One thing I regret not addressing in this video is how unfortunate this situation will be for the players and staff in regions impacted by what is, ultimately, a downsizing of the lolesports ecosystem. My focus in this video was mostly on addressing this from an LCS fan perspective, as that is the majority of my audience. After uploading the video (but before setting it live), I realized it lacks empathy for fans of regions like the LLA. I should have made it clear that there are obviously going to be terrible ramifications for many people who have dedicated their time and passion to this sport. That deserves a place in this discussion. On a much smaller note, in rewatching the video here a few hours before it goes live, I also realized I makes it sound like the playins match at Worlds is between the MSI winner and the second best performing region. That wasn't my intent. There is a fight between two teams to determine the final 16 teams at Worlds, but it's unclear to me what the details of that are.
@johnkirk1772
2 ай бұрын
is it really downsizing though? the second tier system now has an incentive to perform and is included in the ecosystem - there is now a way of going pro that doesn't revolve around hoping you get picked for 1 of 8 available slots in your position - you can go pro by simply being better in the second tier which opens up pathways for streamers, (non-head) coaches of the LCS, collabs with celebrities at lower price points than LCS can offer...brings life back to the second tier scene
@TravisGafford
2 ай бұрын
@@johnkirk1772 Lolesports is bigger than LCS, lol
@IJustStoleaNoob
2 ай бұрын
Will the two teams we lose go into NACL?
@Khaled-bs7zc
2 ай бұрын
The changes suck. I blame you Travis.
@Khaled-bs7zc
2 ай бұрын
/s
@Liratan
2 ай бұрын
Ah this explains why DIG finally made a good roster
@christopherriordan2057
2 ай бұрын
I don’t think it’s that simple, they benefited from league going down to 8 teams from 10 and there being good talent that wasn’t on a team
@Liratan
2 ай бұрын
@@christopherriordan2057 Yes that's true but it's really obvious that in the past their priority when making rosters wasn't to make the best team they could but this roster makes me hope that maybe that's changed.
@christopherriordan2057
2 ай бұрын
@@Liratan yeah I think it can be a bit of both… the best players didn’t want to go there but they also probably didn’t want to spend as much compared to C9 or TL
@CameronPrice2
2 ай бұрын
I feel like this either means they plan to be competitive for the future and stay in the league… or they have one last split to spend their money so they decided to go out with a bang. I’m leaning towards the latter… but who knows?
@fullmetal929
2 ай бұрын
Watch them be one of the two teams that has to leave after all this, lmao
@AceholeGA
2 ай бұрын
So basically NA became a wildcard region but they sugar coated it.
@bendovbloch7630
2 ай бұрын
its even worse honestly
@LeonsHarmonica
2 ай бұрын
i mean it makes sense, we have been getting owned every year internationally for over a decade lol
@Xeverettxx
2 ай бұрын
@@LeonsHarmonica Not really we've been competitive enough to take games and place in the top 4 in worlds we've won MSI saying owned when LLA and CBLoL haven't done anything at all is like comparing the new york yankees to the quick park sand gnats.
@essschesss6471
2 ай бұрын
It's exactly what happened in valorant, and I don't really know if their number are still doing good but I stopped watching when they joined NA and SA as the Americas at the start of last year.
@essschesss6471
2 ай бұрын
@@Xeverettxx NA never won msi, lol
@HT-jj5sx
2 ай бұрын
It's kinda crazy that it's basically an article that comes outta no where. Also a bummer that the number of jobs just got smacked as well. Thx for the content brother.
@ShamuPvP
2 ай бұрын
my immediate reaction is a bit sad that LCS is probably gone. I dont care too much about viewers but i liked watching my little league. It was cozy and fun and I knew all the players and personalities. I dont wnat that to go away
@Tonytonytony3
2 ай бұрын
Perfectly summarized. It felt like a nice alternative when the traditional sports I love like football and soccer aren’t on. And it indeed gelt cozy, fun, and just had a sense of belonging for the fans like they almost owned a little piece of it. Now it’s gonna be too confusing for the former hardcore fans who are now half in the bag fans, like myself. I’m gonna lose even more interest:/
@NyangisKhan
2 ай бұрын
Well we have the north conference now. Also we might actually have a tier2 team as a guest team in it as well. It's probably going to be either DSG, Dragonsteel or FEAR. FLYC probably can't be promoted because it literally can't. And DSG, Dragonsteel and OTK will bring a lot of new eyes to the league. I actually feel bad for the LLA fans lol. The league is officially dead.
@factsarestubbornthings6725
2 ай бұрын
lol if only the region I not a major region and sinking so much money in it each year. Joke region should have been donated years ago
@babyg0ggles
2 ай бұрын
Markz actually had fans excited for summer split. It was the most positive fan sentiment for the LCS that ive seen in years. Then riot has to come in the week the split starts and throw all that good sentiment out the window. Feels like they are intentionally tanking lolesports in the west.
@user-rv8gn5qf3o
2 ай бұрын
Tf are you on about? These changes are sweet.
@dao5230
2 ай бұрын
Not only are they tanking it, they decided that they're going to take the CBLOL (which is a far more successful ENTERTAINMENT product than the LCS) and drag it down with us. Absolute selfish behavior
@m.s7334
2 ай бұрын
@@dao5230only people I see who like these changes are people who obviously don’t watch the leagues
@penz1297
2 ай бұрын
Feels like how Disney treated their 2d projects like Treasure Planet when they (presumably) wanted to justify not doing them anymore.
@philip2111
2 ай бұрын
If you believed Markz you’re a fool
@pn9043
2 ай бұрын
This comes out of nowhere. Im glad Riot Esports is continuing to be as transparent as the bottom of the ocean.
@mrboobo3436
2 ай бұрын
It's been discussed for well over a year. Travis has mentioned it a ton of times for example....
@urgottabkiddingme914
2 ай бұрын
they literally posted it 4 hours ago
@IvanRampi
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, for people who don't follow rumors and speculations closely, this does come out of nowhere. Personally, I've seen a lot of stuff on Twitter regarding this so not really surprised, but the media for it was close to nothing
@xjminahh
2 ай бұрын
Idk what more you expect from them. These changes are for next season and summer split hasnt even started yet. How much earlier did you want them to announce this? Did you want them to be like "hm we are contemplating this!!" Because that isn't transparency. No business will announce things that are still in consideration
@user-mw1rc6jx1b
2 ай бұрын
@@xjminahh Easy on the brown nosing of Riot Games. Obviously they aren't perfect and yes they make massive mistakes and have made massive mistakes in the past. It's fine if you hold them in sentimental esteem but leave your obnoxious defenses for your journal. "We are considering this" is overtly transparency. I don't even agree with them saying that before knowing anything officially but you're ranting at the guy for being a riot hater and it's annoying.
