This really is worth becoming UCF v1.0 after all this time. I hope the community finally becomes ready for it.
@Pslamist
2 жыл бұрын
Or... Y'know... UCF2022...
@genuwhine6782
2 жыл бұрын
they are when they have 400$ modded to fuck controllers
@cjkmelee
2 жыл бұрын
@@genuwhine6782 that's exactly the problem IMO. There is an entire little economy (goomwave) of controller modders and they have a lot of clout, particularly on Twitter where they can (and do) denounce everything Hax proposes because... I dunno vindictiveness?
@Pslamist
2 жыл бұрын
@@cjkmelee - Spot on. They're not ALL that pretentious, as there's a lot of really wholesome modders out there, but the vocal minority keep the others either afraid to speak or logged out of Twitter for good reason.
@Pslamist
2 жыл бұрын
@Sickcash - Hard agree; I've asked N3z about similar stuff before, too.
@GoMaDssb
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with Hax, except I wouldn't use the word "final" since that's rarely the case for anything.
@oceanwaves83
2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, give it a week
@whjk83921
2 жыл бұрын
Phantoms are incredibly stupid and should be fixed imo, but that's technically not a 'controller fix.'
@danielbojkovski723
2 жыл бұрын
@@whjk83921 would you rather the phantom miss or hit instead? Either way its a very miniscule change
@whjk83921
2 жыл бұрын
@@danielbojkovski723 It does not matter, so long as if it misses, it doesn't cancel the future frames of the hitbox from contacting the opponent.
@r3aperrising984
2 жыл бұрын
Let's gooooooo! This just makes so much sense to me, it's bassically just fixing what is broken in the game and bring all controllers to parity with one another. Fantastic!
@hibernate44
2 жыл бұрын
It’s an absolute shame that top players and fizzi say close to nothing about this publicly. The timeline where hax just let go of his beef with leff would put Melee into the space age
@NintenJoe
2 жыл бұрын
Jesus Christ you are deluded hax isn't some sort of saviour. PracticalTAS and other community figures talk about controllers a lot. Fizzi's only focus is ranked at the minute, don't put that responsibility on him.
@octiviana
2 жыл бұрын
@@NintenJoe I don't think big homie here is putting the responsibility on anyone besides Hax's. Dude is just saying that a lot of people no longer will share Hax's ideas in social media spaces and that does kinda suck. Like, if mango was out here talking about the same shit Hax just did the community would have implemented it in an instant. But people aren't and that's on Hax.
@bailujen8052
2 жыл бұрын
@@NintenJoe leffen keeps trying to unfairly selling out people such as Hax, Hbox and also ZeRo. I call Leffen a murderer after he and Jisu almost indirectly murdered ZeRo with slanders.
@hibernate44
2 жыл бұрын
@@NintenJoe theres no pedestal, he's doing really good work for Melee's future, but not only is it not being implemented, its being completely ignored due to his social issues. There isnt even a discussion from any of the top players/ T.Os / commentators that is publicly available about these proposed changes. Hax screwed up big time socially, and the melee community is sadly not taking steps forward due to it.
@NintenJoe
2 жыл бұрын
@@bailujen8052 technicals drone
@mrbananoid
2 жыл бұрын
that pro ending tho lol, good shit hax. can't wait to see how all of this unfolds
@genuwhine6782
2 жыл бұрын
IF you use a goomwave and you are against these types of mods you just want an advantage others dont have lmafo
@orez_ssb
2 жыл бұрын
literally lmao
@verbosed
2 жыл бұрын
Goomers seething at their controllers aging worse than westballz.
@jarofflies1
2 жыл бұрын
They should forget about Nintendo altogether and focus to grow the community over the new technologies. Follow Nintendo rules for little to no support is stupid, after all they have no interest in the game at all.
@bailujen8052
2 жыл бұрын
That's why there needs to be a platform fighter that parodies Melee
@thepokemanguy5815
2 жыл бұрын
Do they have a choice? With the circuit Nintendo is wanting to get involved, and with the big house incident it’s risky to go too far outside Nintendo. I wish we could but it’s tough
@aplsed
2 жыл бұрын
That end skit got me by surprise, and I love it
@10Gpixels
2 жыл бұрын
I really hope top players put their trust in this instead of complaining about B0XX controllers again, because this has a lot of potential. I'd love to see a melee scene where players aren't forced to play the controller lottery to get the chance at a fair fight, or without having to spend $150+ for a decent controller.
