Yeah indeed... printing on FDM for many years had me wondering ir I should give resin a go... looks like I can wait on it a bit more.
@Janovich
3 жыл бұрын
4:20 "you can cause damage to your skin" It is much more nefarious than that. That stuff can damage your nervous system and can lead to serious disorders.
@noway8233
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but thats if yuo drink the resin...i think if yuo are a normal guy, there is no problem , as an example yuo have a kitchen that can burn yuo, but yuo use evreyday
@Janovich
2 жыл бұрын
@@noway8233 No bro, it is all about prolonged exposure. If you use that shit daily you should handle it with a mask and filter. Not just if you drink it.
@3-DMonkey
8 ай бұрын
@@Janovichthe delicious fumes messes yur head
@justintime5021
Жыл бұрын
I enjoy painting busts and miniatures so resin was an easy choice. I have seen some pretty incredible quality from FDM printers but they are at best slightly worse than the worst resin printer and the amount of black magic you have to do to get those kinds of results is intense. With a resin printer you pretty much level your build plate one time and then you don't have to do it again unless you replace your fep or drop the plate on the ground. The mess is real with resin though. You need to have your work space dialed in quite well and there are a lot of random things that you didn't think you needed that you end up having to buy. My mars 2 pro was about $250 but I ended up spending close to $650 with all of the other random shit I had to buy.... funnels, trays, washing station, IPA, microfiber cloths, squeegees, strainers for the resin, gloves, photochemical bottles to store mixes of resin, spray bottles... etc. Its a lot of stuff! And some of these things are recurring costs as mentioned in the video. Gloves, Resin and IPA specifically are the three big ones. Resin has some pretty unfortunate mechanical properties too. Its much more brittle than PLA although I found some sunlu nilon-like resin that is incredible... but still nowhere near the flexibility and durability of PLA... making mechanical parts out of resin is much more difficult simply because of those material properties. So I would say if you're interested in making mechanisms or parts that are going to have to take a lot of punishment and you don't need crazy detail then you should go with a filament printer. If you are making art pieces then resin is a no brainer. Edit: one thing I didn't mention is the size constraints. Even the smallest fdm printers have larger build volume than the majority of resin printers. This has actually been a big deal for me over the years. I upgraded my mars 2 pro to a Saturn S just to get that bigger build space. Fdm has resin beat in this regard by a long shot. There were many times when looking at cool stuff to print with my mars 2 pro that I ran into the issue of not enough build space. This is also something you should consider when you're weighing your options. It seems like in this entire post I've seemed to be shitting on resin printers quite a bit. That's probably true... Let's talk about the pros of resin printers. The first I've already talked about which is the print quality. It's way better by a long way.... Second is print time. Even the largest items (or multiple items) are going to top out around 9-12 hours depending on your settings with a resin printer. A build plate full of 12 miniatures on my Saturn S is going to take around 3 hours. Third is failures. Both Fdm and resin printers fail frequently. Anyone who's used an Fdm printer has come home to a spaghetti mess of filament. Resin failures are much less catastrophic. Because of the way resin printers work you're not going to be wasting a bunch of material when a print fails. Of course the already printed material will be a right off but you won't be burning half a spool on a failure. It's actually way more forgiving with resin. Fourth is setup. Once you have your machine calibrated for your resin of choice there's very little tweaking necessary from one print to another.
@brennenfarrell5406
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this comment
@culan_SCP
Жыл бұрын
Bro rote a hole essayy
@AvianDnD
Жыл бұрын
@@culan_SCP wrote*
@AvianDnD
Жыл бұрын
@@culan_SCP Whole*
@pilotreg
Жыл бұрын
but with resin isnt it easy to print in small parts then connect?
@theswedishcommentor
Жыл бұрын
I think people should know that resin printers are REALLY toxic too, it doesn't just smell bad
@shelbygates822
3 жыл бұрын
This video really makes me want to get one now!!! I love your videos, I wish the algorithm wasn’t the way it is.
@nachgebaut4176
2 жыл бұрын
Please get proper protection against the resin. It CAN CAUSE CANCER.
