The replicant was a removed SC2 Protoss unit that was introduced during Heart of the Swarm beta. It was a cool idea, but definitely just broken. What is the best ultimate army composition you can think of?
replicants, simulate those SCVs and build a Terran army
@shapowlow
11 ай бұрын
I think they dont allow workers to build anything
@titleatptitleinsertcoordin3701
11 ай бұрын
Everybody gangsta untill you see protoss, zerg and terran coming for yo ass😊
@Monolitvennik
11 ай бұрын
@@shapowlowтогда почему они могут атаковать нанося урон? Это не иллюзия, значит ксм могли чинить и строить как в 1 части
@plunderersparadise
11 ай бұрын
@@shapowlowneural parasited workers can build buildings of other races
@niklaswalgenbach6384
11 ай бұрын
I Had a Game where the zerg used an infestor to Steal one of my scv. After that he biuld a Base and after all he biulds Tanks😅
@Danymok
11 ай бұрын
"Unfortunately it was cut in development" Don't you mean *"Thank God it was cut"* ?
@venomdragon7853
11 ай бұрын
nah we need more unique gimmicks
@assassin6329
11 ай бұрын
im glad it didnt make it into the main game. it would be cool if custom games had access to it tho. like tick a box to play with weird shit we can't fit into the real game@@venomdragon7853
@KabertaKneeGr0wCxntman
11 ай бұрын
no
@deafdanny6299
8 ай бұрын
For real..... thank fuck
@snowdrop9810
11 ай бұрын
Something including ghosts to counter every single spellcaster and siegetanks to counter terran units propably.
@ProbeSC2
11 ай бұрын
Carrier viper ghost??? Could be decent
@snowdrop9810
11 ай бұрын
@@ProbeSC2 yeah carriers are 100% going to be the bulk of the army and abusing replicators to get spellcasters seems insane.
@Name-ru1kt
11 ай бұрын
@@snowdrop9810nahhh. Bc have more hp and more dps than carriers and have two abilities
@rustyshackleford3396
11 ай бұрын
@@Name-ru1ktBC are way more annoying then carriers yeah
@Decorat1on
11 ай бұрын
@@rustyshackleford3396replicant can only turn into tier 2 units
@KitKatNisa
11 ай бұрын
"Unfortunately it was cut" I wouldn't call that "unfortunate". It was a unit capable of creating a clone of any enemy unit, but stronger, unless that enemy was already full research.
@raptorate2872
10 ай бұрын
Yeah but you couldn't mass them. They were expensive and heavy on the supply much like how disruptors are now
@Templarfreak
11 ай бұрын
another smaller reason for why they removed this unit is that there was essentially no way to balance it. it pretty much *had* to be an expensive unit to be balanced, but making it expensive also makes it kinda pointless to replicate a lot of different units, and many other units to replicate would also be pointless on principle as well, like any Protoss unit, pretty pointless to replicate Medivacs, Roaches, Hydralisks, Overlords, it'd have to be specifically made to be unable to replicate Motherships otherwise you could just have several Motherships which would be horrifying, and a lot of basic features you would expect from a unit like this, such as replicating workers, also did not work, because some abilities were specifically disabled for the sake of balance such as worker building.
@TheAzorg
11 ай бұрын
What about single player campaign? Why not enabling it there? For shit and giggles...
@Templarfreak
11 ай бұрын
@@TheAzorgi think maybe the campaign itself must not have been very deep in development yet by the time they cut the unit so its data may have never made its way into the campaign mod, plus LOTV's options and customization is pretty stripped back compared to WOL, although pretty on-par with HOTS, so it's also possible that the Replicant simply couldnt fit in the design space they set up for the LOTV campaign. plus Dark Archons already exist in the campaign anyway so the Replicant would just be a worse option and redundant
@The_SOB_II
8 ай бұрын
I wonder if they ever considered making the replicants' morph cost resources and also having a cap on the number of replicants you can have. They probably did.
