Just... Wow. Never seen such a legendary amplifier model fall into such disrepair. My neighbor has a '66 AB165 Bassman head "Helen" and it's a MARVELOUS piece of work. Considering its you, Lyle, your customer will end up with a working Bassman again soon!
@BXGuitars
Жыл бұрын
When you drop an amp off for repair and your bill includes a tetanus shot.
@mikewithers299
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@goodun2974
Жыл бұрын
Anybody who works in the trades should get a tetanus shot every 3 years. This also applies to gardeners and people who dig in the soil regularly. Tetanus spores can survive dormant in soil and dust for hundreds of years until they get inside a cut or flesh wound. My wife had a patient who contracted tetanus while digging in her garden and she spent months in the hospital in a medically induced coma, on life support. She eventually woke up but suffered permanent neurological deficits.
@travismccartney
Жыл бұрын
When Lyle says "I've never seen one this bad" I know we are in for something 'interesting'.
@MarkEagleton
Жыл бұрын
Wow, wow, wow! I doubt I’m the only one here who would LOVE to see a detailed restoration video of this.
@waltimedes
Жыл бұрын
It's time to get some ad revenue on part 2. "SATISFYING guitar amp restoration! You won't BELIEVE the transformation!" Good luck bud!
@PsionicAudio
Жыл бұрын
The one simple trick!!!!
@K707OR30
Жыл бұрын
“Negligent amp owners HATE him”
@goodun2974
Жыл бұрын
" With circles and arrows explaining the evidence against him!" (a line from "Alice's Restaurant"). I hate seeing that stuff on KZitem thumbnail photos.
@chokkan7
Жыл бұрын
Leo and his crew, utilizing what were at the time very limited resources, crafted some of the best guitar amps for the price that have ever been available, and they were on sale to anyone able to meet the very reasonable asking price. That doesn't mean that the new owner had the slightest idea as to how to care for his purchase (or even the inclination to do so). Go figure... That said, I'm curious to watch you work your magic on this, Lyle...will stay posted. Frankly, I'm surprised that you haven't seen more of these in the Memphis area.
@sharkair2839
Жыл бұрын
just need a relic strat to top things off.
@nikkisimpson1835
Жыл бұрын
This is an exciting one for us viewers for sure! While I agree that it's unfortunate this amp was left to rust, I'd like to point out that no long ago these amps were not selling for much money $400-600 (less for one's in poor shape & less desirable circuits) and that was here in CA!...I still kick myself for not buying at least one! And this one looks like an AB165 which is not the most valuable of the black panel era...has a weird local negative feedback arrangement in the power amp. But these make great mod platforms.
@alanpecherer5705
Жыл бұрын
I remember Bassmans and Bandmaster heads going for $150 in the early 80's. As many as you could find. And I wasn't that interested.
@7171jay
Жыл бұрын
The owner of this amp should have donated it to you and walked away with his head hanging in shame. This amp is/was both an instrustrument and a piece of history that was neglected horribly. Hopefully he treats his dog better than this. It will be really wonderful to see you bring this fine amp back from the brink of the junkyard. A long time ago I owned a Bassman head that was just about the same year as this so it's especially difficult to see what happened to this one. Even as stupid 16 year old kid I was smart enough to take decent care of mine for the years that I owned it.
@BradsGuitarGarage
Жыл бұрын
Jolly good show ol' chap! You're finally getting amps in the kind of condition that I get!
@stevencraig
Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised to see so many comments advocating for heroic measures on the chassis. Where is the crowd of people who call you blasphemous just for changing out bad caps and resistors?
@LeeGee
Жыл бұрын
Strangely, I'm looking forward to part two!
@Java8427
Жыл бұрын
From Rustman to Bassman! Kyle you are a miracle worker. I have to greatly admire your optimism, skill and dedication to your craft when specimens like these arrive. I was really concerned about rust on the power and output transformers in regard to rust thru shorting of the laminations. Enough can’t be said of Leo’s great works of amplified art! Slowly but surely she spoke. Masterful work as always. I look forward to part 2.
@vadenk4433
Жыл бұрын
Lyle. Not Kyle
@Java8427
Жыл бұрын
@@vadenk4433 yes you’re right, It was airbrain I guess.
@bbmade
Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to watch this whole thing, but when you popped the back panel off I thought this was recovered from the Titanic 😂
@mikewithers299
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@obelusyt
Жыл бұрын
remove excess, use two coats of waterbased rust converter and seal with any rattlecan clear
@tchads_57
Жыл бұрын
Looks like a nice project. Mississippi + shed + time = rust. Who’d a thought. Looking forward to part 2.