@ImCaveJohnson
2 жыл бұрын
I just returned my resin printer. Damaging your health and environment isnt worth having more plastic crap
@BabyJesus66
Жыл бұрын
Resin printing is not nearly as bad as he makes it out to be. Plus you can get a wash and cure station that makes cleaning way easy. I literally put a part directly from the build plate into the wash and cure, and wash it for 1.5mins, then take it out dry it, cure it for 3 minutes and it's done. It takes maybe 6 minutes to do the entire process from when I open the 3d printer lid to having my part done. You don't need to sand parts unless you put tons of supports or need something perfect. 99% of the time I don't sand anything and it's fine. Any spot that doesn't have supports generally looks perfect straight out of the printer. As long as you put the supports on the back of your prints you'll never need to sand. It's not that messy either, wear gloves and put a mat down on your work area that you can wipe off resin if it drips and you're fine. This video will turn people off from resin printing when it's not hard to do at all once you get a rhythm.
@carlfogarthy6508
Жыл бұрын
I came to some conclusions after some days in searching the web and YT (included this good video). This is just what I think. Hope this can help. FDM have 2 major safety concerns: 1) hot temperature of the nozzle (which is very easy to manage) 2) VOC (which you can get rid off if you use an enclosure + expulsion vacuum fan). With PLA all risks are tremendously lowered, with ABS you have to work only in a very well ventilated space with a good enclosure and hepa + carbon filters. Resin printers (SLA/DLP/etc) use chemicals. UV resin are made of nano particles, part of them are volatiles (HEPA + cabon filters cannot block them), part VOC (i.e. micro particles which probably can be blocked by HEPA and carbon filters). Uncured resin is toxic for environment and for humans (especially lung, eyes, skin) Exhausted IPA (which is itself an aggressive chemical) has to be handled with extreme care and attention for the environment (which I really think few people do). Some say that cured resin is safe, I'm not 100% sure of it. In fact if you look at operational instructions by producers of printers and some smart tutorial you will find that it's suggested to not cure for too long printed objects in a way they cannot became too brittle.... Some others say that after a certain time resin 3d printed object meld... Which could mean that if you don't cure completely the objects, then inside a portion of resin is still liquid (and extremely toxic). When you touch the object for finishing it could be hazardous, still some nano particles can flow through the air. For what I found there's not many scientific studies about safety with 3d printers but the most important researches are and will be on resin. One university (maybe in California, I don't remember) got 100% toxicity of uncured resin for water creatures (100% of fish embryos died). But the worst aspect is 87% of toxicity for cured resin objects! (they put some cured objects in a vat with water and fish embryos and the most of them died in a couple of days....) That said, I'm really really sorry for this situation. Resin printers are wayyyyyy better than FDM in terms of render, accuracy, smoothness... I had for few days a small DLP resin printer and also this technology bring me to results impossible to get with FDM. I gave back the printer an all the stuff because a couple o years ago I had a blood cancer and my doctor recommends to avoid chemicals. I still use a budget FDM printer just for hobby, only with PLA + enclosure + vacuum + filters. In a beautiful world resin and FDM should work together. FDM is very good for big objects, for simple objects, for some mechanical objects and for making mold for composites. FDM are relatively slow and very cheap to use. Resin renders fantastically, every print is relatively much expensive than FDM. It's generally way faster than FDM (especially DLP). Sorry for the big size of this message, I spent a lot of time for getting some realiable info (reliable = scientifically trustable and not sponsored...) Hope it helps, hope technology will offer us very soon a true eco-resin
@NerdSnipingBatman
3 ай бұрын
@@carlfogarthy6508as far as safety of cured parts: I don't think as long as you're using a reputable brand that it is much of a concern. Yeah don't make drinking cups out of it, but it's relatively inert once the photoinitiators have done their job. You have to remember: many personalized medical plastics are made with resin 3d printing. Dental resin for things like Invisalign, retainers, dentures, etc. and those go in your mouth. Medical plastics are of course regulated by the FDA so I would assume a decent amount of safety. Obviously hobby resins aren't the same thing, but the photoinitiators are very similar. Yes the uncured resin is likely very toxic. But I wouldn't panic much about cured parts.
