This new liquid cooled, small capacity 400ish cc retro bike category is getting interesting. A Guerrilla 450 vs Speed 400 video would be very fun
@hershchat
Ай бұрын
Agree. Triumphs have become a bit anodyne. I am hoping this has more character.
@mr.carguy654
Ай бұрын
It's papa Yam!
@ElwoodPDowd-ed7pc
Ай бұрын
Yes … i agree, as i have a Speed 400 … just for shitz & giggles !
@ripster36
Ай бұрын
No way sherpa 450 is going to compare to smooth Triumph 400. That 450 lacks refinement and I'm from India, I speak a lot more about RE than any of you. Last couple of months 3 Himalayan were reported with Broken Chassis and guess what that same chassis is used in this new Gurrelia ..yes we know Royal Enfield's are not know for quality or reliability (it's the least reliable brand from India) but since you are comparing it with triumph , this has to be pointed out.
@robshaw2319
Ай бұрын
The Triumph Speed 400 is brimming with character and ability @@hershchat
@LloydGrace1
Ай бұрын
I actually think it’s a really nice looking bike styling wise!
@daddy_coolio
Ай бұрын
It gives me RD350LC vibes!
@JamEWalsh
Ай бұрын
I completely agree!
@idrisahmed2659
Ай бұрын
gives me ducati scrambler vibes
@RRRRefuelRideRace
Ай бұрын
I completely agree. Now with the new Hym-i motor it attracts a lot. I rode the Himalayan. Drop by to check it. Cheers.
@exothermal.sprocket
Ай бұрын
Yay for accessible 400-500cc bikes that more people can actually afford.
@kriscotner7105
Ай бұрын
That white and blue is awesome
@therealunclevanya
Ай бұрын
It gave me RD250LC vibes
@kriscotner7105
Ай бұрын
@@therealunclevanya yes!!
@SSSTIERWAIFU
Ай бұрын
Best Royal Enfield to this Date. I'm getting one in GOLD. Awhhhh hell yeah that one looks sooooo fuckkkkking goooood!!!!!
@Trackandshield
Ай бұрын
Right?! 🥵🥵 it's crazy 🔥🔥
@anirudh-4112
Ай бұрын
Yes ducati monster type
@anandsutar8101
Ай бұрын
Base model white color is looking great than other funky looking colors
@sash0047
Ай бұрын
Exactly
@blackskunk54
Ай бұрын
Silver
@idrisahmed2659
Ай бұрын
yea looks super clean and stealth
@Nico-mi2pr
Ай бұрын
It really does, but unfortunately it comes with the old dash, not the new Tripper Dash. Hopefully it can still be added as an optional
@SunnyKim_
Ай бұрын
I grew up in the 80s. I appreciate these color schemes. So boring seeing all black or other basic single color bikes. I would go for the Yellow Ribbon.
@dougsmith7580
Ай бұрын
Nice looking bike. I hope it makes it to North America before I die. My closest RE dealer is 2 hr. away still hasn’t had a Himalayan 450 on its showroom floor. My Bonneville is getting too heavy for my old bones to push around safely.
@philtucker1224
Ай бұрын
If your dealer isn’t interested why not order one direct?
@dougsmith7580
Ай бұрын
@@philtucker1224 ….. I kind of looked into that but the hoops I’d have to jump through importing it into Canada are crazy.
@philtucker1224
Ай бұрын
@@dougsmith7580 yeh that’s why your dealer has no sense of urgency. He probably thinks you will pass away before he actually bothers importing some newer models. You can pay an import agent to do the customs paperwork for you and it will probably still cost you less than the dealers mark-up.
@Daxin2
Ай бұрын
Love the look of the gold dip 🤤
@marioguedes8074
Ай бұрын
Good looking bike, specially the silver color. My doubt is if the price difference to a Triumph is worth it
@khajaamjid4898
Ай бұрын
I liked that silver smoke as well but the problem is you wont get that himlayan digital console on it
@ghettoboi27
Ай бұрын
@@khajaamjid4898 always can retro fit it... It won't be that hard.
