My prediction about Rocks is this: he is not a man driven by love or care of the oppressed, but hatred of the oppressors. It's often said that He Who Fights Monsters must take care not to become a monster himself, and I think that's what happened to Rocks. Garp and Roger teamed up against Rocks not to defend the Celestial Dragons, but to defend the innocent victims who were caught in the crossfire of Rock's attack.
@GalihRafiSalauddin
10 ай бұрын
So...an Anti Villain
@g.riffic7707
10 ай бұрын
I agree with this take. You can't ever tell the oppressed how to fight against the oppressors, but I do believe that Roger and Garp had a good reason to deny Rocks the opportunity to take down the Celestial Dragons/WG, and it's probably because they didn't believe there was the proper set up for a succesful post-revolutionary war. Also, I think Oda will represent this by presenting us with The Treasure of Hachinosu as the thing which is being fought over by Rocks vs. Garp + Roger as a way of demonstrating "worthiness" to elad the new world order. By the war, I think the Treasure of Hachinosu is the Giant straw hat.
@matthewsteenson6903
6 ай бұрын
@@g.riffic7707I agree, I think Rocks was just killing everyone that was a Celestial Dragon including children.
@ImNotRjay
11 ай бұрын
I think Rocks was like Kid in the sense that he believed that the world government is more evil than him but he still did heinous crimes. And I think Roger stopped him either for a selfish goal or that he believed that the world would be worse off with Rocks in control. (My own headcannon)
@barimvp897
11 ай бұрын
Ye that would be my guess as well
@K4inan
11 ай бұрын
I'd say Roger stopped Rocks because he wasn't joyboy, and the time wasn't right.
@umbralowl
11 ай бұрын
I tend to subscribe to that he was like Luffy, A good person that the WG paints as evil. Whitebeard's a good person and I don't think he'd follow someone he didnt respect. Also Big Moms dream in it's most basic form is to end racism in the One Piece World. Also Roger didn't start looking for the One Piece til after God Valley. I just think he was more like Luffy than Kid
@umbralowl
11 ай бұрын
@@K4inan No, Roger didn't even start looking for the One Piece til after God Valley so it had nothing to do with that, Roger didn't learn about the too early thing til he reached Laughtale like 16 whole years later, Imo Rocks is the person who got Roger to start looking
@triniti1k458
11 ай бұрын
Oh you just suddenly forgot about Blackbeard huh, suddenly Rocks is good and blackbeard following in his footsteps isnt... hypothetically speaking
@parsashekarriz6634
11 ай бұрын
Crazy how one piece reflects the real world and what’s goin on today
@turjamajumder7053
11 ай бұрын
Still some people think One piece isn't political
@ragingpirate5727
11 ай бұрын
Yup, Gorsei=Politicians. Imu=CEOs, WHO and Banking
@pietroiso2
11 ай бұрын
Couldn't stop thinking about hanmas and Israel once i got to the end of the video.
@turjamajumder7053
11 ай бұрын
@@pietroiso2 same. In manga both Rocks and WG are bad just like in our world moth Hamas and Israel are unjustified for their action.
@yoyo2323F9
11 ай бұрын
@@ragingpirate5727world gov = Israel
@murphydaquan
11 ай бұрын
Most anticipated flashback of the entire series. We're in the Golden Age of One Piece my friends😊
@Gamedx01
11 ай бұрын
The void century flashback be like 🗿🗿
@murphydaquan
11 ай бұрын
@@Gamedx01 they're 1a and 1b lol, let's go with that
@Beamken
11 ай бұрын
@@Gamedx01The void century is 800 years of fucked up shit that could be another series in itself
@emilianoelias7
11 ай бұрын
We will not see much of Rocks in this flashback. It will be mostly Kuma. Probably more of it will be shown later.
@manbeard8678
11 ай бұрын
Second most* Void century will always be the biggest and most anticipated one.
@luffylength
11 ай бұрын
Rocks D xebec is my most anticipated reveal in this story. You gotta be a god tier monster to run this bunch
@bwhit7919
11 ай бұрын
At God Valley, we will have: - Pirates that are good (Roger and crew) - Pirates that are evil (Xebec and crew) - World government leaders that are good (Garp and his underlings) - World government leaders that are evil (the Celestial Dragons) I think the moral of God Valley will be that the struggle between good and evil transcends the struggle between pirate and marine.
@mannythegrandfather2291
11 ай бұрын
This is such an interesting video, especially during events currently happening in the real world.
