Use a wood dowel and hammer it back out the way it came in. Putting a screw in it only expands it and makes it tighter.
@sstace69
4 жыл бұрын
The lady backing out of the room was priceless.
@pattimessenger6214
4 жыл бұрын
stacey frazier It looked like she had some cold drinks.
@johnwayne2103
4 жыл бұрын
How about using something more precise? As soon as I saw him break out that hand drill I was like WTF? How about a drill press?
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3 жыл бұрын
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3 жыл бұрын
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3 жыл бұрын
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@tubehead204
4 жыл бұрын
I knew this video was going to be scary when he said his customer brought in his gun with a “cartridge” stuck in the barrel. Is this man a gunsmith or a handyman that likes to tinker with the occasional gun??
@robertemanuel7664
4 жыл бұрын
Same thing here: impossible to even try to PUT a cartridge into a barrel. One would think this guy knows the difference even at the start, aside from the fact that he later qualifies it as "a bullet."
@larryhojio5067
3 жыл бұрын
I don’t believe this guy’s a gunsmith. I’m a hobbyist gunsmith and even I know this is wrong! Looks like he fouled up the crown at the muzzle too. Probably won’t shoot accurately anymore. Running a drill bit into a barrel is always a bad idea. Use a brass rod as big as will fit in the bore, bridge it with masking tape then with a little lubricant drive the bullet out, in reverse.
@jmkhenka
4 ай бұрын
@@larryhojio5067 I used wooden dowel in my 222 barrel once. never again. I had to drill it out (yeah...). Rifle shot fine afterwards, but having to tape 2 long drills together to reach the entire wooden dovell was not fun.. Crown damage is not always a bad thing, it might shift POI slightly but accuracy is not that reliant on the crown as testing has shown.. First shot might be a flyer but afterwards it will shoot just as good.
@wayneskynet8265
4 жыл бұрын
That man just messed up that revolver
@sizzlechest6070
4 жыл бұрын
How not to remove a bullet from a barrel
@wayneskynet8265
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed this painful to watch
@smiller509
4 жыл бұрын
explain the experience you have to accomplish this job. Ive had to do this. he did nothing wrong. waiting for your for your resume on gunsmithing
@smiller509
3 жыл бұрын
@@amdidextrous so, Holland and Holland gets handguns returned to them with jacketed bullets stuck in them? enlighten us on how Holland and Holland removes two jacketed bullets stuck in a barrel
@smiller509
3 жыл бұрын
@@amdidextrous hey I'm still waiting to hear how the great gunsmith from H&H would remove two stuck bullets from a barrel. or maybe you're just full of shit?
@smiller509
3 жыл бұрын
@@amdidextrous 2 weeks now. still waiting. how would you do this?
@piercer4882
4 жыл бұрын
That drill angle was freaking me out!
@RT10Viperman
4 жыл бұрын
Me too
@BAZZAROU812
4 жыл бұрын
Yep.. Drill press seems more accurate..?
@theirishman8356
4 жыл бұрын
I saw that too.
@AphexTwinII
4 жыл бұрын
That's a guy that's never used a drill
@smiller509
4 жыл бұрын
um...the fact that the barrel was not damaged means there was nothing wrong with the angle. I saw the same video. he didn't do anything wrong. these comments are from video game heroes who have never held anything in their hand except a game controller. this man did it correctly as evidenced at the end of the video. no marks or scratches on the gun. you morons should be ashamed of yourselves. everyone needs to apologize to this man.
@tires2burn
4 жыл бұрын
It seems to me that both bullets could have been punched back through the barrel with a brass rod. Trying to pull them through the rifling hurt to watch. Running a screw into the lead just expands the slug and makes it tighter, & if the screw isn't centered you run the risk of scaring the rifling with the steel threads.
@performancecyclespecialtie6104
4 жыл бұрын
Guy is an idiot i think
@ere828
4 жыл бұрын
I completely agree with you! I have had friends have happened. Brass rod and a mallet
@peteshour768
4 жыл бұрын
They were not bullets! They were cartridges! Free handing a drill from the muzzle of a revolver takes a steading grip. The damage to the barrel wasn't his fault. lt was probably done by the brass shells.
@brianwilson4861
4 жыл бұрын
@@peteshour768 lol
@ResistTheNonsense
4 жыл бұрын
Maybe you can tell me how a "cartridge" got to an inch from the muzzle end? He said cartridge but it was not a cartridge. It was two bullets and the large debris left after was likely copper from a jacket. Unless of course someone took a hammer and decided they wanted a "cartridge" down the barrel. Never know though!
@seditiouslibel
4 жыл бұрын
I had the same firearm and the same issue. Buddy gave me a box of his "special hand-loads". Never again. Anyway, I set it vertical in the vice, tapped a short tapered dowel in the receiving end and gently poured Shooters Choice lead remover down the barrel. Took about a tablespoon or so. Reapplied two more times and let it sit overnight. Two taps with a rod the next afternoon and it was cleared.
@peteshour768
4 жыл бұрын
He's what kind of buddy?
@nifty1940
4 жыл бұрын
@@peteshour768 hahahaha
@seditiouslibel
4 жыл бұрын
@@peteshour768 He went from a shooting buddy to a drinking buddy. Smiling
@KB-nc6ik
4 жыл бұрын
I do it like this. I drill a 4.5mm hole through the projectile. Insert a 4mm threaded rod through the projectile into the drum opening. Then turn a nut on the threaded rod. Put a nut on the muzzle. Then a washer and a nut. Then pull the threaded rod back and turn the nut until the projectile has been pulled out of the barrel into the nut. So far, this has always worked without damage.
@gmd1950
4 жыл бұрын
Well it worked but...this shop is local to me, I'll continue to drive 35 miles north to a much more professional gunsmith.
@peteshour768
4 жыл бұрын
Double H, in Blanch is the best.
