Hey Guys! Clarification on the Vice City part of the video: Vice City on the PS2 originally released with a game breaking bug, that if you saved at the Cherry Poppers Ice Cream Company, there a good chance it will corrupt your save. Rockstar did fix this with future revision of the PS2 verison. This lead many people to have all of their progress gone hours into the game, simply by saving it. When i made the video, that save issue + comparing it to the OG Xbox port that released after was my rational behind it. Thank you for letting me know, as it only helps me improve and want to become better at making content! ❤ Here is the article that covers the glitch: screenrant.com/gta-vice-city-ice-cream-factory-save-glitch-corrupted/
@Bond007er
11 ай бұрын
That's good to know I'll never save at that location
@DualBackdrop
11 ай бұрын
hello there I have a question for you which one is easier to do (Aand which one is better) jtag or rgh?
@Joseph_Gill
11 ай бұрын
You're right, I was going to correct the other comment but seen your pinned
@StopSkeletonsFromFighting
11 ай бұрын
Yup, and that wasn't the only save corrupting bug. I'm not sure how many there actually were but for the whole trilogy on PS2 I used to stack my saves, at least two for each game just in case. I played San Andreas on 360 some years later and had no save issues there but the backwards compatibility was sketchy at times, with a few graphical glitches.
@SPG8989
11 ай бұрын
The thing is Vice City isn't even a port....it was made for the PS2 and ported to PC and Xbox
@cnk9822
10 ай бұрын
If you evee feel useless remember this dude played PS2 backups from a 1.1 USB and blamed the game for having awful load times 💀💀
@majorgear1021
7 ай бұрын
Not everyone can afford those fancy DVD doo-hicky thingamajigs!
@lukeskinwalker922
6 ай бұрын
He also called Half-Life on PS2 one of the worst ports ever made. Firstly it’s not even a port but rather a remaster and secondly it’s a solid remaster that works completely fine unless you’re so unhealthily obsessed with the original game that even the smallest change on the remaster triggers you.
@beetheimmortal
6 ай бұрын
@@majorgear1021 Literally just plug your PS2 into your PC with an Ethernet cable, bro.
@majorgear1021
6 ай бұрын
@@beetheimmortal That would have to be a really long cable since they are on different floors!
@beetheimmortal
6 ай бұрын
@@majorgear1021 You could also connect it to your router and use DHCP, like I do. Hell, you could even use a portable router as well, if you really need to. Anything but USB.
@mccm1830
9 ай бұрын
Dude runs PS2 games from USB 1.1 and complains about load times 😂
@fujiwaranovari
11 ай бұрын
>complains about loading times >runs ps2 games through USB lmao
@vrubayka
11 ай бұрын
It's faster than reading from CD
@fujiwaranovari
11 ай бұрын
@@vrubayka not even close, ps2 uses USB 1.1
@noodle9035
7 ай бұрын
@@vrubaykaare you retarded?
@CharlieFoxtrot
7 ай бұрын
@@vrubayka my man, USB 1.1 speed is barely over 1 MBPS, and that's just the full bandwidth top speed. Even 3G cellular networks are 1.5-3x faster than that
@izmo
7 ай бұрын
i had to turn off this video, but if he was really playing off USB, no wonder he's having issues. you can tell it's horrible if you ever try to watch an FMV
@RelCat
11 ай бұрын
Half-Life 1's PS2 port is pretty good, the only bad thing that i would say is some of the loading times between certain levels and the fact that Blue Shift & Opposing Force never came to PS2
@Gruntvc
11 ай бұрын
Half Life PS2 was the version I first played through. Not bad for a port and you can use mouse and keyboard too. Wish it had Blue Shift and especially Opposing Force included as well.
@xman777b
11 ай бұрын
all I know is Goldeneye on the N64 looked twice as good. I stopped playing Half-Life PS2 because it couldn't even meet those standards.
@Vicy5Modapk
11 ай бұрын
@@xman777b Wouldn't go as far as to say twice as good.
@xman777b
11 ай бұрын
@Vicy5Modapk I expect it came down to me MUCH preferring the Goldeneye engine, to whatever was running HL1
@DandyDNA
11 ай бұрын
@@xman777b How does Goldeneye look better lol? It's humiliated in every visual aspect by Half-Life
@47KRoman
11 ай бұрын
23:25 USB??? USB on PS2 is known to be too slow, especially for FVM cutscenes. I wouldn't recommend playing anything over USB.
@haaxxx9
11 ай бұрын
I was about to point that out as well and the only way to properly play PS2 games with a Mass storage device is to softmod it with a HHD/SSD for a phat PS2 that have a expansion bay slot for it. And even still there are some games you need to have certain settings on to get it running and working properly. I'm surprised that MAWK3 didn't even know the disadvantages of playing PS2 games via USB since I seen so many videos of explaining why it isn't a good experience to play PS2 games via USB drive, that's why I got myself a phat PS2 after I known about it.
@OnafetsEnovap
7 ай бұрын
@@haaxxx9Thank goodness I still have my original phat PS2... from 2003 - and yes, it still works after 20+ years. :)
@solidparas1925
6 ай бұрын
@@haaxxx9there are some games that are playable almost identical to the disc version but you have to find them yourself some of these games are mafia need for speed underground 2 most wanted carbon undercover all jak games the legend of spyro games
@angwysocnub4195
6 ай бұрын
@@OnafetsEnovapNice!!!!
@LampHatScott
10 ай бұрын
I have some criticisms on this. - You went for the low hanging fruit. The graphics, of course if you put the PC version next to PS2 it is going to look better. - Don't use emulation when reviewing ports. Always use original hardware and physical discs. Free McBoot has issues. - COD World at war final fronts is more so different game than port.
@tarekcat1
6 ай бұрын
also add this: -hes complaining about the loading times while playing using a damn USB
@LampHatScott
6 ай бұрын
@@tarekcat1 Doesn't Free McBoot use usb?
@ВладимирГалицкий-х8ц
3 ай бұрын
@LampHatScott freemcboot is custom firmware. Opl is a program to run backups. You can run games through Ethernet SMB, Ethernet UDP, HDD, MX4sio. If you have ps2fat. Then HDD will be your best option. For slim, Ethernet is your best option, but it can have really slow speed open world games due to RAM bottleneck . That is why DVD is still the best option for slim. But if you don't mind rare fps drop-downs in usual games, then smb can be a very good option.
