I wanna say that BA still produces their SPR barrel, but it shoots super tight groups and it loves 77, 69, and 62 as well
@Token_Black_Guy
2 жыл бұрын
Wow I ended up building a recce rifle by virtual of being poor Sig romeo juliet red dot magnifier combo Bcm grip Streamlight hlx And budget upper
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
dude that sounds like a solid build, the best investment you can make is in yourself through training
@SuperDimi111
2 жыл бұрын
Love these videos.
@Dopeboyz909
2 жыл бұрын
This is a awesome idea 💡 🔥
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
thank you good sir!
@steffensamlal1854
2 жыл бұрын
One question did you take that shopping cart back to Walmart when you were done with it?
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
hahaha cannot confirm or deny
@don8659
2 жыл бұрын
14.5 with Vudu 1-6, RMR, GPS grip pod vertical grip/bipod, streamlight HLX, Vickers sling, Perst 4. Done deal
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
Amen to that!!
@calebwhiteknives
2 жыл бұрын
There's is no such thing as an unhealthy obsession with Mk12 Mod 0's ;)!
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
Hahahah my man!
@jmmartin7766
2 жыл бұрын
Just subbed today. Love the "proof of concepts" you guys are attempting to tackle. Also love that you guys are in Florida-- I was born and raised there. Nice seeing "home" from afar...
@e7tegt503
2 жыл бұрын
Omg so glad I found this channel. Wracking my brain between lpvo and red dot. I have two rifles one has an lpvo the other has a red dot. Like both for different reasons. So put both on each rifle. Duh! Thanks for the great video. Like how you even have a red dot on your longer range spr/dmr. So all the rifles in this video are 0-500 yard guns. Love it!
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
That’s awesome and thanks for the support!
@madjester2645
2 жыл бұрын
Having used a MK12 in my time of service, it is my favorite rifle and would never go without one.... It is my go to
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
Dude many were jealous of you down range, he who holds the mk12 in battle has much SWAG
@madjester2645
2 жыл бұрын
@@barrelandhatchet Ya the MK262 ammo was like cigarettes'' in prison, everyone wanted it.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
@@madjester2645 and willing to do a foot race with a rattlesnake in a dirt pit to acquire some
@ThePatriotParadox
2 жыл бұрын
Would so love a M12 but I think I'll build my 13.5 lightweight first, and may even go with a bolt action for my DMR
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
Not a bad place to start off!
@broskie5255
2 жыл бұрын
Last year I built a side charging AR10 DMR with an 18” barrel in 6.5 Creedmoor. Can that technically be used as a Recce rifle?
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
Anything can be a recce rifle. Some tools are better suited than others, but examples of things to think about, environment, ammo compatibility, aftermarket support, weight, etc
@trevorwilliams6409
8 ай бұрын
Probably covered this already (sorry too much caffeine) what optic magnification do you guys like for SPRs? Heavily leaning into 3x12 or maybe 2.5x10!
@msantifort
2 жыл бұрын
Just put a red dot on any AR and your good to 300yds(zero). If you know what your doing it's good to 500yds by holding at his head at 400yds and about a foot above his head at 500yds. My 10yr old grand son does it all the time with his 16" cheap DPMS and an Aimpoint red dot.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
Dude that is so cool, and your Grandson is a natural it sounds like!
@msantifort
2 жыл бұрын
@@barrelandhatchet We have been blessed with an 800yd field that we practice in all the time. Practice and ballistics makes all the difference. Oh ya and lots of ammo.
@tomjjackson21
2 жыл бұрын
Thank God I stumbled across this channel. I loved everything about this. From the trashy service rifles, the optics configuration, etc. I have multiple rifles that look identical to these. I piggyback rds, not just micros on my spr's as well. You can see an image of a few if you click on my image, and go to my page you can see my mk14 and an FNC. I've actually been running a t2 on top of my ACOG and it's been triggering the insta bois. I've never considered running a riser with my Acogs. I have multiple A2's with Acogs, but have never even seen the KRAM. I dig this ❤️. My go to is SPR is my MODO; the MOD1 is superior, (full PRI so I don't believe it's correct) and I get so much sht for it. Us service rifle guys are a dying breed. The GuCcI and Peasant seem to be the current trend. Though it can sometimes be hard to justify $2k for an accessory that's 3x the price, at a fraction of the performance of current items. Talking to you Mk4..
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the support! And yes the KRAM is a lifesaver and we love trashy mil guns lol. But def go pick up a KRAM riser. The eye relief adjustment alone life changing!