@Zxv975
2 жыл бұрын
5:05 "I know that branding is the only thing holding my work back" I'm glad you made this realisation. As sad as it is, that is how the world ultimately works. The majority of people are *not* technical experts and therefore make judgements based on how things make them feel. People respond more to a face they trust than they do to sound logic. The recognisable face is comforting, whereas the average person does not have the analytical skills to take comfort in sound logic. They can outsource their comfort to an authority figure they trust, rather than take on the uncomfortable feeling of making a judgement based on their own reasoning (and therefore accepting blame if they are wrong). I have been with you all along Hax and I've been following your arguments very carefully. I've agreed with most things you've put forward, but I recognise I'm only able to keep up with your technical discussions because I have both a heavy investment in melee AND a highly technical university degree under my belt. I am very used to technical language and discussion, but the majority of people aren't. You will not convince the average person with technical discussions, because they've already lost interest and disengaged before you can present your conclusion. I've lost count of the number of battles I've had to surrender due to an imbecile completely ignoring the mathematically derived facts I presented. But now I've learned an important trait of human nature from those repeated interactions. I now know the way I was presenting the information was flawed, and this came about by shifting my goal to convincing people, rather than merely presenting logic that was infallible (subtle but important difference). You've created a quality product here Hax, and that is the the major skillset you bring to the table. If you find marketing disingenuous then it is fine to accept that this is not a strength of yours and to outsource it to people who are skilled in that area. It would be an absolute shame to see what is objectively a step in the right direction for the melee community be drowned out by essentially drama. Remember there is a reason why companies dedicate half of their budget to marketing: it is the most important aspect of any successful product. There have been quality products that have failed because they did not make this realisation early enough. Don't be one of these failures because you are too stubborn to play the game (although I know that you won't because of the excerpt I quoted above).
@jeanetteustin8311
2 жыл бұрын
HAX$ is actively trying to bridge the UCF controller fixes with his own 1.03 Memory Card fixes. The 2 parties have worked together before. For the benefit and future of Melee they can work together again to create a more superior product both for Slippi and tournament play. This would be optimal for the whole Melee community going into the future.
@connermartin8510
2 жыл бұрын
tldr; smash is full of people who can't make decisions for themselves
@Zxv975
2 жыл бұрын
@@connermartin8510 No, the world is. This is not unique to smash.
@connermartin8510
2 жыл бұрын
@@Zxv975 much more prevalent in smash tho the player base is much younger which is optimal age for being a sheeple
@declanmckenna2795
2 жыл бұрын
Anyone with their thinking cap on straight knows this 1.03/UCF 1.0 is objectively better. It's all about politics between the community and Nintendo, Hax, and so on. I hope we update UCF
@Luper1billion
2 жыл бұрын
It is objectively better. The only reason the politics has to happen is because the community has to decide if UCF will become mandatory in every LAN tournament. It creates a logistical problem that can be solved, but everyone has to agree.
@TenThousandTacos
2 жыл бұрын
“All who don’t agree with me are not thinking straight. My position is objective.” Be very careful thinking like this
@bailujen8052
2 жыл бұрын
I hope the update buffs low tiers where they are as good as Samus
@jawhnie
2 жыл бұрын
i feel like the only reason ppl would be opposed to this is cause they bought a modded controller or they ARE a controller modder. we need dis
@darwintruong4161
2 жыл бұрын
Melee TO’s: “Let’s ban Hax since he’s a bad person” Hax: *Fixes the game* Melee TO’s “I see absolutely nothing”
@bailujen8052
2 жыл бұрын
Leffen: tries to sell out every top player of smash Melee TO's: ignores it
@user-xz4pv2sw7u
2 жыл бұрын
@@bailujen8052 all my homies hate leffen
@bailujen8052
2 жыл бұрын
@@user-xz4pv2sw7u all of that slanders by Leffen and many other liars makes me want to destroy the smash community and rebuild it from smash. Also accusing celebrities for horrible things even if it were true or false, it hides the bottom of the pyramid who actually do.
