It is not even rugby anymore, it is now all about the referee and his interpretations.
@texspringfield9049
3 ай бұрын
..obviously, the world of international rugby, now, is 'ruled' by inconsistent interpretation of refereeing uncertainty and unstable assistance from the sidelines ..and above all, the occasional blind-eye by t.m.o. ..only to make commercial bureaucrats right of way possible.
@Rich-qb9ui
3 ай бұрын
Stopped watching rugby about 5 years ago for the same reason mentioned. So stop start and too much analysis and replay... if I want American Football I watch American Football
@johnhaywood8817
3 ай бұрын
I stopped watching about 10 years ago, I could see where it was heading and its even worse than I could ever imagine. Referee's have become scared to make decisive calls knowing that tmo is watching above them
@stephenstrydom1
3 ай бұрын
I agree but would add it is now all about the various referee's and their interpretations which I turning the game into a tedious cycle of reviews and ridiculous decisions.
@terryharrison5185
3 ай бұрын
I find myself switching off mid match regularly...
@justina7041
3 ай бұрын
When you micro analyse everything with the benefit of replay, obviously you can find small things. The TMO is too involved, and we want consistency, but we don't expect the refs to be perfect, because it's impossible. We want rugby to be played, and FOUL play to be punished, not hard rugby play
@Trajan2401
3 ай бұрын
That forward pass try didn't need micro analysis it was so obvious.
@ridaa6789
3 ай бұрын
The scrums didn't need microanalysis the ref was guessing
@MrAhuapai
3 ай бұрын
what we dont need is a replay to clearly show an infringement and nothing comes of it
@howdiynot
3 ай бұрын
Agree to disagree. When it is your proffesion, and you are the best in the world at it, the standard should be to the highest level. (Which it is with the players) The laws and referees are too inconsistant in my opinion to be classed as the best in the world
@clintongosling5793
3 ай бұрын
This is how you spread propaganda and make a entertainment event political. Everybody makes mistakes. You made this video to turn public's opinion against officials which is a mistake.
@Matthew-ud8lh
3 ай бұрын
As a south african, I'm glad we won BUT this is terrible refereeing I still believe south africa would have won, but the point is that game was unfair
@louistheron5153
3 ай бұрын
You have all these rules and changes to the rules being made..... Yet the ref and tmo can't even pick up a forward pass
@johannengelbrecht4664
3 ай бұрын
We are losing the real game of rugby. To much ref, way to much TMO involvement, no more flow in the game. Bring back the old school rugby. Most of the red and yellow cards are not on purpose.
@brianclancy8548
2 ай бұрын
'Too much' not 'to much'!!
@jgo1731
3 ай бұрын
I grew up on Union in RSA but watching pretty much only NRL besides international games. Union laws and interpretation grate my balls no end.
@sinclairmarcus
3 ай бұрын
Great upload. The rules need to be simplified how can the refs and touch judges implement 300 pages of rules in real time. It is destroying rugby from club to international rugby. The IRB need to wake up before it is to late
@martynslinn6607
3 ай бұрын
I was at the game with three of my family, we were in an area with mainly Saffas, fewer English and some Welsh fans. Just for reference we all had a good day, loved the Rugby and respect to Wales for never giving up the fight. General consensus from talking and listening to those around us - yellow for the high foot was harsh but the contact they looked at in the second half - head contact from the Boks captain lenient and a surprised penalty only decision. No-one seemed to query the validity of the try but i think we have given up on making any sense of this simple but fundamental part of the game, backwards/flat/forwards has become a lottery, the direction of the hands dynamic is ridiculous. I think your analysis is broad enough to support the points you raise but just for information the event was well worth the money spent, my first time in a Saffa crowd - you love your rugby, will happily pay to watch your game again.
