You are a marathon runnner - 9x charging must give an award, every 60ish km a break is a really tough challenge you can not really realize by watching in a 23 min. video representing a 9 hour ride. This video looks entertaining - or as in the stream called untertainment - like a joyride but you were really exhausted and noise level was quite high.
@CaroAbebe
3 жыл бұрын
Good to know you survived the ordeal, Chris 😅 Perfect description: 90% only drive their (one) car to work, very occasionally they take it on a long trip. A modest car might meet all the needs, as long as range and charging speed are reasonable.
@plasot
Жыл бұрын
I would consider to take it for 250 kms trip with charging somewhere inbetween.
@matthiaskogler935
3 жыл бұрын
Ich selbst fahre auch einen Twingo electric, aber alle 50 km muss ich nicht Laden. Meine Reichweite bis zur Ladesäile beträgt 170 km und da hab immer noch 15 Prozent. Und das im Ecomodus bei 107 km/h
@MrTechfreak95
3 жыл бұрын
I drove my Renault ZOE Q210 22kW Battery with 43kW AC Charger around 600km on one day from Bavaria to Graz in Austria.(2018) No Problem at all, i only charged on 43kW AC. On 22kW like on this Twingo it would be a bit to slow... Now with my Tesla Model 3 its almost to easy to drive that distance. :D
@MrTechfreak95
3 жыл бұрын
Just searched my stats. Duration of the Trip 12h with charging and eating breaks and whatnot. 587km 77.7 km/h average speed 15.9 kWh/100km 93kWh total consumption
@simonbrunner3062
3 жыл бұрын
Charging speed makes all the difference. My first long distance EV experience was driving a first-gen VW e-up! from Zwickau to Munich (350 km). Although it only had 15.9 kWh useable capacity, it wasn't too bad because charging to 80% took barely more than 20 minutes thanks to CCS fast charging. And I didn't mind getting out of this tiny city car every 45-60 minutes. ;-) But relying on 22 kW AC charging for long distance travelling would drive me crazy.
@nakfan
3 жыл бұрын
I love this style of videos from you. Top notch 👍 Love the music, too...🎸 Per
@130rapid
3 жыл бұрын
Well done! That's the worst case scenario: you must drive 500 km, however your 'stagecoach' is broken & you take the backup vehicle. :D
@bdeithrick
3 жыл бұрын
9.20hrs just as fast than my leaf 500kms test in Ireland. Had to wait at some chargers. Took 8hr.20 Most people will own this and take road trip to concert or beach in the summer . Only go once or twice. This is not a problem to tip along at leisure. We all have time and not money for 80kwh packs.
@fabriziom
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris you mastered it!!! You suffered a bit but handled it like a warrior. Kudos mate!!
@briangriffiths114
3 жыл бұрын
Very good report and equally good music!
@FordGranada75
3 жыл бұрын
I love that final stop in Hengersberg! I loved to charge my Tesla there and having a break at the restaurant.
@FordGranada75
3 жыл бұрын
I once did a 500km trip (in fact back and forth, so a total of1000km) with a Renault Zoe 41kWh. It took me 6,5 hours of driving at 85km/h according to GOM and exactly 1 stop of charging for 2 hours. I'm used to driving at slow speeds behind the trucks but that 2 hours of charging sucked.
@kannonmoshe2287
3 жыл бұрын
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@ignaciocarmelo293
3 жыл бұрын
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3 жыл бұрын
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@kannonmoshe2287
3 жыл бұрын
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@ignaciocarmelo293
3 жыл бұрын
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@Astrophysikus
3 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right! You can do it, even if it is not the most convenient thing to do. Sure, in my Model 3, and going only 90 km/h, I could probably do the 500 km on a single charge and a little under 6 hours. In practice, I would go more like 130 km/h, charge at least once or rather twice (one has to pee after all), and end up with the same average speed of about 90 km/h, compared to your 60 km/h. So even your worst-case scenario is only 33% slower compared to my best-case one. That is not too bad after all! In the past, before I had a car and before that stupid pandemic, I used to take the train a lot. There were certain trips without direct connections and changing a lot between multiple slow-ish trains. It would take me about twice the time compared to driving, and with all the changing, it was not even convenient. Yet, I could go from point A to point B for minimal cost, which was definitely better than not going at all. It is the same with the Twingo, no ideal, but definitely doable, especially if you only need to do it once in a blue moon!
@plasot
Жыл бұрын
Point is that in Europe you do not have to do it as for 500 kms trip you can easily use mass transportation.
