I actually fake hearing damage so I can ignore some of the nonsense happening around me at work:)
@XRING
3 ай бұрын
🤣
@jaredandrews379
3 ай бұрын
Lol epic!
@SilencerShop
3 ай бұрын
Great video, Ray! There is a lot of awesome information here.
@XRING
3 ай бұрын
Thank you and thanks for the comment. 👍🏼
@patwalsh2868
9 күн бұрын
Hey Buddy, very informative video, thanks a lot for being thourough with each suppressor , I just bought the Rugged Alaskan 360 , should be any day now 💥💥🔫 thanks From Commy Ct.🇺🇸
@edhalson3154
3 ай бұрын
Ray, awesome information and well presented as always. I must say I am amazed you do not have WAY more subscribers with the quality of your channel and its content. You deserve to be in the millions! Respect! Hi from NZ
@Nate-zm6bd
2 ай бұрын
You did good explaining how sound works. As a 20 year audio engineer I get a kick out of all these suppressor manufacturer fudding their way thru how measuring the loudness of sound works. See see our suppressor is best because our DB meter says so.
@XRING
2 ай бұрын
Thanks Nate. I agree and thank you for the comment and for watching.
@paulmatthews2035
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video Ray, especially the section on hearing damage. I gave myself tinnitus 32 years ago via DIY work. Trust me it wrecks your life, and that’s before it develops into Menieres. I love my shooting I just don’t like loud bangs and that’s why I double up on ear protection and use a suppressor on an indoor range. This video should be compulsory viewing for every shooter. Keep up the good work!
@XRING
3 ай бұрын
Thank you Paul. I really wanted to take the time to put this content out there. I know its not exciting to listen to someone talking about hearing damage but I see so many people get a new can for their AR and shoot all day at the range without any earpro. Just wanted to help share the knowledge. Thank you for watching.
@paulmatthews2035
3 ай бұрын
@@XRING Thank you for your comments Ray much appreciated. As you now have a SPL meter and the required skill to use it may I suggest another variation on this video! I was on range some time ago and a friend of mine rocked up with a 300 Win Mag with a muzzle break next on me on the firing line, the concussive blast off the break blew me sideways! Would it be possible to do a comparative test which shows the sound level at your ear and at a shooters ear to your left or right with no muzzle device verses the sound level at you ear and the person next to you with a muzzle break?
@dennisdavid9588
2 ай бұрын
@@paulmatthews2035: Pew Science does exactly what your asking about if I recall correctly, they measure sound at the shooter’s ear and a couple other spots, it’s been a while since I’ve checked their page.
@Mrgunsngear
3 ай бұрын
🇺🇸
@ConventionRejected
3 ай бұрын
I competed in a night match at Clinton House this past weekend and noticed something interesting. We were shooting at targets between 100 and 200 yards for rifle, so in the white light division the gun smoke resulted in a significant challenge. There was a guy using the Huxwrx Ventum 5.56, and because of the flowthrough design he had the same issue with smoke as the people without a suppressor had. Namely, the gun smoke was illuminated by his weapon light and obscured his vision significantly because it was not trapped by the suppressor, as opposed to those of us using traditional cans. I am not sure if that was a specific issue related to the Ventum, his particular gun+can+ammo+light combination, or an issue with flow through cans in general. Just an interesting data point.
@davelpz3340
3 ай бұрын
I don’t think the Ventum 556 is out yet, it was a Ventum 762? Maybe it would make a difference if it was 556 specifically? No dog in the fight, just wondering.
@ConventionRejected
3 ай бұрын
@@davelpz3340 I may have been mistaken on the exact can, it was dark and I had been up for about 20 hours at that point after all.
@XRING
3 ай бұрын
Great comment. I have done a lot of night matches with tons of different suppressors. I too, noticed that the reduced backpressure cans definitely vent more "smoke" out of the front. Definitely more noticeable on a calm night.
@JNOSNOW
3 ай бұрын
It can be mitigated with different powders but that is hard for bulk range ammo. Cheaper ammo is a lot more gassey generally
@mve9924
3 ай бұрын
Sure. But he isnt getting as dumb from slurping lead.
