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@AliHaider-mg9ei
Жыл бұрын
Do a compassion between rtx 4090 laptop & rtx 3090 desktop. I heard they perform same 😃
@lordedits8656
Жыл бұрын
4060 & 4050 lap vs pc pls
@fairyclssh1576
Жыл бұрын
latop is fake rtx 4090 just name
@MonkE844
4 ай бұрын
Desktop gpus are so powerfull than laptop's gpus
@TestingGames
Жыл бұрын
I would like to say a few words about this laptop, they gave it to me for a test for only two days, so I didn’t have much experience in using it, but in these couple of days I can say that the laptop is really good, very productive, and I was especially impressed energy efficiency and GPU temperature (although it is worth noting that the tests were carried out in a fairly cool room with a temperature of about 14-15 degrees Celsius), unfortunately I could not display the CPU frequency readings, but it usually varied from 4 to 5 GHz. So if you need a portable powerful pc and you have a lot of money, then I can recommend
@GoldAnxnymous
Жыл бұрын
You're the boss
@Tabbalco
Жыл бұрын
These laptops with 13900HX and RTX 4090 should be $2000 - $2500 MAX , selling them for $5000 is a fucking crime!!
@Devastationable
Жыл бұрын
seems like identical with rtx 4080 dekstop ?
@selohcin
Жыл бұрын
@@Devastationable Yes, it's the same GPU as the desktop 4080.
@gustavochavez4664
Жыл бұрын
@@Tabbalco The only one that is selling by 5000 is the MSI Titan with 128 GB RAM and 4 TB SSD model.
@ctsperformance1755
Жыл бұрын
Laptop is still impressive for its power consumption, damn.
@jacksfm6313
Жыл бұрын
the 4090 mobile is 4080 desktop that's highly efficient idk why they named it 4090 tho
@HeLithium
Жыл бұрын
@@jacksfm6313 marketing
@dd22koopaesverde58
Жыл бұрын
@@jacksfm6313 but have the perforance of a 4070ti a is a 4080desktop underclocked is the reason why not run like a 4080desktop
@thatguy3000
Жыл бұрын
I think it's equal to a desktop 3090 ti.
@ivofixzone6410
Жыл бұрын
...and price: £4000 in UK an absolute rip off. I had a gaming laptop , will never repeat this mistake.
@wazar4501
Жыл бұрын
That laptop performance is pretty impressive. It draws half the power even
@The_Necrogeddon
Жыл бұрын
pretty good but still 50% slower than the desktop one
@clerksmemepage
Жыл бұрын
Ye also costs 2x more than getting a normal pc with 4090
@RaulMazuchelli
Жыл бұрын
costing as much as 3x RTX 4090 desktop...
@ilhammohd3077
Жыл бұрын
Because it is not 4090..rebranding 4080 and slap to the customer face..so laptop manufacturers can mark up the price even more
@RobertleeEtn
Жыл бұрын
Yeah for 5k lmao
@Krenisphia
Жыл бұрын
A desktop 3090-3090Ti level performance in a laptop that uses half the power. Objectively, that is impressive.
@sickomode6440
Жыл бұрын
However for a two Lear leap I'd say it's okay.
@lordedits8656
Жыл бұрын
4060 & 4050 lap vs pc pls
@mttrashcan-bg1ro
Жыл бұрын
It is good, but they need to market it as a 4090 Mobile or something, because it's the same as desktop 4070Ti just with double the Vram, but even the laptop 3080 had 16gb and was more like a 3060Ti
@prafullrahangdale666
Жыл бұрын
Greater than 3090ti
@darianlee
Жыл бұрын
but literally very expensive
@WinterSnowism
Жыл бұрын
50% of power for 70% of performance
@Soulleey
Жыл бұрын
with a real AD102 chip in mobile with lower clocks that would be even better
@leolau6378
Жыл бұрын
And that‘s why it’s double the price!
@habajaba9603
Жыл бұрын
Actually. It's even better. More like 40% power but 70% performance.
@joejohnson8966
Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@刺猬爱上仙人掌
Жыл бұрын
in exchange of high price 😂
@Smart_boy2001
Жыл бұрын
It's just freaking awesome to see a laptop can compare with RTX3090TI & 4070 desktop such in tinny device !
@traveling_future
Ай бұрын
Laptop rtx 4070-4080 way better than desk top lol
@Smart_boy2001
Ай бұрын
@@traveling_future wdym? 4080-4070 can crash their laptop counterparts
@traveling_future
Ай бұрын
@@Smart_boy2001 not really
@Smart_boy2001
Ай бұрын
@@traveling_future sorry bro, I'm a laptop fanboy but it's a fact that 4070-4080 aren't even close to 70/80 desktops
@traveling_future
Ай бұрын
@@Smart_boy2001 for me laptop is better especially since I like to game everywhere laptop rtx 4070 is definitely 3 times better than my desktop which is rtx 1650 lol
@MaTtRoSiTy
Жыл бұрын
Performance is impressive for a laptop for sure... but calling it a 4090 seems kinda scummy since the performance difference here is worlds apart, more than just normal tier differences. But whatever I guess, Nvidia gonna Nvidia...
