2:30 Potentially valuable tip to share with your customers: Don't bend copper wires back and forth any more than absolutely necessary, as doing so induces stiffness in the metal which ultimately leads to fatigue and breakage. This holds especially true with solid copper leads.
@__McLovin___
4 ай бұрын
Even more true with the cheap CCA wiring you are seeing more and more these days
@aa025131
3 жыл бұрын
All I have seen you do was connect the power from the alarm system keypad to the 12v to 5v converter. However, the green and yellow would be required to actually interface with the alarm panel to operate. Please tell me you just skipped a section, because you mentioned the connected and showed a small interface that I thought the green and yellow wires would go in that required the 12v power supply.
@LyonsAlly
5 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video of how an exit and entry would work... Eg when the codes are entered for arm and disarm, as I am guessing that is all behind a code
@TheRemyRomano
6 жыл бұрын
Did I miss the part where action tiles interfaces with the alarm panel? I know it works with smart things but I’m not getting the alarm panel integration.
@MHA_UK
6 жыл бұрын
so you simply got rid of the keypad but instead of filling in the hole and setting up a tablet that you can have anywhere in the house you stuck it on the wall? Why would you bother with a tablet stuck on a wall instead of one you can take anywhere in the house or...................... use your smart phone!!!!!?
@nosirrahm
4 жыл бұрын
Mark Anderson - this is giving people the ability to also arm/disarm their alarm from a panel like their old panel used to do. If you have guests, not everyone is going to have access to your smartthings app on their phone to arm/disarm or search for the wandering tablet.
@BillyBob-os7kr
4 жыл бұрын
You r better of using his board that can piggy back the system and let u know the state of everything but if u r keeping the vista panel and u want a better keypad look up a tuxedo key pad there nice. I do security.
@rb5235
6 жыл бұрын
Looking good to have a solution in doing away with old outdated "dumb" system like my DSC with a 1832 board. Hope you guys are thinking about us with wireless sensors too, DSC is 433mhz. You should come up with a extension box that mounts right over the old hole then the Fire panel mounts on top of the extension box. Wiring and adapter all go inside of the box witch would only be 3/4 inch deep. Would make a nice clean mounting solution.
@joefloe
6 жыл бұрын
If you're willing it's possible to change your old wireless sensors to z-wave door sensors. There are numerous types including your typical contact sensors to hinge sensors which have a "cleaner" appearance in my opinion.
@ArsenGirlGaming
5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all you do for the Smartthings community!
@revolution3797
4 жыл бұрын
That would be really cool if you sold diy kits. I ordered a amocam door bell with with little TV entercom inside the house so I could see who rings doorbell. The power supply runs both the doorbell and the intercom inside the house. Then plugs into an outlet to run both. How would you convert instead of a plug-in make it a hardwire like you just did,? Can I run the power supply to the doorbell wiring??
@Fartquarium
6 жыл бұрын
Hello, I'm curious why, in your alarm panel, you wouldn't connect the Red wire to one of your 5V leads. Then you can simply splice a micro USB cable onto the end and have 5V coming straight from the wall instead of a big 12V to 5V converter wall wart.
@SDRplayRSP
5 жыл бұрын
Put the voltage converter in the main panel and just send 5V down to the keypads would be the way to go!
@kevbeek1
6 жыл бұрын
Manufacturing a micro USB dock and having the tablet mount into it would eliminate most of the ugliness of the power cord profile and would look more professional. The mount being on the bottom would also secure the tablet to the wall with correct wall anchors.
@basschica
6 жыл бұрын
I re-used the old backplates from my old panels, glued in some pieces of wood to raise it out a bit and put dual-lock on the pieces of wood. In the "rececessed areas, I hid wires and mounted my piezo buzzers for door chimes. There's literally a million ways you could do it, but I agree, hiding cables is cleaner. There's lockable wall mounts too like you'd see in commercial settings that probably set you back almost $100 a piece, but no one would steal the tablets/tamper with them and it would be clean. Honestly, a reecessed wall mount would be the most slick. I think mine turned out ok and I only needed to buy some more dual-lock, but I had the spare wood laying around from 1x2s.
@allanh844
2 жыл бұрын
Is there any keypad solution that is just a key pad similar to legacy panels?
@andrewvelasquez2536
6 жыл бұрын
Do you have one that everything is flush and clean. I really dont was to see the wire or the hole.
