Also anyone else notice how these elf’s struggle to walk in this blizzard, almost dying. While Legolas, being a proper ethereal being, is able to not only easily walk in his own mountain pass blizzard but walk on top of the snow! Did these guys even watch the first movies in their research….at a minimum?
@cy-one
Жыл бұрын
Lol, imagine believing the creators of ROP put any effort into the show that wasn't self indulging :D
@Truffle_Pup
Жыл бұрын
@@cy-one I imagine they had brainstorming sessions til 6.30pm every day, then had cake and balloons til 7.15, then everyone high fived and went home with a big smile on their faces, turning up the next day at around ...10ish? Maybe? and then talked about the latest Netflix til lunch. then Got right back to brainstorming again, with a few half hour meme breaks. That's the impression I get at least.
@stefannydvorak7919
Жыл бұрын
The watched it and decided to make something better, more representative of modern audiences. Isn’t your mind blown by this subversion of expectation?!?!??
@cy-one
Жыл бұрын
@@stefannydvorak7919 ... represent the world we live in today... :D
@Truffle_Pup
Жыл бұрын
@@stefannydvorak7919 A story that was purposefully written with intent to be a representation of old Gaelic/Celtic mythology, being remade to be more representative of a modern diverse audience. Is that what you meant?
@voltron5128
Жыл бұрын
I don't know why I get a kick out of watching Rings of Power reviews....it's so bad I just can't believe it. Anywho these break downs are the best I've seen on YT....it really does the trick for me
@chinchilla415
Жыл бұрын
The sea is always right!
@jacob9538
Жыл бұрын
the reviews of RoP deserve way more views than the actual show.
@admina.r.9727
Жыл бұрын
Schadenfreude
@JeffreyAllanBackowski
Жыл бұрын
I like to watch negative reviews of shows I never plan on watching.
@-MrFozzy-
Жыл бұрын
I love watching in depth breakdowns…positive or negative….hopefully just impartial…with occasional dunking and humour
@HateshWarkio
2 жыл бұрын
The fact that the Rings of Power don't even really explain that the Trees of Valinor are the only real light source because they and the elves predate the Sun in this world (technically the Sun was created from the last remnants of those Trees), is astonishing btw The light of the Trees appears in LOTR, it's in the vial with which Frodo and Sam defend themselves against Shelob which is even more interesting because Shelob's ancestor destroyed the Trees
@DaDunge
Жыл бұрын
They should have had Galadriel remind Elrond of these facts.
@vulpinedeity3379
Жыл бұрын
The moon from one, the sun from the other. The Silmarils were made from their light too, and the trees could've been restored if Feanor had allowed them to be broken.
@jeremymott
Жыл бұрын
It actually ticked me off that they didn't
@limlaith
Жыл бұрын
I love you for this comment. Just thought you should know. ❤💕💘
@sarahgould5435
Жыл бұрын
Well...sort of. One or two vessels removed from the actual trees, and the trees themselves are never mentioned in LOTR, only the Silmaril bearer Earendil, who also has two non-Tree-sourced lamps on either end of his ship, if memory serves. Since the phial is from the light of the star that also has those two lamps, it is, at least, probably not unmixed light of the Trees. They might honestly have been pushing their rights by bringing up the Trees at all.
@faceitgm
Жыл бұрын
I appreciate how you are evaluating the show on its own merits rather than how it accurate it is to canon. Not that I dislike comparing it to the books, but I've already seen enough content to know that this diverges almost entirely from the original lore
@johnord684
Жыл бұрын
What merits lol.
@paulgibbon5991
7 ай бұрын
@@johnord684 An adaptation can be a poor adaptation but still good in its own right. "The Shining" probably being the quintessential example.
@brentpnw9091
6 ай бұрын
I agree. This is the way. Even a show that strays from the lore can be entertaining if the writing is solid. This show is somehow able to be unfaithful to the lore, contrived, nonsensical, and boring all at the same time. It’s impressive, really.
@veracyning5572
Жыл бұрын
"2 pairings between elves and men ended in death" Well... yeah, kinda? They also ended in Elrond, Elros, the defeat of Morgoth, and the founding of the line of Elendil. Beren and Luthien were also reborn, and Earendil became a star soooo... actually, no, what's their point? Nobody was killed for that reason. Sigh. Also they forgot Idril and Tuor, so there's been 3.
@lolloblue9646
Жыл бұрын
You expect the writers to give half a damn?
@_Feanor_.
8 ай бұрын
There has been 3, but Arwen and Aragorn hasn't happened, so technically it has been at this point in the timeline. Although I hate having to point out that this show got something right. No matter. The show immediately fumbles on the second line about those pairings ending in death. Sure, Beren and Luthien died, twice. But Idril was elven and Tuor was said to have been given immortality. If that is true they should be alive in Valinor. But it is not confirmed if they did or not. It's also not that profund of a statement. Guess what, humans are not immortal and die. So the elf in the relationship would at some point lose their partner and there would be death. And the elf would continue living unless they were slain. It's not like if an elf enters into a romance with a human they lose their immortality or can chose to do so. Arwen only could do so because she was part human to begin with. Elrond chose an immortal live, but his children can chose not to like his brother Elros did. Although seemingly his children did not get a choice. Already hated when Jackson did this in the Hobbit with a dwarf/elf romance. Something like that was clearly meant to be incredibly rare and special and wasn't supposed to happen in every movie/show.
@flumbofrommelkont6863
Жыл бұрын
Damn this Nori character looks interesting. I wish we'd find out some things about her. Like she could be brave, curious, clumsy, and doesn't follow the rules, for example. Oh well, shame we didn't have a scene establishing that in this episode.
@beannathrach2417
Жыл бұрын
I don't know if it's made clear, but Elrond is Galadriel's son in law. He is also a son of one of Middle-Earth's power couple from a family of power couples. His ancestors include Men, Elves, and Maia. Two of his ancestors did a successful Orpheus and Eurydice.
@olthac
Жыл бұрын
And his brother is the one who began the lineage that would lead to Aragorn.