@ScootScoot125
Ай бұрын
@@ghettoboi27changing the fuel tank and 3 other panels would probably be easier
@arax20
Ай бұрын
Probably more expensive that way though @@ScootScoot125
@ScootScoot125
Ай бұрын
@@arax20 fair point Not a fan of altering the wiring on a vehicle, unless it's a simple plug and play job
@greekhiphopevents
Ай бұрын
It would be nice if they make a supermotard version of it .
@2wheels1guy25
Ай бұрын
Team Gold Dip!😍
@me1ne
Ай бұрын
Like the self-recognition and confidence in highlighting the cooler in the tank's color so it sticks out.
@percentbigfoot
Ай бұрын
As usual it would look better in person.
@tpp6432
Ай бұрын
They always do!
@blackskunk54
Ай бұрын
Yep
@idrisahmed2659
Ай бұрын
this especially will because of the fatter tyres compared to the competition
@Trackandshield
Ай бұрын
Yup. I was really disappointed when I saw speed 400 in person. I wasn't expecting it to be really small. I hope it is as big as I am imagining it to be...
@idrisahmed2659
Ай бұрын
@@Trackandshield same here speed 400 looks small on the road .... Looks like the hunter 350 .... But for sure this guerrilla 450 will look sizeable .... Mainly due the wider block pattern tyres and the tank size which looks much more substantial than that of the speed ....
@sgabriel
Ай бұрын
(Losing teeth from the rear sprocket would raise the gearing rather than lower it...) 0:47
Ай бұрын
Higher top speed, slower acceleration
@mtabishkhan
Ай бұрын
Take into account 17 inch rear wheel instead of 18 from Himalayan
Ай бұрын
@@mtabishkhan correct
@philtucker1224
Ай бұрын
Not necessarily a higher top speed but lower revs at maximum speed. (Top speed is limited by engine power)
@nicolaf970
Ай бұрын
I bought the 452 Himalayan and love it totally the Sherpa engine is very nice and quiet compared to the scram411 I had.
@duncancleverley6366
Ай бұрын
Those colour schemes I suspect will divide opinion… they certainly can’t be said to be dull… but you’re going to need to be quite extrovert to want some of them… a plain black option might have been a better decision if they want to appeal to as many people as possible… on a more positive note, the lack of unnecessary tech and the price are excellent.
@percentbigfoot
Ай бұрын
@@duncancleverley6366 the comment section is fully divided, all sorts of people. I guess that's why they have white and silver. While other colour options are more stylistic.
@Trackandshield
Ай бұрын
Gold / red hits different though
@dieselboy914
Ай бұрын
Yellow Ribbon is spicy, and I like it!
@johnstone7697
Ай бұрын
Looks like a direct competitor to the Speed 400. Weighs 30 lb. more, but that's not a huge difference. Other than that, specs are very close Personally I don't care for the styling and find the Triumph more understated and elegant looking. But of course, YMMV on that. I'm guessing that pricing will be much closer to the Triumph than the 350s. I don't see anything in this machine that would make me switch from my Speed 400, but it certainly looks like a nice machine. Kudos to RE...they're finally moving into the 21st century.
@hershchat
Ай бұрын
Pricing is 1/3rd less
@johnstone7697
Ай бұрын
@@hershchat Where? I doubt this will be the case in the States. A Classic 350 is priced only a few hundred dollars less than a Speed 400 in USSA. I'm pretty sure this new bike will come in higher than the 350.
@douglasalexander4348
Ай бұрын
@@hershchat😂 Your fooling yourself. Oh, and ever seen the s/h value of an Enfield vs Triumph ? Good luck with that when you go to sell, then you’ll realise what it actually has cost you.
@johnstone7697
Ай бұрын
@@douglasalexander4348 I can only speak for the States, but indeed, lightly used Enfields depreciate quite a bit compared with Triumphs. Also the dealer network here is very spotty.