@CurtiPeNET
2 ай бұрын
@@ВладимирГалицкий-х8цMX4SIO is also great for slim systems. I tried playing games using the DVD method and it burnt my laser.
@AuntieAliasing
11 ай бұрын
C'mon, man. You're running your backups through the PS2's USB 1.1 speeds which are far slower than the disc drive. That explains the 3-minute loading times you kept complaining about, and the constant hitching in L.A. Rush. For realistic loading times you should burn your games to DVD-Rs in ESR format for use with FreeDVDBoot, or just use real copies. (Also consider cleaning the lens for this!)
@HollowRick
11 ай бұрын
Yeah it annoyed me too if you're going to run digital backups then a phat ps2 and network adapter are the way
@VexAcer
11 ай бұрын
Yeah the loading in L.A. Rush is probably a failsafe that doesn't happen in normal gameplay (AKA an actual disc on a good drive). Other open world games like NFS Most Wanted have it too, but you wouldn't ever trigger it normally unless you have an insanely scratched disc/bad drive or in this case use something super slow like USB 1.1. The alternative is having no backup loading screen which means the player will fall through the unloaded world (Starsky & Hutch has this).
@takehirolol5962
10 ай бұрын
Is this really the case from this KZitemr? Even using a mini modem with the PS2 is a better choice than the USB 1.1 port...
@eltanodelcassa
10 ай бұрын
@@takehirolol5962 I do this with my PS2 slim, and it works wonders. Specially because my modem can be configured to be a Samba server, and I stored my games in a usb hard drive connected to it
@OmegaEnvych
10 ай бұрын
@@VexAcerI can confirm - I had LA Rush on Disc and Loading didn't happen to me at all. I thought that his drive was bad, but realistically it was probably the fact that he was running game from USB stick.
@derekclark254
11 ай бұрын
The reason the PS2 version of RE4 didn't quite look as good as the Gamecube version had nothing to do with the extra content. It was simply due to the fact that the PS2 wasn't as powerful as the Gamecube. The textures were sharper on the Gamecube and therefore looked slightly better.
@mandibiedermann2246
11 ай бұрын
In fact the extra content, cost reduce and the short time to develop the game only 3 months were the reason, because devs fit the game in a normal DVD5, RE4 was supposed for a DVD9
@xtr.7662
11 ай бұрын
its much more than that geometry is reduced over the board on the ps2 effects like water are turned down detail is also significantly lower
@mandibiedermann2246
11 ай бұрын
@@xtr.7662 just not a good optimization overall, as i said Capcom made it for only 3 months
@xtr.7662
11 ай бұрын
@@mandibiedermann2246 probably but the gc was still significantly more powerful than the ps2 in all areas so miracles like them running the same wouldnt be possible but yea this port is pretty downgraded compared to the gc one
@mandibiedermann2246
11 ай бұрын
@@xtr.7662 this is not true, GC was not more powerful than PS2
@Manic_Panic
11 ай бұрын
Vice City was literally built for PS2. The game suffers from a crapton of bugs on Xbox/PC like transparency issues, missing map props, GTA3 leftover assets and poorer audio quality. Just because the PS2 had interlaced image, doesn't make it a bad version. RE4 is another one that isn't bad, again, the GC (and Xbox) were much better at hiding jaggies due to the larger RAM that offered superior progressive scan image. The only other difference is color palette. Mafia is more of console VS PC as mentioned, rather than PS2 VS all other systems. The other games are correct. I'd say the games that suffered the most were the cross-gen licensed games, a lot of them were rebuilt for PS2 and Wii or just have straight up missing content when compared to the 360/PS3. They wanted to support the PS2 for long and after 2006 we really started seeing some stinkers.
@InkyBlitz
7 ай бұрын
Colors are off, the textures are blurry, the framerate isn't consistent, the audio is more compressed, you just blatantly ignore the missing effects, and the cutscenes are cinematics instead of in game and look worse as a result. Face it, you're in denial. RE4 was a bad port and the worst one at the time besides the original PC port, but at least that was moddable. "Mafia is more of console VS PC as mentioned, rather than PS2 VS all other systems." The purpose of this video isn't "PS2 VS all other consoles" it's just about PS2 ports of games that are worse. Which the PS2 version of that game is, even compared to the Xbox.
@Manic_Panic
7 ай бұрын
@@InkyBlitz Relax you're very stressed out. The textures are not blurrier, it's the different lighting that doesn't suit the game's artstyle. They did make the audio more crunchy though which is silly considering how much more storage the DVD disc has, a classic Capcom oversight. The Mafia port isn't any worse than the original Xbox version though unless you're talking about progressive scan support.
@SneakyGreninja
11 ай бұрын
this dude thinks GTA Vice City and Half-Life 1 on PS2 are "terrible" ports lmao
@Bond007er
11 ай бұрын
If he thinks the ps2 port of vice is bad he should see the definitive edition or the Android port
@SPG8989
11 ай бұрын
The thing is VC wasn't even a port.....it was made for the system initially. It was the damn lead platform. VC was ported to Xbox and PC. I mean wtf
@KingKrouch
11 ай бұрын
Half-Life had some additional content added to it.
@jessesalinas8534
11 ай бұрын
Ummmm.....Half Life on the PS2 was a Terrible Port. 😐
@tronguy93
11 ай бұрын
@@jessesalinas8534but it was pretty amazing for the time. People said that HL wouldn’t even run on the PS2
@maualcarazz
11 ай бұрын
If you're running games off of a USB drive on a modded ps2 it's obvious you're gonna get way longer times than everyone else as they run over USB 1.0 Ps2 games that run from an HDD or DVD run and load almost alike
@BlueEyedVibeChecker
11 ай бұрын
Ever played Crash Bandicoot Wrath of Cortex? It has loading screens as an exclusive PS2 feature. The GameCube and Xbox always loaded faster than it did. Same with the Saturn and PS3, it was harder to code for, so optimisation and load times suffered compared to other ports of their respective generations.