@joshpierre07
6 жыл бұрын
You can use a housing to try and hide the cables if you use a mainstream tablet. Alternatively, you can look at right angle USB outlets to dive right back into the wall.
@WorkcreativelyOrg2
6 жыл бұрын
This is a fair question given that he referred to "those ugly wired alarm system keypads" in the video description above. Ugly or not, those keypads have built-in resiliency not present in the Konnected solution, from what I can tell. They require neither a wifi nor an internet connection, for one. And there are other solutions that allow you to keep both your existing alarm keypads and your wall-mounted Action Tiles tablets and have the two work together. That's significant not only for increased robustness of the system, but note that all those Honeywell wireless exterior door sensors use one of the keypads for wireless communication. Rip that keypad out and all of your existing wireless sensors (with really good range, I might add) suddenly stop working.
@rg7145
5 жыл бұрын
I visited your website. Great idea, I wish you well.
@niravniel561
3 жыл бұрын
Hi, can you please tell me how do you do a tile that open a popup with options and then closes? like the arm and disarm
@BillyBob-os7kr
4 жыл бұрын
Why WHY is that not tucked into the wall. And then cover the hole with tablet and have the little power cord just plug in so much more cleaner u have great ideas though
@VideoNOLA
3 жыл бұрын
Maybe even a 90-degree USB adapter so it doesn't jut out the side of the table? :-)
@chada472
3 жыл бұрын
To be able to program an older system like DSC 832 you would still need the keypad to program.
@JulioCandelaria
4 жыл бұрын
Hello Nate, about ready to install my system. How would you recommend securing the tablet so it's easy to get into to arm and disarm etc., but keep hackers out so they can't hack the smarthome? Any recommendations would be appreciated. Getting excited!
@WolframWebers
4 жыл бұрын
Thing is, how do you control your alarm in case you're having a network and/or power outage? That's probably the biggest attack surface for a burglar: knowing/seeing from outside, that you're using a tablet... You have to ensure your network access even at a power outage.
@nosirrahm
4 жыл бұрын
Wolfram Webers - battery backup like standard alarm systems.
@WolframWebers
4 жыл бұрын
@@nosirrahm well, in that case you need to make sure your all your network nodes are battery backed up. That's not like a normal alarm controller, which usually has a 3G/4G access as an alternative.
@xplorefurther
Жыл бұрын
You can make an outlet with USB plug. That will make the wall looks perfect
@MrRobc81
6 жыл бұрын
I clicked the link to the usb converter and its no longer available through amazon. I found similar ones there but as i was reading reviews i saw that some of these converters can catch on fire. Have you had any problems?
@patelismail2869
9 ай бұрын
nice
@TheNewports
4 жыл бұрын
what do the other 2 wires do. They are connected to my control panel on the other end
@bulldog3494
5 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video if your alarm system uses Multiple ESP8266 boards and how to connect to Home assistant
@sag2987
6 жыл бұрын
Nate this is an interesting idea. Does Konnected make a panel that will allow me to turn the alarm/siren on my security system remotely through my cell phone if I get a motion detection from one of my security cameras while I'm away? I'd like to be able to remotely turn the alarm on if an intruder were to somehow defeat the window or door sensors and gain access. Although a neat idea, I'm not really interested in changing all my keypads.
@vickk7391
5 жыл бұрын
Konnected does make that.
@josephlore4831
Жыл бұрын
what happened to green and yellow wire?
@SilkyBlacc
5 жыл бұрын
Can I use action tiles on a wired system? I do not want to purchase any extra hardware, just use the preexisting sensors.
@emagrill
6 жыл бұрын
Is there an tablet with the charge connector in the back so you can hide the wires? I guess you could use one that supports wireless charging.
@OakInch
3 жыл бұрын
I am pretty sure you didn't need to pull off your alarm panel to do that. Also, since you are running the phone app on your tablet, I suspect it no longer requires a disarm code. So anyone can walk up and disarm your alarm after breaking in.
@RayForrester
6 жыл бұрын
Could I use the tablet as a chime also (when doors are opened)
@basschica
6 жыл бұрын
Ray, this is done with a piezo buzzer (like you'd have in a computer power for system post). With Konnected, you use the "smart lighting" app to get triggered when a door opens and that then sends the momentary switch signal (you can specify number/lengths of beeps).
