This was a really excellent video. There are so many nonsense videos about sailing but this one really imparts key bit of knowledge about how a rig should be set up and how stay-lock fitting work. Please keep these more technical videos coming.
@billygrahamyachtsinc753
Жыл бұрын
Jade, is such a man of few words, but each one means something. Soooooo! Professional. "Silence is golden" I live my life on the premise, that " when all is said, there is more said than done". In today's society, people yap, yap, yap. Just a lot of unnecessary noise pollution. Good rigger choice Steve & Judy
@DaveJohnEllis
Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, great to watch someone like Jade who is obviously a real expert and so understated.
@PaulBKal
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve for this very thorough and practical look at rigging and re-rigging. Amazing how every time anyone looks at the good gear, Selden is always right up there!
@billhanna8838
Жыл бұрын
The great thing with the open bearings is washing them out every now & then with warm soapy water , Good vid thanks .
@andrewbrown2063
2 ай бұрын
Thanks Steve, really clear and useful. One small point - you and others mentioned dyneema - one should remember the inverted thermodynamic properties in that dyneema elongates when cold and shines when hot - so one must have the opposing stay or shroud made of the same material - furler with steel forestay needs a steel backstay; damage a steel shroud and change to dyneema in an emergency - change on both sides and any opposing stay - ie baby stay and check stays. Cheers
@svfairisle
2 ай бұрын
Yes I talked about exactly that in an interview with Herby (Rigging Doctor) a couple of years ago. As you say keeping opposing supports in the same material is vital.
@nicovanrensburg3186
Жыл бұрын
“Remember, it is a boat and not everything is straight forward” - now that is an understatement!😂
@Viendopiedra5029
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the detailed videos on the re-rig! 😄
@RappinIggyG
Жыл бұрын
Great video. I’d love to have a Part 3 for sure. And not just for the intro music either! Cheers.
@curtishyde1842
8 ай бұрын
Very good content in both these videos part 1 and part 2 very informational thank you very much appreciate it please do follow through with the final tuning I'm sure there's a lot of people out there that would enjoy it
@svfairisle
8 ай бұрын
There’s a rough and ready tune in the latest video, done by me, I’ll try and film one with an expert rigger at some point
@paulpaul9914
Жыл бұрын
People have used laser tape measure devices to measure up for rigging lengths. It might be possible to use a laser tape measure to check furler forestay tension. The change in total forestay straight line length to get the sag to a ballpark value would be less than 1mm. The total forestay straight line length change to set 15% of breaking strain tension would be about 15 mm to get a forestay sag of around 70 mm so it seems to me that it might be possible to get a fairly accurate number for the headstay tension with a furler fitted using a laser measurer version of the Selden 2 metre rule method. Edit - Looks like we don't need a laser thing. Can just measure the length change at the tensioning device. I'm going to look at the numbers related to sag / catenary induced tension etc first to see how accurate the method would be but it does look like it might be enough to determine a good wire tension number. The effect of sag change on tensioning length change change should be relatively small & if friction in the tightening device screw were to be reduced considerably with lubricant then it might be possible to also use a torque wrench approach to measuring tension in the forestay. Using a combination might help with improving accuracy so some oil, a spring balance to check force applied to the adjustable spanners & measuring bottle screw length change might do the trick. I've just got to work out the expected adjustable spanner torque numbers for the low friction & unlubricated conditions. So the numbers might look like 7 NM to 40 NM - from minimum to 15% tension. Could use a torque wrench with a crows foot spanner with length change max 40mm & the real numbers if recorded would be very repeatable as the tension increase is gradual & linear.
@johncliffe8801
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a very informative and enjoyable video, Steve. I learn something every time I watch you and Judy and especially from the tech video's. Based on your feedback and Jade's obvious skill and professionalism, I've been talking with him to replace my standing rigging. You can't beat informed, word of mouth (and in this case, visual) recommendations. Thanks again for sharing these video's with us.
@svfairisle
Жыл бұрын
Jade is a top man, you’re in good hands
@svestancia
Жыл бұрын
Great. Ideo.. It’s worth mentioning that he put thread locker on the Sta-Lok before pre assembly in order to lubricate the threads and avoid the stainless terminal from jamming.. which is a common thing on really large diameter wires..
