This speaks to me. I was masterfully groomed by my female Christian school teacher at an IFB church. Hearing her story helped so much. From the time I was 12 until 18 she sexually abused me. I sued her and the church and just settled this past month. It took years to fight them. I couldn’t speak up until I was in my 40’s and had my own children. The more you tell your story, the more shame is dispelled and it gives others the strength to step forward.
@0.7hujhyh
3 ай бұрын
So you feel good now that you sued and got money? Thats sad
@suzie7090
3 ай бұрын
@@0.7hujhyhNo, I’m sure she feels good because by settling the church & the predator admitted they were at fault. Innocent people don’t pay. She carried this shame until she was vindicated. Please do some research on the psychology of what a victim of molestation has to deal with their whole life so you don’t make anymore insensitive comments.
@bryanbutler777
3 ай бұрын
@@0.7hujhyhYou’re a monster.
@0.7hujhyh
3 ай бұрын
@@bryanbutler777Im a Christian
@0.7hujhyh
3 ай бұрын
@@suzie7090i get that but im just thinking to myself that God repays people and I dont need the church to acknowledge their wrongdoing. I know it was wrong and God knows it was wrong and I move on. Jesus took our shame away
@melissasapp3929
3 ай бұрын
My father was a deacon & abused my sister & me all our lives. Disgusting. Neither of us told the other until I found out he abused my 9 year old daughter. I broadcast it, we confronted him, & forced him in to treatment. Tore our family apart. I forgave him but relationships ended. I ended up being a nurse & for 28 years helped victims become survivors. God planned every step of my wonderful professional career. I give God all the glory.🙏🙏🙏🙏
@kevinevans8892
3 ай бұрын
Wow may the Lord heal you and your daughter and sister
@KristyRamirezgomez
3 ай бұрын
Why would you allow him near your daughter!?
@jjgems5909
3 ай бұрын
That’s what I was thinking. I would have cut all ties after I turned 18 and was out of the house.
@IntelligentQuotient-s6g
3 ай бұрын
@@KristyRamirezgomez I had the same question! Why allow him around her daughter? What is wrong people! I will never understand it. The relationship ended after he abused her 9-year-old daughter...did she forget what he did to her or something? I am so confused as to why she thought it was a bright idea to let her daughter alone with him?
@bethrowbottom5897
3 ай бұрын
@@melissasapp3929 I’m so sorry Melissa. It’s time that these predators be forced into the light to pay for their crimes. I’m 54 now, but as a child, sexual crimes were swept under the rug. Not anymore.
@allysondoerfler2435
3 ай бұрын
She was a child; it was a crime. She can forgive him, God can forgive him, but there are temporal consequences for crime, and it should be ESPECIALLY true when the victim is a CHILD.
@isaacjackson2770
3 ай бұрын
100%
@deb1358
3 ай бұрын
Yes 💯 absolutely horrible to see comments blaming her when she was a child! These people call themselves Christians. Wow.
@dahj5954
3 ай бұрын
The father had years to bring it to light and didn’t.
@deb1358
3 ай бұрын
@dahj5954 the family tried for years but it fell on deaf ears until recently.
@OdinLeatherGoods
3 ай бұрын
It seems like she wasn’t even sure she was abused for a long time. The time in which it took her to process the events, have no impact on his accountability. Just because you rob someone, and they don’t report it, doesn’t mean you didn’t commit a crime. The victim is not responsible for the abuser. The victims actions or lack of action has no bearing on if the event(s) was a crime or not, or if there should be accountability.
@dianasimplifies
2 ай бұрын
There should be no statute of limitations on child molestation or child rape PERIOD
@angelawindom4711
2 ай бұрын
Not for ANYONE!!!!!
@dianasimplifies
2 ай бұрын
@@angelawindom4711 I agree. I wish they would just get rid of statute of limitations on all crimes.
@forestgump8357
2 ай бұрын
Exactly, if you take advantage of a child sexually, if it is proven, there should be no statute of limitation at all. This man should be headed for jail.
@angelawindom4711
2 ай бұрын
@@dianasimplifies Yes. If you do you know the consequences if they are felonies there shouldnt be a limit!
@2B34ever
2 ай бұрын
In Australia there no longer is. In ninety five I fought the " statute of limitations" all the way to the Supreme Court. It cost me thirty five thousand dollars, but well worth it. Not only my abuser was convicted but many other since then.
@LyndaRicks
3 ай бұрын
I was molested as a 6/7 year old child by a cousin & my mom just passed last year at 89 & supported my cousin until she died. This is why I only trust God!!!
@susangoodman1650
3 ай бұрын
So sorry for that deep betrayal by your mom. I pray you can heal and forgive. Perhaps she was a victims as well.
@janiefender
3 ай бұрын
I am so sorry
@LyndaRicks
3 ай бұрын
@@janiefenderthank you.
@yvonnerahui8729
3 ай бұрын
Very troubling to hear that your mum lived so long & clearly never acknowledged your distressing time. Your cousin got away with what he did & she enabled him. I'm sorry for what you've been through. I hope you know the love of Jesus in your life.
@laurabennet7693
3 ай бұрын
I understand. I've been in a similar situation. 🙏
@karendelgado203
Ай бұрын
Sexual abuse is not a “mistake”. It is a sin and a crime. It was the leadership’s duty to report this to the authorities. If the perpetrator was truly repentant then he would have turned himself in and accepted the consequences.
@PaulBrawl-lc7gz
Ай бұрын
That is true, before I committed to good and God and the Bible at 17-18, I started repenting confessing and desiring to make restitution, does it look like Morris was seeking to make things right with this woman? And Morris amazingly was our teacher on how to hear from the Holy Spirit or for him maybe the unholy one.
@danilodelrosario6448
3 ай бұрын
I pray for complete healing for both of them and their respective loved ones.
@paulan7218
3 ай бұрын
I pray he actually realizes the damage he did to that girl because he has yet to actually admit what he’s done. He has danced around it and he has minimized, but he has not admitted it.
@simplyandoime7344
3 ай бұрын
I pray for justice to be done because it will usher in complete healing. They have been praying for years but without JUSTICE there is no peace.
@AE-pv9vc
3 ай бұрын
@simplyandoime7344 i've yet to see the 'harbingers of justice' bring either justice or peace. Meanwhile, mercy and grace are not 'fair,' nor 'warranted,' but are not unjust. Consider those attributes before calling for a warpath. Pray for the offender and the offended to be healed and to know the fulness of forgiveness.
@debfox
3 ай бұрын
@@AE-pv9vc the offended doesn’t need to be forgiven of ANYTHING! They did NOTHING wrong! Stop minimizing other people’s trauma. Period! The fact that so many are okay with what he did shows that it’s no wonder why people don’t come to Christ. He would go to the victim! I hope she heals. NONE OF THIS IS HER FAULT!!
@rohtati1020
3 ай бұрын
@@debfox You just missed the entire point‼️🤦🥴
@FocusedSojourner
3 ай бұрын
Correction! A 12 yr old is NOT a lady. That is a 12 year old CHILD. Not a young "Lady". An 18/20 yr old is a "young lady" .
