Hey! Mistake in the video, please read the description for the correction.
@oshabot1646
11 ай бұрын
Porky's second coming
@PorkyMinch
11 ай бұрын
i s a w t h a t
@oshabot1646
11 ай бұрын
@@PorkyMinch hi porky
@mr.j3rs3y
11 ай бұрын
Praise be to our one true savior, the roughest, toughest, cleverest, most troublemaking boy ever, Master Porky Minch
@Ablaire
11 ай бұрын
Church of Porky 🛐🙏🙏🧎
@rainbowmacaroon9189
11 ай бұрын
I can't believe they nailed Ness to a cross
@timmyjimmy7413
4 ай бұрын
Smash bros fans saw PK fire as heresy.
@lazyavatar2479
4 ай бұрын
How else was he supposed to become sans
@Annex_canada
11 ай бұрын
I like to think of New Pork City as a sort of antithesis of the Garden of Eden; where at the beginning of the world, the only location humans resided on was dedicated to nature, peace, and prosperity, whereas at the end of the world, the venue is dedicated to sublunary, violence, and ecocide.
@CombustableLemon
11 ай бұрын
According to the manual, they also killed Giygas on Sunday. Christian Mother fans (including me) keep taking Ws
@ChiaraSaillen
10 ай бұрын
Same
@MomazosDoritos
4 ай бұрын
MF really died by the power.of prayers 😂
@VreenAlien
Ай бұрын
Matthew 19:26 With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
@Olistar255
11 ай бұрын
Neat thing you didn't mention is how Ness' Nightmare is called "Ness's demon" in the japanese version, so Ness basically exorcizes himself from the inside of his mind to be free of his evil, "sinful" side! very fun vid and we could probably even find even more parallels, for example with how important faith (not necessarily in god, but simply the concept of pure trust without proof) is throughout the entire game :]
@drewster237
11 ай бұрын
As a Christian and a mother fan, I see this as an absolute win! Great video :)
@sonicmaster206
11 ай бұрын
fr fr
@CombustableLemon
11 ай бұрын
Fr fr fr fr fr
@citrine4501
11 ай бұрын
fr fr fr fr fr
@Skelecruce
11 ай бұрын
fr fr fr fr
@getbuckposse
10 ай бұрын
W God
@minermole101
11 ай бұрын
This Ned Flanders ending reminds me that when I was a kid, as the Catholic that I am, I went to church as I would any other Sunday. And I saw that the priest we had that day, legit no joke, looked like Ned Flanders from The Simpsons.
@minimtomato
11 ай бұрын
Thank you for being someone who can provide an unbiased yet informative view on religion. As a Christian who's against organized religion, I found this video to be fascinating. Please keep on doing what you're doing.
@keenankersh7944
8 ай бұрын
Yeah, even for someone unreligious such as myself, it's really informative and brings a pretty interesting new perspective to some of the game I love so much.
@HeyItIsMichal
8 ай бұрын
I've personally thought that the Happy Happiest Cult is more of a critique of cults rather than religion itself.
@SomeRando92
26 күн бұрын
What is organized religion, but a cult?
@shhhhhg
24 күн бұрын
@@SomeRando92organised religion isn’t a cult at all lol
@jimothycool
11 ай бұрын
Great vid. The whole ending sequence of Earthbound is so great, probably the main reason Earthbound is my favourite game. The once Upbeat and Lively soundtrack stripped away by these Cold and empty sounds in the Cave of the past. And the sheer Lovecraftian Terror of the Giygas music + visuals. The Organs coming in when you pray hits so much harder because of that. Can't think of another game that has conveyed the feeling of being Saved by some higher power in a moment of desperation like that.
@skorupigo5544
9 ай бұрын
It’s the Pokémon guy
@augustumbras8071
11 ай бұрын
Game theory is ness actually THE SON
@hazel2759
11 ай бұрын
I think Ness is more akin to the pilgrim figure then Messiah. He goes a quest of betterment externally and internally, while Christ figures are generally written as already perfect.
@MonkeyNess
11 ай бұрын
His journey is really a cross between a Christ figure and the classic "Hero" of the hero's journey archetype.
