Does anyone else find it funny that the name of the jail is, "Purgatory"?
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
I thought it too, but maybe someone in the government was having a bit too much fun with names that day
@nancyjaynes2868
6 ай бұрын
I think the entire area is called Purgatory , probably by the early settlers because it was so hot….
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
@@nancyjaynes2868 o wow. Unfortunate name
@nataliehuntfox8772
6 ай бұрын
I live there and yes, in summertime it feels like purgatory 🥵
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
@@nataliehuntfox8772 yikes ☀️
@victoriagrove5344
6 ай бұрын
Children are not evil. Moms can be evil and Ruby is evil, as is her buddy/lover Jodi.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
This series of calls definitely doesn't help their argument
@christineanderson487
6 ай бұрын
yes! they need to be taught not punished
@jajw1990
6 ай бұрын
The father is evil too.
@RendaJane
6 ай бұрын
According to Jodi, she needs to live in solitary to deal with her own food addiction. Like E suggested, they were starving her claiming that they were making her “fast”. Perhaps Jodi can do a bit of that in Purgatory.
@eleanorbarsic8065
5 ай бұрын
I hope that this gives exposure to the public-too many of whom believe children can be evil. I agree w you-adults can make the choices to be evil and too often do make bad choices parenting their kids.
@mestillme3026
6 ай бұрын
"I'm not done." She is losing her kids due to torturing them and her response to that is she isn't done torturing them. There is really no remorse here by either of them. I can't believe they'll both be eligible for parole in 4 years, or even earlier with "good behavior."
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
I did want to emphasize that this is very early on after the arrest. I do believe that people can change, but will admit, it doesn't sound good
@mestillme3026
6 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day In order to change and grow after terrible actions one needs to first acknowledge that their actions were terrible. Jodi still swears she was trying to save those kids. The only wrong that Ruby will acknowledge is following Jodi's lead. Neither will acknowledge the wrong they committed against those children. As it stands if Ruby gets out she is a danger to her current children and any future children she might have. She had a long standing history of escalating abusive behavior and psychological torture of her kids way before Jodi arrived on the scene. If Jodi gets out she's a danger to everyone. Jodi really wants to be a cult leader and was well on her way to achieving that.
@Fidi987
6 ай бұрын
Bevor I read the "journal", I misunderstood this statement. I understood, "I am not done raising them, they are not all 18 yet, they are still my children". After I read about buying land to make the kids do hard work all day, be kicked by horses, run into cactuses, I understand this as "my attempt at exorcising these children is not complete". She had really lost any ability to see the youngest two children, possibly all 6 of her children, as human beings with feelings of their own.
@geobus3307
6 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2DayNarcissists cannot change the focus from themselves to their children.
@astrialindah2773
6 ай бұрын
@@mestillme3026and Ruby admits that she believes that Jodi has mental issues, so why was she leaving her children in her care?????????
@kaviyaaditi7565
6 ай бұрын
This was his second time running away, he probably knew that they were planning to move. He knew that might mean no help if they get that far
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Such a sad and scary thought
@linnyw1072
6 ай бұрын
If they had moved to the desert,the two youngest would be dead
@kelliekennard8588
6 ай бұрын
It wasn’t God speaking to Ruby, it was demons.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Whoever it was, it wasn't good advice
@kimberlywhite7852
6 ай бұрын
The devil. Those two are empty vessels with demonic spirit. Don't forget the devil is a fallen angel.
@eleanorbarsic8065
5 ай бұрын
It was her own sick brain. She is not a well person and needs deep intervention, as do so many criminals. It's unfortunate so many in her community were affected by her misgovernings. 😢😢
@StarWarsAddict527
5 ай бұрын
No it was just she was a batshit insane lunatic who was gonna kill them if they managed to move to Arizona.
@bluecube7247
6 ай бұрын
That boy had no idea his sister was dying too
@MarqueMyWords2442
6 ай бұрын
The phone calls seems to show just how justified both Ruby and Jodi felt in their positions and actions. They are the enlightened one and the rest of the world just doesn't understand and have the insight that they do. The kids seem invisible; R&J are fighting evil, the devil, demons and the kids are no more than avatars. It's so sad for the children. This was almost to head to a situation where one or both of the children were killed. Jodi's take: "he did it to himself." WOW How do you help kids to heal from something like this? What is the process for therapy?
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
It definitely gives some insight as to how they justified their actions, no matter how irrational it may seem to us. As to treating the kids, or treating Ruby or Jodi, that may be worth a separate video
@nicked_fenyx
6 ай бұрын
Just found your channel, and wow - great job, man. You deserve way more subs/views. Keep up the great work. Your insights add a lot.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Thank you for saying so! Appreciate you being here and watching
@violinogirl
5 ай бұрын
I am learning a lot though these videos. Other KZitemrs are just presenting and looking for reactions. I am following this case,a s a lot of type of behaviors noticed in the abusers and the kids that were rescued, resemble in someway to a lady who recently got divorced from her abuser and cultist husband and his family. The problem, their daughter is still in between the two worlds now. Unfortunately, the judge didn't see or didn't want to acknowledge the fact that the man's lifestyle and beliefs are harming the little girl.
@theress9063
6 ай бұрын
Oh my goodness….. Jody said he did it to himself. I’m horrified. I pray they are released for a minimal of 30 years. Her truth is evil.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
It's really crazy logic
@renpilak6048
6 ай бұрын
Let’s all hope that the parole board is not under LDS or worship their leaders, or else the children will never get justice!
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
That would be a scary thing, if the religious and justice institutions were working to protect each other
@nancyjaynes2868
6 ай бұрын
I believe they both thought they were martyrs.
@zjay1356
6 ай бұрын
I read a comment from someone in Utah saying they most likely are a part of the church. It is a very powerful entity in the community. It's a very scary thought.
@zencat55
6 ай бұрын
I think an LDS parole board would have to keep them in as long as possible. The church fucked up with Jodi, now they will have to distance themselves from both of them. They will abandon them to the penal system.
@brisanikolina1537
5 ай бұрын
?? You do realize probably just about every single person working to save these children is LDS, right? Please don't sensationalize and bear false witness.
@annamai5918
6 ай бұрын
I can see them planning in their cells how to make the most money with their story with them „being locked up in jail for doing gods work“. I don’t believe to this day that they understood what they did to the children and that they are criminals.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, there would be a market for their story.