@bustersmith5569
3 жыл бұрын
What all did he do incorrectly 🤔,,,,,
@dwightbrown2808
4 жыл бұрын
Two rounds with primer and no powder. The shooter is really lucky the second round was not full power. It would probably have blown it up.
@jeroldpickard947
3 жыл бұрын
Seen it happen blew the cylinder in half destroyed frame and barrel kid was holding just the trigger assembly and grips🎯🎭🇺🇸
@mauserwinchester
4 жыл бұрын
This happened to a guy at my club, however, the local gunsmith removed 11 lead bullets from the barrel, then replaced the barrel as it had split. The shooter was lucky not to have killed himself or anyone near him, he does not shoot anymore thank goodness, and sold his reloading press.
@jongustavsson5874
4 жыл бұрын
one or two, yeah, I can see that, but how the fuck do you fire 11 times and not realize nothing's going down range?
@mauserwinchester
4 жыл бұрын
@@jongustavsson5874 I have got no idea mate, we have all asked that question, and got no answer. The local gunsmith has the barrel on a plaque up on his wall, it's a great talking point, and a lesson to all new shooters and reloaders, to check your ammo, your setup, then check it again.
@SUBARCTICPSYCHO
7 күн бұрын
Wisdom doesn't always come with old age. This man is a prime example.
@philipcooper8297
4 жыл бұрын
This reminds me I've got a dentist appointment.
@leroyjenkins1511
4 жыл бұрын
I purchased a Ruger .357 Single action Revolver on an auction site for a very low price and found it to shoot poorly. I noticed the barrel was swollen from a Squibb load previously. I sent it back to Ruger and they replaced the barrel and some other broken/lost parts for $200 and completely refinished it. It is like new and shoots great. It is best to let the factory fix these problems.
@13thBear
4 жыл бұрын
There ya go! Don't fool around- let the factory fix the problem.
@bdh3949
4 жыл бұрын
This happened to me once using cheap .22 lr ammo in a revolver. I squirted a little Kroil down the barrel, waited about 10 minutes and tapped out the bullet using a brass rod. Didn't take much effort at all. I did not use Kroil once in a desperate friends 38 spl revolver and tried tapping it out with no movement...tried the Kroil upon a gunsmith's recommendation and it popped out with much less effort than I was using before. Just make sure to clean that stuff off your gun once the squib is removed.
@Nontacticalboy
4 жыл бұрын
Happened to me to, snubnose .22. I used brute force😄. Bamboo chopstick, smackit out.
@RJ-sr5dv
4 жыл бұрын
BD H BD, why they note about wiping off the Kroil....? TIA... RJ
@bdh3949
4 жыл бұрын
@@RJ-sr5dv It is a penetrating oil, seeks out every nook and cranny, is very slippery, and since it also "dissolves gum, grease and oil, removes rust and carbon deposits" the remaining oil after use is full of contaminates. Best to get rid of it before using your gun.
@RexH00ligan
8 ай бұрын
YES!
@mikeure1528
4 жыл бұрын
good endorsement for the quality of a SW barrel. someone fired a round into a jammed barrel and it still didn't blow up.
@jmkhenka
4 ай бұрын
dude probably loaded so low that there was not much pressure. Revolvers are not a closed system like a bolt action rifle, pressure can still go backwards. I always check the target for a hit when doing weak loads for pistol and especially revolver. Getting a stuck bullet is not fun.
@neriorus
4 жыл бұрын
Even the Smith and Wesson website said is fine to shoot 38 special from your 357 magnum revolver...
@rmblwgn
4 жыл бұрын
And it is fine
@peteshour768
4 жыл бұрын
Thats not the issue. The reloader forgot to put powder in the load. The primer only produced enough pressure to send the bullet/squib down the barrel. The second squib added to the problem.
@luthiermatt
4 жыл бұрын
@@peteshour768 Ya, I've never done that (sarcasm). Easy to do when you get in a hurry.
@edstimator1
4 жыл бұрын
@@peteshour768 It's not that you "forget" you can get in a rhythm things are humming along and something malfunctions for any number of reasons powder doesn't drop you don't notice it and voilah. Squib load..commin atchya. Pretty GD easy to do in my opinion.
@yuvalmei-dan9950
4 жыл бұрын
Christ... And you claim to be a gunsmith...... Wouldn't trust you with a sling shot....
@RustyorBroken
4 жыл бұрын
Crown, meet steel washer. Washer, Crown. If this is your only option to remove a stuck bullet, for the love of Samuel Colt, please put either a piece of hard leather or urethane against the muzzle. Pulling with pliers aside, I'm ok with drilling the bullet because it can help relieve the pressure of the expanded bullet (similar to a press fit). However, make a plastic drill bushing that fits the bore so that you know for certain that you are drilling on center and not doing further damage in the process. Then push it, not pull.
@RT10Viperman
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@ecleveland1
Жыл бұрын
I've never seen this method before, usually a wooden dowel a little smaller in diameter than the bore is used along with a little penetrating oil such as Kroil, PB Blaster, WD-40 etc... to tap the bullet back down the bore.
@texaswader
4 жыл бұрын
I have to ask, why didn't you just tap the bullets out with a brass rod? I've done that more times than I can count due to squib loads and it works just fine and is a whole lot less time consuming than what you did.
@craigclarke3298
4 жыл бұрын
Had a Faulty Primer in a 45 auto 200 grain SWC. Bullet got stuck in my HK USP. Being a semi automatic just field striped it. Put a small metal rod down it and tapped it out. Quick & Easy no damage to the barrel.
@smiller509
3 жыл бұрын
faulty primer? well how did the bullet move forward? how about you didn't put powder in and the "good" primer pushed the bullet into the barrel.
@MatthewBaileyBeAfraid
4 жыл бұрын
This is painful to watch, that he doesn’t have any sort of “Puller,” to say nothing of drilling crooked... Nor does he have any sort of vertical press.
@roberttaylor6030
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was expecting to see a drill press or a knee mill.