@debrad8165
3 ай бұрын
yes
@debrad8165
3 ай бұрын
when you see a child as a lady, you are already perverted.
@yvonnerahui8729
3 ай бұрын
Islamic wouldn't agree..their great Mohammed married a 8 or 9 year old!!
@ncm9366
3 ай бұрын
Yes they are a child in age ...but THESE 12-18 YEARS OLD KNOW right from wrong! And build like Jessica Rabbit... It just didn't turn out the way she wanted...,.4 years ? As a mom I wouldn't let my daughter go get "ice cream " for 4 years with a 20 year old married man! Come on! I'm sad for her she has not healed, she needs to heal too, and move on...what does she want exactly? Did he ever apologize to her during this time , cause they were still communicating after all these years, no way I would be communicating with the man that raped me! It's all sick ...PRAYING FOR THEM ALL!
@LevarHoskins
3 ай бұрын
@@FocusedSojourner if she's past the flower of her youth let them marry...what does that mean in the scriptures?
@raquelallard7650
2 ай бұрын
Why did your father, a Pastor not report it? You're talking about leadership, why didn't your dad do anything? Have you forgiven your father?
@qfrazier1358
3 ай бұрын
You are a beautiful woman and God knows what you have gone through. May God continue to give you strength and show you HIS Love. People will fail but God never does! Thank you for sharing. Kids are so vulnerable and need us to protect them.
@SaltandLight70x7
3 ай бұрын
I went to Gateway Church and went through all the stages of grief behind it. I hope everyone gets the healing they need, especially Cindy. I'm happy she's speaking out.
@girlygirl1890
3 ай бұрын
@SaltandLight What are you saying by saying "I went through all the stages of grief behind it." That is such a general statement and really doesn't say much.
@cl5080
3 ай бұрын
You’re not just “rocking their boat,” you are ROCKING THEIR IDOLATRY. Thank you for exposing them!
@CaroleSusan
3 ай бұрын
Spot on!!!! Truth!!
@laurenfromdownsouth
3 ай бұрын
The idolatry of money, reputation, legacy and prestige! Despicable to put that before a child or victim!!!
@gailsharpe7802
3 ай бұрын
@@laurenfromdownsouth Totally agree!
@brianmr.unbreakablewarren5995
3 ай бұрын
Amen
@reggie4Jesus
3 ай бұрын
Yeeees they are and morris wrote a book about idolatry
@Orsmamy
3 ай бұрын
I am a 55 years old woman. I was molested by my female teacher at the age of 9 during a year. My entire life is such a mess. Relationship and family problems, guilty and shame. I only was able to speak 50 years later. But now i cannot go to the Police, because she is dead! We need more women to speak and LOUD!
@Faji9r
3 ай бұрын
We need to receive our healing and deliverance from Jesus Christ. We shouldn’t look back if we believed in Jesus.
@jenniewebb374
3 ай бұрын
@@Faji9r or take cues from Oprah
@RennyT78
3 ай бұрын
Cindy, you didn’t deserve what you went through. Thank you for sharing your story. So many people have gone through similar experiences but are not able to speak out. You are a voice for many. May the Lord use you to bring healing to many hurting hearts. God bless you.❤
@rhondag8759
2 ай бұрын
I was 4 the first time I was molested and I TOLD! I was 8 the next time and 2 men went to prison because I TOLD! It dosent matter what they say you always tell. By the way I was 12 the next time and I told then too. I am a strong Christian woman and I don't know the names if those men now that I am 70 but I forgave them long ago and had no counciling save the word of God. May you be blessed
@turicke6751
3 ай бұрын
Thank God she is speaking out! It reminds me to NEVER get too comfortable when my kids are at church and involved in various activities. I need to ALWAYS keep an eye out ask questions look for possible clues and to ALWAYS pray for God’s protection. Thank you for sharing. So many lives can be changed bc of ur story.
@charlynewilliams5189
21 сағат бұрын
I truly don't understand why the Father didn't pursue criminal charges. The outcome would have been better!
@redemptiveplan111
3 ай бұрын
Thank you Cindy for coming out and speaking what has happen to you. Praying for you and thank you again for bringing truth.
@toddmatelski4650
3 ай бұрын
Let’s not forget that her parent knew and did nothing. No police involvement. Bringing this up without lumping them into this whole thing is just as bad.
@jenrichele
3 ай бұрын
All I can think of is that her parents may have not wanted to put their daughter through more trauma with a trial and all that.
@toddmatelski4650
3 ай бұрын
@@jenrichele yes I can understand that. The problem is if there was a time to prosecute him it was then. Also he already went through church discipline and restoration for 2 years. This was 35 years ago and as far as I know he has not done anything since. The decision to ruin someone over something he already paid the price for is terrible. Not to mention what it does to Gateway and all the great work they do all over the world and for the community. Just because you didn’t like the punishment given all those years ago. She has been an adult for some time why now is what I am asking.
@LovedbyJesus101
3 ай бұрын
@@toddmatelski4650Morris is being Chastised by God, not Cindy Clemeshire. He has amassed a fortune of over 100 million dollars through his books and ministry. He never once in all these years sought to compensate her for her suffering and he was NOT honest with the church about her. If he had been honest, they would never have let him continue in leadership, as he would be unfit according to the Bible. All sins can be forgiven, but some bar you from leading the flock. He tried to deceive Holy Spirit like Ananias and Sapphira from the book of Acts.
@ms.weaver5746
3 ай бұрын
Exactly! He was punished by the church over 30 years ago. @@toddmatelski4650
@christinegray-gb8hl
3 ай бұрын
Why wait until pastor Morris is getting ready to retire. I’m sure money will exchange hands. He has brought me closer to Jesus than anyone. I have forgiven him, just as God’s
@mariaesparza7733
3 ай бұрын
She expresses such Grace! Stay strong Cindy, many prayers are being lifted up for you and your family! 🙏❤️🫶
@vickinagy8066
3 ай бұрын
Opra isn't one I would listen to
@RockyTop85
3 ай бұрын
That and not being in a local church is telling
@deborahbrinkley3623
2 ай бұрын
So why didn’t “your family” take you as a 12 year old little girl to the police department to file charges? They were responsible to do that! They didn’t. Why?
@susanma3483
3 ай бұрын
Cindy you spoke so well. Women appreciate you for sharing your story. Shame comes in for many reasons. I admire you for speaking up. God bless you. 🇨🇦
@diannemcmullen8681
3 ай бұрын
What needs also to be said is that there are thousands of faithful pastors who have been true shepherds to their congregation.
@raquelrivera7343
3 ай бұрын
Yes please
@danilaroche1156
3 ай бұрын
Yes. I was victim of cohersion & sexual assault and the pastor/elder helped and heard me.
@mymia731
3 ай бұрын
Yes, yes… not all men, not all pastors, not all Christians, not all… Now is not the place or time for you to defend those who don’t need defending and if you read the comments clearly it’s far too many people.