@SaHaRaSquad
Жыл бұрын
FDM printers can be pretty precise, especially with very thin layers. The problem is the print time, which explodes as shown in the video. I still think I'll go for a Prusa i3 next (and maybe a budget SLA later for some miniatures) - those things are pretty straightforward and not as messy, and I still have more than enough filament lying around.
@jgoodpaster9725
Жыл бұрын
If you’re worried about print time get a creality K1 max or a Bambu labs P1P
@lindsaynie8309
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! You answered all the questions I had about UV resin printing. I want one, but I don't have the time... so for now my fillament will have to continue to do the job.
@Shamanteng
2 жыл бұрын
Cheers for the insights! I was pondering if I could enter this hobby but it seems too complicated (as in the process + timing) for me right now. I didn't know resin required all these extra steps!
@techforever1970
2 жыл бұрын
I know, right! I was about to purchase a Creality resin printer but THANK GOD I watched this video. I also didn’t know that resin required all these steps. Waaaaaay too complicated of a hobby for my liking.
@Shamanteng
2 жыл бұрын
@@techforever1970 Yup and the fact that it's also messy I live in a appartement so I don't have any place where I can do this hobby (like a garage). Before this video, I would have thought that I just needed to "cut & trim" the object after it's done being printed.
@ohjoshdarnit
2 жыл бұрын
This is where I'm at too. Resin looks great but I can't handle that much time. Very useful video.
@BabyJesus66
Жыл бұрын
It's not nearly as bad as he makes it out to be. Plus you can get a wash and cure station that makes cleaning way easy. I literally put a part directly from the build plate into the wash and cure, and wash it for 1.5mins, then take it out dry it, cure it for 3 minutes and it's done. It takes maybe 6 minutes to do the entire process from when I open the 3d printer lid to having my part done. You don't need to sand parts unless you put tons of supports or need something perfect. 99% of the time I don't sand anything and it's fine.
@loopyslop
2 жыл бұрын
I highly recommend the semiclear Eco Resin, it doesnt really smell much at all and with the Green Translucent resin Ive had a lot of really great success... the clear Resin, not so much, but oh well...
@1hellokittymeow
2 жыл бұрын
Hi can you tell me more about this Eco resin?
@711pizzaslice
2 жыл бұрын
With the eco resin can you still prime and paint it or does the transparency resist opaque paint?
@loopyslop
2 жыл бұрын
@@711pizzaslice absolutely, I just use a matte grey primer and it's great
@davidgreenwood6270
2 жыл бұрын
Basically if you make high detail miniatures or do castings, go resin. For anything else fdm is the way
@rvncto
2 жыл бұрын
nice video. bed leveling is one of the most annoying things i had to do. but my 3d printer(maker select v2 ) is old so maybe 2022 has newer better filament printing. Was nice to know that resin has way more post processing, cause if there is one thing i hate more than bed leveling... its post processing. So i guess ill stick with a filament for my next printer! thanks!
@deathymckill9707
Жыл бұрын
Honestly he made it seem more hassle than it is. Water wash resin has changed the game. Dunk it in a bucket and set it by the sun, and done. The speed and quality are unrivaled.
@Professor-Scientist
Жыл бұрын
@@deathymckill9707 cool i guess thats better than sanding filament lines which is not too easy with PLA. can you comment on the smell ?
@kylecrowder4571
2 жыл бұрын
Dude I love that "ART IS NOT A CRIME" poster back there. Really hits home with me because my passion is making sports art (can't sell it sadly) so pretty much for free fun at this point.
@kylecrowder4571
2 жыл бұрын
Great video btw
@none709
5 ай бұрын
5:15 flashes the black light 😂
@April480p
2 жыл бұрын
One very important thing: Filament printing makes you feel like a computer nerd that just got another expensive gimmicky gadget to play around with. Resin printing? You pour toxic liquid into a borderline sci-fi Replicator, wearing thick chemistry gloves, a respirator mask and a goddamn lab coat. Shit makes you feel like an actual badass.
@raginggamer2109
2 жыл бұрын
I just bought a UV resin printer before i saw this video, but i really do not mind all the work involved. It makes you closer to the item you are creating since you have several steps after its made.
