This reminded me of a match I had a few weeks ago. The details are kinda fuzzy, but I (as a postman iin solo) was paired with a prisoner, a coordinator and an acrobat who where up against a hermit. Coord got found first and got downed before any ciphers could pop and got acrobat injured in the process. Still, she hadn't wasted a gun and hunter brought blink so I figured she could do a decent rebound kite, so I saved her and gave her the speed boost letter (I also had tide). Not only did she not get downed through the rest of the match, but thanks to the cooperation from the rest of our team, we managed to pop all the ciphers and made the hunter surrender. So yeah, I do know agree that there are cases were it is worth to rescue at 5 ciphers, though as a solo player I generally don't do it much
@mellowmistel
Жыл бұрын
That's really cool! But yeah, when you're playing solo queue, it's much harder to coordinate with your teammates. ^^;
@pixxxxxxxxx5731
Жыл бұрын
NO WAY I WAS UR HUNTER LMAOOO IT WAS MY FIRST TIME PLAYING HERMIT…
@2frostbite273
Жыл бұрын
I got terror shocked accidentally at 5 ciphers one time, was really embarrassing, got rescued and did rebound kite through all 5 ciphers and we got a 4 man. Just cause someone gets tsed doesn’t always mean they’re bad they just may have made a mistake 😅
@ChoccyVamp
Жыл бұрын
i’ve seen so many people say that you shouldn’t rescue at 5 ciphers, but most of the time when no one rescues we end up in a lose, and when we do rescue we usually get a tie-win also, i’ve also been experiencing the fps drop issues, i thought it was just me because even at the lowest settings i still have them, glad to know i’m not alone :’)
@mellowmistel
Жыл бұрын
Oh, yeah! I've talked to some people who have experienced FPS drops after recent updates. It really sucks, though. :')
@poniko
Жыл бұрын
This is a seriously solid glimpse into how to support your teammates, keep a questionable random alive, and communicate effectively. It’s true that support is basically the greatest strength of survivor teams and often means the difference between a win and loss, but imo this is mostly relevant to three-four stack teams. As a solo player or duo player, I think selling becomes a lot more viable because communication and support are a solo/duo teams greatest weakness unless you know the kiter has the resources and skill to rebound without the support of two other people, aka when you don’t have to means to bring out the babysitting tactics (no offense lol). As a duo player and harasser main, my take on selling is that it’s a decision that has to be made based on who the hunter is and who your teammates are. If the hunter is a strong camper who relies on presence, selling your teammate may be the wisest thing to do - just to deny the hunter additional early presence and keep the survivors ahead in tempo. If the hunter is someone likely to harass ciphers and not hard camp, selling is less effective. What I think it comes down to is that selling/saving from an early down is a gamble either way - just depends on what kind of risk your team comp is better prepared to take. Even a single competent harasser can’t keep a teammate with no game sense/kiting ability alive once they run out of items themselves or get downed for interfering, especially if the hunter is a much greater danger at full presence. I do know that, as a duo player, selling easily makes a draw obtainable from a camping hunter in high griff, but by selling you’re also almost always giving up the win. My fellow solo/duo players are all out here praying for the kind of coordination and communication you showed in these matches 😭
@kinmoreira
Жыл бұрын
I usually rescue at 5 ciphers bc if i don't, the hunter will switch targets and if the second kiter also dies fast we will have someone past half life and another being chaired Also i tried both strategies with randoms and the rescuing one worked me the best
@PWNDON
Жыл бұрын
13:42 THAT PALLET HAD ME FLABBERGASTED
@NeoZeta
10 ай бұрын
I've had so many people pull this on me... you won't even believe it.
@jellypuppy381
Жыл бұрын
This mostly happens to me in rank, a teammate goes down and I'm the only one who ends up rescuing cause number one, I'm the only one with tide turner and lastly number two, no one wants to rescue. I basically main Luca and Eli, and I use rescue traits on both of them cause no one wants to play rescuer anymore.