@stephenrobinson1007
Жыл бұрын
Once again an excellent all points covered pair of articles. Mostly common sense but great to get those nuggets from jade. I’m always amazed when doing a pre delivery rig check how many split pins are upside down, wearing due to the Clovis pins too small or poorly toggled or just plain missing. Excellent training vid for sta-lock fittings too boot. Bring on dynamic tuning and keep up the intro music 👏👏
@majom1980
3 ай бұрын
nice Lada Niva
@francismoore4976
Жыл бұрын
Hello, A great rig is not a luxury but it is often overlook......great work!
@davidllewelyn
8 ай бұрын
Started watching your channel and love the mix of topics. In particular the technical corner with its tips and walk though of the process. All in all very informative and well made videos. Only feedback is that’s it’s not always easy to find the right sequence of videos (ie sails before the rigging videos). It’s a shame KZitem isn’t better at grouping and managing content eg having categories or folder.
@svfairisle
8 ай бұрын
Glad you like the videos. There are ‘playlists’ on our YT channel where tech videos - episodes - product reviews etc are grouped together. I should probably go through and make some sub groups now like electronics - rigging etc, but it may help find things a bit
@davidllewelyn
8 ай бұрын
@@svfairislethank you, learn something new everyday! Sorry, but I haven’t caught up yet. Have you started your Atlantic crossing or are you waiting in the Canneries? Also, have you done a video on your planned circumnavigation route? Appreciate it may change, but interest in the route from Panama across the Pacific, where you will sit out the Hurricane/ Cyclone seasons and whether you are planning to coming up through Suez or down around Cape of Good Hope?
@svfairisle
8 ай бұрын
@@davidllewelyn We are currently anchored in the South of Gran Canaria having sailed down today. If the wind is good tomorrow which it should be we will head off to The Gambia which will take around a week, maybe 8 days. From there it’s the Cape Verds and the Southern Caribbean where we will stay for the hurricanes season then head up the next year and see how for up the US eastern seaboard we can get in the summer. Then the Bahamas & after that not sure!
@davidllewelyn
8 ай бұрын
@@svfairisle then I wish you fair winds and look forward to your future videos.
@smulismuli7976
Жыл бұрын
Great video with good nuggets of info!
@OddLifeCrafting
Жыл бұрын
Really good video!! Really informative!!😊
@IWANVOLLEBREGT
Жыл бұрын
love your tech vids they are the best, obviously great rigger helps, thanks!
@eliinthewolverinestate6729
Жыл бұрын
I plan on using dyneema with dead eyes, but its good to know how it should look just in case. I have to step the mast to go out the Erie canal.
@miketcq8
Жыл бұрын
A great Video Steve. Thanks for sharing. It sounds like you got a great deal..
@LightSound369
Жыл бұрын
Very informative, well done mate great video.🇦🇺
@mskogly
2 ай бұрын
It looked like one of the standing rig wires was rubbing the security line wire.
@svfairisle
2 ай бұрын
Yes it happens in a couple of places, I have the lifeline sleeved in those spots
@locksnkeys
Жыл бұрын
Will never do this but a very informative video thanks
@thepigwillfly5869
Жыл бұрын
Great technical info.
@skipper72
Жыл бұрын
Very valuable knowledge , thank you 👍
@GoneSailingCA
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve, very useful piece
@billyrusk5645
Жыл бұрын
Great video I learned a lot. Thanhs !!!
@Sta-Lok
Жыл бұрын
Great video Steve!
@cbpaton53
Жыл бұрын
... very useful info, thanks :)
@davidyendoll5903
Жыл бұрын
Quality information
@gregvaughn4286
Жыл бұрын
Great information and technic thanks
@BoatDawg
Жыл бұрын
Love the tech videos. Thanks!
@colelockhart3349
6 ай бұрын
In the up and coming video id like to know your thoughts on synthetic rigging . Pros.and cons thanks
@svfairisle
6 ай бұрын
There are some big advantages to going synthetic, weight aloft being the big one. It’s also stronger and easier to see if there’s and damage happening ( the dyneema will go fuzzy if it’s chafing) It would have required a lot of thought with termination’s though and you do have the downside of thermal expansion/ contraction with temperature so you have to devise a was to easily tension you rig. The reason we didn’t go for it though is we have furling headsails. Going synthetic would mean going slab reefed and that’s just too much work to sail.
