Yo everyone! Use the VST version, not the VST3 version of SPAN. VST3 has only 2 channels in the input routing, not 8 like in this vid, and the side chain option doesn't come up in the Ableton device window of span. Would rather be making beats, not trouble shooting. This is my good deed of the day, now i can go back to being a jerk and start squishing ants ;) hahah.
@dilbydj
9 ай бұрын
Super annoying right?! I wish Ableton would add that sidechain option to VST3 devices.
@mixingmadesimple
9 ай бұрын
THANK YOU
@mattgolsen5895
9 ай бұрын
Found this after I found out SPAN plus (also free) has import and export features which accomplish the same. 😅
@fabianadastra
8 ай бұрын
Hi! I tried installing Span as Vst by only downloading this option when installing but it did not show at all on Live. Any tips on how to make the sidechain option work ? thanks update!* I fixed by saving the installed span folders on the same folder where Live is looking for vsts and problem solved!
@riccardozinesi8926
3 ай бұрын
@@fabianadastra it's work?
@ahucklesby1
2 жыл бұрын
this is such an underrated channel man, appreciate everything you've put out
@dilbydj
Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate, much appreciated!
@ozan2easy780
Жыл бұрын
absolutely agree with you
@arthaum7937
Жыл бұрын
The awesome thing is that this doesn't age! Just used this again to set up SPAN for reference after I got a new pc. Thanks Dilby!
@dilbydj
Жыл бұрын
Awesome mate
@KrankTacular
2 жыл бұрын
Lovely to hear another Kiwi voice in the production tutorial world. cheers for the hints, I had no Idea you could use Span that way. Saves me a bunch of money buying Reference 2 for the same purpose.
@rizlamusic
6 ай бұрын
You’re always super informative man 🙏🏻
@dannyfrederixmusic3312
3 жыл бұрын
Top Video, I use reference to do this normally, I didn't realise you could use Span like you have, that plugin just keeps getting better. I'll be sure to implement this into my workflow.
@designzonebeats
9 ай бұрын
This was great thanks. I like hearing trips from people who are actually releasing music.
@ALifeTheKidd
3 жыл бұрын
this is a FIRE CHANNEL
@xmazzix
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you once again Dilby!
@buddahcrib
3 жыл бұрын
Interesting and well produced video. Right on Bruder!
@RDH.85
9 ай бұрын
Brilliant tips for referencing, especially on the Span settings most helpful part of the vid to see the visuals after the fact.
@Nicolas-rx8gc
2 жыл бұрын
green tea jajajaj you are the best DILBY
@zackatreides8025
Жыл бұрын
Span has become a good fellow now! Thank you
@LexaJuneD
2 жыл бұрын
Definitely some good tips in here, thank you!
@bragehofgaard8914
3 жыл бұрын
This is soo good content!🔥🔥🔥
@LazayLada
Ай бұрын
Great video!!!
@oramics
Жыл бұрын
Content is always great man. Definitely going to become a patreon member
@HumanMotives
2 ай бұрын
Fantastisc video, appeciate it 🤘
@anthonyzmoda3106
10 ай бұрын
This is so extremely critical!!
@zenoaltea7512
3 жыл бұрын
You're amazing sir, thank you for sharing all of this knowledge!
@alexjofer
5 ай бұрын
Congrats nice tut! Keep coming
@abelmartinezdj
3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this tutorial. Would be great a tutorial about why you do the kind of busses you do 🙌🏻
@dilbydj
3 жыл бұрын
All explained here bro kzitem.info/news/bejne/mWyp02WvgImlh6A
@mrgibonskc
Жыл бұрын
cool idea, I didn't know about this useful settings in span plugin:) thanks a lot!
@sebastianzborowski9499
6 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot ! 🎉🎉🎉
@pcon5957
3 жыл бұрын
Another great video, this is such useful information thanks
@p.b2505
3 жыл бұрын
Nice one man big thanks !! 👍👍
@ant-ohh
11 ай бұрын
Thank you so much...this is so helpful.