@melissarobins7073
6 ай бұрын
My CONCERN is the prosector is drinking the Ruby kool-aid. Listen to him talking about Ruby. I am curious if he is a member of the LDS church. Next is the parole board comprised of LDS members? I feel the church is going to try aand use JODI as a scapegoat and save the image by making her seem totally culpable.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
I think a lot of the discourse has focused on Jodi's influence because of her status as a mental health professional and her history, but maybe Ruby's journals shed a little more light on her thoughts and responsibility in this case
@melissarobins7073
6 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day I understand that Jodi is a mental health worker BUT Ruby is their mother which IMO makes her part in this way worse. Thank you for responding.
@blackthornsloe8049
6 ай бұрын
Was waiting for you to cover this . I really look forward to your videos. I'm realizing in a really deep way how we all truly live in different realities in our own head . It's scary how skewed people can get . It's important to really look at the things presented to us and to cultivate discernment . Ruby is very unwell but I can't believe the level of mental illness Jodi has .
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Well thank you for saying you look forward to my videos, that's very kind! Yes it's pretty alarming sometimes to realize that everyone has a unique thought process, especially when that process leads to harm like we see in this case
@brittanygray2742
6 ай бұрын
The child like talk is very LDS. Members are encouraged to be "as children" listen and obey without questioning.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Ah I was wondering about that. Took it quite literally though, didn't she? And I wonder about the tension of saying children are evil but that believers need to be like children?
@barbh1
6 ай бұрын
When she finally talked to the police, she said her lawyer, who she characterized as a good man who goes to church, told her not to speak until he got there. She was so obedient to male churchman authority, she literally didn't open her mouth.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
@@barbh1 I'm guessing that's a significant part of teaching from the church?
@amsie_86
6 ай бұрын
Geez I wondered why ppl never questioned the contradictions...there literally told not too.. wow!
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
@@amsie_86 I guess that's one way to keep order 🙄
@maccifyme
6 ай бұрын
What stands out to me is 1. How the kind neighbour is to thougtful with his wording when talking to the young boy. You can hear he really is considering the words he use and how they can be interpreted by the boy. Instead of asking if the other kid(s) in the house were detained, he asks if "they also have wounds" and if they can "move around the house". So thoughtful not to say something too upsetting for the boy. He's such a sweet and kind man! 2. How the little boy thought his two youngest sisters where in the house, when there were actually just one.Probably Ruby and Jodi abused the 14-year old girl as well? And clearly the children were separated since he didn't know if he had one or two sisters with him in the house. 3. In another video you can see the 16-year old sister is more reserved and the police are thinking she may try to run away, while the 14-year old seems to be a little more ok with talking to the police (about everyday things). Makes me wonder if the 16-year old were more brainwashed and worked as some kind of parental figure when the girls were at that house, while the younger was more defiant. But all of the charges are pertaining to the two youngest children, right? Nothing about the 14- and 16-year old?
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
The wording is absolutely intentional, and that is a very thoughtful thing for that man to pay attention to. I do believe the case is just about the youngest two, and possibly the older ones had just been trained longer to not trust external authority figures
@TheStephiecakes
5 ай бұрын
When social services was involved in my abuse I was instructed to lie that everything was fine because I'd be taken away and put through worse. I'm 40 and just now dealing with all of the trauma through therapy and mental health meds.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Wow that's really hard to be told to lie about your own safety. I'm glad that you're getting help and coming to heal the pain you've experienced
@nataliehuntfox8772
6 ай бұрын
I can’t help but wonder what put the idea in her head that her children were evil? Maybe it all came from Jodie but you’d have to kill me before I’d allow someone to abuse my kids and tell them they’re evil!!! I just want to wrap my arms around those kids and give them some love and protection. It angers me when people don’t protect our most vulnerable beings on this earth. It makes me so emotional 😢
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
I'm sure there was a lot of Jodi Hildebrandt influence there, but I've heard other commenters say that that view is not too out of the norm religion wise
@nataliehuntfox8772
6 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day I can attest that this behavior is in no way taught by LDS leaders. But evil adults can hide behind the curtain of religion and unfortunately many people do.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
@@nataliehuntfox8772 got it that explanation helps
@pnwlady
6 ай бұрын
@@nataliehuntfox8772blanket training is abuse and is taught and practiced by LDS. Jodi and Rudy are a product of their faith. They are not the anomalies people wish.
@nataliehuntfox8772
6 ай бұрын
@@pnwlady Thanks for the input but I respectfully disagree. I’ve lived among the LDS my whole life and yes, I’ve seen bad and evil people who may belong to the church but that is their choice. The church does not teach or condone this behavior.
@kirbierose2589
6 ай бұрын
It's pretty obvious jodi hildebrandt is sadistic. It seems to me that she goes after people of mormon faith and becomes their new cult leader. I do think ruby didnt treat her chikdren that well in the first place, but i also certainly believe she was brainwashed into doing this horroble abuse.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for your thoughts. I've heard many comments agreeing with you, saying that Ruby franke already was not parenting well prior to meeting Jodi
@slk1451
5 ай бұрын
Jodi and Ruby were being used by the Mormon church to create guidelines for raising children. If you don’t believe me look up the churches recommendations for books. I do believe Jodi’s book is amongst them and she was one of the few women who regularly had meetings with the higher ups.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Yep, just released a video with a Mormon explaining some of the connections that Jodi had with the high ups in the LDS church
@Donna-nm6yp
6 ай бұрын
Ruby and Jodi are the evil ones here‼️ so glad those children got away from them and hopefully they will recover from this horrific abuse ‼️
@Fidi987
6 ай бұрын
Every now and then in such videos talking about the case, I hear the wording "their kids" related to Rbuy and Jodi. Those are and were never JODI'S kids!
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
That's fair, misspoken on my part
@hadassah356
6 ай бұрын
Maybe those children were praying, and the LORD heard them, and got them out before she could move them out.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Whatever the reason, I'm glad that they got out eventually
@kimalonzo3363
6 ай бұрын
Just subscribed
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Glad you did, thanks for watching!
@PetsitterTails
6 ай бұрын
She doesn’t bring up the news first. You didn’t play the whole conversation. Kevin intimated that a friend heard about it on the news and contacted him.
