Im watching this after the final episode and even when they are fighting they are perfect for each other.😭😭😭😢
@gorillaman1235
2 жыл бұрын
Does Mary actually gets beheaded
@charlotteechen
4 жыл бұрын
Fuck when Catherine told her she broke his heart I was so satisfied
@FolklorianR
2 жыл бұрын
Ikr! I felt kinda bad but I was so happy lol 😂
@dictatorialzukabert2917
4 жыл бұрын
To me,I think Mary just saw Conde as a safe place after what happened to her. While everyone is hating on Mary this season because of the way she treats Francis. I am with her. The only one I feel bad for here is Conde. Who truly loved her just to be stabbed and thrown aside. He wouldn't have wanted power if it wasn't for her,wavering between him and Francis. I just hated how after she stabbed him she just says I always loved you Francis. Excuse me..that pissed me off. It'd be better if she stabbed Conde cause he's a traitor to stop his acts. Which means putting her duty as Queen before her feelings. But not suddenly going back to Francis after. Just like with Bash. I love Mary but it's like she switches her feelings so easily. It's unrealistic.
@BB-lg4nn
4 жыл бұрын
Dude Conde obviously knew what he was getting into. She was married.
@dictatorialzukabert2917
4 жыл бұрын
@@BB-lg4nn i know that. She said i can offer you nothing. But what i'm discussing up there is the fact that mary changes her feelings so easily it's unrealistic.
@BB-lg4nn
4 жыл бұрын
Dictatorial Glambert lmao actually I’ve met people who are exactly like Mary. I agree though, Mary’s indecisiveness is annoying. Especially with Bash who truly loved her, she had to like both him and Francis. Like why pull two men against each other multiple times ?
@dictatorialzukabert2917
4 жыл бұрын
@@BB-lg4nn yeah i just felt bad for conde and bash. Am not big on conde but Mary said she loved him but she only wanted him at the time where she couldn't be near francis because she associated him with the assault. It was more like comfort and dependance. Also i don't even know if she liked Bash, she got with him because she wanted to save francis, the “I love you, but i love francis more ” really made me angry😂. If you love francis and want to get with Bash to save him, fine. But don't go like i love Bash now but then be like no wait i like francis😂. Then in season 3 she likes gideon, then somehow likes darnley then bothwell😂😂 girl😂.
@BB-lg4nn
4 жыл бұрын
Dictatorial Glambert LOLLL yeah she couldn’t make up her mind. Man I honestly thought she would actually be with Gideon. I actually thought they made a good pairing. I didn’t like Conde though since he was just always in the way of Mary and Francis. Like I felt he didn’t respect the married couple since he wanted to run away with her and expected what? To get married? To be together even though they couldn’t? Mary and Conde should’ve thought things through before going after one another’s love
@adainis246
2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, Francis was just being realistic in this scene. He constantly tells her that since she is a woman and queen, she could get killed for infidelity; that was just the way the world was at that time. She’s too sensitive to get what he’s saying through to her head and refusing to accept the truth of their lives. I understand this is just a phase she’s going through, but she doesn’t realize that he’s trying to save her
@kennakellon8852
2 жыл бұрын
True but Francis also did many stupid things that drover actions. Their relationship was toxic but mostly on Francis’ end. Mary was just sometimes too sensitive but he was plain toxic
@adainis246
2 жыл бұрын
@@kennakellon8852 it was toxic and intense mostly because of Narcisse. Because he was blackmailing not only Francis but Catherine and Mary as well. He didn’t want Mary to know because he feared she would be in danger. One wrong move and they would’ve been tried for regicide and attempted regicide
@user-vp5jq9um2y
2 жыл бұрын
@@kennakellon8852 Not true. Francis was not toxic. Your accusations against Francis are absolutely unfair. He did those stupid things because Narcissus was blackmailing him.