@sablikxl
11 ай бұрын
@@BlueEyedVibeCheckerYeah, there were games with ridiculously long loading times. But you can't ignore the fact that running games from an USB stick on PS2 just makes it even worse. And god, trying to run games like GTA San Andreas (that constantly need to load a lot of stuff during gameplay) from an USB stick makes them almost unplayable. I wouldn't be surprised if the issue with loading screens during races in LA Rush would be caused by runnning the game from USB as similar issue occurs in NFS Most Wanted and NFS Carbon (when you are in a race parts of the map need a longer time to load, making the game hang up for a moment before the next part of a map loads).
@Bluesykk
8 ай бұрын
@@sablikxl Cool, PS2 still ran worse....
@sirlimen333
7 ай бұрын
@BlueEyedVibeChecker That Crash game got a greatest hits release that fixed the loading issues.
@SINftare
6 ай бұрын
It's USB 1.1. 1place-hdd, 2 -dvd drive, 3- from memory card slot mx4sio, 4 -usb.
@ENRNDFR
6 ай бұрын
Seriously, you're saying these things are a bad port just because they're slow as fuck, and you're using a USB to play them? Fucking hell.
@tarekcat1
6 ай бұрын
he's still right about having low frame rates and terrible visuals and bugs but yeah the long loading screens is the silliest reason ever
@OrangeBox93
11 ай бұрын
The red 9 was in the original GameCube version though
@DJEylisium
11 ай бұрын
This guy is absolutely clueless isn't it? Haha
@themegaman91965
10 ай бұрын
I played the RE4 port on a CRT back in the day, so the roughness of the port went under the radar, but surprisingly a good amount of the original quality was squeezed in with the limitations the PS2 had.
@father042
11 ай бұрын
Half-Life? That was a great port with a unique co-op campaign
@tarekcat1
6 ай бұрын
it's not a port at this point, it's a PS2 exclusive expansion pack
@masterbawler
11 ай бұрын
You mentioned running one of the games off a USB drive. From what I've heard, this makes loading screens longer. Is this the case for all the games you've tested in this video?
@pomfric
11 ай бұрын
it's one of the worst ways you can play games on ps2
@TeHbTeHb
11 ай бұрын
it's one of the best ways you can play actually because it reduce noise of disk spin, long loading times is gone with newer opl versions, though there is still video lags like mercenaries 2 showed in video, but i got that lags even on old disk because cd dvd media is degraded with time and games that worked fine and in perfect condition with zero scratches now got glitches and freezes, so only good way without burning dvd is opl
@masterbawler
11 ай бұрын
@@TeHbTeHb that all makes sense although it's not representative of the original intended ps2 experience, in which case there's a chance that this vid is misleading
@Luis-Hernandez.2022
11 ай бұрын
USB in PS2 with OPL is slow and games tend to crash a lot. SMB is the best way to play if you don't want to wear your disc drive out.
@pomfric
11 ай бұрын
@@TeHbTeHb depends, the usb slots on ps2 are 1.1 and are the slowest form of usb slots
@spongebobfan78
11 ай бұрын
The Sonic games got the short end of the stick when it comes to PS2 ports. It's clear that SEGA was prioritizing the Nintendo platforms more, and taking advantage of Xbox's power, with the PS2 feeling like they put it there just because the platform is popular. But damn, as someone who grew up playing on PS2 (family PC is not really suitable for gaming, struggling to even run PS2-era games, up until like 2017), I am thankful for the series being on the PS2 for so long that I was able to play a lot of the games.
@crestofhonor2349
2 ай бұрын
The PS2 was noticeably less powerful than the GameCube which is why the Sonic games looked and ran worse on PS2
@joeycommet45
11 ай бұрын
First time I ever played RE4 was on the PS2 back in 2010. Looking back, the audio and visual qualities are lacking compared to the GC version.
@Chico18124
11 ай бұрын
I know what you mean it’s a bit more muffled and a lot darker than the original
@Jeymez
11 ай бұрын
oh it was night and day for me, considering i played the GameCube first.
@ariverforyou
11 ай бұрын
My man, you forgot Spiderman Web Of Shadows. Not only its a complete demake, it literally changed the game's genre from a 3d open world to a 2.5d sidescroller. Great job with the rest of the video tho. Now I want to play some of those games again but in their best version to see what did I miss. I played Mercenaries 2, totally disappointed when I saw how different were the other versions.
@MrJohnlennon007
11 ай бұрын
CoD 3 PS2 was my first CoD game so i hold it dearly. Multi on Xbox was terrific. CoD 3 was missing veteran difficulty as well if I remember correctly.
@GenerationZ313
9 ай бұрын
It seems both PS2 & PS3 owners got a short end of the stick when I came to call of duty 3 as neither versions ran well. I recently saw digital foundry put up a video where they tried to play call of duty 3 on the PS3 at 1080p and it was a complete disaster. It was no wonder that I didn't like the game when I first played as I was constantly getting headaches I just had to stop playing altogether.
@elitef40
11 ай бұрын
Recently, I noticed that the ps2 port of re4 had a slightly different Ganado theme. I kinda prefer it tbh.
@Bay3r97
6 ай бұрын
Making this video was a mistake...
@mccm1830
9 ай бұрын
12:27 Whoah whoah whoah, the PS2 version of Half-Life is the best version period, and i'll stand by that.
@lukeskinwalker922
6 ай бұрын
It’s not perfect but it’s still good. Most of the haters of it are just salty about the change and it’s mostly hatred for the sake of it. This guy couldn’t be bothered to explain why he thought it was “garbage” as if it’s somehow a bad game by default just for having some differences from the original game.
@tarekcat1
6 ай бұрын
@@lukeskinwalker922the reason why most people (mostly half life fans) hate it are ugly HD models which it's despite being a Con, it's still impressive that the PS2 managed to run Half life properly, and even with better graphics
@lukeskinwalker922
6 ай бұрын
@@tarekcat1 The HD character models aren’t that bad. I think they look better than the original.
@tarekcat1
6 ай бұрын
@@lukeskinwalker922 i agree, my only complaints are Barney's looks and the SMG being completely into the M4A1 an assault rifle with different bullet caliber instead of being a higher quality MP5
@ashraffgodrie
6 ай бұрын
Including Resident Evil 4 for PS2 is quite harsh, considering the fact that most people played it on the PS2.
@lukeskinwalker922
6 ай бұрын
RE4 had a notable drop in quality on PS2 but it’s not one of the worst ports and neither are Vice City or HL1 on PS2. He also is emulating these games which makes them not run as smoothly.