@xurmisalwaysright2460
Жыл бұрын
Also, She was one of the Noldor that, alter the first kinslaying and the curse of manwé, not repended and when onwith her uncle Feanor, while her own dad returned to the Valar and got pardoned. So Gil-Ghalad could sent her west, she could'nt enter the west cause of manwé's curse... It is only after "she past the test" in LOTR, she is forgiven and could go west.
@2for3Hottacos
Жыл бұрын
Galadriel was pardoned after the death of morgoth
@icewaterchrist
8 ай бұрын
Morgoth never died.@@2for3Hottacos
@yaboye3791
5 ай бұрын
@@olthac The fact that Aragorn married his cousin is peak euro behaviour 💀
@ericsbuds
Жыл бұрын
Tolkien's writing is another level. Its beautiful. If you ever find yourself becoming interested in reading, you're gonna really enjoy those books.
@nuuuuuuuut
3 ай бұрын
Some people cannot create mental images and for them reading by and large isn't very enjoyable
@sevynwarr
11 ай бұрын
The thing that gets me about the interactions between Galadriel and Elrond is that Galadriel is Elrond’s mother in law and has been for centuries at this time in the timeline. Also Galadriel CANNOT return to Valinor, because she has been banished. She is only forgiven and allowed back when she resists taking the ring from Frodo when he offers it to her.
@OmoyeUduehi-c5g
9 ай бұрын
Exactly!!!!! OMG! You made exactly the point that struck me. It is SO weird and stupid.
@TomBombadil676
9 ай бұрын
the guy litteraly states, in the first min, that he does not care about accuracy and adaptation tho.
@jimmydasani8922
8 ай бұрын
@@TomBombadil676 the point here is that the writers of the series clearly dont know or dont care about the lore to lotr universe
@TomBombadil676
8 ай бұрын
yeah but so does he ; how can he complain about it mere seconds after claiming it doesnt matter??? @@jimmydasani8922
@_Feanor_.
8 ай бұрын
"She is only forgiven and allowed back when she resists taking the ring from Frodo when he offers it to her." Which this series ruins by the way. And I mean not the fact that they try to send her to Valinor at a point where she wasn't yet allowed to return. It cheapens that moment where she resists in Lotr, because Sauron already tempted her in this series and she already resisted. Combined with the fact that chronologically she uses some of the wording that Sauron used on her on Frodo "fair as the sun and the sea" and "stronger than the foundations of the earth". I understand that the writers only wanted to lift some member berries from Lotr, like the Gandalf "follow your nose thing" (even though he knows he has to go east already), but I'm still amazed they didn't think beyond this. This series takes place before Lotr and is basically a prequel. Making using these lines really awkward.
@shadowdemon2272
Жыл бұрын
"Galadriel's" story would have been so much better if they would have added a scene where Gil Galad confesses that her title as Commander of the Norhtern Armies was given to her as a nominal title to placate her, not because she was considered worthy or competent. Explains his frustration with her, the troop's frustration with her, brings her down off of her pedestal a bit, and gives her actual motivation to push back and prove herself. I'll take my millions now please Amazon.
@emhullum4120
Жыл бұрын
Or...just don't fucking ruin the character at all. i have never seen such a thorough character assassination. Even Luke Skywalker wasn't as bad as what they did to Galadriel
@Ash-lp1fl
Жыл бұрын
But that would go against MA GURLPOWER! REEEEEEE!!
@JeffreyAllanBackowski
Жыл бұрын
Galadriel should've did a topless scene.
@christopherulbrich2014
Жыл бұрын
@@emhullum4120 well Luke was worse. I mean Luke believed in the good in Vader even though Vader killed his mentor (and his aunt and uncle indirectly), tortured his friends and cut of his hand. Yet TLJ wants to tell us he would try to kill a child in his sleep because he might become evil? Oh and after that he decides to go into hiding because he is a pathetic looser who can't live with his failure and wants to die. Galadriel became this stupid female mary sue protagonist without personality.
@LadyDoomsinger
Жыл бұрын
@@Ash-lp1flNot really, though - as many modern writers are quick to forget; Female empowerment stories traditionally focus on a character who starts out oppressed, undermined, or disregarded, who then through their own virtue and will manage to overcome this adversity, prove themselves capable either to themselves or their society, or both, and somehow have whomever dismissed them at the start "learn their lesson" about underestimating a person based on their gender (or other traits) - or, in the case of an antagonist, get their "comeuppance" at the end. This is a story model as ancient as the "Hero's Journey", relying on the "underdog" motif to appeal not only to women, but to any person in the world who has ever felt powerless and/or excluded from the "in group". Yet for some reason, modern writers seem to believe that skipping straight to the "powerful" part of the fantasy, without the "overcoming adversity" part does the job just as well - when in reality it only makes the character LESS sympathetic, since now it's not a story about an underdog proving they can stand up to oppression, but a story of the bully doing the oppressing of others.
@derekbryan28
Жыл бұрын
Just dawned on me the "general of the northern armies" is leading 8 elves and needs to go thru a half elf non lord who doesn't get invited to council meetings to set up a meeting with the king? Is the "northern armies" 8 elves? What exactly is the chain of command like there? And loved your review. The youtube critics are proving that bezo's investment has ironically found a way to be entertaining. lol
@DaDunge
Жыл бұрын
Maybe the're the only ones left?
@grandarkfang_1482
Жыл бұрын
@@DaDunge what a great commander.
@DaDunge
Жыл бұрын
@@grandarkfang_1482 No but that was never the point either. Galadriel is clearly meant as a Byronic hero or even antihero. As someone who stared so long into the abyss that it has started staring back into her.
@RoninDave
Жыл бұрын
@@DaDunge did they all die or desert? By the sound of it no one had seen orcs in a long time so who would they have been fighting except boredom and Galadriel's terrible leadership?
@Loll0saurus
Жыл бұрын
Just dawned on me that the whole title is probably there just to make you think of Maximus and how cool he is.
@adamheywood113
Жыл бұрын
Watching people's analysis of this snoozefest has been way more entertaining than the snoozefest itself. Thank you for your sacrifice.
@outrider44
Жыл бұрын
In all of Tolkien's romances between Elves and men, the parties in question meet and fall in love as adults. You never have the situation where the elf is watching the parents and possibly grandparents grow up, fall in love, and then watch their future love interest grow up. Arondir is creepy...