@M1GOD
2 ай бұрын
As an European that is fucking stupid changes and just destroys the North American league. Personally im kinda sad about these changes
@user-mw1rc6jx1b
2 ай бұрын
Oh wow. Combining two giant continents AND reducing the amount of competition again. It really does feel like Riot is plighted with a small selection of powerful and terrible decision makers. Hard to imagine how this is remotely good for either the company's bottom line or the viewers excitement.
@litical3719
2 ай бұрын
Maybe so there's more than 3 competitive teams in the lcs . And now since the league s less bloated making NA talent more condense , the top 3 teams in the league wont be half Korean/foreign
@Hot_Soupp
2 ай бұрын
The vast majority of these changes feel so bad as an LCS viewer who's watched since LCS' inception. Your point of "maybe long-time LCS fans might stop caring after these changes" is exactly what I'm feeling right now. I also feel super bad for fans (and players / staff) of the other regions as well who are affected by this. I'd imagine the vast majority of fans from all of the affected regions aren't going to be happy with these changes. Since Mark has come in as commissioner, almost every change has felt VERY fan / player focused, which felt SO GOOD as a longtime viewer. THESE changes feel incredibly corpo, and made by groups of people who don't understand the scene (even if they think they do). Aside from relegation, which I like, all of this is straight up BAD news for me, and makes me lose more hope. Which sucks, because since Mark stepped in I have felt sooo much more positive and happy with the direction the league was heading towards. They are making it REALLY hard for me to keep caring about this scene, and that sucks. Idk how much longer I can continue to be frustrated with dumb decisions before I just tap out and stop caring / watching.
@Hayte
2 ай бұрын
Thank you for explaining exactly how I’m feeling as a long time LCS fan. Going from 10 to 8 teams already sucked. Now down to 6 and a chance an NA team won’t even be at one of the international tourneys really kills my motivation to watch pro play in NA. I am an NA fan and these changes kill the pride I have for our region. Might just switch to LEC or LCK.
@tonyswu
2 ай бұрын
I really feel bad for the NA players on the bottom half of the ladder. I think eXyu being kicked from DIG might've been a blessing in disguise so he could re-focus on something better than LCS whose future is looking worse and worse. Really feels bad, I was really enjoying this year so far, but this just brings everything down.
@ClickHere4Naruto
2 ай бұрын
I feel like the relegation part is the biggest part imo. You're going to have 1 less "NA" Team, I'd imagine that promotion/relegation team will be NA primarily and that's MASSIVE. You already had 2+ teams wanting to leave so replace it with a Non-NA team isn't the worst honestly. The seeds for worlds and MSI Are the main thing that sucks tbh
@christopherhall619
2 ай бұрын
I agree woth your arguements but at some stage corpo changes need to be made cause lcs was declining financially, and it isn't relevant on the world stage
@Targetdh
2 ай бұрын
All these Corpo changes are made bc LCS is not financially sustainable, they waited too long to do this if you think about it, LCS as a product compared to its peers is a massive failure, and as a "Major Region" I don't even think theres a conversation about it. Americas League in Valorant was a massive success and knowing that League is x10 bigger than Valo in LATAM and Brazil will most likely be the way to go for LCS/Americas now
@marciojunio16
2 ай бұрын
A few cents on how the Brazilian community reacted: CBLOL currently has 10 teams and losing 4 spots is HUGE and this part by itself is generating a LOT of backslash towards this new format. Removing 4 teams, means not only 20 players fired, but also all the staff behind them, since cleaners to head managers. There's also an unconfirmed rumor about players max import rules saying it would change from 3 BR players + 2 imports (or 3 NA players + 2 imports in LCS case) to 2 BR players + 2 imports + 1 americas player (2 NA + 2 imports + 1 americas player in LCS case). This could lead to the few good players we still have on the South conference going to the north conference due to currency conversion rates. Another uncertain topic is how the Tier 2 will develop, because today, we have 14 teams on the academy tournament with players being developed for the future and, once the Tier 2 offers the chance of a spot at Tier 1 League, most T2 teams will probably build lineups jut to win it or just to sell players and the spot at the south conference. Of course, people are liking the fact that we'll have guaranteed spots at MSI and Worlds, having more games through the year, the relegation system itself (which puts a little more presssure on franchised teams to perform well). There's another rumour about the global revenue pool which I did not understand pretty well, however, having more money to divide for less teams, could lead into sustainability, together with possible new "monetary fair play" rules in place. Those are the thoughtfull talks happening right now, there's a bunch of unbased comments saying Riot is trying to merge viewership from CBLOL to LCS and other things I don't think it's worth commenting. In summary: we did not like it either
@stefan4165
2 ай бұрын
Not sure how they even try selling it as a merger. This is now just 2 regions fighting for the same spots at international. If it goes through like this, I am probably done watching.
@mrboobo3436
2 ай бұрын
There is no if.
@essschesss6471
2 ай бұрын
It's exactly what happened in valorant, and I don't really know if their number are still doing good but I stopped watching when they joined NA and SA as the Americas at the start of last year.
@ThatsAmore123
2 ай бұрын
@@essschesss6471 Avid VCT viewer here, viewership is doing really well despite the merger but the competitiveness between the regions for the most part is ok
@ruancomitre
2 ай бұрын
A few remarks on the video: - Franchising in sports is pretty much a NA thing only, on the rest of the world is much more common to have tournaments with relegations. Also, conferences is not a concept used in the competions in brasil/latin america; - For MSI, the three regions lost 2 slots (since it is down from 1 LLA, 1 CBLOL, 2 LCS to 2 americas); - For worlds, the three regions also lose slots, going from 5 to 6 (3 or 4 LCS, 1 CBLOL, 1 LLA) to 3 slots; Overral it is bad for all the envolved regions. As a brazilian fan, it feels awful to see our region losing 4 of the 10 teams, especially when we see the scene growing every year despite getting dumpstered internationally in every tournament. I mean, there is even an argument that the CBLOL should be expanded because of the amount of orgs and tier 2/amateur teams we have here that are not in CBLOL. Most of the fans don't care about other leagues, they only care about our the CBLOL. So i don't see how these fans, who just care about CBLOL, will have any interest in watching this "north conference", and i believe it would only lead to frustration watching our teams duke it out to found out who is going to get rekt by the NA team. And allegedly, the CBLOL is sustainable on its own. Why our league needs to downsize and get the short end of the stick to fix years and years of mismanagement of Riot NA/NA orgs? For the LLA, it also sucks, because this league is already a product of a merger between central america and south america, and they are struggling to keep the league running for a while, which is sad because there is a bunch of very passionate fans in the region. And for the lcs, they are getting even smaller which is definitly not good for the region, it was already a huge blow to lose 2 teams, and now they are losing two more, making it even harder for the up and coming talent in the region to get spots in the teams. Also for them, it doesn't make any sense to have a finals against a br/lla team where they will just stomp them. It will be super anticlimatic for the players and the fans. I feel like it would make much more sense to somehow expand both the lcs and cblol with the lla teams if the region is not sustainable, and add some guest/tier 2 slots, to move up from 8 and 10, respectively, to 12 and 14. It would be a nice way to keep LLA region engaged in the competitive scene and bring some new and exciting things.