@scottbattaglia8595
6 ай бұрын
Could you imagine jodie on the stand testifying "its not my fault my he cut himself from me tying him up. If he wouldn't have moved, he would have been fine!
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
🙄 I'm glad she didn't try to go that route during her hearing...
@scottbattaglia8595
6 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day could you imagine if those 2 witches took it to trial and those poor kids had to sit through 2 trials giving evidence reliving their heinous abuse. The whole thing is so disturbing and sad 😞
@carolmorgan7998
5 ай бұрын
Okay back up! Us Mormons are NOT taught to be CHILD-ISH, WE ARE TAUGHT TO BE CHILD-LIKE...THERE IS A DIFFERENCE! We are taught to be as children, not just in the church, it's in the scriptures! We are taught that children are the closest to God and Jesus Christ. This should tell what we believe, and most of us love children and would never purposely cause them harm. Also somewhere in the scriptures is said that it would be better for someone to have a millstone around their neck than to offend a child. This is in the King James Bible, standard for everyone! Once more, good and bad in every group of people, most of us Mormons love and are kind to our children, and not responsible for the twisted sick actions of people off on their own agenda!
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
I can see why you wouldn't want your faith to be characterized like this. I think this might be something to discuss with some of your fellow commenters who seem to have had some ugly experiences with the LDS church in a similar vein.
@patriciafinn5717
5 ай бұрын
Why did mormon leaders give her blessings..spirit of discernment was missing then..they were seeing her shortly before she was arrested ?. She used these men to terrorise Adam Steele and byu abused him too. So where does it start and end then? . I know mormons love their children but come on..this is sickening..😢😢😢
@flowerjpotter1629
5 ай бұрын
Why would anyone want to be in the news for child cruelty ?
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
🤔wish I could tell you
@jeanjacote5891
6 ай бұрын
That God speaks directly to her…
@zjay1356
6 ай бұрын
It's so weird when ppl say that. Maybe I don't understand bc I'm not religious but every time I hear that I roll my eyes. That's called having thoughts, ma'am you are simply thinking
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
How do you feel after hearing these phone calls?
@MarqueMyWords2442
6 ай бұрын
Of course, disappointed that neither woman seems able to see that their unpleasant circumstances are a direct result of their antisocial and cruel actions. They seem to reveal just how out of touch with reality they are. It's like finally taking a bite out of the sandwich you have been waiting for and finding nothing inside. They seem devoid of conscience.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
@@MarqueMyWords2442 some of the things they were willing to say on a recorded line definitely made me double take
@kathleenthe7th
6 ай бұрын
As an exmo, hearing the disordered thought processes they have brings up all the feels. For example, the “good girl” thing, still works me, to this day. I warn my partners that it’s all part of my culture, despite not being a member into adulthood. Kevin’s resident exorcist comment hit close to home also. There was a lot of mental illness that was never addressed due to lack of trust in doctors, and a preference for faith healing.
@kathleenthe7th
6 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2DayMormon persecution complex is very much a thing. It’s widespread.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
@@kathleenthe7th huh someone else did mention that it was a Mormon thing, what kind of feelings does hearing all this bring up for you?
@linnyw1072
6 ай бұрын
I have the most disgust for this
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
It's a disgusting and tragic situation
@Writer777-wanna_be.
5 ай бұрын
The most important thing is they care only about themselves not their children…not one time did she ask how her ‘babies’ are NOT ONE TIME…it was all about ‘ me…me…me… but her statements before the judge said her babies. But doesn’t ask about her babies on her very first phone call…that speak volumes she cares nothing about them. Ruby didn’t starve Jodi when she said SHE(jodi) had demons so why didn’t she stop feeding jodi to kill out the demons like she said she was doing to ‘R’so that lie should be what the procecuter needs to ask Ruby. I think Ruby is stuck in her childhood and acting it out in adulthood…..she was controlling ….so it makes me wonder if her mom was controlling and did things to her as punishment that she(Ruby) couldn’t bear ……causing mental issues she can’t get past and acting it out ..her saying she isn’t naughty is a keyword it’s from past punishment as a child being told they are naughty is why they are being punished …in my opinion. Even her sister was not letting her baby crawl past the border of a blanket …the parents must have over done punishment and not equaled it out in love.
@heddybe
5 ай бұрын
I like your calm demeanor. At 15:02 and 15:23 You've made statements about "their" kids. Jodi and Ruby's kids. They are not Jodi's kids as we know. To band them together in these statements as if they are raising (torturing) "their kids" crumbles the psychoanalytic analysis. Ruby is the parent and guided by a non parent. Talking on the phone with Kevin their true other parental partner. She says its hard to grapple with evil.... including him into the knowledge "you know that". She is saying to Kevin. You know that" because he's so evil he's been banished from the home. In my opinion, it means more to the effect of 'you know that because you're so evil you can't even come home' Its been done on many channels... missing Ruby's manipulative and condescending tone to her husband. She has to this point moved him out of their home that he pays for. Taken 85k from the savings. Embarked on a business venture to get land where the children can be better abused in more secrecy. She is masterful at this. She only got 4 years incarceration when certainly had her plans ebbedI on, Russell may have died. Its an observatuon that Ruby is at the helm of this. She has been the key to all this. Diligence to pick her apart from the "Jodi made me do it" because she did it. She wrote it down. She followed someone else's advice to justify her desires. True they did it together, but those are not Jodi's kids. Not "their" kids.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
That's fair to point out. I think I misspoke out of trying to be concise in what I'm saying
@judycook3717
5 ай бұрын
that sounds more like Ruby talking
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Compared to the hearings you mean?
@Articolate
6 ай бұрын
Listen, I'm not some kind of Ruby Franke apologist - but the "are we in the news" question is taken out of context. And framing it like this undermines the credibility of your analysis. The question was asked in direct response to Kevin telling her that he'd just received a text from some random acquaintance to share best wishes at the arrest of his wife. They were trying to figure out how the person knew about it.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the added context. I had only watched that law and crime clip, so I had not known the bigger picture of that particular call. Thanks for bringing it to my attention
@yvelaine
5 ай бұрын
These people have shared fantasies … religions.
@PatriciaLane-x2p
6 ай бұрын
Poor kids I hope they healing physically and getting to know what’s normal !