@bobm7275
4 жыл бұрын
Painful is what it is.
@peteshour768
4 жыл бұрын
lt was a real "Cliff Hanger." The video was edited. The best part is missing. How was the second "cartridge" removed?
@andypughtube
4 жыл бұрын
I think he drilled straight. but the wide-angle lens made it look otherwise. If he had actually drilled at the apparent angle he wouldn't even have got through the bullet.
@johnnybarbar7435
4 жыл бұрын
Think again if you think he drilled straight. 8:53 proves he drilled way off center by the time the drill went through the second bullet. The rifling damage was not present until he started drilling with the barrel level in the vise and the drill no where close to parallel with the bore.
@willc3037
4 жыл бұрын
I've gotta say, you're skills barely rival those of the fella that couldn't sort this out for himself... It's also possible that he'll see this video and have a response of something like: "Holy Christ I could have done that myself!".
@getchasome6230
4 жыл бұрын
Probably charged the guy $200 for this
@clintonandrews1538
4 жыл бұрын
The moral of this story is to listen to what your customer tells you. And then follow the old Russian proverb that President Reagan quoted to Soviet Leader Mikhail Gorbachev: 'Доверяй, но проверяй' 'Trust but verify.' And after you fix the firearm and are giving it back to it's owner, doing so in a manner that doesn't bring shame its owner. He will be your customer *forever*.
@k.w.churchill4397
4 жыл бұрын
I miss my 686 badly. Blown up by a reload a buddy gave me. Thanks Johnny cat ! You owe me a 686......sure I will never see it though.
@therealtoaddog
4 жыл бұрын
Some gunsmith - 38 special and 357 magnum both use same projectile size. Gun butcher.
@peteshour768
3 жыл бұрын
He doesn't know what he is doing.
@looseballs1966
4 жыл бұрын
Something to consider when you are next dealing with a stuck bullet, use chemicals to help, depending on weather the bullet is lead cast, or copper jacketed try actually just pouring one of the supper good lead or copper (for copper I use Sweet's 7.62) eating solvents in one end of the barrel then plugging it with a rubber plug, then do the same on the other end of the barrel and plug it with a rubber plug also, this way you have the lead or copper eating solvent working on disolving the bullet from both ends so to speak, then you just sit the gun somewhere for an hour or so with one end of the barrel down then flip it so the other end is down for an hour or so, do that twice each way (in other words 4 hours of soaking all total ) and the bullet will if you used good chemical practically fal out (or what's left of it will ), then just give the barrel a good cleaning and a light oiling and she'll be just like new and your chance of doing any damage from the removal process will be eliminated, I was taught that trick by a very knowledgable old retired gunsmith some years ago and it works incredibly well, I've used it several times to remove both lead and copper bullets from rifles and handguns and even a lead roundball stuck so bad in an old sidelock muzzle loader that was stuck so bad that they had broke the ramrod trying to use the ball puller tool and even one of those cO2 discharger devices would'nt budge, I just filled the barrel with a lead disolver, I use Wipeout brushless lead remover No lead made by Sharp Shoot R Prescision Products, but another good product would be either Bore Tech's rimfire blend, or shooters Choice lead remover but neither of them would do it as quick or as good as the wipeout No Lead, anyhow I just poured the barrel full of the disolver and let it sit for a bit, I don't think it took more than about 30 minutes but as soon as I saw a bit of the liquid starting to drip from the nipple I just dumped out the remaining disolver then used the cO2 discharger device and out came the offending roundball and a whole gobb of other nasty crap, I gave the thing a good cleaning then inspected it with a bore scope and it looked like a new barrel, the owner said it even seemed to shoot better than it ever had. That barrel on that poor 686 looks like it has had some pretty serious neglect from what I could see you showing on here, hard to tell for sure and it obviouslly had been shot and not cleaned yet but there appeared to be old signs of it. P.S. the chemical trick will also work on stuck brass casses also, you just soak it down and let it sit, repeat the process a couple times and it helps to loosen badly stuck casses, you just need to take precautions to keep the chemical off of the other parts of the gun, this will also work for brass jacketed bullets as well just like it does copper jacketed ones because brass is mostly or a large part copper anyhow, so it eats just enough of it away to at least loosen the stuck enough so that little or way less force is needed to remove it the rest of the way, thereby decreasing chances of damage due to using too much heavy mechanical force .
@tubeonline629
4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't want sweets in my barrel for four hours, that stuff is super strong. Sweets says on there instructions not to leave in barrel more than 15 minutes.
@riccardomelchior1461
4 жыл бұрын
It' not advisable to leave ammonia in the barrel for several hours. Also, if the bullet is made of solid lead, there is no commercial solvent able to dissolve lead. Both mercury and "the dip" would work but they are a health hazard.
@tubeonline629
4 жыл бұрын
@@riccardomelchior1461 A 50/50 mixture of hydrogen peroxide and white distilled vinegar will dissolve lead, but I wouldn't want to leave it in a barrel for more than 30 minutes.
@looseballs1966
4 жыл бұрын
@@tubeonline629 Actually there are numerous comercially available lead desolvers available out there, some of which would melt the average 357 or 44 caliber bullet completely away quicker than you could say holy shit, but those would be a bit harsh on the barrel to say the least, that's why the ones I mention because 40+ years of doing this shit has proven what works and what doesn't, as far as leaving an ammonia based cleaner in the barrel for that long yes you are correct but also wrong, ammonia tends to oxydize and cause premature corrosion, but corrosion needs the presence of oxygen, but no oxygen is present in the method I describe, so if cleaned and oiled well after the stuck bullet is removed you do absolutely no harm to the barrel, like I said I've been doing this shit for 40+ years and the odl gunsmith I learned these things from was the one I apprenticed under for about 4 of those years, so do with the information as you will, shove it up your ass and wiggle on it for all I care just don't run your mouth to me about what you think you know.