@douglasalexander4348
Ай бұрын
@@johnstone7697 Yes, a good local shop here, but my friends Enfield is worth so little on a trade in.
@devilgames2217
Ай бұрын
Looks nice tbh, specially the yellow one.
@darrenhall6509
Ай бұрын
I like the styling. To me, there is the slightest wiff of 250LC about the white one. Which is no bad thing.
@wboeren1
Ай бұрын
My wife seemed very sensitive to vibes, she wants one.
@pggp273
Ай бұрын
😉
@G-Man01
18 күн бұрын
Lol, say what?
@sportstermissions
Ай бұрын
Hmmm, I like it! That white one, and the grey one looks beautiful! I already have a supersport, looking for a commuter and urban explorer...😊
@markellott5620
Ай бұрын
What a delightful looking machine. I've ordered the Himmy as I want to go off road. I think this will do very well, though.
@manishsingh7534
Ай бұрын
White and blue ❤
@samhill3496
Ай бұрын
Sized for it's market. Good looking machine. RE has come a long way in just a few years.
@johnDukemaster
Ай бұрын
I love it! Somehow it reminds me of the KTM 690 Duke. The red/gold one for me, thank you! Or the babyblue on the concept bike!
@tommycooker3996
Ай бұрын
No,it is not a long distance tourer. None of these medium nakeds are meant for that. But that is not the point of these sort of bikes. I’d love to have one of these or the Triumph besides my touring Harley.
@manishsingh7534
Ай бұрын
Who says , every year thousands of people use RE 350 for touring from South India to Laddakh ( Himalaya , India China - border ) 3,500 km ( one way ) .
@martykasa7864
Ай бұрын
They'll be ok, let people do what they want.
@ScootScoot125
Ай бұрын
Anything can be a tourer if you're adventurous enough ;)
@percentbigfoot
Ай бұрын
@@manishsingh7534 bro he is talking with respect to the fuel tank and not the capability of bikes.
@lightspeed29
Ай бұрын
@@percentbigfootbig cc bikes (800-1200) with large tank capacity but low mileage is equal to a medium cc bike with relatively small fuel tank capacity but good mileage, in terms of travel distance. And i have seen people touring on a 100 cc bike while 600 cc owner just worried about fuel and maintence expenses and not touring at all. So well, every bike is a tourer if the rider has made his mind to tour.
@randyholcombe4234
Ай бұрын
Looks good, love the yellow/black one.
@Dushyant933
Ай бұрын
11-litre tank is less.
@hakshayak2044
Ай бұрын
It's a city bike not a rally bike. So it's enough
@SarvanDhadhich
Ай бұрын
Atleast they should have given 13 litre tank @@hakshayak2044
@deltaandD7516
Ай бұрын
@@SarvanDhadhich 300 +km of range is good enough for this type of bike
@Nico-mi2pr
Ай бұрын
My brother in Christ, that engine makes 30km/l (70mpg). 11l is plenty
@vishnuvardhan8304
Ай бұрын
but the triumph speed 400 looks like a 150 cc commuters seen in India
@azizulzulzaha
Ай бұрын
Front high mudguard like the himalayan would look sick, almost ducati urban motard-ishhh
@martykasa7864
Ай бұрын
This, def this. Himalayan 450 looks terrible... But the 17" wheels and a lower non periscope headlight make a YUGE difference. Whoever did this naked 450 Himalayan did a waaaaaaaaay better job then the 411 himalyan / scram 411... Mostly because of the headlight height.
@henrysmith5604
Ай бұрын
White and Blue I think
@benschofield7565
Ай бұрын
Brava blue, the wheel and the frame pop!
@percentbigfoot
Ай бұрын
@@benschofield7565 yes I like the white and the black purple as well.
@ScoobyFermentation
Ай бұрын
I’m surprised more people are complaining about the engine vibes in the Himalayan considering it is meant for adventure touring. Wouldn’t that be a deal killer?
@percentbigfoot
Ай бұрын
@@ScoobyFermentation people are not used to vibes in single cylinder bikes? Also it isn't annoying vibes. They just prefer the old feeling of no vibes in air cooled 411.