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
There's a lot of healing to be done both physically and emotionally
@joellenjohnson4038
6 ай бұрын
ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY DR'S LAWYERS THE CHURCH DIDN'T CARE AS LONG AS THE MONEY KEPT ROLLING IN THESE WOMAN COULD BE AS CRAZY AS THEY WANTED MONEY MONEY MONEY
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Other people have said the same
@fernandaandrade7552
5 ай бұрын
There’s nothing, absolutely nothing to do with LDS teachings. I grew up in a very traditional lds church family, and it was nothing more than patience and love. I’m not following the teachings anymore, but I can say.. the concept of family and love makes me want to go back and raise my future kids with the same structure I grew up on. This woman has serious distortion about the doutrine. LDS members never liked when she associated her disciplinary practices with LDS church. I have a feeling she would’ve been a fanatic, independent of which religion she would’ve chosen to follow.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
I like your choice of the word distortion. Tune back in on Monday, we'll have a new and completely original hour-long deep dive into whether this is a Mormon problem or not, with guest Abby Maxwell Hansen, a Mormon blogger!
@fernandaandrade7552
5 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day I’m very excited to hear from you, an expert, about this topic and someone from the church herself. I’ll be here.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
@@fernandaandrade7552 great! I know it was very eye opening for me, it'll be out Monday morning (Eastern time at least)
@onlymebaby.9249
6 ай бұрын
I subscribed because i like your face. Its open when you speah but your pin point focus is so intense. We'll see what you got.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Haha don't think I've had my face earn a subscriber before! Thanks for supporting the channel
@onlymebaby.9249
6 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day yay. I'm first.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
@@onlymebaby.9249 I think my wife likes my face too 🤣
@onlymebaby.9249
6 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day I mean in the comments only. There's the original OG, too, your mom. Lol. Great day to you.
@carolstewart4088
6 ай бұрын
Who is Judy talking to?
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
That is a good question! I'm not sure
@ericayoung8389
5 ай бұрын
I just always thought she was some jhon in kate plus 8 wanna be never And the con artist lady voice was so fake does not match her real personality clearly she was in love with not the kids what a joke obviously obsessed with her ! the husband hit the nail on the head with man hating 100%
@ericayoung8389
5 ай бұрын
Never Personally followed
@cuckertarlson5310
6 ай бұрын
I think Ruby is on the spectrum.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
What makes you say that?
@cuckertarlson5310
6 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day Almost everything about her is socially unnacceptable behavior.
@SendMeToTheVoid
5 ай бұрын
Imagine having to share a cell with Jodi🥶
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Oo... Yeah no thanks
@KarenMcAda
6 ай бұрын
I agree; the “little girl” speech is so strange and cringey. These calls have changed the way I think about her tearful speech at sentencing. 🤢
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Another commenter mentioned that that kind of talk seems in line with LDS teaching, but I can't personally verify if that's the case or not. These phone calls definitely add another layer to everything else we've seen
@patriciajorgensen4728
6 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Dayshe’s trying to entice the husband to tell her he will help her by acting ‘helpless’ and innocent. She’s resorting to his desire to rescue her.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
@@patriciajorgensen4728 interesting take
@mspjorgen
6 ай бұрын
See that his response to her statement is that he will do everything he can to help her. And she thanks him profusely. It was what she was looking for.
@yankeecitygirl
6 ай бұрын
And then 2 months later he files for divorce!@@mspjorgen
@Junitunes
6 ай бұрын
Her saying her husband knows what it takes to confront the evil in children really shows he has abused the kids as well
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Really makes him sound complicit
@Junitunes
6 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day I saw in another comment you were going to react to something next. I’m excited! When do you think you’ll have it up?
@christineanderson487
6 ай бұрын
yes! yes! why did they give him his kids back? i dont get it
@ellaella5537
6 ай бұрын
@@christineanderson487they didn’t . He’s trying to get them back though
@RendaJane
6 ай бұрын
Yes, but am I on the news yet? Am I famous? 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤮
@1WFran
6 ай бұрын
I'm concerned that this gentleman's address was heard.. I have the greatest respect for that gentleman and his wife for their prompt and kind response to a child's need for protection
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
I did notice that when reviewing this clip. I am glad they were there to provide help tho
@judev3197
5 ай бұрын
To be fair, it would not be hard to find their address even without that because their house is one of only three finished houses in the subdivision. That poor little kid knocked on two out of three houses, the 3rd being the one he escaped from.
@patriciajorgensen4728
6 ай бұрын
I don’t believe in her later repentance. Remember that she told the sister, on a phone conversation, that the court wants to see how remorseful you are; and we know how manipulative this woman is. She even tried to manipulate the husband by crying and saying ‘I’m a good girl’ which, instantly, makes him tell her he is committed to her and will do everything he can to help her. She is HIGHLY MANIPULATIVE!
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
It for sure sheds a very different light on the later court proceedings
@yankeecitygirl
6 ай бұрын
Her prison mug shot shows an expression that she knows she got over.
@TheRealLittleBiddle
6 ай бұрын
I am with you 💯
@margaretk1962
6 ай бұрын
Absolutely agree with you - she is playing everyone!
@lesleyallinson8738
6 ай бұрын
Ruby still blames the children for her abuse to her children, yet in court she pretends she was conned into this by the other women she should be in jail the rest of her life because her children will never be safe if she gets out
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
I do hope that she's moved more towards accepting her responsibility and role in this so she might move towards positive change in the future
@zjay1356
6 ай бұрын
Not once did she apologize to her kids or take any accountability. And the father didn't ask about how the kids were or show any concern about their well being. Neither of them should be anywhere near those babies
@MsCrazymomof3
5 ай бұрын
Her journals are telling!😢
@WooWoo-co4jf
6 ай бұрын
That couple were so gentle and kind with him, the man was trying to think of words not to alarm that brave boy. I'm so glad they were home. Something ruby said was jarring to me, I'm a good girl, I don't do naughty things! Absolutely repulsive, did she think what they were doing was in any way, shape of form positive or acceptable?
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
That's what the calls seem to suggest, that at least at some point she believed she was doing the right thing
@Writer777-wanna_be.
5 ай бұрын
In her mind she did think it was ok… who taught her that ? Her mom or jodi or both?