@shaneclose792
3 ай бұрын
Great video! I love to see how much your channel has grown since I first started watching 6 or so years ago. I’m still an RC2 man. Eventually I’ll delve into the flow through stuff now that wait times are dramatically lower.
@XRING
3 ай бұрын
Thanks Shane! It has been fun doing the channel and I have learned a ton from it.
@glockparaastra
3 ай бұрын
So sad you guys have those crazy silencer laws. They save hearing, reduce recoil, and don't scare game as much when hunting.
@XRING
3 ай бұрын
Tell me about it!
@z3ntropy
2 ай бұрын
Your choice your life bro, but i dont think youtube videos are worth destroying your ears But i will appreciate the sacrifice anyway
@Brian-ry2ij
3 ай бұрын
Thank you sir for telling people that none of these cans are “hearing safe”. < 140 dB is not hearing safe. It is a total lie to advertise as such. Hearing safe long ago was < 120 dB, not even < 130 dB. Repeated exposure above 120 dB means you should wear ear protection. Period.
@Nate-zm6bd
2 ай бұрын
Hearing safe is an interesting conversation once you get into the weeds on it. Your ears can safely hear different levels of sound depending on what frequency it is. Lower frequencies can get louder w/o damaging and higher frequencies especially really high it doesnt really take much to do damage. Every time your ears ring, the frequency you hear is the frequency you damaged. And youll never hear that frequency the same again. You are literally changing your ears EQ and youll never hears things the same after the ring goes away. Its typically so incremental you wont notice. Until it adds up and a particular frequency range is gone. Such as highs in the 2k-6.3k range. Ironically thats the frequencies that most suppressors dont suppress. Suddenly you have a hard time understanding people speaking because thats the range where all the intelligibility in words lie. Turn on a speaking video, dump all those frequencies in the EQ and see how hard it is to understand people speaking. And not every persons resiliency to loud noise is the same. So to use a blanket DB number as the line where hearing damage starts isnt correct. Its really person to person. It involves individual resiliency, existing hearing damage and at what frequencies, current diet, blood pressure and health, and what frequencies your suppressor is actually not suppressing (frequencies you hear when you shoot). Still looking for the brown note suppressor. Gonna take some real science to get there on that one. 🤣😉
@1BXB
3 ай бұрын
Well done! So much information packed in. This must have taken a lot of time and effort to make this video. Thank you. Looking ahead, I hope you can add the Sig SLX and SLH cans to your testing. They have not received much coverage on social media. I am interested in learning more about their performance and design.
@GearWithGabe
2 ай бұрын
Wow that Cobalt can is pretty impressive for the size.
@dissgusting
19 күн бұрын
I've been debating on what to buy more than a year honestly. I shoot 7.62x39 but on an ar platform. It's just for hogs/varmint hunting. I have no real benchmark for performance, I have considered the Enticer L because it seems to have good performance for cost. But the ODB seems great. I just don't know how to justify more than double the cost. Sucks that all the places around me in TX only offer suppressors at indoor ranges lol.
@TheLogitech91
3 ай бұрын
Taking one for the team. Thank you.
@XRING
3 ай бұрын
LOL!. I really wanted to get the first hand experience with them without ear pro. Definitely makes a difference in my opinion of them.
@jamesdrakcip9276
23 күн бұрын
At 32:14, he says that Surefire recommends the closed tine flash hider for the best flash suppression. Correct me if Im wrong, but dont they recommend AGAINST using the closed tine because of the flash?
@angelone7202
14 күн бұрын
Ray, you spent the first part of this excellent presentation extolling the requirements to at all times wear hearing protection. And then 2/3 of the way through your presentation you actually exposed yourself to suppressors who's registry was above 140 db!! To me that negates the emphasis you placed on hearing protection and therefore made your message on hearing safety diluted. You also accelerated your hearing damage, especially in the left ear, trying to give us all a sense of the suppressor tone which for a smart guy was not worth the value of the information you conveyed to me. The term tone deaf describes a real auditory condition which anyone who suffers of it will tell you, is a crippling loss of one of our five precious senses which allow us to navigate effectively through the world on a daily basis.
@Gnolomweb
19 күн бұрын
27:00 what's with that light placement? looks terrrrible to shoot. some benefit Idk about?