@dilbydj
11 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@vecstercreatives346
2 жыл бұрын
Thanx a lot for this video!!!
@Spek7
8 ай бұрын
My reference track was "Dilby - No more love" before watching this video. (Talk about weird coincidence)
@BrysonPrice
8 ай бұрын
13:35 👌🏼
@JurassicTrance
Жыл бұрын
Awesome content mate. Very well presented and super helpful. liked + subbed. Cheers
@lifelesun
2 жыл бұрын
Extremely good video.
@dilbydj
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate ✌️
@philippdoublep5041
Жыл бұрын
Thank you, it's great!!
@alterego161
2 жыл бұрын
superb! thanks for this one. subscribed :)
@dilbydj
2 жыл бұрын
Nice one ✌️
@RobeFlax
Жыл бұрын
Nice 1, thank you
@dilbydj
Жыл бұрын
No problem 👍
@alexcoastmusic
3 жыл бұрын
Excelente info, gracias! :)
@dilbydj
3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome bro ✌️
@victorarrudadj
3 жыл бұрын
Nice video!
@jasmineperez5695
3 жыл бұрын
Impressive Video 💗
@dilbydj
3 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks Jasmine 👏
@tunerterror
4 ай бұрын
il never can get to -8 lufs, how i achieve that. always max 9,5 lufs. and my track in span stays frozen while the ref track is moving ? thanks for your help man
@user-xh2jl8zp6j
11 ай бұрын
Thank you!!
@mauricegee77
6 ай бұрын
any advice on how to fix low energy in the low-mid & mid range compared to the reference track?
@cameronthornber5103
5 ай бұрын
can anyone help on how to do this in FL Studio. struggling to do the sidechain part so that it shows master and ref at same time. cheers
@mookymookymooo
Жыл бұрын
this is dope as, churr
@jamalyannicguzmansierra7996
3 жыл бұрын
He Dilby! THX for sharing your Content Would be very nice if you can share a full Mixdown Tutorial. And how do you add some nice side signal to your overall mix? in which combination/variation do you use EQ's and Compressors? first compression and than EQ or in the opposite way? Have a nice weekend!
@dilbydj
3 жыл бұрын
Will have a think about how I can incorporate some of this into a video.
@brianbiggs1637
4 ай бұрын
does anyone know why when you lower the track volume (highlighted light blue button in ableton) the Loudness Meter LUFS does not change? I'll lower the reference track's volume so low I can't even hear it anymore but the Loudness Meter stays the same.
@dilbydj
4 ай бұрын
That volume fader is after the track contents. To do what you are trying to do you should lower the clip gain of the audio file or put a utility before the loudness meter. But, why would you want to do that? What are you trying to compare there?
@brianbiggs1637
4 ай бұрын
@@dilbydj thanks for getting back! I'm trying to match the volume of the reference track by ear and visually confirming with youlean to my track. My confusion is why the volume fader is brought down -2db for the reference if it has no affect on Youlean loudness meter? Seems like lowers volume for my ears, but then creates a misrepresentation in youlean because the -2b reduction is not registered. Sorry mate I'm sure this is simple and I'm missing something.
@GalaxiaDeFavio
7 ай бұрын
How to get the tracks thought?
@Juline1221
Жыл бұрын
Make sure y'all save it as a present too so u don't gotta do all everytime 🙂 🙃
@SoneczKnote
Жыл бұрын
Does a high crest factor equal to a loud mix?
@dilbydj
Жыл бұрын
I would recommend using a loudness meter to determine that. There is a descent free one from Youlean Audio
@SoneczKnote
Жыл бұрын
@@dilbydj gotcha 👌
@paulwelding
8 ай бұрын
If you have Sonarworks on your master bus, does routing the reference tracks to ext out bypass the correction?
