This is an outstanding interview! I played during the same timeframe. This is very nostalgic for me. Thooorin asked all the right questions... Same ones I would have asked him, especially the Clan9 exhibition in Sweden. In the US, none of that background info was ever really made public. We all thought Deathrow got spanked fair and square. I miss NQ so much. ~QQ-Bludgener, D-Ogmios
@Cemix10
9 жыл бұрын
Even though i dont know shit about Quake or Dota 2, i am liking these interviews, cause you get some perspective about e-sports. Plus hearing Thorin's voice makes me happy ^.^
@Schnupfndrache7
9 жыл бұрын
when they talked about a possible comeback of competative Quake i got goosebumps ^^
@markbrock8662
Жыл бұрын
I remember playing every evening after work back in that day. Mostly the same group of peeps on one server. I remember someone coming on one night and just destroying all the regulars. Supposedly it was Thresh, (when I asked). It was quite amazing to see that skill level back then.
@matthewv789
4 жыл бұрын
B2 (Patrick Li) told me the same thing at the time, that nobody ever beat Thresh in practice. And B2 was darn good himself. I think in PGL season 1 he picked dm1 since it was the only map they basically never played on, where he wasn’t positive Thresh would win. (It made no difference.)
@SolaticSyot
9 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, good job Thorin, this was an awesome interview, and with someone completely unexpected.
@C_R_Plays
9 жыл бұрын
What an interesting guy. Very articulate. A pleasure to listen.
@BodhiGeraci
9 жыл бұрын
+freezman13 He;s a CEO, a successful businessman, obviously.
@seti111
7 жыл бұрын
This was my gaming era, Wolfenstein, Doom, Quake 1 and 2 and a tipping point. Dennis "Thresh" Fong had the attitude and professionalism that nearly took hold in gaming community. But largely by the Quake lll release the online gaming community had collapsed into a chaos of poor attitudes and equally poor behavior. And certainly without question holds true today. With the retirement and departure of Thresh was the departure of a quality and high standard of gamer....
@docreverb
9 жыл бұрын
I was expecting him to be more green, but this is cool too.
@delatroy
9 жыл бұрын
:D
@willwatson3343
9 жыл бұрын
one of the greatest supports of all time
@ggdeption
9 жыл бұрын
1:21:08 The lineage of Thresh disciplines in Quake dueling - Fucking epic
@NorthHollywood
8 жыл бұрын
I wonder how he feels about Quake Champions
@NorthHollywood
8 жыл бұрын
le4therf4ce Thanks man!
@placeholdername3206
5 жыл бұрын
This dude was literally the boogieman in the Quake World scene. Everyone had heard of "Thresh", no matter what country you were playing from. Few was good enough to have played him. He might as well have been that Legend27 meme.
@mesicek7
2 жыл бұрын
Remember reading article about this guy in PC Gamer when he won the Ferrari as a grand prize - Carmack's Ferrari.
@Mybrander
9 жыл бұрын
I don't know if it's possible, but if you could do one of these interviews with fatal1ty, that would be amazing.
@nexusdreams1148
5 жыл бұрын
Omg!! It’s Thresh!!! The freakin legend. I remember when he won john carmack’s ferrari!!!!
@darcyfox2575
9 жыл бұрын
This was actually a great interview, interesting to gain an insight on some older esports
@imDezrt
8 жыл бұрын
That WSJ anecdote is crazy.
@ProductionB1
4 жыл бұрын
I quickly switched from Q2 standard deathmatch to Q2 WOD 7.51 as it was quicker paced and had wider weapon selections. I used speedrockets, grenade launcher and the railgun primarily, which I would win most matches with so I agree with Thresh these were core weapons.
@keokio7
8 жыл бұрын
If nerds had an OG, this guy would be it.. he's clan Death Row lol were pretty much undefeated
@ultra1obscene
5 жыл бұрын
apart from when they came up against EU opposition and got destroyed and apart from when he chickened out going to TGI to prove himself vs EU players in duel, no OG!
@Anybanks
8 жыл бұрын
I don't play any other esports games than the one I currently play, but if I had to try a new one, quake seems like the most fun
@therealshug
Жыл бұрын
4:30 dude, I played with a trackball until 2014, something like 17 years of gaming on it... you could use that CPL mouse fix that was popular everywhere in the early 00's to force the trackball from 125mhz polling rate to 500mhz, that was really the best thing you could do, made a huge difference. This doesn't work anymore on newer versions of windows afaik. Tracking aim is extremely hard on trackball, you have to put your middle three fingers on the ball to try and guide it smoothly. Flicks are easy. No desk space + mouse pad are great pros obviously. Mouse is better, but that's largely because no pro gamer has made a gaming trackball yet, that was always my dream lol...
