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@m0rgentraum
Жыл бұрын
Hey! Are you guys working on the JP2K deck that Matt referenced in this video? Also do you have an analogous deck for Chinese yet?
@coolbrotherf127
Жыл бұрын
I've been really enjoying it. I was surprised at how quickly I was able to start reading simple manga and subtitles with only a few hundred kanji learned.
@HypotheticalTiger
3 жыл бұрын
This is incredible for newcomers. Doesn't have any benefit for me at this point but stuff like this is really neat. Makes me really happy that beginning to learn is getting easier and easier for people due to the work you guys are doing!
@simplyasloth3848
3 жыл бұрын
@@koyomi4108 5 bucks brah. They gotta make money somehow
@kechi9021
3 жыл бұрын
@@koyomi4108 yea, I’m still a student with no income(with third world parents that completely reject the thought of spending money online), I have money saved up but I don’t have any way of converting my saved money to virtual currency that I can spend, if I could I would really spend 5 bucks, it’s a steal. Too bad.
@xeixi3789
3 жыл бұрын
@@simplyasloth3848 Yeah and remember that they probably don't even make enough money for even one man's income with the patreon income alone. This is also supposed to just be for early testing, so eventually the deck will be released for free. They're just monetizing the early development of something that will inevitably be free, and at that they don't even earn sufficient income according to their work, I don't think that's unfair at all.
@aeolian951
3 жыл бұрын
@@simplyasloth3848 5 bucks is a lot for some people (It mostly depends on the country). For example here in Russia all prices that are in dollars are basically 3 times more expensive than for Americans (because Ruble's exchange rate is just a fuckin joke). I personally can afford it, but I'd assume that for some people these prices are EVEN more expensive.
@nicolasrios1231
2 жыл бұрын
@@aeolian951 Well, this is a luxury, luckily if someone can't afford 5 dollars then they can get free RTK pdf or decks online.
@hopperhelp1
3 жыл бұрын
What interesting is that for over 15 years I've been wanting to study Japanese. The pandemic was finally the incentive to kick my butt into gear and start learning. At first I've been very upset with myself for not have studied it when I first wanted to but there wasn't nearly as many resources to learn as there is now! I can't tell you how I absolutely blessed I feel that all of this is beginning to show up as I begin my journey of studying this language.
@HremHudson
3 жыл бұрын
“The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago, the second best time is right now” Old proverb that i think is pretty fitting. Congrats on starting! Best of luck!
@milarkdoesthings450
3 жыл бұрын
You’re in the right place bud!
@DhinCardoso
3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@Neo-ez2mi
3 жыл бұрын
how is it going?
@DANGJOS
3 жыл бұрын
@@HremHudson No, the second best time was 10 years ago (jking)
@GudetamaSit
2 жыл бұрын
Just been directed to this video after a year or so of toying with learning Japanese, from watching tons of RTK guides for learning kanji that seemed like sound logic but way too long a process. Honestly, thank you so much. I will be doing a couple other of methods on the side to supplement this, but I'm happy to finally dive into recognising kanji.
@nitfitnit
9 ай бұрын
A hundred times no. You were mostly right in the first place. Go through RTK at an early stage, not to the exclusion of everything else, but get going. If you're doing it right, learning with RTK should not be boring, because day by day you recognize more and more of the Kanji that you come across in your other activities.
@huzayfasyed5488
2 ай бұрын
lmao he wants more money
@Chromind_tales
2 ай бұрын
i feel like it's such a marketing scheme the way he completely changes from "Remembering the kanji is great" to "I completely disagree, go use my product instead".
@melissabennett6571
3 жыл бұрын
Perfect! I just picked my RTK deck up again when this video dropped. This method sounds way more engaging and worth a try. Thanks for all you do.
@noalei
3 жыл бұрын
This sounds like you thought RTK was the best method but then you changed your mind when you decided to start selling an alternative.
@gaobot
3 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts... This doesn't address most of the problems RTK alternatives had as explained in the original video.
@quasa0
10 ай бұрын
@@gaobot yeah I feel like core 2k/6k is almost the same? but a bit harder
@Callme_Xcess
7 ай бұрын
Which one will u recommend @@quasa0
@AhmedEraj-fo7ou
Ай бұрын
Evolution.
@RayZin
3 жыл бұрын
If you see enough kanji, it’s starts looking familiar for some reason
@Geo-st4jv
3 жыл бұрын
THIS like after a while you "feel" them like 飛 I could imagine this as not having to do with flying
@DarkStarRules
3 жыл бұрын
@@Geo-st4jv I just learnt the Kanji yesterday lol. Apparently it's known for having a hard stroke order.
@TokyoXtreme
3 жыл бұрын
That's your brain's visual memory taking over. If you train enough with a kanji memorization system that uses mnemonics, your visual memory will just take over after a while, and the mnemonic goes dormant (the steps have basically "spread" and created networks in your brain).
@TokyoXtreme
3 жыл бұрын
@@DarkStarRules There is an RTK kanji deck that includes the stroke order diagrams that you can use together with graph paper to make beautiful handwritten kanji in the proper stroke order. Specifically I'm referring to the NihongoShark Anki deck, but the diagrams themselves can also be seen on jisho dot org (not sure if typing a link will nuke my comment). 飛 is somewhat unique in that the vertical line is written after the "top feather", but that's really the easiest way to write the character, so that's why the stroke order is the way it is (going left-to-right, then right-to-left, then left-to-right again). Write the character five times a day for a few days, and you'll never forget it. Even 鬱 is simple after a few days of review. Gotta write it out by hand though to really remember (kinesthetic memory).
@DarkStarRules
3 жыл бұрын
@@TokyoXtreme That's great but, I'm not so worried about writing characters. Just wanted to point out a fun fact. Though, if I do eventually start to produce Kanji, I'll follow what you wrote :)
@kougamishinya6566
3 жыл бұрын
11:17 "because you have eye sight" something about the way you said this was so funny to me xD
@Giraffinator
3 жыл бұрын
I just want to confirm that the deck is for patrons? I don't mind it, I just feel like that information should be in the video or description somewhere so people (me) know upfront before clicking on any links. if it is in the video, I missed it making sure that link wasn't messed up or that I wasn't doing something wrong.