@diannemcmullen8681
3 ай бұрын
@@mymia731 So who died and made you king and speech monitor? 😉 Hello-it is still a free country last I checked. Do you see any news of pastors who are faithful and caring and..you get the picture. People need to be reminded there are good pastors because there are some very lost people who need the church but will use this to justify their belief that ALL pastors have hidden sins and will eschew attending a good church and the help the people have to offer. If you think they won’t you need to talk to more people…Or maybe you are one of those with that view?
@ThereIsFreedom777
3 ай бұрын
I was my molested at 4 yrs. old. The shame that came still lingers some...after much counseling. I wasn't able to even accept what happened until I was 60 yrs old...by then, my life was broken in me. No longer can these predators run. No longer can the victims remain silent. 😭 The church still hides behind it's fine robes & pulpits.
@brooklynkhloekelley4329
3 ай бұрын
And everyone of these loser women who is taking up for him….. I pray they get karma. Not sure where “God” is in all this , but I pray for Justice.
@timeday6420
3 ай бұрын
Love you may the Lord heal you and use you fro his glory
@jeanhowarth1852
3 ай бұрын
Mine was earlier.
@cassie2910
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your courage in continuing to come forward. You are blazing a trail for so many others.
@susanmarcus2782
3 ай бұрын
Praise God, thank you for speaking out. I know it’s healing for you to expose this. I was sexually abused by my father. But God are my favorite two Words!
@melodyjohnson9119
3 ай бұрын
Your father is vile, did you expose him
@susanmarcus2782
3 ай бұрын
@@melodyjohnson9119 Yes but no one believed me, not even my mother! But God, He healed me!
@valeriek7862
3 ай бұрын
You can tell that she has gone through extensive therapy to be able to bring this to light in such a calm and balanced well 🙏🤍 wishing her even more healing and closure 🙏
@user-zi3kd4td2f
3 ай бұрын
He should never be in a pulpit again. He should be in prison.
@celiarodriguez2999
3 ай бұрын
Cimdy is very brave and what has been exposed about Robert Morris is the fact that he has NOT repented.He is a hypocrite...since he has continued to be manipulative..and lying.I consider that Ronert Morris should Not be allowed to preach at ANY church.
@suzeyc5301
3 ай бұрын
His career as a pastor/teacher may be over
@tako-je-sunny
3 ай бұрын
@@suzeyc5301 It needs to be over.
@thegracemovement8325
3 ай бұрын
God heal you my Sister... You are loved and cherished. Stay strong.
@pegalina
3 ай бұрын
So grateful she has come forward and continues the process of healing. God bless her so much🙏🏼💗
@terrib4690
3 ай бұрын
For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad. Luke 8:17
@jeriannmahnich
3 ай бұрын
I was a part of GW for 17+ years… I want to hear from Debbie Morris!!! 😡
@charms85
2 ай бұрын
Cindy, thank you. So many of us have not said a word about these kind of circumstances. Yes, in God’s timing.
@kellycarey5663
3 ай бұрын
Amazing woman , so brave, keep healinv from narcissistic abuse as well
@AngelaRackley-z5d
3 ай бұрын
I pray for his family also.
@jenniewebb374
3 ай бұрын
please do - this is an attack of Jezebel.
@judystaab7126
3 ай бұрын
Why? Is she bringing this up? Now????? Why would she want to destroy a man why cant she forgive the man. This should have been broghtout much earlier.this should have been cleared up years ago. Its a shame.😮😢
@ThereIsFreedom777
3 ай бұрын
You obviously don't understand child molestation. The shame that comes drove me until I was 60 years old. Only then would someone listen. Let these wolves find their end.
@denisealee
3 ай бұрын
You clearly didn’t listen to her. They’ve been trying to get someone to listen for years. He is biblically disqualified from being any kind of pastor. Gateway Church should have never been planted.
@susangoodman1650
3 ай бұрын
Robert Morris failed to step down years ago. Please change your wording to.why didn’t Robert Morris?
@sarahfranks901
3 ай бұрын
This is horrible to say. If this man was truly repented he would have been completely honest. That’s like saying you shouldn’t be held accountable for a murder because it was a long time ago and you apologized. It is LEGALLY a crime to molest a child. You don’t understand get that?
@sandralira9376
3 ай бұрын
When was the.last time any of us co fussed to something truly shameful we have done? Guess The Home Depo is making a killing on the sale of their garden rocks. Lowell's too. Ace is bringing in a fresh batch. Every body get their pitching arm ready!
@sheliamartin9960
3 ай бұрын
It’s heartbreaking for her I know but Jesus forgives Morris too. It sounds like she has never forgiven Morris which she must do according to the word of God. Do Christians actually understand what forgiveness means??? I’m sorry but I cannot agree with her about totally and permanently discounting a preacher for a sin he committed over 40 years ago. My God, if that’s the case we’re all doomed.
@helenwhitfield8322
3 ай бұрын
I m praying for Her I totally agree she hasn’t really forgiven I was sexually abused by my father and stepfather and I’m able to walk in love towards my dad because of the love of God the Father has poured out into my heart because of that I’m not just a survivor but I’m thriving in my walk with Jesus and and now by focusing on my healer and restorer Jesus I’m able to help other who have experienced trauma and brokenness see Jesus above the the pain and trauma there is a healing balm His name is Jesus 🙌🏽🙌🏽❤
@geoffreyshubert2263
3 ай бұрын
Morris's personal relationship with Jesus is irrelevant to this. Her forgiving him is irrelevant. Her parents had a duty in my view to get justice for their daughter. He was not a child himself when he committed this crime. He was an adult accountable for his action and it is for those actions he needs to be called to account. Forgive me but it sounds as if you are making light of a crime against a child. How far does your forgiveness go? SO that ALL criminals are just forgiven? Or is it just for the sexual sins which men commit against children?
@sheliamartin9960
3 ай бұрын
@@helenwhitfield8322 Your story is same as mine.
@pennybushell9506
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comments. We must all sooo remember forgiveness, and that God requires mercy of us Jesus said. We need the reverential Holy fear of the Lord. And to remember there go I but for God's grace in our own life. We don't condone sin, but don't want to be throwing stones either. Thanks again for your comments and sharing. Bless.🙏🙏🙏
@joy-aminah1645
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comments.
@vasber1012
3 ай бұрын
This lady has cried many tears! 😪💔
@sandralira9376
3 ай бұрын
I am sorry I will not be sorry here. Don't worry about her. She can like Liberace cry all the way to the bank!
@SarahRose-p2l
3 ай бұрын
She wants to help others. And he wanted her to sign a shut up paper. A you can't talk about it paper. He can't do that!!!!!!
@kathyparadise9218
3 ай бұрын
Praying for Cindy and her family 😢My heart goes out to her. May she find peace and comfort.
@Chrisgray-df9qt
3 ай бұрын
Hello 👋Beautiful Lady 🌹..How are you and the weather condition like ?
@joshuamitchell5481
3 ай бұрын
Why did she not call the police?
@deborahlewis930
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your story. You have helped me. 🙏🏿🙏🏿
@annamarietaljaard1193
3 ай бұрын
May God keep her and protect her. She is a great lady telling the truth!!