@pgquin
Жыл бұрын
Wow, just wow. You have material here for a 12 part restoration series. 😢
@Puisheen
Жыл бұрын
Man, the way I gasped when you pulled the back panel! My god!
@MichaelSmith-rn1qw
Жыл бұрын
This would be a good project for a hobbyist who could take the time to remove everything from the chassis, send it out for sandblasting and powder coating, and work on the boards (doghouse, bias, main) while waiting for the chassis. Since you will be replacing the tube sockets, that already involves unsoldering a lot of wires to get the main board out. My main concern would be the integrity of the grounds. From what I saw the front and rear panels themselves don't appear to be in bad shape. Looking forward to the next video in this series!
@PsionicAudio
Жыл бұрын
I don’t think a hobbyist could do this. Well, not right.
@oldguy5381
Жыл бұрын
Very surprised, when you removed the back panel. It looked like a flood victim. Hope owner goes for the repairs. Looking forward to what the outcome will be. But first coffee.
@mikewithers299
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing. Hurricane Katrina flooded that area and what can you do. Can't save everything during times like that. Life and food first.
@houseofBuck
Жыл бұрын
I own 3 bassman's from the 60's. Hopefully, this one can be restored, they're very special amps. Rust can really mess up the grounds. Poor amp! 60's Fender chassis are built like 50's Chevy's like a rock and heavy as hell!
@SweeetJohnny
4 ай бұрын
It looks like it's been under a pier for decades, not like it's been in a garage or shed
@vayabroder729
Жыл бұрын
These are always worth it to bring back.
@SimonGotlieb
Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, been there a few times myself Lyle. I have a 1968 Jansen Bassman (very similar amp from New Zealand) in almost identical condition ready to go on the bench. You almost exactly matched what I will be doing to that amp. A good watch. Thanks.
@rinkydinky-ob9pe
Жыл бұрын
is it out of warranty ?
@75YBA
11 ай бұрын
It reminds me of the Cadillac in Ghostbusters when Akroyd first limps it into the garage. 😂
@Pstaines439
Жыл бұрын
This makes me feel better about 'The Twin' I'm working on.
@setheverhart
Жыл бұрын
Before the shed, James Cameron pulled this thing off the ocean floor.
@chriskrueger1865
Жыл бұрын
Leave all the cool "heavy relic" elements
@thomaschan8844
Жыл бұрын
Astonishing how rugged those designs are.
@6AM_YT
Жыл бұрын
After the apocalypse all that will be left will be cockroaches and Fender blackfaces.
@Satchmoeddie
Жыл бұрын
Any heavy equipment repair shop, many mechanic's shops, most welding shops will have a glass beading media blast chamber and be cheaper than a machine shop. If you ask nicely and promise not to blast the window on their chamber, one of those shops might let you have at it yourself with their blast cabinet for $10 or $20. That is typical leaky basement flood damage.
@zhinbaysen7581
Жыл бұрын
I would be scared to death to plug into this.
@alvagoldbook2
Жыл бұрын
That bassman is in brutal shape. But I know a lot of tricks about dealing with rust. Because rust is just a metal oxide, it expands greatly when adding an oxygen molecule. So a lot of rust can appear without losing too much metal. Mild acids will help clean it up, like vinegar, but be careful in that over enough time it can dissolve steel too.
@maksqwe1
Жыл бұрын
I’m restoring a sound city amp that’s been sitting in a mouldy pub back room, and I thought that was bad, but this is on another level. Side note - what’s your opinion on keeping the original mustard caps in amps? They’ve seen a LOT of moisture, so ideally I’d like to get them replaced but some people would argue that’s where the tone is. My ESR/LCR doesn’t register lower than about 10uF and most of them go into the nF range, so I can’t depend on its readouts. If replacing, NOS or substitutes? I’d rather the amp be working than original, and with electrolytics, sockets, a lot of resistors and other parts replaced, there won’t be much of the amp left!
@johnwilliamson467
Жыл бұрын
Given it was his primary amp for a time the bottom of the closet would be a better place for it to set. Given the fender amp has always had value to players this treatment is puzzling for me. For even old test equipment from the 60's get stored in a temp controlled place by me. My view is different than his on what I keep and own . Good luck there Lyle.