@TheBlueGoldenHawk
3 жыл бұрын
I believe it's only patron-only for now until they've added sentences and also I think Matt wanted to test its intended effect before putting it out there fully. Essentially, the patrons are beta testers for it
@Livakivi
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! As someone who has been basically using the brute force method of learning vocabulary by remembering the reading and meaning of a word rather than learning kanji separately, it was pretty interesting to hear your thoughts about things such as should one still hit "good" when they only got the reading or only the meaning right. I suppose its kind of an "art form" as well, as over time, I feel like I've built a subconscious intuition which tells me which one should I hit in the case where I reveal the card too fast for my brain to explicitly "spell out" the reading or meaning of the word, and then through gut feeling knows whether I should hit again or good.
@Refold
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!!! If you feel you've benefited Refold, it would be awesome if you could link it under the "alternative resources" section of the description of your "Why I'm Quiting Duolingo" video!!
@Livakivi
3 жыл бұрын
@@Refold Done! I think its a really great resource, so I absolutely don't mind shouting it out at all! :)
@sk8_bort
3 жыл бұрын
your channel is super underrated
@thaoremchan9234
3 жыл бұрын
Hey its you. You bring me back to learning japanese. Thank you.
@wilmercuevas6491
2 жыл бұрын
You contradict yourself, in the video about RTK you said that 3 months was virtually nothing, and now because you want to sell this deck you say that RTK takes too long. I can understand the boring part, but that is more related to personal preferences, I personally enyojed the creative process of creating stories for RTK, and I don't enjoy at all the process of reading new words without knowing the kanjis. So I personally think that RTK is still the best method out there as you can just take a couple months and get rid of the kanji problem
@woowybaby3064
3 жыл бұрын
This deck looks amazing! Personally I'm past the beginner stage but I can only imagine how many Japanese learners this will help out. Keep up the great work!
@ethanthompson431
3 жыл бұрын
I am beyond hyped for this
@DANGJOS
3 жыл бұрын
I was redirected back to this video from the RTK one. I don't see how this addresses all of the issues raised in the RTK video. For example, what about the issue of efficiently learning all of the radicals that make up Kanji, as well as learning how to write them? I don't see how this method addresses this.
@ultraman6950
2 жыл бұрын
It addresses a new income for him.
@DANGJOS
2 жыл бұрын
@@ultraman6950 Yeah, that may be it unfortunately. I haven't bought his deck, nor have I gotten RTK. So far, I've been making some of my own mnemonics of kanji in words I find in content. It's honestly pretty frustrating at times, and inefficient, but I haven't been convinced that I should buy either one of these methods yet.
@DANGJOS
2 жыл бұрын
@@floatint2137 Yeah, perhaps I should. It would certainly make remembering these kanji easier.
@daylightmontes
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for such great video. English is not my first tongue, so when you mistakenly said "you see a component", I actually heard "you see an opponent" hahaha it actually makes sense, gotta defeat all those crazy kanji! Lol
@legierwen6472
3 жыл бұрын
Okay, quick question I've been thinking about a lot lately. My method until now was to make these sorts of cards, but in two ways. So i practiced writing them out by hand. Will the approach with one sided cards make me able to write kanji as well or no?
@jaym.7045
3 жыл бұрын
5$.. This better be a damn good deck because I skipped lunch today for this lol
@ZipfelmannKD
3 жыл бұрын
lmao
@robtrot8830
3 жыл бұрын
lol
@iamanangel9178
3 жыл бұрын
I think combination of JP1K and RRTK will be better. Understanding words and sentences is of course great, But I think the meaning of the words themselves is also important. I just can't imagine how long it would take me to guess the meaning of individual characters if I will remember the words. What do you think? Does it have any sense or i misunderstand point of the JP1K?
@jasonschuchardt7624
3 жыл бұрын
I think the point of the JP1K deck is not to teach you the meaning of individual kanji, but rather to create a situation where you're teaching your brain to process kanji correctly (Matt calls this reaching kanji fluency, if I'm understanding him correctly). The English analog (idk if you're a native speaker of English, but this is my experience) is you start reading English by sounding out words, but then your brain learns how to process English text and can instantly associate the group of squiggles with a meaning and sound. For kanji the equivalent of sounding out the kanji is looking at the radicals and matching them to a mnemonic story in your head, and then getting the reading. Kanji fluency on the other hand is the analog of instantly recognizing the group of squiggles. As I understand it, the deck won't teach you what meaning or even necessarily what sound to associate to any individual kanji (though I suspect you'll pick up quite a few readings of the kanji via this practice method), but it'll build that skill of recognizing and distinguishing kanji without "sounding them out." Anyway, this is my interpretation of what Matt said. Idk if this is what he means or not.
@kalyvara
10 ай бұрын
I can't exactly see how this "completely" (as per your own words in a pinned comment) contradicts the reasoning you elaborated on your RTK video. All I'm seeing is an awkward attempt at purposely discrediting a sound and well-rounded 1-hour long development on kanji acquisition, in this lazy 15-min verbose, so that you can actually advertise your seemingly half-assed product. Now you're obviously a very intelligent individual, and your advice is still extremely valuable for Japanese learners, but the facets of your persona I happened to be aware of recently make me question your actual intentions and genuine care about your community, to the detriment of their language acquisition process. That is just sad. Or maybe you'll be willing to break the hiatus at some point and explain yourself - until then, I'd recommend not taking people for the fools you seem to think they are. Edit: By the way, these are my own assumptions, and I can't wait to be proven wrong. Still, thank you for your videos.
@oejdhd
3 жыл бұрын
Nice! I made my own version of this when I started with RRTK. I basically just added the most common word/ reading (via frequency list) associated with that kanji keyword. I really liked the radical/component aspect in the beginning, really helped me "get" kanji.
@jonoms210
3 жыл бұрын
Hello my i get a copy? Because i can't really afford the jp1k...
@nimet8315
2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link for your personal deck? I was also planning on making a deck like that. So I'd like to check it out if that's okay.
@thisbejann4600
20 сағат бұрын
can you share this deck? right now im jungling between core2.3k for vocab and rrtk for kanji
@EscPointDev
3 жыл бұрын
I remember doing RRTK and grinding my teeth on the train to work. I got so furstrated over that danm deck and when you finish you can't read still. This deck sounds way better than the older system, good luck to you all in your Japanese learning.
@FourteenthAngel
3 жыл бұрын
I mean you can still get the general meaning of the kanji but yeah you still can't read it which was ultimately by problem with working through RTK.
@HeraBek
3 жыл бұрын
Sweet- this is what I have wanted- the quickest way to build my vocabulary so that I can start gleaning input from media input. Right now, my vocabulary is so limited and formal that I have a hard time parsing most things in a way that feels like I gain anything.