@thekage100
11 ай бұрын
FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
@Marka_Ragnos24n8
11 ай бұрын
FREE PALESTINE 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
@amdesign7720
11 ай бұрын
#FreePalestinefromhamas 🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱🇮🇱
@Marka_Ragnos24n8
11 ай бұрын
@@amdesign7720 SAVE PALESTINE FROM THE APARTHEID GOVERNMENT ISRAEL. Open your eyes don't close your eyes to wickedness, Israel is shamelessly not even trying to hide it.
@thekage100
11 ай бұрын
@@amdesign7720 #FreeIsfakeFromExistence
@Gingerbreadley
11 ай бұрын
Ballsy to make this video right now. You go.
@47jae47
11 ай бұрын
Very
@rriveror27
11 ай бұрын
How?
@OtakuTalkOD
11 ай бұрын
Came here to see if anyone else saw the correlation
@sebjornsprauten1406
11 ай бұрын
Yeah the hamas arlong/rocks comparison is so intensely accurate haha
@Shadoraz
11 ай бұрын
how is it ballsy it’s true
@ChillstoneBlakeBlast
11 ай бұрын
Remember what Blackbeard said that Pirates only need a common interest to work together and he feels like pirates should work however they want. It seems like the common interest from the whole Rocks crew is that they despised the celesteal dragons and the world/Weak in some way (Kaido Saw wano as weak, Big Mom Enslaved or took lives of individuals that opposed her, Shiki hated rookie pirates). The only outlier was Whitebeard who wanted a family, probably because he knew just how cruel the world could be.
@FatManJackson
11 ай бұрын
The Shiki movie is not canon, just a side note.
@MrJamaigar
7 ай бұрын
@@FatManJackson Movies aren't canon , period. (Unless they're adapting actual manga parts. Usually short, 12-chapter arcs.) Spoiler>/spoiler> Everything else in the prologue Chapter 0 was canon: Shiki being one of Roger's many enemies, their naval battle, Shiki vs Garp and Sengoku, Shiki's imprisonment, and escape from Impel Down, etc. Maybe Shiki will get to appear, and play a part in the canon story. Maybe he's the famous "man marked by flames" Kidd (1056) , and later Blackbeard (1081) were talking about. Spoiler>/spoiler>
@FatManJackson
7 ай бұрын
@@MrJamaigar I did not say they were lol he was talking about things that happened in the Shiki movie specifically so I said that movie is not canon.
@zouwu4487
11 ай бұрын
You're on point with the kinds of pirates on his crew. That was the exact sentiment that changed how I viewed rocks. Even Big Mom has/had dreams of a pretty great world. He might be a character somewhere in the spectrum between Blackbeard and Luffy
@MrJamaigar
7 ай бұрын
I think I see some parallels with Dragon. Like him, Rocks might've started out as a revolutionary. Except he was more of an extremist. A terrorist willing to die or kill for his cause; hated by the establishment, but respected by his allies (his crew). Like Makima, considering himself "a necessary evil" to oppose the greater evil (World Government and Celestial Dragons.)
@magic369z
11 ай бұрын
I think the reason why Roger stopped Rocks was because he somehow knew that it would cause another cleansing and that they were not strong enough to stop the world government. Now that we know the gorosei are actually strong and the existence of Imu it would make sense that even Rocks and Roger couldn't stop all of them.
@user89371
4 ай бұрын
Bro, that's actually a decent theory ngl. I wonder if you're gonna end up being right or not.
@FunkiMonki69
11 ай бұрын
I like how you called Garb's hero status into question based on what he might've done at God Valley. I always assumed (and it was likely portrayed that way as a red herring) that Garb didn't want the hero title and the admiration for his deeds at God Valley because he had to team up with Roger, which would be a scandal to most marines, but now it seems it just might be because he truly regrets protecting the Tenryobito and their crimes back then.
@sonofcronos7831
11 ай бұрын
Garp rejects the hero title exactly because he was as hero in saving the tenryuubito, the ones he despises. Funny how the most valuable man in the marines is also the one that hates the tenryuubito the most exactly for saving them (and that was what earned him his position).
@fullmasti1944
11 ай бұрын
Nah Your assumption is too out of the box... Blackbeard is carrying will of Rocks. Rocks indeed wanted to free the world from God's but to rule it. Roger/Luffy also want too free it from God's but too give freedom to everyone..
@FatManJackson
11 ай бұрын
I think this might be the second reason, but the primary reason is that Admirals stand under the command of Celestial Dragons, Vice Admirals dont. He does not want to be ordered around by them specifically. He is only loyal to the marines.
@AMAN-jn5ji
4 ай бұрын
@@fullmasti1944Roger never wanted to free anyone. He only cared out his crew and his goal to become the Pirate King.