@kingpet
11 ай бұрын
For those wondering why this unit is cut. Suppose in midgame your opponent has a tier 3 unit (thora/bcs/carriers/etc) Suppose you built nothing but replicated (I recall they are cheap) Suppose all of your replicant suddenly become an army or thors/bcs/ultras/carriers at the fraction of cost and supply. Now you see why it was cut.
@L3monsta
10 ай бұрын
For the record it costed 200/200/4, make it too cheap it's broken as hell, make it to expensive it's useless. It's really a dumb unit design and seems like they didn't have any ideas at the time they just liked the model and wanted to put it in the game one way or another. (which it made it in as the ms core and later on as the disruptor)
@The_SOB_II
8 ай бұрын
I think they definitely could have found a set of mechanics to balance it, but I feel in the end it's just too cheap (in the gameplay sense). It just doesn't feel good to have your army copied, no matter if the opponent spent more resources or not.
@mEtil5656
11 ай бұрын
Vipers with toss would be cool, also just emp the ghosts
@user-bw8ny3qg7i
11 ай бұрын
Even it's fully upgraded it still weaker than the infestor. The infestor "take away" enemy unit during fight, which means -1 unit for the opponent, and +1 unit for yourself. That's a 2 units difference, only costing 150 gas and 2 supply!
@ProbeSC2
11 ай бұрын
For sure, but neural also only lasts a short period of time, and it is very easy to just target the infestor.
@stixinst5791
11 ай бұрын
I mean compared to the nuke it is a shippy spell
@gaara5124
11 ай бұрын
It looks like a disruptor that we have now lol
@ProbeSC2
11 ай бұрын
Yeah they tend to just reuse old skins in new ways.
@Templarfreak
11 ай бұрын
this model itself is like, i think the 4th or 5th generation (disruptor is 5th or 6th) of one particular model Blizzard iterated over many times. this model was iterated over so many times that one branch of its ancestry became the current Sentry model, and another branch became the Oracle.
@MrMimj
11 ай бұрын
@@Templarfreak also mothership core?
@ghoraxe9000
10 ай бұрын
That one hellbat wasn't going to hell alone XD
@chiefexxor5069
11 ай бұрын
Well as a terran you let them clone your stuff and then disengage so their energy runs out and its a waste of supply kinda like a swarm host. But it would certainly be a bio army anyway vs protoss
@dustincintron1682
11 ай бұрын
Holy crap, never heard of that
@X3MgamePlays
10 ай бұрын
They didn't even know how to balance it. That is why it was cut.
@celestrius9197
10 ай бұрын
I think this would have been fine tbh as long as it was late game tech requirement (requires robo bay and Templar archives maybe?) And is expensive per unit. Probably pair that with a CD relevance similar to swarm hosts?? Like if you got maxed out siege tanks for 15 seconds every 30 seconds and that isn't counting the 2 second siege mode AND they cost more than a siege tank... you'd have to use them well or could be easily overwhelmed due to your standing army being far weaker than the enemies in general. Which oh hey look at that.. that's how swarm hosts already work. It might have been tight but it certainly would have been balanceable
@mr_oziv1368
10 ай бұрын
balance would be a level upgrade for the unit to get the upgrades of other factions or reduce the damage, health and abilities etc🤔
@GarethRiffStevens
11 ай бұрын
I am loyal to Sc1 remastered only.
@Anon_Fox
11 ай бұрын
This would give back balance back to Protoss in the highest level of the game competition. It would be a shit show in the ladder tho lol. Coming from a Protoss main.
@ProbeSC2
11 ай бұрын
Nah it would be so broken :D
@Name-ru1kt
11 ай бұрын
@@ProbeSC2it could work if they removed its ability to become spellcasters and either like a percentage of the strength or can’t work on t3 units
@KingOfBlades27
11 ай бұрын
Would be literally just game breaking. The idea itself is cute but it would create terrible gameplay.
@theisekaiking2399
11 ай бұрын
@Name-ru1kt it would only effect pvt or pvz cause otherwise you have those units already? And those two races will just build what they want anyway
@hanneswiggenhorn2023
11 ай бұрын
I think it would be very situational because in general terran and zerg value more less valuable units over few valuable ones, so protoss might not profit too much from it. Like I can't really see many tactics this unit could hard counter, for example terran bio would be practically unaffected and I think for terran mech 8 out of 10 times another immortal would be better than a tank or even thor for protoss
@Trubripes
10 ай бұрын
Carrier Infesters. Like broodlord corruptor infester except better.