@Akshay-cj3hq
2 жыл бұрын
Cope
@raginggamer2109
2 жыл бұрын
@@Akshay-cj3hq 👀
@TheFilipFonky
Жыл бұрын
@@Akshay-cj3hq based
@lynneversley332
3 жыл бұрын
Now I'm sure I am going to get a filament printer I only want to print a few things as a hobby and I can't afford the resin and all the needed items to go with it. Thank you for this video. 😀
@nigel5823
Жыл бұрын
waterwashable resin doe's not smell and it good non toxic handle with your hand no gloves
@Gold63Beast
2 жыл бұрын
Right to the point! Glad to see good quality content is still on KZitem. And not some robot lady reading a comparison list.
@salemcripple
2 жыл бұрын
I have both. Love resin printing for it's detail. Hate it for it's cost per size (to even approach the size of an fdm printer, you're spending 10x as much money). And (i know this is a personal problem), i live in an RV. No way in hell i could use a resin printer in here! So it stays in the garage at the other end of the property (2 acres away). Where as my fdm can sit quite happily right on my desk in the rv. PLA, and PETG are both non-toxic to print indoors. Plus the FDM printer is just fun to watch! I like being able to modify my machines to make them more unique, or better functioning. This is something you can't really do to a resin printer. But again, like i said, i love the AMAZING detail of the resin printer.
@joycecollar
Жыл бұрын
Your comment about where you can use you fdm answered my query. I have a limited space in my bedroom for crafting and was worried about the odor. Thank you
@edstar83
Жыл бұрын
Neither is better they both compliment each other.
@dexagalapagos
2 жыл бұрын
Aside from part quality, the other thing resin has going for it is strength uniformity in every direction. Filament print layers separate way too easily under load when used mechanically.
@Sky-dy4vn
2 жыл бұрын
I'm honestly only intrested in resin because the filament deck boxes i had printed by a friend started to sheer at the layer lines in the first handful of months. Thry don't go through a lot of mechanical stress, but apparently enough on the print lines to breat full layers off
@TobySilalahi
2 жыл бұрын
So this is luffy's new power
@navidmehdi6
2 жыл бұрын
You didnt metion the strength aspect of it. Filament is generally stronger right? Which could be using for making more mechanical things rather than miniatures
@airsoft3563
Жыл бұрын
0:35 what are these FDM settings XD bro
@TheXzaclee16
2 жыл бұрын
thank you for this vid was very informative. i have an ender 3 but creality has a resin printer on sale right now for 188 so im very tempted....
@TheTundraTerror
2 жыл бұрын
Getting into 3D printing with resin is like getting into welding with MIG. Yes, it's easier. But what are you really learning? The same thing applies to FDM where it's a bit like learning stick welding. Yes, it's harder. But it's also a lot cheaper and gives you a wider range of uses. >10 days for an FDM print What in god's name are your settings that it takes 10 days!? Seriously, is it 100% infill?!
@LordTaboo11
2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the vid I was trying to decide on which of the two to go with and while resin was my original choice all the extra steps and cost isn't something I'm to interested in aswell as possible smell my family would hate it and be telling me something I can already tell so looks like I'm going with Filament
@FernandoMedeiros
2 жыл бұрын
"Hey, resin printers are not that expensive! I think I'll buy one" _sees this video_ "No, I won't. No f*king way!"
@Lan_ny
3 жыл бұрын
5:35 abs off gasses styrene that have to be ventilated outdoors. Both printers can be placed in an enclosure and vented outdoors to mitigate smells and fumes
@ajdexter4195
3 жыл бұрын
Can we just appreciate how well Dan presents and talks to us, so professional and I feel like a friend is talking to me. Wow Dan I want to have presentation skills like this.
@elementscity4204
3 жыл бұрын
I know I'm late, but there was a bunch of wrong data in the video, so I wouldn't call it professionals. He said, that its hard to discern which one is safer. NO ITS NOT. Filament is a 100% more safe. first of all, if you are touching the nozzle of a fillament printer, you SHOULD NOT BE 3D printing at all because its like puting your hands inside an working oven. If you ever touch the resin without gloves, you must immediately wash it off, without washing it into the sink. Resin also have vapors, which are 10 times more dangerous than fillement vapors. So yeah, he totally underestimated the safety side
@ajdexter4195
3 жыл бұрын
@@elementscity4204 Dan is still a legend, he knows what he’s on about
@fireflare260
3 жыл бұрын
I just saw this and the guy was talking so fast I thought he had done rails before he filmed.