@tubeonline629
4 жыл бұрын
@@looseballs1966 Hey f*ck wad, I was just saying what it says on every bottle of Sweets, and you are wrong about a chemical needing oxygen to cause corrosion in metal, if you don't believe me then pour a cup full of bleach in a steel gas can with gas in it and look it at it in a couple of hours. The bleach will settle to the bottom just like water but it will rust it very quickly. So you just keep on doing your dumb sss way and ànd I'll do it the right way.
@johnryan2193
4 жыл бұрын
No disrespect but he is not a gun Smith, he is a bodger.
@peteshour768
4 жыл бұрын
Please review the video and get your facts straight! This was a muzzle loader 38 cal SW revolver!
@silaslongshot941
4 жыл бұрын
Your drill and screw idea may have worked better if you had used a light hammer on your pliers while gripping the screw. When you're twisting and flexing the screw you're fatiguing the metal of the screw and widening the hole in the lead bullet which allowed the screw to strip out. A little more twisting and flexing and the screw itself may have broke off leaving a bigger challenge than before. (15 years as master auto tech & 10 as aircraft mechanic. I've seen this before!)
@MrSjcod
4 жыл бұрын
“First option”...... wtf... that would be my last option!
@bigric7185
4 жыл бұрын
I don't think he's a license gun Smith
@RexH00ligan
8 ай бұрын
WD40 sprayed on both ends of the squid. It is the powder that is jammed in the lands and groves holding the bullet tight. It will just tap out after the penetrating oil gets in there. I am an RSO and I removed a lot of squibs and this tricks works every time.
@63DW89A
4 жыл бұрын
I use a brass squib rod and simply tap the bullet(s) out from muzzle to breech in a revolver, using a 3 pound brass mallet. Works every time. Brownells sells them under the name "Brass Squib Rod". Very simple, easy procedure. Takes less time than to type this comment!
@boricuaarecibo9259
11 ай бұрын
I used a wood dowel about 24" long
@ypres1917
3 жыл бұрын
I've been shooting handloads for 30 years, and I shoot about 5,000 rounds per year so the occasional squib does happen. I've cleared 6 or 8 from revolvers over the years by simply tapping them out. I remove the cylinder and grips, place the gun, barrel up, in a padded vice, spray in some oil and let sit 1 hour, then tap out with a brass rod and hammer. Never a problem, looks much safer than this and frankly sometimes the bullet is too deep to reach with a drill.
@peteshour768
3 жыл бұрын
He's a newby!
@brianoneal5033
4 жыл бұрын
I dont know shit about fixing guns but when I seen him drilling into that poor gun and prying that screw sideways against the tip of the barrel it just hurt I feel sorry for the owner you sir do no belong working in that line of work
@peteshour768
3 жыл бұрын
He gave up Dentistry for Gunsmithing.
@derivativegal9423
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great video. I took a firearms class where they showed us a cut-out of a 686 that had 5 bullets in the barrel and the only reason the shooter stopped was because the cylinder locked up on the last round. They never answered my question if the rounds could have been pulled somehow; I think the instructor wanted to focus on the lesson learned. But I've always worried about squibs and now you've shared the hard work and ingenuity that goes in to solving and fixing the problem. One or two don't necessarily spell disaster if it happens.
@johnnybarbar7435
4 жыл бұрын
Sir, with all due respect, never set up and drill like this on anything of value. 8:53 plainly shows that you damaged the bore by drilling at an angle and hit the bore by the time the drill bit penetrated the second bullet.
@DLUNA357
2 ай бұрын
Really...I have also used a wooden dowel as mentioned , dropped a few drops of motor oil and tapped it rearward . Worked like a charm. I would never use a drill, one bad angle and you can ruin a firearm.
@johannesludving1938
4 жыл бұрын
Minute 8:20 the lady walkes in the room. And leaves slowly backwards.
@recklesswhisper
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, because she could see was f*****g up that expensive firearm! HahahahaHAHa! ^..^~~
@bigdaz7072
4 жыл бұрын
holy hell!! brutal to watch
@peteshour768
4 жыл бұрын
Some people should skip gunsmithing school and go straight to medical school. We need more surgeons.
@davidwheeler2299
4 жыл бұрын
Drilling down a barrel? What the hell was he thinking? I've run many pistol ranges and I always carried a 9" x ¼" brass rod stock in my kit for such eventualities. A drop of light oil and some gentle taps with a light hammer always does the trick without damaging the lands or grooves. You can always wrap the brass rod with some CLEAN paper to further save any micro damage to the barrel. If you use anything plastic make sure the surface of the plastic is very, very clean. Small bits of grit, too small to be seen, can become embedded in the plastic and scratch the barrel. Always remember the last ¼" of the barrel, the "crown", is the most important for accuracy and make sure you never touch the sides of the barrel crwon at any time!
@ekajeht8799
4 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY !
@davidrobins4025
4 жыл бұрын
E for effort, but I would work on my own revolver before I brought it to this well-intentioned gentleman.
@EastTNGunDoctor
4 жыл бұрын
This person is far from any gunsmith that I have ever saw. Providing zero protection for the firearm, drilling crooked, he never cleared the firearm. He keeps saying that he is turning the camera off for a minute, please leave it off! This is painful to watch him. Near the end he states that he must be careful to not damage the firearm. Did anyone notice the damage to the end of the barrel at the end of the video. Yep, it was scuffed up.
@mk84ldb
4 жыл бұрын
Notice the progression of time on the wall clock between takes.
@john-paulsilke893
4 жыл бұрын
mk84ldb he may have soaked it during this time.
@ryanlukens9280
4 жыл бұрын
I was watching and had concern right off the bat when he was sweeping the camera person and himself while the cylinder was still in the weapon. I also was concerned when he grabbed a hand drill instead of using a drill press. Lastly, anyone who has ever used hand tools would know what a slide hammer is, and this situation could have benefitted from that tool. Perhaps he’s new to gunsmithing?