@velk_wanggoudan
Жыл бұрын
Lo que pasa es que el chip es de una 4090, lo único que se le ha hecho al de la laptop es reducir las frecuencias del núcleo y la memoria para poder reducir consumo y temperaturas. Talvez hubiera sido ideal llamarla 4090H o algo por el estilo
@niebuhr6197
Жыл бұрын
@@velk_wanggoudan de eso nada, es el chip de una 4080
@omeomahardad4858
Жыл бұрын
Finally Someone who got the point... People are just blabbering PC better... The laptop one got pretty low power limit even and it's extremely impressive as a laptop
@m8x425
Жыл бұрын
That's the way it is with laptops. Nvidia is using the GA103 with the 4090 mobile.... which is the same GPU used in the 4080, except the laptop is using regular GDDR6 VRAM. TG should have also tested the 4090 mobile against the 4080 desktop. Same thing with laptops that have a 30-series GPU. The 3080ti mobile used the AD103 GPU with 16GB of regular GDDR6 VRAM. I remember looking at GTX 500 series laptops and the GTX 580 mobile used the same GF104 GPU that was in the 560ti.
@intestines6343
Жыл бұрын
i dont think its scummy.. the performance is amazing, and the 4090 is the top tier in desktops so why not the same in laptops? its not misleading anyone either, nobody who is buying this doesnt know its not the exact thing thats in the desktop.
@bravshanboyev
2 ай бұрын
80+ fps with 4K resolution on a laptop is literally crazy
@coyotewall2669
Жыл бұрын
Interesting to me the temps of the laptop, averaging high 60s to 70s, which to me incredible, I used to have this old gaming laptop with a gtx 1060 and there wasn’t a day gone by without 90°C+
@prafullrahangdale666
Жыл бұрын
Mine is 107 *c avg
@Rororandd
8 ай бұрын
I'm so happy my 4060 laptop doesn't got higher than 75C
@snake2106
4 ай бұрын
probably old thermal paste or it needs cleaning, i have gtx980m gpu laptop laying around, that gpu consumes 120 watts yet even on full load that never goes above 69c or 70c. Reaches full 75c in hot summer days only
@fredstead5652
2 ай бұрын
@@RororanddReally? Which laptop is that?
@lissandrodanny6709
Жыл бұрын
I would like seeing the mobile 4090 vs desktop 4080, which uses the same GPU
@xTurtleOW
Жыл бұрын
laptop 4090 = 3090ti
@PainfulEditz
Жыл бұрын
@@xTurtleOW laptop 4070 = Desktop 3060ti ya think?
@lexavlogs7149
Жыл бұрын
@@PainfulEditz *3080 mobile
@PainfulEditz
Жыл бұрын
@@lexavlogs7149 How about compared to 3000 desktop graphics
@stone8519
Жыл бұрын
@@PainfulEditz 4070 laptop delivers perfomance almost as same as the 3080 I think
@phoenixlounge7656
8 ай бұрын
7:53 yea thats enough for me to go with a tower build
@evolucio9423
9 ай бұрын
This laptop looks amazing really. I currently use a six-year-old MSI Titan with a GTX 1080 and it still runs most games satisfyingly. I can't begin to imagine what gaming would look like on the Scar. Is running games at 120 fps, at 4K, with ray-tracing that useful? I'm sure you can run games on the Scar at 60+ fps with very high settings for years to come. The only problem might be the fan noise. That's the main issue on my now old Titan. It's perfect for 99 % of games, but the noise is starting to be annoying.
@MichaelK-lz7jk
2 ай бұрын
Use a watercooled notebook, I promise, you will never want back.
@ryuman757
7 ай бұрын
Definitely going with another Sager laptop for my next purchase, and can't wait for the insane performance from a 4090 (or whatever will be out by the time I have the finances again). Thankfully my old Sager that I got back in 2014 with a 980m is still kicking along strong ❤
@Chris-tu3xx
Жыл бұрын
I have an rxt3080 lapttop and a desktop with a rtx3090. Very nice comparison and a good look at technology. Thanks.
@3azf_El-piano
Жыл бұрын
Leave something for others 🥹
@joaonazario3764
Жыл бұрын
and happyness? do you have? lol
@lordedits8656
Жыл бұрын
4060 & 4050 lap vs pc pls
@CurseEnforcer
4 ай бұрын
@@joaonazario3764why so jealous?
@mkumar04
Жыл бұрын
anyone noticed,thermal management of this laptop is impressive (under 70 degree),or may be rtx 4000 series runs more efficiently??
@sirajkhan-bx5zl
Жыл бұрын
Room temp is 14C note it
@slowdown7x
Жыл бұрын
Jesus, that's a crazy amount of difference.
@raiosroguegaming
Жыл бұрын
thats the kind of monster my desktop RTX 4090 is everyone need to respect the second coming of the 1080 TI moment the new legend the RTX 4090
@EarthIsFlat456
Жыл бұрын
Laptop 4090 is basically a 4070Ti in terms of performance.
@jacksfm6313
Жыл бұрын
4090 mobile uses 4080 chip but it lacks gddr6x
@EarthIsFlat456
Жыл бұрын
@@jacksfm6313 It still wouldn't equal 4080 in performance even if it had GDDR6X.