@ajdexter4195
3 жыл бұрын
@@fireflare260 what
@kingsleykronkk3925
Жыл бұрын
Thanks now I know which to get... neither of them. With occasional fine detail items needed I will pay someone who enjoys all the smelly sticky expensive UV hassles.
@BazamO
3 жыл бұрын
I wanna know why you bought a CR 10 V2 for $700, I got one for £200 brand new
@FIDreams
Жыл бұрын
To answer the question the title of the video says with out watching it: For more stable and Larger projects that's safer to handle: fdm For small Detailed and accurate: sla There, I saved people time. XD
@shiloheaston9839
2 жыл бұрын
Thank-You so much! Couldn't understand the difference but you made it all very clear! Great video!
@Utb1875
2 жыл бұрын
2:52 my printer told me how hot it needed to be
@daithibroderick658
2 жыл бұрын
(100th comment!!)Great vid thanks I was wondering which to get but I think I'll get filament as I cant afford the ongoing costs of resin.
@jaquamy5931
3 жыл бұрын
There are water soluble Uv resign and the uv resign can be equal in price but both cost about the same overall if your smart with it and it’s just all up to preference
@excellenceinanimation960
3 жыл бұрын
thankyou for this awesome informative and quick video!
@whatisdog2955
3 жыл бұрын
Wassup Dan!! Love your content!
@ShileGaming
Жыл бұрын
Such a great video, simple, all the important points covered. Thank you! Cheers
@KimberPrime
2 жыл бұрын
I currently have a filament printer that I love using, but am looking into a resin printer for the smaller detailed pieces. This video showed me a lot of stuff I didn't know about resin printers yet so thank you! =D
@loganwilliams9948
Жыл бұрын
Just get a 3d printer with .06mm detail you won’t notice the difference
@RODE85
Жыл бұрын
K so they both sound like a pain in my butt. I've been wanting one for years and I've been holding off.
@jst1man
5 ай бұрын
I think there are a few misunderstandings here, the biggest which he didn't clarify is, what each printer does. Both have their positives and negatives. FDM is designed with more structure in mind, but I'm not saying it can't do fine detail. It can with the right adjustments. But far better for structures and strength. On the other hand SLA or resin printers can do high detail but tend to be more fragile. But! It can do structures, but again it's a pain. FDM can do miniatures of people with mods, like showing down print speed, changing the head to. 2 etc.... but it's not practical. SLA is the boss with miniatures, but cleaning can be a pain. So what is similar between the 2? Both need to have pre & post work done. Print similar, but that's where it ends. Everything else is liquid vs solid. After you do SLA a few times you're good at it. Just like FDM. So don't sweat what he's saying. You want to do SLA? Go do it. It's not that expensive 500 will set you up. For a good FDM it's going to be 500. Or if you're not sure get a refurbished or used. It's as easy as that. Have fun!
@philip6419
2 жыл бұрын
LOL. Dude.. never seen such a hostile 'review' of a product. It seems.. in your eyes.. Everything Resin SUCKS, yet.. that's what you use? ~Very weird Review! Just sayin..
@shley0716
3 жыл бұрын
I follow both. But I like the longer more personal KZitem. We need more dan.
@dewey40000
Жыл бұрын
WoW 6000 dollars ?? No i cant agree with this , i got started with resin printer with 300 euros , had one day of failures and then its been non stop successes , yes i will have to buy fep sheets After a while and the resin is a bit pricey (not that mch a kilo of resin is 40 euros and it Can last a while) Yes it is messy and is toxic BUT i wouldnt exchange my resin printer even for a twice more expensive filament printer xS Yes its very mch more complicated but if you put your will into it and take it as a hobby its the best investment of my life LEGIT (yes even more than my vehicule id Say)
@smileandlaughs
2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I just got into 3d printing and this is super helpful
@PearlsAnneHeels
2 жыл бұрын
Bro! TYSM for this! You made my decision really easy 😅
@kiidmarzgamez1602
3 ай бұрын
First printer I’ve ever used is the Saturn s and the quality is fucking dopeeee I made some doom keychains and a doom guy , my next print is gonna be a multi part figure of eve1 , it should be about a foot and a half big let’s see how it goes
@TheNaruto2314
Жыл бұрын
Resin minimum 3.5x or more the cost lot more work messier not good for skin or air quality 8.5x faster higher quality print but needs uv curing.