@pastelshoal
8 ай бұрын
I tried this method starting out, I quickly felt that I was cheating myself. I always knew the meaning, but rarely knew the reading. While it did get me to recognise kanji in a sense, I think that it missed a huge beneit on requiring the reading as well. if you memorise the reading, if it's a common one, it will help you read countless other words, often correctly on the first time. It's a bit more brutal at the beginning, but I think I'd just do reading and meaning. To develop "Kanji fluency", I felt it was better to just learn the radicals so things stopped looking like scribbles as people often say. Less painful than RTK, still able to make mnemonics if you have to, can learn some indications for reading, and teaches you stoke order critical for looking up in a dictionary on a phone.
@coolbrotherf127
6 ай бұрын
I'll say that immersion is still really important while using the deck as with any learning tool. The deck exists as a way to Prime your brain to start to be and to recognize words and Kanji in the wild. Seeing the words used in real material and in context does a lot to help build the link between reading, visual recognition, and the meaning. Just looking at a word on an Anki card just can't do all of that by itself. For example, I had a lot of trouble remembering the reading for 絶対 (ぜったい, absolutely) when studying the card for the first time. It was actually from watching a Japanese TV show about skateboarding that I kept seeing the phrase "絶対無理" said by the people in the show and in the subtitles. Something about that experience created a mental link in a way that allowed me recall the reading and meaning without issue when I see the kanji now. The same process happened with hundreds of other kanji in different ways. I just had to keep going and trust that I would eventually improve my recall even if I had forgotten 100 times before. Some mental connections just need more time to create than others. People can debate the effectiveness of specific methods or tools all day, but if we never use the words in real life, all that study is for nothing. All that matters is finding something that makes sense to you and can be done consistently.
@HaroldR
3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, I don't need it anymore but it looks good.
@elmousico1498
3 жыл бұрын
This deck sounds great, but I have one question about it. How does it teach people to actually write the kanji? Does it teach stroke order, or does that not really even matter? (I'm just now getting into learning kanji and I always heard that stroke order is important, so I was curious.)
@DANGJOS
3 жыл бұрын
That's the same question I have. I honestly don't see how. Honestly, this is disappointing because I don't see a great alternative for the RTK method here. I wish this would be addressed.
@user-rt6ij3rz5y
3 жыл бұрын
I did about 1200 card of RTK I qiuit and after a year I did 700 card out of RRTK and then I quit because college and finales but to be honest the result wasn't good enough to keep me motivated to make me create time to study. But again I won't forget that I gained so much knowledge and love for kanji while doing stories and write them in paper, but I would recommend to do this method because 2k or 3k kanji for someone who don't even know a 700 word is bad because 80% of the kanji you see you won't see it again outside the deck intel you gain enough vocab and grammar that you can read stuff made of these kanjis, but if you are doing this you will build a solid foundation of Japanese so you can read manga and some novels Then you can start doing RTK and instead of the English meaning you will use one of the Japanese reading and the stories will be in Japanese to so you can practice so much japanese while doing the deck instead of only memorize false English meanings and kanjis you won't see soon so probably you will forget them. And don't forget you are in a very good level of Japanese that most kanjis in the deck you will probably see in everyday life while immersing in the language
@user-rt6ij3rz5y
3 жыл бұрын
The time I had dedicated to learn kanji, oh man I could learn English again 🤣 -I am not native speaker as you can see- Not saying that kanji is hard or boring NO kanji is a reall fun and engaging but its need the right technique to do it
@urklegizmo
3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say this is in the middle of RTK and brute force. Actually I don't see any relation that is unique to RTK. It's just a more relaxed or passive version of the brute force method. That being said, after having learned kanji the RTK way, I now never analyze the kanji via their stories, and probably cannot remember 90% of the stories I used. I feel like the passive brute force method might be better because looking back I sunk time into stories that became redundant and eventually started remembering kanji naturally/passively. Then again I did have all the benefits from RTK stored in my brain, so it might have not been as efficient without that RTK experience... I also think learning the radicals (the RTK way) would benefit as a primer because before that, I just saw kanji as unstructured random lines. After learning the radicals, I had comprehensible chunks that helped my brain learn patterns when I was learning kanji both actively and passively.
@matteobanman5462
2 жыл бұрын
I thought you said to creat your own cards for a better understanding. So why should we download that deck?
@Refold
2 жыл бұрын
Generally, yes, creating your own cards will lead to higher emotional attachment and thus higher mental retention. We advocate for doing that in Stage 2 once you've built a foundation in the language. In Stage 1, you don't know anything yet so it's difficult to find appropriate 1T example sentences, or identify which words to learn. This deck removes all that uncertainty in Stage 1 and prepares you for Stage 2.
@matteobanman5462
2 жыл бұрын
@@Refold on your website you might want to update the “Basic Anki Setup” section because some of the stuff on it is outdated to current anki.
@DiogoMaymoneMIA
3 жыл бұрын
I have done around 30% of the Tango N5 deck and have finished RRTK, should i switch to this deck or just finish the Tango N5
@dLzzzgaming
3 жыл бұрын
Same question, but for 65% done? lol
@jon7980
3 жыл бұрын
I'd say finish Tango N5 and skip this deck. this is an attempt to streamline RTK and not a replacement for sentence decks. learning sentences is way better than just single words because you also reinforce your understanding of all the words in the sentence you already knew.
@dLzzzgaming
3 жыл бұрын
@@jon7980 This was Matt's recomendation for me as well. I think the intention is in the long term for the JPL1K deck to be filled with example sentences instead of just words, like the N5 deck, it doesn't make much sense to drop the N5 Tango deck when I'm already 70% of the way through, even if I did want to play with the new toy, so to speak
@DiogoMaymoneMIA
3 жыл бұрын
@@jon7980 Yea I thought so, the benifit of learning the new words in a phrase rather than alone is great so yea i will stick with the Tango deck. Appreciate the response tho
@jameswhittle5031
3 жыл бұрын
I think I did this method to begin with. I just went through the Fluent Forever 625 stuff and learned all the kanji through the words they're associated with, never actually studied any individual kanji, worked pretty well for me :)
@JeffReeves
3 жыл бұрын
Great work! Glad to see a newer option that may be able to replace RRTK + Tango N5 as the starting Anki decks.