@lolnino8511
8 ай бұрын
Something that always Stood out to me: PSI = Spiritual Gifts Happy Happyism Cult: Sins that you desire thinking they will make you happier New Pork City: Praising the evil and being manipulated And Generally Mother having an overall value towards connection and family and friends, to never give up. to believe in one another, When Hinawa’s spirit said “You’re not Porky’s robot, you’re our son!”
@lyzhongo5766
6 ай бұрын
I think Pork city is more about dismeassured consumerism and a critique to that type of lifestyle. Also is emphazised to be the twisted toybox of a child-minded dictator. Psi I think is morea bout the power of mind, you know... Cuz of the psychic aspects... I don't think religion is involved at all.
@Jack574.
11 ай бұрын
Uploaded on the sabbath as well, respect
@Qwerty-8644
11 ай бұрын
Ana is my favorite character for she is the only one who is explicitly stated to be christian. other then that very cool and interesting video, makes you think. 😀 P.S love to see this channel growing!
@artemis_studios6555
11 ай бұрын
My two fav things: Christianity and Earthbound. Weird...
@tempest6027
11 ай бұрын
the number seven is generally a common theme in video games. seven star spirits, seven chaos emeralds... there's probably more examples but that's off the top of my head
@okatotf
11 ай бұрын
Hi Tempest :)
@churupinha3510
11 ай бұрын
Does that mean porky is judas
@DoctorMario606
10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@dansmith1661
9 ай бұрын
He was with you at the beginning.
@unknown6390
6 ай бұрын
Honestly its not a super hard stretch.
@timmyjimmy7413
4 ай бұрын
@timjohnathanKind of debatable weather Porky regretted betraying Ness or not. He must atleast still think Ness is a decent person from how he shows adventures about him in the theater, or how he hangs on to Ness's yoyo so desperately. Also in the Japanese version it is shown that after overthrowing the happy happy cult, Porky asks Ness to be friends again, but Ness just doesn't say anything, causing Porky to run away probably in fear/regret. There is definitely an argument for both sides. Seeing how all of what I just said could also be interpreted differently.
@christophercarrasco154
11 ай бұрын
That Pollyanna song hits different after this video. When I first listened to it, I was like "this seems like a really Catholic-y song... but it's Japan, so it's probably just talking about believing in general" (that album also brought in a famous Catholic choir to sing the melody song, but I shrugged it off). ....So imagine my surprise when I found out that Ness is a Christ-Figure. I was like "I KNEW IT".
@ostrelephant
11 ай бұрын
as someone who isn't religious, amazing video
@videorelaxant2780
11 ай бұрын
I feel like this ones obvious hence why it wasnt in the video. but is Queen Mary meant to be an allusion Virgin Mary? Shes the queen of a heavenly like place and a maternal figure to the cast.
@magoctwins9251
11 ай бұрын
Hey! I noticed that you said it takes 7 prayers to defeat Giygas, but it actually takes 9 prayers to defeat him. Just thought I'd point that out!
@MonkeyNess
11 ай бұрын
The input as far as I know is only 7 times, with a total of 9 prayer cutscenes for the additional ones from the player.
@e2011ugdia
6 ай бұрын
1:56 which is probably the invisible man from moonside
@Donkey_Swong64
2 ай бұрын
This is why i find it so hard to explain to my firends why I love the mother series so much... it takes a mirror to the world and says thats you!
@steel7399
11 ай бұрын
0:51 Her? nah jk i agree giygas is an absolute QUEEN
@MonkeyNess
11 ай бұрын
Found some text in the game recently suggesting Giygas is female!
@steel7399
11 ай бұрын
Wait, really? I'd be interested in seeing
@MonkeyNess
11 ай бұрын
@@steel7399 said by a guy in a hat in a house in west-Threed!
@BubbleyGorl
11 ай бұрын
@@MonkeyNess I feel like giygas had a gender before but since his/her body and mind were destroyed I have a feeling that the gender was also lost to
@mell7249
11 ай бұрын
@@MonkeyNessI wouldn't trust that guy in all honesty. He has nothing to do with Giygas so there's no wau he's know.
@tobexomega
11 ай бұрын
Neon Genesis EarthBound
@unknown6390
6 ай бұрын
Watching all your videos really make me more and more convinced to the artistic merrit of Earthbound and the Mother series. For a game so humble and down to earth it really does have a story of biblical proportions. You could even say Mother is a religion?