@thebigdug
2 жыл бұрын
every figurehead/top player i've seen even acknowledge this new version of UCF says "it will never catch on because nintendo would never sponsor an event that uses it" and then just leaves it at that. can you address some kind of way that it can be made invisible enough that nintendo doesn't know about it during tournaments?
@GoMaDssb
2 жыл бұрын
Couldn't that argument be used against the current version of UCF?
@Katsunne
2 жыл бұрын
@@GoMaDssb no, and it cant be used for 1.03 either, it's simply a dismissive statement people used to take themselves out of conversation they arent capable of having.
@tenslein8977
2 жыл бұрын
I thought the Melee community was done getting cucked by Nintendo. The Melee community has Stockholm Syndrome. What happened to "fuck nintendo"?
@tetros5265
2 жыл бұрын
@@tenslein8977 my guess is because Nintendo is doing their first official melee tournament that people do not want to "get onto their bad side"
@Eckendenker
2 жыл бұрын
The community doesn't seem to be thriving because of Nintendos attention. It's just a carrot on a stick from a company that cares nothing about your scene. Cut the line and be done with it.
@ArtemisGlitch
2 жыл бұрын
Hax is a god he doesnt need to do this at all. He plays and invented the boxx. This is just for the controller community. Godlike.
@lewisbirkett4428
2 жыл бұрын
Yesss the button remap is what I look forward to most
@height5558
2 жыл бұрын
FREE HAX LETS GOOOOOOO
@pablopa_SSBM
2 жыл бұрын
That ending tho :O
@burntfish123
2 жыл бұрын
Shame that like always the melee community will probably dig in its heels and resist any change, but once it gets through it will be great for everyone Edit: grammar
@DarkTriadSSBM
2 жыл бұрын
its baffling that top players refuse to compete on a regular basis when we have such good online yet they bar hax from competing
@shrekstacy
2 жыл бұрын
Melee truly is saved
@lizardy2867
2 жыл бұрын
The more stingy we are with changes, the more we will inevitably try to accept the unfair conditions we have with the game. I don't want to accept randomness due to a controller, I want to accept the opponent's skill and my own. No johns, just good gameplay.
@Pslamist
2 жыл бұрын
It is ironic that the community is largely approaching the issue of fairness (as introduce by UCF2022) in an unfair manner.
@randomcubestuff3426
2 жыл бұрын
ok what if your opponent's name is john HUH???
@Pslamist
2 жыл бұрын
@@randomcubestuff3426 - 😐 ... 😠
@randomcubestuff3426
2 жыл бұрын
@@Pslamist :(
@TheRealSorav
2 жыл бұрын
The vertical throw thing is a REAL ISSUE. It really pisses me off! That needs to be implemented!
@keb7066
2 жыл бұрын
luv u hax !!
@hahahalala-i1x
2 жыл бұрын
LMAOOAOAOAOOA THAT ENDING looking like elon al-yami
@Spelunkyman
2 жыл бұрын
will there be a hidden ucf version of this mod for major organizers who may potentially be worried about nintendo? really hoping this gets adopted into play, but i feel like that may be what is also holding this mod back from being the standard. this might be a very dumb question, so if someone is able to correct me on this pls do!!!! appreciate what ur doing 4 melee, free hax ong
@whjk83921
2 жыл бұрын
There is no way that if this gets adopted they won't also make a hidden version.
@Pslamist
2 жыл бұрын
If it becomes UCF v1.0 (integrated with what is used in tournaments already), then there will undoubtedly be a "stealth mode" or whatever it needs to be called.
@jeanetteustin8311
2 жыл бұрын
@@Pslamist You are correct - it would be called the "stealth mode" version for tournaments.
@tenslein8977
2 жыл бұрын
How will tournaments deal with Boxx controllers? Surely those stand out just as much as a menu mod.
@Pslamist
2 жыл бұрын
@@tenslein8977 - Yes and no; Nintendo is fine with whatever hardware you plug into the game, so long as it doesn't modify their software (detectably).
@OATMEALDOOM
2 жыл бұрын
hax dont save melee for 1 week challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
@Zinksk8er
2 жыл бұрын
It's time guys. Let's fix this stuff and have a functional experience.