@marthavigilramirez3294
3 ай бұрын
She is a true survivor. It didn't define who she is. God bless 🙏♥️
@lindaburton5941
3 ай бұрын
Thank you Cindy for your courage and strength! Your story has really triggered unresolved hurt in my life..I was 7 and raped by my sept brother… could not have children because of it…he lied too about the abuse making it out like we fulled around.. I am 69 now and still have triggers.. 😢 Speak out girl!!
@cherylfisher2707
3 ай бұрын
God bless you
@kerrymartin7557
3 ай бұрын
I'm so sorry you went through that.😢🙏🏼
@summerstardust2064
3 ай бұрын
Thanks Cindy for speaking up and exposing this criminal.
@cynthiarozyckie5702
3 ай бұрын
Since hearing of this truly gut-wrenching story ,my prayers for the "young lady" involved have been that she didn't hate God. I am so very thankful that Cindy has held her faith in a God who sees, knows, and holds to account. This made my day, and I am grateful for this news cast.
@deborabarros1159
3 ай бұрын
I am not in shock with all the scandals. I’ve been through the same. Thank God the idols are falling and we are finally looking to Jesus. HE NEVER FAILS. 🙏🏼
@iwasjustthinkingmeadows1994
3 ай бұрын
My brother was raped, I and my siblings beaten by a man in the church. When he and his wife would change churches, we would tell the ministry. We would get a lot of shock and then nothing. One pastor told my sister that this man was a tithes payer, she was not. I’m 68 now and this story SO triggers me. We’ve carried the shame and blame all of our life. No one protected us as children, no one cared enough about us to even confront him. My sister even contacted the FBI at one point because the church had appointed him where he had access to children and the leadership of yet another church did nothing. Our Mother stayed with him all the while till she passed away 2 years ago at 86 years old. I forgave him a long time ago, but I have lived with shame, self doubt, rejection, pain, isolation, and anxiety as well as my siblings, our whole lives. There is nothing that can replace what should have been our innocent childhood. And yes, we were a target, our father leaving this world at only 38 years old. I’m glad someone finally listened to this woman and made it known. It’s a lifetime sentence.
@Thereisonetruthandlight
3 ай бұрын
I'm so sorry you endured that. Your story is unfortunately very common
@adamflint2377
2 ай бұрын
At 61 I’m learning about projected identity. My father was a narcissist and he gave me the identity of “family scapegoat”. The target of his anger and shame has affected me my entire life. After decades I was trained to think I am a bad person and my entire family became his accomplices. I don’t let anyone close bc I’m afraid they’ll see that badness in me and start treating me the same way. I always thought it was my fault. It’s hard to put in in words but it’s a studied science with lifelong consequences. Type 1 insulin dependent diabetic since age 10 and completely disinherited.
@Soothe2SleepStoriesStewardess
2 ай бұрын
That’s tragic. I’m so sorry you had to go through that & no apologies from them nor honour from your family.😢
@ritaautrey4972
3 ай бұрын
Luke 12:2-3 What's done in secret will be brought to light
@mitsieholtshausen884
2 ай бұрын
Isaiah 43:25 I am HE who blots out your transgressions for MY own sake, and I will not remember your sins.” It's called repenting please let us know about your transgressions since 1987 so we can remind you daily.
@laurykristensen6239
2 ай бұрын
@@mitsieholtshausen884 Transgressions? Is that what the kids are calling r@pe and pedophilia these days?
@IAmMrRoss
2 ай бұрын
@@mitsieholtshausen884 Ignorant.
@shereef3823
2 ай бұрын
Amen.
@IAmMrRoss
2 ай бұрын
@@mitsieholtshausen884 Ignorant
@janrobinson-biggs310
3 ай бұрын
Those other Pastors should be held accountable if they were told it was a 12 year old and they did NOTHING !!
@thisdudeneedsanewps4637
3 ай бұрын
Should her parents and all the adults (uncles, aunts) that knew be held accountable? The blame should not only be placed on the elders.
@MM-dl1ik
3 ай бұрын
@@thisdudeneedsanewps4637The elders supposedly didn't know the age.
@RalphSmith-cj5he
3 ай бұрын
Be wary of Pastors, Politicians and Bankers....😂
@IntelligentQuotient-s6g
3 ай бұрын
@@MM-dl1ik and why? Because she and her parents hid her age...The parents failing to report this crime is a CRIME!
@nathanzaber
3 ай бұрын
No they shoudn´t be held accountable . The child´s parents should because they did nothing
@mhimnotthebee
3 ай бұрын
This women’s father should have called the police and have never let Robert Morris get away with abusing his daughter.
@EDD519
3 ай бұрын
if there is a time to LOSE your temper , it was then !
@andreasantiago7219
3 ай бұрын
For sure her parents FAILED her miserably.
@JoanneArc-or9sr
3 ай бұрын
Yes he a solutely should had
@alrettatolbert9212
3 ай бұрын
Right
@alrettatolbert9212
3 ай бұрын
Your father was out of order. He should have called the police immediately, immediately. That makes me very sad
@Patricia77700
3 ай бұрын
I heard someone say way back that The Lord would clean out His church first before He exposes the secrets in the world stage …it’s an encouragement that we’re getting closer to the end times✝️🙏🏻
@michaelmcdonald4073
3 ай бұрын
LOL
@jovitasanchez9648
3 ай бұрын
@@Patricia77700 amen, people get Jesus is coming soon we will be going home. That’s God’s promise to true faithful believers in Jesus Christ.
@marquitaarmstrong399
3 ай бұрын
Grab your scriptures
@vee10403
3 ай бұрын
This is true 🙌🏻
@pamelathack364
3 ай бұрын
Houston … 1960… pastor groomed… had multiple young boy victims. My brother taken to the YMCA in Dallas… later would cry and tell what his hero did to him … church of about 800 … multiple families wounded for life … I feel the pain … I’m 79 … tears for my family … we were noble to not talk about what happened… everyone suffered alone … Cindy’s ongoing recovery story was needful for all of us who were never heard … prayers for all who are still recovering .
@carley437
3 ай бұрын
As a person that was molested at the age of 11. Yes it affected me deeply and it stole my childhood . I always felt dirty and carried a spirit of shame. . At the age of twenty I met Jesus and was saved . Forgiveness and Love are powerful tools that heal. Forgiveness sets one free and love covers a multitude of sin. That's what our Lord Jesus did for everyone that chooses to believe .
@conniehadley1892
3 ай бұрын
Very well put.
@truthinthefaceoftyranny
3 ай бұрын
@@carley437 ..... yes, I am a survivor as well and I cannot relate to her desire to punish. I want my abusers to come to repentance and be delivered.... I pray for them always. Joyce Meyers also had to walk the same journey and forgive her father as well. It is difficult, but with Jesus it is possible.
@valerieirvin249
3 ай бұрын
Was this woman sexually abused as in intercourse?
@HairbyDomm
3 ай бұрын
Same !!