@michellewilson8845
Ай бұрын
The silver or white one for me. Thought the speed 400 was the bee's n ee's when it came out but this just blows me away
@AsmodeusT
Ай бұрын
I was so dissapointed with the new Himalayan! The colorways were absolutely tragic! The overall design was poor compared with the original but the paint options were the worst I have seen on a Royal Enfield. I was truly looking forward to it too. The black and gold wasnt bad but the others were hideous. This looks much better. Not as nice as some of their other bikes. But miles better than the Himalayan in my humble opinion.
@Desmo904
Ай бұрын
It reminds me of the styling of the Ducati Scrambler.
@spidboy42
Ай бұрын
Facts
@CaseyJones88
Ай бұрын
Yup, very close
@stronginthesun
Ай бұрын
At half the price
@mygraylady-c706
Ай бұрын
Great looking bike and I’m really impressed by the 400ish bikes. My only concern is these singles turn into rattle traps at interstate speeds. Hey Bob, when you going to do a follow up on the Husky 401?
@mrabrasive51
Ай бұрын
Someone needs get the specs from the old honda 450 dohc engine and build a naked b8ke around it..one of the best 450 twin motors ever built!
@b.kune.4073
Ай бұрын
Because they dont mess with the colours, gold forks and silver clocks, I would prefer the Enfield 👍
@Markko457
Ай бұрын
It's high time that Yamaha need to bring XSR 155 to India under 2 lakh 👍🏽
@ianleaver4967
Ай бұрын
Love the colour options 👍
@pimozidecentre9189
Ай бұрын
The styling, colours, ground clearance and the look of the tyres the Guerilla looks a bit like a Ducati Scrambler to me, same power as a Sixty2...
@peterd3215
Ай бұрын
The best thing about Enfields is the rear brake. Country roads, rear brake and lean it in, less weight pushing down on the front. So much stronger than Japanese bikes.
@snoopycharlie8718
Ай бұрын
Ducati Scrambler style on a budget?
@johnharris7353
Ай бұрын
RE's are good looking, but not sure how good they are! I guess we'll find out.
@hershchat
Ай бұрын
It’s ok that we talk so much about looks. It will also help to have some reflections on usability… for commuting, and for touring. I realize you’ll need to ride the bike to have specific thoughts. However, as a reviewer, & a motorcycle savant and lover, you know, in general, where this style and class of motorcycles fall in the use space. Tell us, remind us, convene that discussion. We spend WAYYY to much breath on how a bike looks.
@vkrishna0612
Ай бұрын
It felt very ducati scrambler icon like to me.
@jeffhudspeth6397
Ай бұрын
I’m really excited about this bike. It looks like lots of fun! I love the khaki color with red highlights. It would make a great garage mate for my Goldwing.
@ivanbrasla
Ай бұрын
I don't like the looks of the front suspension covers (I do appreciate the functionality though). I would also like the painted section in the front mudguard to extend all the way, instead of having black plastic at the end
@jacobrosario9735
Ай бұрын
Really? I absolutely love that part
@GabrielGalo
Ай бұрын
Looks a little like a XSR line, but not to good, 11L tank is very bad. Why few companys made fuel tank with more than 14L?
@josepdionisserentillchaube4367
Ай бұрын
I actually saw this bikes on the 17th July in Barcelona. I was going to the office in my M937 and they really look very nice and big. (Almost bigger than my monster) I was surprised that they can maintain decent speed uphill in Montjuïc. I didn't knew what model where and i was expecting not to keep up with me in the corners. I was not pushing it because it was 07:20 in the mornig and i didn't even had breakfast but they took 3 corners and a roundabound in a lively pace. They look nice and seem a lot of fun.
@johnkirkby4959
Ай бұрын
A rubber belt final drive would be nice for it and the competition in this class.