@jrossnjax7
Ай бұрын
Excellent review test! I'm new in suppressors and trying to learn as much as I can. This was super helpful. I'm looking for cqb urban environment can and I'm currently looking at polonium k and witt machine mod1. After watching this video now I'm interested in the cobalt. 🤦♂️
@Mikolt1911
11 күн бұрын
The hearing loss he is speaking of is absolutely TRUE!!!
@Peaktac
3 ай бұрын
Love to see what you think of the CAT WB
@XRING
3 ай бұрын
Working on it as we speak. Need to get one in for review.
@brandonstorey99
3 ай бұрын
@@XRINGI’ll send you a CAT WB if you want to try one that I have as a demo. I’m an 07/02 in Clarksville, TN. (Longbow Arms). Hit me up if you want.
@smurfaka
25 күн бұрын
So the B&T is not possible to have on a muzzle break? Am i correct? Thanks!
@360Swurve
3 ай бұрын
Why take ear pro off for short barrel test ? Thanks for video but dang, it hurt me watching you do that to yourself
@TheRealStephenJ
2 ай бұрын
It’s kind of crazy how loud the bolt closing is… but also impressive how close (in general) some suppressors are able to get to that number.
@mikedebear
3 ай бұрын
Excellent breakdown of the cans, thank you for the insight. On a side note, your three offhand hits at 500... uh please excuse me but I need to go out and hit the range more often and stop making excuses haha.
@GqjdjdXmxjjnff
28 күн бұрын
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@Freethoughtpdcst
19 күн бұрын
Whats up with all these dumb chinese ads before the video
@enid681
2 ай бұрын
Like your videos. You provide great information in relation to what you are doing the videos about. Very much appreciated...
@OctoberPines
2 ай бұрын
Your comment about the left ear is dead on. I have massive hearing loss in my left ear. While taking the test, and doing very poorly, the ENT finally asked “are you a right handed shooter?” “I am” “I see that same result, a lot, from right handed shooters”
@thelastlatchkeykid8466
2 ай бұрын
Really appreciate the quick but relatively comprehensive background on dB measurement and hearing damage.
@olamorken
3 ай бұрын
Great info from you as always Ray!
@XRING
3 ай бұрын
Thank you olamorken and thanks for watching the channel.
@Boon20
3 ай бұрын
I agree with you on the left ear going deaf first. I may have been dealing with that for quite a few years.
@PorscheSpeedster-kz6nc
11 күн бұрын
Hi Ray and others. What electronic hearing protection do you use?
@XRING
11 күн бұрын
I use the Otto ears Noize Barriers the majority of the time. 👍🏼
@victorortega2718
5 күн бұрын
Outstanding video
@Michiganbreadboyz_bt8919
13 күн бұрын
Rc2 is better lmao
@Gnolomweb
19 күн бұрын
not CATs or Otter Creek?
@gaylordgredel9360
2 ай бұрын
Great unbiased information and video !!!
@jonhewitt3
3 ай бұрын
I also wear my hearing protection on my motorcycle, the wind noise on the helmet can be very loud to the point, I would return home, turn on the TV and was unable to hear it!
@XRING
3 ай бұрын
Oh man!! I know all about that. Wind noise in a helmet for a long ride can definitely damage the hearing.
@jonhewitt3
3 ай бұрын
@@XRING new bike day tomorrow, PX my Yamaha FZ6-S2 for a new Yamaha XSR900 😊
@XRING
3 ай бұрын
@@jonhewitt3 Awesome! I just picked up a pre-owned 1200GSA. Time to get to riding .
@peterschmidt2849
2 ай бұрын
🤙🏻🇺🇸😎
@ncsteeltoe
3 ай бұрын
This man sacrificing himself for us. 😁
@jameskiser7791
3 ай бұрын
I’d really like to know how long each silencer will last. I know people hate on SureFire but those cans will last basically forever.
@heavyweighttrading5692
28 күн бұрын
9:09 based
@RLoose9494
2 ай бұрын
Would love to get my own as I used one in Law Enforcement. No retired but I see this as gun registration by proxy. Any thoughts?