@RationalOrc
Жыл бұрын
I love the idea of someone using their plate metal boot to climb a mountain. Let's just ignore the amount of strength required to climb mountains in full armor and consider how absolutely nightmarishly freezing the metal would feel against your body.
@ethanwatschke6470
Жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who was perplexed by the water in Galadriel's waterskin not freezing when the stronghold is cold enough to keep the flames from emitting heat? Their physics just switch over the course of like two minutes
@ferrishthefish
Жыл бұрын
I'm willing to bet they wanted the evil castle to be 'bone-chilling' but lacked the ability to convey it properly. So instead of dialogue that makes any sense ("The very air is frozen." "Nay, tis a fell air that chills deeper than any cold"), the writers thought the best way to convey 'bone-chilling' was to say the place was cold without using typical cold-sounding words ("Hand is passed feeling." "No, this place is so evil our torches give off no warmth."). Like you can see the hamster wheels turning to avoid saying "cold."
@chrisv384
Жыл бұрын
food and especially water is always magic in all fantasy worlds. Huge logistic problems you might say..
@razmossis
Жыл бұрын
I was like you on the book topic. Until I started a few months ago. The Hobbit, LOTR, and now Silmarillion. Bro, do it. It becomes extremely entertaining, and the added depth of lore is several levels more incredible than was possible to depict in the movies. The weight of Aragon’s story is so much more impactful in the movie after reading the books. Watching the movie after reading the books, makes the movie better. (Not for The Hobbit though lol - except for the scenes that were actually in the book, which turned out great; and for that reason).
@Lovemy1911a1
Жыл бұрын
That's awesome man. Glad you got into the books and enjoyed them so much. I think they are some of of not the best fiction I've ever read.
@Guilherme-ow3wb
Жыл бұрын
Same here. Never read the books before (Tom Bombadil always caught me) but after being utterly distraught at how bad the show was, I rewatched the movie trilogy and then tried the boosk again and now I'm reading them like crazy, they are that good - though the initial parts can be very slow, but once they arrive at the inn is smooth sail. I love how the Council of Elrond is much more detailed. Wished the movies had given it more time. In the movies Pippin and Merry just joined as comedy and is all accepted without question. In the books Elrond doesn't wish for them to go and they go through many possible candidates to join the Fellowship, and a lot of reasons why they shouldn't too, then Merry and Pippin are accepted as Gandalf suggests it would be better to accept them for their true friendship to Frodo, the Ringbearer, and that could prove more vital than having more warriors considering their quest.
@rangerstedfast
Жыл бұрын
Seconded
@NoxAtlas
Жыл бұрын
Same, I'm not a very passionate reader but after watching how Tolkien fans debunked and destroyed Rings of Power and provided more backstory, I got more interested in the lore. I'm gonna start reading all of Tolkien's works, but instead of starting with LOTR, I'll read the books in chronological order (meaning I'm gonna start with the Silmarillion and LOTR will basically be the end). I thought it makes more sense to start with the very beginning of the world. It also makes it easier to understand the references Tolkien loves to make to his other works
@charleskinsey6528
2 ай бұрын
@@NoxAtlas How did it go? I read LoTR and the Simarillion years before the movies came out, and I would be interested in impressions from someone doing the reverse.
@TheMadmatt7
Жыл бұрын
So happy I stumbled across your episodic reviews. Thorough, entertaining, pithy, laugh out loud funny, not too long, not too short. And I don't have to endure the utter misery of watching ROP. My hat's off to you, mate!
@GilesMcRiker
2 жыл бұрын
You prresent a compelling objective analysis us that is meticulously backed up by supporting facts and logic, however because your conclusions do not sufficiently accord with those promoted by Amazon, I must nonetheless reject them as flawed, incorrect and clearly motivated by a toxic, racist and misogynist agenda
@creatrixZBD
Жыл бұрын
Lol you almost had me there :)
@matwatson7947
Жыл бұрын
Damn right. That's why I sadly can't agree with him either
@faceitgm
Жыл бұрын
Chefs kiss for this comment
@EchoBre
Жыл бұрын
😮😮😮
@TheCrazyHedgehogLady
Жыл бұрын
You win the internet with that comment! 😆
@poissonsumac7922
Жыл бұрын
Pull the lever Kronk! +Rings of Power falls into the abyss+ RIGHT LEVER!!
@Frimbertrips
Жыл бұрын
Wait... wai'wai'wai'wai'waaaaaiiiiit.... They... were on this quest to find Mr. Evil Mc'Dude for how long? Centuries. Plural. I always love that kinda thing; when a story just throws a big number on something and says 'it's fine' like adding time to an endeavor automatically makes it more meaningful. There's a point when it goes from making characters look dedicated to making them look unintelligent. For someone to give up on something they've been doing for two-hundred+ years is not so simple as a spat in the cold. By this point this team has been through absolutely everything the world has to offer. They should be unbreakable, unshakeable and loyal to an absolute fault and putting an end to that relationship in such an anticlimactic way not only does the whole thing injustice, but implies elves are stupid. Just. Straight stupid. Smooth brain. Go home. Bad Elves. Normal real world people have made more strides in similar settings with similar objectives in less than half the time. Why can't a team or super smart immortals do it given four times longer. It just sucks all the believably right out of the setup. Their own ineptitude is a plot hole. @_@; (If I am understanding this right)
@robloxplayer0003
Жыл бұрын
The absolute funniest thing about the bullying scene is that it takes place in VALINOR. That would be like there being a mob in heaven or something similar. It just fundamentally makes no sense.
@jrfour2408
Жыл бұрын
I think what annoys me most is that rather than trying to craft a good story, they just threw a half baked pile of 'trying to be game of thrones' at a wall and called it a day. What a waste.
@tomatosoup1304
11 ай бұрын
The most unrealistic part of this series is how Galadriel is treated. She’s a powerful being and older than most people, half the characters that tell her off are much younger than her and would never even think to say something to her
@shamrockdragon7634
Жыл бұрын
Great video! Definitely going to watch the next episodes. One thing, Galadriel doesn't show compassion for the soldier who falls down until after her lieutenant calls her out. He wanted to stop immediately when the soldier falls, and Galadriel insists on continuing, only stopping and going to the downed soldier when no one else listens to her.