@LoopZoopler
2 жыл бұрын
really hoping this takes off
@sareaper69
2 жыл бұрын
Love this tbh
@Nearnae
2 жыл бұрын
LMFAO that is the hax we know and love. Hax is here for business
@bambi2812
2 жыл бұрын
i told you guys it was my controller
@alizster3186
2 жыл бұрын
damn I didn't know dan salvato is a high ranking member of the melee community thats crazy bro
@MrHardgabi
2 жыл бұрын
Perfect
@eggmcmuffins466
2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU HAX!!!! I LOVE HAX$!!!!
@sSynclare
2 жыл бұрын
goated
@PoorStargazer
2 жыл бұрын
Melee is saved!
@EvilApple567
2 жыл бұрын
I'm not gonna do a whole in depth write up here, but while I do think the boxx is pretty excellently designed in terms of its coordinate lock out mechanics that attempt to nerf it on par with GCCs, Dan's quote at 1:28 still demonstrates why digital controllers will always be superior in some regards to analog. Anything that involves analog travel time will be inherently inconsistent, while digital inputs don't suffer (at least in the same way) from this issue. Things like ledgedashing (even with C-stick drop to prevent fastfalls, which is still better on digital due to no accidental aerials), pivot jumps, empty pivots, etc. will never reach digital consistency, even with emulated PODE. Is this a game breaking issue (even at the highest level)? Probably not, but this also brings up another issue in that digital controllers offer the best of high and low PODE functions. For example, a controller (or Goomwave setting) with high Y axis PODE and low X will be able to perform flick pivot up and down tilts into the firefox notches, but will suffer in other areas such as ledgedashes and Samus' superwavedash. Digital controllers can perform all of these optimally and simultaneously, as well as many other highly technical but conflicting analog techniques. Yes you sacrifice certain analog values in the process (which analog players can't consistently target anyway), but imo box controllers will never be on a level playing field with GCCs until they further development on emulating analog functionality (and it may well never reach that point without some major compromise like the Smash Stick). That all being said imo the only digital controller that should even be in the conversation for the time being for high level tournament legality is the Boxx, the Frame 1 and Smashbox are completely busted and aren't even trying to balance themselves with GCCs by implementing the nerfs used to legalize digital controllers to begin with, despite (afaik) ripping off the design of the controller that successfully pioneered them. Also if any of my understanding of digital controllers is wrong, feel free to let me know, I'd feel much less uneasy knowing they're not as busted as I believe.
@rockstar57HD
2 жыл бұрын
digital will always be superior to analog in certain areas but to compensate hax made the B0XX weaker in other areas, for example the pivot up/down tilt nerf forces you to wait a couple frames before being able to perform the move bringing it in line with doing an empty pivot on a GCC and then doing an up/down tilt. also frame 1 has all the B0XX nerfs except the pivot tilt and sdi nerfs
@TenThousandTacos
2 жыл бұрын
Those two nerfs are incredibly significant, and enough of a reason to call into question the legality of Frame1
@rockstar57HD
2 жыл бұрын
@@TenThousandTacos i agree that those nerfs are significant and that the frame1 should have them but acting like that puts it on the same level of brokenness as the smashbox is just ludicrous
@TenThousandTacos
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think anyone is arguing that they are equally broken. But two days ago I got 3 frames of SDI on a Falcon’s backair due to lack of the SDI nerf on Slippi for b0xx. It’d be very difficult for me to argue in good faith that the ease with which I got that SDI is competitively fair
@rockstar57HD
2 жыл бұрын
@@TenThousandTacos the original comment lumps frame1 with smashbox and calls them both completely busted and that neither of them are trying to balance themselves which is unfair to the frame1. i do agree though that being able to easily get 3 sdi inputs in a 3 frame window isnt particularly fair and i am in no way saying i think the frame 1 is fine without those 2 nerfs
@MarcPeters
2 жыл бұрын
This man is what melee needs
@200_MXP
2 жыл бұрын
Ive been modding my own controllers to jump with z and grab with y since 2015
@jtm94
2 жыл бұрын
This is fine and all, just add custom controls. Limiting the only change to be Z jump is silly, just allow custom controls, especially when controllers like box are infinitely customizable + allow turning off tap jump.