@Ollies2CentsWardill
3 ай бұрын
The direction of the hands aspect is the only way of making a sensible decision. If it wasn't considered, the passer would have to do an instantaneous calculation of the forward component of his velocity, the distance to the receiver, the speed at which he is going to pass the ball and the angle relative to the touchline in order to pass the ball such that it arrives at the receiver level or behindthe passing position.
@martynslinn6607
3 ай бұрын
@@Ollies2CentsWardill why do we have this discussion in Union, followed League for about 25 years and this is not a problem, back is back, flat is flat and a ball going forward is forward. The first three things you coach a child to do is run straight, stay behind the ball carrier and if you have the ball pass backwards. Takes years for these things to stick but they are the essential building blocks before you ever get to tackling etc. We expect kids to master what adult players seemingly cannot?
@owensteam
3 ай бұрын
The boot out is a straight red for me it’s unnecessary and horrifically dangerous
@danielbezuidenhout3099
3 ай бұрын
When a passer of the ball keeps running it is seen to be a fair pass because the body speed forward has a continuous momentum. However if the passer is stopped abruptly in a tackel it appears to be forward.
@DyllaVZ
3 ай бұрын
Sadly, i agree with you. Too many rules complicating the game. No clear call for intentional vs unintentional.
@CalSota
3 ай бұрын
Been watching Rugby since the 80’s, so many law changes have not improved the game, but made it worse, attendance is down. Look at Soccer, very few changes to that game in comparison. I’m for player safety, first place to start is cut down on the amount of substitutions.
@stefangrossman382
3 ай бұрын
I love your videos and analysis. The TMO's have been given far too much power, and it appears that *no* referee can apply the scrum laws consistently. However, I disagree with your stance on the "boot to the face" incidents. If the tackler isn't ducking down (and in this instance the Wales player wasn't), the onus of safety is on the player jumping up. Same thing we saw in the World Cup.
@hsmedsvik
3 ай бұрын
It would be great if the TMO only got involved when the incident is so clear that onfield decision needs to be overruled without discussion. I think this would make the TMO interfere a lot less because in the end it is fully his responsibility and decision. It would save time and it would increase credibility because we would avoid hearing discussions where part of the ref team clearly disagrees which makes it even more frustrating.
@MoZaHo
3 ай бұрын
South African here - HORRIBLE ref. The game was so hard to watch. Wistle after wistle - and the inconsistancy in decisions made this a really difficult game to watch. The ref made sure everyone knew he was in charge. He was the boss there.
@stephenstrydom1
3 ай бұрын
Good to see your videos again! I think the ever-increasing involvement of the TMOs in games is destroying rugby.
@EliJon378
3 ай бұрын
Great analysis. Rugby laws have definitely become far too complicated. Any excuse by anybody for these decisions is just plain ridiculous, rugby never had these major problems over a decade ago, it was a sport and the refs knew how to adjudicate the game fairly. Sowly over the last few years, I'd sah since the 2011 World Cup, World rugby has become pathetic in it's overly pedantic laws in the sport. We still see players concussion, we still see blood often, which is part of the sport. Imagine boxing being told they can no longer cause blood in the sport?!? Would be ridiculous. If there's blood and contact in any sport it's beyond ridiculous to try and prohibit "danger". Most players are not on the rugby field to intentionally do harm to other players, they are there to play rugby. There needs to be less penalties for unintentional actions in rugby, which is the case with 90% of penalties in the modern game. Great example is players mistakenly stepping offside and then realizing and back tracking without influencing the run of play but still being penalized for offside. It's just idiotic! These kinds of penalties are awarded too often in rugby for so many unintentional action and which actually do not hinder the run of play. World Rugby needs a total overall on the laws.
@brandonnewman9327
3 ай бұрын
I like this! Great analysis. Was watching the game and the calls were so bad towards both teams, ruined the game. I'm basically watching the ref most of the time.
@danielroberts3068
3 ай бұрын
that first scrum you showed, even the Wales pack was surprised lol . I watched the game and when I saw it real time I was also certain that the ref was guessiing
@TimeTraveler6022
3 ай бұрын
Forward pass for sure. High tackles must take into account people dipping.