@itekani
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe I would break it down to two day trips 250km each, then it feels more manageble. Isn't it in France they let you rent this car and you get access some days per year to a fossil loaner car? That is pretty awesome.
@danielgago-sk
3 жыл бұрын
One does not even realize it, but here at Slovakia we also have chargers (hypercharger) that do not have AC... And we also have enough chargers that have only AC (22kW) ... At least 2x more than DC.
@abraxastulammo9940
3 жыл бұрын
Währenddessen ist der e-Up meistverkauftes E-Auto im 1. Quartal 2021 in .de, kann aber auch ca. 50 % schneller laden und hat ca. 50 % groessere Batterie. 😳
@PT63
3 жыл бұрын
Der neue e-up! lädt meist auch nur mit 30-35 kW und durch die fehlende Akkukühlung schwebt die Gefahr von Rapidgate immer mit. Ich bin früher Langstrecke mit dem e-up! gefahren, aber wenn der Akku erstmal im roten Temperaturbereich (über 40 °C) war, hat es keinen Spaß mehr gemacht. Dieses Problem hat der Twingo nicht. Es wären auch keine 8 Ladevorgänge notwendig gewesen. 3-4 hätten locker gereicht.
@andreasbayer
3 жыл бұрын
That's exactly the video I was looking for. Next weekend I have to take a twingo from the dealer about 350 km away. I'm planning with 2 to 3 charge stops of 45 min. Just thinking about the cruise speed.
@typxxilps
3 жыл бұрын
e-Up data from 2020 Video for comparison: the e-Up charged at any time faster than the Twingo up to 77% at 18 kW (50 min) The e-Up will be 2,5 hours faster than the 9 h of the Twingo if you check the math below based on former videos from april 2020 90 km / h 13,5 kWh (wet, rain, 7°C which means worser conditions) 230 km range and 5% - 80% range 173 km 110 km / h 16,5 kWh (wet, rain, 7°C which means worser conditions) 188 km range and 5% - 80% range 141 km 100 km / h should be the best compromise, cause 110 km / h is too fast, 90 km / h too slow 500 km at 100 km/h = 5 x 15 kWh = 75 kWh - 32 kWh (Start at 100% SOC) = 43 kWh to charge 2x 14 kWh = 2x 25 min 1x 15 kWh = 1x 27 min Would 4 charges make more sense or better would that be faster ? No, cause 4 charges x 11 kWh at 20 min = 80 min which means 3 mins longer charging time + time for another stop LOGBOOK 120 min = 200 km till 1st charge @ 100 27 min = charge 15 kWh 60 min = 300 km till 2nd charge @ 100 25 min = charge 14 kWh 60 min = 400 km till 3nd charge @ 100 25 min = charge 14 kWh 60 min = 500 km 377 min = 6:16 hours This is a pretty acurate calculation so 6:30 hours can be expected if good prepared at least at these low temperatures. 2,5 hours faster - for a similiar expensive car is a clear vote to get a fully equipped e-Up And yes, you have to calculate on minutes to get a fair comparison cause otherwise figures show no big difference and look the same if you try to calculate with 0,1 hours which equals 5 minutes. The difference was roughly 1 hours between 0,1 hour calculation versus minutes. So be carefull if you try to do the math. Biggest challenger for the TWINGO might be the DACIA SPRINT in autumn due to 2 kWh bigger battery and 30 kWh CCS charger, but will not reach the e-Up speed due to 8 kWh smaller battery and 10 kWh slower charging speed.
@dennis776
10 ай бұрын
Oh man, hole meinen Twingo in 2 Wochen in Hamburg und muss dann gute 360km heim fahren, na was freue ich mich 😂
@BatteryLife
10 ай бұрын
Viel Spaß, das wird geil
@dennis776
10 ай бұрын
@@BatteryLife mit Sicherheit wird es das 😂
@dennis776
10 ай бұрын
Darf ich fragen, was du empfehlen würdest zu fahren? Die Frage ist, ob ich über die AB fahren sollte oder über Land, beides hat annähernd die gleiche Länge, allerdings würde es überland fast 7 Stunden dauern und AB knapp 4, beides ohne Ladzeit gerechnet 🙈 meinst du, es würde sich lohnen auf der Landstraße zu fahren zwecks mehr Reichweite oder doch lieber mit 100km/h auf der Autobahn? 😅
@thomashierzberger6945
3 жыл бұрын
Hab auch eine Delivery mit dem Twingo gemacht; 650km nach Vorarlberg. Ziemlich heftig.