@TerminalM193
Ай бұрын
I pray that one day suppressors will no longer be regulated. It's insane that you have to pay a 200 tax plus carry around paperwork everywhere the suppressor goes....
@billydanzz
3 ай бұрын
Well sh!^t....if the sound of a bolt closing is damn near 130db and prolonged exposure can cause hearing damage, I need to run one of those meters when my wife is jaw-yappin' about whatever... Then maybe I can get OSHA to remove the sound nuisance from the premises.
@JDP-we9hk
Ай бұрын
Based in larger part on this review (and others), and also based on availability, I picked up the HuxWrx. Limited usage so far, but I'm pleased with the purchase.
@davidr7333
Ай бұрын
Thanks for a great video. Please, there is no need for you to go unprotected. We want to minimize damage to you.
@charlesmckinley29
2 ай бұрын
The epic drama of YOU FLAGGED ME (through the camera.). 🤣😂🤣 Some people are afraidof their own shadow.
@wisesage3289
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing this test.
@Its.Just.Sasquatch.
Ай бұрын
Just getting into the world of suppressors, ALOT of good info here. Thank you for the video, and you gained a subscriber.
@Joseph-f8j1f
2 ай бұрын
I use suppressors, wear a seat belt without fail, but I do not like wearing a helmet skiing or biking. That is my line in the sand.
@FDCNC
3 ай бұрын
Guys read PEW Science for actually MIL-STD testing and analysis of these suppressors. They have tested every suppressor in the video except the B&T and they have not posted the data for the Scrambler yet. Whatever the meter is saying just ignore it because it filters the the data and it doesn't sample the sound pressure fast enough so some suppressors might be louder or quieter than what's show above.
@boatscrypto5856
3 ай бұрын
Where is the Sig Flow Through suppressor? Can you compare the PTR and Sig Flow Through suppressors to the HUX?
@Josh-ly9mi
3 ай бұрын
How did you get an Inconel Scrambler? They only have titanium on their website. Asking because i am interested in buying one. I was looking at the CGS SCI-Six as well, but cant find much info on it. Have you tried this yet??
@varietasVeritas
2 ай бұрын
The bolt closing can cause hearing damage? Tell that to a construction worker. You may have say it louder.
@snakeman48
3 ай бұрын
Ray, I just came back from the Ohio Suppressor Shoot. Got to shoot some great cans. But, for me to consider a new purchase today for 5.56 or a 7.62 can, they need to be on the Hub design. I have over $1000.00 invested in SICO ASR mounts. I can unscrew the mount section of any of the SICO cans I have and screw on to any manufacture that utilize the Hub threading design. Like Dead Air. Surefire was there, but I bypassed them for that reason. Manufactures in attendance were; Surefire, SICO, Dead Air, Sig, Q, OCL, and Rugged. Wish there some of the cans in this video in attendance to try, like the B&T.
@12monkey57
3 ай бұрын
Look at the Hux Ventus
@XRING
3 ай бұрын
That awesome Snakeman! The Hub definitely makes life easier but at the cost of a little more weight. Definitely something worth considering when purchasing a new suppressor.
@cxerphax1
Күн бұрын
Isn’t the B&T HUB compatible?
@Joe5561000
2 ай бұрын
I have the Gate-Lok HUB adapter from Griffin Armament. (Works just like the B&T A2 adapter) It works great and allows me to move my Suppressor from gun to gun. It also saves money because A2 flash hiders are a lot cheaper than specific muzzle devices. The down sides are, you really need an alignment rod if you plan to use a Gate-Lok system. Because it doesn't lock onto the A2 flash hider really tightly, the suppressor moves around a lot, that made me nervous, and that's why I ordered a alignment rod, to make sure I wouldn't have a baffle strike. Glad I did too. Because it definitely would have struck the end cap. I then replaced all my crush washers with shims to help with the alignment and checked each one with an alignment rod. Second because it doesn't lock securely in place it leaks gas from the back of the suppressor. That doesn't really hurt anything but the flash hider gets really dirty.
@TerminalM193
Ай бұрын
Why is the first round fired through a suppressor so much louder than the 2nd & 3rd?
@magdumpmonday
3 ай бұрын
anyone want to buy my RC3? LOL I want the scrambler.