@bripro68
4 жыл бұрын
Ryan lukens I’m sure he appreciates your concern but don’t you think they would’ve safety checked the gun when the customer brought it in and again when he started working on it?
@john-paulsilke893
4 жыл бұрын
Ryan lukens I too wondered about a slide hammer. I’ve made several in my time to various success when I didn’t happen to have a commercially made one.
@EC-mc7vg
4 жыл бұрын
As a mechanic I was shocked that he didn't use a plastic sleeve when drilling to protect the rifling or the crown if he was going to use that method instead of tapping the bullets back out with a softer material rod.
@peteshour768
4 жыл бұрын
You have a good head on your shoulders.
@TheHiddenPart
4 жыл бұрын
Grown man rules. I guess he felt comfortable enough not to use any protection.
@boricuaarecibo9259
11 ай бұрын
I once used s center punch so the drill bit has a spot to start drilling Great video well done I learned something thanks
@robstirling3173
4 жыл бұрын
Make yourself a slide hammer with a chuck to take various size self tappers. Easy!
@mikeflynn1327
4 жыл бұрын
He is lucky that the barel didn’t get damaged. I would have enjoyed watching him clean the weapon. Nice job. Thanks.
@dave53m32
4 жыл бұрын
Can't believe how unprofessional this looks.
@cal30m1
4 жыл бұрын
The damaged rifling appears to be near the muzzle, I did see that drill bit slip, once on camera, perhaps more off camera? A stuck lead and copper jacketed bullet should damage the rifling... now if a bulge is present around the second bullet, or behind it I can see that...
@mapmaster5783
Жыл бұрын
How is there two bullets in the barrel? Double squib? Or one cartridge had two bullets in it?
@Wobbegong_th
10 ай бұрын
Got a stuck bullet in my revolver just a couple of weeks ago. it was during a mini IDPA-style match. The shot sound was odd, and luckily it was the last round in the cylinder so I stop. the SO also agreed that the sound was odd and we check the rev together. and a bullet stuck about 1/3 of the way from the enter-end of the barrel. I just use a cleaning rod pass through the barrel, and then bang the rev straight on a table and the bullet popped out. First time ever for me. The ammo was from a mix batch of leftover so I wasn't able to identify which batch it was.
@davidpook5778
4 жыл бұрын
Damage to the rifling was from the drill bit.
@jeffreycase285
Жыл бұрын
Drill and screw method works I use a no 10 heavy deck screw might be a number 12 square or torque drive then place a quarter drive socket sometime a deep bigger than diameter of bullet . I also place a brass washer between muzzle and socket to not mar barrel or the crown the torque or square drive screws dont slip and I have even used a impact driver to break the inertia the really course threads of a deck screw really bite and cut into the lead so it doesn't strip out as easy I also try an use a little lead free and powder solvent ahead of the bullet to help it along. I load very light cowboy loads as all I do is punch paper at this point and I also teach a lot of people to shoot with these loads, anyhow when you're getting down to the minimum be careful as each gun it a little different I've had bullets get stuck in my 686 that work perfectly in my model 65.
@harrisonmantooth3647
4 жыл бұрын
Something like this happened to me many years ago with my Ruger .41 Mag Blackhawk. I noticed the definitely different report when I fired the round. As already mentioned, it was a sickening sound. I used a short length of cleaning rod and was able to tap it out. I'm thinking I short charged that round, this happened when I was still new to handloading.I was using 2400 powder at the time. After that, I payed closer attention to the task at hand. Be diligent folks. On the other hand, I knew two fellas that were loading up some .38 specials. They threw a double charge of Unique into the case. That very nice S&W revolver became a Wall hanger. The two men were spared any serious injuries.
@davidwile5109
4 жыл бұрын
Hey folks, At about 10:14 he stated part of the brass casing was stuck in the barrel with the bullet, and I would hope he would realize the brass he mentioned was from the bullet jacket, not the brass case. Then he mentions the pistol is chambered for .357 cartridges but the owner used .38 cartridges. Anyone who intends to shoot a .S&W 357 pistol should know that the pistol is also designed to use.38 cartridges which use the same diameter bullet. The .357 cartridge is about 1/8 inch longer than the .38 cartridge, and this prevents shooting a .357 cartridge in a .38 pistol because the .357 cartridge is too long for a .38 chamber. .38 cartridges can safely be used in a .357 pistol, but the .357 cartridge is more powerful than the .38 cartridge and is thus designed to not chamber in a .38 pistol. Best wishes, Dave Wile
@Jack-df9gy
4 жыл бұрын
Where both bullets squib loads? I would think if they where not the barrel would have blown apart? And why not try and push them out first?
@randykirby2326
4 жыл бұрын
Check out the clock on the wall. He spent quite awhile getting those bullets out!
@peteshour768
4 жыл бұрын
$55. per hour.
@javamanV3
4 жыл бұрын
I am curious as to why the second round did not blow the gun up. Looked like a classic case of firing another round befor you found what happened on the first squib load.
@illinoisbowhunter1009
4 жыл бұрын
The owner was shooting .38 Special ammo in a gun designed to handle much more powerful 357 pressures which stacked the odds in his favor--a little. It's my guess that the ammo being used was under-powered handloads if the first bullet made it that far down a 6-inch barrel, rather than another possible scenario of a missing powder charge. Any way you look at it, the owner is very lucky that he didn't blow up his gun but very unlucky to pick a "gunsmith" who then damaged the rifling with careless bullet removal techniques.
@willebiggz
2 жыл бұрын
Hello. I am a gunsmith and I have a similar situation on a model 19. Except I also have a case separation and it is stuck between the forcing cone and cylinder preventing me from opening the cylinder. Oh yeah and there is still a live round in the cylinder. This is kind of the perfect storm situation. I had removed the first squib which was an inch from the muzzle only to find that there was a second all the way back in the very beginning of the 6in barrel. Please if you have any suggestions I am all ears. I think that I might have to replace the barrel but I need to be able to remove the cylinder. So before I chop this barrel or drill out the second squib I would love to talk privately
@mrshifter8220
2 жыл бұрын
I guess he doesn't wanna help.....would like to know, have a friend that has the same exact issue. If you find a way, please let me know. ......thanks.