@dd22koopaesverde58
Жыл бұрын
@@EarthIsFlat456 because lower clocks speeds is normal that run worse
@delasse3178
Жыл бұрын
the 4070ti on a desktop would destroy this laptop.
@expertluck566
9 ай бұрын
@@delasse3178 no it wouldnt lol
@RR-ho3td
9 ай бұрын
Remember that laptop with a dock that has two desktop liquid cooled 1080Ti cards? I wish manufacturers can come up with a 7900XT and 4080 desktop cards in the same dock working in tandem for current gen laptops.
@iikatinggangsengii2471
7 ай бұрын
its always been can since like forever
@leonielhouorilla8023
Жыл бұрын
Hi. I got 3 significant questions: 1. How much is the total build price of the desktop? 2. Will that difference in Wattage compromise a lot to the electric bill? 3. Is the Scar 18 Optimus disabled during that time? Thanks @TestingGames
@CreepyAlexx
11 ай бұрын
I also have the optimus question
@Cars.
Жыл бұрын
There is a HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO VERSIONS
@sirajkhan-bx5zl
Жыл бұрын
Check GPU power draw. Laptops gpu almost half power draw then desktop but only 20% to 50% impact on fps.
@omeomahardad4858
Жыл бұрын
Yeah Power limits... 175watts is not enough to to show near desktop level performance but still super impressive as a laptop
@traveling_future
Ай бұрын
Not really
@boyfromtexasschool8963
Жыл бұрын
I simply love that everyone is talking about Laptop's power consumption being used half of the 4090 desktop delivers. The fact that you can still make a cheaper build with desktop than laptop :D
@raphael6212
Жыл бұрын
but you can't bring your computer to class :)
@Qthetar
10 ай бұрын
Cheaper? You need to buy a monitor, cpu and other components PC ain’t cheaper.
@boyfromtexasschool8963
10 ай бұрын
You can't be serious, that is what I've said, you can build a cheap PC unlike the laptop, the monitors doesn't have to be top end, it's basically your personal preference unlike the laptop.@@Qthetar
@Qthetar
10 ай бұрын
@@boyfromtexasschool8963 if you’re buying a 4090 gpu you would want a top monitor and all those things to max out your investment. You also need to know wtf you’re doing. Nobody is gonna buy an expensive 2000 gpu to spend on cheap monitors and other components, also big reason is that it’s not portable, and convenient.
@androidA2
10 ай бұрын
@@boyfromtexasschool8963 you can buy another laptop, there are hundreds of models on a market. Also, you should include a top-tier keyboard, mouse (as we have a touchpad on a laptop) and 4k 144hz monitor. And you still can't bring a desktop PC anywhere with yourself or work on-a-go. PC will consume more electricity and will take a lot of space on a desk. Rich people also value their time, so they dont want to spend time for choosing parts, waiting fot shipping, building etc. (sorry for my English)
@AntiGrieferGames
Жыл бұрын
Would be glad to benchmark same power consumption on a laptop vs Desktop and lets see how it results.
@Sean94587
Жыл бұрын
Will be same
@lordedits8656
Жыл бұрын
4060 & 4050 lap vs pc pls
@mttrashcan-bg1ro
Жыл бұрын
I still don't know why they market the laptop GPUs the way they do. I get that the core of the GPU would be a 4090, but it's performing like a desktop 4070Ti which is extremely misleading. With the CPUs you expect it because they clearly state the CPUs with different names, and their TDP, but the GPU is just straight up the same name as the desktop counterpart which is like 50% faster
@divinehatred6021
Жыл бұрын
I am not surprised.
@cimbakahn
2 ай бұрын
The way I'm looking at this is, which one looks more realistic. I am looking at things like the signs (anything that has lettering on it), the buildings, the plants, the car you're driving and the cars around it, the character you're playing and the npcs, barrier railings, windows, landscape in the distance such as mountains etc etc.. Which one brings out the colors better without oversaturation or under saturation. Which one is closest to normal brightness in the setting you're seeing on screen. Which one brings out the textures correctly. Which one is focused better. It is extremely hard to tell which one is better. It seems like the desktop bounces between having great focus in the foreground and having great focus in the background. Sometimes the textures look better on the laptop, other times the textures look better on the desktop. I think the signs look better on the laptop and the windows look better on the desktop. The barrier railings look better on the laptop. Your car looks better on the laptop. The plants look better on the laptop. The dirt road looks better on the laptop. The rugs and the decorations on the floor look better on the laptop. The other cars look better on the laptop. The buildings (fairly close to your character) look better on the laptop. Once your character approaches the building and opens the door, the doors and the building look better on the desktop. The busts, armor suit and urns look better on the desktop. It's hard to tell with your character, sometimes it looks better on the laptop, other times it looks better on the desktop. I can't see any difference in the mountains or the sky. I also can't see any difference in the npcs. At the end of God of War the whole picture in general looks better on the desktop. When Hitman is indoors, that looks better on the laptop. In The Witcher 3 the building's close to your character look better on the desktop and the buildings in the background look better on the laptop and the mountains far off in the distance look better on the desktop, and the water looks better on the laptop. Now, if the laptop had the same FPS as the desktop, it would really be worth it!