@wagiyuu9804
Жыл бұрын
Wait I'm confused. So i just bought this deck and I know hirgana and some katakana. Do I need to learn vocab and grammar before learning from this? Because I don't have any knowledge of any words. Will it just teach as I go along or will I have to know some basic words and vocab before then? I am a beginner to learning Japanese so I would appricate it if someone replyed back. Thank you!
@Refold
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the question! No, you do not need to know any grammar to use the deck. To mark a card correct, you just need to get the recall right. The example sentences are there to help you ease into the language and give you real world examples of how each word is used with context.
@wagiyuu9804
Жыл бұрын
@@Refold Ok thank you so much!!
@Themindofreyrey
2 жыл бұрын
Refold is great! Do think you'll be getting Mandarin any time soon?
@thatgotofinal
9 ай бұрын
sounds bad, bascially what i tried to start my learning from with a deck constructed in similar way, but i just found my brain ignoring the kanji because it didn't matter for correctness of answer as I would check the reading anyways, so after a while the card is just gone forever and brain is still empty. It ends up the same as having it always shown
@Pookerr
8 ай бұрын
Yeah same, as someone with a good level of vocab and basically no kanji this deck sucks. I don’t recognize the kanji at all then i see the reading and understanding because of the reading and pass it and bye bye see you in 1.2 years lmao. I guess i’ll get RTK
@tafellappen8551
3 жыл бұрын
this sounds surprisingly close to my own method that i stumbled on through experimentation. if i dont have a word that uses the kanji then I just flat out wont remember it. I still like learning the meanings of the characters though. Partly because i just really enjoy having sentences like "i rode my self-rotate-cart to the gym for some carry-move" but also in general having the meanings of the kanji and the meaning of the word both in my mind kind of serves as a way for them to prop each other up. learning either without the other just feels painful
@arewadareka
3 жыл бұрын
"He's an ability-having employee."
@tomersadot
2 жыл бұрын
Is that really all that different from taking whatever vocab deck we already have (Front: Vocab with kanji, Back: furigana + english translation), guessing pronunciation and meaning, then checking the back for feedback?
@remismith4012
3 жыл бұрын
this is exactly what i was looking for. currently doing RRTK, but it feels kinda stupid that i'm not learning any japanese. this deck solves that problem. saves me about a month of my life ;)
@remismith4012
3 жыл бұрын
finished it today ;)
@jordeneatscerealstgh7755
3 жыл бұрын
@@remismith4012 opinion? Was it easy/hard? Did you achieve kanji fluency? What about your vocab? Can you understand japanese better?
@remismith4012
3 жыл бұрын
@@jordeneatscerealstgh7755 I can only speak from my own experience, but the main reason why I decided to do it this way is because two months ago I was really motivated to start learning Japanese. If I had started with RRTK combined with not understanding any of my immersion, I probably would have given up. With that being said here's my review: In the beginning it's quite difficult to get both the kanji reading and the meaning in your head because you are learning two different things with each flash card. After a couple hundred cards this got a lot easier. It has really 'kickstarted' my comprehension. Did I achieve kanji fluency? I had to rewatch the video to know what that means, but yes I think so. Obviously there are many kanji that I don't know but more often than not I tend to recognize the kanji I've learned when I come across them in my immersion. To give an idea, in the first two weeks or so, I was not able to tell apart the kanji for money and the kanji for now (金 and 今 respectively). this isn't and issue now. Can I understand better Japanese? Yes, for sure. I went from understanding literally nothing to being able to follow the story of an anime with Japanese subs. but this didn't come automatically, I also spent a lot of time picking apart the language to understand the structure, which is in my opinion the biggest downside of vocab cards. learning vocab is not the same as learning the language, you still need to figure out how the individual words fit together. hope this helped ;)
@tongansoulja7378
3 жыл бұрын
@@remismith4012 I’m currently over halfway through with the deck, but I can hardly recall the readings for a lot of kanji. Did you end up just recognizing the words through tons of immersion? And are you able to read manga right now?
@jonathancastro8487
2 жыл бұрын
@@tongansoulja7378 Guys, To download the deck i just need to suscribe to his patreon and "download" it, like is it a program? Or is it more like a suscription web? I don't really get it
@londonmadethekid4344
3 жыл бұрын
this is amazing for newcomers i swear i literally just finished your other mass immersion deck so gutted i didn't have this but this new deck will be great
@solarjudgement4575
5 ай бұрын
So i understand there is a feedback loop to getting the meaning correct or not. And having the furigana hidden allows a feedback loop just as having the meaning hidden (on back of card) creates a feedback loop. But on v3 of the JP1k deck which im using, as soon as the card appears there is audio of the reading of kanji which eliminates the feedback loop of recalling reading. I tried going to settings for deck and turning off the automatic audio but it didnt work. So my solution is to turn my volume down.
@nwkitesurfer
2 ай бұрын
Is this to be used with Anki? Or is this an inclusive app and deck?
@360marcel9
3 жыл бұрын
Hey I’m new do I have to join the patron to get the JP1k Deck and also I’m doing Anki on my iPhone is that good or bad and also I’m immersion every and reviewing hiragana and katakana and kanji , just would love To know how too get the deck for my immersion life style practice
@munzutai
2 жыл бұрын
I think this method makes sense but I feel like I'm missing a system and the finality of being able to say "I know all the 2136 jouyou kanji." The first 1k words that are covered in the JP1K deck will probably cover only a few hundred of the jouyou kanji, while it's maybe a little over a thousand with JP2K. How do I obtain the rest in a systematic manner? With more JPxK decks that come out in the future? Or should I just start immersing like refold suggests until I notice someday that, by that point, I probably know the jouyou kanji? Am I perhaps overvaluing the significance of reaching the end of the jouyou list?
@Paul-yk7ds
2 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way. I did most of the JP1K deck (admittedly I quit early because it felt inefficient without example sentences), and then I've just been immersing... But it feels like I'm still missing so many common kanji, I wish I started with a more complete kanji memorizing approach. Might do RRTK or something
@malkeynz
3 жыл бұрын
1. Do you have good evidence that this approach to reaching "kanji (recognition) fluency" is effective/efficient in practice, or is it more theoretical at this point? Outside of a handful of the more basic/unique characters, I've felt like the systematic, component approach has been quite necessary for me personally (using RSH in my case) to build a base that I can use for points of reference/comparison, so I'm wary of something that purports to be a shortcut. 2. It might be ok to skip conscious consideration of the components as far as recognition is concerned, but they become rather important if one of your end goals is to write, or you want to be able to identify the radical (for any reason), or you want to use certain non-phonetic input methods (possibly more relevant for Chinese), or you want to be able to identify components as hints for the meanings/phonetics of new characters, or if you want to name certain characters when speaking (e.g. to differentiate homophones), etc. If that's the case would there really be a benefit to delaying it until later vs just starting with RRTK? I guess it might depend a lot on the individual. 3. This doesn't apply to mobile, but hovering with the mouse doesn't feel like the ideal workflow/UX when revising. I just display the reading on the answer side of the card, while doing what you said (attempting the reading but only grading the meaning) - it keeps the flow simple. Is there really that much of a reinforcement advantage in having them separated to justify the hover thing? You probably at least want the reading to be toggleable with a keyboard shortcut (like a hint with the "Hint Hotkeys" addon), assuming it's not already.