@shawnhawes612
3 ай бұрын
Doesnt the rule cstate u not supppse to dip...
@SuperNictastic
3 ай бұрын
what about the slap back in the 22 by SA to deliberately knock the ball out. No way was that an attempted catch.
@mineyyt2635
3 ай бұрын
By the way tackles are from the shoulders down anything above is a yellow or red depending on the mitigation or contact
@T3rr0R_193
3 ай бұрын
Spot on, the referees have so many rules to consider that they forget half of them. The margin for error is so high that it's impossible to be consistent.
@berylbarry9825
3 ай бұрын
The Ref. Made mistakes 😢😢😢
@brianclancy8548
2 ай бұрын
The game of Rugby Union is nothing more than a game of big hits. It's terrible to watch as it's become more like American Football without the helmets. It's no wonder that so many ex-players who've played at club and international level are suffering with brain damage. Rugby Union has a duty of care for their players which they don't seem to want to know about. Referees and officials are always going to be under scrutiny no matter what happens in matches. It's how the game is being played that really needs more scrutiny because the longer the game exists as it's being played at the moment then sadly it will suffer in numbers taking part in it.
@ruanvors
3 ай бұрын
Can you please tell me why matches are being won or lost because of the quality of match officials, and nothing is happening to them? Appsolutaly no consequences for their actions. Please analyse the last 2 Bulls URC matches.
@chrisoconnor5880
3 ай бұрын
Where was the TMO, lines man, and referee on that first forward pass
@xcskidog6937
2 ай бұрын
On forwrd passes, why isn't a line superimposed on the screen like football offside ? And when will they stop American football style blocking , by a runner pretending to overrun receipt of a possible pass ? Every team does it on almost every play
@antondupreez8205
3 ай бұрын
It should be like cricket. TMO involvement should only be at the request of one of the captains. Only two "lost" allowed for each team
@ashg9023
2 ай бұрын
That forward pass was exactly the same pass that got the all blacks a try in the WC final.
@HenryKing679
3 ай бұрын
Another Ref and TMO man of the match perfomance😂😂😂Rugby will be dead and gone in the next century as World Rugby is starting to kill the game with all there made up laws..This used to be a gladiators sport but now its a mix of circus and touch.Soon no one will be intrested to watch these match anymore.Rugby League will be taking over from Rugby soon
@earthscannz5563
3 ай бұрын
consistency is all we can ask for - the game has been gutted
@Eatitbiach
3 ай бұрын
Definite forward pass. Tom Brady would have been proud of that. Yellow card was definitely warranted. Unnatural to kick out like that, sure knee up for protection, but you instinctually bring your foot down to land not kick out. Maybe even a red.
@chrisfield3161
3 ай бұрын
The final pass was a mile offside. I thought the one before it was pretty dodgy too. Originally I thought that was the one you were talking about.
@superjaseZA
3 ай бұрын
the kriel pass was probably forward. the faf pass wasn't. he was ahead of the ball when it got caught.
@MrAvw777
3 ай бұрын
I understand player safety but really Rugby is becoming to soft, Rugby is a contact sport so in contact sport accidents will happen, yes some players will want to play dirty, if you have clear evidence of that then stop the game and send that player off. To many accidents are being labeled as foul play when it is not. Players should stop the upright tackle you have to bend same goes for players attacking which is dipping into defenders causing it to look like a foul tackle when they are correct.
@pmbpmb5416
3 ай бұрын
That leg up did look as if there an additional movement for purpose .
@WunHungLo99
3 ай бұрын
Sorry, with the 15 and high kick, he's in control of where his foot is (no one knocked it there for instance) so regardless if its accidental, he has to be aware of other players and there's no reason for his foot to be that high/in that position.