@uzi7462
6 ай бұрын
To say that Max Payne 'shoehorned in' bullet-time is crazy. That game made it what it is today
@StopSkeletonsFromFighting
11 ай бұрын
Great video but I will not stand by this RE4 PS2 slander. Yes it had the extra content like you mentioned, but also it played just as good as the GC version. And the fact that they were able to make it happen at all is a miracle. I honestly couldn't care less if the visuals took a hit. Also, I wasn't aware Mercenaries 2 released on PS2, I need to track that one down! That looks like some goooood garbo!! One last thing, do Xbox next! (if you haven't already)
@MAWK3
11 ай бұрын
I'd love to do the 360 next as well as covering cross gen 360 releases! Ports like Titanfall and Rise of the Tomb Raider really pushed the hardware and still hold up well even to this day. Thanks for stopping by and watching my video Derek! I've been watching your videos for years now. I really enjoy your punching weight series 😁
@Areala21
11 ай бұрын
Mercenaries 2 on the PS2 is not a great port, but it's better than he's giving it credit for. I bought it back when it first released, and I can confirm the FMV cutscene issues, for example, are not present when it's played via the disc. It makes a lot of concessions due to hardware limits, but I think the team who ported it did about as well as could be expected. Definitely worth a play for the "I can't believe they did that!" factor. :)
@StopSkeletonsFromFighting
11 ай бұрын
@@MAWK3 nah I mean original Xbox! Half-Life 2, Doom 3, Unreal 2, Painkiller, Counterstrike, and I’m sure a few more I can’t think of off the top of my head
@AleksPizana
7 ай бұрын
QTEs on the PS2 were horrible, so no, it did not play the same as the GC version. It almost felt like the game froze on you every time you saw the inputs appear on screen.
@lewisgrant7622
6 ай бұрын
Tbh. Xbox could’ve had it if they didn’t fumble on their interview with Mikami
@shaZam9
6 ай бұрын
"Best known for shoehorning in the Bullet Time mechanic" ??? Wtf are you talking about
@lolcow6668
6 ай бұрын
Yeah he is just tryna sound intelligent but doesn’t know what the words he is saying mean.
@Inuzumi
10 ай бұрын
The original version of Resident Evil 4 for PC was so bad that when I tried the PS2 version felt like a massive improvement. Like, the game was actually playable and the controls worked! I mean yeah, compared to the Gamecube it's an inferior version from a technical point of view but for PS2 standards it runs perfectly. Sadly my PS2 died along the way and never managed to finish it there, pretty sad because I was having a great time. I'm gonna blame Metal Gear 2/3 and their long ass never ending cutscenes for that.
@Jinjerandrollover
2 ай бұрын
Yeah a Close friend of mine told me that the controls were rubbish 😂😂😂😂 but he managed to complete the Resident's evil 4 OG version 😂😂ee
@DudleyKetsukane
11 ай бұрын
12:28 guy put the hl1 port that has a entire extra campaign and better character models on a list of bad ps2 ports
@LouisBee
11 ай бұрын
Resident Evil 4 on PS2 was a bit of a miracle port given how closely it matched the Gamecube version, especially given how it was tailor made for Nintendo's hardware. The same would apply to Just Cause and Splinter Cell, since these worked to the strengths of top-end PC hardware of the era, the fact that either are on PS2 is amazing to consider. I wouldn't give Deus Ex on PS2 a hardtime either since it is a complex PC game being compacted onto a machine with barely any RAM. The loading times and performance can be disappointing but Deus Ex is still well worthwhile on PS2 due to the scale of the world and writing in general. LA Rush, nor Rocky, were ports, they were simply rushed to market so played glitchy as a result. Spider-Man 3 and Call of Duty 3 were just disappointing games. Mafia, Max Payne 1 and 2 all deserved better PlayStation 2 conversions. Fun fact about Wipeout Pulse: It is a European-only PS2 port, and sells for crazy money now. I never knew it had a memory card breaking bug though, I remember Jak X having something similar and that was enough to put me off playing it. Your issue with FMVs on Mercenaries 2 is purely memory stick related. The read/write rates are not very fast via USB on PS2.
@HollowRick
11 ай бұрын
Yup funny enough it's actually slower than reading discs if you're going to run OPL on a ps2 it's always better use the hard drive bay with a network adapter
@MemasMaklas
11 ай бұрын
I remember playing many of these titles from video on PS2, and many of these games were released when Xbox 360, and PS3 was presented on market. So, many of these ports actually pretty decent, when you consider how old PS2 hardware was in 2007-2009. To compare Crysis released in 2007.
@adamkentisaac
10 ай бұрын
I will never ever be able to hear the phrase "life cycle" without thinking of Goldman from House Of The Dead 2;
@pentexsucks43
6 ай бұрын
to protect the LOIF cycle
@baerenonkel
11 ай бұрын
Great video. Just one small nitpick: the og version is not called a port. It’s just the original. It’s a minor quibble but it bugs me a little all the same.
@ThierryRocksTV
11 ай бұрын
8:13 Wtf Spider-Man 3 wasn't even that bad!!
@StudioMod
8 ай бұрын
You keep saying "much more blurrier" and "much more harder". You realize this isn't grammatically correct right? You just say "blurrier" not "more blurrier", it's already a comparative statement. Think of it like a double negative, only sort of reversed. You could also say "more blurry", by returning "blurrier" to it's non-comparative form. But both words can't be comparative. I'm only saying this because you said this phrase about 4-5 times in the video and I'm only halfway through. *Just something to remember.*
@MAWK3
8 ай бұрын
I really appreciate you telling me this, as I didn't pick up on it when I originally made the video. Since this was releaded, I've given myself more time in post editing to catch double negatives and reduce the amount of repeat words to.
@joselitosaas7608
8 ай бұрын
@@MAWK3 you forgot the stuntman ignition,Lord of the rings aragorns quest,Harry Potter half blood prince,sonic unleashed, and spiderman 3 and web of shadows ps2 versions.
@darknid158
6 ай бұрын
Vice City was literally made for PS2 lmao
@Ivegotsomewater81
11 ай бұрын
Good video, but RE4 is a great port, and all the ports mentioned in the "honorable mentions" sections are fucking amazing (especially Half-Life on PS2). And Vice City on PS2 was the first version made for it. Just delete the segment for RE4 and the Honorable Mentions section and you're golden.