@nm3724
9 жыл бұрын
Just pumpin out the reflection interviews.
@TheDeathWatcher
9 жыл бұрын
Historian indeed! This was really interesting, thanks for the interview.
@ubermikesocal
7 жыл бұрын
Great interview. I was around for the original HEAT MPlayer and PGL days of Quake2 and I can clearly recall playing Makaveli Immortal and the K9 guys. I beat a few but lost to Makaveli and Immortal routinely. Anyone who played 1on1 Q2 at The Jade Garden server would remember the name MeanBastard. I was the original troll of Q2 and quite hated but in retrospective I was a teenage asshole haha and was banned constantly in K9s IRC and Jade Garden. Good times.
@euphoric-6177
9 жыл бұрын
Really interesting interview. I didn't know who the inventor of Xfire was but I am impressed. Xfire was great back in the day. I remember when Steam came out and everyone hated it because we could use Xfire and have control of our games. Pity xfire has pretty much failed due to Steam but he looks like he's still doing very well. Great guy and very smart indeed.
@euphoric-6177
9 жыл бұрын
James Jiggins Makes sense tbh lol thats what usually happens. It was good during the cod4 era though. Quality comms tool.
@yootoobnewbie
9 жыл бұрын
The LEGEND!
@busdriver0000
9 жыл бұрын
2:18 "when I fart"
@dylanbeazley6739
9 жыл бұрын
+Busdriverx LOLOL so funny! good spot there.
@MarylandDigger
8 жыл бұрын
Anybody in here used to play Netquake in the 90's at the time Thresh was playing? My name was QQ-Bludgener and D-Ogmios. I ran the Quad Quakers clan and was in Clan D. Just wanted to see if I know anyone. It was a pretty small community, so odds are we probably knew each other. I played on Euro servers quite a bit. I was featured in EA Online and Quake Terminus.
@nemesis82
7 жыл бұрын
Maryland Digger played quite a bit.. Nemesis was my handle
@mrrezzy
9 жыл бұрын
great interview
@sonnyhartney
9 жыл бұрын
God tier description
@zacharyyan4898
9 жыл бұрын
18:45 possible reason for why ZeRo isn't going to Paragon LA?
@hwanize
9 жыл бұрын
Quake 2 best fps game ever made.
@alexwun8536
9 жыл бұрын
QUAKE FTW!!!
@BlooDh3xx
9 жыл бұрын
Hmm Thresh looks different from what i remember him
@snarkyboojum
9 жыл бұрын
+BlooDh3xx He's definitely lost weight (I think) :P
@killingbillGaming
9 жыл бұрын
Why do you miss so many hooks?
@seansurfn2
4 жыл бұрын
lol hi thresh its me THRASHER.. LOL i only got 3rd place behind that bfg hog jarm :p how ya been?
@KaRmyVids
9 жыл бұрын
Pretty interesting.
@busdriver0000
9 жыл бұрын
the god))
@qweqwe2058
9 жыл бұрын
The 90s of quake, very early days, not many players, not that much money then, didn't hang around for long then fucked off around the time quake3 came out. Pretty arrogant guy who called it a day the moment he knew he wasn't going to dominate anymore.
@ellsin8586
9 жыл бұрын
literally expected league, and I don't even play the game
@kringkingen
9 жыл бұрын
Blue creamed his ass in Q2
@Khorney
9 жыл бұрын
+kringkingen No he didn't because they never played. Makaveli played blue and I think beat blue 2-1 in games. Makaveli mopped the floor with the EDL players constantly and beat europe's best (shub) 3-0 in games. Makaveli has said several times that Thresh was way ahead of him.
@le4therf4ce
5 жыл бұрын
Smartest FPS player of all time...because he made excuses to retire during the time Fatal1ty was on the rise. He definitely has to be glad that he got out before running into Cooller, Cypher, or Rapha. Thresh played too much online under aliases. So he had to have got his ass kicked by some of the big dogs at the time that made him realize people passed him in everything. All that negative crap said, he paved the way for FPS style for what it is today.
@srintertainment669
9 жыл бұрын
1:31:18 rofl
@rsvidder101
9 жыл бұрын
thats not thresh.............
