My interpretation of the joke at the end is that it’s a metaphor for Joker and Batman’s Relationship. Joker is pretty much saying “dude you dress as a bat, you’re just as crazy as I am. How the hell are you suppose to help me.”
@blackswampcomics5098
5 жыл бұрын
Best intro on KZitem. Killing joke is an all time classic
@sssaba
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the skyview comparison of so many sets of pages, it was dope to see the stark contrast between the two and good to know that you can read it two ways and have a different experience each time. The Watchmen clearly influenced the color direction of The Killing Joke and perhaps that's what the artist had a problem with, that he didn't want his work to look and feel the exact same way as Dave Gibbon's art in Watchmen, he wanted The Killing Joke to have it's own identity.
@brentlevanen2252
2 жыл бұрын
Awesome review Gem 💎 I never thought the colours were that different between both versions of The Killing Joke
@djoserx
5 жыл бұрын
Batman laughs, put his hands on joker's shoulders and kills him, he talked about killing him at the beginning of the comic to the inmate dressed as joker.
@turtleanton6539
4 жыл бұрын
Probably
@jayedward752
4 жыл бұрын
He did not kill him.
@DarkHorseDanny
3 жыл бұрын
The up to date version looks more clean and realistic whereas the old version has that nostalgic appeal and vibrancy to a dark and twisted tale which makes it ironic. I like them both for different reasons but it’s hard to tell which version I prefer better. Edit: However, some of the red can be off putting as it can be hard to tell what’s going on in the original version.
@mattsmith2911
5 жыл бұрын
Dream team back together. Original version colours imo. The ending to me was always to show that batman and joker aren’t too dissimilar than they think, I think they both laugh to show they are similar and possibly as mad as each other. 2 sides of the same coin.
@marseclipsed5451
5 жыл бұрын
Grant Morrison says that at the end, Bats kills the Joker. It makes sense. Another great video, people. It’s nice to find someone as manic about collected editions as myself.
@forgerelli1
5 жыл бұрын
A superhero book I'd have her try is Starman. It's a long series but very different. Much more human and normal.
@brianlong88
5 жыл бұрын
Love the recent read with both of you, it’s cool perspective to hear what you both think 🤙
@paulseidler1644
5 жыл бұрын
The joke at the end is extremely relevant to Batman and the Joker's relationship. Love it...
@chrisbarrettFilmstudio
5 жыл бұрын
At this point there’s no spoilers for the killing joke
@aleksandarjovanovic8063
5 жыл бұрын
I think phie should read moon knight by jeff lemire because it's very different from usual superhero comics!
@turtleanton6539
4 жыл бұрын
This is a KILLER comic. Getting this absolute for sure.
@momo.ru-kun
5 жыл бұрын
The joke is the ending, the two guys in Joker's story is meant to be Batman and Joker. Batman wants to help the Joker, but the Joker thinks he is just as crazy as he is, but Batman doesn't want to admit it. The joke finally registers to Batman and he and Joker just laughed it out, because they are hopeless. The police sirens came, Joker expects Batman to take a stand and help him, but in the end Batman just gives up Joker to the poilce. Just like the joke, Batman will turn off the light (symbolizing Joker's hope) when he is halfway through. Joker sees himself as a victim of circumstances, thus the Killing Joke.
@GemMintCollectibles
5 жыл бұрын
wow that does make sense
@tonyarabia5175
5 жыл бұрын
Great video. The new look is way better then the old one. You can actually see more detail.
@sirwhopers5903
5 жыл бұрын
this makes me think I should pick this format up I have the hard cover witch is great but I love the idea of the two different styles
@barneyrubble8141
5 жыл бұрын
I remember buying this at the comicbook store when it first came out! Great classic Joker cvr. thanks !
