I'm at the very beginning of stage three. I was mostly house bound the past ten years but i'm finally able to get out a little bit more and be social and drive a bit. What helped me move on from stage 2 was that I finally completely recovered from anxiety which I had had since childhood. I finally overcame catastrophic thinking which was one of the hardest things.I have ever done in my life. I took a program called Smart Body Smart Mind that included somatic experiencing which helped me.become fully embodied and feeling safe and peaceful inside for the first time in my life. I developed an extremely loving inner voice.that I use to soothe my inner children who get scared very often. I practice gratitude every single morning and evening and I regularly visualize the life that I want to live and that keeps my hopes high. I still need to rest multiple times throughout the day butI can get away with doing more than I used to be able to.
@kim-ys2fs
Ай бұрын
thats irene lyon? iv watched her channel in the past, but cannot afford such programs XD
@Anne-Lene74
2 ай бұрын
I believe I am at stage 3. Working with the nervous system has been essential but I still struggle with too much activation.
@All-Lynn
2 ай бұрын
Thanks, this is very helpful! I ran into the going too fast to stage 2 and 3 and then collapse again. I still tend to do so. I thought I was ready to have an empty agenda to really rest up, and now again I see myself filling it up with stage 3 stuff because sometimes I do feel I have energy I want to do something with. So the key for me now is to may do stage 3 stuff but at a stage 2 tempo, Cancelling whenever I need rest. Not fill All the time up. Know the average resting time needed during a week. So making a plan and try to stick with it, with the help of experiential body worker and therapists, to install and effectively do the self regulating nerve system calming activities. I really loved the clarity of you explaining the stages. I really hope I did fullfil stage 1 properly. If not, I know that's the go to :-)
@suejoscelyne1398
2 ай бұрын
Thank you Alex, after quite a few years l finally understand what you mean when you say - “ what worked before suddenly stops working”. Realise l have been stuck in stage 2, although l thought l was doing everything correctly and did not think l was ‘ tired and wired’. In fact l was ‘hyper’ and concentrating on pacing too much, and ending up doing too much. Maybe you could do more on moving from stage 2 to 3.
@katalinmcewan
2 ай бұрын
I’m at a point where if I don’t work out at all I feel half decent. Then I work out when I feel good and I’m wiped for 3 days. 😞 I’m an ex athlete and have always loved working out and have had lots of interests and hobbies.
@All-Lynn
2 ай бұрын
Oh waw, I know what you go through... I had this for a very very long time and now because of reading your reaction, I can see it has changed here, by lowering my goals and expectations so that I won't be wiped out for too long now.
@lisadennys6045
2 ай бұрын
I've never stopped deeply enough or long enough because I'm always semi-functional. But I don't progress, either. Feeling quite stuck.
@carlrutherford8456
2 ай бұрын
whatever you do..dont push through, monitor your energy in workout and always finish on a energy level where you have reserves and not drained, otherwise your cycle of destruction will increase
@kim-ys2fs
Ай бұрын
what helped me was saving 'x' amount of energy everyday to invest/bank for harder days. I dont know what your workout looks like, but it seems unsustainable and that is what you need to aim for. Being female, i get wiped out b4 n during periods, so i used that challenging time to be my baseline, my worst days, not my best days. On my good days, i didnt do extra. ONLY once a month did i push a little further, waited a week and if no payback added it to my baseline, ready to drop it if needed. Workout implies weights, gym classes to me XD I focused on walking, qi gong and now i do yoga but it's 'lazy' yin yoga, vrs hot hatha, focusing more on holding postures correctly, gaining strength by the time in the posture vrs flowing from one to another, increasing heart rate, breathing short n fast XD. I find it helps pull stored stress from my body, but is also somewhat meditative, calming which is better for stabilising the autonomic nervous system
@deborahrainey4810
2 ай бұрын
I think I didn't have enough rest in stage 1. I go between the 3 stages I think , probably 2 mostly and then crash.
@kim-ys2fs
Ай бұрын
sounds like you need to find ur baseline -what can u do on your worst days and stick at that level. Only test yourself once a month or 2 months, cos life happens. Banking/saving/investing 20-50% of my energy on my good days for the future, to build up an energy reserve to speed up the energy intensive healing process
@deborahrainey4810
29 күн бұрын
Thankyou so much for your helpful reply Kim , it means alot & I will try what you suggest. Much appreciated.
@kim-ys2fs
28 күн бұрын
@@deborahrainey4810 no worries. ive always suffered the most during my monthly, so thats been helpful for me to keep track of things. I also eat as clean as i can handle (no cereal grains, raw dairy, no sugar, no caffine/stimulants) I aim for seasonal paleo eating and in winter i add in the keto macros to help any developing gut issues. I also didnt even realise posture was a stress feedback contributing thing until 6yrs into my journey. i started working on my posture for vanity reasons hehehe!! I do different types of meditative activities depending on where my body is at (nature walks, qi gong, yoga postures to stretch out any tension, or normal stationary types) However, a word of warning; in earlier stages, stress avoidance is key, there's a need to calm down ANS, reduce those boom-bust cycles, get rid of toxic people, learn boundries, saying no, adapt any contributing personality traits, rewire any stressful thinking patterns etc etc But there comes a point when avoidance is no longer helpful. That for me has been only recognised in last few days XD Ive been in final stage of recovery since winter 2018/19, albeit my foundations are stronger now My fear of stressors, my 'controlling' need to avoid them has ended up hampering future progress as i try to reintegrate and prepare myself for a return to 'normalcy' I would recommend you keep a note of that to read every 6months. Because my fear of stress upsetting ANS has been making any small stress into a large stress hehe! I was actually warned of it in 2015-ish i vaguely recall, but i forgot and i also forgot that what used to work in one stage can hamper the next stage XD Key lessons ive learnt -i have made posters for my walls -daily reminders which keep me on track and focused, no matter my mood Very best of luck to you that your healing journey is as fast as possible
@jessicanilsson5941
2 ай бұрын
Why i been worse , is it my trauma , have so much brainfog so it like i dreaming , paralyzed I been more triggerd more from my mother and all around me , for a few Weeks , a could do Something for 5 days and now i am in big crash
@kim-ys2fs
Ай бұрын
I handled this with avoidance and therapy. i discovered my family has alot of narcisstic traits, so a deep dive last winter into doctor ramani's channel, esp the 9 different types of narcs, was helpful for me. IVe learnt better boundries, saying no etc, learnt to fill my cup first n not be scared to let people down. Ive also had some long hard talks with my people n gotten them onboard. those that couldnt/toxic ive dropped from my life. It's left me with 5 regular people in my life, but im happier n more stable for it n ive gone from being non-verbal bedridden circa 2014-2016, to now seeing i will return to work. Im driving 30mins problem-free and i was studying daily for future career until i caused myself so much stress i got significant brainfog, my last remaining symptom. Avoidance, however helpful until this stage, is now hindering me .... I discovered yesterday that my fear of stress is driving my stress because i know that mecfs was caused by, is drivven by and is exacerbated by stressors I also have a bunch of ACEs (childhood trauma) which have caused me huge issues with self-sabotage, self-neglect, self-hate, being organised, being consistent, applying knowledge iv gained. I have found that when i have a huge insight like yesterday, making a poster for my walls is a good way for the new lesson to sink in n be applied consciously and unconsciously
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