@yellowkindbud
9 жыл бұрын
He's completely full of shit about the Red Annihilation tourney. Only people in the States could participate and there is no way in hell all the best players wound up in the tournament (pookie? who he played for to get there in the first place because she wasn't any good at all... well maybe for a girl.. anyway) . Also the qualifiers were HPB and LPB in a FFA setting with no distinction between connections. Meaning literally no HPBs wound up in the tourney despite being the majority of the population and containing some incredible players. It was heavily skewed.
@fmaruchan
9 жыл бұрын
+yellowkindbud Definately you're right, This was 1996-1997 where only 10% of the Quake players had a good broadband connection. Obviously in the Netquake days if you had 50 ping against people playing 300+ ping, literally you had a super huge advantage.
@AR7271
8 жыл бұрын
Forget internet connections not everyone was lucky enough to own a state of the art computer. Back then I was playing on a Pentium 75 Mhz machine but with a cable modem. So my ping was less than 100 ms but my frame rate was less than 30 LOL! Getting a Pentium II 450 Mhz machine was eye opening. Quake at 60 frames per second!
@AR7271
8 жыл бұрын
Still...no excuses. I can't be in the NFL because I am not a huge dude and not all of us can have competitive advantages like that.
@MisterMaggot
7 жыл бұрын
salty third worlder buttmad his toaster wasn't good enough to compete with other players
@jebodle8331
7 жыл бұрын
Mostly correct. The first part of the competition was FFA on Mplay. If I remember right it might have been up to 16 people in a match. I know it was at least 8. Chaotic non-strategic play to say the least. The only strategy was how to optimally play matches and game the scoring system. Mplay's service was awful even for LPBs. So no, definitely wasn't all the best players. Machiavelli is one person I think was stuck on an HPB connection at the time and missed out that was probably good enough to make it. That said, it did go on to 1v1 matches after 256 if I remember right. Might have been 128. And I was HPB during the FFA stage and made it to the 1v1 portion. And I wasn't among the top 20 or even 50 players in the country even with an LPB connection when I went on campus. So even the best HPB players got a shot. And the final 8 of Thresh, Entropy, B2, Hijinks, Kiljoy, Reptile, Gollum, and Unholy weren't a surprise. All were well known in the Quake community as among the best players at the time. And Thresh was widely considered the best Quake player in the country even before the tournament and proved it, so while there were all kinds of complaints about the format and Mplay service, there wasn't any controversy over the finals and the winner.
@fmaruchan
9 жыл бұрын
Thresh is lying because bunny hopping wasn't main stream until mid 1998 after this tournament Deathrow vs Clan 9. The demo's are out there and clan 9 wasn't bunny hopping.
@johnx18
9 жыл бұрын
+Frank Mar He never said they were bunny hopping. It was a comparison, the jumps and movements they were doing would be similar to seeing bunny hopping in CS for the first time (when you still could bhop).
@MarylandDigger
8 жыл бұрын
wth are you talking about. He was talking about CS.
@traum640
4 жыл бұрын
This guy was almost like a mythic figure back in the days
@Anhjje
9 жыл бұрын
Q U A K E
@Epicus147
9 жыл бұрын
+Anhjje COOLLER
@emperedor1
9 жыл бұрын
That was one of the most interesting Reflections/Grilled interviews i have seen. Thank you for covering games and times that not many people know or care about.
@TrzKeepo
9 жыл бұрын
I didn't know thresh was asian
@baker3423
9 жыл бұрын
Can you put (CS:GO) (QUAKE) (LOL) in title please sir
@dougryan485
6 жыл бұрын
I was really big into Quake 2 at the same time Thresh was doing his thing - It was such a pleasure to see such raw talent combined with dogged work. You are a rock star to me, buddy! - Cheers, qbfury
@michaelhumphreys4270
9 жыл бұрын
best reflections I have watched. playing q2 back in 1996, this guy was like a gaming god! some people below have called arrogance, but you have to realise how ahead of the curve he was in his time. When you are that good you earn the right to be a little arrogant!
@MarylandDigger
8 жыл бұрын
Yep. Couldn't have said it better.
@florintanase9348
4 жыл бұрын
I read about this guy in a magazine in the 90ties...95 or 96 if I remember right...in ROMANIA....so he must have been realy famous...