@00Punk
11 ай бұрын
Respect to ya for this video Morj. This is what art is for. I’m glad we’ve all been reading the same story. 🙏🏽❤️ peace & love guys may the world heal
@Subgenrelol
11 ай бұрын
I think Oda is prepping us for the switcheroo, where he is going to remind us how awful the celestial dragons are, just to then bring in Rocks and make him so devious we root against him. Sort of like how Game of Thrones would make you hate a character in one season and then root for them the next season when a more pressing threat is introduced
@picklenik9658
11 ай бұрын
Rocks and Roger will likely be a Luffy and Blackbeard scenario. They are foils to each other, sharing the same dreams and ideals of absolute freedom and pursuit of dreams, but it’s the methods by which they achieve those goals that separates them and shows how it’s not what our goals are in life that define us, but the decisions we make and how we go about attaining those goals.
@bam762
11 ай бұрын
Yeah this is always been my thought on Rocks; a flawed revolutionary akin to Blackbeard. I mean just as Blackbeard brought in great legends into the fold into his crew; Rocks did the same. Theres just no way hes actually completely good. I do think he will be closer to good than Blackbeard tho, yet his flawed ways coming to light will probably be some of the things that separate the crew as well. Seeing Roger and Garp come together is gonna be such an incredible sequence, and im excited to see these legends go ham in an avenue where we know most of top tier abilities. Its clear Oda has tried to keep us from seeing too much from the Yonko but now with the end of Kaido + Big Mom, Garp's ability reveal, and Shanks showcase, they can fully illustrate the insane powers of those who stand at the top. One of my greatest wishes is that if they ever do a canon movie, that they do it on Marineford and we get the added nuance of haki. I always felt that in Marineford there was things that took place that we as the reader and Luffy just didnt get to really see yet because he wasnt there yet. Theres no way Conquerors wasnt used in some capacity or general haki etc. Would love to see the animators now be able to show all that greatness.
@jayday325
11 ай бұрын
Wait what was garp's ability reveal
@Allen-qs2xr
11 ай бұрын
Figarland: Infertile soil will not breed ripe fruit. If you wanted to be worthy you would have been borned in the sky like a celestial dragon. Rocks: So if the common man is born on infertile soil, what about slaves like us? Born from crevice of rocks? I am Rocks D. Xebec from the concrete, I'd beat you and become the king of the world.
@kingad8869
11 ай бұрын
😮
@Stretch-eq8zb
2 ай бұрын
Cringe
@elykeios
11 ай бұрын
Excellent commentary Morj, appreciate how you made it relevant to current events 👏🏼
@sidneywilliams6273
11 ай бұрын
The man that Roger was waiting for is Luffy. Never Teach at all
@lahawnduh
11 ай бұрын
Imagine if Rocks was actually a super swell guy lmao
@balthazardenazareth7491
11 ай бұрын
Morj low key speaking about middle Est conflicts. >
@muffinfighter3680
11 ай бұрын
I would even say this applies to all conflicts between colonizers and the colonized (of course I don't want to belittle the struggle of the Palestinians)
@pokestonks
11 ай бұрын
Morj just explained the whole Israel Palestine conflict through One Piece. Legend
@aneldysalmeron6325
11 ай бұрын
I feel like the reason why Xebec targeted the slaves as well was that he most likely viewed the slaves as inferior and weak because they became slaves. I feel like Rocks admired strong willed individuals who do not bend down to others, and this lines up with Whitebeard and Kaido. Whitebeard shows this character sic, given how he had to fight for his village because of his refusal and inability to pay heavenly tributes, and Kaido, who has been captured and imprionsed numerous times, refuses to be a government dog or serve anyone. Rocks most likely admired these qualities about Kaido and Whitebeard, and logicially, we can assume that he disregarded the slaves because of their inherent weakness and refusal to go against a suppressive system.
@thegalleonrobbers
11 ай бұрын
I genuinely think you're on to something
@Orto-jj2di
10 ай бұрын
I think that's the reason why whitebeard betrays him there
@christopherlacour9671
11 ай бұрын
This video is basically morjs take on hammas and Israel
@usopp134
11 ай бұрын
That's a interesting way to talk about what's happening without getting people crazy haha
@Swiminatub
11 ай бұрын
I’m so proud most of your comments get the real world analogy you are making. It’s so interesting to see who Oda has brought together
@matthewkrambeer2480
11 ай бұрын
"Just because a govt says something doesn't make it true." Damn, I wish people could learn a very similar lesson in the space of gender ideology.
@kamikazestriker4675
4 ай бұрын
What that men are men and women are women?