@twiggybones7040
2 жыл бұрын
I just stumbled upon this channel. I like theres not a bazillion subscribers and the content is Gold.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
@@twiggybones7040 thank you so much for the support!!, we hope to continue to provide dope content
@ExplosiveFetus
2 жыл бұрын
"Micro length..." Wait have you been talking to my exes?
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
Hahahah oh lawd
@TheMrwhite6199
2 жыл бұрын
Nothing its a marketing trap to get us to debate and buy more....they both shoot the same bullet...but definitely nothing wrong with options
@theshieldwallnation
18 күн бұрын
Love that conversation and listening to the brains spewing data and knowledge. I do have one question with why you use Ballistic Advantage, why do you use them when they have 1/16 twist? Doesn't the 5.56 using have better ballistic results with its a 1/7 or 1/8 twist?
@brazzy1467
2 жыл бұрын
My favorite factory 77gr OTM is from MAG TECH it's as equal accurate as my handloads. I use Primary Arms optics and I've built the MK12 MOD-O & MOD-H using PRI handguards and 18" 1/7 Douglas barrel's. I'm with y'all I love the MK12's!!!
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
that is awesome. we will have to check out the magic 77 grain, are they easy to find or pretty rare releases?
@brazzy1467
2 жыл бұрын
@@barrelandhatchet they are getting harder to find. I'll see if I have an extra box somewhere. Last summer I had 4000 rounds of my 77gr OTM handloads stolen and 300 rounds of it was the mag tech ammo. If I can find a box I'll get with you and send it so y'all can test it out.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
@@brazzy1467 oh wow that is very generous, and would be a welcome thing to put on film for a future episode
@ChrisHolman
Жыл бұрын
I want to like LPVOs and the SPR and RECCE concepts. I've built RECCE and bought LPVOs. I've trained with them. A RECCE with an LPVO is trying to do multiple things but does nothing as well as a purpose built rifle. I've built SPRs with LPVOs and trained with them, the accuracy is impressive though the terminal ballistics of 5.56 is still anemic beyond 500 meters. An SPR is an attemp to make the 5.56 do what it is not intended to do. Give me a 16" rifle with a red dot + magnifier and I can make that rifle do anything I need it to do and it will do it well. CQB ranges out to 300 or 400 meters is what the AR15 and 5.56 excels at, tactically if I wanted something to reach out beyond that I'm going for a .308. Its not just about hitting the target at range, we have to consider how that round performs in a target at those ranges. Terminal Ballistics should not be ignored.
@henrychristopher9131
2 жыл бұрын
Are you using the ballistic advantage nitride qpq 18'' spr barrel.
@rickysantana5658
2 жыл бұрын
Just moved to the great state of Florida recently and watching this I realize that JTAC 20 mins from my house.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
That is sick! currently the Ranch is sold out of membership slots until April of next year, however if you do take formal course from JTAC Ranch, the instructors do give the students an opportunity to sign up for membership.
@robsnizzle7
2 жыл бұрын
14.5, 1:7 DSArms chromelined, PA Cyclops Slx 1X Compact Prism w 3x magnifier.....love it.
@Michiganbreadboyz_bt8919
Жыл бұрын
I haven’t noticed any pins walking out from my geissele triggers. I will be watching a little more closely now that’s for sure
@joshuadeanb
7 ай бұрын
These shorter barreled “Recces” are more like the Afghan concept from 10+ years ago. Although the Recce rifle wasn’t as concrete as the Mk12, it did have some specifics like the PRI tube, 16” Douglas barrel, and a 2.5-10 Leupold. It’s really the middle ground between the SPR and what you guys are calling Recces.
@keenanschouten2582
2 күн бұрын
Recce = 2MOA at 600 yds. Any gun that can’t accomplish that task is just a long CQB rifle.
@Darkpool79
2 жыл бұрын
Comment for the algorithm gods
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate ya!!!
@mattkilpatrick4667
2 жыл бұрын
Which kram height were you using with that acog that had the rmr on top? the 5.0... 7.0... or 9.0? Thanks and stay safe!!
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
7.0 my man
@marincapital2586
2 жыл бұрын
Iraqi rifle is 18 inches. It has a 2.5 to 10 LPVO One and seven twist to shoot a 77 green projectile. That’s the mod zero or mod one. Don’t go telling people that are Rickey Rifle is 12 1/2 inches knucklehead
@markymark9359
2 жыл бұрын
Eric, what rail are you going to change to on your 13.9”?
@BB-ly3dh
2 жыл бұрын
I love BA barrels. I have the hanson in 223 wylde n it is very accurate and consistant.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
yeah man that barrel is great!
@henney113
11 ай бұрын
Went to Jtac for an event you guys hosted recently. Had a blast, well done! 🥃Just swapped in that same 13.0 Hanson. Looking forward to stretching her legs out.