@dpb22
2 ай бұрын
There are two central problems North and South America face in being competitive with the rest of the world. The first is ping and nobody can or will do anything about that. The second is population. If you shrink the number of teams, you don't thin out the available talent pool and in theory you can create more competitive teams. The question is whether or not the rest of Latin America will continue to care when they are shoehorned into NA and Brazil. If they do, this might help. If they don't then it's won't.
@Tom-jy3in
2 ай бұрын
@@dpb22 CBLOL teams will start clapping NA teams in a year or two, its gonna be fine 😎
@bendovbloch7630
2 ай бұрын
great reply and interesting to see the perspective from the cblol fans as well. ye as lcs fan, this blows and I really don't know anymore or if should I care.. there are only going to be 6 teams that means 10 players are out for good + 10 tier 2 players as well I think + staff. where are they going to go? riotput them into retirement. basically reduced cblol and lcs to baby regions :(
@reubenvercuiel9259
2 ай бұрын
@@bendovbloch7630yea I do agree with you too, only thing for me as a long time viewer of the region is that at least they are try to get the product into a better place. Admittedly I don’t love down sizing but if we have to take a few steps back to move forward… in my opinion I’m okay with that.
@jaydee4177
2 ай бұрын
@Tom-jy3in I mean, it's possible, but if anything CBLoL has looked comparatively weaker internationally than it did in the Pain Gaming/ INTZ days. But maybe being forced to go from 10 to 6 teams will help consolidate Brazilian talent
@CrenAlder3
2 ай бұрын
As an LCS fan since season 4, these changes make me not want to watch LCS any more. You're telling me there's only going to be 6 LCS teams now? Mark was doing such a great job of revitalizing the region, and now the whole region is getting slashed. I watch LCS because it's my home region. Even if I like other LPL/LEC/LCK teams, I don't pull for them the same way because they aren't home teams. So instead of thinking long-term to save what is Riot's greatest marketing tool in the LCS, they're deciding to go for a short-term boost over the long-term health of the region. I do not care about the CBLOL or LATAM, and now we also have to give up a Worlds spot and an MSI spot. Fuck that, with my whole chest, that's absolute bullshit. John Needham is a cancer on the league, and this decision will destroy the LCS. If anyone at Riot reads this, please, reconsider these changes.
@Pofiveddie
2 ай бұрын
Lcs has been dead for years. Not gonna change because of one person.
@tylerdavisson355
2 ай бұрын
The big wigs literally don't understand anything like that. They only think about Korea and China. For some reason they think that NA fans and BR fans will want to watch a mixed league. It's not thought out at all, and the viewership will most surely end up lower than before and just cause the Leagues to die even faster. The people who manage this kind of thing are just so out of touch with the fanbase it hurts.
@JacobGiocondo-gv2uf
2 ай бұрын
Commenting for boost 👍
@coolasfire111
2 ай бұрын
Fortunately we will not realize a lot of the downsides of these changes since it will fundamentally destroy interest and fan engagement so fast that it would be shocking any NA scene is left in year 2 of this.
@user-mw1rc6jx1b
2 ай бұрын
It's a promotion for Brazil and demotion for NA - everyone knows it will either be the end or temporary. Most likely temporary. Brazil already had a guaranteed spot at worlds. We lose one with the potential for losing 2 (Brazil has the potential to gain 1). I'm happy for Brazil but fundamentally you'd have to be out of your mind to act as though the LCS and CBL are on the same level. It's not a reasonable move and they know it.
@douglasflores41
2 ай бұрын
@@user-mw1rc6jx1b not promortion for brazil, majority of the community here dislikes this,we rather Na kill itself alone instead of dragging us down in this bullshit. we are literally losing 4 of our teams, we do not even care about internationals anymore.
@joshuabryant9845
2 ай бұрын
Been watching for 10 years. This could genuinely be it for me.
@User-pu3lc
2 ай бұрын
LCS being placed closer to CBLOL is a deathblow to the NA viewer base. We want the NA-EU competitions. This model further reduces the probability to see those match-ups.
@jackphillips6742
2 ай бұрын
But do Brazilians like to see NA v BRA
@User-pu3lc
2 ай бұрын
@@jackphillips6742 Who cares 😆
@sergioaugusto3784
2 ай бұрын
@@jackphillips6742 Which Brazilians? I'm brazilian and we care about Br X NA as much as the NA.
@pliniojr95
2 ай бұрын
@@jackphillips6742Speak for yourself. No brazilian is happy with these changes. We would rather having our own region than merging with NA.
@witpickles
2 ай бұрын
@pliniojr95 get good then...too late. Our regions aren't Korea/China. It's that simple. Our regions no longer support their own leagues fiscally. Rather than change nothing and letting leagues die. Riot chose to make a change. The only reason lec isn't getting squeezed like this is their unique geographic fan bases that bolster engagement.
@Chubbysquirrel8
2 ай бұрын
Damn I've been a hardcore fan for 10 years(staying up till 5am to watch na at worlds) and now I honestly don't know if i have interest in watching anymore. They killed our league for real this time :/ I guess the lcs should be dead video was a goodbye tribute 😢
@EthanHMoore
2 ай бұрын
Yeahhhhh, i'm out on these changes. LCS Summer sounded cool, but it means the changes dont matter
@jonathanluk4858
2 ай бұрын
Travis, blink twice if MarkZ is being held hostage.
@blbaugctvc8071
2 ай бұрын
this whole conference thing will exisist for 2 years and then it will be gone as well
@thothrax5621
2 ай бұрын
I'm mostly sad that it seems like LCS is having a bit of a resonance, with better international performances, better official content, and now have almost certainly the best commissioner we've ever had who's willing to shake things up. It's all very exciting to see what may be a come up, and to get suddenly head shot by a reduction in teams, right after we JUST had one, and a reduction in international slots, just feels gross. Like come on, it finally felt like there was a path forward, and now it seems unsure. It's not even that this is necessarily bad, just that if feels like we had sure footing, just to get it ripped out from under us again.
@PlsDontReadThis123
2 ай бұрын
Few steps forward then we tumble down the whole flight of stairs in NA. I was hyped for the summer changes too.
@benoitgagnon1258
2 ай бұрын
This is so huge and scary I got no idea how this is gonna shake out. Feels horrible to lose more teams which means more players gonna get sidelined.
@ShamuPvP
2 ай бұрын
dang licorice went to dig just to eventually lose his job again (like GG disolving)
@aidancuite6919
2 ай бұрын
Imma be honest, I think DIG's increased spending recently is probably due to wanting to look good for the upcoming cuts. Id imagine they are not wanting to leave the league.