@gravityalwayswins1434
4 жыл бұрын
I have cast and reloaded tens of thousands of cartridges in my .357 and .44 revolvers over the decades, and had stuck bullets about a handful of times, from no powder just a primer or too little powder. I always shoot semi wadcutters with a flat nose, no jacketed ever. I fix this afield every time. I carry two rods in the glovebox of my pickup, one hickory and the other aluminum, and simply stick the rod in the muzzle and tap the bullet back out the breech. Don't need a hammer, any good fist sized rock with a flat spot works fine. If it was just a primer pop no powder, and the cylinder is bound up just drive bullet back into cylinder. If near muzzle, swing open the cylinder or remove it and drive the bullet down and out the breech end of the barrel. Easy as could be. No barrel damage at all.
@WilliamHunterII
4 жыл бұрын
I had the same problem with an old .38 spl. from WWII. Shooting old ammo I got three bullets stuck. After removing the bullets we x-rayed the barrel and found it had a crack. So, that was the end of that barrel. With such a problem as this I would never again trust that barrel. I wouldn't even bother removing the bullets. Just replace the barrel.
@illinoisbowhunter1009
4 жыл бұрын
Barrel metallurgy has matured and improved greatly since the '40's.
@mamjack6134
2 жыл бұрын
How did you get 3 stuck?
@WilliamHunterII
2 жыл бұрын
@@mamjack6134 I know, right? You'd think we might have figured out what was going on, but nooooooo. We kept at it until the third one porturded into the cylinder preventing it from turning. We were puzzled, because there was no recoil. We had never heard of nor had anything like that happen. Imagine our surprise when we realized the projectiles were stacking up in the barrel. Surprised and relieved that the damn thing didn't blow up in our hands.
@keithjohnson3883
4 жыл бұрын
what was the wrong with just using a brass rod 3/8 diameter with a concave tip just drive it out through the cylinder side I keep various different sizes in my range bag at all times with a small hammer.
@brianwilson4861
4 жыл бұрын
I stuck a 240 gr jacketed hollow point in the barrel of my S&W 629 when I intentionally reloaded a cartridge with black powder to see if black powder could shoot a jacketed bullet. I was surprised that it couldn't. I tapped it out with a hammer and cleaning rod. Drilling a hole though the center of a jacketed bullet then trying to pull it after threading a screw into it is almost certain to leave the jacket stuck. When bullets are pulled from a muzzle loader they're not jacketed or if they are jacketed they're loaded in a sabot.
@copkhan007
4 жыл бұрын
I had the same problem in my Ruger GP100 357 Magnum pistol. I used MAP gas torch to heat up the bullet for 5 seconds. It became soft enough for me to push out with hammer and wooden dowel. Drill? Never.....
@illinoisbowhunter1009
4 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for the abused gun barrel after you heated it with MAPP gas. :(
@u2dva
4 жыл бұрын
Could it be solved by shooting a few blanks to blow out a bullet?
@devilsoffspring5519
2 жыл бұрын
If it's REALLY stuck, and you've already drilled a hole through the bullet(s), then you can put a long threaded rod through them and put a nut on the end that fits into the barrel bore. Then pull the rod out with a slide hammer or something like that.
@grigorirasputin2276
4 жыл бұрын
When I was about 17, I was playing around with some Speer .38 caliber shotshell cups. The cup was yellow plastic and the base was orange. You could fill these up with birdshot of your choice and have snake shells for much less than the factory loaded .38 birdshot loads. Anyway, one night I was reloading some of these on my dad's reloader when this bright idea crossed my mind. I put just the empty cup, with hollow base down, in a .38 case loaded with only a small magnum primer. I thought it would be fun to fire the yellow plastic hull and see how far it traveled with a primer driving it. I did not put the orange base on it. I put this load in my 6" S&W M-28 Highway Patrolman and fired it. The only thing to exit the muzzle was the piece of yellow plastic which had a few seconds earlier, covered the yellow plastic shot capsule on its forward end. I now had a yellow plastic tube about an inch or so long, lining my bore about halfway down the barrel. I was panicked and did not want to deal with the measure of sh*t that my dad would surely dish out for my act of damnfoolery. Fortunately, the late, great, Fletcher Williams was a friend of my dad and lived nearby. Mom suggested that I call him as he was the nearest thing to a gun smith we knew. Fletcher, as the insurance commercial said, "knew a thing or two because he had seen a thing or two". I called Mr Williams and he told me to come over and bring my gun. He assessed the situation and delighted in giving me a dubious, only slightly hopeful, prognosis for my gun. If you knew him, that was how his sense of humour worked, more often than not. Problem was, I took him seriously, very seriously. Anyway, Mr Williams put my gun in a vice and proceded to drive a very soft .38 wadcutter down the bore from the muzzle end, using an old aluminum handgun cleaning rod in his shop. He hammered on that rod and wadcutter for what seemed to me like eternity. Finally, the yellow tube came out of the forcing cone end and then, at long last, the wadcutter did, too. I asked how much I owed him. He only charged me five bucks "to cover the cost of the now hopelessly buggered cleaning rod". Of course, I got another lecture on such acts of damnfoolery as put me in his shop that night, but it was a lesson well learned and not forgotten, 45 years later. The man, in my mind at least, had saved my life, and I would have gladly taken a bullet for him after that.