@B4MBI72
2 жыл бұрын
I don't smell my resin printer at all, with the cheapest resin I can buy. Messy? Nah only if you are incompetent and have trouble making a sandwich without buttering your kitchen. Printing big go for filament, printing accurately with any detail go for resin. I have yet to see a filament print that comes close to the cheapest resin printer for small scale accuracy.
@quasar_icemage9707
2 жыл бұрын
Or- you could just buy nice metal minis that don't look like they came as 'prizes' in a box of cheap cereal..........
@bikepacker9850
6 ай бұрын
Nice hat . Great video.... All fact, it made me realise very quickly Resin not for me. Thank you.
@weaselton
2 жыл бұрын
One idea to keep resin a bit cleaner, I stuck a dog training pad under the printer area.
@WealthOverFameAndAttention
Жыл бұрын
what 3d printers would be good to get if i wanted to provide a service to construction companies and a service to the government fulfilling contract services and what sort of items could i provide with what 3d printer i have a chance to create and start a company with the support of the government
@Peanut-Butter
Жыл бұрын
Resin is more like professional and is usually used if your making like a action figure and selling it. It’s not for your everyday, hey I found this on the internet I’m gonna make that type thing.
@jedigreg4636
Жыл бұрын
I really like the resin printer and want one badly but I don't have a great well ventilated garage or area that's in a dark place :( Also I'm not a fan of the cleanup process from what I've seen.
@Vegas_Gnostics
11 ай бұрын
Resin printers are only like $150.00 now. You talked me out of it though. Thanks bro. 😂
@carloscorona6214
2 жыл бұрын
Elego Saturn 2 8k with carbon filter : Wtf with this guy , i sell myself for 600 bucks in the worst of cases
@waterskin7
2 жыл бұрын
he really got something against the filament printer doesnt he? the hot end isnt really a safety hazard unless you try to touch it , besides i dont even think your filament can last for 10 days , lol probably done in 3 days to go through 1 kg of filament
@ItsWesSmithYo
Жыл бұрын
Who else coming w/me to Bass Pro Shops to buy a boat instead ? 😂
@uasakura
2 жыл бұрын
I got a filament printer, n the bed leveling, n everything s way too hard, i sold it, n got anycubic 4k, hope ts easier
@Lannd84
2 жыл бұрын
If your a rich boi, live off deposit interest from than billion dollar in the bank, don't have to go to work and have all the time in the world. go for resin.
@pattemplayz
Жыл бұрын
It look good but I think having it print slower might make the face look better
@24revealer
Жыл бұрын
Something you did not mention was the strength of the finished piece.
@iwonkarts
2 жыл бұрын
Nice... i like... Hello everyone... i am 3d sculpture indonesia...
@christianperez7162
6 ай бұрын
Bro I came here trying convince my self to spend a couple thousand of a cheaper resin printer but here u made me not want it
@msjithy
2 жыл бұрын
Sorry for judging that i thought , this is another clickbait but i was wrong. You did a great job! 👍
@withinloki
2 жыл бұрын
That was everything I wanted to know PLUS the stuff I needed to know, without being previously aware I needed to know it. Thanks so much!
@beckscald3855
3 жыл бұрын
Super interesting video. I won't be purchasing a printer but honestly super interesting to hear the similarities and differences. I learnt something and that's the main goal.
@steve26472
2 жыл бұрын
how much should i spend on a resin printer, any particular model better than others.....cheers.