@odgeUK
Жыл бұрын
I've got a Selmer Treble & Bass Mk3 that was like this. Scrubbed the chassis pretty hard, as it appeared to be covered in Zinc Oxide (which I heard isn't a great thing to ingest, if you can avoid it). A great tech gave it a once over and replaced a few components but did say that the Transformers will always be an unknown, in terms of if they've really survived the corrosion, but they work right now! It's a ugly thing to be sure, but it does sound good!
@pgquin
Жыл бұрын
Rat rods are all the rage. Many you’ll start a trend for Rat Amps?
@MrAmptech
Жыл бұрын
Memphis? I would have thought more coastal for that amount of corrosion.
@davidfuller581
Жыл бұрын
I don't think I've ever opened an amp and gone "WTF" quite like that.
@charless6136
Жыл бұрын
I would strip the chassis bare and boil it for half an hour, it will convert the red oxide to black oxide. Scotchbrite to knock down the fuzz, and lacquer or shellac to seal it.
@Steve-wz5pz
7 ай бұрын
That's not RUST, it's PATINA!!! Worth EXTRA cash to the vintage gear gang!
@pauldavis6356
Жыл бұрын
How many hurricane floods do you think this thing lived through?
@randyrich2039
Жыл бұрын
I restored old motorcycles and cars, my suggestion is to take it all apart and use wire wheels on both a bench grinder and hand drill. That works pretty fast but is messy, wear old clothes and mask. It's nasty looking but actually just mostly surface rust, not quite rot yet. Stay away from chemicals; solvents etc. they cause cancer. You could spray paint the chassis with high heat silver paint (it's at the auto parts and or hardware stores), it'll look very close to the old plating and will fill in a lot of the pits, the paint is for steam radiators and BBQ's. Painting it would be a lower cost than re-plating. Sending it out for re-plating will take a lot of time (they're always behind) and it still won't look or be the same as the original plating. The rest you know what to do, I've watched your videos, you've got that covered. Great videos. Try my method you'll save big $$$, shops are expensive.
@fletches4084
Жыл бұрын
I'm shufflin' through the Texas sand, but the rust's in Mississippi... (apologies to Billy and the boys) That is just nasty. If it can be saved then testament to the skills of the first responder. May be strip everything off the chassis and give it a nice bath in something acidic to clear all the corrosion followed by a dip in a suitable anti-oxidant. Better living through chemistry.
@paulromsky9527
Жыл бұрын
It looks like it was used in a humid environment with wild temperature swings near a salty air coastline... Florida perhaps? Kept in a cool dry climate controlled place, then moved out to play in a non-climate controlled place, like shed, on hot humid nights so that moisture collected on the cool metal parts and caused corrosion.
@fredfrederici7562
Жыл бұрын
oh man . thats sad
@ttyR265
Жыл бұрын
I'd look at fine grit Roloc disks for the big rust spots, followed by the fine sandpaper.
@danjohnston3422
Жыл бұрын
Everything is repairable, given time and cubic miles of hundred dollar bills. :) Poor thing looks like it's been stored in a well. Good luck with it, mate. She's a sad, sad case.
@cee128d
Жыл бұрын
And I thought my old Blackface Bandmaster looked bad. Good luck with it.
@Robert-Smith
Жыл бұрын
Just a suggestion use wd and Scotchbrite pad you will like the results also if you can us a random orbital sander with the Scotchbrite pad on big flat areas. I would think a brown pad or green you can get different grits.
@goodun2974
Жыл бұрын
A piece of scotchbrite pad glued to a used, dull blade on an oscillating multitool might be useful for cleaning tight spots like interior corners of the chassis.
@jayslabotsky462
4 ай бұрын
Evapo-Rust would work wonders and is pretty safe to use.
@sub-jec-tiv
7 ай бұрын
Did that come up from a shipwreck? 😢
@artysanmobile
Жыл бұрын
That’s been completely submerged, perhaps many times. I wouldn’t dream of powering it up. Strip to a bare chassis, fixing as you go. New pots, switches, connectors across the board. I wouldn’t bother cleaning/testing any of those components. I would not be surprised by a four-digit invoice.
@PsionicAudio
Жыл бұрын
Nope. No cabinet water damage, nothing on the inside, board isn’t warped. This was humidity damage not full water damage.
@franciscolopez3229
Жыл бұрын
Now this make me regret letting go of my blackface bassman 135 head.
@goodun2974
Жыл бұрын
Lyle, considering the likelihood of moist air being trapped inside the transformers from years of damp storage, do you put an amp in this condition into the oven at low temperature for an hour or two, or sit it in front of a sunny window in your air conditioned house for a few days, or put it over a radiator or heat vent in the winter, to dry out the transformers before powering it up?