@kennakellon8852
2 жыл бұрын
@@user-vp5jq9um2y so he locked her in a tower because narcisse blackmailed him or because he didn’t want Mary to go? When Francis does something (especially for his country) he expects her to understand and yells at her when she doesn’t like she’s a petulant child. When she does something for her country, he calls her reckless and when she almost got away, he locked her up. He got upset that Mary got drunk and had a drunken kiss with bash (after he was looking over Mary’s feeling and concerns and wants when it came to his mistress) and slept with her again, expecting Mary to forgive him after a simple apology and beg, but when she slept with conde after being raped, he though of her as an adulterous whore and couldn’t stand to look at her. I understand that Mary also has her toxic moments, but to say that he’s not toxic at all after I have just a FEW examples of how he is is a bit ridiculous. Hope that didn’t come out rude, I’m merely trying to get my point across
@user-vp5jq9um2y
2 жыл бұрын
@@kennakellon8852 1. Francis locked Mary in the tower for her safety. Otherwise, she would have gone to Scotland, fallen into a trap and would have died. 2. I also didn't like that Francis slept with Olivia. It was an unsuccessful attempt to forget Mary. 3. Francis did not consider Mary a whore after she cheated on him with Conde. He himself allowed Mary to meet with Conde. Another thing is that Mary agreed to flee to Scotland with her lover. By fleeing to Scotland, she would humiliate Francis in front of all of Europe. Now this is a real betrayal.
@tarawrr20
4 жыл бұрын
This certainly foreshadows Mary’s ultimate end. She couldn’t control her impulses and it got her killed.
@elinanderzon2922
4 жыл бұрын
Also the fact that she followed her heart instead of her head in that time that was dangerous
@CarolAFollowerOfJesusChrist
Жыл бұрын
That isn't why she was beheaded ! Elizabeth set her up to get rid of her competition for the English throne when she died she said she regretted what she did to her cousin Mary
@sophiamorales6290
6 жыл бұрын
I love Francis and Mary and S2 BROKE MY HEART FOR THEM!
@yummylexipie
6 жыл бұрын
My god they literally fight every other episode. Every step of the way she found reason to fight with him
@debb481
Жыл бұрын
Thank goodness she and Francis have no fighting once they reunite; that time together is sweet, peaceful and loving! (And, of course, the same in those lovely scenes of them in heaven.) But her resentments over some of his past behavior seem to have bubbled over and led her to pick fights with him and also led, in part, to her attraction to conde. Overall, in the Reign community, lots of people blame Francis as much or more than she for the fact that she had an affair. Though I certainly dislike her behavior more, I think they both share blame for their problems.
@CarolAFollowerOfJesusChrist
Жыл бұрын
Francis is so just a gentleman most men would of use this to there advantage to make the woman jealous but he was so respectful and thought only of Marys feelings
@debb481
Жыл бұрын
His love for her was really deep and so forgiving, too! Their story is painful at times but ends well in large part due to the depth of his love. I loved both reunions; on earth and particularly the heavenly reunion! (note: Catherine refers to Francis's love for Mary as "relentless". That fits for me. He just never stops loving her.)
@CarolAFollowerOfJesusChrist
Жыл бұрын
@@debb481 yessss well said friend! I really hate how Mary treated Francis with conde.but how he just forgave her and truly looked to the future and even gave his life for hers.Like Lord I pray my husband is similar to Francis
@mariaguerrero3869
7 жыл бұрын
Francis you are the Best
@msniqua0622
8 жыл бұрын
i hate her when she is acting like this he dies and she wasted all this time with another. Even though what happened happened your still married
@MarieFT
8 жыл бұрын
I'mso agree with you ! I HATED HER ! she was basically asking to her husband the permission to having an affair with condé because she wanted to forget the fact that she was rapted ? What the Fuck is wrong with her ?
@Book_Dragon2562
7 жыл бұрын
With all due respect have either of you ever had to endure someone forcing themself on you? Have you ever seen that pain and grief and rage up close? Yes, she wasted valuable time and I'd say she's painfully aware of that fact now, but at the time she was just doing her best to get through the day in one piece. She was in the middle of a traumatic event that she couldn't see the end of...if she could have legitimately left him she would have. She didn't want to hurt him. She just wanted to put the rape behind her and thought separating herself from everything in her life before that night would help her start over. I'm not saying that she made great choices this season or that it didn't kill me to watch them this way but have some compassion for the horror that she went through and undstand why it took her time to find herself and her love again.