@Memorisethemantra62
5 жыл бұрын
I think the idea or at least what I've gotten from it is, Batman is just as insane as The Joker. personally I prefer the original colours, a lot more Psychedelic, Also for recommendations, I'd say give "Superman For All Seasons" a try, one of my favourites. (also worth mentioning, theres a panel with Moore sat having lunch in one of the flashbacks, always loved that)
@nikoladimitrijevic9713
4 жыл бұрын
It's amazing story. If Joker has to have an origin story, this is it! Also, the art, the best part is the black and white one with colored details, shrimps, helmet and other. I am a bit late on this review but I read it quite a time ago.
@TheDom122
5 жыл бұрын
Love this story, joker is my favourite villain and love the artwork in the new edition.
@steveclark1142
5 жыл бұрын
Some suggestions Batman White Knight Vision by Tom King Old Man Logan Punisher MAX Batman Arkham Asylum Immortal Hulk
@GalileoHopkins
5 жыл бұрын
My recommendation, for Phie and Gem, is the Seven Soldiers omnibus by Grant Morrison.
@tonyarabia5175
5 жыл бұрын
Gem get her to read The Crow.
@godorviktor9045
5 жыл бұрын
Alex Ross Kingdom Come & Marvels, Jeph Loeb - Tim Sale: Daredevil Yellow & Spider-man Blue, Spider-man: Kraven's Last Hunt, Old Man Logan, Hawkeye, Quill
@mistermiracle-dametre4071
5 жыл бұрын
Phie should read that Red Hood Omnibus. Fantastic art and i liked the story when i was new to comics.
@arabmoney9787
5 жыл бұрын
YOO that INTRO!!! 😂😂😂😂 D Cates is the man!
@jacobtizano3855
5 жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Sorry I been slacking on watching your vids. But I have the regular TP and I really love this story but would u recommend I upgrade to the absolute?? Is the extra content worth it?? And next you should do a recent reads on the court of owls or batman by Tim sale feel like that's a superhero movie that's also more of a crime/mystery
@GemMintCollectibles
5 жыл бұрын
its probably not worth the upgrade
@smarfie
5 жыл бұрын
Batman: White Knight. I would love to hear your take Gem & Fee.
@slavicone1355
5 жыл бұрын
This is funny. I just ordered the Absolute Killing Joke yesterday.
@alexanthony7235
5 жыл бұрын
What you think about the animated movie playa?
@GemMintCollectibles
5 жыл бұрын
i should have mentioned the movie...it was pretty bad
@turtleanton6539
4 жыл бұрын
Comic is a ton better
@SomethingJapanese
5 жыл бұрын
The World Of Edena by Moebius. If you liked The Incal.
@HPCthulhu2011
5 жыл бұрын
The Ending: It could be that only one prisoner can escape but the other has to fall, otherwise they both can not escape.
@HPCthulhu2011
5 жыл бұрын
The Ending (more): Doesn't the second version look like it has a bright light shined upon it? That describes or maybe responds to the end joke too. It is not a color version but a light version.
@drsasilekhav.s4444
5 жыл бұрын
hey gem , i live in india here comic nerds are few and prices are very high thor omni cost $100 even with discount in amazon what should i do?
@GemMintCollectibles
5 жыл бұрын
man i dont even know...maybe read digitially
@turtleanton6539
4 жыл бұрын
I wish it were 2 books
@unrulysimian3897
5 жыл бұрын
I was a total Moore convert at the time this came out. I'd read Swamp Thing, Miracleman, and of course Watchmen. Was hugely disappointed in this story. Bollands pencils are excellent. Excellent. Just, and this only my opinion, of course, the most boring work Moore has produced. Still, I love Moore's work. I enjoy " recent reads." AND it is always cool to see Phie and you breaking stuff down. ☮
@rolan5948
4 жыл бұрын
Unruly Simian I heard he doesn’t even like it himself 😂😂
@krayziejones
5 жыл бұрын
Aw shit, get down Leathaface!