@randomft
Жыл бұрын
This is true, although when she was saying "no we must keep moving" she was unaware that the guy had fallen over. If we are being overly generous, what we are shown is that she didn't notice, rather than that she saw but did not care.
@shamrockdragon7634
Жыл бұрын
@@randomft so we can add to the list that she is unaware of the state of her soldiers, despite being their commander and therefore should be keeping an eye on all of them to make sure they stay together in a snow storm were visibility is limited.
@lolloblue9646
Жыл бұрын
Girlbosses™ can't be bothered with such minor things as people under their wing
@wrayday7149
Жыл бұрын
The funny thing about the boat scene is the ship didn't turn around.... it's not like they didn't notice her doing it or missing afterwards. Then again, maybe they just knew she would float because she is such a witch.
@CptAvenger
Жыл бұрын
Galadriel's fighting skill is reminiscence of Steven Seagal's in that they NEVER lose a fight or have any trouble with defeating their opponents regardless of the situation. Both characters are cringeworthy!
@thibaultl1956
5 ай бұрын
A humble beginning for a really nice channel.
@Br4dSp34d
Жыл бұрын
First time here and clicked because I love a good Rings of Power analysis video. The Emperors New Groove is my favorite Disney film so this has been beyond a pleasure to watch. Liked and subscribed
@PrometheanRising
Жыл бұрын
I know you aren't doing lore, but I somehow failed to notice how ridiculous Galadriel's claim that Elrond doesn't know evil like she knows evil is.
@troffle
Жыл бұрын
I am playing this series again for my housemate to hear. Because she's not willing to watch the show, the same way she's not willing to watch anything after season 2 of "not-Star Trek: Discovery". She heard the phrase "for Elves who are supposed to be the oldest, wisest and fairest of all races, one would assume that the wisest of all races would be somewhat unlikely to produce children who bully each other" and instantly said "J.J. Abrams's Vulcans bullying Spock" and suddenly something in my gut just hurt.
@Zajin13
Жыл бұрын
What Finrod said doesn’t even make sense if we take into account that he could be killed because at that time „death“ is for elves just rather „annoying“ because they simply respawn in Valinor and, if the Valar allow it, they can even return to Middle Earth
@Zajin13
10 ай бұрын
@@NeoVandole yeah, like i said, their souls return to Valinor, which the halls of Mandos are a part of. And technically they can return from there back to Middle Earth if the Valar deem it necessary or how do you explain Glorfindel going after the Ring Wraiths like a boogeyman when he died in the First Age during a battle with several Balrog?
@KennethKnox
6 ай бұрын
Big ups to this show for introducing me to this channel. Easily the most comprehensive breakdowns available.
@MWcrazyhorse
Жыл бұрын
In reality in Tolkien's lore Galadriel was not allowed to go to the undying lands, because she had a prideful heart. Fitting.
@lets_dig_a_little_deeper
12 күн бұрын
I can't believe it's been two years since he started covering rings of power. I absolutely love his videos, is in-depth review analysis, his ability to break down by certain things cannot happen or should not happen is on the level that I have never seen before. This guy is a God at movie/show reviews and analysis
@Guilherme-ow3wb
Жыл бұрын
About the barn scene, the bad writing is even more evident. Arondil and Brownyn seem to try to hide their romance, yet seems everyone knows anyways. But the worst part is the first boy talking about Theo's father and her mother with the elf. Breaking into someone's place to steal, that sure is the best of times to bring the subject up, uh? It definitely wasn't to make sure to the audience that Theo is only raised by his mother and dad ran away. Then let's go back to the cow part. It's so convenient the cow appears exactly there. Everyone is so passive and reactive to stuff happening. If the cow isn't there at that exact moment Arondir leaves town and this whole arc would never happen.... Not to mention Arondir immediately sees it as the action of evil and not just an animal getting sick, you know, as they do very often... This should've been rewritten as Arondir wanting to investigate the already mentioned poisoned grass before leaving and calling Brownyn to help - as it had been already established she was good with plants and herbs and stuff, so there would be a legit reason for her to go with him, on top of being alone with him... also shows Arondir as humble in coming to ask for help to a human. Then the part they go together, as it is, Brownyn has no reason to go, and Arondir even says it'll take 1-2 days to go to the next village. So they just walk for 1-2 days, without carrying food, on foot and sleeping on open sky? Then next ep Brownyn goes back, takes another 1-2 days, again without supplies, sleeping on the open, but now knowing there might be danger nearby - and she goes back alone as Arondir goes down a hole by himself when he had a whole regiment of elves with him in the town... Let's not even mention that Brownyn didn't even talk about leaving to her son, he just happened to of course, conveniently eavesdrop. Otherwise imagine him wondering where is his mother, and how he took care of himself... Horrible, horrible scenes.
@TVeldhorst
Жыл бұрын
And they do nothing about the poor cow...
@TristouMTL
2 жыл бұрын
Wow, thank you for this! It's perfect -- you are so sarcastic and funny and 100% accurate and observant. So much fun to watch! Keep it up, this is just wonderful!
@normalgraham
11 ай бұрын
So the basic problem with this series, as far as I can tell, is that its characters are written as though they came from our world. All their politics are reflective of our own, all their behaviors and thoughts parallel our own. The thing about setting your work in the past or in another world is that, unless you have a firm grasp of history and culture, you have no idea how to properly distance yourself from the modern world. These characters bitch and moan at each other like modern people, ignoring that for many historical cultures (and those present in Tolkien's own work) respect and articulate diplomacy were the dominant form of social currency. Simply being "right" all the time doesn't make a compelling character. If you read the Lord of the Rings, part of what made Frodo such a great character was how he'd wow people with his courtesy, not his "zingers." He was a fundamentally decent guy, but unlike in the movies he also wasn't naive. He knew immediately that Gollum was attempting to manipulate him and didn't fall for it for a second. That's how you write a Tolkien hero. They're savvy but with good hearts, and they're informed by tradition as much as individality. Notice how the Mary Sue hobbit in this show is brave and curious when the fun of Bilbo and Frodo was that they weren't either of those things, and neither were any of the other hobbits. They just wanted to enjoy their suburban lifestyle. But when modern writers decide to tell a story their mind immediately jumps to "ok, so there's this character who's smart and funny but they don't believe in themselves even though everyone else can see that they're the most amazing person in the world." The moral of the story is always that the protagonist is perfect, because modern writers childishly assume that their characters are meant to be reflections of morality rather than reality.