@GruppeSechs
10 ай бұрын
The fact the replicant didn't die when the tank did might have had a little to do with why it was cut.
@alphazergling9255
11 ай бұрын
Transforming into battle cruisers would be waaaaay too good
@pandaclysm205
11 ай бұрын
Oof protoss. The favorite child
@justinkemp4019
11 ай бұрын
Its so op, i played it in a custom campaign
@DuongTran-mm2rt
11 ай бұрын
Remind me of a custom campaign call replicate. Good CC
@adorabomber123
11 ай бұрын
Feels like it would’ve have been balanced well if the replication time changed based on the power. Like a marine is 60 seconds but a Thor is 5. Something like that with a cooldown on replication could easily balance this
@juanfisi
11 ай бұрын
It sounds as the most broken shit ever
@PoH42069
11 ай бұрын
It would be seige tanks most of the time. Terran would just mass marines to counter it, I'd guess
@a1tung
11 ай бұрын
Mass marines counter to siege tanks 😂😂
@Rylockx
11 ай бұрын
@@a1tungI think he means mass marines so they can’t copy a siege tank
@BOMBON187
9 ай бұрын
I never understand why they don't keep scrapped units for single player campaign like the Warhound.
@tremolo6940
10 ай бұрын
Marine/medivac every game
@eyallev
11 ай бұрын
banglings ...
@11eargyle
11 ай бұрын
Am i the only one that thinks it could have not rediculous resource cost like 175/125, and have the replicate ability be a cool down based ability Unit has no Attack but you activate ability, then for 10 seconds or so your can pick a unit to replicate, Heroic/massive units are immune
@chrisigop4471
11 ай бұрын
it should have 50percent life replica
@balbarith45
11 ай бұрын
So basically a protoss version of the Imitator from Plants vs Zombies.
@ProbeSC2
11 ай бұрын
PvZ has revolutionised PvZ
@balbarith45
11 ай бұрын
@ProbeSC2 ..............dammit I just realized that. I'm guessing the Terran is Crazy Dave?
@edwardsinger7644
11 ай бұрын
The first time I played Pokemon Blue, I used my Master Ball on a Ditto because the anime had me thinking it was the most powerful. But its stats were shit, could only transform once per battle and only had 5pp per move. If Blizzard were able to nerf the replicants in some way they wouldn't be crazy op
@theisekaiking2399
11 ай бұрын
I don't think I would change anything
@theisekaiking2399
11 ай бұрын
Terrans will still build Marine Maurader Medivac Mine, and zergs would get hydra Ling bane
@TheLostPrimarch2nd
10 ай бұрын
Let's see in protoss vs protoss the fool who builds a Mothership.
@user-om2xs3xn6j
11 ай бұрын
Probably still just Mass bio
@dylanlafreniere3479
11 ай бұрын
All I see are change ups. You thought you were fighting a Protoss until you run into a enemy command center or hatchery across map.
@jonathanroque5326
11 ай бұрын
Dafaq, this is so OP
@ProbeSC2
11 ай бұрын
Yeah extremely
@chloesmith4065
10 ай бұрын
It was still a campaign unit, no? Its still used in some custom maps
@ProbeSC2
10 ай бұрын
Pretty sure it wasn't in any of the official campaigns, but yes the unit is still in the editor and so it wouldn't surprise me if various custom maps use it.
@verkus5110
11 ай бұрын
Zerg and terran doesnt change bane ling and bio for protos thats an oof tho
@tomb7704
11 ай бұрын
I think a unit that can Snipe enemy units from far away dealing huge damage that has high mobility, can turn invisible and hey why not, call in nukes. Nahh sounds a bit strong, they’ll never put it in.