@christinemclatchie
3 ай бұрын
carley437 Jesus made all the difference to my life and brokenness, very similar experience to you… I know if it wasn’t for the Lord, I would not be on the planet… God is so good! ❤
@joeking433
2 ай бұрын
We wish you the best, Cindy! Remember, you're not alone, thousands of abuse victims are strengthened from your bravery!
@SelfLoveU
3 ай бұрын
Brave lady! Thank you for speaking out. I am shocked!!!
@rochellet1333
3 ай бұрын
It happens too many times.
@lavonnepatterson1327
3 ай бұрын
Every church leader who ignored this and mishandled this will be held accountable.
@tinaanderson200
3 ай бұрын
Yes smh
@brianmiller3287
3 ай бұрын
Don't hold your breath...
@brianmiller3287
3 ай бұрын
The way evangelicals cover up for other evangelicals is shameful.
@Loverofanimals-h7t
3 ай бұрын
Absolutely correct. One day every one of those individuals will face our Creator. When you hurt one of His children, you have serious consequences and can read about it in the Bible. How many others did he do this to? I have personally known several just like him and they don’t do it to just once or twice to one or two and simply “grow” out of it.
@sophiyahsunflower7259
3 ай бұрын
@@brianmiller3287 By God, which is infinitely worse than any punishment from man.
@PeaceandfreedominYeshua
3 ай бұрын
So cool that she never lost her faith. God bless you Cindy.❤ Thank you for posting.❤
@SRose-vp6ew
3 ай бұрын
It’s so important to have a personal relationship with God through the Christ and not just follow whatever anyone claiming to be a Christian says is of Christ when it isn’t. God is only good, those rejecting doing the good of God are not a reflection of God. Read scripture, pray, listen and obey HIM.
@sharpasatack
3 ай бұрын
@@SRose-vp6ew she has her own view, not a Biblical view.
@elizabethlacky6068
3 ай бұрын
@@sharpasatack You're confusing Cindy with Morris. ..🤣
@jenniewebb374
3 ай бұрын
@@elizabethlacky6068 she/he is not.
@ChitaBanda-u2q
3 ай бұрын
Some do the ones who really are forgiven by God do change. Yes you did did. Once God forgives us He doesn't bring it up!! God doesn't break his word. You want money or you do not had forgiveness in your heart. Give it to God! Let Him handle it! You want Vengeance. Your family knew it. Stop lying.
@jeromeyoung2836
2 ай бұрын
Hello people. He was 19. He probably wasn’t a pastor at the time. I guess making stupid decisions as a young man disqualifies you from being used by God. Well you can throw out 1/2 of the people in Bible that God used then. Don’t we worship a God that restores and saves the broken.
@brendawallace8490
Ай бұрын
💯💯💥💥
@unnamable465
3 ай бұрын
I am a 40 year old woman. I was a Gateway member for 5 years in grand prairie tx. I was raped by my female cousin at the age of 5. I was also abused by men my whole life. I went to the staff for help at Gateway and they did not help me when my abuser was at the church. They pulled me in a room as i cried and screamed. They did nothing. Ill never forget that. Was in 2016. On and off id tell myself that churches are BS and God is not real after this. Thank you for speaking because it helps me see its not God that didnt help me. God is the only one who will. You inspire me! Thank you soooo much! Bless you!!!
@donnaleveron5711
3 ай бұрын
Please contact Cindy and tell her about this. I am so sorry this happened to you. It is time to expose the darkness lurking in churches. May Jesus hold you close, comfort and heal your broken heart, soul, and spirit.
@bibliolov
3 ай бұрын
So sorry that your cousin violated you. I'm not sure though what any church could've done for you after so many years had passed? Would your cousin have allowed them to counsel him? Or have them take him to the authorities? With his age, I'd think most would feel uncomfortable even bringing that up for fear of violence towards them.
@sierrawendell6759
3 ай бұрын
@@bibliolov the cousin was a female
@villieasher1894
3 ай бұрын
Prayers for your total healing from God our loving Father. No we can’t blame God for what happened to us because it was sin. Sun is the cause for what happens to us but HE is the HEALER and only God can heal us totally
@kerrymartin7557
3 ай бұрын
My guess is your story can be multiplied by 100. I'm so sorry you went through that and your "church" treated you that way.
@savannalane838
3 ай бұрын
I'm for you Cindy. God is exposing the hidden works of darkness but also doing so much through your testimony. Thank you for sharing.
@ronniehurst6454
3 ай бұрын
God is calling His people out of the harlot religious system, and he is exposing her wickedness for the world to see.
@RosemaryBelford
3 ай бұрын
Her parents are to blame for this ongoing sadness . All they had to do was go straight to the police as soon as they learned what had happened .
@GameChanger597
3 ай бұрын
Every time I watch pastor Morris I feel something telling me he is arrogant, critical and self-righteous, but I always push the thought away bc his messages line up biblicaly and he caries himself as though he's honoring God in a more serious way than other Christians. But after hearing this, I feel I need to trust my discernment more and not question my God-given gut so much...
@TheRealFight7
2 ай бұрын
There’s a lot of questions here, that are not being answered & surprisingly not being asked. 📖James 5:16✝️
@a.humphries8678
3 ай бұрын
Her parents were obligated to report him to authorities, to protect her and others. So many people failed her.
@charmainehopkins2372
3 ай бұрын
Many years ago the law did not require reporting. Women & girls were victum shamed into keeping quiet. Tragic.
@GrannyDi276
3 ай бұрын
My husband & I Pastored churches.... we weren't taught to have background checks & immediately call the police until we worked with Foursquare churches in 1990. ❤
@kerriferguson2023
3 ай бұрын
Morals and human decency require that anyone who ever learns of such abuse should report immediately. To say that "the Law did not require reporting " some time ago is totally irrelevant. Anyone who covers up child abuse or protects the abusers should be charged and gaoled if convicted. The Law of God is written on our hearts so the Law not requiring reporting is a futile and irrelevant argument. My immediate reaction when I found my son had been raped by my own husband (a church member and that it had been covered up by the Pastors of the church) is recorded in my own book "Father Provoke Not Your Child". Immediate reporting no matter who is involved is imperative.
@DYoung2112
3 ай бұрын
@@charmainehopkins2372 what are saying?That it wasnt illegal then?Sexual abuse of minors in the early eighties,as it is today,was illegal.
@SandraLira-gq8oj
2 ай бұрын
Ecclesiastes 10:19 Money answereth ALL things. Even in such if not especially such a time as this. Cha- Ching!
@earlteigrob9211
3 ай бұрын
Blaming the victim is not repentance. Hello!!!
@CARLPHILLY
3 ай бұрын
Why was he left alone with her that much? You cannot trust men like that. No matter who they are.
@tammycaskey6990
3 ай бұрын
@@CARLPHILLY No. You are wrong. You should of have said: You cannot trust men, PERIOD.
@em77775
3 ай бұрын
@@CARLPHILLY Sadly, people trust pastors too much. They are still human and the enemy wants to tempt them more than the average person because of the chaos it causes. You can't leave your kids alone with any adult, no matter who they are.
@CARLPHILLY
3 ай бұрын
@@em77775 I am a minister. And I was taught not to put myself in a position to where that could happen.