@dilbydj
8 ай бұрын
Put Sonarworks last and you will be fine. I do it this way as a sonarworks user.
@Rhekluse
2 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on 'Correlation'? I know its best to stay in-phase (+ correlation) but how strict are you with keeping everything completely in-phase according to the meter, especially with synths & fx (reverbs & delays)?
@dilbydj
2 жыл бұрын
It can be tricky, as some of these stereo effects sound so nice but really screw up your phase correlation. Stereo Savage is particularly bad in this regard. But, in the end my approach tends to be more practical than theoretical (which is how I like to produce). I hit the mono button on my interface and if it still sounds good amd I can hear everything then it works for me.
@fellasboyz1272
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t have the same routing view as yours. Is it maybe yours is span plus, the paid version? i don’t have the second analyser spectrum option.
@dilbydj
2 жыл бұрын
Mine is the free version
@brianhamiltonsf
Жыл бұрын
Metric ab sometimes goes on sale, it is currently only $29
@dilbydj
Жыл бұрын
Nice one 👍
@tunerterror
Жыл бұрын
jup its best
@ShivasInSingularity
Жыл бұрын
The actual Span is on the master channel right? When you choose the routing how do you see that input 3 and 4 represent the reference track? My Span has letters instead and when I choose C and D I get the signal into Span but I don’t understand how to know that the reference track is on C and D?
@vinylmastersgr1036
3 ай бұрын
I have tried but sometimes reduces the volume in one song.
@dilbydj
3 ай бұрын
See my other comment
@LazayLada
Ай бұрын
I felt your pain at 19:00 lol 😂 fucking tinkering
@Justin-pd4vb
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Dilby thanks for sharing this! Really helpful. With your LUFS levels being so similar straight away, just wanted to ask if you had any mastering chain or other processing on your master bus at this stage? Cheers
@dilbydj
3 жыл бұрын
Good question bro. I just use a limiter to bring up the loudness to a comparative level. My actual mastering chain would have more, but if I'm just loudness matching for comparison I do it quickly using only a limiter
@vinylmastersgr1036
3 ай бұрын
I have tried it but I think it makes something like reduce the volume for one second around 5-6 times in a song, I can't understand why.
@dilbydj
3 ай бұрын
It sounds like you are using Span Plus in demo mode.
@vinylmastersgr1036
3 ай бұрын
@@dilbydj No one friend of mine has bought it. But the reason of reduction is that I used it for balancing a full mastered song from vinyl!, it doesn't shut up the volume for second. Just in some parts of the song it's some reduction of volume. Maybe all these plugins are not for vinyl restoration, some friends who are musicians this have told me. They are for separate stems kick, bass, vocals, guitar etc. They have told me that by using these plugins, many basic frequencies are removed, even when de-crackling the vinyls in a soft way.
@dilbydj
3 ай бұрын
But span is just a spectrum analyser. It doesn't do anything to the sound.
@vinylmastersgr1036
3 ай бұрын
@@dilbydj ok thanks!thought by putting a reference track changes something
@BingBoing652
Жыл бұрын
Sort of random but what was that circle chart behind you in the beginning of the video?
@dilbydj
Жыл бұрын
It's based on a music theory called the circle of fifths. This version is from Mixed In Key and is called the Camelot Wheel.
@axdx182
2 жыл бұрын
Great tutorial! Where do you download reference tracks? Are you using .wav files?
@dilbydj
2 жыл бұрын
Buy them from Beatport, Traxsource, Bandcamp, etc. Support the artists who's work you admire. WAV or AIFF is better.
@kuskimusic
3 жыл бұрын
why don't I have the sidechain option on SPAN when i click the triangle? does anyone know how to get it to show?
@edhood
3 жыл бұрын
I noticed the same when using the vst3 version - but with the vst2 the sidechain option is there.
@jvstcass
2 жыл бұрын
@@edhood Thanks.