@apalsnerg
3 ай бұрын
I don't understand why they were talking about Morgoth and the trees darkening but didn't mention Ungoliant. He might have tapped the trees, but it was Ungoliant who drank their light. It grinds my gears to present the lore half-assed like this.
@vampirewarioo8483
2 ай бұрын
I was looking forward to see something about her too :(
@etl0789
Жыл бұрын
These reviews are incredibly good, probably the best I've seen for rings of power.
@creatrixZBD
Жыл бұрын
31:00 she also has no knife in her hand when swimming, and no pockets 😑
@Guilherme-ow3wb
Жыл бұрын
We can guess where she hid it 🤣
@TheBelieveit1
Жыл бұрын
If you found the age gap between Don Lemonlas (Arondir) and Strong Independent Woman #30 (Bronwyn)....well strap in. Don Lemonlas claims in a later episode to be from Beleriand, this puts his actual age into a greater perspective as Beleriand was the western most region of Middle-Earth during the First Age. Yes, "was". It no longer exists. It got completely wiped off the map. This happened in the Year 587 of the First Age during the War of Wrath (the war against Morgoth). Only a small section of it remains, which is Lindon. The rest has been completely engulfed by the sea in it's destruction. This would mean that at bare minimum, Don Lemonlas was born in 587 of the First Age. Morgoth would be ultimately defeated 3 years later in 590, and thus brings the end of the First Age and the beginning of the Second. This is where Ruins of Power really had to fuck around with their chronology because we are indeed seeing characters and events out of place and time, but I see no reason to play nice with the showrunners here. Given by the end of this series the only measure of time we can assume all the events take place in are at least a month. The Rings of Power were forged in the year 1,500 of the Second Age. So if we are being charitable, Don Lemonlas is at minimum 1,503 years old. Depending on whether he was born in the First Age before or after the destruction of the Trees though would create an even bigger rabbit hole as technically Year 1 of the First Age wasn't the start of the First Age itself, just the marking of when the sun first rose. It's unclear how much of First Age involved Years of the Trees, but let's just say that Valian Years (which are about 9.7x longer than a solar year) we're looking at some redonkulous potential age gaps here, especially as he was a Sindarin Elves (meaning his people never actually left Middle Earth with the rest to colonize Valinor) so who knows how old he truly is. For the sake of fairness though, Arwen was about 2,700 years older than Aragorn so......
@Tar-Elenion
Жыл бұрын
The First Age begins when the Elves awake at Cuivienen.
@michaelsnow3536
Жыл бұрын
I knew from the start that this show would be garbage from one second of the trailer. Galadriel jumps from one point on the cliff to another, using her dagger to hold her position and looks upward, hopefully. Why? The cliff is not collapsing, there was no need to make this desperate move. Also, reapplying what carrying equipment she has left here would be very difficult assuming she abandoned it when she jumped like that. Also, the rest of her crew seem to be climbing with their equipment rather aptly, so I'm left to assume she just wanted to be dramatic, which is rather confusing.
@wherearetgepoank1117
Жыл бұрын
I wish that everyone involved in the show was strapped down clockwork Orange style and forced to watch all of your videos. I would pay money to watch them watch you. I love that you have nothing to bring in terms of the written lore. This shows clearly what I’ve been saying this whole time, that even on its own, the show is a dumpster fire A biblical proportions. Take my subscription hero
@peterackerman2799
Жыл бұрын
"I guess this is what happens when Americans adapt something." My actual reaction: "Ha HA ha-ha ha... ouch."
@jerome1lm
Жыл бұрын
Weird that the elves did not run a 'man over board' maneuver instead of letting one of them drown. I don't know.
@AndreLuis-gw5ox
Жыл бұрын
Go to elf heaven or turn around to save the insane witch? I can understand they moving forward
@skatman3278
Жыл бұрын
Really started it hoping for the best. I've watched every episode several times and then watched the Nerd of the Rings recaps. Tried my best to ignore all of the negativity and stay positive. But my god. Its just awful. Even ignoring the tedious and predictable casting choices following the, by-now, standard box ticking exercises by TV and Film, it's simply not good enough. The biggest issue for me is just how decidedly low budget and small it looks and feels. Someone I know said that the costumes look like something from an episode of Hercules and Xena in the 90s - which I honestly struggle to disagree with. The overall quality of the props and settings are apalling. The armour looks utterly shite. So does most of the scenery on a more micro level - towns and villages and the Elven tower looks like a shit scene from The Crystal Maze. The only place that looks really great is Khazad-dûm and Lindon looks at most 'OK'. And I just cannot get over how empty it all is feels. Halbrand is supposed to be the King of the South Lands, but the king of what and who, exactly? We've so far seen a single village containing no more than a few hundred people at the absolute most. Like where are all of the extras? Go back to the LOTR films and the sense of scale portrayed by even Rohan or The Shire dwarfs this. Hell, even Bree does. I almost feel like someone has had Amazon's pants down over this because there's absolutely no way this could have been the vision at the start? The decision to make Galadriel a warrior princess is ridiculous, as is her decision to jump in the sea, the fact that a random wreck with a few survivors is in the same area, the fact she went to Numenor at all, her attitude and every time she speaks while she was a guest at Numenor "ThErE iS a TeMpEsT iN mE!", the ridiculous scene of her riding on the beach while holding a shit in, the ridiculous scene in the prison, the ridiculous scene when dueling the Numenorian volunteers, the idiotic dodge(s) of the arrow(s), her frankly disturbing speach to Adar, and her ability to take a pyroclastic cloud straight to the face without blinking. And I've probably missed some. The plot, and holes in said plot, are some of the worst I've ever seen on any TV series or film. The size of the boats carrying the Numenorians are at meme levels now and the speed at which they get across the ocean, up the river, and across the land in 2 days(!) is, frankly, laughable. The decision to, in advance, build a damn to block all the water, then knowing exactly where to dig trenches (despite nobody saying how that message is passed to Adar - can't have been from Sauron given we know Adar and him weren't exactly on the best of terms) and the inability of the Elves (who are known for having unbelievable eyesight) to spot hundreds or even thousands of Orcs digging said trenches right through the middle of the territory they're keeping watch over. The Harfoots "our hearts are so big we'll leave people to die because of a stranger". The lack of any standing Numenorian army (hence looking for volunteers). The decision to send the Queen Regent on a dangerous expedition is utterly bonkers. The shortness and overall weakness of the Numenorians. The only dynamic I actually enjoy is Elrond and Durin. The rest is boring. It's totally and utterly shite and I'm not sure how much longer I can keep forcing myself to watch it in the hope that it suddenly improves. It's such a sad state of affairs made worse by the people that keep ignoring all of the above to try and support it.