@skaldofepics9380
11 ай бұрын
You make a great point Morj and I think it is one that will be represented in Luffy and Blackbeard’s character dynamics. I get the vibe that Roger and Rocks probably wanted the same thing, however they both went about it in completely different ways. I feel the same will be for Luffy and BB. Kind of like the Assassins and Templars from the Assassins Creed games. It has been expressed many times that they both want peace and a unified world, however one wants it through subjugation while the other wants it with human beings free will still being in tact.
@fullmasti1944
11 ай бұрын
Luffy and Blackbeard wants to free the world from WG But Blackbeard want to rule it himself And Luffy want to give Freedom to everyone
@MrAwewqe
11 ай бұрын
From the river to the sea Great reflection
@Dingle.Donger
11 ай бұрын
Rocks can't be THAT bad if Whitebeard was on the crew.
@starboy2079
11 ай бұрын
I think he had a similar mentality to like kid not the best guy but not as bad as the government portrays them
@Guiplc
11 ай бұрын
it would be cool if roger was fooled to believe rocks had evil intention
@omkarcharati8930
11 ай бұрын
It really is mind blowing how relevant the stuff being said in this video, and by extension Oda's message, is for the dark times that we are currently going through in the real world. And if you REALLY think about it, Oda more than likely already had most of what actually went down at God Valley planned out in his head ever since Sengoku's lore dump (which was like what, about 2-3 years ago?)...which begs the question, with how these events are lining up both in the One Piece world as well as ours, whether this was just an insane coincidence or an actual demonstration of Future Sight by Goda himself. So does this man have the answer to this insanely complicated and nuanced problem that tests the limits of our ethics, our morals and our humanity? Can't wait to find out. Great video Morj, one of your best ones yet.
@sonofcronos7831
11 ай бұрын
But one piece is always dealing with stuff like opression and wars and slaves. For the most time it will align to current events of similar nature.
@CDolph296
11 ай бұрын
One Piece handles politics in a pretty naive manner. The two sides are almost always black and white and after a successful/failed revolution the island enters a state of paradise.
@omkarcharati8930
11 ай бұрын
@@sonofcronos7831really? I'd love an example if you can remember any, out of genuine curiosity
@omkarcharati8930
11 ай бұрын
@@CDolph296sure, but this time seems somehow different no? What if Rocks was a lesser of 2 evils or something like that perhaps
@tladilebohang
11 ай бұрын
7:19 I'm thinking of one piece z, Z was trying to kill all pirates without regard for innocent lives
@NotTheWEJ
11 ай бұрын
Rocks’s son Buggy and Garling’s son Shanks were both brought onboard Roger’s ship lol
@TheJaviferrol
11 ай бұрын
Not likely at all, but imagine the Rocks Pirates are a Cross Guild parallell and Rocks was just a fraud who had charisma and was capable of bringing together loads of strong people for a common cause.
@narayasuiryoku1397
11 ай бұрын
Kinda like Shinichiro Sano from Tokyo revengers.
@luiseusebio4203
11 ай бұрын
This is unlikely but the shit you just spat out makes sense? Lol how did you even come up with this conclusion?
@planetmac8586
11 ай бұрын
Why everyone keeps bringing this up?
@varptm3672
11 ай бұрын
That sucks so much 😭
@strayunisonleague5528
11 ай бұрын
@@planetmac8586they keep bringing it up cuz they know his true identity.... "BUGGY D. Pirate King" 👑
@curtisbrown8735
11 ай бұрын
I think Roger and Garp had similar agendas and thts y they teamed up against Rocks, meaning Garps’ job was to save the celestials and their slaves and Roger probably just wanted to help the slaves and probably knew of Rocks’ plan and Rocks probably wanted everyone in God Valley dead celestials and their slaves
@Sjhhshaahahaha
11 ай бұрын
If Rocks and Blackbeard are similar I don’t see whitebeard joining with him. Maybe Rocks was like a mix between luffy and Blackbeard, not as good but also not as evil
@brockebenson
11 ай бұрын
My personal theory is that the God Valley Incident was that the Rocks pirates were attempting to kidnap the celestial dragons as hostages for ransom, very similarly to BlackBeard with Koby, whereas Rocks’ plan would give him a way bigger bargaining chip than Koby or Garp ever would.
@Swiminatub
11 ай бұрын
Oda does love to repeat doesn’t he…
@chibk
11 ай бұрын
None of these videos or comments aged well at all😭😭😭 we’re not getting the full flashback rn😞😞😞
@YungRamo
11 ай бұрын
I think we will still get the flashback later, but after egghead conflict is resolved. We did get a lot of info though so I am happy for now. I just want to see dragon come save strawhats on egghead.