@rudedinosaur
2 ай бұрын
@@aidancuite6919or they wanna value the team higher so it has a better potential buyout….i have no idea, just spitballing
@Ging75
2 ай бұрын
His contract is until end of split
@rextoothman9833
2 ай бұрын
He did get beat by content creators in Brazil
@insecurecow4419
2 ай бұрын
theres no way its Dig and not IMT and Shopify
@billyhardin7401
2 ай бұрын
Man this sucks as an LCS fan. I’m for sure upset. Wish we could take a Time Machine back into more fun league :(
@billyhardin7401
2 ай бұрын
The more I hear this news I’m actually getting depressed not finishing the video can’t. Glad one of my favorite things during the year is fucking gutted. I’m just sad now
@OSenistro
2 ай бұрын
this sucks for LCS, CbLol, LLA ‘s fans
@essschesss6471
2 ай бұрын
We just gotta hope things will get better eventually
@RyanBrrr
2 ай бұрын
idk, but I’m pretty sure this headshots pro league in NA in the long term. Feels impossible to celebrate any of these changes when it means the loss of so many jobs and opportunities. This could be the end of my NA fandom tbh, feels bad.
@RyanBrrr
2 ай бұрын
I can also see a world where Brazil starts importing players from NA given that players will be more incentivized to play there now. This whole thing feels like a half baked mess.
@Sighduck1
2 ай бұрын
@@RyanBrrr yea I was thinking that too. But I think the the fandom will kind o f be combined as well. LS was explaining it like Smackdown VS RAW in WWE
@asd316x
2 ай бұрын
as a LCS fan since 2020, it really sucks to lose a worlds/msi slot as seeing NA teams at international tournanents was my favorite thing with lolesports
@cobbil
2 ай бұрын
This is a terrible decision. What were they hoping to accomplish here? Boosts in viewers for a split before we lose interest? Absolute dogshit.
@theneuropathyguy
2 ай бұрын
they need to consolidate the scene and restructure it so it can be sustainable longterm, its bleeding money and if it gets concentrated there is bigger slices of pies for the teams to have and reinvest in the sport to grow (hopefully)
@joshuabryant9845
2 ай бұрын
@theneuropathyguy Its been bleeding money from basically day 1
@NyangisKhan
2 ай бұрын
The positive side is that they added a "guest" slot. Which means t2 teams are actually going to seriously compete for that slot. Which makes the tier2 scene of valorant way mote exciting than even CS. Also we aren't losing much by axing freaking IMT and DIG. I say good riddance with all the drama and the scummy stuff they pull I hope they're gone for good from the scene. PLUS Travis' favorite lol team, Dragonsteel has a chance to get that guest spot.
@ItsOctoberr
2 ай бұрын
@@theneuropathyguy How is it a bigger slice of the pie when you're taking away the slices from the likes of LJL, PCS, VCS, LCO and then expecting them to fight over the same slice.
@theneuropathyguy
2 ай бұрын
@@ItsOctoberr to my understanding there is overall going to be a lot less teams right?
@Robo-Awsome
2 ай бұрын
The LCS is fan focused mark says, to then losing two more teams and can only send one team to msi. Yea, I dont think Im interested anymore.
@m.s7334
2 ай бұрын
At least the old commissioner only got rid of two teams instead of getting rid and two teams AND taking away international spots
@kwazykway5252
2 ай бұрын
i'll be watching international events only
@williamsong665
2 ай бұрын
Something I'm interested in seeing is how the talent is going to be dispersed around the Americas. Once the talent disperses will Brazil and LLA start leveling up with LCS and become a better region altogether with more stakes and play? Or will the pros we know now slowly start going into retirement and make way for newer players coming up? Interested in seeing how this plays out because right now as a NA fan it def feels like we were handed the shortest stick, but maybe it's the correct play in the long run
@Auixerre
2 ай бұрын
They 100% need to do more media coverage. I honestly can't think of a downside of a well-done press conference. It's also sometimes hard to find all of the information and fully digest it so thank you for doing the footwork on that. Transparency helps bring trust to companies and brands, which is important if you want to keep your business afloat. How can people get excited about something they don't understand from a company or brand that isn't telling people *why* they should be excited? If you aren't excited about what changes you are making to improve the situation, why should we be?
@jujubeansoup
2 ай бұрын
This is fucking awful. There is no way to ensure that the best teams are going to international events. I mean NA isn't the strongest region but we have consistently beat CBLOL and LLA but now potentially the second best team from LCS, which could be better than the top teams from the south, will miss out on international events and it waters down the international competition. And it goes both ways. If CBLOL is better then LCS then they should go too. I want the best competition and this isn't it.
@Raxiums
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, the whole conferences thing is dumb. If they want to merge the LCS, LLA and CBLOL into one big Americas region, fine, but make them all play each other and earn their spots. If that means CBLOL or LLA teams don’t make it to international events, well they didn’t earn it. If they do, then they do deserve it. Like, what is the point of merging it without actually merging it?
@ClickHere4Naruto
2 ай бұрын
I want the best competition and this isn't it. - So why the fuck is NA at the tournament lmao
@mrboobo3436
2 ай бұрын
@@Raxiums Why not merge all regions if you really want the best of the best. I mean no NA teams will ever go again but you'll see the best teams there.
@jakobkristensen7024
2 ай бұрын
By that logic then the west should not be getting any seeds at all anyway. The point of an INTERNATIONAL event is to see multiple nationalities represented. It is not to create a super-league of the very best teams.
@liammckenna1479
2 ай бұрын
2nd best from NA would only miss out on MSI
@DinoDisguised
2 ай бұрын
Hey Travis, I completely agree with all of your negative points and imo as an NA viewer, this is kinda bullshit. I hate that this whole conference thing is being forced on us and that we are being forced to downsize. (Especially in International Tournaments) I just see zero world where NA and SA are competitive at all (expect maybe LOUD) and don't see why they didn't make North America and South America as separate regions. We could still fight them for tournament spots, but I don't think they belong together. I feel like at the very least the LCS branding is dead, but I'm pretty frustrated with this whole thing.
@hamt0z
2 ай бұрын
14:58 There is evidence that Brazil is doing well in eSports, but not in the competitive aspect. Today, Brazil has the third-largest audience for League (sometimes even surpassing Korea and ranking second), and the numbers for CBLOL keep growing, unlike the LCS. So I think it is fair to Brazil have equal slots like USA.
@RobGoldy
2 ай бұрын
RIP LCS. This will be the final nail in the coffin.