@thaboseane502
2 жыл бұрын
You wern't fair to the filament print time cos you orientated the print on its tallest side🤦🏾♂️
@superdogo3000-wc1in
5 ай бұрын
personal bed leveling is mostly for printers that are for the price under like a prusa mini
@thedeadman4481
3 жыл бұрын
I want to make action figure parts and accessories and I am a beginner, what would be the best option for that? Resin or filament?
@noway8233
3 жыл бұрын
Like this guy said, for miniatures, or for very good tinny details, Resin Printers win!
@silverbullet6833
9 ай бұрын
I disagree with some of this video, it feels like there is a slight bias towards a resin preference. NOW, i realize this video is a bit old but by the fact it is still up, has only just shown up to me ETC, the information has to be regarded as relevant from a new prospective user point of view set up on an FDM is level and hotend temp fine but Resin you don't just pore and go, you still have bed level, perform calibration prints to find exposure time and room temp has a huge effect on resin print exposure time. Conveniently you skirted around the print set up time regarding support on resin prints, every print has to be supported and failure clean up takes much longer. a flat part needs support in resin but just throw it on the build plate and print in FDM no supports. The ongoing cost of resin isn't just alcohol, there are gloves, resin filters, respirator cartridge replacement, FEP sheets and toxic waste disposal which involves usually driving to an approved site (fuel) as uncured resin is both inhale and touch toxic, used alcohol is toxic waste and is illegal to tip away anywhere that is certified for toxic chemical waste, supports can't just go in the bin for land fill waste unless washed and cured. Also all FDM slicer software is FREE, Resin printing software has free options but to get the more usable features you have to pay a yearly fee and that's another expense minimum of 70$ a year for lychee pro, while Chitubox pro is currently 101$ per year. The resin prints are far more brittle in comparison to FDM Prints. Once you build an FDM profile it's pretty much transferable from machine to machine and in my experience is basically unaffected by room temp ( i have printed with room temps from 17C to 26C with little to no problem) The nozzle size is changeable in FDM from 0.1 0r 0.2mm up to 1mm hole size, typically an FDM printer is supplied at 0.4mm and can print at 0.08mm to somewhere around 0.32mm layer heights or 80 microns to 320 microns a typical resin print is 50 microns and with adaptive layer height you can save the fine detail printing to the areas that require it.
@miguellopez3392
6 ай бұрын
I feel like you are bias toward FDM print. Calibrating the printer isn't hard or takes long especially when the bigger manufacturers have exposure time data sheets for their resins and printers, leveling only really needs to be done once, the biggest hurdle is getting stable tempatures in the printer, automatic supports exist and FDM also uses supports but is much worse at generating them which is why their softwares are free. They don't offer much in terms of improving the process, but free slicers on resin are still very capable and paid versionnis not needed. Also takes less than a minute to clean failed print. Just stick a peice of the failed print in the vat. Flash the screen for 20 seconds and pull it out. You can recycle alcohol and use a window ventilator instead of a respirator, things like supports get cured and washed with the prints as its just more convenient that way. Resin printings real problem is viewing the price as just a hobbyists, resin printers are designed more so to make sallable products like miniatures or high quality prototypes that you plan on making money on. FDM is more hobbyists and DIY orientated so it's supposed to be low cost and convenient for it to justify itself on your table space vs getying the things at a store, I go with resin simply for the higher quality finish, I like that I can print out something and almost not have to sand it for painting since sanding plastic can be as toxic and messy as resin printing. Most resins are brittle. But there are much more options now for flexible and even rubber like resins, and some resins even have harden surfaces for use in mechanical joints, I print between 20C and 30C for the lowest failure rate at 30 Micron layer hight on a 28 micron resolution resin printer, the detail is so sharp I occasionally stab myself with thin parts of the prints. Biggest headach is replacing the ACF-FEP sheets due to the process involved but that's if you do a lot of printing.
@OnelastgoTV
Жыл бұрын
Damn, I was sold on a resin printer until this, great video
@jnkmal9519
Жыл бұрын
That thumbnail is so bias that it's almost a dick move. Filament never looks like that unless something incredibly bad happened.
@jayrock4ya
3 жыл бұрын
At about 2:15 I made my choice great job🍻🤣👍
@JonasGrumby
Жыл бұрын
Because of this post, I will continue to never buy a 3D printer.