@chibk
11 ай бұрын
@@YungRamo all fax. I love the theory by 333VIL that “dragon was introduced at loguetown in chapter 100, and he’ll finally meet luffy 1000 chapters later in chapter 1100”
@Agelim
11 ай бұрын
This is very relevant today with what’s going on with Israel and Palestine
@astathexlbullie4961
11 ай бұрын
Even if he had to kill slaves it doesn’t mean he’s not a hero. Sometimes you gotta be a devil to defeat a worse devil. If he had a choice not to kill slaves and did it anyway then that’s not heroic. But he likely saw it a necessary sacrifice for the greater good. If killing those slaves would have toppled the IMU regime then would that really be evil. That could have saved an exponential amount of lives and suffering. If Roger teamed up with the slavers to protect the slaves only to prolong imus regime then that’s evil
@hatefulgaming1800
11 ай бұрын
I mean this is going with the assumption he was a good guy.
@anthonychima7494
11 ай бұрын
I cannot help but draw parallels of this analysis with what's going on between the IDF and Hamas. Great work Morj. Thankyou for this insight.
@NtuthukoGabela-jr2ed
11 ай бұрын
im impressed with you morj your theories are fun to watch
@MarcoBecerril-ut2un
11 ай бұрын
Excelent video Morj, I love that you used the word terrorists I think it was ro described also the real world
@Madia367
11 ай бұрын
As evil as Rocks may be, it would be pretty satisfying to see him just mow down a crowd of celestial dragons.
@thehansolo0513
11 ай бұрын
i just had the craziest idea - what if rocks is supposed to be kidd’s equivalent, the same way luffy’s is roger ? after all, when we’re introduced to kidd, we’re told he has a high bounty because he doesn’t care about civilian deaths. i feel like there’s some kind of parallel there
@stanislaww.piesio9879
11 ай бұрын
That video hits so hard in context of what is happening right now in Middle East...
@kamikazestriker4675
4 ай бұрын
Not at all
@EchoChaser96
11 ай бұрын
Rock potential could try to kill baby Shanks after finding out he’s a celestial’s child or other celestial children but Roger stop him because he believes, “a child should not bare the sin of the father.” We know Garp believes this too, giving Ace a chance. Maybe that’s why they team up?
@Orto-jj2di
10 ай бұрын
Hmm possible
@dark_abel
11 ай бұрын
Roger was probably just looking for a good fight against Xebec and didn't realize all the stuff going on around them
@jomets10
11 ай бұрын
Many people don't consider that the description we know of Rocks comes from a class for marines, highly unlikely Sengoku was telling the truth and the other source is Big Mom who has proven to be a poor judge of character
@MarkHogan994
11 ай бұрын
If you actually think Garp and Roger would team up to take down a guy who is actually not that bad, you're on something my friend. For them to team up there is pretty much only one explanation. Rocks did or was going to do something horrific.
@jomets10
11 ай бұрын
@@MarkHogan994 Again it hasn't been confirmed that they even did team up you're just repeating Sengoku taught young marines, Garp himself has never even confirmed it
@Mantosasto
11 ай бұрын
@@jomets10 Yeah but why would Sengoku lie there? Why say Roger and Garp joined if it isn't true? Wouldn't be better just to say that Garp alone stopped Rocks? If it's a lie, that lie goes better with the marines than an alliance with *the* pirate.
@UnexpectedWonder
11 ай бұрын
@@MarkHogan994Absolutely not! Both Roger and Garp are proven to be Selfish, and Garp isn't the greatest judge of Character.
@nikgokuhil
11 ай бұрын
I think Garp doesnt talk about what happened there, not only cause he isnt happy about it, but he has a hush order from above
@GGO_Tube
11 ай бұрын
Lol Love how this parallels what's happening in our world currently
@New3DSLuigi364
11 ай бұрын
No; He was Basically as Evil as Blackbeard. . . He wanted to become King of the world; just like Marshall D. Teach; He wanted to not only overthrow the entire world government of Imu; BUT HE WANTS TO BE THE ONE IN CHARGE OF THE ENTIRE WORLD!!
@thewavenetwork73
11 ай бұрын
Luffy is unintentionally following rocks path.
@ohzigsy
11 ай бұрын
Bro the editing is so fuckin good
@dwcrow
11 ай бұрын
I think Rocks was likely good for the most part. As far as Roger, i think he likely stumbled onto a fight by chance, and decided to fight without all the context, and realized at the end he was on the wrong side. Idk, Rogers part in this could go many different ways. As far as blackbeard, my current headcanon is this. Blackbeard was 2 when Rocks died. Dragon was 17. I think Dragon saw the real Rocks at Godvalley and decided to follow in his footsteps, where as Blackbeard only knew the stories and propganda. He thinks he following Rocks ideals, but in reality knows nothing about them. If im right, i think Blackbeard would mirror Hordy in this way.