@XxHistorikxX
2 жыл бұрын
Let's goooiii
@RAGERPLAYS
2 жыл бұрын
The death of hax fucking broke must happen for hax fucking money to rise once more!! Also you an actual legend for having metal battle enabled . That song is actually fire
@randyrz5214
2 жыл бұрын
#freehax I wish see Hax in genesis
@Makrillol
2 жыл бұрын
this needs to happen!
@TheRealSorav
2 жыл бұрын
I love the ending to the video! LMAO
@supersonicstyleatsonicspeed
2 жыл бұрын
#freehax
@JadenSmithEyes
2 жыл бұрын
this dude literally put up an HD picture of apples and oranges. I'm dead
@nari1897
2 жыл бұрын
Melee is alive
@se2007ian
2 жыл бұрын
Melee is saved :D!!! tysm man!!11
@bailujen8052
2 жыл бұрын
Questions How much would the 1.03 memory card cost since i am in Australia?
@rakanelafrangi161
2 жыл бұрын
HOLY FUCK, THIS. CHANGES. EVERYTHINGGGGGG
@jpoggi9081
2 жыл бұрын
Funny outro! But I agree, and all your points should be considered publicly
@heyitsAOI
2 жыл бұрын
How the hell did this man get Dan salvato to come back from drawing girls and ropes to talking about melee for 10 min on end
@thebigdug
2 жыл бұрын
he's using an old video Dan made back when UCF was first announced in 2017
@Pslamist
2 жыл бұрын
@@thebigdug - Still hype.
@Vestedd
2 жыл бұрын
I'm game. Anything to make my dogshit controller less dogshit. I'm casual enough that buying a $500 controller is stupid. But I'm good enough to know when my controller fucked up. Sadge life.
@seannolan3927
2 жыл бұрын
so, all the hype just to drop a video of things you've said 100s of times, and requested 100s of times but this time, just as dan salvato saying it too. I was atleast expecting actual confirmation that UCF/slippi have begun to impliment this. But, no.. its just a cry for help? just a video asking for them to join you? This seems like somethign that should be done via DMs, or Conference calls. im all for the changes, I was 15 videos ago but please stop doing announcement of announcement posts just to drop rehashed videos of what you've already stated/asked for. Great video, just annoyed.
@rockstar57HD
2 жыл бұрын
you think the people that banned him and denounced his changes initially would be willing to talk with him about why his fixes are better than theirs in private? only way hes able to get them to even acknowledge the fixes is by getting a lot of people talking about them via these videos. i do think the overhyping of his videos gets annoying though
@jeanetteustin8311
2 жыл бұрын
Although you may get annoyed - it's because change in Melee comes very slowly. HAX$ is calling for unity. This video has more implications than you are able to see today. Give it time to sink in. That's the only way change occurs in this community.
@BurkenHp
2 жыл бұрын
While i understand some of the changes (Cardinal 1 for example) i do not believe most of theses changes are actually good for UFC. The point of UCF is not to make the game EASIER to execute, nor more consistent. It's to make the game less reliant on controller lottery. For example the Up-throw change and the smash DI change seems more like "help" then controller equality. These changes are very similar to the logic of automatic L-cancelling. it doesnt help with any unfairness, it only makes it easier. So i think what Hax presents is more a "Patch" for melee, which is a more controversial topic. I believe it needs to be separated from "Universal controller fix".
@leaffinite2001
2 жыл бұрын
I love these bcuz i feel like such a doofus using my wired switch pro controller on slippy lmao
@Pslamist
2 жыл бұрын
Hey, we still welcome you with open arms, buddy. I hope that controller isn't ruining your hands though. Is it alright? Do you have something like jump on one trigger and lightshield on another one?
@leaffinite2001
2 жыл бұрын
@@Pslamist i mostly play very casual unranked and bots, so no hand worries here! I actually prefer it to the og gcc, cuz the face buttons are smaller and closer together. I put light shield on left bumper and no trigger for jump. Non optimal but whatever
@TheManaLord
2 жыл бұрын
Nice mate
@killmarseille2225
2 жыл бұрын
free hax till its backward
@scythea428
2 жыл бұрын
Yo Fizzi, next update 1.03 Beta Queue? I see no harm in trying!