@vkermodekumav8949
11 ай бұрын
I mean, the fact that RE4 was watered down is just facts. Just cause you cant except tue reality of these games doesnt mean he has to remove anything from his video. Put the effort into making your own video and n you are golden.
@BrawlinEntertaintment2K
11 ай бұрын
There is actually one really really bad port in the Honorable Mentions section, Sonic Heroes (PS2 version is just so f*cking bad, play the GameCube or OG Xbox versions instead) I'd also say most PS2 ports of Sega games are bad, Super Monkey Ball Deluxe on the PS2 really is a horrible abomination, poor framerates and freezing in the level select screen (Again, Deluxe on the OG Xbox is much much better and so are the original two GameCube games) And also Half Life 1 on PS2 is actually one of the better PS2 ports lol. If you want a bad console port of a Half Life game, check out Half Life 2 for the OG Xbox.
@Ivegotsomewater81
11 ай бұрын
@@BrawlinEntertaintment2K Half Life on PS2 is the GOAT! I gotta make a vid on it sometime! 👍
@krono5el
10 ай бұрын
they are all the worst versions still tho
@BrawlinEntertaintment2K
10 ай бұрын
@@krono5el While Half Life on PS2 isn't as good as it is on PC (As long as you stay away from Half Life Source), it's actually a great port for what it is, the real worst version of Half Life is the Dreamcast version and that version never officially released.
@mindujiman
11 ай бұрын
Am I the only one who enjoyed Max Payne so much on the PS2?
@GrumpyCat97
11 ай бұрын
try pc version
@hardcoreking52
11 ай бұрын
I love it, it's how I first played the game.
@krono5el
10 ай бұрын
you had no choice : P
@codyprickett7969
7 ай бұрын
How I played the first game
@majorgear1021
7 ай бұрын
Yep. You’re alone on this one.
@matcam89
11 ай бұрын
Call of Duty WaW Final Fronts is a completely different game, worth playing for that campaign on a PS2 - Just found it thrifting!
@draytonjames81
7 ай бұрын
It’s actually great if you can look past the 20 year old graphics! Also adds more context to the next gen waw story. Like miller and roebuck if I remember correctly
@matcam89
7 ай бұрын
@dennis2478 I recently replayed it on a crt and pretty amazing how crisp the graphics were. I think alot of people are discovering this game and playing it on modern displays giving it a much worse look I enjoyed my time with it, albeit the game is short and nothing to do afterwards
@draytonjames81
7 ай бұрын
@@matcam89 ya just gotta accept it for what it is.. an old game. If you can look past that, a lot of games are still enjoyable. Just understand the tech of the time. Like yeah it’s not an all time great but who cares
@draytonjames81
7 ай бұрын
@@matcam89 and yes modern displays kill games. I have a whole old school setup for my ps2 with those old box tvs and what not. Kinda adds to it imo too.
@matcam89
7 ай бұрын
@dennis2478 I would of loved to see a zombies mode in this game I mean they did it on DS and Wii lol
@Clay3613
11 ай бұрын
Calling RE4 a bad port is so laughable. Interestingly Scarface for PS2 is the best version, despite Xbox and PC having "HD" versions. One of the few titles impossible to emulate on a PS3.
@krono5el
10 ай бұрын
scarface is a D tier game tho, so having the best D tier game really isnt a flex.
@captainthunderbolt7541
11 ай бұрын
RE4 is in no way a bad port. It is an inferior port to the GameCube version, but there was never a scenario in which the PS2 could have matched the GameCube version. Anyone who calls it a bad port is probably too young to have experienced it in its own time, and are speaking wholly without context.
@BlueEyedVibeChecker
11 ай бұрын
I think in this context they don't mean bad as in "it sucks" but bad as in, the worst port in comparison. I may be wrong, but it seems to be the case.
@HollowRick
11 ай бұрын
Yep I bought Resident Evil 4 day one In 2005 for the PS2 completed it with a mate over the weekend on a CRT with component cables the game looked fine and played great
@captainthunderbolt7541
11 ай бұрын
@@HollowRick I would obviously never go back to the PS2 version today, but back in the day when this was the version you had access to, it was more than playable, and turned out way better than anyone was expecting.
@lewisgrant7622
6 ай бұрын
Ykw I was 4 turning 5 when re4 came out. Played it in 2019/2020. I mean yeah it’s not aged well but it was still fun
@tidepoolclipper8657
11 ай бұрын
You have to give credit to Half-Life PS2 that the rock textures and the character models look nicer than they do in the PC version.
@jacobscarberry4799
7 ай бұрын
On the back of the case, it states that there were new and improved textures and models of certain items. It's a great way to play the game.
@keirjarvie6998
11 ай бұрын
Here’s two poor PS2 ports I have. Sonic Unleashed: While not as sloppily made port like the PS2 ports of Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog and certainly is at best playable, it still leaves a lot to be desired. It is a direct port of the Nintendo Wii version and oh boy. The graphics looked horrendous to the point where it looks worse than the original Dreamcast version of Sonic Adventure from a decade prior, the compression on the pre rendered cutscenes looked noticeable, the load times can get quite long and the game doesn’t even have 16:9 widescreen support. In 2008 where Widescreen TVs were becoming the norm. If you can look past those faults, then the PS2 port of Sonic Unleashed is at best playable. But at the same time, there’s much better options to play the game. Secret Agent Clank: I’ve never played the PS2 ports of both Ratchet & Clank Size Matters and Jak & Daxter The Lost Frontier so I can’t really comment. I have played Secret Agent Clank on PS2 and oh boy it was a mess. The load times are so horrendous that they can almost be as bad as Sonic 06’s load times as they came take up to around 30 seconds and they happen when you boot up the game, load your save file and select a level. The compression on the Pre Rendered cutscenes was also a joke as the audio sounded muffled and the pixelisation was atrocious. Not only that, but I recall some glitches in the game. Yeah just stay well away from this horrid port. It’s a shame that although Ratchet & Clank helped make the PlayStation 2 a household name, their last outing on the system went out on such a sour note.