@asdqwe4427
10 ай бұрын
Ultimate combo? Still probably mass carrier
@ProbeSC2
10 ай бұрын
I do remember back in HOTS a zerg player stole a probe and built a zerg/protoss army. It still lost to mass tempest :D
@LudwigvanBeethoven2
11 ай бұрын
Interesting
@Faayde
11 ай бұрын
Viper
@ricordandoilpassato1677
11 ай бұрын
Makes no sense story wise since protoss should look down on primitive terran tech
@Enuelle
11 ай бұрын
Op
@zentraidee9701
11 ай бұрын
Cool but too epic😂
@ross.neuberth
11 ай бұрын
If this means you get 3/3 version wouldn’t you be praying for someone to rush carriers or battle cruisers?
@ProbeSC2
11 ай бұрын
Nah I think it means abilities.
@FinoClips
11 ай бұрын
Drone copy and make a hatchery
@Unglued98
11 ай бұрын
Yeah couse protoss is lacking splash damage wtf?!!
@ProbeSC2
11 ай бұрын
Well considering it has an early model of the disruptor, we probably wouldn't have gotten that unit.
@UntamedSLong
11 ай бұрын
This is my problem with protoss, they're supposed to be advanced and powerful but in game they are fucking weak
@BaKa60gaming
11 ай бұрын
maybe they should have a number limit??
@calebadam2576
11 ай бұрын
By that logic you ought to only be able to produce, say, five ghosts at a time, or three ultralisks, or something. This is a specialist unit, mass producing them would be a bad idea regardless.
@skychaos87
11 ай бұрын
Nah... just make it a duration based one time use. So if it replicates a Thor or Ultralisks, it would have the exact same stats/upgrades as the unit but it would die once its HP depletes or the duration expires(probably around 25 seconds would be fair). That way there is counter play, so if Protoss build too many Replicants and replicated opponent units, all the opponent have to do is just retreat and wait out the duration and Protoss would automatically lose all that Replicant supplies. Another balance would be to make the Replicant cost 3 supply and it can only replicate units that are 3 supply or lower and of equal amount. For example, if you replicate a Tank, you would only get 1 Tank. If you replicate a Marine, you'd get 3 Marines. 6 Zerglings/Banelings. However, if you replicate a 2 supply units like Queen, Maruader or Roach, you only get 1.
@Anzeljaeg
11 ай бұрын
For pvp Unbalanced , stupid idea ... but for campaign its a100% flaw great idea
@davidsama3547
11 ай бұрын
bond: debes de bufear protos, esta muy debil
@icecream6256
11 ай бұрын
I mean sure, copy mt 1 zergling, or 1 of my spellcaster 💀 not like u can control my spellcaster anyway
@l4unchp4dgaming38
11 ай бұрын
I would like to see SC2 but with Control groups limited to units and only 12 per group. Just to see what the games would look like.
@grodkowski
10 ай бұрын
I swear protoss never get any cool units.
@BrendonReimer
11 ай бұрын
could it turn ghost and just start dropping nukes?
@ProbeSC2
11 ай бұрын
I don't think so.
@level99nn50
11 ай бұрын
Nukes are a silo upgrade not a ghost upgrade, the ghosts ability is calldown but it can't be activated without an "upgraded" ghost academy
@eastsidahboy
9 ай бұрын
Who fuckin cares about these units, if the company of its own deliberately ignored this franchise. Its so much of bs
@DistrictTerra
11 ай бұрын
Seems op like protoss
@ProbeSC2
11 ай бұрын
Definitely OP. Maybe would suit Zerg or Terran better then? :)
@MrWallace484
11 ай бұрын
No just no
@leolam2445
11 ай бұрын
And the unit was not destroy after???? So we only destroy the illusion??? Yeah get the hec* out the here! Op as heck, removed is the right move!
@ProbeSC2
11 ай бұрын
Yeah, it would transform back if destroyed or expired ( Think it was 40 seconds). Of course you can change all these things... but definitely a crazy OP unit
@KabertaKneeGr0wCxntman
11 ай бұрын
thats genuinely very unique and awesome. god man the original blizzard developers were actualy GOATS i cannot wait for stormgate to come out in the next 1.5year
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