@kevintyrrell9559
3 ай бұрын
In relation to scrums there is so much happening in there that the referee is guessing most of the time. If you play for penalties at scrum time you are at the mercy of the referee and his understanding of what's going on and who is illegal. If you dont want to chance a penalty against you get the ball in and out and to the backs...and use the scrum to get your backs into space...which is its actual purpose. Otherwise...no real sympathy.
@nazeemsultan7325
3 ай бұрын
My big question is what is going on at scrum? Every ref is different with the dominance. Yesterday was just another example.
@kubinka879
3 ай бұрын
The IRU are running scared of the head injury saga. TMO’s now run the game!
@alunrees6403
3 ай бұрын
Agrreeeddd The Laws are too Complicated ....Game Laws need to be simplified ...Too Much is left to Interpretaion by the referee....making for the possibillity of making a wrong desicion...
@paulcadden4967
3 ай бұрын
It's a problem alright, 2 teams that always get that 'little bit extra help' on the field at the same time, it'll never work 😅
@terrymoore3024
3 ай бұрын
I was an avid all black supporter but after the World Cup final sending off and decisions like these I no longer barrack for rugby union I’m an NRL supporter now
@plasma2806
3 ай бұрын
Rugby kan in sy moer in vlieg. If Divan Serfontein does not even watch rugby anymore, then you know there is something wrong!
@mariusv2900
3 ай бұрын
Rugby becoming a boring game without the all the bull. The pass can only be judge forward if it is clear from the hands movement because of the momentum. But rugby is becoming a womens only game with all this bull
@Emersonion
3 ай бұрын
I find myself watching the officials more than the game. 😢
@StoepZulu
3 ай бұрын
Bro all we want is some flowing rugby and call out real mistakes not micromanage
@woelag027
3 ай бұрын
That pass appeared to be forward because of the angle viewed at a d the fact that the player that past the ball fell had the player that passed the ball kept on moving forward it would not appear as a forward pass .Secondly it was viewed by the tmo from a different angle and deemed a fair pass
@alanpartington2540
3 ай бұрын
It was forward, and no amount of sophistry will change that. Thr Vision Express next time
@SpiderLoubser
3 ай бұрын
When a game has 4 refs, (game ref, 2x line refs, 0ne tmo team ) and still can't get the rules right then maybe the rules are wrong.
@luqmaanhendricks
3 ай бұрын
Probably the first time it happened with the north it's kinda normal when u a SA or NZ fan to watch the refs make controversial decisions against your team
@jameswyatt4443
3 ай бұрын
We need some serious rule changes regarding head contact. For me I have a real problem with the perspective they start with. It should start with nothing, and only move up, it feels like they start with a card and only mitigation brings it down. Should ask is there a high degree of force, if no, nothing or penalty only. If yes, yellow card threshold is met, then look for mitigation, if the defender has already committed to the tackle before there is a change in height or change in direction, or if it is indirect head contact, or if attacking player leads with his head, essentially if it is a rugby collision, then there is mitigation and down to a penalty. Only in extreme cases where it’s a high degree of force, no mitigation whatsoever and it’s reckless should it ever be a red.
@plc2866
3 ай бұрын
Still waiting for the WC final breakdown. Come on be brave !
@gustavlokotsch3298
3 ай бұрын
In old days there were bad calls too maybe less frequency but it happened, less frequency because there was less rugby being played? So be sport best just to let it be..
@brianlawrence9732
3 ай бұрын
This is a prime example of why I don't watch rugby anymore, RUGBY LEAGUE is the game for me now 🇳🇿👍
@MichaelPersson-d5h
3 ай бұрын
The angle of the camera is very influential. We need to look from above.
@LuanDeJager
3 ай бұрын
100% forward pass I screamed it on the day (and I support SA) TMO was overused in this game but there it should of intervened😊
@mrpooltable9374
3 ай бұрын
Everyone's always got an opinion...
@brianhartley4160
3 ай бұрын
Soon rugby will become a non contact sport.It's becoming a sick joke.