@donnanason597
3 ай бұрын
The abuser finds a way to blame the victim. Shame on the abuser.
@NettyB
2 ай бұрын
As a survivor myself, thank you for speaking up and being so brave. Thank you Lord for bringing this to light
@wwtjoygbths3993
Ай бұрын
Is it true that Cindy had a baby out of wedlock but not Robert's baby?
@MB-263
4 күн бұрын
@@wwtjoygbths3993 I rebuke you in the name of Jesus
@johnemmons8953
3 ай бұрын
People take heed: “Sin takes you farther than you want to go; keeps you longer than you want to stay; costs you more than you want to pay.”
@robinsonnier6887
3 ай бұрын
I believe Morris repented years ago. Where's your forgiveness? Sorry, don't believe u!!!!
@lgh615
3 ай бұрын
@@robinsonnier6887 I believe you are a troll
@caroldonaldson5936
3 ай бұрын
@@robinsonnier6887Utter tosh! He continued to cover up his crime, lie about his victim & made thinly veiled threats against her via emotionally blackmailing emails about how this could legally BACKFIRE ON HER if she continued to expose him! Frankly, your adulation of Morris is tantamount to idolatry and has clearly blinded you to the truth!
@trainer1634
3 ай бұрын
• RM spoken openly ABOUT his contradictory story • just like RM you're now using your voice to doubt her story • she's not looking/asking for disbelieving believers to scorn & mock & mute this survivor ALL OVER AGAIN • as it is written he who is without sin ........this woman is forgiven • it's between this survivor AND our Lord's business if she has/has not forgiven RM - who are we to judge ??? @@robinsonnier6887
@trainer1634
3 ай бұрын
@@lgh615✔️ ☑️
@Anita-silver
3 ай бұрын
The biggest gift is that her parents and others believed her when she disclosed.
@RoxanneBroussard-ej2nb
3 ай бұрын
My mom didn't believe me she gav me up instead
@Papaspronator
3 ай бұрын
Yes, but at the same time they didn’t report it when they found out and they let it go on for 4 years when they should have seen some signs honestly.
@a.humphries8678
3 ай бұрын
@Papaspronator they were obligated to report it. You can be jailed for not reporting. I know a mom who waited 2 days, only because she knew a family member had already reported and she was put in jail.
@donnaprather8104
3 ай бұрын
@@a.humphries8678 But was that the law back when this happened?
@lindatheodorou389
3 ай бұрын
So so sorry. @RoxanneBroussard-ej2nb
@renetfourie7839
3 ай бұрын
Healed broken people, became healers for broken people thru the grace of God!🙏
@valerierosproy1255
3 ай бұрын
@@renetfourie7839 Even if not fully healed, He manages to heal enough to work through them. To Y'shua be all the Glory.
@irod1971
3 ай бұрын
That’s what Pastor Robert Morris became. A healer to many through his own brokenness.
@believerinchrist216
3 ай бұрын
@@irod1971pastors are held to a higher standard. Children are diff from adults
@kingdomrunt
3 ай бұрын
_I hear you. Many of us have endured the same, for years longer at even a younger age but once we exposed our abuser, by God's grace, Jesus walked us through healing. We went on to privately help others, not continue to speak about our abuser under the guise of healing. Something is very wrong with this woman's tactic. Nevertheless, maranatha_
@denisebroadwater5637
3 ай бұрын
I would not send my dog to him..he has never repented
@jhartdaspecialist654
2 ай бұрын
I am sorry this happened to her, but why wait so long to say something? This is not biblical the way she did this. If you had a problem with the pastor, confront him in private among the elders. This was not done in wisdom, but i feel in vengeance on her part. I say this, because i question the time it took to say something. From teen to her present age, Thats the big question! (1John 5:16) Confess your faults to one another and pray for one another, that you may be healed. For the effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much. This is what should have been done instead. Remember you are effecting the body not just a individual, so use wisdom
@clintleffingwell8129
3 ай бұрын
Those of you who are criticizing her for "waiting 30 years" need to keep a few things in mind: 1. Unless you've been through it yourself, you don't grasp the full power of fear, manipulation, and shame. There are countless examples where victims of sexual abuse have symptoms that linger for decades. 2. She clearly states in this interview that she was already telling people (even starting at 17), but she and the people supporting her found it necessary to cast an ever-widening net because the story kept falling on deaf ears. 3. As she herself describes, telling the story doesn't just affect her; a bombshell revelation like this can disrupt many lives, so that can cause reluctance to talk about it.
@alisonh4022
3 ай бұрын
She been sleeping with him for years! stop pretending and trying to gaslight others with your assumptions and theories, it's so obvious what's going on
@linegrant4605
3 ай бұрын
The parents had to be blamed too especially the father. He knew it 💯
@donnaleveron5711
3 ай бұрын
@@linegrant4605Not until she told her parents.
@sallybyrd3712
3 ай бұрын
@@alisonh4022 You are sick in your thinking.
@Joankc119
3 ай бұрын
If you haven’t been through something like this,then you have no idea what a victim goes through 😮😮
@tess-a.9875
3 ай бұрын
I for 1 am glad she came out and exposed him it's part of her healing process. I pray she gets total healing and restoration for her and her family.
@tomblake3809
3 ай бұрын
I'm sorry that this happened. How did Robert Morris have access to Cindy for over four years? Why was she allowed to be alone with him? Just wondering.
@neff02
2 ай бұрын
He lived with them at one point when it started, hower it went on for 4 years. She was indeed failed by multiple adults. He dad supposedly just requested he get counseling and training. Smh he never should have been in authority let alone a pastor. He also has committed adultery and still kept preaching. He is not above reproach and these are just two incidents he has admitted to what about the situation he hasn't admitted to that have not been exposed. He was still allowed to resign when he should have been fired Pierre when he speaks of it he speaks as if it was a relationship with this child that he shouldn't have had when it was not a relationship it was a grooming molestation,trying to belittle his pracriced crimes.
@brendawallace8490
Ай бұрын
What bothers me is she first approached asking for $50,000 for restitution for counciling...
@MindyVanOosterhout
3 ай бұрын
I'm sorry this happened to you!!! Thank you for telling your story!! I hope you are okay!
@omargonzalez510
3 ай бұрын
It shouldn’t say “Robert Morris Accuser” it should say “Robert Morris Victim”
@susangoodman1650
3 ай бұрын
Yes
@sandralira9376
3 ай бұрын
I believe The Spirit witnesses to me that as well.
@ShalimarGonzalez
3 ай бұрын
Bothersome right?
@CLW1977
3 ай бұрын
Is it true?
@simonebaugh9635
3 ай бұрын
Especially when Robert Morris has not denied what she explained he did to her. We really still have a long way to go in treating victims as victims.
@taniabornman8819
3 ай бұрын
I was abused so many times when i was young but when i met Jesus i forgave all of them and was set free because of Jesus and now i can look at them without any judgement and that is only the applying of the word same as Jesus did now i do trauma counceling through applying the cross whst Jesus did and all the people i help is truly sit free without any grudges or regret or revenge
@jamaicaisraelgirl
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for testifying of the power of forgiveness and for your role now to help persons overcome these unfortunate events.