@MichaelaGronemann
6 ай бұрын
Just make sure Ruby Franke is in jail until the youngest girl is 18 years😡 Kevin Franke abused them also dont give him custody pls
@carolstewart4088
6 ай бұрын
Not just till they all are over, 18 but until Ruby at least is in menopause.
@caroleh572
6 ай бұрын
Kevin was also being punished and brainwashed into believing he needed to "change" before he would be allowed to go back with his family.
@MichaelaGronemann
6 ай бұрын
@@caroleh572 Kevin Franke abused them also long before Jodi Hildebrandt came along 😈😈
@barbh1
6 ай бұрын
I hope you listen to Ruby's journal. She's a lot worse than the phone calls. Also, look at Kevin's 2nd police interview.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Ah didn't know her journal was put on audiobook to listen to. That might be worth the listen
@foxibot
6 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day it’s in released files but not on audiobook to my knowledge. You have to just read it.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
@@foxibot well I released my reaction to her journals
@foxibot
6 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day ok.
@heatherbrenner8275
6 ай бұрын
To me this whole thing is totally horrifying, and I can't stop looking like a train wreck. One thing that really struck me as weird was how Ruby was saying "A spirit said your children are going to be removed." That really got me, I was just thinking if I got that vision or I thought that I would lose my crap. She is so manipulative. I don't buy her performance at sentencing as anything more than that, a performance. I thought that when I heard it at the time and I feel even more strongly about it now that all this other stuff has come out. I think she will put on the same show every time she goes in front of the parole board. At the end of the day I hope the kids come out of this all ok. I know it will be difficult for them, especially since this is all so public. I really hope that they can come to know that they didn't deserve any of this, it wasn't their fault. But I know how hard it is to really believe that when you have been convinced that is was.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your reaction and your thoughts. There is a lot that's hard to believe, but you're right, at the end of the day, it's important for the kids to be able to heal
@marcoquinonez352
6 ай бұрын
I think once Ruby realized she was losing control of her kids, 2 even moved out, she decided to step up control on the youngest ones. Since they couldn’t defend themselves, unfortunately, they were easy targets for her. Allegedly, Ruby focused on the boy & Jodi focused on the girl. Once you start believing that you are having communication with the great beyond that is when all hell breaks loose. These are two of the most self centered people of all time. I just shake my head every time I hear these clowns compare themselves to “Joseph Smith.” Why would they do that? That guy was a clown & a charlatan who tried to separate people from their money for years. Hence, inventing a new religion. He was kicked out of every town he lived in.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
The counterintuitive thing in your comparison is that despite being kicked out of many places, he had followers who were devoted to him, and the religion he founded still persists
@marcoquinonez352
6 ай бұрын
True. The stories always kind of strike a nerve with me. I’m not Mormon or LDS however, I grew up in Salt Lake City and lived there until I was 38. And growing up around that culture, I was always falling back to, “how could these people be so gullible and fall for this?” As a kid, I had forgotten to put the garbage can away one day. My neighbor said to me, something along the lines of, “you’re letting the guy upstairs down by not living up to your responsibilities.” At first I thought why would she be so quick to correlate the two? At this point, I was starting to understand how the religion existed in the community. I didn’t have a full grasp just yet. Then I told her, “sometimes forgetting to put the garbage can away, is just that, forgetting to put it away. I must have been 6 or 7 when that happened. That was the moment that I knew this culture would not be mine. And I also realized that my future did not consist of living in Utah. Now when people ask me where I grew up my answer is, “It’s a great place to visit..” well you get the rest.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
@@marcoquinonez352 ah sounds like it's just infused in the culture like you're talking about. Way to stand up for yourself as a kid though!
@cuckertarlson5310
6 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day What about Ruby and Jodi's followers?
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
@@cuckertarlson5310 that's a good point. I do hope that those who followed connexions are able to discern what to actually use from all that content
@irismckay6472
6 ай бұрын
So happy that R escaped. Otherwise, he and E would be in the same situation as Tylee and JJ. It's interesting how educated we are becoming as to what true mental illness looks like from this case. Ruby seems textbook Narcissist. "The most upsetting thing is I'm being misunderstood." Her kids have been so mistreated, people all over the world are showing concern for them. She obviously wanted to be the center of media attention from 8 Passengers, and boy, is she in the news now.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Yes definitely made the news, which did seem to be a major priority at the time of the arrest
@amsie_86
6 ай бұрын
In kevin franke police interview he said Ruby was jealous that Jodi was doing these exorcism with the hannas, he said ruby always wanted to be liked and popular at school. it remind me of lori vallow she wants to be special and wanted to impress jodi that she'd kill her kids for it 😢
@Junitunes
6 ай бұрын
Jody told ruby that she should take over 8 passengers channel and it would be best for her kids. I guess she said no but she stopped posting on 8 passengers because jody told her to.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
@@Junitunes interesting. Hadn't heard that before. Did the channel go defunct before the arrests then?
@kathleenp9643
6 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day jody wanted Ruby to sign over the whole 8 passengers channel to her. Kevin told police that their youtube manager warned them they were being scammed. Ruby fired the manager. Jodi wanted Ruby’s following so she could spread her connexions bs. Thats why she was using Ruby! Ruby had her own sick reasons. A match made in hell if you ask me.
@nancyjaynes2868
6 ай бұрын
They both think they’re martyrs….
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
That seemed pretty clear from their comments. I think the religious background really lends itself to that kind of narrative
@theress9063
6 ай бұрын
Ruby is acting like the victim. No concern for the children.
@dylans0630
4 ай бұрын
Typical 😒
@amyntazoe9831
6 ай бұрын
How did the husband allow this and not know what was going on. Is he not their father? I find him guilty on some kind of level.