@TheEcdysis
5 жыл бұрын
I also think you could use the two other wires connected to a zone to connect the buzzer in the same location as the tablet.
@teamchemtrailpilot
6 жыл бұрын
When are you going to ship? I purchased back on January 6th....
@gavinwalsh5238
6 жыл бұрын
nice idea
@jmcafee6564
5 жыл бұрын
Has anyone found a low price but reasonably attractive frame for a Fire 7 tablet wall mount that also conceals the USB to USB connector and 90 degree plug? Without the frame, everything must fit behind the tablet in the wall hole. It works, but probably not to code. Just asking.
@francescozaccaria684
5 жыл бұрын
You tell me which siren works outside with this shockproof system. I didn't find any. Maybe I can't look for it. Those on the Bangood site seem unsuitable to me.
@SDRplayRSP
5 жыл бұрын
My siren is attic mounted, but if you want to go outside try something like this: www.amazon.com/Products-Siren-Indoor-Outdoor-6-12VDC/dp/B0058M0R80?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_10 Setup instructions are shown on the konnected website install videos.
@jdlemme
5 жыл бұрын
@Nate Can I just use the AUX power output from the Konnected board to supply 5v directly to the tablet?
@Konnected-io
5 жыл бұрын
No, that's not recommended. The AUX output is 12V. You need to use a 12V to 5V USB converter to get 5V for the tablet.
@stefhendrik
6 жыл бұрын
great video's
@joshuakennington1168
4 жыл бұрын
Can you still use an external keypad for arming disarming the alarm? my uncle would never take out his phone to disarm the alarm and putting a tablet outside in the garden is unlikely to happen. What I really miss is a simple bug free keypad which can arm disarm the alarm. Can the iSmartAlarm KP3 keypad be connected to this alarm? thank you
@chalamministries
4 жыл бұрын
the IRIS keypad works with Smartthings and you can use it to arm and disarm. But you have to do some programming.
@chalamministries
4 жыл бұрын
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@kennygreen4331
6 жыл бұрын
Can I buy the 7 inch tablet and the 12v USB converter adapter and the SmartThings hub and use it to change my dsc original keypad and use my original panal and then buy the konnected later when it's more easier to join SmartThings and do all that set up its to confusing Thanks
@basschica
6 жыл бұрын
Nope...not unless DSC makes some kind of smartApp/smart home interface that can talk to its own legacy panels (I am assuming they do not).
@juliod7024
3 жыл бұрын
So what happens if the Burglar breaks in trough the front door and rip the keypad of the wall and destroys it before is able to send a signal. What happens if the Burglary cuts your internet service outside your house before breaking in?
@jasonchipkin
6 жыл бұрын
How does the tablet receive all of the data signals from the existing (hard wired) security alarm system?
@jasonchipkin
6 жыл бұрын
Konnected ok i see now. Your Konnected board converts the signals. Does it work with ADT Pulse?
@dkjames1971
6 жыл бұрын
Jason Chipkin I thought there was a converter to use tablet as alarm keypad. when you abondoned the yellow and green wire that kills any chance of communication to alarm system. Basically you're using auxiliary power from alarm panel to power tablet. Was hoping to see a virtual keypad type thing to use with alarm panel keypad was connected to with the addition of using tablet to control other home automation, camera apps.
@joireland
6 жыл бұрын
You say that SmartThings is a cloud service. Does this solution work if there's only local network connectivity and your ISP network connection is offline?
@larrybuchler8842
6 жыл бұрын
Jason Chipkin
@lamoul003
4 жыл бұрын
I am using ADT Alarm system using smart panel and GSM. I can use any smart device to arm/disarm the alarm system anywhere around the world as long as i have internet connection. The contract is finished. Now i want to be able to use existing motion detectors, doors/windows detectors (all wired) with new panel (tablet, cell phone or new smart panel alarm system). Any advice? Thanks, L.A
@chalamministries
4 жыл бұрын
You should be able to use all of the existing sensors and motion detectors. Their support is really great if you need help. You can also purchase a 3d printed mount for the tablet. I'm about to do my first official install in a friends new home. All smartthings with ActionTiles and using Konnected as the alarm. Thing to note though....Right now the modules are wifi only. IF YOU CHANGE YOUR WIFI OR GET A NEW ROUTER, YOU WILL HAVE TO REPROGRAM EVERYTHING. So what I'm doing is getting a TPLink access point that is powered via POE and setting up an SSID just for home automation. (tablets, konnected, smart bulbs that dont use a hub, etc). That way, if I ever decide to change the home wifi, its on a different system and wont affect my home automation. But since it ties into the main router, and is not a router itself, (just access point) then users can connect to main home wifi and still control the devices.