@tinaanderson200
3 ай бұрын
Yeap forgiving doesn't help it will continue to go it's a generational Curse we are running this cult.
@tinaanderson200
3 ай бұрын
@@jamaicaisraelgirlit ain't no power in forgiveness that's a myth smh
@nospam2k
3 ай бұрын
This is a very powerful testimony and one that truly reflects the power of a real salvation and not just religious non-sense. I wish I could say that about the rest of the comments. I imagine if Robert Morris was somehow arraigned, tried, found guilty, and sentenced to death by lethal injection, there would be some that call themselves Christians would be very happy to be there for the event. We live in a very sad, religious country.
@Annie-n6x
3 ай бұрын
This is the best comment on here.
@JudBurkett-pp2mi
2 ай бұрын
Over 40 years ago...are. kidding me...i feel for her..but why now..Jesus can Change people ...what about forgiveness ..wow
@thisdudeneedsanewps4637
3 ай бұрын
Just curious.. why did Cindy’s parents not report Robert to the authorities. Why did this allow him to move forward without any serious consequence?
@dfattyadams123
3 ай бұрын
To those individuals who speak up immediately after being assaulted in any type of way, thank you for your courage. It just might save other people from the hurt and trauma you experienced. God bless you.
@Speakupok
3 ай бұрын
She did … but it was when she was 17 it’s not her fault the adults didn’t do their best to send Robert to jail!!
@kathyharmon2093
3 ай бұрын
Even now she has most certainly saved young girls, predators don’t ever stop
@hope3441
3 ай бұрын
Children rarely disclose abuse immediately. There is a great deal of manipulation by the perpetrator to silence the victim.
@melissamccoy1526
3 ай бұрын
Amen… it IS 💯 % TRUE… I experienced this!
@dfattyadams123
3 ай бұрын
@kathyharmon2093 I certainly hope so, and we ALL can be vigilant to the best of our abilities. See something, say something.
@ggmendoza4540
3 ай бұрын
Cindy Clemishire You Are Brave ! Bless You .
@sstewart03
2 ай бұрын
12 to 16 and the parents and grandparents did not know? Something is wrong here.
@kateesaia
2 ай бұрын
These people are master deceivers. They know how to do this without getting caught.
@janrambo7617
3 ай бұрын
Why didn’t your parents go to the police immediately?
@yvonnerahui8729
3 ай бұрын
Regardless of it being a church person it was illegal..laws of the land! The father was remiss I believe..did he protect his daughter?? Why wait for board meeting if it's sexual abuse?
@greggpurviance7252
3 ай бұрын
It was a diffrent time
@christinahek
3 ай бұрын
And I hate that there was a meeting where she was asked to forgive him, which puts making things right on her instead of him.
@edeancozzens3833
2 ай бұрын
If she doesn't forgive she will not be forgiven. Bitterness is a sign of unforgiveness. The only unforgivable sin in unforgiveness. She is saying that what Robert once was he still is. That denies the power of the gospel to change people.
@jbranstetter04
2 ай бұрын
That says it all.
@carlosrodas423
2 күн бұрын
She doesn't sound bitter. You're presuming that she hasn't forgiven. But nothing in this video indicates that she's vindictive. She rightfully spoke up because he was lying to the church recently. It was appropriate for her to have his account rectified for the sake of himself and the church. Truthful recognition of his wrong will help him truly repent.
@zennyferrer426
3 ай бұрын
Abuse is abuse no matter the age👍🏼
@MsLWade-wr1tk
2 ай бұрын
The entire Evangelical community need to take heed. This sinful conduct is pervasive in the church and becoming a stumbling block to persons who want to be saved.
@MaryH-lj6lx
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for interviewing Cindy. This can be so encouraging to other abuse survivors who are not have been silenced.
@stacym8311
3 ай бұрын
People don't understand that for a victim of child molestation it is a life sentence for the victim. Most of its effects are not even realized until twenty or more years after the initial incident occurred. In church leadership with background checks no child molester is allowed to serve in any capacity of the church where he/she would have one on one contact with children. This is ministry 101!
@bradleykimmons
2 ай бұрын
It’s not a life sentence because the Holy Spirit is real and heals us.
@darcelstewart8516
3 ай бұрын
Rape and molestation is one of the worst things that could happen to a child! 😢 I know from experience.
@VanessaGray_KingswayGlobal
3 ай бұрын
The way Robert Morris minimized the abuse shows he is not fully delivered from this problem. He put other children at risk. 😮
@maverickhampton3580
3 ай бұрын
If Robert Morris minimized his abuse. There is a guarantee there ARE other victims.
@PCLee345
3 ай бұрын
Let's be real, the bum had not been "restored." These so-called religious leaders had been fooling themselves and the congregations. They should have read and re-read Gospel According to Matthew Chapter 5 (verse 30 in particular). These religious bums are unfit to be in this business selling religious and spiritual dope.
@petefults5984
3 ай бұрын
@@maverickhampton3580 guarantee? You guarantee this? What will you do to fulfill your guarantee if you're wrong? Just curious, I haven't seen anyone else with a guarantee.
@cl5080
3 ай бұрын
@@petefults5984I’ve got not one but two siblings who were molested as 7 and 5 year old. One by a SUNDAY SCHOOL TEACHER. I have NEVER seen a case where an adult who molests children ever stops with just one child. Children are to a child molester what heroin is to a junkie. They’re SICK and REPUGNANT COCKROACHES.
@sharpasatack
3 ай бұрын
@@petefults5984 all hearsay and gossip - what the flesh loves to engage in.
@jungensook
3 ай бұрын
My sister was taken advantage of her pastor. She went to him for counseling & he knew she was vulnerable. He denied it! The church believed him. A few years later, more accusations came forth against that pastor by other church goers. The church elders visited my sister at home & apologized for not believing her. But what the church elders did was, send that pastor away to another church in a different state! They Covered his sin & let him continue to be behind the pulpit! It's like that in other churches! It caused believers to turn away from their faith! Thank goodness, she has come back to God but she went thru mental torment & lost her family. Shame on those leaders of churches that do that!!!
@alicebrown7750
3 ай бұрын
This is why we shouldn't put our trust in men only in God. This was wrong for them to send him to another church, they should have reported this.
@Wambassador
2 ай бұрын
Anchor your faith in Jesus Christ, not a pastor or a Church. How can we make believers undesrtand this?
@Iris-2023gh
2 ай бұрын
Yes. Shame for not being held accountable, and the victim has to suffer for so long. There are others who suffer silently. Who says the sufferers are to be blamed because they are affected by the crimes committed by someone else.
@SusanBennett-h8o
2 ай бұрын
@@Iris-2023gh
@meganbryan-ponert4322
2 ай бұрын
O@@Iris-2023gh
@stevepannell2993
2 ай бұрын
I believe this story is causing more harm than good regarding the Kingdom. Not sure I’m seeing much of Jesus in any of this. There was likely a different way to handle this matter all the way around. Makes me question the motive behind it all. And by the way I’m not justifying or excusing any alleged past acts of abuse. Just don’t think I’m seeing the Kingdom in this or the good of the Kingdom that’s all.