@GarrySummer1700123Summer
11 ай бұрын
This is so cool to see a video on this. Keep up the good work
@PorkyMinch
2 ай бұрын
You can never unsee the devil in the entrance the devil's machine
@broly1059
11 ай бұрын
7 sanctuaries? Did bro play the game
@MonkeyNess
11 ай бұрын
How on earth did I make this mistake. Genuinely a huge oversight on my part. Definitely conflated it with the 7 needles from Mother 3, which still works with what I was saying despite being applied incorrectly. Edit: Corrected this in the description. Thanks for pointing it out to me!
@brothers_of_nod
11 ай бұрын
I quite like this video, many thanks.
@grantsuperkitty9631
11 ай бұрын
wow I love the video! Ness = Jesus
@ExaltedUriel
11 ай бұрын
I only noticed this during my most recent replay of Mother 3 but, in addition to the vague religion of the Light and Dark Dragons, at some point during the search for Hinawa and the twins if you talk to Jackie he'll drop a capital G mention of a singular God. I don't remember the line exactly but it's something like "I know God must be watching over them." I don't know what the original Japanese line was like but it caught me by surprise.
@Barveth
2 ай бұрын
The Coil Snake isn't the "first" enemy in Mother 2. At the start you can also encounter the Runaway Dog and the Spiteful Crow. But well, the very first enemy of Mother 2 would actually be Starman Jr. since you fight him along Buzz-Buzz in the very first battle.
@MonkeyNess
2 ай бұрын
You fight any of those enemies prior to Starman Jr. Coin Snake is a likely first enounter nonetheless.
@Barveth
2 ай бұрын
@@MonkeyNess "Likely", but not at all.
@MonkeyNess
2 ай бұрын
@@Barveth not at all? There’s very much a chance the first enemy that spawns outside Ness’ house is a Coil Snake. Literally 1/3 chance.
@Barveth
2 ай бұрын
@@MonkeyNess what I meant is that Coil Snake isn't the "first" enemy all the time. If you play Super Mario Bros NES 100 times, 100 times the first enemy on 1-1 is gonna be a Goomba. However in Earthbound is not the same. The first enemy a player encounter might not always be the snake.
@MonkeyNess
2 ай бұрын
@@Barveth yeah that’s why I say “likely” and not “for sure” in the video.
@DragonKazooie89
10 ай бұрын
You should also listen to the first few verses of “Wisdom of the World”. I picture someone going to a place of worship when I hear it.
@chickensandwich9977
11 ай бұрын
This was weird As a Christian, i disagreed with a lot of stuff (of course XD) But i found a lot of what you said interesting I had no idea Paula actually prayed to God in the Japanese version Or the changed sprite work And although the supposed implications feel farfetched, I could still find some connections in the story telling Very fun video
@SoshuTheGnome
6 ай бұрын
5:40 a theory or maybe not. just a cool connection i found. (spoilers for mother 3) "jesus going back in time" and "ness traveling to that nowhere place" are connected. that place is also connected to (or is even the same place as) the final area in mother 3. where the world gets an end of time type of situation and is possibly being reborn. humanity is probably no more by that point and that's pretty much what happens at the end of time according to different religions.
@pookiegaming75
11 ай бұрын
Nesses Nightmare being at the center of the sea of eden and magicant as a whole may be based on lucifers placement in a frozen lake in hell and the divine comedy as a whole
@gabbls_
7 ай бұрын
They also forgot to remove the crosses on the casket sprites in EarthBound. The localization team wasn't really that observernt as they also forgot the red cross in Dungeon Man.
@MonkeyNess
7 ай бұрын
“Wasn’t that observant” doesn’t seem fair, it was a really small team with a lot of game to scrub.
@gabbls_
7 ай бұрын
@@MonkeyNess well sure, but I don't mean that in a bad way. Everyone is prone to mistakes. I was more of just pointing it out.
@getbuckposse
10 ай бұрын
Christ is King
@VLuddd
11 ай бұрын
Good video 👍
@toddbegin5217
11 ай бұрын
Uh…9 prayers to best giygas and 8 sanctuary locations. Have you played it?
@MonkeyNess
11 ай бұрын
Read description.