@DrewK19
11 ай бұрын
This to me was fishy from the very beginning. I didn’t think Whitebeard would swear loyalty to a totally evil man. Glad you agree. EDIT: Finished the video. The Blackbeard parallels were crazy damn hell yea Morj.
@clay_freespirit
11 ай бұрын
this is all so exciting and so interesting!!!
@crono276
11 ай бұрын
Unless his feelings changed after God Valley
@DrewK19
11 ай бұрын
Propaganda is a governments best friend after all
@PowerfulSniff
11 ай бұрын
I think Rocks could have had a pluton-copy (blueprints existed) or something similar and was going to wipe the island Possibly had the uranus and the celestial dragons got their hands on it after Rocks got defeated, then they tested it on the island anyway for their amusement
@faunito
11 ай бұрын
Maybe Roger laughed when finding the One Piece because of irony. He discovered that Rocks was Joyboy and helped defeat him all those years ago
@AJAlkaline
11 ай бұрын
One Piece is very clearly at its core about Oda's interpretation of anarchist philosophy, every aspect of the story reinforces this notion, the difference between Rocks/Blackbeard and Luffy/Roger is a concept called "Unity of Ends and Means": Basically, in seeking to bring about a better world you can either take the Machiavellian path and do whatever it takes to make that happen even if it means doing horrible things (ends justify the means), or you can try living now the way you want to live in that better world and to use exclusively the means that demonstrate the desirable qualities of that world you're trying to create as contrasted with the cruel qualities of the world that already exists (unity of ends and means). Likewise Luffy clearly demonstrates the concept of "Direct Action" in the way he approaches every problem: Direct action is when in order to change an unfree world, you simply start living like you are already free.
@XDEnd00
11 ай бұрын
Bro, Rocks literally wanted to be King of the World, he is not an anarchist. His case is not one of "ends justifying the means" because both his means and his ends were shitty He opposed the celestial dragons not to free the seas but to rule it himself
@AJAlkaline
11 ай бұрын
@@XDEnd00 We can't know what Rocks actually wanted because everything we know about his desires and motivations was written by the marines. That's also a repeating theme in One Piece; people get a perception of history and who various people were and what they wanted that were stories simply written by the victor. Also, as we've discovered, the meaning of "King" is not the same for every person in the same way the meaning of "treasure" is not the same. For Luffy, for instance, "King of the Pirates" actually means "to be the most free person on the seas".
@onimusic29
11 ай бұрын
it makes so much sense now why whitebeard was a part of rocks crew. i just didnt see whitebeard as a villain when he was introduce to be one of rocks crew. so i think rocks wasn't a bad person but a hero who was trying to destroy the celestial dragons but failed.
@sobversion3
11 ай бұрын
Could be a villain who reformed post God Valley
@onimusic29
11 ай бұрын
@@sobversion3 he didnt seem like a bad person when he approaches kaido.
@crono276
11 ай бұрын
@@onimusic29 He could've been more ok with allies doing bad stuff but not himself, and I'd consider that bad.
@cl86241
11 ай бұрын
I often thought Rocks might not be what we think. As Doffy said, the winner is justice and the winner decides what the truth is.
@kulkuljator
11 ай бұрын
Slaves at God Valley: "You have freed us!" Rocks D Xebec: "Oh, I would not say "freed", more like "under new management"."
@Nubin2000
11 ай бұрын
I think is possible that Rocks D. Xebec was born on God Valley and wants to save his home or God Valley speical resources or the treasures of the Celestial Dragons (CDs) such as Divine Tribute and Devil Fruits along with his plan of becoming King of the One Piece World by killed the CDs and Gorosei. I personally believe that Rock D. Xebec was the Blackbeard of his era but was a Haki-man on level of Roger and Garp. Xebec is probably very evil like Blackbeard along with being very selfish and egoistical considering even Big Mom told Kaido not to trust him. Perhaps, Whitebeard even betrayed Xebec in the end and sided with Roger and Garp?
@Orto-jj2di
10 ай бұрын
Very true. Its possible slaves death was last straw
@benihime202
11 ай бұрын
is it just me or is mr morj speaking on israel- palestine issue using one piece
@thomasdaywalt7735
9 ай бұрын
Depends on how you view the story His actions His methods his character and background
@bmoney3837
11 ай бұрын
this is the best year of one piece and next year would be even better
@941ramazi
11 ай бұрын
Only hero at God Valley was Garp - pulled up with scrubs, against all those superstars, everybody else was there for some "treasure", Garp always tried to protect the weak, even the guys he hated and was the last man standing, when Rocks got destroyed and Roger fled
@RogerMarco1504
11 ай бұрын
What i want rocks' story to be like is he was a former slave owned by the Figarlands and was beaten to death for being a D, he was forced to kill loved ones because the celestial dragons were forcing him to do so. Rocks wanted revenge and when he saw the opportunity at god valley he didnt hesitate, he was willing to kill and commit genocide to celestial dragons adult and children. This is why Roger and Garp and Whitebeard oppsed because they think children has got nothing to do with the actions of their parents, kinda mirroring it to Ace's story.