@gh-gv8mx
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video guys! Love my mock 12! Kac needs to do some big runs on mk12 rails! Not like there not gonna sell! I'd buy 3 today!
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
that's awesome! the spirit of the mk12 flows through you and your build
@MrCashewkitty
2 жыл бұрын
Pisses me off that they are so limited.
@galamonkey
2 жыл бұрын
Cool to see some fellow Floridians. I’ve heard about JTAC, never been there. I’m over in West Pasco. Good video, got a new sub 🤘🏻
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the support fellow FLogrown Homie
@jonwebsterabbott
2 жыл бұрын
I caught the Mk12 bug at the beginning of the Covid Shutdowns and built a clone correct MK12 Mod1. Love the way the gun looks and performs. But it is heavy and I shudder having to carry it long distances. Guns like that are IMHO good for stationary positions or where you will have a limited distance to patrol.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
yeah dude, she is gorgeous, but you must pay her in love and strength due to her weight
@jonwebsterabbott
2 жыл бұрын
@@barrelandhatchet Yep. The big girls need all the love you can give
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
@@jonwebsterabbott hahah anen
@sgtrhyno
Жыл бұрын
What part of Florida are y'all from? We have a pretty good group of guys running SPR's to distance here in NE Florida.
@rednecksniper4715
Жыл бұрын
If it doesn’t have an SPR profile barrel that can accept the AEM5/OCM5 it’s not a Mk12
@cs51207
2 жыл бұрын
he keeps saying mk12 and idk wtf that is lol... just give ammo and barrel length and then just say ar15 from there lol
@sheepdog5132
2 ай бұрын
except SPR stands for Special Purpose Receiver NOT Special Purpose Rifle
@ZOIMIBiIE
4 ай бұрын
It sounds counter intuitive, but the mini acog sight picture and eye relief is wonders better than the standard one
@dnecci1
Ай бұрын
I believe it’s the dirty bird anti walk pins that are compatible with Geissele. They still are allowed to rotate. Which I guess Geissele says it needs.
@Rocky-Stone
2 жыл бұрын
This term Recce annoys me to no end. I guess I just a old fact, what's wrong with the term "Recon"?
@reddoornails5945
25 күн бұрын
A 13" barrel is more in the mk18 territory than a Recce which has a 15.1 minimum.
@cw7legionofpewrights596
2 жыл бұрын
Just ran across your guys vid by accident on here and the thing is people think the sbrs are the new guns for whatever goes down but here’s the thing people forget the poor college student with a Walmart savage axis or a mosin making hits out to 500 yards especially with surplus guns cuz they cut their teeth learning their gun and getting accurate.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
amen! we talk about this in episode 3 that will come out on friday, that you cannot buy performance, you need to train
@flugit
2 жыл бұрын
I can see your solgw barrel whipping
@phillipparker4327
Жыл бұрын
What scope mount is that with the pic rail?
@KillerDoc42
2 жыл бұрын
I built a beautiful & very effective 18” Wilson Combat SS fluted barrel SPR a couple of years ago. I have a 10.3. Now I’m thinking of a Sons Of Liberty 13.9
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
Sons of livery is awesome and that build sounds like a beauty
@timb8970
2 жыл бұрын
What are the terminal ballistics of 5.56mm rounds at 500yds? Velocity and Energy at 500? Thanks.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
That is a great question and something we have talked about trying to experiment with and record for a future episode
@billthebard805
2 жыл бұрын
I would consider the mk12 to be a dmr more than a recce.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
I would agree with that
@azilla04
2 жыл бұрын
You can't have your cake and eat it too with 5.56. the MK18 and MK12 do their specific job well but that's it. You could split the baby and use a 16" but it's a sort of do all that does neither of those jobs as well as the other 2. BUT if you want a true do all rifle a 11.5"-13.9" 6.5 grendel is short enough for the urban work and can reach out if need be.
@iiamlost
2 жыл бұрын
What BA barrel do you all use for your mk12 builds? I was looking at the 18” SPR fluted for my build.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
The standard 18” SPR barrel on their website, the premium barrel.
@JUSTheTIP-on5cb
2 жыл бұрын
Does it make a person cooler if they say “ kit “ rather then gear . Just wondering
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
yes, by at least 20000 points. also we have a bad habit of using crutch words, so get ready to hear it a ton in episode 3
@taylorcleblanc
2 жыл бұрын
Why do so many people have or use mags that dont drop free?