@gabrielmartins7642
Жыл бұрын
Hunter main here, in high tier loads of people sell, but that really helps me, since I might be loosing some ciphers but the pressure I get from this is much bigger. The games I end up loosing are the ones that they keep rescuing with tied and making me waste a bunch of time
@kristhefallen
Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of a match I had with me, my two friends, and a Mercenary we were paired with(don't remember who the hunter was but for simplicity sake, let's say Geisha). One of my friends was chaired and I was still decoding(and I think I was too far but either way I couldn't save). Here's the thing about WHERE they were chaired: they were chaired near the cipher the Mercenary was decoding at. Now, knowing that the Mercenary has a decode debuff and that Mercenary IS a rescuer, the merc player went off to save my fr- HAH just kidding, HE DIDNT SAVE MY FRIEND! My other friend(who was playing toy merchant i think dont remember) had to go rescue and the MERC STILL DIDNT HELP! BARELY! Not to mention that he also intentionally messed up the cipher calibrations at a cipher I was going to, and had my friends not alerted me about that(we were in vc btw), I would've been found. In the end, we went to the post match and CALLED THAT MERC OUT. His excuse? "Well someone was going to save, plus its too early". DUDE, YOU'RE THE MERCENARY! YOUR JOB IS TO RESCUE! I understand that everyone hates getting downed at 5 ciphers and its a pain to rescue in the first place, BUT WHY PLAY THE RESCUE CHARACTER IF YOU'RE GOING TO COMPLAIN ABOUT RESCUING?! Absolutely ridiculous man,
@KwarePlays
Жыл бұрын
I hate those kind of people whenever you say "Don't rescue me!" And then the team mate goes to untie them. Like I get you are trying to help your team to help the survivor who got chaired and rescue he/her but they specifically told you too not rescue them.
@shenro9377
Жыл бұрын
Honestly when people get down after a 5 sec kite and say don’t rescue me it makes me even more angry.
@KwarePlays
Жыл бұрын
@@shenro9377 How come? Because they didn't try?
@CheerLadder
Жыл бұрын
@@KwarePlays because its like throwing, they can be rescued but refuse to
@CheerLadder
Жыл бұрын
@@Your_Mom498 it still looks like throwing, how they gonna help by just sitting there at 5 ciphers?
@CheerLadder
Жыл бұрын
@@Your_Mom498they can just not play as survivor then, its weird to have my match ruined by someone who refuse help in a TEAM faction, lost but atleast try bruh
@ryorafael4511
Жыл бұрын
Omg it's so nice finally seeing old players come back. I felt like everyone forget about this ..
@aki_7778
Жыл бұрын
I'm glad to see you're back, your videos are always so creative and the explanations so detailed, I love them. I main Merc in rank since most people don't want to play rescuer, and there are many things to take into account (who is the hunter, how far are you from chair, is the chair in a bad place, do they have items etc.), but I usually try to give a second chance to the person chaired, because sometimes we're just unlucky. I once rescued after half a Prisoner that went down at 5 ciphers and he managed to kite until last cipher was primed with Batter support, and it was a win. So yeah, teamwork is the most important thing when playing survivor, I wish more people understood that instead of being toxic to others for making mistakes and making everything worse.
@vodakabunno6146
Жыл бұрын
this and a lot of survivors can do very good rebound kites, when my team doesn't do a rescue we usually end with a lose
@kimeiindoublelayerdisguise7296
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your hardwork! I actually missed your videos quite a lot. I can tell you put a lot of care into the editing and it makes the video really entertaining💪
@lillyyana9910
Жыл бұрын
If you have harrasser or survivor that can protect themselves like seer, forward,anti etc it is fine. If no harrasser or survivor with strong item, it is better to go for the tie.
@guesswho3621
Жыл бұрын
Finally. Your guides are so helpful, I was rlly getting impatient for a new video😭Btw, could you do a guide for kiting night watch since he is a new hunter?
@mellowmistel
Жыл бұрын
Oh, yeah! I'm planning on that. xD I haven't met many players playing the new hunter, so I'll probably make one after he's in shop!