@rodneyhouston5464
2 жыл бұрын
My friend came to visit me . He brought one of his guns and some reloads. Long story short he fired 6 reloads from my highway patrolman 357 .The 6th bullet sounded like it only had a prime and no powder. I can see the bullet in the barrel. Now the first problem I'm having is the the cylinder release button pushes and appears to work bit the trigger will only slightly move and the cylinder won't rotate or swing open. Any thoughts would be appreciated
@jtee9548
4 жыл бұрын
It is painful to watch the lack of understanding of leverage, the lack of hand eye coordination, the lack of planning, the lack of enough common sense to liberally soak the barrel from both ends with a bore cleaner/lube as a first step. The last insult to injury was the reference to the "brass casing stuck in the rifling". It wasn't case material, it was jacket material and it wasn't brass, it was copper. Although seemingly a very nice fellow I wouldn't have this gentleman work on anything I own, let alone a firearm.
@peteshour768
4 жыл бұрын
We have the right in this great country to express our observations and opinions politely and professionally. Firestone is hiring tire repairmen.
@jamesavery6671
4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't have him work on a red ryder bb gun !!!
@reggraham6789
4 жыл бұрын
Perhaps the last insult was when he insinuated that the owner shouldn't have been using 38s in a 357! And I don't even own a 357
@konstantinethegr8
4 жыл бұрын
How does a bullet get stuck like this? Wrong caliber bullets?
@jeffdanner3194
4 жыл бұрын
Lots of , I would have done it this ways on here . It’s real easy to criticize some one else’s work . The gun had two bullets stuck in it , I’m sure conventional methods for removal wouldn’t have worked in this case . Also , I’m sure he stands by his work . Thanks for the video.
@edstimator1
4 жыл бұрын
You are being VERY KIND! Having said that....everything this guy was doing was wrong. To not point that out and have some other poor schmuck ruin his own gun following this HORRENDED excuse of a "HOW TO " video would be very irresponsible.
@TattooedNSnappedBack
4 жыл бұрын
Im trying to figure out how brass casing got stuck inside the barrel
@americanpatriot3667
4 жыл бұрын
brennan varela not Enough charging powder to send the bullet out of the fire arm
@SCBariTone
4 жыл бұрын
@@americanpatriot3667 but this is a revolver. How did the brass casing ever get into the barrel?
@americanpatriot3667
4 жыл бұрын
SCBariTone the round probably failed to extract out of the brass casing and and got stuck most likely due to wrong ammunition size or not enough charging powder to shot the round out of the casing and it siezed in the barrel
@SCBariTone
4 жыл бұрын
@@americanpatriot3667 The 686 is a REVOLVER. There is no extractor, and there is no way, in normal operation, for a casing to go INTO the barrel.
@lawrencelaforest6545
4 жыл бұрын
This guy has no bussiness touching a firearm.
@Euragone68
4 жыл бұрын
I have to agree...
@ioccatonyz1
4 жыл бұрын
You stated your opinion without any kind of justification. The wiggling with lineman's pliers worked but the round left casing behind. Tightening the screw on the washer stack is a rudimentary puller, but doesn't allow the round to follow the rifle groves that has it wedged in the barrel. I would of used a "puller" on the screwhead to pull it out straight while allowing the round to continue the twist of the rifleings. I think he chose to pull it forward out because it was so close to the end of the barrel. As we all can see that didn't workout so well, even a "puller" most likely wouldn't of got it out in one piece. So next time don't play around, take the barrel off oil and tap or more prefered "press" a rod to remove them in the shortest distance of pressing. In this case from rear to the end of barrel would of been the better choice. Both rounds mutilated when they stacked up, so they aren't coming out in any kind pristine condition. "This guy has no business touching a firearm." is not warranted in this case as he performed the task without causing any kind of damage. I have a S&W 868-4 with a 6" inche barrel and wanted to know the particulars of this malfunction, he provided those particulars...
@ppierce9817
4 жыл бұрын
He did it best way possible if he would have drove both bullets backwards they would have mashed and expanded and would have been mush worse to get out with doubles you pull the first through the barrel and push the second one out through the back i personally use a small slid hammer i made in house
@peteshour768
4 жыл бұрын
Refer to his video repair of a double rifle. My guess is the rifle is worth 10k + $
@ppierce9817
4 жыл бұрын
@daAnder71 not totally saying it wouldn't have come out just saying from my experience in the shops i worked in this is the best way of doing it in my opinion the person that got two bullets stuck in the barrel is the one who shouldn't be touching firearms
@ResponseDigitalMedia
4 жыл бұрын
Crude as the removal may be… It did work - but my question is how did this happen? Were these reloads or a crappy brand. I’d like to know - to never buy that brand. And how did the second cartridge not end up blowing up the gun. Was it fortunate they were both weak loads? I was always under the impression that if you fired a gun with an obstruction it will be catastrophic.
@JohnSmith-yb1im
4 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't you just tap it out with a wooden dowel? Because that's what I would do and if that's wrong I would like to know why so I don't mess up my weapons. Thank you.
@k.w.churchill4397
4 жыл бұрын
Wooden dowel would be the way to go..even if you uses up a few of them. Cheaper then a new barrel !
@flyrock45
4 жыл бұрын
How on earth did this gun not blow up by not fully discharging? 2 bullets means he pulled twice.
@GarandMan1943
4 жыл бұрын
I’m not expert by any means, but being a machinist I would not have went straight into drilling the bullet....definitely would have used a pushrod and a mallet first and plenty oil lubricant
@clivedavies7984
4 жыл бұрын
This happened to me i sprayed inside barrel with wd40 and used a hammer and a metal rod to tap it out i also put duck tape around rod to prevent damage to inside barrel. I feel sorry for the gun owner. whats the retail of one of these? I'm in uk the govenment here are more strict on high caliper hand guns
@lildeli3rddimention
3 жыл бұрын
Brand new around $800. maybe more! My advice would be , send it to S+W and have THEM install a three inch tube, or four if you're gonna hunt or punch paper! But it's a superb carry gun! I have one and love it!