@TheDudeWithNoName
11 ай бұрын
Spiderman 3 slander won't be taken lightly! Funny that RE4 is probably my most played ps2 game, I've beaten Leon's campaign 15 times and Ada's 4-5 times, Great extras like the Mercenaries and the short but still fun Assignment Ada, They make RE4 PS2 a superior experience over Gamecube version. Edit: My bad, Seems like everything but Separate Ways are included in the Gamecube version but to me, It feels like It's a worthy enough addition that puts the game a tiny bit higher than the Gamecube version, But i will say it is the worst of the bunch when it comes to all the other real & definitive version ports of the game.
@menoseloso119
11 ай бұрын
The GC original has those. It’s only missing SW. The PS2 port is objectively the worst version, aside from the initial PC vanilla release. (The iPhone and Zeebo versions don’t count because those are demakes, not ports).
@TheDudeWithNoName
11 ай бұрын
@@menoseloso119 My bad on that, Thanks for the correction, I'd still prefer playing on PS2 just for the sake of extra unlockables (Costumes and P.R.L Handcannon) and Separate Ways, It's not pretty at all, and sound quality is bad but i still love it, I wonder why the PS2 ended up like that, for example, the compressed music which is weird considering a PS2 having 4.7GB dvds vs Gamecube's mini discs, I know PS2 is the weakest of the 6th gen consoles but i feel like Shinji Mikami's hatred for a port to the PS2 might've had something to do with the port's quality? Probably not lol.
@dandrawsit4915
11 ай бұрын
@TheDudeWithNoName technically RE4 Wii edition is the best Standard Definition version with the graphics, high framerate of the GameCube version, separate ways, and the addition of a very accurate IR pointer control option for aiming and regular controller support as well
@TheDudeWithNoName
11 ай бұрын
@@dandrawsit4915 I've played the game on Wii and you're correct, Only issue i had with it is that you have to stick out your arm for accurate shots and if you're playing for too long it will put a decent amount of strain on your arm, Sadly, I didn't have a standard controller but that would've made it more comfortable for sure.
@menoseloso119
11 ай бұрын
@@dandrawsit4915 maaaaan, the Wii version is so good; I wish they implemented gyro controls on future releases of RE4 like they did with RE5, 6, Revs 1&2 for the Switch (I know Rev1 on 3DS already had gyro controls, so I find its absence on other consoles that support gyro so bizarre). It’s not as good as pointer controls, but it’d be something.
@Greenchrysopsaro
11 ай бұрын
How many games are you running from the USB that could be a factor in loading
@IncognitaEX
10 ай бұрын
So Wipeout could literally _wipe out_ all your save data ... 🤔 That is not even ironic.
@majorgear1021
7 ай бұрын
I see what you did there! It’s late, but I award you winning the internet a few months ago.
@Zanarkand_0
11 ай бұрын
I remember back when I was in high school my friend talked me into buying RE4 on PS2. I played it for 5 minutes and felt motion sick and couldn't get the hang of the controls so rather than returning it, I just left it on the shelf to collect dust. Probably 6 or so years later, I had watched my brother playing the remaster and I was actually getting into it watching him. Decided to say fuck it and give it another shot. I played through 2 or 3 chapters then bought it on PS4. What an amazing game man, honestly. My friend was right.
@HollowRick
11 ай бұрын
Bruh
@ngiws4402
2 ай бұрын
Not that he tessted the games on a ps2 1.1 usb port, he also compared the consoles performance with another console that was released prior...
@Meansoduck
10 ай бұрын
this is a cool video series but calling a lot of these ports "bad" is disingenuous. like yeah, of course RE4, the CoD games, and Just Cause look worse than the Gamecube and Xbox versions, and that's because the GC and Xbox are way more powerful in just about every way with several exceptions.
@robinwindsrygg9568
2 ай бұрын
This is why the dislike-button was important for distinguishing bad videos from the good ones. At least there’s still the comments.
@james-ch
11 ай бұрын
Have played ps2 deus ex recently for a couple hours honestly it really wasn't that bad. Yes its more simplified than the pc original but i think its for the better
@james-ch
11 ай бұрын
Also you forgot age of empires 2 that was one of the worst things I have ever experienced, I know rts games don't tend to work with a controller but that was special
@ajsingh4545
11 ай бұрын
It's a great port in emulation bevause the frame rate is locked and it has out of the box controller support whereas PC game does not. Plus you can increase the resolution too in emu
@james-ch
11 ай бұрын
@@ajsingh4545 yep controller support is massive, you don't have to press fucking brackets and semicolons to do basic tasks lmao
@eurosonly
2 ай бұрын
@@james-ch looooool.Freaking pc gaming man. It's like they want us to get a sprained finger having to stretch it across the keyboard.
@BromanEntertainment
11 ай бұрын
A few of these games (Spider-man 3, Call of Duty 3 and Tony Hawk's Proving Ground for example) I only played on Wii, so I know what it's like feeling like you're missing out compared to the "big boy" consoles. I often get that feeling with Switch ports too.
@josetomascamposrobledano4618
11 ай бұрын
Re4 on the PS2 gets an easy pass for me because it was the first time we saw the “DLC”. But when it comes to RE4 en general, the Wii version is easily the best port for me!
@gabrielm1919
11 ай бұрын
Aside from the cross generation releases like Mercenaries 2, LA RUSH and Just Case, all other games are decent considering the context of release. You mention that the PC version run better, of course it does, but would require a PC that cost 4 to 5 times the price of a PS2. Also, the low resolution and interlancing of the PS2 version does not look bad on a CRT TV of the time. Therefore, these comparisons are unfair.
@Material_Monkey
7 ай бұрын
Yeah, a lot of the games just didnt age that good but where perfectly fine when they came out. The difference between console and pc was also bigger than it is today
@324greg
7 ай бұрын
>Shitty Raimi Movie >Loves MSM 2 bruh whats wrong with you
@LJ_SigmaKING_ToxMASC_JOKERLyfe
11 ай бұрын
Max Payne 2 on PS2 was really bad its true. it looked awful. but it was legendary on PC.
@jonathanplooij3666
9 ай бұрын
the ps2 version of gta is amazing.Whatever you do avoid the new triology.
@Jinjerandrollover
2 ай бұрын
Literally Vice City was developed for being played on PS2 So it is normal that is the best version
@dragozillasaur813
8 ай бұрын
the bad ps2 ports I know of are Godzilla save the earth, rampage total destruction and Godzilla Unleashed
@majorgear1021
7 ай бұрын
Rampage is bad? Darn. I just downloaded , I mean.. purchased it, for my ps2.