@HosuyakawaYazuki-
Ай бұрын
I don't think is "hotly anticipated". What makes it more interesting than Speed 400?...well, nothing. BTW bike costs in India 239,000 rupees, or the equivalent of just under £2,200, and here in UK £4850, this reminds me why in this country only old people use bikes.
@yathishbl3757
Ай бұрын
So you know any bike costing 2200 pounds in UK?
@abhishekmaurya4665
Ай бұрын
That was introductory offer, the bike has already balloned in price in india
@Navzar99
Ай бұрын
@@abhishekmaurya4665 I haven't heard of the term "introductory offer", how does it work? I would guess that the first few hundreds of units are cheaper directly form the dealers and then it rises to a "normal" price?
@ananddarnal6702
Ай бұрын
Idk why everyone ignores Torque figures lol
@abhishekmaurya4665
Ай бұрын
@@Navzar99 well generally the first lot of these bikes or even cars have some hiccups, especially if they are a new platform and most people know that so these companies just sell them at discounted rates, that's all.
@terrybrooks7140
Ай бұрын
Triumph 400 wins on build and cheaper road tax bracket in uk
@NoTime4BS7
Ай бұрын
That purple and yellow is sexy. Of course this is coming out right after I picked up a hunter 350. I hope the seating is just as low and comfortable.
@G-Man01
18 күн бұрын
I think they should have made the gold/red the top spec instead of the yellow/purple.
@niloyd
Ай бұрын
It is the best looking of the lot! Very nice proportions, those chunky tires are a deal maker. :)
@philtucker1224
Ай бұрын
Water cooling doesn’t increase engine power. Power is determined by the amount of fuel air mixture in the combustion chamber at the point of ignition.
@tatasth8559
26 күн бұрын
Cooling system does effect engine performance for example cf moto's 450 engine is liquid cooled but gives same mileage as RE's air & oil cooled 650 that is 22km/l.
@philtucker1224
25 күн бұрын
@@tatasth8559 yes the beauty of liquid cooling an engine is that you can design it to cool areas where you want to generate higher BMEP with the obvious increase in heat generated. ie through higher compression,turbocharging, supercharging etc. that may not be possible through simple air cooling. To that end, we may have answered our own question regarding the surprisingly low relative power output of the air- cooled RE 350 engines, as the designers may have found 20hp was the best output they could risk without coming up against static over heating problems, particularly in extremely hot climates ( like parts of India) where ambient temperatures of 40 to 50 degrees centigrade are often common place. Kind regards.
@philtucker1224
25 күн бұрын
@@tatasth8559 fuel mileage at similar speeds is generally determined by the power required to overcome the weight and wind resistance created by the vehicle so it’s likely that both bikes are very similar in that respect..
@barryjmarling
Ай бұрын
Good looking bike,unfortunately too low a saddle height,gotta agree about Cardo Packtalk headsets,absolutely fantastic bit of kit.
@shremich4583
2 күн бұрын
looks nice, except the radiator
@CowboyJuice
Ай бұрын
I've owned and out on 2000+ miles on my scram 411 in the past month and a half. Tripper pod is worse than useless. And I feel like I should knock down a tooth because in America top speed is iffy. I still love my bike
@rak1486
Ай бұрын
Smoke silver is the go
@Trackandshield
Ай бұрын
That gold dip is soo appealing 🥵🥵
@bfarm44
Ай бұрын
Nice but still won’t unseat the Triumph for me in this category
@ridinlyf4421
Ай бұрын
Did I just saw the tail and indicator wobble at 4.13
@nabinchatterjee494
Ай бұрын
Is it pillion friendly? Which seat is better for a pillion rider ? Stock seat or flat bench seat ?
@speedyskidz
Ай бұрын
Gold dip all the way!!!
@MrAndrew1953
Ай бұрын
I own a CB500F so I’d be interested to see Enfield release a twin version of this engine. 11 litres is too small.
@martykasa7864
Ай бұрын
The tank is still funny looking, but not bad over all.
@bobz1736
Ай бұрын
Nice one, Bob ! How does it manage to weigh as much as my Triumph Trident 660 triple ???