@chrisharris9643
6 ай бұрын
Apparently, she and Jody were going to buy or may have even been in the process of buying some acreage in Arizona so they could " remove the children from society and intensify their intervention " .....ie, escalate the horrible things they were doing to them and make it impossible for them to get help. No neighbors to run to if they are out in the wilderness like that. I seriously believe R saved his own and E's lives. I felt a bit of compassion for Ruby at her sentencing. I honestly thought she truly was seeing how wrong she was.....but, in reading her journal and hearing her call to her sister and Ruby telling her sister that they were looking for remorse from her and Jody,.....yeah, seems like it was a huge act. I dont think these women should ever get out of prison . Their narcissism and cold manipulation is terrifying, and i believe it was only R's bravery and drive to get help that kept them from killing those kids
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Wow to imagine if they were just on a compound somewhere... Yikes
@leapingkitties
6 ай бұрын
Another very scary thing in all of this, they were days away from moving to NoWhere Arizona it would have made them even more isolated.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Scary thought that he escaped and got help just in time
@akathecatlady
6 ай бұрын
Isaiah, I found Ruby's journal and Kevin's 2nd police interview to be especially illuminating. Highly recommend you check them out, because I think it will fill in some more of the picture for you. I'd also be really interested in your take on both!
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
I think those might be my next stop
@akathecatlady
6 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day Thank you! I can't wait to hear your take on these.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
@@akathecatlady I'll do my best
@jeannemuller7625
6 ай бұрын
What IS SRA ?
@Writer777-wanna_be.
5 ай бұрын
@@jeannemuller7625think of the bad guy in the Bible that starts with ‘s’ add ‘ic’ at the end of his name then ‘R’ => think of fake /evil religious gatherings…with fire & smoke possibly A => Abu$€
@foxibot
6 ай бұрын
In my opinion “the I’m a good girl and I’m not naughty” is coming from some kind of shame that Ruby either has or Jodi made her feel or her upbringing in her church or all 3 are at play where she feels like she has to protect her purity and since Mormon religion has a lot of hang ups about healthy normative sexuality, I think even having sex within her marriage upsets her. She told her husband she didn’t like wearing lingerie, and doesn’t like having him ask her to have sex. She has shame about normal sexual feelings, because of her upbringing. I had a person I knew like that. Her religiosity destroyed her marriage because she felt shame having sex unless if was for a baby. And she would cry and sob and beg her husband not to ask her, who told his father he wasn’t asking for anything weird, just normal sex and so his father said it was because she was raised to feel that it’s dirty and wrong, even after marriage she still thought that normal healthy sexuality was shameful. They ended up breaking up although he tried very hard to be patient, she would refuse to get help. My father had said he shouldn’t stay because she won’t change unless she got help. I was very close friends with his sister. And she shared their situation because they were both sweet people and in love, but her complex over her religiosity she was raised with destroyed her and the marriage. He remarried when the kids were older, and I don’t think she ever did, because obviously that would be an issue in any normal married relationship. And she realizes it. As far as Jodi, the suicide side attempts and the cutting and her lack of hygiene is way more serious and deep, than I can fathom and she needs a skilled psychiatrist to find out what caused this disordered thinking and behaviors, but I also think she has shame and guilt and so she tortures others seeing herself in them by twisting that they are like her, when they aren’t. And she may have some kind of same sex attraction, although they said the couple that’s called the Hannah’s had to kick her out from trying to kill herself and trying to seduce the husband. So that’s confusing as I think she hates men. Or deeply resents them, like a female misogynist. Kevin said he thought it was just a bunch of female hating men that enjoyed bashing them when he first got involved. I also think he’s more of a passive personality as a husband so when he got push back and Ruby starts sleeping in same bed with Jodi he’s majorly uncomfortable but is afraid to say or do anything, we saw how Adam Steed said she isolates the women from their husbands and he also said that things with Jodi and his wife and family, things went from G rated to X rated. I took that as in regards to his wife and the unnatural relationship she had with Jodi. I saw her picture and she was a young attractive woman. So I take it he must have meant something was going on between the two. And he said that his kids had been abused by Jodi and he said he might even argue even more injured in some fashion that was so shocking by Jodi that it may even be considered worse. Maybe there was SA going on. When I saw those pictures of wounds on the male child with the necroses and the bone showing, I’m surprised that the poor victim didn’t lose his feet and that he didn’t get sepsis or some awful bacterial infection. The police said it was rotting and the smell was horrible. Even outside. He also had tiny scar scratches all over his arm. I know what a scratch looks like when it leaves a scar and he had dozens and dozens of tiny fingernail scratch marks on his arms. In fact his arms are covered in them. I’m sure either they did it with their fingernails when they grabbed him or the cactus they pushed him into may have. But it looked to me like fingernail scratches that left scars. The wounds on his feet alone should get them life as that skin was rotting and necroses had set in. I know what that looks like. And have seen it, so I instantly recognized it and so did my fiancé. That’s horrible. That skin has rotted and died off, so he will never be able to replace it and he will have chunks missing, around his ankles. And to put duct tape on the wound which will rip and tear more, and then cayenne pepper and honey is insane, which we all know Jodi loves from Jessie’s testimony when she had her mouth duct taped. All the torture she did to Jessi, she also did to those children. That’s Jodi’s weird abusive ideas. Because she has done this to other people. She also likes to cut female children’s hair like she did with her niece Jessi’s pretty long hair. Then you see the poor female child have her head shaved so she looked like a boy, the police thought she was a little boy child. By the way Doc, did you know that Paris Hilton said that Jodi Hildebrandt was one of her counselors. She did a documentary about the experience of being kidnapped and the trauma from that and being sent to this horrible abusive camp, where her “counselor” would watch her shower in the nude and she said they would just stare at her and made her feel so uncomfortable and violated. I bet you that was Jodi. I wish someone would interview Paris, I bet she knows a lot and the girls that were there with her were in her documentary should also be interviewed about Jodi. Those places are a Mormon run horrible rackets and grift situations where they pretend the kids will get help and there is not one qualified person there, in fact they did not have any training to deal with minors. Paris’s video was shocking. All the adults were damaged as kids and have PTSD from it. They did not have any qualified trained people to deal with medical emergencies or any therapeutic training. All they do is scream at them and induce harsh Capitol punishments which I am shocked no one has died in those wilderness camps. I’m sure someone has, over the years. I checked and they have had kids die at these camps. They need to be all shut down and outlawed. The state uses these places to get money and sends special needs kids and kids with brain issues, developmentally disabled kids. And they get the worst of it. They even sent orphans to these hideous facilities for money. These kids don’t have an adult to advocate for them, we should be ashamed as a country for allowing this. I don’t understand why they don’t interview Paris and her friends that actually went through this with Jodi as their camp counselor. I bet they have some gruesome stories to tell. I get the feeling Paris didn’t want to go into what may be considered SA abuse. I also wonder if Adam Paul Steed was intimating that his wife and kids were SA’d by Jodi. Since he said in some regards their abuse could be considered worse. I don’t believe in keeping those things private unless the victims don’t want to talk about it or don’t want it known, because they are feeling shameful like it’s their fault or that people will blame them. We have to De- stigmatize sexual abuse. And not shame the victims. And not treat them as if they are damaged goods. Because that is still happening. If she committed any sexual crimes then the world needs protection from her as well as the horrific physical crimes she committed on those children. If this happened it needs to be brought to attention of the police and DA so they can charge her with SA. So she won’t be eligible for parole. If I were the DA I would charge her for her other victims too. So I would guarantee she doesn’t get out. She is desperately trying to convince her followers like she did on that phone call that this is God’s plan and that she is a religious martyr and she has spoken to God and accepted her fate. She also said when she gets out she will write a book. Well, Jodi is going to find out the internet never forgets. Like the host of law and crime said or maybe it was a guest that said when Ruby and Jodi met this was like gasoline and matches basically. Because there were 2 women with serious disordered thinking that were brought together by crazy shared right winged religious views and right wing political beliefs. If that kid didn’t get out I predict both children would have died very soon. And like Jodi said she was planning to move, those 2 women were planning to buy a remote ranch with no neighbors around so it might have been a while before anyone would have reported the children missing and by that time their bodies would be long gone. It’s very similar to Lori daybelle and Chad daybelle case.