@lamp007
2 ай бұрын
My League of Legends Journey: I started playing League in college after years of avoiding the game for years even as close friends tried to get me into the game, but I saw how addicted they were to the game, and wanted to avoid it even though it would have been fun to all play together. I later got a girlfriend and by friends got her into League, and then she convinced me to give the game a try, so I did. I enjoyed the game and started playing almost daily between classes with friends and my girlfriend (now wife). Eventually one of my friends (who was a big TSM Fan) introduced me to pro-play with the start of Worlds where I later rooted for CLG, TSM, DIG, CLG EU, Najin Sword (because there name was cool) and Later TPA (underdogs). I remember there were lots of pauses and such which was fine besides the song was really catchy (now known as Silver Scrapes). I really appreciated when Riot came out later and was transparent about the technical difficulties they endured during the tournament, it was a breath of fresh air. I felt the transparency was nice change from the fake corporate gaslighting of usual and I trusted the company due to their transparency. Then after Worlds I wanted to see more of the game, and heard about a young up and coming team called Quantic Gaming (who later became Cloud9) and started watching there games and instantly became fans of theirs. OG Cloud9 was the first team where I liked all the players, and my then girlfriend would also watch with me. For years I watched all EU and NA games from start of EU through the end of NA (yes almost all of my weekends were spent watching League). I then would watch every single Hotline League episode, don’t think I missed a single one (throughout this whole point) although I never called in. After the EU changes I would only watch a few teams from the EU (FNC and G2). Then COVID-19 hit, and it took Riot a lot longer than even traditional sports to begin Streaming LCS, which was weird since they are an online based game. But then DoubleLift, and Bjergsen both retired and Sneaky was kicked off Cloud 9, or retired? 🤷🏿♂️ who even knew at this point. At this point I didn’t know if I even wanted to continue watching League anymore (at this point my wife had quit watching already). I held onto hope based on rumors from Hotline League that Sneaky was in talks and would likely be on another team. Then when I heard that the talks had fallen through started feeling kind of ambivalent about the LCS. Soon after I felt a glimmer of hope when I found out that Evil Geniuses was assembling a group with Vulcan who I was a fan of, Impact, and taking a chance on 2 upcoming rookies. Started getting kind of hyped since teams don’t really give NA players much of a chance to make it onto a team, which seems kind of ridiculous as a NA League, and especially seeing as the only teams that have done well internationally were built from a majority of NA players. I became fans of the two EG rookies and especially with the Danny, Pentakill game saving play. Sadly Danny never came back to the league and at this point I believe there was a new commissioner who I was reluctantly optimistic about. But one of the first things she was to implement was weekday LCS claiming it would increase viewership from the decreasing LCS viewership. Felt like more negative news was pilling up and that they were setting her up to fail. Then the news came out that the reason the weekDAYS change was to appeal to other regions timezones and convenience and had nothing to do with the NA viewers that had been longtime fans (yes they slightly moved the time a bit later in the day). But with the rumors of every team at the time pushing for the removal of the import rule, Riot firing the guy that helped implement the import rule. And then now the movement of the LCS to weekdays it felt like Riot was doing everything to kill the LCS, and the dissolving of Academy leagues. It just felt like multiple slaps in the face like Riot no longer cared for either NA players or NA viewers. With all of this, if Riot didn’t want me watching then I might as well oblige, especially since even the pro-players felt bland and seemed to not care for fans anyways. So then I quit watching League all together but would check in on hotline league videos and Travis clips from time to time. I still would play league to get the Victorious Skin for reaching gold. I watched the videos of MarkZ as commissioner and had a bit of hope in giving the LCS and pro play a try again, even though I couldn’t care less about most of the pro players. I watched a few games of the finals, along with a few NA games from international tournaments. When I found out about the Vanguard rootkit requirements to play league, as a privacy minded person I took it as the last straw, the company was no longer the transparent company they once were. They were the same as every other shitty and creepy corporation. But every once in a while though I watch one of Travis’ video to see what made news. After watching this video I really hope Travis is looking more into diversifying his content because although Riot’s suits keep reiterating that they are not trying to kill the LCS it sure seems like besides hiring MarkZ they are quietly killing off the LCS. Seems like the same tactic they used to kill off the Tier 2 league scene.
@MrMitty
2 ай бұрын
Less slots at worlds and MSI for NA is a major L expect people to stop watching entirely due to this.
@stevensutton16
2 ай бұрын
NA getting completely shit on to let a far inferior product take one of their slots in every tournament is nuts.
@NoriGuro
2 ай бұрын
This year has been the most LCS I've watched in years because the quality of the games felt great to watch. As long as the league continues to look competitive regionally, I'm pretty excited to see how this could shake things up. And an extra tournament is just a cherry on top! It almost feels like riot is trying to see what the community thinks first by not covering it with all the full details. They could always tweak things as we get closer to next year. I'm excited to see how it goes.
@LattWest
2 ай бұрын
Why would Mark do this? On a more serious note, I hope at the very least we get hype North vs South matchups often. Hopefully LCS isn't the top heavy conference and CBLoL can compete. It would be a shame if Brazil's #1 is worse than North America's #3 or 4.
@Motelles
2 ай бұрын
This feels like the hunger games for everyone in the region. just a total free for all to see who can stay in the industry and who gets chopped :(
@CrazyCatMan13
2 ай бұрын
me: i support all LCS teams! Travis: two must go me: please be IMT and DIG.
@soru_-_
2 ай бұрын
DIG > Shopify
@captaindomedes2605
2 ай бұрын
Here's my two cents as a fan who has become disillusioned from the LCS. I would actually just prefer an outright merger of all Americas regions even if that only means 10 total teams. If there were fewer teams with a larger recruiting pool then maybe we could actually have a regional identity again while staying competitive, even if that region would be bigger. It's just so hard to root for teams that constantly cycle through has-been talent from other regions. Give me 10 teams with a mix of the top NA, CBLOL, and LatAm players and I'd happily root for them. It may be hard to justify what would be a necessary move to the east (Orlando/Miami maybe?), but that would put it in the exact center of the region in terms of time zones. Not to mention most of the US is in the east anyways.
@ClickHere4Naruto
2 ай бұрын
So because you want a good regional identity you're going to kill the regional identity to do it. Regions whos views are almost all regional identity (As they don't perform internationally) are going to be ruined because you think it would fix regional identity. Cmon man.
@gregpartridge7554
2 ай бұрын
I have no faith in the orgs to build good teams, even if they have all the players available. And certainly not to stop rotating through washed EU and Korean players. IMO more teams gives us better odds that a few of them get it right.
@tonthax
2 ай бұрын
no offense to the south american teams, but the conference finals are going to be blowouts every time, and the people we send to worlds arent going to be the best teams.
@SevTST
2 ай бұрын
If the games are still coming on around the same time then I dont really care that they're making these changes since I'd be watching regardless. The best case scenario is that we end up with a more competitive system, with the Souths talent matching the Norths. Worst case is that everything is basically exactly how it is now, just with play-in team for the North. Hopefully, with promotion/relegation comes more support for the tier 2 systems. I dont expect it, but it'd be nice.