@jankowalski1501
3 жыл бұрын
player A: 30 lg Player B: 40 lg HUGE difference of skill, like night and day. Lets say they fight 300 HP both. Player B wins by 30 hp. It's pretty much 1 small health bubble difference. That's why in quake best aimers don;t win. It's stupid, but items and controll is simply overpowered. Anyway, nice interview!
@TWITCH772
9 жыл бұрын
I think its time for reflections with toxjq =)
@Q3Lithium
9 жыл бұрын
1:21:08 - mind blown, rapha = thresh 2.0
@jlysvoll
9 жыл бұрын
that was cool.
@revolutionaries007
7 жыл бұрын
i UNDerTAND BACK WHEN U WROTE THIS U THOUGHT MAYBE RAPHA IS BETTER THAN HE IS (he is great)... BUT HE COULDN'T EVEN COMPETE WITH THRESH (if rapha was born when we played, he would beat me) but thresh was the most dominant player ever... (sry caps) I played him & lost so bad. this is the only pro gamer that never lost... he was simply amazing.
@jojow158
9 жыл бұрын
He doesn't half tut his own trumpet :'D
@jojow158
9 жыл бұрын
+jojow158 Aha then 13:17
@vanguarddmr6957
9 жыл бұрын
+jojow158 imagine Faker lost like 2 games in his career. He is the Faker of Quake. But better.
@jojow158
9 жыл бұрын
*
@jojow158
9 жыл бұрын
Vanguard DMR Credit to his accomplishments but he is extremely self-absorbed and self-righteous. It's almost cringeworthy.
@vanguarddmr6957
9 жыл бұрын
jojow158 He's being asked questions about his life and experiences. He's being truthful, and he's obviously proud of what he's done for the eSports scene.
@trenoxspa
9 жыл бұрын
Thanks alot for this great interview. I remember vividly watching the "ferrari" demo, back in the day, and how it completely changed my perspective on competitive gaming. I felt like i had leveled up and i began seeing this mentally of control and meta creeping into other games as well from then on. One thing that surprised me in the interview was that you both seemed to agree that Quake3 was somehow a step back in terms of the quality of competitive gaming. I always really prefered the weapons system in Q3 over Q1/2 because of not only the balance but because it meant more decision making on what weapon to use for whatever the situation was. The analogy being that the weapons are now "tools" rather than a hierarchy of best to worst. I thought this concept spread into StarCraft as well and was the key component for making that game as great as it was (vs other super imba games at the time like Total Annihilation or Red Alert). Do you have any thoughts on this? Keep up the great interviews!
@AR7271
8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this! I've been uploading a lot of Quake videos lately for nostalgia reasons LOL. To preserve video game history properly!
@BrentBoswellMLN
9 жыл бұрын
Its nostalgic to listen to Thresh talk about the quake days. I always wondered what happened to Thresh and his deathrow team mates. It was fun listening him talk about mplayer, net quake, keyboard only gaming. It brought back memories! Enjoyed this.
@futuresteve9781
4 жыл бұрын
The legend...hes the reason why I played quake 2 3 4 live
@Sohum
9 жыл бұрын
*Witty joke about throwing a lantern or some shit*
@prawtism
9 жыл бұрын
+nuknuk48 The champ's named after him
@Blackadderthefourth
9 жыл бұрын
This was really interesting, I never really appreciated where the scene came from. Also I don't know what it is about your quake videos but though I have no idea about the scene I love listening to them
@Khorney
9 жыл бұрын
Really interesting. I think alot of people today don't know the impact Thresh had on quake 1 and 2 back in the day.
@MarylandDigger
8 жыл бұрын
I remember using Thresh's Quake Bible to set up my cfg and ambients. QQ-Bludgener, D-Ogmios
@Khorney
8 жыл бұрын
Maryland Digger I remember using his cfg stuff too actually! I remember some of the other elite players actually saying they learned stuff from that bible. Sujoy for example said that he didnt realize that if you shot a rocket and took the quad after, that shot was actually "Quadded".
@MarylandDigger
8 жыл бұрын
+Khorney OMG! I forgot all about Sujoy! He was the same age as I was... We were both in our early 20s at the time, and he was the only player from the UK that would ever come to American servers. He was the main reason I started playing on English, Swedish and Dutch servers. He started Quake 2 really early though, and I never took to Q2... So we lost touch. He was amazed I could get a 120 ping on servers overseas. The reason was I was doing really well in my career, so I could afford broadband. Most ppl back then were kids at the time, and were at the mercy of whatever their parents had... OR like in Sujoy's case, he was lucky his university had a really nice network connection. Do you still know Sujoy?