@SomeoneHeree
Жыл бұрын
ok but the game comunication sound like some sounds took from csgo, great video as always
@lebinok-
Жыл бұрын
OH SO THIS IS PROBABLY WHY I'VE BEEN LOSING ALL MY RANK MATCHES RECENTLY HELPP THANKS A LOT THIS IS VERY USEFUL
@CadaverKuma
Жыл бұрын
THAT DOCTOR LMAOOOO
@chia.petals
Жыл бұрын
i know right ffff😭 also that communication and team cooperation is top tier, we need that one day lol.
@luvylu1
Жыл бұрын
She got completely carried by her teammates 😭
@Destormon
Жыл бұрын
@@luvylu1 she cannot kite, camps at pallets And get easily mind gamed 🤦♂️ people like this shouldn’t play rank. They get carried hella hard.
@ohno7153
Жыл бұрын
that doctor is the reason why there’s never any pallets endgame.
@obsiaxe5406
Жыл бұрын
3:50 thing is that some hunters get destroyed by harassing by not getting the down quick enough, even if only 2 ciphers get done* if nobody got chaired after 2 ciphers i'm pretty sure you're at advantage. Early harass as batter and wildling is fine, for forward for example no he's better for rebound.
@LinhKHoang-xu7ed
Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the guide because i am a solo survivor main my whole life (somehow got to legendary just through solo queueing) and these tips are extremely helpful
@SirBiszkop
Жыл бұрын
I remember them i got downed at 5 ciphers and after i got rescued (after the half but still) i kitted almost entire match (got downed at last cipher machine but it was almost done)
@bunny-mi2yw
Жыл бұрын
love the intro! 💗 glad you’re back
@ridonas
Жыл бұрын
IVE MISSED UR VIDEOS SO MUCH YAYYAYA
@ridonas
Жыл бұрын
Honestly I used to never save at 5 ciphers either, but now reflecting on it I realize that I do end up saving that early about 80% of the time, just because atleast as a Toy Merchant main i know I can help the chances of them having a good rebound kite by a lot with my catapults and by giving them an extra item if needed. In lower tiers they never accept your support when playing as Anne, so before then it was a lot different. But nowadays I rarely have the issue of people not using my items I set for them. Anyway, loved the video!! Amazing editing and what a great discussion
@mellowmistel
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I used to not rescue at 5 ciphers but I ended up rescuing at 5 ciphers most of them time. xD And ah, Toy Merchant. I like to play her sometimes. It feels so nice when a teammate uses your catapult and items and they kite longer because of them!
@ridonas
Жыл бұрын
@@mellowmistel I agree!! Its the best feeling 🥰
@colacoca4433
3 ай бұрын
Seeing ur video maked me thinking about my rank match with a team with 3 players can vc. I was knocked out at so early game because of polun (just 50% decoded progress). As usual, i thought they would sold me for a tie, but alice players came and rescued before half, let me use tide tuner, then rescued me twice and body blocked. Fiona supported me too 😭😭😭. Thanks for their supporting and cipher rush, i kited until cipher pop, and until the exit gate was opened, we won bruhh. 120s containing the hunter 😭🙏🙏. After that rank match, sometimes we play together, and i always give the rd one more choices. Some of them cant do a rebound kite, but sometimes they can make a tie, or a win match!!!
@pikabee2692
Жыл бұрын
Im gonna be editing this comment as the video goes on but hers: 3:28 I literally got to Alicorn or Unicorn rank last week, and literally NOBODY WANTS TO CARRY TIDE… so I go out of my way as a Barmaid main to sometimes carry tide.. 5:48 A lot of times it happens, and I’ve also done it sometimes (not on purpose ofc) or sometimes the hunter knows the cipher is being decoded and brings them close enough to stop You from decoding, not the best feeling when this happens
@blade_keeper
Жыл бұрын
Even the pet in that luxurious maze gives me lags so baaaad. I adjusted my game settings, maybe my phone can no longer handle. But that aside thank you for the helpful tips! Keep it coming!✨
@noppapulaowattanathaworn9839
Жыл бұрын
I remember a ranked match with my friend. Me and my friend were both playing forward and we both were a tide turner build. We were playing with a prisoner and a little girl vs a sculpter, my friend got chaired super quick because the hunter found him first and baited every pallet and then downed him. I was on the other side of the map decoding around 70-80% and the little girl (whom i will call a leach) was syncing with me. I ran over to help my friend as fast as i can to help him and behold, the leach without tide turner rescued my friend. What? The leach didn't even body block and was only farming points. My friend was downed again and the leach saved him again. I knew my friend was gonna be dead because i did not have a straight path that can save my friend in time. So i kited the hunter my friend was dead and 4 ciphers remaining. I was going to run through the pallet but the leach knocked the pallet over and i could not run through. I ran to the side but I got hit by the sculpter and crushed by the statues. And then I died. The prisoner tried to come over but i was dead. The leach then got caught and was spamming, "Help me!" And that is the story on how the leach killed EVERYONE in the team. That is why, In my opinion, I hate online little girls.