@BatteryLife
3 жыл бұрын
Respect!
@TassieEV
3 жыл бұрын
Wow Chris talk about crazy. I wouldn't be able to do it where I live as no AC chargers at regular intervals only fast(50/350kW) DC chargers.
@BatteryLife
3 жыл бұрын
350kW chargers are Better anyways!
@madrid01full
3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I personally love this car but can't get it in Slovakia (hard to understand why when you can get almost all other EVs). Since there are tons of AC chargers here, many of them free or very cheap, it would be perfect car, especially if you live in the city or travel close by. 100-200kms trips are also pretty fine. Small battery is more than sufficient for this (and more ecological) and when you need to go further 1-2 a year, the car can manage it without battery overheating too much. Its of course not car for everyone but I am surprised they don't bring it to countries with excellent AC charging infrastructure... Not sure this will sell in Germany... Btw, 22 kW AC charging is so much underestimated...
@nondesperado
3 жыл бұрын
But I bet you can get the Smart Forfour Electric? In Denmark it is the same, no Twingo ZE but Smart Forfour instead. I think that Renault and Smart have an agreement of not competing in smaller markets.
@Neoptolemus
3 жыл бұрын
I am jealous on how much spare time you have
@BatteryLife
3 жыл бұрын
I do not. Full time work, then this on the weekend. But no kids!
@hawedehre
3 жыл бұрын
It was a long stream. Thanks.
@danielgago-sk
3 жыл бұрын
I like 22kW AC - I would work much cheaper with it ... But not on long distances. :-) But the trip was great, I would also try it if I had something to do.
@NeilBlanchard
3 жыл бұрын
Hey - that was a Honda E on the trailer (at about 10 minutes in)! Is the Twingo Electric RWD?
@BatteryLife
3 жыл бұрын
It was. We passed eachother a few times. Yes. RWD.
@gergall1809
3 жыл бұрын
How common are 22kW chargers in Germany,or would you mostly have to use higher powered triple chargers?
@typxxilps
3 жыл бұрын
type 2 are everywhere but on the road it is tougher to find them and of cause an unoccupied cause usually there are 1 or 2 only.
@gergall1809
3 жыл бұрын
@@typxxilpsI Had a Q210 Zoe with 43kW charging capability..On longer trips,it worked fine-The small battery and just 22kW charging wouldn't be my ideal choice..
@davidsworld5837
3 жыл бұрын
the problem with 22kw or if your onboard charger is slower is time. you are taken the charger away from space for faster charging cars for a huge time. if you look at it if you charge at a 7kW charger the likelihood is you could for some cars need 6 hrs to charge up which means only 4 cars in a 24 hr time can charge.
@jessegeerts5043
3 жыл бұрын
The e-up beats the Twingo ZE by only the battery...
@stephenbamforth1514
3 жыл бұрын
Nice music🙂
@davidsworld5837
3 жыл бұрын
3 hrs of charging. so 9hrs for 500 means 18 hrs for the 1000 but that's 16 charges and 6 hrs at chargers it would be different if during the charges you were away from the car doing anything it makes it a more tiring day waiting for the charge
@BatteryLife
3 жыл бұрын
It would have been better to charge longer and drive further.
@1701_FyldeFlyer
3 жыл бұрын
I love our little ICE Twingo Dynamique. I can only presume Renault arent importing the EV Twingo to the UK because it would compete with Zoe for sales? Even on our ICE Twingo, the fuel gauge is rubbish. The bar display doesnt move off full until there's about 2 gallons left in the tank when it will show half full! The digital display of fuel used since last refill ie 5.5 gallons, is very accurate so rely on that to know how much is left in the tank. There's nowhere to put your other leg even in the ICE Twingo but fortunately, as Im not tall like you, it's not as uncomfortable for me. Manufacturers need to sort out the position of charge ports. Either put one each side of the vehicle or one centrally front or back. The chargers dont have long enough cables and parking cockeyed is just crazy.
@bdeithrick
3 жыл бұрын
The only way to long trip a Honda E. twingo nice car I would buy it for city. Why not . I’d get Zoe thou. This trip €18 is quicker and cheaper than the country Bus.
@abraxastulammo9940
3 жыл бұрын
19:50 Now we know how VW can afford 30 Cent price at Ionity: charge customers 70 Cent at other chargers so it will somehow even out.😂
@BatteryLife
3 жыл бұрын
No, the station is charging VW that. ENBW is the same, but they take the loss.
@paulinchris
3 жыл бұрын
Informative test, what did it cost you in total?