@jimmyvelasquez5638
Жыл бұрын
Impressive performance, but lets all not forget that the RTX 4090 in laptops right now are not "real" 4090's. They are based on the same die as the desktop 4080, STILL they are going to revolutionize the laptop market especially as more games include NVIDIA frame generation in their settings.
@sephondranzer
Жыл бұрын
So just lose 50% of the performance and add a bunch more cost to make a computer portable, even though realistically you’re going to want to plug that into external hardware, because some 15-18 inch monitor is a waste of the image quality?? These laptops should be so much more niche than they are, but a lot of people refuse to aknowledge that a SFF desktop is a better solution for them than a laptop. If there’s really only 2-4 locations/ spots you really use the thing, SFF is a way better choice. You have to really need the on-demand mobile performance for this to make sense - how many people is that really? //My 2 cents.
@zonelore
Жыл бұрын
6:17 - how low 0.1% laptop is better????
@jumpman1213
Жыл бұрын
I can imagine this AD103 die would make an amazing small factor PC. Too bad they had to pair it with a ridiculously huge cooler...and an equally huge price tag
@iikatinggangsengii2471
Жыл бұрын
still pretty cool laptops nowadays can game at 1440 and 165hz, if you need more laptop than desktop think potential power is promising
@lordedits8656
Жыл бұрын
4060 & 4050 lap vs pc pls
@whitezzpt
Жыл бұрын
I mean yeah that's a large difference but look at power efficiency. 400W vs 200W
@EarthIsFlat456
Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly if you run the desktop 4090 with an 80% PL you'll still get 95% of the performance. The 4090 desktop simply consumes significantly more power than it needs.
@raiosroguegaming
Жыл бұрын
Thats a monstrous difference thats the kind of monster of all monster GPUS is my desktop RTX 4090 is everyone need to respect the second coming of the 1080 TI moment the new legend the RTX 4090
@whitezzpt
Жыл бұрын
@@raiosroguegaming well the 1080 ti was "cheap" at the time so no the rtx 4090 is no legend to me.
@raiosroguegaming
Жыл бұрын
@@whitezzpt times have changed its a bigger leap than the 1080 Ti itself in raster and especially ray tracing just because its more expensive doesnt mean you shouldn't not respect its power and price to performance leap from the 3090 and the 4090 it will become a legend in time you will learn to respect it and call it a legend right now you are too broke to know how it feels like to weild its power
@whitezzpt
Жыл бұрын
@@raiosroguegaming times have changed because of people like you. Before the pandemic it was: New products = same price as old products, now post pandemic were everything should be back to normal, New products are still twice the price of old products because people like you keep buying even if it was x4 the price. Nice to know that you compared the price of the 4090 to the 3090, it just proves my argument. More power = more money nowadays. I wouldn't be surprised if the RTX 5090 arrives at 2500$ msrp and you keep buying it.
@Respect-rb8mj
Жыл бұрын
Bro try test rtx 3080 ti vs 4070 ti I want to know how the rtx performance...🥺🥺🥺
@raiosroguegaming
Жыл бұрын
Next Video RTX 6000 ADA Workstation Card VS RTX 4090 i bet my RTX 4090 is gonna smash it in gaming just like my 4090 smashed it in 3D mark Time Spy. Thats a Monstrous difference between Laptop and Desktop 4090. Thats the kind of monster of all monster GPUS is my desktop RTX 4090 Everyone need to respect the second coming of the 1080 TI moment the new legend the RTX 4090. No Game No GPU can compete with the new 1080 TI Moment The New Legend RTX 4090
@Krenisphia
Жыл бұрын
Until the next generation flagship.
@raiosroguegaming
Жыл бұрын
@@Krenisphia what of next generation is for Next generation the 4090 isn't gonna compete with the 5090 AMD have lost even if the 5090 is the biggest performance jump in history and becomes a legend that's already been done by the RTX 4090 the 4090 will become a legend as the time goes on as the successor to the gtx 1080TI we are in this gen and the 1080TI reign went for 6 years until it passed the torch to the RTX 4090 the RTX 4090 TI isn't gonna be competition because it's gonna be insanely priced and present less value than the RTX 4090 for it's performance jump
@CurseEnforcer
4 ай бұрын
@@raiosroguegamingI bet your PC looks like a microwave
@simonifatovic401
Жыл бұрын
Yea this is absolutely MAD.
@bielhat-io6zd
Жыл бұрын
Chips(cpu and gpu) are getting more powerful but the laptop size(bigger means more space and more space means better for cooling) are getting left behind, that's why these days when it comes to high end computing i don't care about laptops anymore it's just desktop are the one's that catching up to handle it's power.
@phaniindra4353
11 ай бұрын
Now my doubt is clear i would build a rtx 4090 pc with i9 config and buy a mid range gaming laptop no matter how much u spend on laptop u cant upgrade in future and it still has lower fps compared to pc
@CreepyAlexx
11 ай бұрын
Good choice u should go with like 4060 laptop cuz 4070 ain't getting much and 4080 is lot more expensive
@francross6134
8 ай бұрын
4090 de notebook tinha q chamar 4070, sacanagem do caraio em
@fadoobaba
5 күн бұрын
Can you connect flight stick or racing wheel via typeC to A to HDMI etc. (multi adapter)? will it work?