@surfingjim8321
Жыл бұрын
Thanks. For once I could actually follow a rigging presentation,
@billygrahamyachtsinc753
Жыл бұрын
S & J, on your sailmaker choice, I have inquired with Precision Sails about junk sails for my 60 ft schooner SV Spice of Life. They have replied never made any, but I will follow up with them when required. Thanks
@svfairisle
Жыл бұрын
Yes I can see the problem with a junk rigged boat, the system they have come up with relies on you filling out their on line form with all the relevant measurements, they would need to come up with a form for a gaff rigged boat. But they are very accommodating & nice guys so if you hit them at a time when they’re not snowed under I sure they would rise to the challenge!
@billygrahamyachtsinc753
Жыл бұрын
@@svfairisle Steve, a gaff is very different than a junk, but I get your reference. I am moored across the strait about 25 miles from Precision's loft, so I could bring my current junk sails to them. Thanks for your input. Bye the way, as a yacht broker, I wonder if you and Judy realize that all of your maintenance and upgrade videos, are actually an online pre-purchase survey documentary for the next buyer, when you decide to sell Fair Isle. It will be an easy sale, because the demand will be huge, especially the prestige of owning the former vessel of the famous documentary film makers, Judy and Steve.
@J0EYbagaDONUTS
Жыл бұрын
Great job . The new rigging should last you the rest of your cruising life .
@svfairisle
Жыл бұрын
I hope not… we plan to be going until we’re at least 80!
@aaronw.markel9319
Жыл бұрын
What’s better, wire rigging or I’ve seen like straight steel rigging
@svfairisle
Жыл бұрын
Rod rigging is an option, not really one that you would want on a cruising boat as it's an unnecessary expense for no real gain. Dyneema would be a better option in many ways, for the shrouds at least. We want roller furling so can't use it for the stays.
@graham2342
Жыл бұрын
Great video. Where in Montenegro, did you get this done?
@svfairisle
Жыл бұрын
Porto Montenegro (great marina)
@johnhewett2525
Жыл бұрын
Hi Steve. I'm a little bit lost as to whether the mast rake incorporates the mast bend or is it induced after setting the rake?
@svfairisle
Жыл бұрын
Always rake first then bend. Confusing I know as it’s often called prebend! Basically you are lengthening the forestay to get rake before everything in tightened up. Fair Isle is just about 1 degree a morn modern rig, fractional or with swept back spreaders might have much more. But really you want as much rake as gives you the right amount of weather helm ie enough to turn you slowly up wind in 10 knows of breeze or give a small pull on the gusts. You will have a couple of degrees of rudder loading if this is correct. Then introducing some bend will help the shape of the sail. Again generally rigs with swept back spreaders tend to have more, but it’s all about how the sail is cut ( what the sailmaker was expecting ) so as Jade said, just go sailing and look. More mast bend flattens the sail and de-powers it, a straighter mast gives shape & power. If you start getting diagonal wrinkles from clew to luff you’ve got too much bend.
@geniexmay562
Жыл бұрын
When will you do a chain plate inspection??
@svfairisle
Жыл бұрын
When there's any sign of deterioration. The chain plates go through the deck, which I dont like I prefer when they are on the outside of the hull. So the place where they will suffer will be as they pass through the deck. To be 100% sure you would pull the plates, but I have clear sight of them as the come through the deck on the inside and there is not, and has never been, any sign of water/rust staining. I've also pulled the bolts which were all pristine. So the chances of any of the plates having a problem are pretty much zero so I'm happy to leave them be for now.
@josealejandroregojozapata2403
Жыл бұрын
His Steve: Very nice technicall video as allways. Please, Could you give us some detail information about this extension piece? I look for it in the Sta lock site but what I find is not exactly what you have in your hand. The part number reference will be ok. Thanks very much again.
@Sta-Lok
Жыл бұрын
Hi - It is our Sta-Lok Self-Fit Long Stud (Product Code 076)
@svfairisle
Жыл бұрын
They call it a 'long stud' the number on the packet is 076-08-5/8
@josealejandroregojozapata2403
Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much, Steve
@travisweaver1805
8 ай бұрын
so how do you tension the forestay with that big furling system on it?