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
Sand and dirt are usually the culprit, however for lefties it helps to just rip the mag out, since you have to bring the right hand up press the mag release
@deejay1534
2 жыл бұрын
Was gonna say, even the most hand-me-down and dirty M4 I was ever issued, the mags were still dropping free no problem, whether it was pmags or USGI aluminums
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
@@deejay1534 yeah it does take a lot of dirt build up, but for lefties its more about ergonomics, strip if its available and doesn't take away anything in terms of performance
@christiandavis5285
2 жыл бұрын
Ok old video but I genuinely hope you respond cause I want to hear you opinion… let’s call that 13.7 or 13.9 a 14 inch barrel basically. Mk12 is 18. Let’s split the difference and have a 16 inch barrel. Let’s stick with BA barrels and go with their 16 inch spr fluted barrel and save 3/4 a pound over the standard 18 inch spr barrel. BAs sister company, AERO, makes super light weight handguards in the Atlas line. Their 13.5 inch handguard is only 10 oz… choose whatever optics system you like ie 1-8, 2-7, 1-10, 2-10 with a top mounted dot. Now I have a gun 3 pounds lighter than a mk12 but it’s ballistically superior to that 13.7. Now I get it, you guys love the mk12. The look, the idea, the history. Same reason I have a mod 1 in 6.5 grendel for medium game hunting. But in terms of a capable rifle in 2022, we have evolved so much since NSW came out with the SPR program. If you are comparing a recce and spr for purely performance in 2022 then let’s keep the guns modern rather than get too tied up in the mk12!
@mikeheadless
2 жыл бұрын
Great info fellas! Looking forward to listening to the next 3.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the support!
@XDWX
2 жыл бұрын
I am stuck trying to decide my next build. I want to basically build an AR in order to practice longer range accuracy at 500+ maybe out to 800 if feasible. I want to use a 16" heavy barrel. I dont know what magnification to use. Would a 1-8 LPVO work well or would it be better to use something higher like a 3-12 scope?
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
Would def recommend something like 6.5 grendal for anything past 600 or possibly jumping into a .308 bolt gun, if your really looking for distance capability that has the kinetic energy at the target at that distance.
@XDWX
2 жыл бұрын
@@barrelandhatchet thanks
@BuckFoeJiden
2 жыл бұрын
Back your red dot zero up to about 75 yards. With a 4.5" height above bore, you'll end up with a very flat trajectory between 25 and 300 yards. With m193 my 20", on the tube mounted dot/SeeAll Open sight, holds low about 2.5" at 25 yards, high 1" at 100 yards, high 2.5" at 175, and low 2" at 300.
@J.Young808
2 жыл бұрын
Would it be advantageous to carry two uppers in SHTF/WROL scenario to swap depending on situation?
@anotheryoutuber_
2 жыл бұрын
no, thats heavy... how many more rounds or food or medical could you carry for that same weight? plus youll make more friends with food and medical vs a gun
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
pre mission planning would help alleviate that issue, the more you planned for that specific scenario you could try and tailor your gear to enhance your chances of success. Ounces do Equal LB's, but it may be nice to have another upper in your vault for more options for your next scenario
@Tom_2025_
2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you for sharing 😎👍
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so Much for the support Tom!
@Spushed
2 жыл бұрын
13.7-14.5” button or 5R rifled barrel getting 2400-2500 FPS from MK262 rounds, while my 416R 3P polygonal rifled 11.5” gets 2500 FPS from MK262. Velocities we’re measured using the magnetospeed V3 chronograph. This clearly shows the superiority of polygonal rifled barrels. I have no idea why it’s not more popular.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
nice nice, agreed, also a lot of folks don't know about companies like BA, so these video series will hopefully shed more light for folks during their builds
@J.Young808
2 жыл бұрын
@@barrelandhatchet I know about Ballistic Advantage. I just built a 14.5 223 wylde, on a WMD nickel boron builders set (15” rail), think it might be a custom designed barrel by my LGS. It looks really good with the pinned muzzle brake just poking out of the hand guard.
@johnm7299
2 жыл бұрын
I just want to know what chest rigs are used. I am trying to find a rig like the guy with the 13.7
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
That was actually our barrel and hatchet chest rig we developed but have halted production on, until we can finish the prototype of gen 3. So stay tuned!
@micahschaefer8211
2 жыл бұрын
I dont understand why everyone wants these shorter length barrels, sometimes with slow twist rates, then put a 1-8 lpvo on it. Recce rifle should be capable of close up work but should shine in medium-long range. Recce is recon and should ideally be done from a distance. If i have to engage at a distance i would be using a longer barrel with a faster twist so i can shoot heavier bullets. Accuracy and lethality at the ranges i would be operating at. 5.56 is a velocity dependant round. A 55gr out of a 13.5" barrel will be lacking in velocity and stabilization so much that your effective range is so close, there wont be a need for a 1-8x.