@Kaiser187
Жыл бұрын
Not really a 4090 in the laptop but still impressive.
@artur_analitik
10 ай бұрын
How did you get CPU 75C during game with laptop? Why all others have 90+C???
@TrueRaps
5 ай бұрын
prob throttling it or using a really good expensive cooler
@shimmy2827
4 ай бұрын
Or probably not running it to its full potential. Maybe has it set to balanced profile and not performance on the laptop.
@chris746568462
Жыл бұрын
As good as performance of the laptop GPU is, it is still an absolute crime they are both called "4090". Stat/spec wise it's a 4080M at best. Calling it a 4090 is pure marketing wank. Prices for one of these laptops is also wank, especially considering you can build a desktop with an actual 4090 for the same price.
@royr5527
Жыл бұрын
The problem is the amount of power going to laptop vs desktop. Expected results in every way. I have the MSI Raider SE77 coming soon can't wait lol.
@prateekpanta6983
10 ай бұрын
For anyone who didn’t know, RTX 4090m is the same chip as RTX 4080 desktop, both are ADA 103. They have the same core counts but still 4090m performs worse than a desktop 4080. Where I live I can build a PC with a Ryzen 9 7950x3D and RTX 4090 for the price of this 4090 laptop.
@CurseEnforcer
4 ай бұрын
Where I live I can get the 4090 laptop less than half the price of 4090 desktop not to include the monitor as well
@prateekpanta6983
4 ай бұрын
@@CurseEnforcer yea? Which model and what’s the price?
@CurseEnforcer
4 ай бұрын
@@prateekpanta6983 legion pro 7i and around 3500 usd, and the desktop with 4090 or 4080 and with monitor it will cost almost double
@ABCabc-oh6uh
Жыл бұрын
Its because of the Power consumption, look at the Watts. Notebook draws (CPU+GPU) about 220-230, while the Desktop draws like the double of energy. Does the Desktop version has two power in cables?
@ignaziotravaglio49
Жыл бұрын
200w less than the desktop version, 50% less performance. I think this Is the real data to look at, because It shows how efficient the laptop really Is.
@dhaumya23gango75
Жыл бұрын
40% less, learn maths dude. 50% less would be half the framerate which is not the case here.
@BassRacerx
Жыл бұрын
Nvidia should be sued for false advertising.
@synstark6858
Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Quick question: Any Coil Whine while Gaming on the laptop and also while doing normal stuff like KZitem, Browsing etc?
@jacksfm6313
Жыл бұрын
you're basically doing nothing why would you keep the fans on
@Jakiyyyyy
Жыл бұрын
What are coil whine?
@synstark6858
Жыл бұрын
@@jacksfm6313 Even when an auto fans and idle some laptops may have coil whine, that's why I'm asking for both idle/browsing and gaming as well.
@KingsDR
Жыл бұрын
It's funny how everyone likes to ask about coil whine on GPUs. Like do y'all not game with headphones on?
@lordedits8656
Жыл бұрын
4060 & 4050 lap vs pc pls
@theproslo
Жыл бұрын
The laptop can perform close to the desktop but it's just bec laptops are set for power saving by default you can unleash the performance for a lot more better experience but I guess he used the default power consumption limit
@bconxept
Жыл бұрын
You're wrong. You can't defy the laws of physics. No matter what, you can not cool 400-450w of power in a small space. Any space that can, would not be a laptop anymore unless you had bionic legs. Have you seen the size of a 4090? Do you think they make them that size because it's fashionable? No, it 's because it requires insane heat conductivity and massive fans(to blow away that heat). No amount of liquid metal, rare heat conductive metals, or vapor chambers can ever overcome that limitation.
@theproslo
Жыл бұрын
@@bconxept bro there are outer cooling solutions for a laptop chill the laptop is in power save to be better efficient at normal use but some peaple buy cooling solutions like a stand or smth else and keep it with the power cord so that they get better cooling and more power I know laptops cool like shit but they can still get performance
@bconxept
Жыл бұрын
@@theproslo Performance? Yes, Performance of a desktop 4090? Hell no, not this generation and not on TSMC's 5 nanometer. Maybe next gen, but then we'll have a desktop version that will also stomp it. The only generation where the laptop card managed to get anywhere near the desktop was Pascal(1000 series aka 1060, 1070 etc.) and That was because of how insanely efficient it was, although there was no laptop cards that could reach the insane performance of a desktop 1080 ti for the same reasons as the desktop 4090.
@theproslo
Жыл бұрын
@@bconxept I'm not saying same performance but close one I mean a desktop would surely win but laptop performance can be better than in this video if in better use conditions
@bconxept
Жыл бұрын
@@theproslo Still no, you seem like a decent dude so I'm not going to slam you too hard, but here we go. The laptop 4090 could never reach even similar performance because A. It's not even a 4090, it has far less Cuda cores than the desktop 4090 and has about as much as a desktop 4080. Therefore even with adequate coolling and power the most it could ever reach was the performance of a desktop 4080. 2. Since it can't physically ever get the right power and cooling in the size of a normal laptop it will never reach even that. In actuality, the most the laptop 4090 could ever do while still being in a large sized laptop is about the performance of a 4070ti.