@svfairisle
8 ай бұрын
That’s kind of the point with why it’s not such a big deal to not be using a gauge on the stays, you can’t use one on a forestay with a furler and you can’t on our back stay either with our stainless steel extrusion for the radar. A good rigger like Jade who came to Montenegro for our re-rig in the winter can tension by feel at the dock and get things pretty close but you’re only going to get things properly tuned in by sailing and seeing how much sag you’re getting on the foil and how well or badly you’re pointing. You can play with tensions and as long as the rake and prebend remain correct you’re looking for the tension that helps you point the highest.
@travisweaver1805
8 ай бұрын
@@svfairisle I guess I was asking more of a specific/technical question...if you can't access the forestay to tension it, how do you get forestay sag out? Do you just tension the backstay till there's too much pre-bend then tighten the diamonds to take the bend out -which would in turn tighten the forestay? How are you getting proper tension on the forestay without putting too much backstay tension on, but also keeping your backstay from sagging too much? Right like I can foresee a problem where you're trying to tension your forestay by tensioning your backstay, but to get enough tension on the forestay you have to way overt tighten the backstay which will mess up your mast pre-bend ...
@svfairisle
8 ай бұрын
@@travisweaver1805 You're over thinking it a bit I think. Remember that you cant have a stay over tensioned with the opposite stay not also overtensioned, same deal with the shrouds. If you tension a shroud to a certain level then to opposing shroud will be the same tension if the mast is in column. Newtons first law of motion will tell you that, it the forces were not matched then there would be motion until they did. Same deal with the stays except the angles probable wont match like the stays do, so the shallower angle has more tension to keep things in check. So yes you're looking for the right amount of forestay tension to not allow too much sag, if you get this right along with the correct amount of rake then your good, the backstay tension will be fine. You are talking about mast pre-bend which is a different thing again and dependent on how the mast is held by everything else, for us being a cutter thats mainly the inner forestay for the staysail. Don't get confused between pre-bend and rake!
@brianholmes3451
9 ай бұрын
What is the forestay adjuster? I don’t see them on the sta lock web site.
@svfairisle
9 ай бұрын
The whole forestay system is Selden (Furlex) they just happen to use STALOK terminations as well
@brianholmes3451
9 ай бұрын
@@svfairisle thank you! Rigging 101 part 1 and part 2 were excellent. Thank you for doing them.
@sailorman607
Жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great technical video, Steve. I’ve used Norseman and Sta-Lok terminals on all my boats. One of the debates about these fittings over the years has been whether to add sealants to the fittings to prevent water intrusion. Nigel Calder, Brion Toss, and Patrick Childress all recommend adding a sealant. If my memory is correct, the manufacturers of Norseman and Sta-Lok fittings used to recommend sealants, but they recently seem to have reversed themselves and no longer include mentions of sealants in their manuals. Your rigger seems to fall into this camp. I generally strictly adhere to the recommendations of reputable manufacturers, but the thought of bucking the advice both Calder and Toss causes me considerable consternation. Where do you come down on this?
@sailorman607
Жыл бұрын
OOOPS!!! I added this comment before watching the whole video. You and your rigger do address this at the end. Your rigger’s arguments and credentials are persuasive; I still find it difficult to contravene the advice of Calder and Toss, however…..
@svfairisle
Жыл бұрын
Jade has done lots of research on this and had long consultations with Sta-loc the upshot is they agree that no sealant is best. I might not contradict Nigel on electrical matters but on this I certainly would.
@philipfreeman72
5 ай бұрын
Recomend dynema rigging ?
@svfairisle
5 ай бұрын
Love the idea of dyneema rigging but we have roller furling foresails that can’t be mounted on dyneema, going slab reefed would be too much for us
@factanonverba6169
Жыл бұрын
Thanks, so much good information.
@billygrahamyachtsinc753
Жыл бұрын
Jade, is such a man of few words, but each one means something. Soooooo! Professional. "Silence is golden" I live my life on the premise, that " when all is said, there is more said than done". In today's society, people yap, yap, yap. Just a lot of unnecessary noise pollution. Good rigger choice Steve & Judy
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