@moreedcola6837
9 ай бұрын
Ness became a robot for our sins
@dansmith1661
9 ай бұрын
Now I see where that apple came from. It was such a throw away line meant to mean something.
@MonkeyNess
9 ай бұрын
The Apple of Enlightenment is such a mysterious element of the game. Need to take a deep dive into it sometime!
@e2011ugdia
6 ай бұрын
Case and point: you can defeat entire eldritch horrors with the power of god (love, and potentially anime?)
@chickensandwich9977
11 ай бұрын
I always thought of the Mani Statue as some interpretation of Mollock for some reason
@MonkeyNess
11 ай бұрын
Can absolutely see that!
@getbuckposse
10 ай бұрын
Pretty sure that the Clintons have their own Mani Mani statue on the island.
@TheRealSuperKirby
11 ай бұрын
I dont see happism as being a critique of religion, because even with a statue it doesnt worship an actual god, but just an idea, and while there are religions focused more on ideas than gods, they arent the ones that are usually refered to when it comes to "critiquing religion" Very unexpected but cool video.
@rhyano_
29 күн бұрын
The biggest blunder in this video by a LANDSLIDE for me is the Mani Mani Statue. Simply brushing over the thing as "golden statue with horns like the bull in Exodus" feels like it doesn't recieve the full media literacy I've seen you dish out in your other amazing videos. Maybe something about how the Mani Mani Statue is a literal golden statue that brings out the sinful nature of those who listen to it's call, those who "idolize" it. It's interesting because among the commandments, one prohibits the idolatry of anything but god, and worshipping the Mani Mani Statue is literally straying from that command. What does that make of Happy Happyism, who worship Carpainter, who is worshipping the Mani Mani Statue? We hear from Monotoli that Giygas can also communicate to the worshipper. What does that make of Giygas? Just felt like a lot of major opportunities for talking points that got brushed over.
@BlastTheBat
11 ай бұрын
Thought the most obvious thing is Mother could be meant to mean Mother Earth, a goddess found in many different faiths.
@getbuckposse
10 ай бұрын
There is no “mother”, only The Father and The Son.
@BlastTheBat
10 ай бұрын
I said many religions have an Earth Mother goddess. Never said that was true of the religion of anyone in this discussion.
@getbuckposse
10 ай бұрын
I said the truth, that there is only The Father and The Son. I never said that you said that it was “true of the religion of anyone in this discussion”.
@SoapheadPog
11 ай бұрын
Thanks for not actually being biased.
@EW_2007-m9j
11 ай бұрын
Amen 🙏
@RCK_Gaming42069
11 ай бұрын
Hey, at 0:52 you refer to giygas as a her. Why? Love your vids btw
@MonkeyNess
11 ай бұрын
Found some in-game text recently that suggests Giygas is female!
@RCK_Gaming42069
11 ай бұрын
@@MonkeyNess really? Where?
@MonkeyNess
11 ай бұрын
@@RCK_Gaming42069 In Threed! Search for a hearted comment on this video by Thane Gaming, there he posts the full text!
@RCK_Gaming42069
11 ай бұрын
@@MonkeyNessI just read it, that’s really cool! Thanks for enlightening me on this subject.
@fedpostah
7 ай бұрын
One of the biggest enemies you have is a statue made of gold that corrupts people wherever its' influence is allowed to grow, just like the golden calf of the erev rav in Moses' time. Is Mother an abrahamic masterpiece or what?
@dr.metroid6119
7 ай бұрын
Why does her Bible have desert rocks or city buildings at sunset/sunrise? That's a really weird cover.
@Otto_Von_Beansmarck
3 ай бұрын
wait does this also mean that sans is a Christ like figure?
@Lucas-db2jq
11 ай бұрын
You are giving Game Theory a run for their money.
@MonkeyNess
11 ай бұрын
>Isn't even a theory
@popular_dollars
11 ай бұрын
What you said about the pun in Latin is inaccurate. Latin makes a phonemic distinction between long and short vowels, and this is often overlooked when modern people teach Latin poorly. With them restored, evil is malum, and apple is mālum. It's still a pun, but they're not homophones like you say.
@almeidachannel7121
11 ай бұрын
Nice Video ! Sub & Big Like ! And love retro EarthBound games !