@maverick6c631
Жыл бұрын
Probably because Airport security requirement for battery capacity.
@clayman648
Жыл бұрын
46 less fps... idk I feel let down cause I was hoping the laptop would be much closer to each other.
@dhurghamadonis2515
Жыл бұрын
They put rtx4080 in laptop with lower watts and call it rtx4090 to gain more money Yea it is ngridia
@Qthetar
10 ай бұрын
You’re talking about 4K fps. That’s very impressive.
@clayman648
10 ай бұрын
@@Qthetar Yes I'm talking about 4k fps. It is impressive, but not the difference between the laptop and Desktop computers. Understand that I bought a GTX 1080 in a laptop. It was desktop graded along with the CPU. In testing it proved to be faster than the desktop. They couldn't achieve those sort of results even a few generations later. To be honest, it's looking possible for the next 5000 series.
@Qthetar
10 ай бұрын
@@clayman648 I mean ofc there is a difference. What’s even this argument lol
@XeqtrM1
Жыл бұрын
Laptop is impressive yes but here it cost about 4900$ I don't think it's worth it when most laptops you change after 2 years but a desktop you can just upgrade if it's to slow but laptops you can't
@brahmasthaandipramana7591
Жыл бұрын
Whole desktop with 4090 is also cost the same or even more expensive. You can't count the GPU only, what about the monitor ,CPU, and others components?
@iXyled
Жыл бұрын
So the desktop running 4k and the laptop natively @ 1440?
@gurtr
Жыл бұрын
Both are 4k
@iXyled
Жыл бұрын
@@gurtr The laptop is 2550x1600 natively so its running on an external 4k monitor? Besides why are the fonts sizes different. Im pretty sure there's a mismatch
@mkumar04
Жыл бұрын
can rtx 4090 laptop version beats rtx 3080 desktop??
@teslaliveus860
Жыл бұрын
It does for sure after seeing those benchmarks. It looks to be as fast as a 3090 Ti.
@brahmasthaandipramana7591
Жыл бұрын
Yes. 4090 laptop is almost as fast as 3090 TI desktop.
@Megalodon661
Жыл бұрын
Rtx 4090 desktop gets only 50 and Below fps at ultra settings ??!? Impossible that’s really low for a 4090 I expected much more power
@Qthetar
10 ай бұрын
What you on about? You mean laptop
@namaz_na_1_meste
Жыл бұрын
*1:23** - DLSS AUTO?* *You real don't know that this is not real test with auto?* *Why not Quality?*
@Jakiyyyyy
Жыл бұрын
At 4K, DLSS Auto basically put it at Performance I believe.
@akcartman1
3 ай бұрын
i wonder if you add liquid cooling for the laptop what the difference would add
@hoangnguyenvuhuy5535
Жыл бұрын
Bro hogwart eating 20Gb Ram is nut. Never thought that 16Gb ram is obsoleted
@AlexanderShen
Жыл бұрын
For me if you can get 60fps+ out of a relatively portable device is good enough for me.
@AlexDanweal
Жыл бұрын
60 FPS is on max graphics is enough and playable
@notagamer5301
Жыл бұрын
Its like 4090pc vs 3090pc
@fir2nino
Жыл бұрын
yeah but laptops in 4k are just dumb, why would you need a 4k on a 18 inch screen, makes no sense, this laptop is a beast and would be much better on fullhd or 2k res
@EarthIsFlat456
Жыл бұрын
4K on a 18 inch screen still has significantly lower PPI than most smartphones do, yet I don't see people complain about the high pixel density of smartphones.
@Jakiyyyyy
Жыл бұрын
If you use 200% scaling it gonna display the same as 1080p. But I would not do that. 100% native gang where you at?
@GameNest
Жыл бұрын
So the 4090 laptop is essentially a 4080 desktop in terms of performance.
@Zenbeau
Жыл бұрын
nah more like a desktop 4070
@Itsonemore23
Жыл бұрын
@@Zenbeau No it beat the 4070 Ti. The 4070Ti Chip is being used for the 4080 Laptop.
@theosclong1201
Жыл бұрын
a $5000 device cannot hit 30fps on 4k? color me surprised
@Qthetar
10 ай бұрын
Are you blind? Most of these are played way above that.
@Blue_Sky2077
Жыл бұрын
Ah yes my scar 18 still good
@CreepyAlexx
11 ай бұрын
Wdm still good it released recently
@travisdulaney15
7 ай бұрын
So the frames per watt on the laptop card is pretty dang good.... desktop uses 100% more power for 50% more FPS?
@tombenton3020
Жыл бұрын
Whats the udio noise sound
@levseneta5178
Жыл бұрын
can you explain this like on xbox series x or ps5 stable 60fps at 4k, RTX and ultra graphics settings. consoles cost 500 dollars, when a computer with 4090 costs 4000+ dollars. Why such a big difference? Is there not full 4k, I do not understand. maybe not the maximum graphics settings, BUT definitely high. I just want to buy a PC with a 3060 + p5 5600x, all the tests were fine until I saw an xbox for 500 dollars. I was surprised when the result was even better. + what's to buy!?