@Ollies2CentsWardill
3 ай бұрын
It's as physical as ever, if not more so. Modern players are huge, extraordinarily fit and collisions are spectacular. What would be the advantage of allowing them to bash each others heads and twist knees?
@robertjan002
3 ай бұрын
They’ve chosen to police very grey lines I guess
@langi4klelu
3 ай бұрын
Forward pass from Jesse Kriel to Mapipi Try..
@mrbeeoutdoors3213
2 ай бұрын
Quite honestly don't know what you guys are overly expecting. There were some had calls (forward pass etc) but the reality is, this is 30 men on the pitch, a ball, fast moving, collisions etcetera, things *WILL* get missed, just as they get missed at grassroots level. 100% perfection of refereeing will never occur, nor do we want it to occur, stoppages would be ridiculous.
@graemeduane5760
3 ай бұрын
The reffing in that game was an all time low.
@shaun30-3-mg9zs
3 ай бұрын
I'm not say we could have won the game but the TMO, the ref and world rugby need to sort they act out this game to me felt one sided, just my thoughts
@siphosenkosithabani8861
3 ай бұрын
Who made this video ?
@danclaynz
3 ай бұрын
The rules and refs are killing the game
@5BoB
3 ай бұрын
I dont see this ref making a very long career out of this if this is how he refs... Dont think the result would have been much different, but from a rules and reffing perspective, it was so bad
@PatDee-gc9nq
3 ай бұрын
Hi, rugby-lover I just want to correct myself. You cannot punish a team 3 times for one offence (it's a yellow card, 10 minutes sinbin and a penalty.) It's a disgrace.
@Birdman953
3 ай бұрын
This ref should not even ref an under 12 B team match!
@pietervanderwalt6771
3 ай бұрын
To all the critics please sign up and become a referee where you dont have ghe advantage of freeze frames
@rucoebersohn7420
3 ай бұрын
Let the IRB screw up rugby, just creating an opportunity to start a breakaway rugby sport that will allow rugby incidents, embrace scrums and bring back that what makes us love rugby: physicality. Let's get a LIV rugby going. Later, LIV rugby can take over the IRB, merge and fire all the idiots that have brought the game to this.
@JohnBradfield
3 ай бұрын
This is on the Ref, looked incompetent. Too much TMO involvement. Otherwise a great game.
@kenwoodburn7438
3 ай бұрын
It's become a circus.
@romario2166
3 ай бұрын
Yeah a good game was spoilt by the referee and the TMO. The AR's seemed to have all the common sense. The ref and the TMO on the day should be suspended and retrained. There were bad calls for both sides.
@JohannesMahlangu-p7d
3 ай бұрын
RUGBY ITS ALL ABOUT TMO THIS DAYS
@honahwikeepa2115
3 ай бұрын
See who adjusts quick to the new world first.
@we_want_chilli_willy
3 ай бұрын
Rugby sucks now and I'm from New Zealand, it's all we used to care about. The refs have ruined the game. Cost us the RWC final, that and Richie Moanga's piss poor accuracy.
@BenHawkins-yy2pv
3 ай бұрын
Im a kiwi stop watching rugby years ago because of all the stupid rule changes and refs.AFL aussie rules is the best football game in the world imo learn the rules and start watching.
@SkiwithMike
3 ай бұрын
Kriel - forward pass. Incorrect call Faf - forward pass. Correct call Fassi - accidental but dangerous. Correct call. Arguably could be RC Fassi - accidental but dangerous. Incorrect call. Should have been YC, arguably RC Screech - legal hit which rose to neck and chin. Correct call. Penalty. Mostert - direct contact with head. Incorrect call. YC Mbonambi - no arms direct contact with head. Incorrect call. YC. Off-field review. RC Nche - direct contact to head. Incorrect call. YC Plumtree - seatbelt tackle. Incorrect call. Penalty. Agreed, ref guessing at scrums but guessing both ways. PSDT hand on the floor at nearly every scrum, never gets picked up. Watkins - rising tackle, head contact. Incorrect call. YC
@truthseeker471
3 ай бұрын
The game of Rugby turning into ballet...