@CalebCarterY2K
11 ай бұрын
I need a signed copy of the Bible
@stevie5494
3 ай бұрын
why talk about mother 3 in a mother 2 video knowing half the fanbase hasnt played mother 3 and is now forced to skip an otherwise good source of background noise
@MonkeyNess
3 ай бұрын
I’m not perfect, I’m still working at making better videos. Sorry if that was disappointing to you. I am also not under the impression "half the fanbase" hasn't played Mother 3, that's not remotely true.
@stevie5494
3 ай бұрын
@@MonkeyNesslike sorry if my comment hurt u lowkey forgot anyone interacts w these. tuff video very well made lack of perfection aside. also gang sorry if this is how u found out but novody is playing mother 3 until it gets localized. it could be the greatest game made ever n im still not gonna touch a fan translation & i dont think im the only one to feel like that
@BubbleyGorl
11 ай бұрын
Great video!. but alot of these moments can be taken out of context lol
@MonkeyNess
11 ай бұрын
Not saying all these things are intentional references to religions, but explaining the series’ use of archetypal storytelling to appeal to more people due to their cultural resonance.
@toadwarriorxd3305
11 ай бұрын
Did you pray today?
@steel7399
11 ай бұрын
buzz buzz died for our sins
@etherwestley2579
11 ай бұрын
Do you know of any other games where you have to beat the bad guy by praying?
@MonkeyNess
11 ай бұрын
Though not *quite* praying, Paper Mario 2 comes to mind as a similar kind of final boss.
@etherwestley2579
11 ай бұрын
@@MonkeyNess of course but I don't remember that in Paper Mario 2 the game asks the player to pray too
@redshell9205
11 ай бұрын
As someone in a Christian school but is atheist (kinda) I approve with this video.
@D1st0rted666
11 ай бұрын
i concur
@artemis_studios6555
11 ай бұрын
As someone in an atheist world but is Christian (very) I also approve of this video. Except the Mother Mary part (darn Catholics)
@lilythebluespheresfan2897
11 ай бұрын
Dedede, I think that is called agnostic
@redshell9205
11 ай бұрын
@@lilythebluespheresfan2897 ah thank you I’ve been needing a word for it. Thank you.
@BK-ey9mg
11 ай бұрын
@@artemis_studios6555 Don't forget, Mary is not only Our Blessed Mother, but the Mother of Our Lord, Jesus Christ. Send your prayers to Mary and she will speak to Jesus on your behalf. 🙏
@MisterEarthBound_
11 ай бұрын
This guys talking crazy talk
@MonkeyNess
11 ай бұрын
Stop impersonating me please, as everyone knows I am the TRUE Mr. EarthBound.
@mell7249
11 ай бұрын
That's just what Mother fans are like man
@edwes66
5 ай бұрын
As a Pagan animist myself heres how i interpret it this The intro where you see flying saucers the lazer having an intentional aspect of a vein, a root, a thunder at the sametime you see the title: "giygas strikes back" in jaoanese The saucer represents sperm cells, as if Gyigas is coming back to reincarnation again Gyigas represents the all seeing eye Odin/Horus/God/skyfather In the Final Boss is the symbol of the Book of genesis but in reverse in backwards, but the book of genesis in the bible is inspired from a Pagan mythology. The garden of eden represents the womans womb Adam and eve represents the baby The snake represents the umbilical cord The life tree represents the placenta The baby obtains knowledge from the Odin/horus/God/skyfather before reincarnating and born again, when in the book of genesis God expulse them from the garden, it means they are entered the real world now they need to wear clothes and fight life by yourself that is the Pagan religion where the bible was inspired from its a reincarnation story In the Game Mother 2 giygas is portraid as both a Odin/horus/God like deity and attempting of being reincarnated and you need to prevent it and stop it. Just like the name of the game Mother and the logo of the planet earth in the portrait it represents earth as Mothernature and fertility, the intro where you see flying saucers striking a lazer to the city, the Lazer having an appearance of a Root a Vein from the sky to the earth a reference of thunder (Thor) it represents the sperm cells with the tittle "giygas strikes back" is interpreted in my point of view as representing the end of a sexual intercourse, the flying saucers represents the sperm cells invading yes Motherearth attempting to make God himself reincarnate in mother. That as a Pagan myself thats what i interpret it
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