@MarieFT
7 жыл бұрын
TheCjma88 So to get better she needed to sleep with Condé that's what you sayin ? This is inacceptable ! What about Francis ? She was selfish period ! It was just as hard for her as for Francis ! She was rapped because of his actions ! There's nothing worst but to know that your actions got someone that you love Hurt ! She could just take some Time off from Francis she didn't need to go with another man
@Book_Dragon2562
7 жыл бұрын
I didn't say that I agreed with her choices. I said I understand why she thought that was what she needed to do. A lot of rape victims end up leaving the relationships they were in at the time and it's not always even because of blame but merely the daily reminders they can't live with anymore. They do whatever they have to in order to get through it and it's not because they are being selfish it's because they are desperate to feel something, anything good again. Every time she looked at Francis she relived it. She couldn't even hear him breathing beside her without dredging it all up. She could see the pain in his eyes well. It hurt him just as much to look at her. In our day and age those two people would simply go separate ways but back then that wasn't really an option. All they could do was seek the creation mcort and relief they couldn't find in each other elsewhere. She gave him that option. She told him she wanted him to be happy again and she meant that. She just couldn't imagine a day where she would ever be able to give him that again. People who go through traumatic events like rape...their brain forms triggers. Connections in their mind that instantly take them back there and because she couldn't separate Francis from the attack he became a trigger for her. Conde was someone outside of that experience. Being with him didn't hurt her the same way. Yes, Francis was in pain too and I sympathize with and understand him just as much but you are trying to make HER experience about him and his feelings and that's not right. His guilt and pain does not change what she went through or what that does to a person.
@kathye7204
7 жыл бұрын
Agreeee
@alexissmall6674
4 жыл бұрын
I hate how there relationship was this season it makes me so sad especially for Francis
@user-ke9bl9ge3j
6 жыл бұрын
mary annoyed me in this episode
@cynthiaalkhoury1102
5 жыл бұрын
marry annoyed me in this whole season🤷♀️
@bethany508
4 жыл бұрын
Its understandable, Francis became a trigger for her. A reminder of when she was raped and she felt like a failure of a wife and a queen. She couldn't just divorce him back then like in our era rape victims often end the relationships they once had as it becomes a trigger of what happened making them relive it. In my eyes it wasn't marys fault but condes, he used her at her most weakness and vulnerability.
@debb481
Жыл бұрын
Francis is just trying to protect Mary by bringing up the risk she's taking. She's overreacting. At this point, he cant win with her! It's amazing to me that, in spite of it all, they soon find their way back to one another. She returns to him with love and Francis's enduring love is incredible. They reunite twice, once on earth and then, many years later, in heaven. I sympathized with Mary a lot due to that brutal assault plus the loss of her baby. She's also young and those 2 really painful events occurred when she and Francis were on shaky ground. But she still should have chosen a better way to handle her pain than turning to conde and all the risk and hurt that followed. And I wish she'd treat Francis better.
@daisiejensen4818
7 жыл бұрын
Even if they agree to live their lives separately, it's still gonna be difficult because if they gonna be in relationships with others it would be difficult to move forward with them when they are still married to each other. And that Marie says she feels like she's drowning and she thinks an affair is gonna make the pain go away, then she's wrong and the affair is just a distraction. She is only distracting herself from the pain, and then it will might take even longer for to get better. And also I think it's a bit unrealistic that Marie was ready to have sex again only after a few months, because for a lot of rape victims it can take years for them to be able to have sex with someone.
@sarahs8295
7 жыл бұрын
Daisie Jensen totally agree
@evaoravcova5014
6 жыл бұрын
Disagree. It's your opinion and you're obviously not listening to what she's saying
@daisiejensen4818
6 жыл бұрын
I am listening to what she is saying, but I just don't agree with her. Don't say that I'm "obviously not listening" that's being rude. I am listening to what is going on, I just don't share the same opinion as you and Marie.
@mathsisdeadtomenow
5 жыл бұрын
its said that they turned something as serious as rape into a plot device, to justify Marys actions. I was so torn because I didn't want to blame Mary for doing what she needed to 'heal' but I also knew that rape victims dont 'heal' like that and this was just an excuse to make the plot go in the direction they wanted.
@cringecat3614
4 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with you, and I thought it was ridiculous to have a rape victim sleep with another man to "heal". Rape victims take time to recover from the trauma, as you say, they won't feel confortable or safe enough at first with their current partners, someone they know and trust, much less some outsider with whom they haven't had such intimacy.