@Pslamist
2 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah.
@100mangroper
2 жыл бұрын
i would do anything to have the throw fix
@dougiejones5719
2 жыл бұрын
Melee is dead, LONG LIVE MELEE!!!
@justinsmith30
2 жыл бұрын
Is this Jesus or Hax$
@algar6616
2 жыл бұрын
Good guy
@g-bear83
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry for the dumb question but, does the 1.03 memory card include z jump button or is that only possible when on pc?
@s_gaming71
2 жыл бұрын
One very important thing in my opinion is that you NEED to consider that some people use X to jump more frequently than Y. I dont play spacies and I play smash since 64 for over 20 years and I use X to jump like 80% of the time so the Z jump remap only replacing X would be terrible for me I would never use that..
@Pslamist
2 жыл бұрын
Valid concern, but it's an -optional- swap of X -or- Y with Z. Either hold X+Z or Y+Z on the CSS to activate one of them, or choose to do neither. Your needs have obviously been considered.
@yelv
2 жыл бұрын
13:05 holy shit lets gooo
@LactationMan
2 жыл бұрын
is the end a bit? its so funny lmfao
@Pslamist
2 жыл бұрын
People forget that Hax has (and is allowed to have) a sense of humor. Lol
@matrixyst
2 жыл бұрын
@@Pslamist they also forget that his personality has literally always been like this, man has been making absurd and self-deprecating jokes for years
@jeanetteustin8311
2 жыл бұрын
Watch HAX$ Goes To The Doctor
@Swill_
2 жыл бұрын
gonna start @ing hax in marketing mondays lmao good vid also what if I only want to do step 3
@braxaculee
2 жыл бұрын
z jump needs to happen for sure
@zacharyharris469
2 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait to use this on slippi dolphin
@smithclaxton3357
2 жыл бұрын
If hax put the ending in beggining he wouldve been unbanned by now
@jommeez
2 жыл бұрын
InternetExplorer!?
@akasakasvault7597
2 жыл бұрын
Wait dan salvato is a melee veteran wtf
@tehchives
2 жыл бұрын
dude dan salvato is an OG, he made 20XX years and years before DDLC
@akasakasvault7597
2 жыл бұрын
@@tehchives yeah I'm seeing that now
@Brain-washed2
2 жыл бұрын
melee is saved
@gnardawgyt
2 жыл бұрын
When will the community actually address your videos? 😂
@Pslamist
2 жыл бұрын
💔
@NintenJoe
2 жыл бұрын
Who is "the community". I know toph and pp give their thoughts on controller stuff
@gnardawgyt
2 жыл бұрын
@@NintenJoe Toph hasn't made a video about Hax's memory card
@IvanCastroCampoy
2 жыл бұрын
What a meme way to finish the video LMAO
@2saint
2 жыл бұрын
#FreeHax
@Rhyvn
2 жыл бұрын
Melee is saved
@Gianluca_YouTube
2 жыл бұрын
but i want R to be grab too. ;_;
@MinecraftGuy7320MC
2 жыл бұрын
Hax's final solution
@awogbob
2 жыл бұрын
No hax your obsessive open source and explained solution to controller parity isn't allowed In my free melee community we only like black box modded controllers running closed source code with different variations at any given moment
@awogbob
2 жыл бұрын
Oh and the controllers cost $300
@abbe1255
2 жыл бұрын
A problem I’ve been having with normal melee is that trying to fall from ledge with c-stick is very inconsistent due to getting immediate aerials
@NintenJoe
2 жыл бұрын
If you move to another direction eg drop down with left but accidentally go to down left then you get an aerial. Try to keep the stick movement as straight as possible.
@abbe1255
2 жыл бұрын
@@NintenJoe I’ve tried but it’s hard to do consistently for me. It’s not a major problem but could maybe be fixed in UCF
@Tripleyou
2 жыл бұрын
My top 3 wishes for UCF in addition to all of hax' proposed changes are 1. Ledge dash fix 2. Snap back fix 3. Pivot fix
@outcrazy6570
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with snapback, but making pivoting and ledgedashing easier lowers the skill needed to perform such tech, thus allowing normal players to do extremely hard and precise things with little to no practice.