@marcosousaesteves
Жыл бұрын
Worth saying the laptop gets 60% of the desktop performance with just 40% of the power consumption. That is engineering!
@SuperPagt
Жыл бұрын
3 times the price also
@brahmasthaandipramana7591
Жыл бұрын
@@SuperPagt It's not 3 times the price. If you build A PC with 4090, it's cost almost the same or even more expensive than buying laptop with 4090.
@hoangnguyenvuhuy5535
Жыл бұрын
@@brahmasthaandipramana7591 bro the laptop is 5200 while prebuilt is 3500. With a good 4k monitor it is like 4k.
@poor_youtuber1390
Жыл бұрын
@@brahmasthaandipramana7591 hell no, an rtx 4090 desktop will always be cheaper than a laptop rtx 4090
@brahmasthaandipramana7591
Жыл бұрын
@@poor_youtuber1390 Only the GPU? How about the total system?
@Julio_nasty
4 ай бұрын
I don’t know why you would even want a laptop honestly when are you gonna need to port it around unless your busy also it’s more expensive not upgradeable unless it’s ram or storage it’s way louder has horrid heating issues
@PaNtHeRaW1989
Жыл бұрын
There is a %50 performance drop. That means almost an entire GPU Gen class difference. While it gives playable framerates at already old 1-5 year old games, nobody cares about the difference. But please look at Hogwarts benchmark... 20-30 fps vs 50-60 fps. That means unplayable vs playable. I know you can use DLSS, Frame Generation etc. and make the game playable. But still there is a insanely huge difference in performance and both GPU's are labeled as "4090". The most important thing here is laptop versions should be renamed like the old days as 4090m and should have a "price tag" according to its "performance". That laptop is not using 4090, its 4090M. A downclocked, lower powered version of it.
@darkfire3691
Жыл бұрын
It is 4080 die not 4090. The correct name would be 4080m
@gunsound2604
Жыл бұрын
Only human eye can see Out of stock vs Out of Stock
@letigidou453
Жыл бұрын
Another fake name. Damn Nvidia. 3060 8gb, 4080 12gb and 4090 laptop three fake names in one year.
@ilya_shishkin5160
Жыл бұрын
Please test the msi gf76 katana 17 laptop with rtx 4070 105w graphics card, if possible. I would be grateful
@prodromosregalides3402
Жыл бұрын
Higher power , higher performance all things equal. Only Apple thinks it reinvented the wheel and it is somehow more efficient ignoring the fact it has been relyng on the shoulders of a giant -TSMC and its more efficient processes. Now, that only the gpu for windows is built on a comparable process to that of Apple Silicon (cpus are still 1.5 generations behind regarding lithography for windows), Apple is feeling the heat. It has always been like that. Desktops are able to support a higher power envelope. If performance between a desktop and a laptop were close, then either not all things would be equal , or something funny would be going on.
@fernandog.ramirez.6917
Жыл бұрын
Though impressive nonetheless, it should not be named 4090 at all.
@khm6585
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking of using my saving for this specific laptop as a pc replacement but that not gonna happend now :v. Gonna build a mini pc and chuck a 4090 in there instead of gt77. Plus, 3.3kg is not a lightweight if I have to drag it around all day.
@maaax1173
Жыл бұрын
Desktop 4080 at lower power sold as a 4090 for 2x the price. Nvidia doing Nvidia things
@lukewray980
Жыл бұрын
You clearly hate laptops, I've seen your other responses about the same name, who cares. If someone is paying this much for a laptop, then they've done research, and it's the 4090 version of mobile, what are they supposed to realistically call it, if it's called a 4085, people will think thats a desktop GPU, if it's called a 3080ti, that makes no sense cause thats the old names, it's just the desktop alternative. Plus the conveniences of having a laptop over PC, screen, keyboard, portability, power in a small form factor and more makes up somewhat for the price increase.
@maaax1173
Жыл бұрын
@@lukewray980 You don’t understand. I don’t hate laptops, I hate Nvidia‘s anti consumer behavior. Why would you want to call it a 4085? It‘s a desktop 4080 at lower power, it should simply be called a 4080M. I‘m not here to debate of whether a laptop or desktop is better, both are different and you really can‘t compare them.
@lukewray980
Жыл бұрын
@@maaax1173 it's the laptop alternative of the "best in range - 4090" so it's called a 4090, they can't just give it a lower label of a 4080, that wouldn't make at all anymore sense. And you realize this is the case with amd as well, look at their range and if you say it's not the same with price increase, then you are deluded
@maaax1173
Жыл бұрын
@@lukewray980 Are you high? The GPU die tier and size in the laptop "4090" is literally the exact same as in a desktop 4080. There is no reason to call it a 4090, other than to mislead customers. It‘s about as far away as you can be from a real 4090, none of the specs match. If they‘re not willing to put an AD102 in a laptop, fine, just don‘t call it a 4090 because it isn‘t. The best card doesn’t need to be named xx90, xx80 has been the high end forever before Ampere
@maaax1173
Жыл бұрын
@@lukewray980 Who would‘ve thought, not replying anymore after you realized you were wrong? Pretty typical though, most people can‘t admit mistakes and their own wrong-doing
@shubhamwr
Ай бұрын
People calling this impressive should note that rtx 4090 name allows nvidea and laptop manufacturers to rip off consumer's pocket by selling these laptops at enormous price. They could have just named this card as rtx 4070
@arianhaddadi1616
Жыл бұрын
Isn’t Scar 18’s screen QHD+? How did you run 4K on it? External display?