@RadiantReverie-pl2ki
11 ай бұрын
What you said could be applied to whats happening in real life if you know what i mean
@georgez2702
11 ай бұрын
The Blackbeard/Shanks flashback is gonna be the biggest one. Remember Shanks knows the Gorosei and he still finds BB the biggest threat. And there’s a reason why
@muns8928
11 ай бұрын
Here's the problem. Nothing in the story ever said roger is a heroic person. It's implied he is a good person. He took care of his crew. Raised couple of kids. Have been respectful. But never heroic like white beard. Who's heroic story we hear even after his death. But we never heard some random fishman saying roger protected them when he was at his prime or he sent money to sustain an entire island. Sengoku never said roger wanted to protect celestial dragons and slaves. He said garp joined with roger in order to save celestial dragons and slaves. That does not mean roger was there to protect anyone. It means roger was already fighting rocks. And garp joined the fight so that he can save the slave and the dragons cause it's his job. What if roger was fighting rocks because he was the strongest pirate. That's so much more in character than him doing it for a heroic reason. So there's no reason to believe roger is the hero and just because he fought rocks, rocks can't be the hero. Also 9:56 why would you believe that. Based on what you said you can believe he won't do the wrong thing but we don’t know if he would ever do "the right thing". I think we are mixing up a really good person with a heroic person.
@shady8045
10 ай бұрын
I think its very unlikely that he wasn't evil tbh. I think he didn't really care whether the CDs were evil for not, but HE wanted to be the tyrant. He wanted to be the one with a million slaves and could do literally whatever the hell he wanted, he wanted the helm that the CDs had. They could have been completely benevolent and nothing would have changed, as he is nothing like dragon.
@DRAPlON
11 ай бұрын
starting to avoid morj's videos bc i dont wanna potentially spoiled
@omkarcharati8930
11 ай бұрын
underrated comment lmao
@Dracule18
11 ай бұрын
Are we forgetting that his crewmembers used to fight themselves to death? He was no good guy.
@bilogskii2216
11 ай бұрын
Maybe he's the one who exposed the true colors of the Celestial Dragons and he wanted to rally people against them. He might be the one who discovered the existence of Laughtale island and that it holds the key in taking down the WG. Maybe before his fall he encouraged everyone to go there and if they did they will be hailed as the Pirate King. I believe he had this great cause, otherwise WB wouldn't let himself be under him.
@Vyhox2000
11 ай бұрын
Its crazy how well this video explains current USA
@dfile7598
11 ай бұрын
Great video. Now that I think about it, I would like to see the SH & even people like Hancock to learn about the GVI. Which may help Hancock fully understand that even though Rayleigh & Garp may have partially caused her suffering, Rocks himself wasn't truly in the right no matter how noble & justified his motives may have looked.
@DrewK19
11 ай бұрын
2:12 Star War nailed this message too with Palpatine
@rafiakram3250
11 ай бұрын
Israel keeps popping into mind during this video
@batboyshark
11 ай бұрын
onggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!
@lrkcm373
11 ай бұрын
I think Morj is right, and the signs are pretty clear. Just look at Kaido & Big Mom. Both of them aspired to take down the World Government, and if you boil it down to just that, they’d be heroes. But we know them, and know that at world ruled by them would be even worse than what’s currently in place. The evil of the Celestial Dragons is better than the lawless survival of the fittest world Kaido wants, or a world ruled by a monster like Big Mom who would eat her own child’s soul or level a country cause she was hungry. Revolutions need to be done by the right people to make the world better.
@Black-Moustache
11 ай бұрын
The Government calling people evil is hilarious.
@moosatch8586
11 ай бұрын
Everyone commenting how similar One Piece is to events in the world. One Piece has always been the story of the world, of humans, of life here. There is a reason it resonates with so many people all over the world. If you read Oda’s short stories from when he was younger you can see that he has always thought about such things. The idea of Mind, Body, and Spirit is also here (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit if you’re a Christian or w/e) which is an idea throughout every culture. The three types of haki, the three types of devil fruits align with mind, body, and spirit (body - armament, mind - observation, spirit - conqueror’s). There is a lot of other esoteric symbolism in One Piece. I am Ute/Kiowa Native American and JoyBoy is very similar to our ideas of tricksters. They’re usually seen as being a lil mischievous or bad, but there are some that were good as well. The Kiowa tribe I’m from says that we were taken care of one named Saynday, who took care of us and taught us how to carry ourselves. The deeper you dig, the more you find. Atlantis, Lemuria, Spirituality, etc. One Piece is the story of life.