@auramaster13
2 ай бұрын
NA has won the last 2 BO5 vs Europe 3/1 in dominant series but we lose a seed to Brazil and LEC gets to keep their seeds. This sucks.
@Pofiveddie
2 ай бұрын
Won 2 bo5s won’t make you a better region. You just lost to pcs.
@minime1988
2 ай бұрын
@@Pofiveddie NA is better H2H against EU right now and LEC's current best team got curb stomped by TL so it's not like EU is any different then NA probably very similar skill levels right now despite EU having like 4x or more the player base to pull from they still fail to accomplish anything but keep coping I guess.
@slime_molder-qt6jz
2 ай бұрын
Latam really got hurt the most here I feel. Excited that Brazil will be essentially getting a boost though, I think that's a place we could get some exciting growth.
@woofpack3
2 ай бұрын
Re: 12:19 North America vs Brazil was a massive rivalry in legends of runeterra before riot shuttered the tier 1 competition for the game
@Madara__Uchiha
2 ай бұрын
You’re exactly right Travis, North America just lost our entire identity. This is a huge blow, feel pretty shitty about all of this honestly.
@ItsOctoberr
2 ай бұрын
How did they think this was a good decision? This will just cause a bigger cash deficit between the top teams and the teams who are not as good. Less leagues, less championships to be won, less prize money to be won, also less teams now going to international events which is taking away the opportunity for lesser teams to make big cash wins. How are they going to reimburse Japanese teams who had the chance to play for $77,000 etc...
@mrboobo3436
2 ай бұрын
There will be more games, more international events, more money available for each team.
@Notabot12377
2 ай бұрын
Hate so much about this. Finally started breathing in the NA hopium and now I'm considering quitting league again. Why would you do this when the LCS final got some air back in its lungs. Why are we subsidizing these minor regions as the second largest league market?
@sennit
2 ай бұрын
I also am catiously optimistic. Less international slots sucks but a spotlight on tier 2 having a chance to make the old school miricle run with the return of promotion/relegation for the guest slot is a welcome return. Tier 2 needs more support and this feels like a chance to get it more attention.
@dookiehead-ll4jw
2 ай бұрын
Definitely seems like mostly terrible changes, I hope I'm wrong but I think there will be a small boost early on then just complete death and obscurity for the leagues involved in this merger.
@steeletarleton
2 ай бұрын
Something else to consider is there's a real chance we only lose 1 team initially since they'll need a team to fill the promotion relegation slot, so one might just get that slot for the first split
@klinkclang
2 ай бұрын
We have to lose two teams regardless of that change because we are staying at 8 teams in the LCS but we are gaining 2 LLA teams, right?
@EtheriealENE
2 ай бұрын
Sadge life as ive been a LCS fan for so long, so many changes... a change of an Era. Lets hope for the best!
@varelasensei
2 ай бұрын
I wanted a merge but not like this...
@HoyaDon
2 ай бұрын
I'm not fully understanding promotion and relegation. Will the guest slot have to fight for their position every year no matter what, even if they someone win the split? Or will the bottom team in Tier 1 always have to fight to stay in league (i.e. traditional promotion/relegation format)? Can anyone shed light on this?
@XionTheSylveon
2 ай бұрын
Should be 8th place always fights to stay.
@Name-yo6lf
2 ай бұрын
They will probably have to fight for their place in the league regardless of result, since the rest of the teams have literally paid to be part of the league. Unless Riot will buyout all the slots which I don't believe feasible.
@cpt_mookie
2 ай бұрын
Competitive League in regions outside of KR and CH is dying, and this is not the play.
@Pegasisbey
2 ай бұрын
But more people will watch, so it is the play for viewers.
@Darkstormsun9865
2 ай бұрын
@@Pegasisbeyno they won't. They are just moving everyone to the same stream. The numbers will be the same
@ClickHere4Naruto
2 ай бұрын
Well Brazil was growing. EU is doing fine too, sure LLA and LCS were dying but LCS was slowly stabilizing
@tylerdavisson355
2 ай бұрын
@@Darkstormsun9865 if not less, as a whole the league is a lot less interesting. The only rivalry they're forcing is one that never existed. They would have been better off with just cutting the number of teams in NALCS down and stopping there. It would have sucked, but it's better than the shit they're trying to do.
@asd316x
2 ай бұрын
@@Pegasisbeyim gonna stop watching, because i dont give a shit about LLA and CBLOL, i want to see NA teams compete internationally
@SquidGains
2 ай бұрын
This is a bummer. Can't see this ending well down the road but we will see.
@BrendanZanitCoen
2 ай бұрын
So while getting rid of playins, they gave one of the group spots to cblol taking it away from LCS. And gave APAC 3 WHOLE SPOTS? Tell me how this makes sense.
@lPuffalo
2 ай бұрын
My guess is that its because the valorant apac teams have really strong fanbases within their home countries and as a region. Riot wants to try and develop a LoL equivalent to PRX
@viniciuszanchetta6217
2 ай бұрын
we got nothing from na brother, you guys lost your own spot at worlds
@Hayte
2 ай бұрын
@@viniciuszanchetta6217your region has never even made it out of playins 😭
@OMiquelini
2 ай бұрын
It's basically LCS using CBLOL viewers to survive
@wesstrickland6986
2 ай бұрын
So North American teams have never lost to a South American team. So North America which already gets crap at international events we lose a slot to a wildcard team so that we can watch them get beat in 3 games and disappear. Would a North American team do the same? Sure historically but why not send the best three teams instead of forcing a Brazil team when we all know that they will not be able to compete with North Americas best three or four or five. This feels like a slap in the face to North American teams. I see some of our players leaving because they will not make it to world if they don’t get top 2 even if they deserve the slot over a Brazil team that may be like the 6th best “Americas” team.
@user-mw1rc6jx1b
2 ай бұрын
Yeah who knows - LEC "includes" Africa doesn't it? Does this open SA up to picking up NA talent w/o using an import?
@iNandez
2 ай бұрын
I think the argument that LatAm has never beat NA is a bad faith argument. LatAm has put up some competitive teams in the past. That got very rough scheduling at international tournaments. Let’s not forget that NA has never once won worlds, and iirc only one win at MSI. Combining the regions gives LatAm more practice against better teams which improves the region overall. It also makes NA have to actually be competitive to get more slots at international tournaments which we consistently underperform in. If NA wants those spots then we should earn them.
@TheIronMan728
2 ай бұрын
That's pure cap NA trashes these minor regions they suck@@iNandez
@iNandez
2 ай бұрын
Too bad you don’t understand the word competitive.