@milarkdoesthings450
3 жыл бұрын
Personally as a person that did the lazy kanji back in the day. It doesn’t feel like learning the components has helped a lot with my ability to acquire them. But it does feel like being consciously aware of the components has been helpful in seeing them as meaningful writing as opposed to blobs of ink.
@ayanokouji5784
2 жыл бұрын
for your second point, you can just write kanji while going through flash cards
@matteobanman5462
2 жыл бұрын
How do you make it so that when you hover your mouse over the kanji it shows the furigana, is it some sort of add on.
@terminal_wayward5755
3 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely incredible. Much love
@spacevspitch4028
2 жыл бұрын
I'm up to about 250 Kanji with pure rote, brute force method - but only with English meanings with a user made Joyo Kanji course on memrise. So far it's a very simple, low stress process. I can simply learn to recognize and know the basic meaning of the Kanji in English. Then, as I'm learning Japanese with Pimsleur and Memrise, those Kanji start to come up in the actual Japanese I'm learning. I already recognize and know the meaning of the Kanji in English and now the final component gets added - the actual Japanese readings/words. It's a lot of fun when it happens. For example, a simple Kanji like "今" I learned early on in the Kanji course. So, I knew the image and stroke order of it, and that it meant "now". Then, a bit later, Pimsleur taught the word "now" in Japanese, which is "いま". So now, when I see "今" in the memrise Kanji course, I actually think "いま" first, and not "now" because I've used the word in Pimsleur so much. This has started happening with a lot of Kanji. It's really cool to experience all the different elements come together when these new words and phrases come up. Anyway, it sounds like this deck Matt is talking about here is a somewhat similar approach, though more direct. Like, you learn the meaning of the Kanji first and foremost, but you're always studying the reading with each card, so it's a passive to active kind of process. Considering I'm still in the early stages, it could be useful for me. Has anybody done it?
@Ikigaijin-kg2kh
Жыл бұрын
Hi Matt, I've discovered you in the last few days and I hope to get better at Japanese quickly to apply for the MEXT scholarship. I've watched your video on "Remembering the Kanjis" and now I have watched this one, but one thing bugs me: on Refold, it is said that people should learn the at least 5000 words. I'm using Memrise to go through the JLPT vocabulary list, and I'm going at a good pace. Should I stop to prevent "Memory Interference"? At the same time, does this deck that Refold sells allow me to learn as quickly or is it slower? Is this new deck more helpful?
@Refold
Жыл бұрын
Hey! This isn't Matt (he actually left Refold in early 2022), but I'll try to answer your questions! First, you should definitely join the Refold Japanese server. There are a TON of passionate Japanese learners who would love to give you tips and help you on your way to Japanese fluency: refold.link/join Second, Japanese is very different from English and most people need at least 3500 hours of study just to become "passably proficient." There isn't really a "hack" it, unless you want to specifically study for the test, (which is totally reasonable) but that's more book knowledge than actually being able to use the language. And finally, Memrise and the JP1K serve essentially the same purpose: to prepare you to really learn the words from immersion. If you just memorize a word list, you'll quickly forget. But if you're using the tool alongside immersion and authentic Japanese, those words will stick with you for years and years. Here's a video I made on the topic: kzitem.info/news/bejne/0Iag3J2MnndhrIY I hope this helps, - Ben
@Ikigaijin-kg2kh
Жыл бұрын
@@Refold Thank you Ben! As for the "tools" you mention (" But if you're using the tool alongside immersion and authentic Japanese [...]."). Do you mean Memrise and JP1k (and any other deck designed to accomplish a similar purpose)? I already joined the discord servers. I still don't know when I should contact them since I'm still doing something "basic" (learning vocab and listening material).
@Refold
Жыл бұрын
Yep, "the tool" was referring to Memrise or the JP1K (or any other vocab learning tool)@@Ikigaijin-kg2kh
@ahmedas1991
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, when I click on "Buy this deck", I get an error message. Can you provide us with an updated link to purchase the deck?
@sovietnyc9125
3 жыл бұрын
damn this sounds awesome. too bad i’ve already finished PRTK and i’m at like 3000 morphs now lol. nice work though, i really appreciate your commitment to continuing to refine the method. you’re doing great and important work.
@kevinvelez4743
3 жыл бұрын
The concept of learning of this man is incredible. As a learner myself I'd say that it is true all what he said. It's just like he said with an interesting example "getting the ball in the hoop" I'm not a native English speaker and if someone asked me to write something by hand I'd most likely not get it 100% correct. I can't spell words but I know how to recognize and read them. this is also true for learning kanji, I'm learning Chinese and Japanese and I know that learning how to recognize the word per se is much more effective than depending on scripts to spell them out "furigana or pinyin" to learn characters. As you learn how to recognize them you eventually get better at it and do it with less effort. What I do is always type in its original form like the Jp1k deck does I mean the character without any help on how to pronounce it "furigana or pinyin" and I always go back to what I wrote and read them without any help, thus that's how you sould do it, you'll find out you'll be able to recognize more and more words and eventually reach whatever your goal in the language is.
@UltimateGattai
Жыл бұрын
That Refold price for the JP1K is that USD? Or can I view the price in Aussie dollars somehow?
@トゥルーマンチャンネル
3 жыл бұрын
Is their a tutorial video on how to get started with your deck I've been using quizlet and learning by covering my hand over the hiragana and trying to just read the kanji bit but this is annoying I think what I gather ur refold will simplify this for me and I'm fine with becoming a Patreon but I have no idea what software refold uses or how to use it
@トゥルーマンチャンネル
3 жыл бұрын
Update: I've read through your website roadmap was helpful I am looking to download anki rn !