@Konnected-io
4 жыл бұрын
You DON'T have to reprogram everything if you change your WiFi. Just reconnect to the new Wifi network. The rest of the settings are independent of WiFi and the device will resume working on the new network.
@OakInch
3 жыл бұрын
Look up the Ring retrofit kit. I did the same thing with an old wired ADT system.
@glo303
5 жыл бұрын
Are there any tablets out there you recommend for this that might have a rear usb input for a cleaner install
He didn’t put it into the wall because he needs to easily reverse what he did because he’s in a rental (he can’t make the hole larger to put everything in the wall).
@squirrelsrus1
6 жыл бұрын
Hi Nate. What is the URL you are using for weather information?
@squirrelsrus1
6 жыл бұрын
Oh I see later on... it's your local TV station.
@andrewjones3606
5 жыл бұрын
Will konected work with zigbee o xwave pirs and door sensors. Will you be launching your own pirs cause exsting ones are bulky
@guerrinoboscolo5067
4 жыл бұрын
Love the fact the latest model has ethernet wiring instead of wifi only.. however a missing keypad is even worse than that.. someone should figure out how to make a stamdard keypad work with this product
@wdeagle
6 жыл бұрын
Do you know how I would go about getting power to the wires? The home came pre-wired for an alarm system but we never used it and there is no power coming to the red/black wires.
@vertronbussey8489
6 жыл бұрын
aawg_au Do you have alarm equipment installed in the home currently?
@wdeagle
6 жыл бұрын
Vertron Bussey yes. Equipment is installed but we've never used it. I found the panel box where it's connected and the transformer is there, just don't know how to wire it and send power to the keypad area.
@MrsLisaScott
6 жыл бұрын
My box is powered by the alarm system. My alarm is in a separate room. And there are plugs in that room to it. When it is plugged in, the keypad gets juice too.
@alexr1200
11 ай бұрын
Correct me if I’m wrong but wouldn’t this render a burglar alarm useless. With Ring you typically need to enter a code upon entry to deactivate. With this app it seems all you have to do is tap “disarm”.
@danpena4472
3 жыл бұрын
I have an alarm, it is hard wired.. It is not wifi and I do not want wifi, how would this work with just powering the tablet and an app? Makes no sense to me. The other 2 wires would need to be connected some how for the 2 units to *talk*.
@Konnected-io
3 жыл бұрын
The table communicates to SmartThings via WiFi. It doesn't "talk" directly to the alarm panel.
@danpena4472
3 жыл бұрын
@@Konnected-io Thank you it's a little confusing because it's a bit vague..
@blueion4019
5 жыл бұрын
Will this work with adt?
@Konnected-io
5 жыл бұрын
No. They don't like to play nice with others.
@sandilempontshane4308
6 жыл бұрын
i think i missed something here, where did u connect the data cables?
@NateClark1
6 жыл бұрын
Sandile Mpontshane I didn't.
@sandilempontshane4308
6 жыл бұрын
i think it will be much better if you do another clip showing us how do u get the tablet (action tiles) to interact with the alarm system.
@NateClark1
6 жыл бұрын
You don't have to do anything special. Konnected interacts with SmartThings, and ActionTiles interacts with SmartThings. The tablet does not directly talk to the alarm system. SmartThings is your home automation hub, and that's the role of the hub to tie all of your smart devices together.
@Mr19901993
6 жыл бұрын
Nate Clark what your wtup Sandile please
@mkcoys
6 жыл бұрын
How does the tablet read your wired connections through smart things?
@kvaisman
6 жыл бұрын
Can I use my current keypad with Konnected?
@basschica
6 жыл бұрын
No
@quank32
5 жыл бұрын
Now you can. A new Konnected product just came out
@BK-ij9sf
5 жыл бұрын
@@quank32 HI Brad. Really? Do you have a link to this? Having a hard time finding ant reference to the new product.