@nerdfatha
Жыл бұрын
Just got started with FDM printing. I'm still currently amazed at the quality and details of the minis I have printed and I'm not even doing it on crazy tight settings yet. I also like that I can print stuff that has practical applications. I haven't seen too many shelf supports made out of resin yet.
@Brochacho13
Жыл бұрын
I am actually looking foward to buying a resin printer only because of the printing time and also because of the market being mainly filament based
@Bossmodegoat
Жыл бұрын
I have both. You think your minis look amazing in fdm then you print them in resin and you realize it’s not even a contest. Kinda how you think your tv looks great then you see your tv next to an oled model at the store.
@nerdfatha
Жыл бұрын
@@Bossmodegoat 3 months later I very much get that, lol. Getting into resin isn't an option at this point for me, but as long as I pick models that work with my Ender's strengths its pretty good. If I try something too detailed its doesn't go well. I look at it and think "Is that a cyborg or a guy who is half booger? "
@dankujcreations
Жыл бұрын
@@nerdfatha thanks for sharing. I'm looking at both for the holidays and I just want to print some basic miniatures and scatter terrain/details, so I'm leaning a little more towards FDM. Resin sounds awesome, but for the cleanup and material cost it might not make sense for me lol. I still play most of my games on 1080p so I think I can live with less detail.
@jeremoople
Жыл бұрын
Wow, I had this completely backwards. I'm unsure if I really want to get into 3D printing even though I would have some practical uses for it because it seems intimidating, but when I saw a picture of the Elegoo Mars, I thought it would be an easy entry point. I think the difference in how FDM printers and resin printers look is misleading. FDM printers look like complicated industrial machinery while resin printers almost look like toys. The way resin printers are enclosed also had me thinking they were LESS messy. The nail in the coffin is that I'm very sensitive to some smells so thanks for saving me from making a horrible mistake.
@MrDream-ep4il
2 жыл бұрын
Filament is just level the bed from time to time and hit print. I have a Creality cr10 pro v2 and it's a good machine for the money
@ace142
2 жыл бұрын
Bruh if you smell bad chemical odors its because your house air is full of voc gasses.
@that_panda
3 жыл бұрын
Yoooo finally another upload😊
@charliec8308
3 жыл бұрын
Bro I wait every day and check back while I’m watching ur house vids over and over or watching old vids I look to see if you have uploaded I makes my day
@CameronLisney
Жыл бұрын
About to get a printer for my son's birthday. This video has been so so helpful in making my decision! Thank you so much!
@mattycars953
2 жыл бұрын
Thought you were a joke, but you actually did a great job on the video. I believe the Bass Pro shop just made me think “who is this joker”
@uborka1987
2 жыл бұрын
That's my bulldog ;) saddexdesign on cults :))
@tylerjustuspaige
2 жыл бұрын
What is a good hiquality resin that won’t make my house smell?
@Michael-kq3qm
11 ай бұрын
The problem with resin printing is all the cancerous vapours, isopropyl alcohol etc, I would not consider resin unless you had some industrial extractor fans in place.
@miguellopez3392
9 ай бұрын
Fans on my portable paint station do well enough to vent especially if you do the alcohol cleaning inside of it.
@animatedxool2319
2 жыл бұрын
planning to get one for my birthfya, didnt know what to take tho, i thought resin is like better since it has glass protectorr, guess i will take a fillament printer, cause resin more dangerouse
@mitchshroyer5711
3 жыл бұрын
Tiny astronaut, if you know you know
@PureCitizen
2 жыл бұрын
really really good points on both side! Thank you! I already own an filament printer but always want to know about how resin one is
@rebeccachambers4701
6 ай бұрын
i think resin and filament have two different purposes.
@runaroundsueaccessibletrav6357
Жыл бұрын
Brilliant stopped me wasting money.
@nathanteig7108
Жыл бұрын
Wow. In the past two years resin has gotten much better. Resin is 40$/Kg for a really nice resin.
@GoldenTV3
2 жыл бұрын
Also FDM is better strength wise
@abramswee
Жыл бұрын
good video. ok, i will settle for filament printing then
@Whos_real
2 ай бұрын
There both two separate tools for two different jobs.
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