@nukclear2741
Жыл бұрын
Speaking of, even Nerd of the Ring is not really happy with the show. A lot of what you said is something he brought up in his season 1 review.
@faebrookeglen5169
Жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see the character trait list by the end
@Omega0850
Жыл бұрын
Watched this one after the summary of a later episode, and i now understand why they HAD TO get rid of Celeborn: They could not have created a believable romance between her and any other character, because she is so insufferably arrogant and selfish.
@TheBelieveit1
Жыл бұрын
Honestly I do have to appreciate your approach to the review. There are plenty who have that are fans of the books and so can explain why nothing in the series works, but as it's stuff I, as another fan of the books, already knows it ends up being repeatative. So hearing it from a more normie perspective (as you're basing your understanding purely on the Peter Jackson Films, your perspective is more in line with general audiences. And again, that I like because if it makes no sense from that point of view then it just shows how not only did this show fail to please Tolkien fans but failed general audiences and potential new fans. After all the show will try to reference things in the deeper lore from the books, but as they didn't have the rights to that material, they can't elaborate further. This is a two fold problem. 1, because they can't elaborate further, the references won't make sense to anyone not familiar with the deeper lore and only confuse them. And 2, those who are familiar with the lore will only become more aggravated as these references stand to highlight the serious lore breaking they're doing to the point it's no longer Tolkien. So again, I really appreciate your review. The only references anyone is going to understand are the borderline plagiarism done as "call backs" to the Peter Jackson films and the only ones that's going to appeal to are the mouth breather audience members high on 'member berries.
@RoninDave
Жыл бұрын
Galadriel gets two introductory scenes and she is a terrible person in each one. She's a violent child who can't handle teasing and later she's a military commander who can't handle reasonable suggestions.
@ConspiracyQueryDotNet
Ай бұрын
So glad he chilled out a bit on the Disney movie cutaways in the more recent videos lol. "By all accounts it doesn't make sense" every few minutes starts to grind my gears. Everything else in these videos is great, though.
@Dare_To_Game
Жыл бұрын
Great channel. I found you through your recent Battle of five armies video, and i really enjoy your style.
@Demortixx
9 ай бұрын
Notice how browyn is the only peasant who isn’t dirty and ragged
@NewDawnRS2499
8 күн бұрын
LOTR Fellowship of the Ring budget: 93 million LOTR Two Towers budget: 94 million LOTR Return of the King budget: 94 million 281 million dollar budget combined for these 3 films Hobbit Unexpected Journey budget: 200 million- 315 million Hobbit Desolation of Smaug budget: 217 million- 250 million Hobbit Battle of the Five Armies budget: 209 million- 300 million Total budget combined for the Hobbit movies: 626 million- 865 million Total budget of the LOTR movies and the Hobbit movies combined 1.146 billion Budget of the Rings of Power: 1 Billion dollars The LOTR Movies and the Hobbit Movies combined cost slightly more than the RoP but are drastically better and actually used their budget properly
@setlik3gaming80
Жыл бұрын
KZitem suggested your channel. Excellent analysis 👏🏻 👍 🖖🏼
@Henrique-hl3xk
Жыл бұрын
This is Pure Gold!!!!! The editing is Just amazing!! Congrats from Brazil
@Buford_T_Justice1
Жыл бұрын
Holy crap dude this is so GREAT! I caught your two The Hobbit videos and enjoyed them immensely. I had seen those movies and your analysis was hilarious. Now I went back into your playlist and am dying 20 minutes into your Rings of Power analysis. I didn’t watch the show and find it EVEN MORE entertaining having you tell me they/them’s story with your jokes. I dodged a bullet skipping ROP but found a gem with your channel. SUBBED!!!!!!!
@Rachelauren
Жыл бұрын
The knife ears insult immediately made me think of dragon age immediately. Thanks for pointing it out
@JamesScarborough5290
4 ай бұрын
Can’t believe you haven’t read the books because you don’t enjoy reading. It’s like never going outside to see a sunset because you don’t enjoy walking. I strongly recommend you read the majesty of Tolkien. Far better than the movies (as great as they are).
@Me-pe5xl
Жыл бұрын
This review is hysterical! I have actually LAUGHED out loud at multiple points throughout these videos.
@hansolav5924
Жыл бұрын
explaining about the trees(provided amazon's explanation matches the books', which apparently is not at all guaranteed) would require displaying some sort of giant spidery creature, which they probably figured would be bad for a few audience members, so it was outlawed.
@Leotheleprachaun
Жыл бұрын
KZitem reccomendations actually giving me something good to watch, and not just a single video breaking down this travesty, but an entire playlist?! Have they sorted their shit out then or is this just a happy coincidence? *We'll never know*
@Kernwadi
Жыл бұрын
Own a sword for manor defence, since that's what the Magna Carta intended. Four heathens break into my cottage. "What in the Lord's name?" As I grab my aventail bascinet and windlass arbalest. Punch a bolt through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Throw a pot of naft at the second man and miss entirely since it's a hand thrown grenade in the dark and burns down the neighbour's harvest causing them to starve in the winter. I have to resort to the pot of boiling oil at the top of the hay loft "Deus Lo Vult!" The boiling oil completely drenches two men and cause them to scream in agony and writhe on the ground, racked with incomprehensible pain. The screams of pain frightens horses in nearby stables. Draw sword and charge the last terrified infidel. He bleeds out with no one to assist him since this is Feudal Europe and nobody gives a shit. Just as the Magna Carta intended.