@cf105cp
7 ай бұрын
Spider-Man 3 is not a shitty movie. It wasn't great but it was far from shitty. Then you use PC Spidey 3 and compared it to PS2 when they aren't even the same game. This video is shit and that alone proves it.
@pengu6335
11 ай бұрын
Funny how Re4 is on here. The PS2 version was how I first experienced the game. I had to have beaten it at least over ten times in them days. I played Spider-Man 3 on PS2 back in the day as well. I didn't think was that bad at all lol.
@lukeskinwalker922
6 ай бұрын
Vice City and HL1 are on here too which makes me wonder if he put these games on here by his first impressions of the games alone without having actually played the games.
@gregoryberrycone
4 ай бұрын
Resident Evil 4 and Splinter Cell Double Agent are both miracle ports to be honest. They both obviously have their drawbacks compared to other versions of the games, but when considering the limited hardware they both play fantastically and still look really good on a CRT TV (the way they are intended to be experienced) i would say neither comes anywhere close to worst ps2 ports. an example of a strong contender would be something like brothers in arms road to hill 30, where the framerate is so low as to basically render the game unplayable compared to the xbox or PC versions.
@mindujiman
11 ай бұрын
I found it hard to get an original copy of Vice City. I heard it had less censorship and the gas grenades made the game run low on FPS, but I didn't have that problem. It's a shame they removed them. I never heard about the Cherry Popper glitch
@jacobscarberry4799
7 ай бұрын
Oh, using the tear gas was a huge issue with FPS
@father042
11 ай бұрын
According to Critical Nobody Double Agent on PS2 is actually pretty good and way better than the other PS2 versions which had a lot of cut content, I actually prefer that version over the next gen one, especially the PC port which is completely broken
@Steambull1
11 ай бұрын
My first Max Payne playthrough was with the PS2 version, didn't know of better, so I just tolerated it. Totally different experience on PC. As for RE4, I played it 2-3 times on PS2 and thought it was fine. Speaking of RE4, I know that the initial PC version release was terrible, no shading etc. However, I remember installing something called "RE4+", which was a version patched both officially and by fans. Combined with a PS pad, I found that version to be excellent - however, it's hard to find any info about it these days, you just get the damn remake with any search. I still have it burned on a DVD and will probably just install that if I ever feel like playing it again.
@duff0120
6 ай бұрын
battlefield modern combat on ps2 was a miracle, there is no way that it could run on gamecube
@Big_Chungus96
6 ай бұрын
You put some fucking respect on spiderman 3, that was a cinematic masterpiece.
@AlphaZeroX96
11 ай бұрын
It's unfair to call PS2 ports bad because of graphics and sounds. Lack of content and the game being unstable, understandable. Visuals not being pretty is a bad reason. Half-Life on the PS2 is not a bad port by the way.
@CrocoDylianVT
10 ай бұрын
11:04 as a 6yo kid I loved LA Rush without even knowing its name, now I know it, I don't have it anymore to play it, I don't care if the PS2 port is a bad port, I wanna play it on a PS2 again
@MAWK3
10 ай бұрын
h
@javiervargas6366
11 ай бұрын
This MF believe he is going to get PS5 graphics on a F PS2 this is laughable
@Zeni4825
11 ай бұрын
spider-man 3 on the ps2 may have bad graphics, but so does the ps3 version, plus the web swinging on the ps3 version looks like it is constantly holding the player back, while the ps2 port have a similar (but not exactly the same) web swinging mechanic to the second game I much prefer play the ps2 port anyday than the ps3 port
@mogu4182
11 ай бұрын
I know it was just an Honorable mention but I just wanted to say Half Life on ps2 is rough but I would argue that its still a really enjoyable experience and offers a unique way to play half life since the ps2 has a lot of differences from the pc version
@xman777b
11 ай бұрын
all I know is Goldeneye on the N64 looked twice as good. I stopped playing Half-Life PS2 because it couldn't even meet those standards
@mogu4182
11 ай бұрын
@@xman777b to be fair Golden Eye Had a lot less going on visually
@sebastiankulche
9 ай бұрын
I would put HL2 on one of the best, not one of the worst.
@StardustX7
11 ай бұрын
World at war on PS2 is not a port, it s another game
@ThermalGoguh
11 ай бұрын
Did you really whine about loadtimes while playing the games off of a USB stick? That's like complaining about the rough ride in a car after you removed all of the air from the tires.
@ramrodbldm9876
6 ай бұрын
Kidboy shut your ds. You really whined like the beta you are
@mrshiver3241
2 ай бұрын
i lost all respect for this video when you mentioned half life as an honorable mention for worst ps2 port. its actually an astonishing port from pc to ps2
@MrSoftypolimer
4 ай бұрын
PS2 RE4 is actually a miracle port. A lot of compromised are not that noticable on consumer CRT.
@cpuwizard9225
6 ай бұрын
Half Life 1 on the PS2 is objectively the best vanilla way to play Half Life. Updated models and textures, full mouse and keyboard support, steady framerate, split screen co-op expansion campaign. The only better way to play would be the emulate a PS2 at 4K.
@firefly44220
11 ай бұрын
Re4 on ps2 was fantastic. You’re completely insane to put it on a list like this 🙄
@Orochi_REDIORI
11 ай бұрын
fax lol this video has to be a joke in my view.
@krono5el
10 ай бұрын
the game will always be great but the ps2 version is the worst one of the bunch, total pass.
@Orochi_REDIORI
10 ай бұрын
@@krono5el fake news, also Re 4 is overrated bullshit, there were way better re on the 2 than this one like code veronica which was extremely underrated.
@krono5el
10 ай бұрын
@@Orochi_REDIORI Dreamcast is the best console of all time so code veronica is fire
@X4PN0
10 ай бұрын
Cod3, Project 8, Spoder 3 was a mess even on ps3 also Deus Ex with all of their issues was a technical miracle on ps2
@morrismarlboroni1009
11 ай бұрын
I still don't get how they butchered my boy Max Payne on the PS2. They seem like easy ports compared to complex stuff like Deus Ex.