@oliviajordan9611
3 ай бұрын
Its amazing how people always blame the victim. Its sad.The Bible says that whatever is hidden shall be revealed; all the secrets are being revealed now, and there is much more to come. Unfortunately, we put our trust in man instead of God. As she said, the victim is always blamed while the predator goes free.
@marysantis1856
2 ай бұрын
Most teens have a boy friend at 15 or 16 years old snd you choose to continue this relationship at that age. Now you are wanting $. The $ you get from this won’t satisfy you. You are a Judas. Taking $ for this. Wow!!
@raybdavisjr
3 ай бұрын
Thank you for speaking out, and your continued faith. I pray for your total healing.
@mayso1104
3 ай бұрын
Is not a moral failure, it’s a crime. And if “properly disclosed” the police should’ve been informed.
@thisdudeneedsanewps4637
3 ай бұрын
I completely agree. The parents should have reported him immediately!
@foxecarpentress4964
3 ай бұрын
How can you say it’s not a moral failure? It is clearly a carnal mind that did this, not a holy spiritual mind that submits to Jesus’s Righteousness. It is Both, a moral failure and a crime!!!
@firewoodtime2
3 ай бұрын
I think the biggest thing to do is pray for God's will. He didn't kill David for murder. And God called for death for adultery yet didn't kill David for adultery either. The Lord did send a prophet to confront him for his sin. That's a lot different then what's happening..
@mayso1104
2 ай бұрын
@@foxecarpentress4964 I’m clearly correcting the disingenuous statement that hides the criminal factor of the situation. Please, use rational thinking. If something is criminal, it is ALSO immoral.
@danmiller6462
3 ай бұрын
What Robert Morris did was not just a sin. It was a crime. He should be in prison.
@lisasharkey5856
3 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@luv2travel2000
3 ай бұрын
Yes.
@laurykristensen6239
3 ай бұрын
Yes, and so many people are saying it was years ago. He repented. Forgive this poor man. Stop persecuting him! They don't seem to realize that if the right thing were done when he was caught? His sentence would be 99 years in a maximum security prison. His entire life behind bars. Does he know what they do to pretty "Priests" that are pedophiles?
@kennethwiggins4396
3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately the time for prosecution has passed. The statute of limitations has expired. I am appalled by this. It never should have happened. Mr. Morris should not have been a pastor.
@lisasharkey5856
3 ай бұрын
I agree he should not have been a pastor! What bothers me more is Christians saying he repented and we should forgive and move on. He didn’t repent, he lied, he said it was a young lady! He got up every Sunday and preached to the Church! Inside of him knowing what he did obviously without Conscience and didn’t step down and he repented after being caught! Christians are forgiving to him but I have heard very little about prayer for his victim! There is a video on you tube where she speaks about what she went through and it gave me more understanding!
@sessali5853
2 ай бұрын
Matthew 18:15-17 “Now if your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, then take with you one or two others, that by the testimony of two or three witnesses every word may be established. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. But if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector. I was abused by a person in church leadership at a young age. I am not going on media and telling what happened to me 26 years ago. I have forgiven them and moved on. They repented and are still in ministry and I pray that God blesses his ministry. I understand her side, but why keep opening up a wound that should have been given to Jesus to heal? The timing of this is......odd.
@trencesmall8704
Ай бұрын
Thank you for your testimony, yours is a breath of fresh air, I don’t particularly follow pastor Morris’ ministry, but that situation seems very strange to me as well, I was under the impression that the sins were dealt with back in the 80s when it happened
@sallydavidson4204
Ай бұрын
And Pastor Robert had been abused as a child, plus, sexually abused at a later time. But he CHOSE to forgive, sincerely from his heart, allowing God to heal the relationship/relationships, bringing glory to God, speaking on it 1-2 years ago, from the pulpit, with many grateful people commenting on the healing of their own souls after he shared from his heart, how God fully restored him and his Mother before she passed away. Forgiveness is divine, forgiveness expects NO-thing in return. Forgiveness brings healing, restoration and Peace, from our loving God, Amen.
@bacaworld7095
3 ай бұрын
A 12 year old is NOT a young lady!! This makes me sick!! Shame on him!! The fact that they say “young lady” shows he has no true remorse. 😢
@shereef3823
3 ай бұрын
young lady is a term used to address a 'girl'....he did not call her a young 'woman'. Then your case would make more sense. (Many girls, at that age are definitely physically becoming young women). Young lady is NOT referring to her physical state....it is a term to respect a growing female.
@thetruthchannel349
3 ай бұрын
*she was almost 13 when it started & almost 18 when it concluded. She was a young lady. When I was 13 I had a 19 yr old girl come on to me at a friends house. I knew EXACTLY what was happening. I wasn't a naive little boy that didn't understand. I knew. I left the room & went to bed. I could have made another choice. But the choice was mine. Same thing happened here. I don't buy this story. I don't buy her. I don't buy it. MORE was expected from me when I was 5 years old.*
@judithmiller7308
3 ай бұрын
As long as Morris referred to the victim as "young lady" it was accepted by his audience that Morris and his wife blamed the victim and said she had a Jezebel spirit. But, that's not acceptable now that we know that she was 12yrs old. It's really creepy to hear Morris tell how he chose his victims, plural, when he was leading an immoral lifestyle. Get the clip on him preaching that! He didn't come into accountability or step away from preaching for 2 years like he claimed, as evidenced by the archived newspaper articles announcing Morris preaching at various meetings. He even says that he released himself to preach again after only one month. Where is the transparency, repentance, accountability, etc. Most victims do not even realize they've been groomed. It's only when they hear stories like Cindy's that they realize what's been done to them. The statute of limitations needs to be changed.
@enjoying1515
3 ай бұрын
@@thetruthchannel349You referred to yourself as a boy , so I'm assuming you are a male . Girls and boys are very different in the way they process issues . We gals especially in the past were very trusting and easily manipulated. I'm 62 years old and I could have been manipulated very easily at the age of 12 . She is 52 , a different generation. Also look around you at all the children even now that are being abused and there keeping their secrets.
@thetruthchannel349
3 ай бұрын
@@enjoying1515 *girls & boys are different. Girls mature faster.*
@Sea_10-24
3 ай бұрын
I read through many of the comments here. My heart is saddened and angry. *Verses taken out of context! *It is about the money ? *She needs to forgive and move on! *Etc, etc, etc…. Fact: If you have never been sexually abused, you have no idea what that does to a person. I would recommend reading “The Wounded Heart” Can we stop for a minute and just pray?
@sindeeesquibel5198
2 ай бұрын
Forgiveness is crucial. Jesus can heal. I know this because l was sa by two uncles when young. I forgave them and Jesus healed me. Honestly l would put Jesus first. If Pastor Robert Morris is spreading the good news and people are coming to the Lord l would put him first.(Jesus through Morris) 30 yrs later l feel this woman has deep unforgiveness issues. Thats just my opinion.
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