@PsionicAudio
Жыл бұрын
Nah, this wasn’t flooded and the transformers don’t have much rust on them so I wasn’t concerned about that.
@goodun2974
Жыл бұрын
@@PsionicAudio , it looks like a condensation issue. Or perhaps something dripped on it......
@richardweza3369
Жыл бұрын
It’s a awesome amp! I would make a Fender Bassman version of a rat rod out of it. Restore functionality to your usual perfection and hide it behind that vintage cabinet that was uncovered after decades of neglect. 🤘
@jagtone
Жыл бұрын
"The potential is there." I see what you did! :-D
@RobbieF
Жыл бұрын
That poor Bassman. I hope your customer decides to save this amp. If not, please let me know ... I would be happy to purchase it and fund its restoration.
@patreidcocolditzcastle632
3 ай бұрын
wow what a effect the rust is ha ahahaha made in a movie set..yeah its old and sounds good i bet some think ha haha .i think the patina will be kinda cool after you clean this .never seen a amp as bad as this one. must be humid were he comes from.soft wire brush and some gumption look gorgeous imo.but nort a finish i would want to try and make ha ahahaha..hey this is a great channel your work is amazing..shame your 10,000 kms and oceans away
@duncan-rmi
Жыл бұрын
"that'll buff out" take the glass out & get a wire brush. that thing'll outlive us all.
@duncan-rmi
Жыл бұрын
seriously, clear-coat it. that's nice patina.
@Gtrtech
Жыл бұрын
Wow...that would have to be stripped to bare chassis and sent out for replating. Don't let.your amo sleep anywhere you wouldn't sleep. Criminal...
@AICD1999
Жыл бұрын
Have you ever used Evaporust? works well. Arent these amps about $1500?
@alexbales2067
Жыл бұрын
Not one of the worst bassmans, the worst amps, but the worst things
@jimbeaux4988
Жыл бұрын
Oh...thats nasty.😂 Inside is still not as bad as that one Vox.
@YTPartyTonight
Жыл бұрын
In the beginning that looked tragic. If you can bring that amp back from the brink I think it would be a heroic save, at least in this realm.
@peteleoni9665
Жыл бұрын
Obviously a Katrina victom.
@kevindonohue8918
Жыл бұрын
Mathew Scott would love that thing
@Dr.Sheldor
Жыл бұрын
OOOOOOOhhhh! I hope the owner goes all in. What a GEM!
@luizdejesus6240
Жыл бұрын
If this was a car, I would say it needs a complete frame up restoration. 🙂 But then again, it is a 66/67 Bassman...
@dennisgreen1837
Жыл бұрын
Don't assume! My 1970 (build date) Twin Reverb came from the factory with a grounded power cord and the ground pin removed.
@PsionicAudio
Жыл бұрын
Don’t assume I was assuming. It’s obviously a non-original cable and the leads inside were spliced to the old ones.
@luthiervandros
Жыл бұрын
I've made a habit of opening old things outside the shop, where the air blaster lives. Don't breathe that debris in. Lol is that a bug zapper in the background? I've got one in my shop and I've become numb to random electrical sounds that seemed to only occur when I was testing caps. 😂
@sgt.grinch3299
Жыл бұрын
At what point should a human not attempt to salvage another man’s neglect? Criminal neglect.
@TheCyberMantis
Жыл бұрын
I would have chucked it in the nearest dumpster.
@davidreynolds6718
Жыл бұрын
Hi Lyle, are you able to disclose what the owner did that resulted in so much rust? Maybe in part II?
@oqsy
Жыл бұрын
My GUESS is a very very damp “garage or shed” as Lyle mentioned. Mississippi is insanely humid, and it likely got dusty (contaminants) and stewed for the 10 years mentioned. Mississippi weather cares not whether things are coated in chrome or zinc 😂. Being pretty local to Memphis, and having watched most of Lyle’s videos, he’s the only person I’d trust to revive this relic. Promising start! I hope the client and Lyle work out making the resurrection happen! Unfortunately, it’s not my money, so we’ll see!
@davidreynolds6718
Жыл бұрын
I live in Virginia. I have a 1964 Showman. Very little rust. I don't take it out much though. Pretty much never come to think of it lol.
@Tonetwisters
6 ай бұрын
I think this was a beach bunny ...
@soapboxearth2
Жыл бұрын
SWamp thing lives again !