@quank32
5 жыл бұрын
@@BK-ij9sf Here you go. It's called the "Konnected Interface" konnected.io/products/konnected-alarm-panel-interface-for-wired-security-systems
@BK-ij9sf
5 жыл бұрын
@@quank32 Thanks Brad!
@williammanzie5446
6 жыл бұрын
What happens to the alarm system when there is no power?
@williammanzie5446
6 жыл бұрын
Konnected, thank you... I guess I was thinking more along the lines of communication out. If there is no powers then there is no WiFi, no WiFi no alerts going out correct? I would like to make the switch but I want to make sure it will fully protect my house and family.
@williammanzie5446
6 жыл бұрын
Konnected Thank you for your time answering my questions. I will definitely read read through the article you linked here. Now my next task is to go ahead and order the konnected board. Too bad I have to wait till February to implement this.
@BoxOfChocs
4 жыл бұрын
Hi - I can't see Konnected's reply - but I had the same question. I want to hook this up through Home Assistant - but if the wifi goes off or Home Assistant has an issue, will the Konnected still sound the alarm? Does the Konnected board essentially enter an 'armed' mode - as well as the Home Assistant? Thanks!
@BlueEyed888
6 жыл бұрын
Seems like it would make a whole lot more sense to do away with keypads altogether and just switch to a smartphone ap based system.
@ttight11
6 жыл бұрын
OMG NO! You are asking to have a no security security system.
@n4mwd
4 жыл бұрын
Obviously something very important was left out of the video. You can't simply cut your alarm panel wires and slap a tablet to the wall in place of the wired keypad. Chances are, the wired alarm panel would detect the missing wired keypad as a tamper condition and sound the siren. In order to keep the wired panel happy, it will need something wired in where the keypad goes.
@Sparx_the_furry
2 ай бұрын
Nope, I’m sticking with my old alarm. I like old things.
@francescozaccaria684
5 жыл бұрын
For my question before I would ask you to answer me in a very quiet way because I don't know English.
@michelevitarelli
3 жыл бұрын
Yikes! No wife wants that hanging in their hallway.
@MrDjmurdock
6 жыл бұрын
That is cool what bout a iPad
@NateClark1
6 жыл бұрын
you can use an iPad too. I'm using ActionTiles, which just runs in a web browser
@francescozaccaria684
5 жыл бұрын
55/5000 I meant the outdoor siren of this burglar alarm.
@gamerpickups6519
6 жыл бұрын
Basically just using power and sticking a tablet on the wall
@MrIsrael3000
5 жыл бұрын
You should hide the cables inside the wall... looks ugly.
@guerrinoboscolo5067
4 жыл бұрын
Imagine slapping a tablet in your front porch instead of a standard keypad... or using your smartphone instead of entering the key and having your smartphone run flat or be broken or not connecting to your wifi.. there is a keypad missing in the whole idea..
@DGtlRift
3 жыл бұрын
Good point - using an active USB repeater to extend beyond the USB 5m limit and interconnect into the Konnected system for direct communication and management would mitigate this, but I don’t think Konnected (yet) has that capability. I assume the board would need to act as the USB host controller for the display.
@hussainmohamed9462
6 жыл бұрын
son of a bitch
@ArgaTheRexouium
5 жыл бұрын
this system is not SIA licensed or UL listed which means it has NOT been tested and there is a POTENTIAL for it to fail. THIS ALSO DOESN'T WORK THE ADEMCO WIRELESS SYSTEMS
@lenny0272
6 жыл бұрын
DERRRR
@squalazzo
5 жыл бұрын
having a wifi alarm system, or a wifi alarm panel, is just DUMB... you had wired alarm panel, and wired keypad, and replaced them with wifi alternatives... any scriptkiddie can flash a deauther on a 3€ esp8266 and make your alarm COMPLETELY useless without even touching anything...
@ttight11
6 жыл бұрын
Wait!! So you spend $$$$$ to install and maintain a home alarm system and now you are compromising it by connecting to the wildly insecure internet so kids and thieves alike can play with your home security, Please tell me I'm wrong and why!
@basschica
6 жыл бұрын
SmartThings is already out on the Internet talking away with tall the devices anyway.... so...
@jmgraydz
6 жыл бұрын
Holy crap seriously please never touch wiring again.
@MrRobc81
6 жыл бұрын
Samantha Gray why do you say this. Is this not safe? Just curious because i wanted to do a similar thing only housed better
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