@w1-w2-w3
11 ай бұрын
This is really good.
@eddieherrera951
11 ай бұрын
Loved that am I asshole bit, also I know anime isn’t technically canon but in the rocks pirates flashback it confirms that it was rocks in the doorway not big mom, and he appeared to be wearing a straw hat , I just feel like this hasn’t been talked about and it adds into the fact that rocks was quite the opposite of a villian
@cesardka
11 ай бұрын
Anime is mainly canon, of course. We don't know if it was Rocks that called young Kaido at all. It could have been Captain John -- so far we saw no depiction of Rocks wearing any kind of hats, even as a silhouette
@radaro.9682
11 ай бұрын
Hey, you're unpacking an idea I have had for a long time. Very neat! The morally complex and incredibly human man that wasn't anything said bout him. And one must know his real history to know him. This is similar to real life quite a bit. Rocks is the revolutionary that says "all of them are part of the problem, kill everyone". Luffy will be the one that says "remove their source of power and they are just regular folks. Then we can have a party and everyone can be friends." Simple, sure. But Oda has a way of taking complex things such a fairly complex political theory and makes it understandable. I have long held that one thing One Piece is Oda's thesis on a successful revolution. There is way too much nuance on this specific topic to not be. Obviously there are other points and meanings to take but this is one of them.
@sonofcronos7831
11 ай бұрын
Everyone can be friends, but no the Tenryuubito. Doflamingo lost all of his powers and he became a monster even more that he would be in Mary Geoise. The elite class that lost their powers would just try to take it back again, so a complete reeducation of them is needed at least.
@radaro.9682
11 ай бұрын
@@sonofcronos7831 Right, but now you're starting to add nuance and we can do that all day. I was trying to distill the core of their thought process. Personally, no, I don't expect those with power to react well to losing it. But that is their choice, not the goal. And even if the goal is unobtainable, the journey towards it accomplishes good in and of itself.
@mingo1337
9 ай бұрын
Anyone who claps celestial dragons is a hero, idc what else he did 😂😂😂😂
@FatManJackson
11 ай бұрын
I think he is somewhere in between Kaido and Roger. The government hates him like Roger, because he opposed them. But he also is more violent and aggressive than Roger, similar to Kaido who believes in the "rule of the strongest".
@patricknez7258
11 ай бұрын
So fascinated to find out Rocks's story
@Jackies_and_Chans
11 ай бұрын
Video is so deep and many of these things correlate to our world, but obviously we shouldn't get into that. Roger and Garp were fighting Rocks because he was going to take all the food for himsepf and not leave any for slaves. Good enough reason to fight for those two, I think
@patricknez7258
11 ай бұрын
7:14 spot on that feels like a great insight to me. Rocks was probably like Blackbeard, I agree
@luiseusebio4203
11 ай бұрын
Finally a Moej video. It’s been a while
@kefkapalazzo1
11 ай бұрын
A week?
@Ron1840
11 ай бұрын
This will put Roger and Garp in a whole new and uncomfortable light. Also kind of eerily similar to today with how the "terrorist" label gets thrown around and who it's coming from.
@fadimitry
11 ай бұрын
What if rocks actually killed one of the gorosei that’s why there is the younger looking one and also the government is so ashamed of the fact that on of their rulers was killed in their territory’s
@Zxaparts
10 ай бұрын
This is my theory on rocks, he roger and garp probably know each other since kids, and consider each other rival just like sabo ace and luffy, oda might follow the concept of japan 3 liberators in sengoku era, nobunaga hideyoshi and ieyasu, rocks probably a good guy until what happen in the god valley because i still remember garp flashback during kid luffy wherein he tells he doenst care what path luffy take as long as he still follow the righteous path
@Smkymcpott85
11 ай бұрын
So rocks will be more of a sadistic Fisher Tiger type of character. Once a character starts to penetrate the oppressive layers of the World Government they start to see all of the ways the government oppresses the people. Like Fisher Tiger, action is then taken.
@gohanopbr
11 ай бұрын
Morj is cooking
@WINDOWS94198
11 ай бұрын
Rocks maybe recruit dragon as his last breath hope.
@NotInTheFace111
11 ай бұрын
Rocks is Luffy's Grandma. Nuff said.
@jacobmagnotta3036
11 ай бұрын
Nothing to do with this chapter but I feel like Luffy nika fruit isn’t actually a human fruit but rather a lunarian fruit
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