@pcb_404
2 жыл бұрын
@@outcrazy6570 it does result in sicker melee though and still has the skill ceiling in space.
@NintenJoe
2 жыл бұрын
None of these are feasible
@Tripleyou
2 жыл бұрын
@@outcrazy6570 your respponse sounds exactly like what people used to say about shield dropping. And let's be real. When you got a pivot controller, it's not very hard to do them. But when you don't, it's damn near impossible to the point that you 'should' give up on the technique. It's simply too unreliable.
@Tripleyou
2 жыл бұрын
@@NintenJoe Good netplay wasn't feasible. Enter fizzi.
@alizster3186
2 жыл бұрын
ayyoooooooooooooooooooooo dan salvato, bro whhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaat
@nathanhayward7162
2 жыл бұрын
ive heard that 1.03 has a slight nerf to icies. Is this true?
@chrispo7610
2 жыл бұрын
I don't think there are char specific nerfs/buffs but simply making shit more consistent
@s_gaming71
2 жыл бұрын
Hax , while I do agree with most of what you are trying to say, you really really need to learn to stop talking in such a way that presents your opinions as absolute truth. Even if you believe them to be truth and even if many or most people agrees, the tone you take sounds like you are saying your opinion should be regarded as absolute truth of absolute perfection. Again, I agree with your points but man you really go out of your way to make it sound so suspicious for absolutely no reason lol
@AIRFGC
2 жыл бұрын
Anything that makes sure that players like Armada don't drop out of tournaments because their particular controller doesn't work, that stuff is embarrassing Best of luck in getting things sorted, Melee community
@Pslamist
2 жыл бұрын
The entire community SO quickly forgot how big of a deal this was. He decided not to play after literally traveling internationally just because of the controller problem. Wild.
@NintenJoe
2 жыл бұрын
@@Pslamist he has stated multiple times that his controller genuinely just wasn't working at all
@baelorbreakspeartargaryen993
2 жыл бұрын
HAX$ 2024
@THEFEZFEZ
2 жыл бұрын
I still feel like the BOXX and other boxs should match what a GCC can do and not the other way around.
@ZeroDividesByYOU
2 жыл бұрын
I think I agree with this mindset, and I totally understand where you're coming from. But I think the problems with nerfing the Boxx to match a Gamecube controller doesn't make sense from a technical and competitive perspective. Like... the whole mindset of the game is essentially "let's make skill the greatest deciding factor in matches" right? So, and this might just be my gap in knowledge, but where are the people that are saying "let's keep some of these buggy or unfortunate uncontrollable (heh, puns) issues and then also intentionally nerf the controller that has the capability of performing these things consistently to be that buggy and random?" I thought the whole intent of these fixes is to make the game exactly as the developers would have done given unlimited time and attention to a competitive scene that has so thoroughly dissected this game that they know essentially everything about it. So I still am in favor of the intent behind your words. But I think you'd be happy or at least feel things were fair if we made the Boxx and the GCC do almost exactly the same things, WHILE also fixing the crap that just doesn't feel fair, because that's not really how it's INTENDED to work.
@Pslamist
2 жыл бұрын
While I get the sentiment, spend just a little time learning how to play B0XX on your keyboard (instructions in their Discord) before letting this feeling dictate your decision making. It will inform your understanding a lot.
@ZeroDividesByYOU
2 жыл бұрын
@@Pslamist sorry was this reply to me or the initial comment?
@Pslamist
2 жыл бұрын
@@ZeroDividesByYOU - Mostly the initial comment! Hax went so blindingly deep into detail in this enough times that I don't really address the issue anymore, other than telling people they should experience it first hand before discussing parity.