@Benm701
5 жыл бұрын
Frank Miller DD, TDKR, All Star Superman, Saga, Greg Rucka WW, Old Man Logan, Y: The Last Man, Bone, Vision, Sheriff of Babylon
@tommullings9912
5 жыл бұрын
It's all down hill after this fi
@sharpaycutie2
3 жыл бұрын
This should be yhe definitive Joker Backstory because it gives so much PURPOSE and reason as to why he does what he does. Form the Clown Motif to his cynical view on life and his sick "jokes". And the tragedy if it all. This Palin Jane guy who quit his day job to fufill his dream and struggling about to have a kid and his life fell apart on one night😔
@steveclark1142
5 жыл бұрын
I like the original version's colors better.
@mattsmith2911
5 жыл бұрын
Re dope superhero book. Immortal iron fist or daredevil both by brubaker. Peace
@gamedaysam
4 жыл бұрын
The newer colours are better especially the flashback scenes but the older colours make the scenes more impactful
@Kelvin-cr2nf
Жыл бұрын
I would love to see what you and your wife think about the other incal titles and the metabarons series.
@superproducercbiz
5 жыл бұрын
At the end It was insinuated that Batman killed joker cuz one of them stopped laughing
@jayedward752
4 жыл бұрын
Moore stated Joker didn't die.
@actionreaction3743
4 жыл бұрын
@@jayedward752 Take a look at the afterword. The artist himself implies that Batman killed the joker at the end.
@unclejemima5991
3 жыл бұрын
Sunny SA that was just Brian Bolland giving us a troll
@a.a677
Жыл бұрын
@@actionreaction3743 Moore always said that Batman doesnt kill the Joker, nor should he
@DrumondArt
5 жыл бұрын
Great story! Phie is absolutely right, original colors are the best, the recoloring is boring! :)
@arabmoney9787
5 жыл бұрын
Thor: God of Thunder is a pretty quick read and the story is perfect for somebody not familiar with the character.
@danhopalot
5 жыл бұрын
I heard it somewhere and it always stuck with me, but the 2 different coloring choices could represent our perspective in the new coloring, and Jokers perspective in the old bright, psychedelic type coloring. I can't remember where I heard that originally though.
@turtleanton6539
4 жыл бұрын
Thats really dope
@acebobbomb
5 жыл бұрын
Man nothing better than having King Gembo and Queen Phiebo in the house! And plus, I thought the Killing Joke was better than Watchmen!💎🤡👺👹
@Benm701
5 жыл бұрын
Mr. And Mrs. X!
@edoardodicesare2373
5 жыл бұрын
both of you should read vinland saga, if you enjoyed berserk, you have to read it. think of it like, if the golden age arc of berserk kept going, but in a norse setting. and the characters are fucking amazing. kodansha sells these amazing hardcovers for 20 bucks each, they are basically giving them away, so support them :P
@thestruggler777
5 жыл бұрын
Edoardo Di Cesare I agree with this. I’ve read the first 6 volumes of Vinland saga in two weeks. Absolutely loving the series.
@walterszewczyk9024
3 жыл бұрын
Read the three Jokers, it explains a lot about "the" Joker. Batman knows his name & it turns out the wife & unborn child didn,t perish in a freak accident as told in book. It did come out in 1988 though actually. This revelation to me changes everything, is it the police,s fault in part for him going crazy? Just kind of weird is all.
@Marcus-ru1ht
3 жыл бұрын
Gem :Everyone can become a villian, all it takes is one bad day. Jim Gordon: Hold my beer.
@jamiedunne2671
4 жыл бұрын
Check out grant Morrison's theory for the ending on fatman on batman with Kevin Smith!
@maus0392
5 жыл бұрын
I always tought that the joke represents the joker and batman. And that the end is that batman killed the joker because it looks like that batman strangled the joker.
@joshuaagee-bass4049
4 жыл бұрын
The script shows he didn’t kill Joker.