@johnnyroastbeef3048
4 жыл бұрын
Never let had that happen to me. I don't use reloads. But I'll tell you if anything happened like that to me I'd want you working on my firearm. You're a real Pro. Thanks for the demonstration and your video
@SG__-gd1fy
3 жыл бұрын
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@georgelong4888
4 жыл бұрын
You have no idea how to do this. I feel sorry for your Victim. Having removed lots and lots of stuck projectiles from all manner of firearms I would not want you working on a toy. The bore is ringed. Gonna need a new barrel. You better send that to S&W to do or your gonna have to buy a whole revolver. Maybe you should just go fishing.
@peteshour768
4 жыл бұрын
lt is sad to see. But good to know from watching these videos. Double H Gunsmithing in Blanch is the place to go.
@riccardomelchior1461
4 жыл бұрын
I would have used a bronze bushing to protect the barrel from an accidental contact with the drill bit .
@peteshour768
4 жыл бұрын
We don't do things that way anymore. We are "Old School!" lf you can't fix it with a hammer and drill then your not worth your salt.
@edstimator1
4 жыл бұрын
@@peteshour768 You're not worth your salt
@johnplaid648
4 жыл бұрын
I would not trust this man with my firearm. Better to go to Mark Novak.
@jodyjames3199
4 жыл бұрын
J Haman I
@johnplaid648
4 жыл бұрын
@@jhaman8463 Speaking of dumbass....
@jeroldpickard947
3 жыл бұрын
Same deal S&W mod 23 straight to the gunsmith . old ammo 🎯🎭🇺🇸
@michaeltorrent7829
4 жыл бұрын
Why would there be "brass casing" in the rifling?
@michaelsorrell601
3 жыл бұрын
BRASS JACKET
@indawgwetrust4255
4 жыл бұрын
Instead of using a philips driver, get a square "Robertson" type. Way easier to torque on without worrying about slipping and cam out.
@harryballz6740
4 жыл бұрын
Indawg Wetrust Robertson is a Canadian thing. Not sure they are available in the states
@majinkaos
4 жыл бұрын
Or use a bolt with a socket
@vevevededede
4 жыл бұрын
Bolt and socket like a bearing puller.
@illinoisbowhunter1009
4 жыл бұрын
Or perhaps a hex-headed bolt and use a ratchet/socket.
@indawgwetrust4255
4 жыл бұрын
Harry Ballz i am in the upper-midwest, and robertson fasteners are sold in all the hardware stores. Could be different in other areas though.
@imxploring
4 жыл бұрын
Hold my beer.... I'm gonna try something!
@tunafish3216
4 жыл бұрын
Nothing like old blacksmith work.
@iamtheomega
4 жыл бұрын
i was sweating the shaky free hand drilling: I'd go vertical on a drill or mill and with a drill guide and soak both ends of slugs with lube, at least wd40. But the screw and washers will work well if you don't get too aggressive as vert./horiz. movement beyond centerline is minimal.
@mikeschumacher9715
4 жыл бұрын
A cartridge stuck in the barrel? That's a trick! Obviously a bullet. Moving on now.
@peteshour768
4 жыл бұрын
Yes, no doubt these were a primer powered bullet only.
@ClayBlasdel44
4 жыл бұрын
I'm not a gunsmith but I would start with lubrication, then maybe an Easy-Out.
@edstimator1
4 жыл бұрын
First statement was correct ....second one not....brass rod ...or steel with shrink tube drive it out.
@chashko1
4 жыл бұрын
Can't we just shoot one more time with a shell that has the bullet removed and only the charge is left?
@Bent099
4 жыл бұрын
Why on Earth would you use a Philips head screw. The second most useless head ever.
@anthonyxuereb792
4 жыл бұрын
It's Phillips and not Philips, sorry to correct you publicly.
@illinoisbowhunter1009
4 жыл бұрын
As bad of a technique that he chose, a properly-sized screwdriver would have at least worked "better".
@28highboy
4 жыл бұрын
38 special and 357 magnum but use the same diameter bullet, .357 copper jacket and .358 lead. Unless you are talking about 38/55 which is .375
@mikes6961
4 ай бұрын
Ive tried taking the bullet out of a cartridge and shooting it to blow squibs out of barrels and its worked everytime. I saw it on a video and was very skeptical. But .....
@donkeziah2564
4 жыл бұрын
Why not use a hard wood dowel and drive the bullet backward?
@lenzielenski3276
4 жыл бұрын
No gunsmith worth his shingle DRILLS down a barrel to remove a bullet. Brass rod, out the back, 2 minutes TOPS.
@peteshour768
4 жыл бұрын
You may want to watch his video repair of the double rifle. l couldn't.
@ResistTheNonsense
4 жыл бұрын
I agree. This guys talent is questionable.
@mpetersen6
4 жыл бұрын
If, a very large if, it was absolutely necessary to drill down the barrel to remove the bullets the 686 should have been set-up in a milling machine so you could be absolutely positive the drill is on center and straight up and down. One thing drilling the center out would do is help relieve the pressure. Just how common is this. Maybe I'm dense but I've never heard of this happening
@dave7830
4 жыл бұрын
The drill hole on the second bullet looked like it came out the side - into the rifleing
@MrTruckerf
4 жыл бұрын
@@dave7830 The rifling looked OK with the light. I paused it and studied it for a while.
@michaeldvorak5556
Жыл бұрын
Maybe a hex head screw. Clamp the gun with barrel set back from edge of vise so washers rest on vise. Use a wooden dowel that just fits the barrel and drive them back out.
@GoBart454
Жыл бұрын
Omg....seriously 😳 I've done this more than a few times...oil into each end of the barrel, oak dowel tapping easily with a small hammer works 100% of the time. Clean the barrel after to clean rifling out...good to go..
@RJ-sr5dv
4 жыл бұрын
USE KROIL..... LET IT SIT FOR A DAY -- MEASURE FROM BOTH ENDS TO MAKE SURE THERE IS ONLY ONE BULLET STUCK, Always use a muzzle guide to protect the rifling at the crown. Sinclair’s sells them
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