@dilbydj
2 жыл бұрын
It's not available in older versions of Ableton. Could be your using an older version. Or make sure to use the vst2 version of Span
@aethamusic
Жыл бұрын
@@dilbydj Had the same problem - definitely have to use the VST2 version for sidechain options to appear! Thanks man!
@paenic-
Жыл бұрын
@@aethamusic Do you have a link maybe where I can find the VST2 Version for mac? ....I everywhere just find the VST or the VST3
@neovincibeats
Жыл бұрын
How do u route refeence track into SPAN
@dilbydj
Жыл бұрын
I show you in the video
@neovincibeats
Жыл бұрын
@@dilbydj yes it's different for reason studios you have to route the reference track into the back of the plug in but thanks
@dilbydj
Жыл бұрын
@@neovincibeats Ah, ok. I hope you figure it out. I have no idea. FYI, It would have been much clearer what you wanted to know if you mentioned Reason Studio in your question.
@samuelsonder5712
Жыл бұрын
Did you mix into a master chain before doing this?
@priyanshupriyadarshi12
Жыл бұрын
i see you're gating the vocals here but the noise level is way too high and slightly distracting
@aslan0697
Жыл бұрын
Dilby just i dont understand something that true peak is going to peak both of them so that lufs about make dynamic our track and is that make for gain staging? So like preparing gaing staging ? My mind confused about that true peak and lufs.
@aslan0697
Жыл бұрын
İf we turn up db master channel our then if we dont make mix about like kick bass mix then that mad frequancys are they gives damage for the wrong lufs ?
@dilbydj
Жыл бұрын
Hey mate, I am really struggling to understand your question. But in vey simple terms, peak volume is the volume of the loudest point of the track. If ignores dynamics and only tells you the value of the highest peak. LUFS is measuring the loudness of the track over time, a less dynamic track with a high peak volume will have a lower LUFS which means it is louder. True Peak is used to explain something that happens during audio conversion (especially when encoding mp3s) where the output of the file goes above 0db even though the peak of the source file was not louder than 0db. The increase is a byproduct of the conversion process. I know this, but I may not be explaining it in the most articulate way. I would suggest you try to find something that explains it in your native language. It may be much easier to get an understanding.
@aslan0697
Жыл бұрын
@@dilbydj Yes ı know them your all say it :) As ı turkish then its really hard a find deep nice things. actually my english not enough for explain my counfused mind. so ı tryed then thanks a lot your feedback. :)
@aslan0697
Жыл бұрын
also ı get everything now :) ı've just watched your diffrend video 3 AMAZING MIXING HACKS for faster and easier mixdowns! then in the span your reference track show more lows and you said then when ı make mixing and balance with kick and bass wiht eq's comp's or something then my low side gonna be match. so ı understand everything now :) so what i mean. i tried asking that problem
@Bor0d1n.
2 жыл бұрын
👏
@juna8796
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the vid, but can you explain how to setup the side chain with Span & ref tracks in Logic pro? As usual Logic makes a meal out of it...
@dilbydj
Жыл бұрын
Nope, I can't mate
@juna8796
Жыл бұрын
@@dilbydj No worries. I asked Aleksy from voxengo for advice and he says its not even possible without the paid version? Not sure about that whether they took the feature away- i have version 3 (free version) and dont see the same options as you in the video when routing.
@dilbydj
Жыл бұрын
@@juna8796 no idea mate. I have the free version. Would be kind of dumb if they made if worse on and update 😂. I don't use Logic and never have so I can't offer any advice on it .
@juna8796
Жыл бұрын
@@dilbydj No sweat mate, thanks for the reply. I managed to figure out a work around :)
@MrSimpotic
7 ай бұрын
Your Hi-freq sound is higher than 20K - Why didn't you show what you can see there on EQ? This is not very good and understandable - why don't you look there - this is not clear, not obvious. Where do you have the red line on the right on EQ?
@dilbydj
7 ай бұрын
I really don't understand what you're asking mate.
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