@XRING
3 ай бұрын
LOL. The Scrambler was definitely impressive as I had no real experience with them prior to shooting this video.
@magdumpmonday
3 ай бұрын
@@XRING I know man! I had no XP either. Oh well. Maybe I might get the scrambler.
@Masrafi
2 ай бұрын
great video. as an fyi to people, the peak db can be as little as a few ms in duration or less. this comparison is useful in the relative db of cans between each other, but i wouldnt use this video to determine the absolute db of each can and whether or not its 'hearing safe' because the db meter he's using can easily miss the peak impulse and peak db wave, which could be higher, and lead to hearing damage. as he mentioned before, you need an extremely expensive db meter to accurately gauge firearms sound levels.
@DrunkDrynasty
Ай бұрын
I’m debating between the 😢CobalB& , CAT MOB, or SBS
@flavortown3781
Ай бұрын
Honestly the thing im most excited about in the world of supressors right now is that b&t sells a surefire compatible hub adapter
@theexpressionbooth
2 ай бұрын
What's the weight on the inconel version of the cobalt? I can seem.to.find info on it
@sp-xx8ty
2 ай бұрын
Wow! Nice to see 10.3 vs 16 differences as well. Was surprised with the huxworks.
@theexpressionbooth
2 ай бұрын
I've been curious about cobalt can. I've only seen the tin version for sale anywhere.
@PinGorilla
3 ай бұрын
I don't see anything about an inconel version of the Scrambler anywheres. Where are you getting an inconel version from and what is the weight compared to the TI version?
@timjohns1915
3 ай бұрын
Ray, another informative video. What ear pro do you use? As many caliber and barrel lengths you shoot, I'd enjoy hearing about the ear pro you use in the videos and comps.
@hillpuller
3 ай бұрын
Great job with the comparisons. Very useful information. Subscribed!
@mavrikmavrik3032
2 ай бұрын
Great testing. It’s nice to get a db rating even if it’s not an absolute rating it gives you a comparison between them. The Cobalt Kinetics was pretty impressive. Something to look into.
@charlesmckinley29
2 ай бұрын
The constant ringing in my ears is at least partly due to 22 not making noise when I was a kid.
@jacobdeem8187
3 ай бұрын
Ray! Where ya been? Lol
@XRING
3 ай бұрын
I've have been all over the place! Glad to be back at it.
@swyang68
23 күн бұрын
Thanks, great video!
@KeterMalkuth
3 ай бұрын
I really appreciate you measuring the volume of simply dropping the bolt. A lot of people likely don't understand that just the action itself on an AR is loud enough to cause hearing damage. There is, unfortunately, no such thing as a hearing safe suppressed AR, even in .300 BLK, simply because the metal-on-metal of the bolt slamming forward is too loud for regular exposure.
@jgraham441
Ай бұрын
Just a heads up, you are using a warcomp on your mk18 which is skewing heavily your numbers on the mk18 test. Sound leaks heavily around the locking collar through the ports on the muzzle device. That is why every can you tested on the MK18 using the surefire muzzle device put out such bad numbers. Switch to a surefire 3prong or 4prong for suppression.
@flavortown3781
Ай бұрын
Sfmb is the better device for sound, the. 3 and 4 prongs are better for flash suppression
@Sheppard2030
3 ай бұрын
Excellent!
@ericbergfield6451
3 ай бұрын
I just picked up my first 5.56 HUXWORKS can two weeks ago
@sanmiguel2197
3 ай бұрын
🎉❤ Thanks for sharing
@XRING
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching Sanmiguel.
@chahahc
2 ай бұрын
Ahh objective testing. Wonderful.
@cmtwgrdk2748
2 ай бұрын
Hmm so a 16 inch without a can is as loud as a 10,3 with a can and a 10,3 inch with a can is about the same length as a 16 inch without a can ;o) a 16 inch gun will have way more power than a 10,3 inch with the same ammo,,,, then there is the tone,,i know for fact , that if you shoot riffles with only earplugs, you will get hearing damage, the sound hits the scull and is transferred to the inner ear ,, mostly the scull around the ear,, thats why muffs help a LOT MORE ,, the tone of a gun with a can is higher pitched, , and high pitch dosnt tranfer through the scull as easy as the base sound of a unsupresed riffle shoot,,
@TerminalM193
Ай бұрын
Why are foamies so much better rated and better reccomended over wearing muffs?