@joshmcss
Жыл бұрын
Been using this deck for about 2 months now and it just doesn’t work for remembering most kanji… big fan matt but quite disappointed with this one :( my brain doesn’t remember the kanji, but because i grade on meaning, it can give me up to 28 days to review again, and i just will not remember the character
@seriousmax
Жыл бұрын
Didn't work for me either. Better start with some RTK learning first.
@AmbarLostinJapan-gx6pr
11 ай бұрын
Guys, tokini andy released a video of how to learn kanji ymis pretty good, it has the rtk vibes but tells you what to do to actually learn how to pronounce kanji and not forget, what to do after you know the meaning basically. And also he is releasing a series using the method to learn specifiic kanji with him go check it ou
@DiogoVKersting
3 жыл бұрын
My personal experience is that indeed something like wanikani feels really "slow", but trying to recognize/memorize kanji "from nothing" felt bit counterproductive as well. By leaning straight from kanji words I would end up confusing a lot of kanji for similar ones. Sure in context this is not a "huge problem", because most of the time only one of the meanings "fits" the context, and you'll just know by process of elimination. But on the other hand, it can cause you to "brutally" misinterpret what you're reading in the case where it's "ambiguous" or in cases where you don't even realize there's a "second meaning". So if I were to create a method which would fit me perfectly, it would involve indeed to memorize mnemonics for "parts of kanji", but instead of learning a bunch of "obscure/uncommon" works first (just because the kanji has less strokes, or is taught early in Japanese school), I would indeed focus on the most common/useful first (but I would learn mnemonics for their "parts" first). Of course learning mnemonics takes quite a bit of time at first, but you "recoup" a good part of that time, because you end up "failing less" when learning/reviewing words later on. Memorizing the "reading" of a Kanji, from the Kanji alone (i.e. outside of context) I think it's a not a very productive exercise. Memorizing meaning from a kanji "alone", especially in cases where you're confusing with similar kanji, I think *can* be a productive exercise. Anyways, I would love to see research done in the matter, since it's extremely interesting.
@haydenstreib5204
2 жыл бұрын
I don't know Japanese but maybe because your learning the kanji "like a face" your able to notice the smaller details/strokes of the kanji. And because your learning such a wide variety of kanji. then maybe the ones that look similar to each other will still have differences that you will be able to recognize. especially if this is where your starting from. because if you don't know the "parts of kanji" and this is all your brain has to go on. maybe this would be quicker and more like how a child learns the language. if you see this matt. tell me what you think!
@kyle11704
2 жыл бұрын
If someone can help me I'm a little confused >_> Short Version: How am I supposed to know the meaning of the Kanji if I don't know any? Also if I am only learning the kanji and the most common word they are associated with, how does this allow me to read new kanji since I'm not learning the components? Long Version: I have not started learning kanji yet so how am I supposed to learn them from this deck. Would I just associate the kanji with the meaning and keep going over the set until I know them all? I came from the 'Why "Remembering the Kanji" is The Best Way to Learn Kanji' video and he talked about how the book shows you the meaning, the kanji, and how to write them. This seems more effective because you're learning the joyo kanji and how to write them, while this method is 1,000 words and just recognizing them. When you learn the components that make up the kanji it allows you to figure out the meanings of new ones.
@Alejandrogarcia-er5zo
2 жыл бұрын
If you learn the kanji with remembering the kanji you know the meanings, but not all the words use the meanings of kanji, some use kanji with his sounds, like hiragana o katakana. For me, the best way is learning the first of all Kanji, because its more easy to recognise the kanjis with a lot of similarities between them if you know how to write and read his components, and in this way is easier to remember the words. When you know the kanji, you learn the use of each kanji studing vocabulary with kanji and furigana, because the same character have a lot of uses depending the word and dont have an specific rule. I´m not english speaker, i´m sorry if you don´t understad well ^^´
@tnbbcp
3 жыл бұрын
Does this still teach the basic parts of each kanji? Such as the flower or animal legs?
@Refold
3 жыл бұрын
No, it doesn't teach the component radicals or the mnemonics to help remember them. The goal of this deck is to teach you whole Kanji and their meaning rather than the parts.
@nathanielscreativecollecti6392
2 жыл бұрын
I'm level 26 in Wanikani. It's taken time but I feel pretty good about kanji now.
@nathanielscreativecollecti6392
2 жыл бұрын
Wish I knew about this earlier though.
@chrisgrudge6964
3 жыл бұрын
In Matts Remembering the Kanji video he says that you can learn 2k kanji in 3 months if you follow his method. But is his method posted anywhere? I’m just curious what pace to go at.
@2belowfreezing
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this is kinda frustrating for me. Matt has changed is opinions on the best way to learn Japanese but I feel like there isn't nearly as much to work off of here as there is in RTK in general.
@jeanlucas2592
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have a doubt. As a day 0 beginner, should I complet this and then star immersing, or star immersing right away?
@TheBlueGoldenHawk
3 жыл бұрын
it's also meant as a supplement to immersion, especially since it's ordered by frequency in slice of life anime. It's best to immerse alongside the deck so you reinforce every word you're learning, especially by using Japanese subtitles to read the kanji as well
@MrSuwaidiSama
3 жыл бұрын
Great videos man, I appreciate the effort you make for us newbie Japanese learners. Even though I am not studying from flashcards, the method that I used to learn Japanese is the same one to memorize crucial fundamentals of certain sciences books that are considered the center of a particular science , and it is by repeating reading the Genki volume 1-2 for the purpose to absorb and transfer important vocabularies and grammar to my unconscious mind until it becomes normal and natural to me with its familiarity, while completely ignoring the Kanji for later due to its difficulty and time consuming. The grammar for me is important because I do write a lot, and it means every sentence should be in formal form. However, ignoring the Kanji in Genki is the worst idea I had made and it slowed me down dramatically; because if I spent my time to learn the simple 325 Kanji symbols even if without the pronunciation by remembering their drawn strokes (For Volume 1 and 2 combined) from the very beginning while repeating my readings, it would have stuck easier in my brain, and created a shortcut for me to learn not just faster, but also deliberately (as you have mentioned in the video) and more efficiently. Currently I am studying these 325 Kanjis and I will go through the process of repeating the readings again several times. It is obvious that Genki is not enough, so I did purchase three additional books "The Key to Kanji" and "A Dictionary of Japanese Grammar". The first includes around 1000 Kanji symbols (also clearly not enough), while the second consist of three volumes "Basic" "Intermediate" "Advanced" and it offers plenty of grammar sentences and examples. The third book is " Japanese Short Stories for Beginners" to test my Japanese reading once I believe myself that I have became advanced and can read beginner to intermediate (at least) Japanese fluently, later I will buy more stories from intermediate to advanced. I believe that the long path I have chosen to learn the language is perfect enough for generating input before the output process, moreover, I am serious about it. Unfortunately, I am still not used to learning from flashcards, and it is uncomfortable for me. I strongly believe that learning from books is easier if you have the doctrine of "repetitive" habit of highly important materials, because the flow of information, or context, are vertically organized in textbooks. You just need to have, and build a robust raw basics such as; Excellent Kana (with good pronunciation) and Kanji. Keeping in mind that I do not watch TVs, Netflix or Anime (since 5 years). I just love the language and its sounds plus the symbols.