@mersvirus9593
Жыл бұрын
Dude you can always use 4k on a 2k screen
@arianhaddadi1616
Жыл бұрын
@@mersvirus9593 how? I haven't seen any game letting me configure the resolution to a higher resolution than my display's
@Jakiyyyyy
Жыл бұрын
@@arianhaddadi1616 If you use Ryzen there are a thing called VSR. On NVIDIA not sure what it's called. You can emitate larger resolutions than your native res on your internal display.
@alyaparkteam4793
Жыл бұрын
Laptop 4090 more like desktop RTX 4080 with Lower clock speeds.
@mrdizzyYT
Жыл бұрын
If im correct, it got turbo mode
@AlexVuhh
7 ай бұрын
The DLSS technology is on?
@acemixer
18 күн бұрын
Yeah laptop version is cool but damn desktop PC is master race still...
@DipSet85
Жыл бұрын
For the half the price of the laptop you can build a better pc
@CreepyAlexx
11 ай бұрын
Not better but decent pc
@DipSet85
11 ай бұрын
@@CreepyAlexx A 4090 laptop in UK is about 3500 GBP give or take. For about 1750 - 2000 you can build a complete PC with a decent Gaming Monitor that would operate better. 4080 desktop which you can OC I7 processor Some good ram And a 144hz IPS 27 inch gaming monitor. That will beat any 4090 laptop All brand new RRP prices quoted
@Qthetar
10 ай бұрын
@@DipSet85are you dûmb? 4090 cost over 2000 right now. You’re not counting a monitor which a high end could cost 800. There is also CPU’s, an actual desk, speakers, etc. but even then all this is not portable, not convenient, you can’t take your pc and play wherever you want. You sitting at your basement is boring. You’re downplaying the benefits of a laptop, the fact a 4090 laptop can perform like like 4080 desktop is very impressive, and the gap between them is better than ever.
@DipSet85
10 ай бұрын
@@Qthetar gaming laptops are crap just like your opinion
@destrixtw4403
Жыл бұрын
That laptop is going to be usen in counter strike like the bomba 💀
@anaskashkoush6195
Жыл бұрын
The laptop with this card to much expinsive and not deserve the price so sad that’s laptop 4090 can’t run game like legacy at 5:00 with 30fps lmao Also in pc 56 fps lol The GeForce so expinsive and not deserve it , also Nivida should fix the prices 😂
@amazinglyaverage590
Жыл бұрын
calling it "4090" is scummy marketing. If they called it 4090M i would have bought one.
@apotato5563
Жыл бұрын
There comes a point when even with divorced parents it makes sence to just buy 2 desktops instead of one oem laptop
@jimewelsh
2 ай бұрын
I got the Acer predator triton 17x with a 4090 and I'm not getting that performance. I'm new to pc gaming bet sucking at it
@salteveline
Жыл бұрын
DESKTOP IT IS !
@user-of2xl7gn6u
Жыл бұрын
lol cycberpunk is introduced as if it were car-racing game
@whatisuser
5 ай бұрын
Even the difference between the frames is about playable fps haha.
@ReelyBad
9 ай бұрын
Nobody ever tests the only games that matter. Call of Duty.
@thephoenixchant
Жыл бұрын
Only 56 fps on Howarts Legacy? 🤔
@user-lc4fc6jf2x
10 ай бұрын
This performance is so impressive!!
@kappa3228
Жыл бұрын
Solid performance from 4090 laptop, but I'm more impressed by the laptop CPU 13980HX, drawing just 50W power and never going above 30% usage while 4090 is maxed out is quite impressive
@expertluck566
9 ай бұрын
That is THE most powerful laptop cpu that exists at the moment so yeah. I would love to see how that cpu would work with an external GPU if there was a good way to connect it
@SPEDRUNNER-i3i
3 ай бұрын
Laptop It's VERY VERY VERY EXCELLENT FOR GAMING ❤️❤️❤️
@sickomode6440
Жыл бұрын
To be fair they still offer reasonably better performance than the 30 series laptop GPUs
@selohcin
Жыл бұрын
Nvidia continues to scam consumers by giving their mobile GPUs misleading names.
@Dantido
Жыл бұрын
Yet another impressive Nvidia product tainted by scummy anti-consumer practices.
@bigbossjoga
27 күн бұрын
Test ASUS - ROG Strix SCAR 18 RTX4080 vs RTX4080 Desktop PLEASE!!!!
@bartektmpl2528
25 күн бұрын
easy dont buy trash laptops with 90 gpu temperature
@arthasss_4030
9 ай бұрын
2023 yılı için NVIDIA'dan daha iyi mobil GPU'lar üretmesini beklerdim.
@hamzarimi1859
Жыл бұрын
All the benchmarks you are making are very good on this channel - keep going 💝💝💝
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