@ZeroDividesByYOU
2 жыл бұрын
@@Pslamist ah gotcha. I figured as much but thought I should confirm before responding. Appreciate your viewpoint. I feel like my comment comes from a really interesting perspective considering I don't play melee. I've only ever played the games once, forever ago before I even knew a competitive scene existed. I played about... 5 minutes. Had no clue what I was doing. And honestly I have no desire to learn to play. I just love the technical stuff. I love how the game works, and how cool the competitive scene is. I know a lot about the game, but moreso from watching content on it rather than playing it. This gives me the unique perspective that I think allows me to be really accepting of these changes that Hax is proposing without feeling beholden to tradition or some feeling that the game needs to stay vanilla. It just doesn't. Modern games get patched to fix stuff. Nintendo isn't gonna fix this stuff that is clearly unintentional for us
@edhc94
2 жыл бұрын
what a weird tone. so many little jabs at the UCF team
@jeanetteustin8311
2 жыл бұрын
Ever heard about an Arduino?
@darwingreenheart
2 жыл бұрын
how many likes before this becomes reality?
@InsertChannelHere
2 жыл бұрын
Z-jump should NOT be included
@TenThousandTacos
2 жыл бұрын
Please elaborate
@Pslamist
2 жыл бұрын
Care to try and defend that point?
@Pslamist
2 жыл бұрын
@@TenThousandTacos - I think we commented within seconds of each other. Lol
@TenThousandTacos
2 жыл бұрын
🤝
@matrixyst
2 жыл бұрын
it is already a thing that several top players do with GCC, the most prominent probably being IBDW, Leffen, and Llod. it's out there, might as well give everyone access to it rather than forcing them to buy goomwaves or do hardware modifications
@kohphran
2 жыл бұрын
Not a single word about Goomwave... This video is just a 14 min video for the Boxx . Yawn
@whjk83921
2 жыл бұрын
I agree with much of the content, but I still think the Box will be busted. An ASDI down button is the biggest issue, but also pivot up tilts are possible with that type of controller. No GCC can ever do that consistently.
@Pslamist
2 жыл бұрын
Can you please stop spreading misinformation? kzitem.info/news/bejne/26euzHiLpauLg6A kzitem.info/news/bejne/wp2MwGuGnHdomJg
@Pslamist
2 жыл бұрын
In short, you can do it. Acryte (Negative) has found consistent ways to do it and explains them. The word on it just needs to spread.
@hunky1013
2 жыл бұрын
mine can and its completely unmodified
@rockstar57HD
2 жыл бұрын
1. yes they can 2. the B0XX has specifically nerfed pivot up/down tilt so that its not busted 3. there are already ways to constantly be holding down on the c stick while using the face buttons on a GCC
@whjk83921
2 жыл бұрын
@@rockstar57HD I'm open to being proven wrong, but c-stick down during neutral doesn't seem practical baring shenanigans like floss tied around your toe and the c-stick.
@TenThousandTacos
2 жыл бұрын
It’s silly how much this was hyped up when it’s literally nothing but a 13 minute summary of already existing videos that proposes slight rebranding. Him writing off the failure of 1.03 catching on as a new standard as “exclusively a branding issue” shows he’s not actually engaging with the concerns people had about it, such as Nintendo legality concerns.
@Pslamist
2 жыл бұрын
1.03's UCF fixes falling under the umbrella of UCF2022 means that the fixes would have the same legality as current UCF, which IS used at majors, even sponsored by Nintendo. Stop this argument.
@recreationtime
2 жыл бұрын
"Legality concerns" is an obvious concern troll because there is no concern at all. Using it as your only example proves that it really is a perception issue, and that if Dan Salvato had implemented all these changes into a UCF update you would have been totally cool with it
@Pslamist
2 жыл бұрын
@@recreationtime - 🤝
@TenThousandTacos
2 жыл бұрын
Please don’t assume malice where there is none. People have legitimate concerns about 1.03. This is still 1.03
@Pslamist
2 жыл бұрын
@@TenThousandTacos - Okay, that's fine. What's a valid concern to be concerned about besides the now non-issue of Nintendo?
@matthewthompson8625
2 жыл бұрын
Hey hax baby I love you but can you not make a video hyping up another video which is just a recap of other videos
@steveharveywithouthismusta9323
2 жыл бұрын
i just ordered the frame1 so i'd prefer to play on UCF rather than UCF 2022. sorry hax
@Pslamist
2 жыл бұрын
Dude why? So you have an advantage over GCC users or what? It makes the game better for B0XX-style controllers as well, with the polling drift fix.
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