@Hawkinszm1
2 жыл бұрын
Ive ordered a 13.5” LMT MWS. Debating setting it up in a Recce style vs SPR. Dont plan on “major” distance but would like some accuracy. Any thoughts on the best way to go?
@texasforever6950
2 жыл бұрын
Quality LPVO with offset/piggybacked RDS. 1-6 or 1-8 seems like the sweet spot for a good 13.5-14.5 build. That’s the setup I have on a 14.5 and u can 100% push that thing a good ways out accurately with a good barrel. Just be aware of weight and balance with anything forward on the rail
@Hawkinszm1
2 жыл бұрын
@@texasforever6950 I would tend to agree, but there is a good vid on the 13.5” LMT going out past 1000m. Its capable which puts me in this debate… kzitem.info/news/bejne/uI5n0YKqmp6eeaw
@roccilamantia1344
2 жыл бұрын
I might be the weirdo here but I kind of consider my scar 17 with eo+magnifier as my recce type blaster
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
well It may be comforting for you to know, that SOCOM felt similar
@Slick64
2 жыл бұрын
Not good video for civilians. Anything under 16in is SBR or pistol. Any way a 16 in is just as fast as 14.5 in unless your are having high speed operator. Watch three gun competitions and see how fast they can shoot. The shorter the barrel loss of speed of round.
@Murderface666
2 жыл бұрын
The LARPing is exponential...
@bartowpd342
2 жыл бұрын
I’m building a 13.7 sons of liberty. What trigger are y’all running in yours. I have cmc drop in on my 12.5 and it’s worked great, but I don’t know if I want to run it in my 13.7.
@dtx2735
2 жыл бұрын
Glad you guys started this channel , I'm a "recce" and mk12 dude aswell. Keep up the good content !
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the support!!
@azilla04
2 жыл бұрын
Also it is a fallacy to believe you can't reach you true potential on multiple platforms. That's like saying no one can be a pro at multiple sports, Boe Jackson, Mark Marquez. If you train or practice anything enough you can and will max you potential
@79dogface
2 жыл бұрын
If you choose to put a light on a rifle how and what would you recommend to cover the lens so no one will see any reflections from it ?
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
A good diy way we used to do it was a 550 chord tied and taped to a flashlight body and make a snug fitting green duct tape lens cover for the light, that could squeeze over the lense. Make sure the cordage is short enough where the cap barely is long enough for the lens cover so it doesn’t fall off while walking or firing
@LONEWOLF_LCD
2 жыл бұрын
I know a older video but great video….. I use a Criterion Core on my 18” DMR mk 12 ish build but does great with most ammo but with razor core 77 gr I’m getting stupid accuracy…. The Black hills is a bit hotter but staying around 2700 fps I’m getting sub moa I can’t wait to take it out past 400 yards but 50 to 400 is stupid if I do my part
@winstonnmccay
2 жыл бұрын
not an expert, but pretty sure the Recce rifle was not a thing till the 90's.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
That could be true
@travisduarte4236
2 жыл бұрын
Im loving my pri upper w/ 1:8 on my mk12. Had the gun about 2 months and its wonderful.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
It’s a pain to get on but man it is so worth it and tickles that nostalgia bug
@mattfleming86
2 жыл бұрын
I still like my skinny 16's. If im in a recon/scouting role (or hunting for that matter) I'm - probably - outside. Negligible weight increase, slightly better ballistics, and most importantly it points well. I get some of the advantages of an SPR (but none of the weight) and don't make too many compromises if I'm indoors. If you are comparing the typical "recce"/gpr and the spr, you're doing it wrong. I try to ask, instead, "how can I get the best qualities of both systems" Great video guys.
@edc1350
2 жыл бұрын
My m1a scout is by no means a precision rifle but it’s easily 3moa with iron sights. That being said I would NEVER choose an m1a over a mk12 for a fighting rifle
@jordansprad
2 жыл бұрын
You guys should come to a Quantified Performance match or we need to run one at JTAC.
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm tell me more!
@daryenmirabal2656
2 жыл бұрын
What glass do y'all have on your rifles ?-?×?.?
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
For the mk12 we have a trijicon CREDO 2-10. We just released a video on this optic recently
@barrelandhatchet
2 жыл бұрын
On the GPR, we have an acog with RMR and an eotech vudu 1-8 FFP LPVO
@daryenmirabal2656
2 жыл бұрын
@@barrelandhatchet thanks. I ask be for I got to the end . So I didn't realize you address that 🙈🤣🤣🙏🏼
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