@waynethorpe1341
3 ай бұрын
Wales should have got The Red Card. Need more Consistency
@zido4484
3 ай бұрын
So refs are going to start penalising for every tackle? Then why not play touch rugby 😀 . Then the ladies can join us as well
@Leon71414
3 ай бұрын
The forward pass argument is as old as the game itself, if the runners are both at full speed, the supporting player well behind, any pass irrespective of passing angle will end up being caught in front of point of pass, especially if played 20x in slomo. The problem towards both teams is that the game just doesn't flow because of the referees.
@jljjoubert3611
3 ай бұрын
Goodday reader. That is why I phased rugby out. Example: World cup final, the red card for the All Black captain. An idiotic rule not only ruined the game and the players day,but the frustration towards these rule maker's made the decision for me. All these substitutions, it is a 15 man game if you can't play the whole game stay out. These substitutions discriminate against the smaller unions.Cobus🐳
@anthonyvisagie7106
3 ай бұрын
This referee made this game about him and not the rules and common sense.
@natedogg8775
3 ай бұрын
lol I don’t know if anyone else noticed but at one point during a TMO told them to switch the cameras back to him so he could make the call on camera like it mattered that everyone saw him blow the whistle 😂
@lesocon
3 ай бұрын
He is probably the most officious and least bright top level referee
@earthscannz5563
3 ай бұрын
many do these days
@johnnyeveritt5695
3 ай бұрын
Azza Saffa; THAT forward pass was SO bleeding obvious ! Sadly; the evident quality of Real-Time Reffing ( Both Ref and Assistent-Refs ); is falling below any form of acceptable standard; let alone making necessary on-field decisions which is the basic function of a Referee ! And as for the constant; highly irritating intervention of the TMO dictating actual play ( Not by Ref-referral as was the original intention as I recall ); is reducing this hard; physical; running game we all love to nothing but a nano-second; stop / start / degrees-of / time-wasting farce ! Bill Beaumont and his World Rugby tin-pot wallies are killing rugga as a crowd-favourite sport and spectacle; becoming way too technical as a game ... And they have introduced ( From 1 July ) rules that restrict what is fundamental to game : The scrum ! Apparently; their explanation is to * Speed Up The Game; * an explanation which is in DIRECT and UTTER contradiction to the repeated TMO + Ref reviews that take ages for a decision to be made [ The recent Wales v South Africa game ] ! Enuff of this ridiculous splitting-hairs k@k in a game such as rugby .... PLEASE ! 😡💩🪰🏉🇿🇦
@dlee15081
3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately we are going to be seeing more and more of poor refereeing, rule sticklers and no common sense. IRB is to blame for this. When the focus is more about the 31st man on the field and his decision then Rugby is lost.
@ashleysoudah
3 ай бұрын
how that forward pass wasn't given is beyond me 🤷♂️
@wernerkruger2282
3 ай бұрын
Im a South African, and I in real time was like, forward pass. Then when they said they were gonna TMO review, I was like ok try will be disallowed because of that, actually stunned me as well that is wasn't.
@1unsung971
3 ай бұрын
That's because you are human, just like the match officials
@brawlingmac4682
3 ай бұрын
There is such a thing as momentum if player hands pass back and ball floats forward in most cases refs allow it.
@thor_6886
3 ай бұрын
@@brawlingmac4682 But nobody but a biased Bok fan could even try to claim the Bok passed it backwards out of the hands. It was a carbon copy of the French forward pass in the RWC quarter final in 2007. Almost in exactly the same part of the field, in the same kind of phase.
@englishmenintown8622
2 ай бұрын
Myself and mates where watching the game together and not ONE of us cheered the try because we new it was a mile forward. We played American Football for that try.