@v4nishedx
10 ай бұрын
i think it def works at times. i remember a got downed at 5 ciphers as professor because i didn't know where the hunter was coming from and i accidentally got through their way. That was obviously like a free hit for the hunter and i wasn't able to kite more than 40 secs because i was in a open area. A mercenary immediately rescued me and i managed to rebound kite up to 2 ciphers. We eventually won with 3 survivors remaining.
@lebinok-
Жыл бұрын
OMG WELCOME BACK, I MISSED YOU A LOT 😹
@blade_keeper
Жыл бұрын
This content indeed will give us realization on why our matches are liikely to lose.
@renhengceo
Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of a recent match we played, I was prisoner then hunter was Naiad, a rando got down at 5 ciphers, since my friend was playing enchan on 36, I told them to rescue then harass hunter to help the early down and I could finish their cipher instead. They rescued the rando and body blocked, then me and seer finished a cipher. I went to enchan's cipher and connected to seer's new cipher. By the time the psychologist (that got early down) gets downed the second time we're already down to 2 ciphers, with seer's cipher halfway done. Seer went for rescue cuz they had 36 and I took over their cipher. I connected it to another cipher and started decoding. Seer rescued, body blocked, and enchan went to harass again. Seer and enchan supported psychologist until I primed last cipher, in the end we got a 4-man 🙏
@eclair3202
Жыл бұрын
Ngl rescue-ing teammate are the one who give me big opportunity to rank up, stepped out from low tier's hell. I'm that solo player that always bring tide, picking a support (postman) or kiter with good rescue ability (professor, gardener, perfumer). When rescue early in 5 cipher, I want to stall time as much as possible. Either hide and carefully sneaking to the chair or just deadass come early and try kite in front of chair if hunter already know where I came from, get hit, and do the rescue. I rescue before half, so my teammate can get another chair to waste hunter's time. This strategy can bring a better vibe to team, because another teammate usually want to rescue too and even tried to kite together, worth a lot of time until cipher ready. This can be applied to heavy camper, but rescue 90%. A lot of time I face bonbon and selling my teammate, no, it's a pure loss every single time. Better try to rescue or at least set a tinnitus to keep hunter camping.
@musart_time5967
Жыл бұрын
Haha! This lag is my daily basis with my match everyday! Welcome to the gang!! 😂
@quengquymaiman8005
Жыл бұрын
I play explorer and most of the time i rescue them quietly cuz the hunt always think nobody gonna rescue them lol
@octo.p14
Жыл бұрын
Usually i have a gew categories in these situations: !!(OVERRIDES ALL OTHER SITUATIONS!!) If the hunter leaves the chair and doesnt come back (confirmed by someone being chased or chaired teammate says hunter changed target) GO RESCUE!! If the ciphers are half or more done, rescue before half but pop your cipher first if possible If low cipher percentage, rescue before flying Of course there are specific scenarios where you have to do something different, but my general guidelines are the above If someone wants to give asvice please do!! I appreciate it :]
@oumousama8543
10 ай бұрын
This reminded me of when I was going to rescue a teammate and even said I was coming as merc with no damage and while I was running I saw someone else going to the chair. It was kinda annoying but then I was actually pissed cause the person went to the chair and didn’t save and by that time I was too far to get the person in the chair so ofc we lost.