@wesstrickland6986
2 ай бұрын
@@iNandez so when has LatAm ever advanced from the wildcard groups? Never. NA has only not advanced once in that entire time. The fact we have not once won worlds does not change the fact that LatAm wins in this trade. NA doesn’t need to get better to prove they deserve the spots we have always shown we are better than any LatAm team so there is nothing more to be proven. All this does is take a better team out of worlds for a wildcard team. The stats show that
@mlm5150
2 ай бұрын
Plot twist, TSM is now a Brazilian team.
@jackphillips6742
2 ай бұрын
That would be super based
@jonathanluk4858
2 ай бұрын
That explains the new major region spot that TSM was planning to buy.
@obikiller1
2 ай бұрын
Tsm atleast got out with 10mil looks like a sinking ship
@MichaelP1234
2 ай бұрын
For NA I have 3 concerns: 1. LCS/NA players that speak english being replaced with SA players who dont speak any english and are more difficult to be fans of because of the language barrier. SA will be cheaper than NA players to get. 2. The new Latin American Team in LCS possibly not speaking english at all and/or possibly just being bad compared to other teams so they end up being last place and with no NA fans and just dont provide any value to the league. 3. LCS/NA now is no longer a major region and therefore only gets 1 garunteed worlds spot and competes for a 2nd. We previously had 3 garunteed worlds spots... NA no longer being a major region in itself and losing at least 1 and maybe 2 worlds spot really sucks. I think our joint Americas Major region should have gotten 4 worlds spots since we are so large and NA got dissolved and is no longer a major region in itself. So 2 garunteed NA worlds spots, 1 garunteed SA spot, and a 4th competed over. Then with that the South-Asia Pacific Major Region would get 2 Worlds spots instead of 3 (assuming they are getting 3 as a major region). South-Asia Pacific Region hasnt done enough to justify 3 worlds spots in my opinion unless Im missing something. Im sure China, Korea, and even Europe would bitch about the Americas region getting 4 Worlds spots to their 3 even though they are better. I understand that, but they didnt lose their status as a major region as well as they would be getting 3 garunteed spots to our 2. The most NA is getting is 3 spots anyways which is the same as them. They didnt lose anything with this change. NA is the only one lost here as far as the current major regions. NA went from 3 garunteed spots like Korea, China, and Europe to 1 garunteed...
@pn9043
2 ай бұрын
Why does this season now feel like when your favorite pet is dying so you let them eat some pizza maybe take them out to the beach right before you euthanize them. Not cool Riot.
@nahucirujano
2 ай бұрын
I'm from Argentina. Our region not only has been shutting down gradually (we have only 6 teams this split, so sad), but we are also ruining other regions now? We're really sorry. God, I wish I could forget that latam Teemo top from Worlds 2022.
@mtfkno
2 ай бұрын
I'm eager to see if the region restructure has an impact on the international performance for Americas South and APAC. PCS and CBLOL looked better than ever at MSI this year and as a long time LCS watcher, you can't tell me that our teams are ever consistently better than the PCS or CBLOL first seeds on their best days. LCS has had a lot of chances; sometimes we make them shine and sometimes they slip through our fingers. Hopefully this pushes our first seeds to work on consistency so they can use their opportunities well and continue to show their best internationally.
@crXssfire_
2 ай бұрын
Go back and watch some of those early LCS playoffs, circa 2014-2017, the war between TSM and CLG, Cloud9 in top form, so many awesome personalities and players, teams that had a chance at competing with the east. Now go watch the most recent GRAND FINALS for spring playoffs. theres like 75 people in the room MAX, theres no hype, no juice, the scenes dead and its been dead for a while, sadly. watch LEC for western LoL, ideally just watch LCK because the level of play is soooo much better and you still get an English broadcast. GG Riot you ruined competitive league in the cradle of its own inception. Sad but we will probably never get those days of OG LCS hype back.
@jacobcharter4331
2 ай бұрын
Feels like there shrinking it for cost and nothing else. Feels bad all around. They keep saying they aren't giving up on league but boy do their actions say otherwise. I feel so bad for Mark, he just spent a year trying to turn around the narrative and make lcs enjoyable again and now this basically craps on his hard work.
@Mockra_
2 ай бұрын
Guess it's time to call it quits after a decade, what a terrible change for LCS fans.
@HibijibiCraft
2 ай бұрын
The lcs will still be going. Now we even get to see them against international competition every split! There are some positives for sure
@DeeDiazH
2 ай бұрын
This actually might save LCS from the inevitable downfall. You are just taking the chance to validate the sentiment most people have towards the league.
@Jose-cr3zn
2 ай бұрын
I love a fearless draft competition. I love the merger between NA and Brazil and LLA I think it will help competition greatly. I hate this whole conference north south bs it seems so tedious and will ultimately not crown the best team I feel. Cool that the LCS is dying honestly it needs to be redone and a super merger would be the best result. If they made America's like the Chinese super server that would be ideal and get best results competitively. Sad only 16 teams between all 3 servers would love to see 24 or even 18 if they couldn't support 24 but between that many regions with actual active players you could support 24
@CrushedByBasilLeaf
2 ай бұрын
pretty disgusting the southern conference is getting a free slot when they are significantly weaker. I don't think a single CBLOL team has outperformed an NA 3rd seed
@milesedgeworth110
2 ай бұрын
Pain vs CLG look it up
@CrushedByBasilLeaf
2 ай бұрын
@@milesedgeworth110 they went 1-1. That is not outperforming. My point stands. Crazy that is the best CBLOL has done
@stormcamplin3753
2 ай бұрын
This seems like a net negative in almost every single way as an LCS Fan. I cannot imagine how badly this will destroy NA talent.
@chaddonaldson9171
2 ай бұрын
this is an utter disgrace. As an LEC and LCS fan, i cant believe this. So bonkers
@LuvNight
2 ай бұрын
Do we know if the LLA team can be relegated?
@pure1charman
2 ай бұрын
Nail in the coffin for me. I'm going to exclusivley watch NACL and and LPL/LCK. Why combine three regions that have less than 10% crossover in fandom. Makes no sense. Then dissolving a league entirley and forcing their two teams into other regions. I'm sure that will go great in NA twitch chat :). This doesn't even mention the costs for these teams. Riot is going to force two teams to move to different regions where they will have to essentially restart their fan bases, all while being in an enviornment that is typically toxic to anyone not native to NA. Doesn't sound like a good business move for the teams. Wouldn't be surprised to see them dissovled shortly after. This is looking soley like the new head of riot americas just wants to put his stamp on the scene, no thought for the native fans of any region.
@Raxiums
2 ай бұрын
The worst part is they aren’t really even combined. The conferences mean NA and SA will basically never play each other outside of probably some sort of World Series type match with the NA winner vs SA winner. If they want to merge the regions, don’t do this conference BS and just make them all play in the same league.