@nancyjaynes2868
6 ай бұрын
Jodi should have read Matthew 18:6
@rcarson671
6 ай бұрын
Your long meandering and repetitive rant is quite self revealing. You might consider a more appropriate place for therapeutic catharsis. I say this with kindness. Peace and love.
@julieswope1475
6 ай бұрын
I am so bothered by their thinking they are doing God's will. Maybe it is also God's Will that R was able to survive. How can hurting someone be evidence of God helping you?
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Some of the hardest beliefs to change or convince people of might be religious ones
@andreamoore367
6 ай бұрын
3 adult monsters. Kevin allowed abuse for years
@Lee-up4bz
6 ай бұрын
Jodi is cray cray.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Well that sums it up quite succinctly
@Dominique_99
6 ай бұрын
That dream Jodi had stopped Rubi from continuing to abuse R. I think Jodi knew she was at the end and couldn’t take any more. She tended to her wounds and fed her. Then Ruby really started attacking E (the boy ) with everything. It was pretty obvious to me that Ruby was the main abuser and Jodi was just giving her a reason and permission to abuse. She had no love for her children and if they had moved I feel like all four of the kids would have eventually died. One of the older ones had already given notice at work. I think in this case to the kids losing bodily function may also have been due to the deterioration of their tiny bodies. They were not only malnourished but were often being deprived of water. I’m not exactly sure what that does because I’m not a Dr but I’m fairly sure being in the desert for hours without food or water for days as a child or only getting small amounts can’t be good and when they did eat or drink their bodies probably expelled it I know there is something called overeating syndrome I think and they may have been experiencing something similar to that. Children in third world countries get it, it’s quite serious. They would also get punished for collapsing which Ruby would see as falling down on purpose. I mean if they looked at her the wrong way they were being evil. These children literally could not win. Do you know what I did not read. Jodi told me this what I should do. Not once. Not on any page. No where. Zero evidence that Jodi told here to abuse her children.
@aveleedeleon7694
6 ай бұрын
I’m so tired of people blaming Satan for their own actions. We have free will and know right from wrong. It’s just abhorrent
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Taking responsibility for our choices can be hard for sure
@christineanderson487
6 ай бұрын
why in the world would they give the father custody? he was into all the bs they both practiced
@renpilak6048
6 ай бұрын
Good choice of thumbnail! Ruby’s nose so high up in the air!! That’s the real Ruby! Not the one with the fake remorse she showed in court!
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Ha thank my wife for that, she's the designer behind some of my better work. Appreciate that you notice the choice of graphic for the thumbnail
@renpilak6048
6 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day , that’s awesome! What a team!
@thesingerintheshower
6 ай бұрын
I know what it feels like to believe that you are bad and evil because the person that you trust and is your primary caregiver constantly tells you that you are. My mother used to "rebuke me in the name of Jesus" and tell me that I was demon-possessed throughout my upbringing with her.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
O wow sounds pretty similar to what these Franke children have been taught for so long. What has helped along your journey to recover from those kinds of messages?
@thesingerintheshower
6 ай бұрын
@Therapy2Day oo what a great question! Thanks for asking. It's been a lot of therapy work, initially focusing on cognitive behavior and now moving onto somatic symptoms and treatments. Also, accepting the role as the ultimate authority in my own life as a fully formed adult, I tell myself daily, multiple times a day, that I am not bad for having normal human emotions or for needing physical things like shelter and safety, and abstract things like love and understanding. Safety is not just physical. It also encompasses the safety to be one's self and self-express. My journey is to be my most authentic self. I've also recently deconstructed from my religious upbringing, and that has brought new knowledge, light, and hope into my life.
@nancyjaynes2868
6 ай бұрын
@thesingerintheshower: so sorry you had to go thru that; keep singing!!!
@thesingerintheshower
6 ай бұрын
@@nancyjaynes2868 aww. Best comment ever!!! Thank you for seeing me 😊😊😊💗💗💗🌹🌹🌹
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
@@thesingerintheshower wow thanks for sharing and breaking that down. I'm glad you found people along the way to help your journey, and that you can allow yourself these basic human dignities now such as having feelings
@tammyloustorydickerson4447
6 ай бұрын
You're not playing the whole phone call ..., I'm not taking up for Ruby , but she was reacting to a friend of Kevin's text to Kevin, and how did he know..,. That's why she says ": are we in the news"
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the larger context. I only watched the law and crime clip, so I wasn't aware there was more lead up to that point in the call
@NancyBrown-xw8hg
6 ай бұрын
I was wondering if somehow a list could be made of what to look for when a counselor has gone rogue? It's kind of like à leader of a cult and how he can gain control over his victims. How does a marriage counseler convince a husband to leave his home and shouldn't that be a clue?