@Leotheleprachaun
Жыл бұрын
@@Kernwadi jfc go back to posting random shit on EFAP vods.
@izolationmediainc.9625
Жыл бұрын
44:14 nori is curious and brave and dosent follow the fucking rules!
@crazydudeofcrazyness
Жыл бұрын
first time viewr of the channel here, my only note is tht it took my 10 mins before i noticed that instead of simply a cursed Kronk it was Ysma imposed onto Cronk. And that makes it more cursed. I love it. That is all
@BoxBishop
Жыл бұрын
really nice and chill video, you got a new sub after corelating evilness to room temperature (around 11:00)
@spencertaylor-mrliltay
8 ай бұрын
I watched all these when they came out and have pretty much pretended they don’t exist since. 😂 Watching this video is reminding me how utterly teeth grinding mad Galadriel’s portrayal made me from the get go. I’m sorry to the actress who portrayed her. I’ve never seen her in anything else so I have no idea if she’s any good in other projects but in this show there was basically nothing, from writing to acting that I didn’t absolutely hate about Galadriel in this show!
@tiinakirik2315
Жыл бұрын
LOL! thanks for this review. As a Canadian heading into another winter, I'm stunned every time I see those elves in a blizzard with bloody chainmail on - and Galadrial has it over her head! doh. I guess it is not metal then?
@Yggdrasil42
Жыл бұрын
Likely made of Mithril, the supermetal previously shown in LOTR.
@kesselknut
Жыл бұрын
Dude, your approach to a joke like ROP is unique, knowledgeable and humorous! I love listening to your opinions and conclusions. I am desperately waiting for your final take on the hobbit. While this is hopefully in the making I'll enjoy the complete ROP review for the hundreds time. 😅 Please keep on doing what you are doing!
@JamesMC04
Жыл бұрын
Galadriel - unlikeable - obsessive - selfish - definitely not a team player - severe PTSD - patronising - entitled Arondir - intelligent - not emotionally intelligent Theo - rude - badly brought-up About Hordern: is it simply a coincidence that Sir Michael Hordern voiced Gandalf (superbly, BTW) in the BBC 1981 Radio dramatisation?
@shellyseketa582
2 жыл бұрын
Wow ! You thoroughly explore from all points of view. Very good review 👌
@NicknotNak
6 ай бұрын
In full honesty: this video/series has changed how i analysis media. The "what did we learn character-wise" from eachc scene has helped me both in my own writing, as well as when i read and edit my friend's works. I can give insight into what is and may not be intentional character traits, associations from one scene to the next, and parallels being drawn. A lot of the time its accidental, but its both fun as an exercise for me and good feedback for it.
@whitegoose2017
2 жыл бұрын
The greatest fault of this series is that it is a production of the current American political zeitgeist. It's not good. No one will ever remember this show after a few years. There is nothing timeless about this.
@theother1281
2 жыл бұрын
It's not so much the zeitgeist as Amazon trying to cash in on a zeitgeist they don't understand.
@failedGraphics
Жыл бұрын
No one will remember this show after a few weeks and if they do it will be because of videos like this.
@MrShadowfax42
Жыл бұрын
@@theother1281 Yes, they do not understand the "get woke, go broke" zeitgeist, I agree.
@mharris6221
Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your channel! Please keep reviewing things! I'll keep watching!
@peterpidrak9501
Жыл бұрын
You feel old, because fellowship came out when you were nine. We were literally debating about whether or not we could go to see fellowship because my wife was ready to have our second child. We didn’t know if she might go with the labor during the extremely long movie :-)
@robertb7293
Жыл бұрын
At 79 years on station in the area, Aarondir wouldn't have just known Bronwyn her entire life, its possible that her grandmother hadn't been born when the elves arrived. Long enough to know a specific towns religious makeup better than someone born there? That's space for multiple human lifetimes of romantic partners for Aaron to have already gone through. He could even have children that were Bronwyns grandparents ag- Waitaminute.
@TallisKeeton
Жыл бұрын
Knowing that - according to the books - the only one relation between elven male and mortal woman (all other elf-mortal romances were between elven women and mortal men) was romance between Aegnor (one of 4 brothers of Galadriel) and Andreth (know as the Wise) this seems very unlikely that Arondir even serving as warden for 78 years in the area could be at all interested in relation with Bronwyn, and as Andreth was known as Wise and deemed by her folk as very special person (thus the elves become her friends) I dont think that some as uncompetent, folly and mundane as Bronwyn could be able to become interesting for any elf male :)
@robertb7293
Жыл бұрын
@@TallisKeeton I agree completely. The fact that my fever dream conspiritarding that girl boss and Aaron are doing the wincest holds any water at all, just shows how badly Amazon mangled Tolkiens intent. Elves just aren't interested in humans that way, but the show says otherwise. We have an elf who is blatantly doing the naughty with humans, and has lived among them for generations. I drink to forget. I need another pint.
@angamaitesangahyando685
Жыл бұрын
19:10 I'm utterly confused as to why not a single KZitemr has mentioned how hilarious it is for the Elves to be banned from returning to Valinor. Lindon was not the mythical north Korea famed for its strict emigration laws. (Yes, Galadriel herself was banned, but not the other Elves.) - Adûnâi
@randomft
Жыл бұрын
My presumption was that going back to Valinor was something of a rite of passage, as depicted in the show, and given the magical nature of arriving there as we see in episode 1 it isn’t something any rando can just do. It requires some kind of specific magic to allow it. I am sure this is in the books, not the show, but either way I don’t have a problem with the concept.
@Troublethecat
Жыл бұрын
I thought all of the Noldor were banned from returning to Valinor because of the first Kinslaying.
@Tar-Elenion
Жыл бұрын
@@TroublethecatAll the Noldor were banned. Following the War of Wrath, the ban was remitted and the Noldor were allowed to return and dwell in Tol Eressea, except a few chief actors in the rebellion. Depending on variant.
@GrainneMhaol
Жыл бұрын
One thing, I don't blame Morffyd Clark for any of this. She's a fine actress hampered by in incomprehensible script that's trying to sound lofty.