@danielwolstenholme9649
2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed reading your story as a newbie, how is it going now?
@AlisSpark
9 ай бұрын
I'd recommend the Kanji Learner Course by the way by Andrew Scott Conning and its graded reading sets. It combines the best of remembering the Kanji and you directy practice Kanji with vocabulary and in context.
@johnnorielmercado8194
3 жыл бұрын
This is good man!! Good Job
@lastninjaitachi
3 жыл бұрын
Kanji fluency. That's what you should name it. I'm sold on your method. Hope there's much more to come.
@saeedrezaamanat8490
3 жыл бұрын
Hey there, can you add a free version of JP1K as trial?
@jan42
Жыл бұрын
Simply show the deck in action!
@prodblue-bh7fu
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, Should you still pass the card if you can only recall the meaning of the word/kanji after the looking at the furigana?
@Dedonarivl96
3 жыл бұрын
Soooo I’m 1400 Kanji deep into RTK, do I stop using this method??
@glegos2281
3 жыл бұрын
no, just keep going. if you've already gotten that far, it sounds like that system is probably working for you just fine.
@Dudelee1
3 жыл бұрын
only issue i'm having is i use the mobile for iOS and i don't think there's any way to "mouse over" the kanji to see the reading before you flip the card, anyone know if there's a way to do this? i should probably post in the refold disc but might aswell ask here as i'm here
@Dudelee1
3 жыл бұрын
Don’t worry, i’m an idiot. The reading does appear if you tap on the text itself on iOS
@aeolian951
3 жыл бұрын
It is probably the best Anki deck that I've ever seen.
@Paul-yk7ds
2 жыл бұрын
Two weaknesses of the JP1K deck, from my experience: 1. It felt inefficient going through this deck because there are no example sentences (or pictures or anything) to help the vocab stick in your memory. It's just really hard to get individual vocab words to stick in your memory without context. 2. It's not a complete solution to get all the way to kanji fluency, is it? A year after this deck's release, there is still no JP2K or any higher decks to my knowledge. Is JP1K suppose to be enough to get you to "kanji fluency" by itself? (My understanding is no.)
@Refold
2 жыл бұрын
Hi Paul. Thanks for your candid feedback. 1. We released JP1K v2 in October 2021, which includes example sentences. Learners reported the v2 has been a game-changer for them. 2. This deck is meant to get learners to the sentence mining phase, but other learners share your concerns that 1K isn't enough to do that. We are planning a JP2K (and maybe 3K), but we're working on other languages first. Thanks again!
@matteobanman5462
2 жыл бұрын
Do you recommend learning just vocabulary first then kanji?
@animatrix1851
3 жыл бұрын
So I actually covered 50% of the rrtk deck before having to drop it due to a busy schedule mid last year, I was wondering about the decision to remove mnemonics in the refold deck, why was it removed and would you advise users to create their own mnemonics and kanji breakdowns? I just started the refold deck today :)
@Ac-mw3lj
3 жыл бұрын
It's because they had used a machine to add stories from kanjikoohii.com but they received complaints about some of them being rude or sexual. It's explained in the 3rd tutorial card of the deck and the link to the deck with stories is also there.
@animatrix1851
3 жыл бұрын
@@Ac-mw3lj oh thanks for clearing that up, I was wondering about that lol I knew it wouldn't do well with women.
@DengueBurger
3 жыл бұрын
Feel like you could add readings to RTK/RRTK. I’ve found that extremely helpful. You basically just focus on the meaning and only pass the card if you recall the meaning, as you say with this method.
@PARAMONARIOS
3 жыл бұрын
BEST JAPANESE DECK EVER. Looking forward to JP1K part 2!
@blackmassata1605
3 жыл бұрын
What do you mean by recalling the reading of the word? I'm just confused by difference between the reading of the word and the meaning of the word
@learningjapanesewithrefold2040
2 жыл бұрын
I just bought the deck and it looks nice
@michaelmerritt3585
2 жыл бұрын
Lowkey kinda sounds like you're shilling. You had the whole ass video essay detailing your RTK ideology and it sounded pretty solid to me. The only issue is the obsesion with kanji study over taking time to go over atleast some grammar and vocab(no matter how you cut it you gotta grind so atleast have fun right?). Regardless pretty strange how you backpedaled on this to essentially offer a paid access anki deck after rebranding to Refold. Like if you really cared this would be free I do not need to give you 20 dollars for an anki deck. There are bigger ones with pictures and voice acting and custom sentences for FREE on anki.
@anasm2704
Жыл бұрын
do you have any suggestions ? i'm looking for a good deck to start with
@michaelmerritt3585
Жыл бұрын
Tried RTK. If you're dedicated and keep up with it it'll help. For me though I just found it boring and preferred to grind vocabulary sets while studying Kanji in isolation. That's what I think is fun and no matter how you slice it you need to study for hours. In that regard you could look on the learn japanese subreddit and use any of the Core 2k/6k/10k decks. Do note that the bigger the deck the more specific vocabulary will become. I've also seen lots of people recommending Tango N5 and N4 decks. Those might be worth checking out.
@seriousmax
Жыл бұрын
It doesn't work (at least for me, but there's at least one another person in the comments). It probably only starts working after you've learned at least 500 or so kanji/hanzi characters properly. RTK (RTH in my case, as I switched to Chinese) works wonderfully. With this deck the Kanji never stuck when I tried to dabble in Japanese, so I had to quit since I couldn't retain the sentences. Also it was 5$ with a Patreon subscription at the time, if it's 20$ now that's a bit too expensive. If you like Matt's advice, though, which is free and generally good and detailed, I think the price is fine if you want to show appreciation for his work. It's just not very easy to come up with ways to monetize his work. PS I've also heard he wasn't sure if kanji fluency is a thing and would work for beginners, so this was a way to test run it; apparently it works for some (many?) people.