@BatteryLife
3 жыл бұрын
Shown in the end. 18€
@paulinchris
3 жыл бұрын
@@BatteryLife I suppose that is pretty good 😃
@rollinhand4750
3 жыл бұрын
Do you know the phisical size of the battery ? Can it fit on the smart car eq ? Thanks
@BatteryLife
3 жыл бұрын
No idea.
@paulvanderhaegen761
3 жыл бұрын
too much money for that shoe-box LOL until now my favorite is mg zs.
@AdrianBlaga
3 жыл бұрын
And the prince 4 electricity?
@ExtraLeben
3 жыл бұрын
3 hours for 200 km xD just take the train ... but i bet in the city the car is incredibly good ^^
@simonstegel
6 ай бұрын
94 is less than some trucks are allowed on autobahn….so you are slower and they would need to pass you which is not ok :) Try the same test with a more reasonable speed, let’s say 124km/h
@BatteryLife
6 ай бұрын
No, truck speed limit is 80. No truck passed me
@uwehopfner7435
3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I would like to say something about such videos. I think it's really great when the topic of electromobility is dealt with. I don't like it when concepts are simply adopted by other KZitemrs. Everyone should try to develop their own style and approach. Otherwise, I would recommend a short haircut and a decent shave to make the copy of Bjorn Nyland's channel perfect.
@BatteryLife
3 жыл бұрын
I don't get it. Insult or compliment?
@uwehopfner7435
3 жыл бұрын
@@BatteryLife I never want to insult you any way. I miss your personal style of your vids that make them unique. When you read my comment you will understand that my reaction has nothing to do with insult. Your reaction makes me sad.
@BatteryLife
3 жыл бұрын
The Beginning sounds like a compliment, but then I am a Björn copy. I do my videos the way that I think they should be. I like to believe, I put more emotions in my videos than Björn. But of course we are very similar.
@uwehopfner7435
3 жыл бұрын
@@BatteryLife I think you will not understand me. Testing ev's is good, do it the same way like others I do not like. That is all I want to say.
@BatteryLife
3 жыл бұрын
And I think I put,my own opinion more in the videos. If I don't like something, I say it. Too much sometimes. ;)
@christophecarare3944
3 жыл бұрын
I have the same 95 EDC essence . 200 kms a 130 km/h : 1h30 and 12 litres essence : 18 euros . Électric car not good for the moment ! What a pity don t wanna swap our places
@maarten7282
3 жыл бұрын
Four Nein Nein Nein ;)
@lucianodibernardo1546
3 жыл бұрын
VW e-Up is number one City-car !!!
@arnold_2523
3 жыл бұрын
Highway to Hell 😂 . It didn't rapidgate? Or is this pack actively cooled ? Now please a 120kmh 500km challenge 👹
@PT63
3 жыл бұрын
Twingo has water-cooled battery. A huge benefit compared to VW e-up! With 120 km/h the trip will need additional time. The sweetspot for Twingo is nearly that 94 km/h (around 90 km/h real). The faster you drive, the later you will arrive. ;) But 8 times charging is too often. 4 charging stops would be fine.
@BatteryLife
3 жыл бұрын
If the chargers are available in the distance you need.
@Ljosi
3 жыл бұрын
Wait, you have to actually pay to charge your EV? Defeats the whole point of driving an EV.. Divide battery cost over 10 years plus paying to charge and the extra cost of an EV itself.. it all comes to be more expensive per km than driving a small fuel efficient lpg or diesel
@ibarkovic
3 жыл бұрын
You have a point. I have to buy a new car and I have spent last month calculating what is the total cost of ownership over 10 years of a diesel vs EV and it is very close but EV is still a bit cheaper + it does not polute. 12 years ago, I have paid 9000Euro for my Renault Megane 1.5 diesel and I have calculated that I have spent just over 20000 Euro for the fuel (I have done 320000km with that car, average cons. is 4.8-5 lit/100km). A new Zoe ZE 50 would cost me 20000 Euro, if I charge it at night at my home and if the prices of the eletricity does not change much in next 10 years it would cost me around 5000Euros for charging. Diesel has a lot of spare parts and requires servicing, EV does not as much. All in all, i think EVs cost less :-)
@barryh1477
3 жыл бұрын
That’s what you call a rock bottom charger
@jean-claudevijt4695
3 жыл бұрын
You get what you want to pay.
@Hoinar9
3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Please don`t use any 2x,4x, 8x etc speed. It make me sick of motion. Thank you. Normal speed is much appreciated.
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