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
I did make this video of when to fire your therapist kzitem.info/news/bejne/zZx923iEsnOCmoo Anytime you have a concern, you should be able to bring it up to your counselor. If they are defensive about it, that might be a red flag. Also, if it ever feels like their priorities are more important than yours in therapy, red flag.
@sktmango
5 ай бұрын
This is not an LDS. I am a member of the church we do not condone this it’s sick. They will los their membership for this.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
I do hope and look forward to an official statement disavowing Ruby and Jodi's methods and attitudes
@lynnjackson8367
6 ай бұрын
I was thinking about the lunch thing with ruby making her 6 year old responsible for making her own school lunch........my mom packed my lunch until 8th grade. high school we got lunch money for a cafeteria but yep......my mom made my lunches all those years. God, I miss her.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Sounds like this video brought back some good memories of your mom by contrast to what you were hearing
@Mandafina
6 ай бұрын
Is it just me or is “the spirit/God talking” and justifying abuse, her misunderstanding what internal dialogue is? I also wonder if it’s a stretch to say that the little girl voice could be related to her own childhood? Like, she could be regressing!
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Regression came to my mind as well
@Catinthedesert
6 ай бұрын
Not as funny as Lt. Studley. Priceless
@fortyseventhronin
5 ай бұрын
What sticks out to me is the comments from Jodi like "All of a sudden I ended up in jail. What in the world?" and "Explain this to me. What is going on?" It's a mentality I saw with my own mother who was also very delusional and narcissistic. This attitude of "the world has happened to me" and this complete inability to draw connections between one's own actions and external consequences
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Interesting, like the consequences came from nowhere
@melanieeyquem9166
6 ай бұрын
Why did the father not get punishment for neglect?????
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
No comment there... Kevin Franke seems to have somehow steered clear of all the legal fallout
@GrammyChrissy
6 ай бұрын
She was starving her kids when she was still doing you tube. Before Jody.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
There were definitely some clips that led to cps reports prior to Jodi entering the picture
@maryw1129
5 ай бұрын
Her statement in court was manipulation to try to help her . She is a psycho deserves life in prison
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Potential diagnosis notwithstanding, watching her statement in court after hearing her phone calls did not make it any more convincing
@linnyw1072
6 ай бұрын
All of those children need to be un brainwashed
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Planning a video on what their healing process might look like
@sktmango
5 ай бұрын
We are not taught in this manner we are loving and kind people.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
I'm so sorry that your faith is getting a bad rap for this
@carliehumphrey1236
6 ай бұрын
I love your perspective. Thank you for covering this.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for saying so. It's still so humbling that people are interested in my opinion
@carliehumphrey1236
6 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2DayVery much so. I love your channel.
@sueelliott3206
5 ай бұрын
Just subscribed, I love your videos.
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Thanks so much
@maryloumata4904
6 ай бұрын
Jodi, belongs in prison and Ruby too!
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Well they are at least there for the time being
@komandantData
5 ай бұрын
Imo they should not be released until at least the youngest of the children are full of age. In no way, shape or form should the victims be exposed to influence, let alone released to custody of their biological mother. And Jodi should not be released until maximum time served.
@steviasativa9803
5 ай бұрын
“I’m going dark” please, yall have been dark lol
@thirdwavenewsstationrachel8448
5 ай бұрын
Jodie repeats in 3’s and 4’s “come at me”.. the Devil didn’t do it, Jodie did.
@malabuha
6 ай бұрын
The boy was afraid to disclose anything to the neighbor, he was well aware Jody and his mom were doing bad things to him and that they will be in trouble if they get exposed, but he knew he would be in even greater trouble if they found out he told on them. He thought he was gonna go back to the house of horror, that's why he kept saying everything was fine
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Such a scary predicament that was designed to keep him stuck in that system
@renpilak6048
6 ай бұрын
Does anybody know if Ruby and Jodi have been excommunicated, yet?
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
This I have no clue of. Adam steed suggested in his statement that the LDS church is letting Jodi be the fall guy in this situation so it doesn't extend to them. How true that is, no clue
@rcarson671
6 ай бұрын
Then why say it!
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
@@rcarson671 because someone closer to the situation stated it, and I thought it might provide a reference that would lead them to an answer...
@joleenspelbrink3265
6 ай бұрын
Jodi gives me a lot of Lori Vallow vibes!!
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
I have heard that from other commenters too!
@BergenholtzChannel
5 ай бұрын
Do you believe that there is ANY chance that they have changed as much as they claim to at their sentencing??
@Therapy2Day
5 ай бұрын
Unlikely, but I do hold out the hope for positive change
@judev3197
5 ай бұрын
Zero chance
@IMjustAGirlInTheWorld1983
6 ай бұрын
Haha i love the thumbnail. Sums up that demon. Nose in the air with the other jody waiting in there ride to jail😂
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Someone else had said that too!
@clairesmith8120
6 ай бұрын
Thank you for your video, I've been watching and reading up on everything I can as these two women are cruel beyond belief 😱😡 They deserve to be in jail. You are very polite and I normally would use the word ladies as well, but these two are far from what a lady is 😲😢😢
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
Hah I guess I try to be respectful regardless
@TrueCrimeDoula
6 ай бұрын
I love how you never forget to call Jesse Hildebrandt "they." So many KZitemrs cannot do that, I guess because "pronouns" are such a controversial topic these days.
@irismckay6472
6 ай бұрын
Yes, thank you for respecting Jesse's pronouns. It's disgusting how many adults are too immature to learn how this works, instead, showing disrespect, and complaining about how confusing it is. Only if you're cognitively impaired.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
To be fair, I had my own share of comments when I didn't know that Jessi used they/them pronouns the first time I covered a story related to them. Made it a point since then
@TrueCrimeDoula
6 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day Oh I remember that now! The guy from Mormon Stories really struggles with it, I noticed 😄. But he means well. OLD PEOPLE 😄 can't teach 'em new tricks.
@Therapy2Day
6 ай бұрын
@@TrueCrimeDoula careful! I'm getting close to being old people myself 😬
@TrueCrimeDoula
6 ай бұрын
@@Therapy2Day 😄 I'm already old, so I am saying that sarcastically. And no, you have a total baby face! I remember Nixon being president, okay?
@PetsitterTails
6 ай бұрын
That was not the beginning of the conversation. If you’re going to analyze these conversations, you should obtain the full phone calls, not rely on snippets from the news.
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