@ArchangelRG09
11 ай бұрын
Ps2 wasnt ready for pc originated games contrary to the more powerful xbox
@jacobscarberry4799
7 ай бұрын
I was still able to play it just fine on PS2, but yeah playing on Xbox or PC is better
@sebastiankulche
2 ай бұрын
@@ArchangelRG09 Half Life 1?
@ZealotsACH
11 ай бұрын
Not only did you have GTA Vice City, which wasn’t a port, on this list, but you also refer to Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man as “shitty”. I wish I could give more than 1 thumbs down.
@michael-pg8fi
11 ай бұрын
Lol ps2 re4's blury visuals kinda add to the horror aesthetics if you play it at night with a old tv
@michael-pg8fi
11 ай бұрын
Vice city ps2 version is the most ideal way to play this game btw
@krono5el
10 ай бұрын
naw it just makes you feel like you need glasses when you dont : P
@crestofhonor2349
2 ай бұрын
The "blurry" visuals weren't that way on a CRT. Also it was intended for the GameCube
@viewtifulvash6068
11 ай бұрын
Bruh, the PS2 port of Half-Life was actually pretty solid. I don't remember Deus Ex being that bad on the PS2, either. Still a good video nonetheless
@noaharkadedelgado
11 ай бұрын
LA Rush was a horrible game in general when it came to performance, every LA Rush port has horrible glitches and performance. But the game itself isn’t actually bad it just lacks to many features like cat customization 😢 Edit: The reason project 8 had no online on PS3 was because when the ps3 came out you couldn’t connect online until the PSN update
@jeshuggah7325
2 ай бұрын
I would argue that Project 8 on PS2 actually benefited from being on the THUG2 engine. It looks and feels more like a Tony Hawk game than anything after it. A decent one for that matter!
@devonwilliams5738
7 ай бұрын
Half Life and Deus Ex on the PS2 were how I were introduced to those franchises, and I'm a massive Deus Ex fan now.
@thepooroldsoul8179
11 ай бұрын
Honestly, most of these "ports" are best played on the PS2. Also, Vice City shouldn't even be on here, because the PS2 is the best way to play it, also it's not a port.
@BlueEyedVibeChecker
11 ай бұрын
Depends on the game, GTA SA for example has only a single plus for PS2, the orange fog, which can be modded into the PC version for the definitive experience. Other than that, PS2 GTA SA runs at ½ the frame rate, lower resolution, quality, and has a slightly jarring input delay that doesn't make it unplayable, but still kills immersion. PS2 ports are generally cut down from Xbox, Gamecube, visually from Dreamcast and PC too. Not "bad" ports, but definitely the worst of the good ports.
@krono5el
10 ай бұрын
nothing is best played on the ps2 : P
@NotThatJonesShow
7 ай бұрын
W@W on PS2 is a spin off of the game not a port and it was developed by a outsourced studio which is why it feels so weird
@civilwarfare101
2 ай бұрын
"Based on that shitty Sam Raimi movie from 2007". What exactly is so shitty about it? There's worse movies out there. Also, I don't think the SC DA PS2 port is as bad as you described, it's at least more playable than Max Payne 1.
@7dogguy
11 ай бұрын
I rented mercenaries to on the 360 while I had my friend's Xbox for like a week and I loved Mercenaries so I asked my mom to rent it for my PlayStation 2 and it was literally compared to the 360 version I was so disappointed
@MultiKamil97
10 ай бұрын
Shitty Sam Raimi movie from 2007?! Man, Spider-Man 3 maybe wasn't the best in the trilogy but it was nowhere near shitty 🤨
@MaxForce357
6 ай бұрын
The graphical drop in quality when comparing gameplay and screenshots from Xbox to PS2 for the original Tom Clancy’s Splinter Cell is bonkers.
@TheNeXTGUI
11 ай бұрын
shadow the hedgehog should be on this list too
@Math_0027
7 ай бұрын
if there's one thing worse than that mercenaries 2 port it's this video's resolution
@GUNUFofficial
6 ай бұрын
Wtf no sonic heroes?
@Hoodrichkahoot
11 ай бұрын
Would be cool to see the best ports ever made video
@kadebass6187
Ай бұрын
One of the big things with the PS2 is 16:9 aspect ratio. The PS2 doesn’t really do 16:9 aspect ratio properly games got around this by typically doing anamorphic (compressing the x axis and with your TV stretching it back into form) or letterboxing (basically cutting off the upper and lower proportions of the display image and then fitting that onto a 16:9 display) both of which solutions are not ideal. Within the context of anamorphic its blurrier than a native 16:9 solution as you are still using a 480x640 (4:3) image rather than 480x853.33 (notice also how it doesn’t divide evenly). The problem with letterboxing is that you are effectively speaking lowering your FOV (in the vertical axis at least)
@Masonrytodger
11 ай бұрын
Quantum of Solace isn’t a bad game, it’s hard yet a weird control scheme but you can change it to ghost recon future soldier basically. It has extra levels the PS3 version doesn’t have. The boss fights are annoying to a degree it’s probably the worst thing about the game and loading screens after death
@mandibiedermann2246
11 ай бұрын
Quantum of Solace is one of best looking games on PS2 and very well done 👌
@dlbutters7164
11 ай бұрын
The worst RE4 port wasn't the PS2's, it was the PC port, it wasn't even playable with a mouse and keyboard at launch, only by modding it...
@lively2774
11 ай бұрын
Nah you tweakin with those honorable mentions. Sonic Heroes is the best 3D Sonic game and yes I am biased on that one, Half-Life was a fine port and even improved on the controls in some way like letting you just jump twice to activate the long jump instead of crouch jumping, and Vice City was literally made for the PS2? Not a port in the slightest. Also RE4 on the PS2 is great
@vkermodekumav8949
11 ай бұрын
Just to point out, he didnt say RE4 was a bad game on PS2. He said that the PS2 port was lacking when it comes to visuals. That is clearly a fact. That doesnt make it bad game, its just not as good as the original due to its flaws.
@nonstopmaximum2141
11 ай бұрын
Sonic Heroes on PS2 runs poorly compared to Xbox and Gamecube. RE4 also has downgraded graphics and very compressed audio.
@ArchangelRG09
11 ай бұрын
@@nonstopmaximum2141i agree, Sonic Heroes plays much better on xbox than ps2, i have both and can make that call lol
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