@roses_in_sonder5217
6 жыл бұрын
I flippin love this show
@charlotteechen
4 жыл бұрын
I love Francis
@rachelsunqvist6430
6 жыл бұрын
This was my least favorite part of the show. Conde was hot... But give me a break. I wish it was a bit realistic instead of making it seem like she flopped between men so quickly
@elilove2837
5 жыл бұрын
GO Francis!!!💋💋
@AndreaGarcia-sj2hj
2 жыл бұрын
Si tan solo lo hubiera matado de alguna forma Francisco a Conde tantos problemas se abría ahorrado, yo sé que Maria lo hubiera perdonado tarde o temprano, lo amaba mucho
@ROZAYG
Жыл бұрын
i was so glad when Elizabeth took her head ....long overdue
@charlotteechen
4 жыл бұрын
She’s been annoying in that period
@atoetral9644
6 жыл бұрын
I wish she thought about this before she chose Darnley :(
@makenakelly2476
2 жыл бұрын
She had no choice with darnley she needed him.
@elinanderzon2922
4 жыл бұрын
I know what Mary did was wrong but Francis did give her permission
@valeriemangan2064
3 жыл бұрын
He gave her permission to be with Conde. He sure as hell did not give her permission to make plans to run off to Scotland to Conde, which would've caused a huge scandal, and massive upheaval, destroyed the French/Scottish alliance, and would almost have force Francis into accusing Mary of treason, and having her condemned by the Vatican (and if Francis didn't do it, Catherine sure as hell would've). Francis made a heartbreaking choice to try to help Mary, and she was ready to spit in his face and stab him in the back.
@elinanderzon2922
3 жыл бұрын
@@valeriemangan2064 I know but luckily she changed her mind after Conde's actions. Also I did not like Mary and Conde together
@debb481
Жыл бұрын
@valeriemangan The problem is that ninety five percent of what you said never happened! She didn't go to Scotland. Conde begged her to go but she wouldn't. He said it was because of her love for Francis. (And all of her actions actually bring her back to Francis.) Granted the affair was reckless. But I don't get why anyone blames her for something she did not do and then goes so far as to blame her for all the things that could have followed the thing she did not do! Mary's desire to escape everything associated with her rape, even France and Francis, led her to the verge of a stupid plan but she didnt follow through with that plan!
@VanessaFuller-sn7wv
Жыл бұрын
@@debb481 Conde never says that she didn't go to Scotland because of her love for Francis. He does say that she choose Francis over him during the coup because her love for him was greater. But he never says anything about her not going to Scotland due to that reason. But dismissing what Mary had planned to do and was stopped from doing by reality figuratively hitting her in the face with a brick feels illogical to me. Mary essentially stayed because of a combination of necessity and guilt. Had she stopped herself without any extenuating circumstances, I would concede your point. But that is not at all what happened in this case.
@Misandrist-hitler
Жыл бұрын
This made me hate Mary . He deserves better than her .
@valeriemangan2064
Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't necessarily say he deserves better then her, but what I would say is that he deserves better FROM her during this time of the show. She's just cold and mean and unpleasant, and I don't think its warranted. Yes, even taking into consideration that she went though a terrible trauma. Where did the Mary go that was so sad that she was letting Francis go because she loved him and "one of us should be happy". Apparently she decided at some point, "Eff you, I am the only one that should be happy!" A couple of episodes later, and Mary treats him like complete garbage because he raises accurate concerns about her barely concealed affair with his cousin (and rival to his throne), and apparently has the audacity to say he wouldn't be overly enthusiastic to save her lover.
@reginacorrea14
7 жыл бұрын
background song?
@gentleheart7107
6 ай бұрын
He was just realistic.
@mariaarroyo1096
6 жыл бұрын
What is the instrumental ?
@leonarddaniels5452
Жыл бұрын
I 🤔 just hated too SEE them fight....... The Love between them is just so REAL.... But there Responsibility to there Country was just so Strong, u had to put it first..... Period.
@valeriemangan2064
Жыл бұрын
Responsibilities to their countries isn't what is causing the rift in this scene though. Mary's desire to take Francis cousin as her lover is.
@mariaarroyo1096
6 жыл бұрын
What is the soundtrack ?
@rutabaqazi8858
9 ай бұрын
Am I the only one that felt like Conde used Mary? I mean she went through the kind of trauma that really messes up a person. She wasn't really in the right frame of mind. An honourable man would have distanced himself from her. Her choices in these episodes are definitely trauma responses.
@candela9314
4 жыл бұрын
Non ho mai capito l’avversione ottusa di mare ,senza buon senso ,vendicativa è dura,mi rende nervoso
@candela9314
5 жыл бұрын
Come fanno a “litigare” così controllati e con quel tono di voce ,li invidio molto beati loro.
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