@northmanlogging2769
Жыл бұрын
gasp mom hiss... Flood damage? this is the sort of bassman I could afford... and would probably spend 10 years and 12times the cost to get working again...
@Robstafarian
Жыл бұрын
I cannot imagine the smell!
@lordgraga
Жыл бұрын
You would think it was a clickbait title, but nope.
@cvdevol
Жыл бұрын
A real fixer-upper! LOL. Was it stored in a sauna or something??? I guess the question is will the owner pay the enormous cost for a full restoration?
@bartnettle
Жыл бұрын
There is now a safe on the skin water based rust converter on the market; scrape off, or stainless steel pot scourer the loose oxide and coat with the converter which will stabilize the existing rust which can be painted if you decide it is worth to preserve what is there
@debhart4302
Жыл бұрын
Look into Evapo-Rust for rust removal.
@benwright6330
Жыл бұрын
...retrieved from the titanic?
@DefconMaster
Жыл бұрын
Ever heard of Evaporust? That stuff works wonders at getting rid of surface rust and would probably save you a lot of work over WD-40 and sandpaper. Might be worth a try if you decide to go about making this thing look more presentable in the future.
@benwright6330
Жыл бұрын
..what Matters in on the In side.
@soapboxearth2
Жыл бұрын
I hope he wants you to tear it apart and rebuild it.
@chuckschillingvideos
Жыл бұрын
Naval jelly? WD-40? No. Evap O Rust or Phospho are much, much better for dealing with rust.
@klepetar
Жыл бұрын
to get rid of rust.. wine vinegar.. its magic..
@hotdotdog
Жыл бұрын
Flood recovery.
@geemac7267
Жыл бұрын
Rust never sleeps, right?
@dogchicken
Жыл бұрын
If you remove all the metal parts you can use electrolysis to remove all the rust easily.
@Chuffin_ell
Жыл бұрын
Don’t change the looks, it’s perfect. Maybe clean out the chassis, but just the guts. Damn, what I wouldn’t give to have one like it….
@honorharrington4546
Жыл бұрын
Evapo-rust is your friend.
@FaintSignals
Жыл бұрын
You can dredge it up from the bottom of the ocean, shake out the hermit crabs and it still works. Leo rules above all.
@goodun2974
Жыл бұрын
It wouldn't have surprised me to find a sculpin or a toadfish lurking in there.
@jrumiano
Жыл бұрын
Strip down the chassis and soak it in Evapo-rust. (much easier and more effective the WD40 and sand paper). The Evapo-rust will remove all of the corrosion with little or no extra work.
@TRtribal
Жыл бұрын
You could strip it down to the chassis and find a local gunsmith who can "convert" the rust off of all the parts. That, or you can set up a a home rust conversion kit where you can use electrolysis to effectively leech all the rust off of the surfaces. Once the rust is converted you can brush or wipe the rest of the rust off. At least, you'd get a better idea of what the metal looks like underneath all the rust and get it back to a fairly clean state.
@andyhightides
Жыл бұрын
It hurts my heart to see an amp in that condition. I rescued a late '64 Bandmaster that was left in a van in the woods for years. Luckily, it wasn't rusty, but internally, it was a cobbled up mess. Mismatched power tubes with new resistors tacked over old, tacked over old again, two crumbled sockets, seized pots, etc. The saddest part was the original Jensen's had been removed from the cab, and just left on the floor of the rusted out van for the squirrels. The amp is restored now, and my most prized possession.
@Burgschall
Жыл бұрын
Probably the worst case of zinc blooming I have ever seen, would recommend to wear gloves when touching to prevent zinc fever. I really love your attitude and passion digging into even such unhopeful cases and good to see/hear that there is still life in this unit. Maybe the best would be to strip it down completely, have the chassis dipped / passivated to get rid of the rust and then painted/powdercoated black...this would also distinguish this amp in his (hopefully realized) later life and fit into your Psionic Brand...and don't be shy doing that, LEo did a great job in creating it, you will do a great job in reviving it, so it's ok to leave fingerprints ;)
@PsionicAudio
Жыл бұрын
I washed my hands after removing the tube shields. Probably should have put on gloves - which says it all, really. Never had to wear gloves for tube shields before.
@johnb4024
Жыл бұрын
If your not welding it you are fine
@passionplayer7
Жыл бұрын
When you said, "let's spray some WD-40..." I heard let's Pray, lol Considering the look of things, I was ready to join you! Best of Luck on this one Lyle!
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