@ClickHere4Naruto
2 ай бұрын
@@Raxiums Actually the same league was the absolute worse scenario. You're killing Brazil who is a bigger regional and a lot of their popularity is from within Brazil with their amazing events. You can't run a regular season in both LA and Brazil so you're telling them to go fuck themselves. You then have to think about wages, Brazil wages nowhere near the same, if you're in the same league the NA teams will be paying way more. Everything about a proper merger is awful for Brazil and "OK for NA".
@Gevorest
2 ай бұрын
Do we know if there's any cross-conference play outside of the msi qualification? Visiting matches, or something during playoffs?
@berksterb8475
2 ай бұрын
Damnit, I would’ve been stoked if the north/south regions actually played each other regularly. Brazil has a cool league, and even if they aren’t presently up to LCS teams, I am sure they would improve fast with better competition. But when it’s basically just an extra tournament against CBLOL prior to international events, what’s the point? Feels like the worst of both worlds. I had thought they would be trying to bring the CBLOL fanbase into the LCS (and vice-versa). This doesn’t feel like a real merger, just a downsizing.
@pitlessboy3430
2 ай бұрын
Thank you for you coverage of all of this Travis, always appreciated insight on what's going on.
@NiyaCathrel
2 ай бұрын
Glad I always know where to come to get timely updates on these things. Thank you Travis!
@captaindeaddaddy9413
2 ай бұрын
I’m cautiously optimistic about the changes as well but I’m mainly a global fan. I do know NA talent better than the other regions and cheer for them at international events, but as long as the “South American” conference is competitive with the “North American” conference, I won’t really miss the extra NA team at events. It would suck if our “league finals” is just easy sweeps against Brazil so I do really hope it’s competitive between the two eventually. The guest slot is great, something to make the pros more competitive like the money weeks coming up in the NACL. No one wants to be relegated haha. Idc if it’s fearless or another system, I want more champ diversity in games so I’m excited by that becoming more prevalent.
@SyphroPlays
2 ай бұрын
I would rather see 4 teams from each region at Worlds. Also maybe a 3-Conference-League for the Americas, 8 teams each, maybe 16 teams for the year-end tournament.
@sticksna9667
2 ай бұрын
I think I resonate with your thoughts: an overall, cautious optimism. I like that they are making changes and I think this can poise them to add to the leagues as/if revenue continues to grow. We could be back up to 10 team conferences within the next 3 years if they find a way to make the leagues profitable. That’s my thought at least!
@trevorromney3589
2 ай бұрын
The idea that LLA players are resident players in either conference is another positive. You could look at a player like Brance or Cody as a really good pickup if you want to develop a resident player. Using an import slot like that was just never going to be a good idea prior. (Aside from Josedeodo. He had a few interesting splits, and a few bad ones. The time that GG brought in a couple of LLA players for their mega-budget roster, I remember it being a pretty crushing thing for those players.) The "Snakerman" bot lane would be a move akin to when CLG fielded Luger/Poome as a starter, and it worked well. I guess seeing this on a negative scale would be that if the Southern Conference wasn't competitive, they've just become an academy league...
@loganmahoney2284
Ай бұрын
I think this just goes to show people didnt appreciate how special LCS S3 was. Literally a mindblowing esports development. Honestly it sounds like a good change overall. I do think there needs to be a bigger focus on the amateur scene for NA. But with the current state of LoLEsports this honestly seems an exciting move.
@_OldGrandpa
2 ай бұрын
Good summary, thanks. There are pros and cons, but my concern is losing more LCS players who are building up their brand and fan base. If Tier 2 was more financially viable, the whole situation would be better, since players would have a backup option to LCS.
@chrisjohnson2144
2 ай бұрын
I have watched lcs since season 4 and I’ve also been watching vct since valorant came out, I think their format is very exciting and I am pumped for the fresh new changes.. remember guys riot fixes league mistakes in valorant, maybe this is that?
@fcz34
2 ай бұрын
NA never had the we are NA feel with all the imports.
@XXANDERALEXX
2 ай бұрын
It was a matter of time until the LLA died 😢
@matchfather3763
2 ай бұрын
The LLA has been dead for years
@gustavomoreira516
2 ай бұрын
the LCS was also a matter of time
@trevorromney3589
2 ай бұрын
Questions I have (I understand you likely don't fully know. I just wanna put them out there.): 1. If the LATAM spot is last place in the northern conference, can they be relegated out? (sub question: Are team slots being relegated out? Or is only that guest slot in peril of relegation?) 2. Shouldn't worlds attendance be merit based? Why would we send a LATAM team in one of our worlds slots if they aren't a top 3 team in the region? (sub question: Why wouldn't we just hold a two-conference qualifier tournament, and send the best 3, regardless of conference?) 3. Are previous developing regions like Turkey/Russia etc now just part of EU? (sub question: Is EU gaining slots for teams from these regions / gaining conferences?) Forgive me if this one is off base. I really only watch the semifinals and on for EU. I'm not well versed on their ecosystem. 4. Are we concerned that this new international event may be tied to the previously expressed concerns around Saudi Arabia?
@andeythomas7534
2 ай бұрын
I think I echo a lot of the sentiments in this video. A change of this magnitude is difficult to fully evaluate, but I can see a path forward from this that builds a more exciting international league of legends esports scene. I'm cautiously optimistic as well, and I hav confidence that things will end well if Riot finds a way to maintain the strong identities of teams/regions that are changing while helping them find a space in this new ecosystem.
@PokeRedstone
2 ай бұрын
Imho, conferences work when deciding a single best team. It doesn’t work as well when deciding the best group of teams to send to a larger event. I expect Worlds to be better in this regard, but if one of the conferences has a better top end, then the representatives heading to MSI could be skewed.
@colin5197
2 ай бұрын
So is the LCK changing their format? Because the problem with adding a 3rd international before was mostly due to the difference in formats internationally.
@durtydessertz4341
2 ай бұрын
this is embarrassing for our region
@tylermilek3166
2 ай бұрын
I worry that dedicated fans for the LCS are going to really hurt from this. In my house, I am a C9 fan and my girlfriend is a FLY fan. We don't follow other regions. Even though the outlook was grim, we always could cheer on each other for international events and in other matches. Now, there isn't really a chance we both can go international, kinda in worlds. Feels bad as a dedicated fan of the LCS in my opinion. Going to take time to adapt if we can.
@santiagoley6403
2 ай бұрын
LCS died a long time ago, at some point the orgs became corporations, life and creativity was sucked out of LCS until we were left with generic comps and standard gameplay for the most part. - A fan from season 3 to season 12
@travisace
2 ай бұрын
Seems like franchising for esports have been a pretty bad idea. Not just for league but other games as well.
@evanmashack8242
2 ай бұрын
I would like if there were more cross over between tier 1and tier 2 in LCS. That would drive a lot more interest to both leagues. Not sure why we’re “importing” teams from South America instead.
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