@Khorney
8 жыл бұрын
Maryland Digger I used to be an admin on ESReality back when he was still running it and I did review on a Corepad deskpad for him. Despite that we didnt have much contact to begin with, only the occasional IRC and website stuff mainly.He seems pretty active on twitter though :)
@MarylandDigger
8 жыл бұрын
+Khorney Figures... the one social media I don't use. Maybe I'll try spooking some of these old gamers on Facebook. Thanks Khorney! You made my day... Haven't thought about these guys in a long time. The guy that took over QQ after I "retired" was named Bjorn. I would really love to find him. He was living in Rotterdam and I'd come over to the Dutch servers and we would chat for hours. Take care! Thanks for the time travel!!!
@BodhiGeraci
9 жыл бұрын
xfire
@Balancedout
9 жыл бұрын
omg if he did phantasy i would die. promod was the shit
@Balancedout
9 жыл бұрын
***** Any good cod 4 lan players is cool with me.
@BodhiGeraci
9 жыл бұрын
***** fair enough
@yellowkindbud
9 жыл бұрын
The perception that he controlled situations completely to favor himself is also completely accurate. He avoided Drakken, Joink, and basically a tonne of people in Evil Geniuses constantly. Would only play in Netquake (which is the most ping heavy game in existance) on lan conditions for himself online... there's a reason people thought that it's because it's true. But it's just brand control, losing to people isn't good for someone with his image.
@Khorney
9 жыл бұрын
+yellowkindbud He did say in the video though that he literally got hundreds or thousands of challenges every week. And you still arent explaining how far ahead he was of everyone else when he was playing. In quake 2 it was so obvious, he mopped the floor with makaveli and immortal. Makaveli beat europe's best (shub), 3-0 in games and thresh actually both makaveli and immortal in duel on q2dm1 using only the grenade launcher.
@gentlebreeze100
9 жыл бұрын
i remember thresh as the legend of quake in the day! but i did get to beat him back then on dm4! even on hpb ping ! cheers
@LocKetopp
9 жыл бұрын
+gentlebreeze100 Demo or it didnt happen
@MarylandDigger
8 жыл бұрын
Oh reeeeally? What was your handle? When I was with D we played a practice team match vs. Deathrow on their server. We were widely considered the best NQ clan on the east coast. They spanked us hard. Granted our pings were crazy high, but they were all far above other US players in skill.
@gentlebreeze100
8 жыл бұрын
catscratch
@MarylandDigger
8 жыл бұрын
+gentlebreeze100 I don't recognize you. You couldn't have been an east coast player. If you beat Dennis, you must have had mad skills... So I would definitely remember you if you were east coast. We all played on servers at Penn State, MIT and a few in Florida. Were you in a clan? Do you remember me? I ran QQ as QQ-Bludgener, and I was D-Ogmios in Clan D.
@gentlebreeze100
8 жыл бұрын
i used to play with bronx back in the day im still playing quakeworld to this day.....im still top of the game on dm4 v the best nowadays...but i went inaktiv 2 years ago but i still spec and follow the scene my nick is adrenalin now or has been for quite some time...nop i dont regonize u since i was a dueler not much of a tdm player...i played in clan fear for some time but like i said mostly deathmatch
@-AtuiN-
8 жыл бұрын
Here is another reference to Thresh. Hunger games District 11 Thresh. Has to be right? xD
@thedananti
9 жыл бұрын
hope the 4th one is gonna b csgo... i dont follow these other games.
@gajdikuka
9 жыл бұрын
it's about people, not games
@thedananti
9 жыл бұрын
Gajdi Channel I get that, but I can't really care to watch really long interviews with persons who don't interest me and I know nothing of.
@GenuineHobo
9 жыл бұрын
+thedananti I agree
@phantomlightnin88
9 жыл бұрын
+thedananti I'm pretty sure hes got one with Scarra the league of legends player coming up (I think)
@TheLombaxy
9 жыл бұрын
+thedananti I'm glad the whole world revolves around you! I don't watch csgo and wish he did interviews with melee players but i realize he interviews whoever he wants and out interests aren't going to be perfectly aligned. Here's a magical concept... If you don't want to watch the video don't watch it. Or you could just watch the video and actually learn about that thing you know nothing of.
@s41nt_tv10
9 жыл бұрын
Bro you got like 7 of them shirts or what? xDDD
@CatnamedMittens
9 жыл бұрын
+S41NT_Tv He's got all of them.