@HardcoreCF18
5 жыл бұрын
Another really good one is absolute Batman hush
@turtleanton6539
4 жыл бұрын
Yuup
@periyasamyps3566
3 жыл бұрын
I really want a hand of those
@williamlee2182
5 жыл бұрын
ROFL best intro ever
@daytona2924
5 жыл бұрын
I Wana see her review some statues
@savouropatty
5 жыл бұрын
Love the intro man 😃
@jakenap7184
5 жыл бұрын
You guys should read Alias together, great story
@unclejemima5991
3 жыл бұрын
The new one is just so much better
@drewga8380
4 жыл бұрын
You should read Grant Morrison’s Arkham Asylum
@bobkelsh6844
5 жыл бұрын
promethea...and its not a comic book. it's a guide to the occult and magic.
@GemMintCollectibles
5 жыл бұрын
Bob Kelsh we read it
@bobkelsh6844
5 жыл бұрын
@@GemMintCollectibles i thought it was an interesting way to use the medium
@bluevanzant2210
5 жыл бұрын
Awsome, the video opens up with "Fuck yourself, I dont know", I love this channel, this is what I call TV, lol
@Benm701
5 жыл бұрын
Trillium
@comicsandstuff616
5 жыл бұрын
If this is your wife’s first DC read, then how can she say she’s never liked DC??? Not even been giving it a chance and judging...
@GemMintCollectibles
5 жыл бұрын
from other media
@GemMintCollectibles
5 жыл бұрын
i always tell her they tend to have better comics
@RedRightStrawHat
5 жыл бұрын
I don't like killing joke i think because it humanises the joker
@diegoalva3742
5 жыл бұрын
Alan Moore said that in that story Batman kills the joker. That’s why it’s called the killing joke. It was suppose to be out of continuity but then dc made it canon.
@taylorchance4386
5 жыл бұрын
That's actually what Grant Morrison said he theorized on the Fatman on Batman podcast it's never been outright stated by Moore or it's not implied in the scripts for it, but it's a theory I do like.
@turtleanton6539
4 жыл бұрын
It was my Interprention too
@Htownblokhedz
4 жыл бұрын
Batman killed Joker at the end
@johnnyrando4587
5 жыл бұрын
I always read it as the final Joker story. In the last three panels Batman strangles Joker and the laughing stops. Joker dies Kid
@dwayne4244
5 жыл бұрын
I don't like DC but I'd never read a DC book lol
@GemMintCollectibles
5 жыл бұрын
she wasnt a fan of the characters through other media
@MrMulligan84
5 жыл бұрын
We will turn Fi into a DC fangirl yet... Recommendations: Superman Red Son, Death in the Family, Old Man Hawkeye
@MrMulligan84
5 жыл бұрын
Also Gem - thanks to this video you got me right onto Amazon to buy Killing Joke and Flashpoint because I've never read either, and need to be in the loop. This is turning into a book club, I love it but I am gonna have to turn tricks to pay for this.
@aceyross9173
5 жыл бұрын
I bought a 1963 green lantern omnibus and hate it anywhere that is good to get rid of it
@GemMintCollectibles
5 жыл бұрын
lmao
@jeremyg371
5 жыл бұрын
Good review you two, your not popping up on my list anymore I have to search for your videos, youtube is fkd up lately, it's giving me kitty and politics videos and eight-year-old comic videos. Nothing I'm subscribed to or have bell notes on. Have a great day.
@UnderdogTactics
4 жыл бұрын
Your wife is right. Stick with the old version. It's Joker's story and should be crazily colored.
@jeanmalo7173
4 жыл бұрын
the original is more "disco"...lol
@Isayseeno
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah the new one is a lot better the original would be hard to read. Almost look like the colorist threw up on it
@turtleanton6539
9 ай бұрын
😊🎉😊
@crimsondragon18
5 жыл бұрын
VERY overrated unintersting story, i'd always heard how great it was but when i finally read it found it quite boring, maybe it was good for its time idk but otherwise personally didn't like this one, Alan moore himself didnt even like it. Love the channel though man.
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