@monzanassi7524
Жыл бұрын
That doctor is the worst 😭 y'all did a great team with communication if I was there I would let her down but it seems saving is a good idea
@a-tl8zw
Жыл бұрын
i bring tide turner even when I'm using a decoder character bc no one else brings it 😭
@nicolestacy8681
Жыл бұрын
7:51 THANK YOU. As a little girl main, (ex B badge)get so enraged when little girls sync early game, like no, the decoding buff isn’t enough, just don’t decode together 😢
@manneverhot2354
Жыл бұрын
I think it also depend on situation and character that ur teammate play or face with. If hunter is mad eye,breaking wheel or clerk, u should never sell ur teammate cuz u won’t be able to decode ur cipher. Or if ur teammate still have item left or skill that can be useful to kite after rescue such as seer(have owl) forward(have rugby) priestess(with broken map) it’s maybe worth to rescue. However if ur teammate 1 down early at basement with hunter that strongly camp, u should better sell them(except u r priestess maybe u can do sneak rescue) or 2 down early and no item left- after rescue they gonna die anyway (especially in high rank) ur rescue only give hunter presence and wasting ur tide tuner ,ur health and also ur time to decode the cipher 3 down early+ hunter best at camping such as sculpture guard26 even u r mercenary it still risk to failed rescue 4 down early+ hunter good at camping such as feaster violinist disciple luchino axe boy jack etc. if ur teammate have no ability or item to counter that hunter and also have no rescuer. U better sell cus it’s high risk to double down or failed rescue. To be concluded,My point is u should never blindly believe to rescue every teammate or selling ur teammate when they down early. Sometimes rescuing only make it worse since selling is a good strategy to get a tie and sometime selling make ur team lose if u aren’t camping titanus. China tournament is the best example for u to understand what I mean.
@Aldebaran-zg1qp
Жыл бұрын
As someone that's a main hunter and I play survivor, I think about all the possibilities that me and the people I get matched, have. For example, if someone's down at 5 ciphers and the decoding was a little bit down, I prefer to rescue when there has been some done. But sometimes, the randoms think is better to decode, and I don't go to the rescue because I main Luca 😅. Not gonna denie I sometimes carry tide with him because none bring...
@officialgirlsforbuddies
Жыл бұрын
Well I had a match with a doctor and a two little girl(I was playing as the mind eyes) when doctor got chair by bloody queen, I left my cipher and go to rescue doctor, after the doctor was eliminate, I was the next victim for bloody queen, when I got chaired the two little girl didn't rescue me, I was waiting until I got eliminate
@sealladybug
Жыл бұрын
pov: ur me, a coming back idv player.. i have no clue what doing and i just pray for the best (gardener main)
@bruh-js7tz
Жыл бұрын
not bodyblocking, especially when they don’t have tide, is literally the most annoying thing ever.
@mtheroes3296
Жыл бұрын
This may seem weird but this is actually why i started maining harassment characters of course i still play my go to minds eye and mechanic although whenever we have no people to harass the hunter i will usually end up switching for things like this that happen as most of the time im the only one who wants to save at 5 ciphers meaning im most likely gonna be the only one to help the survivor kite and harass the hunter.
@mash2679
Жыл бұрын
idk if you mentioned this but if you do decide to sell it does negatively affect your team alot (the hunter can see if the 3 ciphers are shaking and just go pressure ciphers)
@jisatsusaru2483
Жыл бұрын
Is the doctors (the one at 14:00 )user name “angeleyes” or “beautifuldisaster” bc I think that was my mom lol
@noir2094
3 ай бұрын
I'm playing solo and using emma before..my teamate tell me to change to other character but i didn't..usually i can do basic kite at least for 60 sec..but that time i got down early and even got chair basement..i already tell my teamate don't rescue me if i down early but that one player using fiona the one who tell me to don't use emma..she rescuing me 😭😭 she doesn't even have tt..for thank her i tell myself i shouldn't get down anymore (it was my last chair)..we got win though hehe and i survived until the end of match
@Justme-dq9vm
Жыл бұрын
I keep in myself that saving someone at 5 chiper is important cuz I got this 1 match being chaired first as mind eye, and this embalmer not helping at all, he just emote and then go, (prob teaming) he could at least got hit a snd then rescue me
@ieatbread6088
Жыл бұрын
I have a question for everyone. Does anyone else experience really bad fps? And then it goes to high ping? This problem happened to me all of a sudden. My internet is pretty good and it isn’t a connection problem, but ever since this happened I can’t even play. The lag is terrible and I used to only have green ping but now it’s trash. Does anyone know how to help?