@GeekforSpeed
Ай бұрын
Cuz it's physically larger. Especially in terms of length and wheelbase which translates to more room (generally).
@user-yh8op2cj4i
Ай бұрын
Minimal plastics are used build is mostly metal
@Stinkyfish723
Ай бұрын
Because Truimph is a premium brand and RE is a budget brand - duh.
@wellingtons.cassiano3002
Ай бұрын
Very nice bike, silly name. Want one.
@jaydiggy86
Ай бұрын
For the love of god enfield, just release the classic 650 ffs
@percentbigfoot
Ай бұрын
@@jaydiggy86 next year or late this year, a scram 650 is due and a 350 bobber as well.
@thomasbeckley9187
Ай бұрын
Hey, when are we going to get the long-term review on the svartpilen 401?
@MudaholicJR
Ай бұрын
I was completely invested into the Himalayan 450, deposit down etc. Then i test rode it and couldn't wait to get off it. Everything vibrates. Unless they've somehow dampened that out, nothing with the sherpa interests me in the slightest.
@DenizDivine
Ай бұрын
still waiting for more 650 bikes (or even more cc finally)
@xNemesiSxPR
Ай бұрын
wow that sucks that is like that, the silver looks the bettter and more simplebut if its the one that have the analog meeeh its a no no. The second better is probably the yellow/vioiet one and the black, red/gold.
@jameswoodward8063
Ай бұрын
Looking very Yamaha RD350LC... Not a bad thing!
@flesz_
Ай бұрын
Would need to test ride it and triumph 400
@gerrybailey447
Ай бұрын
Very Ducati Scramblerish looking, I think they missed a trick, had it been a 450 270 degree twin, well it might have cost a bit more but I think it would have sold like hotcakes.
@creativeleodaily
Ай бұрын
Its cool looking bike, I hope to do a test drive, next month....
@troma54
Ай бұрын
And then two hours later you knew you needed at least a 650. It might make a ice beach vacation rental.
@snoopycharlie8718
Ай бұрын
Official EU RRP is 5,290 euro - Price Starts at 7,200 euro in Ireland :'( 2k extra for what???!!!
@claudiumxg1
Ай бұрын
White blue or gold dip
@robedmunds7163
Ай бұрын
Dropping teeth at the rear will make it less nippy and Rev less at the same speed as the Himi.
@petewelsh9978
Ай бұрын
The 350 hunter is obsolete already. The Triumph will have significantly less depreciation making the Guerilla 450 a difficult proposition. It is going to be tough for RE
@abhishekmaurya4665
Ай бұрын
At least 13 litre tank
@chidizzy6633
Ай бұрын
Love it in black 🖤 gonna test ride one 😊
@SteveW67
Ай бұрын
Looks good but why semi knobblies on a road bike with no off road intentions ?
@motobob
Ай бұрын
I agree mate - style over substance. I'd take a better performing tyre any day
@MasonGoss-rq1vv
Ай бұрын
I assume that will take the place of the Scram?
@nickronin9618
Ай бұрын
Awesome bike!
@anirudh-4112
Ай бұрын
Looks like ducati monster
@chrisbike77
Ай бұрын
...only a slight XSR Duc Scrambler/ CFMoto X vibe......
@fuglbird
Ай бұрын
Basically he says that it's a good bike if you don't need to ride on it. Am I right?
@douglasalexander4348
Ай бұрын
Yamah xsr mt 07 made in 2014 and way higher performance. Why is this so wow 10 years later ?
@1683clifton
Ай бұрын
Found some new rims for my mt03 eh?
@knzw25
29 күн бұрын
Nope, 11 liter fuel tank too small, 15 L minimum. Nothing against scooters (I drive one), but 11 liters is a scooter tank size. Dealbreaker for Triumph 400: chain drive is on the same side as the exhaust pipe -- ridiculous. Re: Guerrilla, real question is, how often does the engine need a valve adjustment. Also, I would prefer 150 mm width on rear tire.
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