@BWMagus
Жыл бұрын
Either she or the director fucked up her scenes though.
@bmardiney
Жыл бұрын
You know what I think when I think Galadriel? Angry crazy eyes. Definitely.
@doornik1142
9 ай бұрын
The portrayal of child elves is especially jarring if you've read the Silmarillion. Elves aren't perfect by any means but casual bullying was not something that just happened back then.
@ABCish
10 күн бұрын
After watching some of this (thanks for taking one for the team), I think you have every right to say "you have not seen what I have seen" 😳
@meowyuni
Жыл бұрын
Your character notes in between are so funny omg
@brianensign7638
Жыл бұрын
I suspect that your view on the importance of being faithful to the source material is pretty much how most people feel. I loved the Lord of the rings movies, and I love the books. I was disappointed by some of the changes that the films made, but in retrospect I’m OK with most of them because I recognize that they were necessary. The reason that “purists” hate rings of power is because Amazon wants to have their cake and eat it too. They want the fan base that the source material provides, but otherwise view it as a liability to the story they want to tell. They’re not doing their best to make a difficult adaptation… It’s abundantly clear that they actively despise the source material.
@BWMagus
Жыл бұрын
I don't think they know the source material well enough to despise it.
@unicornwitchprincess1004
Жыл бұрын
Your analysis is amazing, buuut I recommend you listening to the audiobooks of Tolkien’s work. The audiobooks are entertaining! It will help to fill in some gaps and highlight what is adaptation absurdity and what is established (or vaguely not established) by Tolkien.)
@hansolav5924
Жыл бұрын
I will never forgive Jackson for making it 'ok' to present tolkien elves as 'humans with faintly pointy ears'. Proper Elves of any nomination are one of those things that simply CANNOT be properly presented in live-action form. (though Legolas made a good show of it. at a distance. in the movies)
@masterofthedeathwing2839
Жыл бұрын
lord of the rings book 1 the fellowship is hard to get through. I read them when i was like 11 or some shit. and it took me 3 attempts to get through the fellowship. book 2 and 3 read very easy though. if you can get through the fellowship, you will fly through the two towers and return of the king.
@ScooterDoge
Жыл бұрын
24:39 early 20s? Damn you’re generous.
@luster5497
Жыл бұрын
If Elves in this universe are all immortals, why the need to make more??? Never dying over populated Elves, seems a bigger threat than Sauron himself.
@DCSWCCkingpin1
Жыл бұрын
Do you honestly think Bronwyn looks like she’s in her early 20s? You must not pay attention to women IRL, she doesn’t look a day under 30 to me and in fact the actress is over 40
@awsome182
Жыл бұрын
I will always dislike the idea of short haired elves.
@olthac
Жыл бұрын
I’m just glad this show is not considered canon. None of it is from the books and so is nothing more than fan fiction.
@JacobStJules
Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah! I'm going to be going through all of these! Thank you very much!
@DaDunge
Жыл бұрын
39:30 She has a point Elrond wasn't there for most of the war of wrath, but he is on the other hand the son of Eärendil and Elwing, who's brave leap of faith is what eventually won the war for te forces of good.
@gailf1617
Жыл бұрын
As a small child, Elrond and his brother Elros witnessed their home being invaded and destroyed around them by the Feanorians. They might have seen their mother driven to apparent suicide bearing the Silmaril on her breast. Apparently, only Maglor's influence prevented a second incidence of little Elven boys being lost to Feanorian vengeance that day (the first being that of their uncles, when the Feanorians invaded Menegroth and killed Dior and Nimloth and threw their young sons out into the winter forest to starve and the boys disappeared; but Dior's daughter Elwing, future mother of Elrond, survived), but Elrond definitely saw evil occur, probably saw plenty of people die, and was then taken away with his brother by the invaders (who were his cousins). That Maglor became, briefly, a surrogate father to the boys is a strange and wonderful bit of the Silmarillion.
@Tar-Elenion
Жыл бұрын
Tolkien's Elrond was there for the War of Wrath. He was in his teens when it started, and in his 50s when it ended.
@Henkvanpeer
Жыл бұрын
I found the reading of the books also very much entertaining… when I find myself in a situation without electricity, internet etc., there are always books,,, great to spend the time reading! God tnx there are books!
@michaelhawkins1237
Жыл бұрын
im sorry for the incoherent rage that episode 6/7 will cause for you
@maxgrozema1093
Жыл бұрын
There's so much they could've done with this. For example the fortress they enter. It was said Morgoth's fortresses were connected through underground tunnels. They could've started with the elves entering the tunnels, getting lost, and out of desperation following the E of Sauron. To add to it: it is however plausible that Galadriel as a First Age elf could easily wreck a troll. However she is a sorcerer, not a warrior, why not build on that?
@goodnaturedgamer8181
Жыл бұрын
Only just found your channel but this is very well done. New sub from me and look forward to watching your whole series 👍 keep it up
@hansolav5924
Жыл бұрын
I would suggest AUDIObooks. listen on the road, while you snooze, at work, on the beach. they're marvelous(dependent on quality of story matched to narrator. YMMV)
@TaoScribble
Жыл бұрын
As someone that gets randomly screwed so hard from call-offs that an 8-hour shift can become a 12-hour one, audiobooks are a _godsend._
@handsomejamesgrandinternet2106
8 ай бұрын
27:11 From my best knowledge , “grower” is a very particular kind of farmer. They don’t feed you , but they make your life brighter
@aarondelisle7693
Жыл бұрын
"This woman lacks the chromosome required for acting" Bro, I just spit my beer all over the living room. Shame on you.
@TallisKeeton
Жыл бұрын
At this point in the story Elrond can be 3000 years old or more (so he is not an elven teenager anymore. for elves anything above 100 means adulthood and up to 2000 elves are considered as young ones - maybe its smt like being around 20 for us) and it seems that it is the first council of elven lords where he is not allowed to be present ? :D Resonable questions are : - why its only now, and not on all previous councils - like for the last 2000 years ? :) - was he allowed to be on previous councils ? - are all councils only for full-elves ? - if the councils are only for full-elves, why ?
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