@sabrinaxblaze8678
Жыл бұрын
I lowered my graphic settings and play with an a tier or b tier depending on that and the map my ping will be good and sometimes it won’t it’s a little trial and error depending on the characters and how recently the skin is
@haruki4860
Жыл бұрын
The people always harass me as hunter 4 of them. But they forgot to chipper. And I was confused why they did that. And yes I won with 12k deduction
@confu.
Жыл бұрын
I was playing frederick and I got downed in like 5 seconds And then once I was rescued I kited for 276 and made it to gate Somehow
@Sn0w2star
Жыл бұрын
omgg hey, i have problems with FPS too, how u fix it?
@shinigamik3027
8 ай бұрын
My DC friends had an argument with me over this because I prefer rescuing at 5 ciphers like this… it is very dependent on a lot of things but still 😭😭 I’m glad to see that I’m stupid or anything 😭😭 *and if I do rescue in this situation, I pallet support and bodyblock so pls don’t bash me*
@icamllq
Жыл бұрын
i got downed at 5 ciphers n then someone rescue, i made blink predict n kite a lot, the hunter surrender
@nameless1767
Жыл бұрын
ngl i hate it when people say 'dont rescue me!' after being downed at 5 ciphers, idc what u did to get downed so fast but I'm saving u for ur rebound kite no matter what 👹
@Diushiidee
Жыл бұрын
hey can i ask what phone you're using?
@namelesschannel4103
Жыл бұрын
The doctor must've felt really good at the game, I know because Im that player
@Leo_OoOo
Жыл бұрын
Ok now you shouldn’t rescue with your broken window build because that is just faster wins (from experience)
@Lilithia01
Жыл бұрын
Can you PLEASE tell me how you got rid of the lag?
@Majika220
Жыл бұрын
HOW DID YOU GET RID OF LAG
@sosouei
Жыл бұрын
Lol the Aussie accent
@CheerLadder
Жыл бұрын
0:37 how?
@cudoxiao
10 ай бұрын
I HATE THIS THING ABOUT OH YOU'RE NOT GOOD AT KITE SO I'M NOT GOING TO SAVE YOU OH MY GOD I HATE THIS
@phython124
Жыл бұрын
Lmao the hunters were super bad. Also not sure if u mentioned it but if it's a hunter that gets significantly stronger with full presence then that's another factor to consider
@phython124
Жыл бұрын
Also if they didn't get the blink out and decent hunter thats instantly gonna nullify any rebound chance. However you showed a geisha with... Peepers lmao
@Cap_Idv
Жыл бұрын
The real problem is survivors don't want to play team helpers in rank. I'm so sick of everyone only playing their one "main". PLAY SURVIVORS TO HELP THE TEAM OUT PLEASE. there should never be 2 decoders or two rescue(depending who they are). I also really dislike these mains in particular: Gardner, lawyer, Tme, explorer, and coord. They're just so basic and bring almost nothing helpful to team comp
@SethUnwell
Жыл бұрын
That's how survs with no skills end up ranking up and f up our ranks, begging hunters to get nerfed or throwing the match when they match with good survs.
@murasakirenea9290
Жыл бұрын
Because the game is surv sided and literally no matter what you do or how bad you play CR will always save your ass. you don't have to be good at surv to win, at all. Literally go pallet spam and you've got a win
@___i_love_your_mom
Жыл бұрын
This remember me mutch when i cant dodge blink and die at 5 cipher Mercenary just decode when i spam "help me" Thanks to doc and painter they rescue after half but do bodyblock For moment 3 cipher done After that i do pretty well kite but die Draw but it seems to me that it could have been a win Mercenary 300% decode
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