@backwardog1
2 ай бұрын
Have you ever tested with a blank round. In airgun testing, tin pellets can exceed 1200 fps. Lead and alloy pellets peak at 950-989 fps. The tin pellets crack and lead pellets thump. What is the dB for a blank?
@TerminalM193
Ай бұрын
That's actually a great question.... Since there's no bullet breaking the sound barrier there should be no crack whatsoever... A bit off topic but I've personally tested how loud a centerfire style primer is outside of a firearm, "both the bullet and all powder was removed from the brass casing and was struck with a hammer & nail". I was absolutely SHOCKED at how loud just the primer itself was. It was louder than your typical Chinese firecracker.
@FlacomanXD
2 ай бұрын
I feel like this dude used to roll with Paul Harrell
@jdthewelder8308
2 ай бұрын
Very helpful and thorough. Thank you...
@AvocadoAtrocity
Ай бұрын
I really appreciate you looking out for my hearing. Thanks for all of this great info and descriptions! 🫵😎🤝😎👍
@dennisdavid9588
2 ай бұрын
I wonder what the difference in sound is, if any, between using a brake vs a flash hider under the can? Hux offers both for direct thread of the 556k Flow.
@TerminalM193
Ай бұрын
Anywhere from 1.5db to 3.7db between a break and a simple flash hider. Brakes "for the most part" create a more uniform gas seal.
@plb2455
2 ай бұрын
Which would you say sounded better/more comfortable to your ear? The Huxwrx or the B&T SRBS?
@XRING
2 ай бұрын
For the platforms tested in this video my ears liked the Huxwrx. 👍🏼
@ANDY_LAF
2 ай бұрын
Hey Ray, what device were you using to measure the decibels? I plan on getting one!
@XRING
2 ай бұрын
That’s a Larson Davis unit. If you can find an old analog B&K those actually meet the mil-std they are really old though and parts can be difficult to obtain.
@TheFlea1987
3 ай бұрын
That B&T would look nice on my 6ARC. Maybe I’ll break down and buy one.
@JenkinsStevenD
2 ай бұрын
Probably have to go with the 7.62 version then. I don't see anywhere on their page where it says the 5.56 version can handle 6mm arc. I bought an OCL polonium intentionally for that flexibility so I look for it without having to go up to a 30 cal with overbore.
@triphammer1203
3 ай бұрын
Missing a specter CAT 😢
@stingers96
3 ай бұрын
because it would not be fair.
@markgumbayan634
3 ай бұрын
@@stingers96 💀
@triphammer1203
3 ай бұрын
@@stingers96you ain’t wrong
@XRING
3 ай бұрын
I need to get my hands on one of those as well. I have heard good things about them.
@stingers96
3 ай бұрын
@@XRING CAT is the truth
@rob409BOI
Ай бұрын
Can we get a velos review
@dylanjackson6685
Ай бұрын
I dig the scrambler
@BOHEMIANHUNTINGCLUB
3 ай бұрын
👍👍
@jim99west46
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for this reporting!
@krisderald
2 ай бұрын
Great job 💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯🔥
@briansmith6911
2 ай бұрын
good stuff thanks so much!
@grunt1807
2 ай бұрын
It's hard to believe closing the bolt was that loud, I'm sure it would have been quieter if you had chambered a round.
@XRING
2 ай бұрын
For sure it is.
@TerminalM193
Ай бұрын
I know right! I knew it was loud with doing it thousands of times over the years but I had no idea closing the bolt was THAT loud!
@shawnbrockman9729
2 ай бұрын
Most of those tested will shine on the shorter barrel rifles.
@TerminalM193
Ай бұрын
Did you watch the entire video?!? All of these suffered GREATLY when taken from 16" to 10" rifle....
@camron1501
2 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@Eddycarm
3 ай бұрын
very impressed with the huxwrx and cobalt
@XRING
3 ай бұрын
Same here! Going to try to get one of the CAT's in as well.
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