@trunderwood
7 жыл бұрын
Any chance we could get a Thresh vs Billox exhibition game for the 20 year anniversary? Thorin - could you make this happen?
@fullwerkes
9 жыл бұрын
Thooorin, when you talked about Rapha at @1:25:00 - did he really invent that or did Cooller really do that? Cooller took what thresh did and applied that to Quake 3 truly....
@Octavian82
9 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for this awesome interview. I only started with late q2 and knew his name from the history books, so really nice to finally learn about him and all the influence that he had and things he started off that are natural nowadays.
@kylisselavellan8263
9 жыл бұрын
Really cool interview, and this PlaysTV thing is awesome. It's literally everything I've been wanting from a game recorder.
@tjmaximum27
9 жыл бұрын
thoorins on yahoo
@nik3234
6 жыл бұрын
Awesome guy awesome interview, everything top notch except for the constant promoting of playstv....
@DriverXSE
9 жыл бұрын
Keep the interviews coming!! One and a half hour of excuses though, not how I wanted to remember him...
@graylienz8317
2 жыл бұрын
Thresh seems like a super nice dude and humble. It's cool to see where gaming has come.
@kanivakil198
4 жыл бұрын
What's up with that shirt? Must have been pre-owned by a a giant with a very large head.
@NANIVIRI
9 жыл бұрын
really awesome interview, its very nice to learn things about some of these older players.
@ladynetrex
9 жыл бұрын
Wow, I missed it in my YT stream :O Caught it on ESR. This is awesome :D
@Roadjull
4 жыл бұрын
Denis "He never beat me, not even in practice" Fong
@eliulrich9393
9 жыл бұрын
light a candle for richard lewis [*]
@late_arvie
9 жыл бұрын
Great interview. Thank you.
@yank3970
6 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing Thooorin
@DayyMeeBear
9 жыл бұрын
This is going to be a good one
@KonnorC
9 жыл бұрын
he seems a little arrogant
@nitemarestlk
9 жыл бұрын
+konnor cahoona hes essentially the first esports pro player. and considering how large esports is now, he has some weight behind his arrogance. he also is still big in the gaming world through things like raptr and some game clip sites so he never abandoned the scene.
@CombateArmsOndraya
9 жыл бұрын
+konnor cahoona He's not. Arrogant is over blowing one's self worth, he's not doing that.
@KonnorC
9 жыл бұрын
I guess it's true, he's just stating facts.
@Nivek0
9 жыл бұрын
+Julian Ferretti i thought Fatal1ty was the first esports pro player.
@CombateArmsOndraya
9 жыл бұрын
Azphix Xaxa This bloke predates Fatal1ty. Fatal1ty is more successful though so he usually gets mistaken. Plus Fatal1ty played a lot more than Thresh and put in the hours of training that is expected now.
@maxlarsen7473
7 жыл бұрын
Respect from Rus.
@inzeinxz
9 жыл бұрын
R.I.P XFire :(
@artyfloresify
9 жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@Roadjull
8 жыл бұрын
"He never beat me"-meter: |................||..|
@Khorney
7 жыл бұрын
To be fair, its quite true. Makaveli said in his interview that Thresh isn't lying, at least not the Q2 stuff that relates to Makaveli personally.
@hk18810186
9 жыл бұрын
who is this?
@gzero1889
9 жыл бұрын
+hk18810186 Its Thresh,the league of legends support champion.
@Q3Lithium
9 жыл бұрын
+hk18810186 The first Quake legend, won a Ferrari off John Carmack back in the 90's.
@Khorney
9 жыл бұрын
+hk18810186 The first pro gamer. He was the ONLY pro gamer in the world at the time.
@MarylandDigger
8 жыл бұрын
He the reason there are professional online gamers today. He was the first person to ever gain sponsorship in esports. At the time, watching him play was like watching someone using a cheatbot.
@myrmidonquake2980
9 жыл бұрын
The greatest duellers like Fatality and Rapha? LOL! Except neither of them played Quake 2, which as Thresh clearly suggests is by far has the most depth out of all the series. Quake 2 players are practically Gods compared to Quake 3/Quakelive players.
@Huqe
6 жыл бұрын
Well that's nothing but a steamy pile of bullshit. Q2 is not only the worst Quake by far, but also the least succesful as an esport. Q3, QL and even QW are miles ahead, they are not only way better games but way more competitive too.
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