@gboundrapa
2 жыл бұрын
I really want something like this for Chinese! Amazing stuff!
@brianrafisalvano547
3 жыл бұрын
Oh my god this is so GREAT video.
@honey3762
Жыл бұрын
I would have liked to see examples of the deck to know if it's good for me I'm not going to buy it for sure now :C
@SociopathDev
3 жыл бұрын
Question: If I see a kanji on my anki but I don't know what does it mean, but I remember it when I hover the mouse and see the hiragana... I should count as PASS or FAIL?
@gabrielm.6730
3 жыл бұрын
That's a really good question. If it was me, i would failed it, because the goal is to recognize the kanji not the sound.
@chawanrissa1280
3 жыл бұрын
12:30 From what I understood it would be consider as PASS because the goal is remember the MEANING, not the reading ;)
@BillyViBritannia
Жыл бұрын
So should you try to recall the meaning before you reveal the furigana too or after? The way you presented it seems like you do it after but then you might still be remembering the meaning off of the reading and not be able to read the kanji alone in the end.
@nicolasguerrerovillalba6432
2 жыл бұрын
Gran trabajo, Una pregunta, recomiendan estudiar todo el Roadmap o seguir los stage de acuerdo a la etapa en la que me encuentre.
@ougg6387
2 жыл бұрын
Léelo todo para hacerte una idea y luego ve siguiéndolo
@stinhoundfanaccount959
2 жыл бұрын
This method seems really engaging, I studied japanese in college but had minimal focus on kanji, so I will be giving this a try. One question I have though is: what would be recommended for learning to write the kanji then? In your Why RTK is the best way to learn kanji method you mentioned that one of the downsides of other methods is that you don't really learn how to write the kanji which is an important skill to have. Thanks!!
@bensy1704
2 жыл бұрын
thank god I felt insecure doing this before I saw this
@esforever1790
Жыл бұрын
won't only guessing the meaning after the hiragana is revealed encourage just memorizing the pronunciation instead of the kanji?
@lesliemoore2267
3 жыл бұрын
Hey Matt. How many cards/day would you recommend to get the most out of this deck?
@humanbean3
3 жыл бұрын
yes
@koishisen
Жыл бұрын
Rtk >>>>
@JoshuaHMatos
11 ай бұрын
Forgive my ignorance here: When is a learner ready to start using this deck?
@retrofilmwork
11 ай бұрын
The best time is NOW. Matt teaches you how to learn kanji too (kind of) when learning vocab here. If you want to start immersing in Manga, Anime, Visual Novels or Light Novels, look no more than this deck or the TANGO N5 (this one teaches you grammar too).
@JoshuaHMatos
10 ай бұрын
THANK YOU! Will do, I picked up the deck.@@retrofilmwork
@marker52
3 жыл бұрын
How helpful will this will be for someone like me who's halfway through RRTK and can semi-comfortably pass JLPT N3? I'm worried that it won't be as helpful for me since it's a most frequent words list, which I probably already encountered the majority of by this point.
@aryalaashaya
3 жыл бұрын
yupp. I feel like this is for ABSOLUTE beginners. Even then personally I prefer WaniKani anyways to learn Kanji. Almost all of the Jouyou kanji and 6000 vocab to reinforce the readings in under 2 years is a neat deal. One might think that's slow but then again what's the hurry. Add some (or as much as you can) immersion on the side to reinforce the vocab and learn new ones as well and you're pretty good to go I think. I haven't tried RTK but it's very similar I think. So just continue with that. From what you said, I gather that you are already proficient in using it and making good progress. So why not try to reach the "finish line" with it?
@marker52
3 жыл бұрын
@@aryalaashaya Thanks so much for the advice. I definitely think I'm going to finish what I started.
@gaijincoordinator2922
3 жыл бұрын
Never been happier so become a patreon of someone
@Pawlakov1
2 жыл бұрын
is this any better than the Core2k/6k set?
@smzig
6 ай бұрын
The problem I'm running into with this is that the meaning is being associated with the reading rather than the kanji. There will be times I blank completely on the reading and meaning, then when the furigana/native speaker says the reading I get the meaning then. I recalled the right meaning but not via the kanji which is the whole point of the flash cards isn't it? I mean it's good I'm getting meaning from the actual Japanese word but the point of the deck is to learn the Kanji is it not? I mean I'm getting around it by only grading myself if I can recalled the meaning BEFORE revealing the reading but that's not following the directions of the deck.
@coolbrotherf127
6 ай бұрын
Even native speakers have trouble remembering readings when they are learning kanji as kids and they already understand most of the spoken vocabulary. They learn them throughout school and reading and watching age appropriate material. That's why immersion is also important to do while using while learning words. I was worried that I wouldn't be able to recognize the kanji or remember readings for the reasons you mentioned, but as I kept immersing, I got 10x better at recognizing kanji and remembering readings. The main point of the Anki cards is to prime your brain to recognize the words, but you still have to practice recognizing them in real native material before you've really learned them. Just trust that you will learn them even if they don't seem to stick immediately. Stay consistent and you will not fall. You got this 👍
@smzig
6 ай бұрын
@@coolbrotherf127 Thanks for the response. I guess I'm being too perfectionist when it comes to the anki deck. I'm only on day 6 or so of the deck so I'll try doing them to the instructions going forward. I keep forgeting how much the immersion part of the process helps.
@coolbrotherf127
6 ай бұрын
@@smzig Yeah while it feels bad not being perfect, making mistakes is just part of the process. Just take the small wins as they come, learning something is better than learning nothing.
@PequenaNoobAmaPudim
3 жыл бұрын
I accidentally learned it with brute force it hahaha technically I was supposed to be learning individual kanji and their readings in school, but since every new kanji had a little vocabulary list I just learned how to write those words instead. It was much easier and since it was slow (language course pace) I never noticed the curve was steep.
@joebonds3072
3 жыл бұрын
Flash cards don't work for me. What else can I do? HELP!!!!
@Skydreamer223
9 ай бұрын
I find very unlikely to know the meaning of a kanji word without to know how to read it, it happens with single kanjis but words its a different story
@なにいってんの-s5e
3 жыл бұрын
is it 4.50 a month or 4.50 to download it I cant understand maybe I am dumb af
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