@rustyone7299
3 ай бұрын
The TMO got involved in things he did not need to and then missed an obvious forward pass
@THEMRblackboy7thst
3 ай бұрын
im a huge SA fan but i have to say it as it is, that 3rd try was from a forward pass, like by a mile. I called it at the exact moment.
@stefangrossman382
3 ай бұрын
Yes, I was watching the replay and was stunned it wasn't called!
@THEMRblackboy7thst
3 ай бұрын
@@stefangrossman382 yeah absurd
@reniervanwyk5473
3 ай бұрын
Big Springbok Fan here. That was a crystal clear forward pass and I also shouted at the ref like an idiot cause he missed it😅.
@maneli3769
3 ай бұрын
Same here, I don't get it either. It's clear as day. Coming from a South African.
@stefanjones202
3 ай бұрын
I'm a Welshman living in Australia so stayed up late to watch this. The game went on forever. 14 was spent with the clock off reviewing things. It's killing the game and it's no wonder why league is King here. You just get more bang for your buck.😢😢
@natedogg8775
3 ай бұрын
I’m in Aus to and League is in a bad state to but it’s fan base is still going strong but it’s not good to watch at all in my opinion
@Ollies2CentsWardill
3 ай бұрын
What's wrong with a longer game? Some people enjoy the added tension of the TMO decisions. If you are invested in a match you get 100 minutes of naiI-biting tension as opposed to 80. I can 100 percent guarantee that without all of the backup the ref has the fans would be incensed, incensed I tell you, about how backward and archaic the officiating was. The game would be called unprofessional and everyone would be asking why it was living in the dark ages. The ref in the Bulls final was slaughtered for not making decisions, and this week the officials were slaughtered for making decisions. These guys don't go to a match trying to do a bad job.
@natedogg8775
3 ай бұрын
@@Ollies2CentsWardill kills the flow of a game and can take momentum away from teams that might be trying to put the game out of reach or make a comeback or many situations the whole game taking longer makes no difference to me I’d happily watch a good game of rugby for 3hrs
@ridaa6789
3 ай бұрын
The referee was really confident in his interpretation at scrum time when he clearly had no clue , and I think that false confidence was also an issue in other areas of the game. The TMO was arguably even worse
@clydehaskell2975
3 ай бұрын
IMO, World Rugby are destroying the game. When the game needs 6 people ( 1 ref, 2 touch judges and 3 in the "bunker") to police the game, anyone with a brain in their head could figure out that the game is too complicated.
@1unsung971
3 ай бұрын
"Anyone with a brain in their head." do you know "anyone without a brain in their head?" Everyone's an expert, or so they think.
@clydehaskell2975
3 ай бұрын
@@1unsung971 "Everyone's an expert, or so they think". Doesn't that include you?
@shintenkai1648
3 ай бұрын
All these rules are for the World Rugby company to exploit and control games from their office seat, 1000s of miles away from where the game is actually being played
@JimmieCooper-le6vj
3 ай бұрын
Geez,how on earth was that not a forward pass from Kriel to Mapimpi !!! And Faf de Klerks pass was forward as well !! The tmo.was really pathetic,and this ref was not far behind him.
@PhansiKhongoloza
3 ай бұрын
Because Mapimpi was behind Kriel at the point Kriel passed. Come on man....pretend it was an All Black pass! I bet you would not care one bit then.
@JimmieCooper-le6vj
3 ай бұрын
@@PhansiKhongoloza What are you talking about ? When Mapimpi received the pass he was ahead of Kriel.Time to visit specsavers wena !! Yes ,the Boks would still have won,but the officials (ref and tmo ) were very poor in this game.
@PhansiKhongoloza
3 ай бұрын
@@JimmieCooper-le6vj Suka wena! It's not the travel of the ball, but the position of the receiver at the moment the pass was made.
@wbm6096
3 ай бұрын
@@PhansiKhongoloza 😅🤡
@JimmieCooper-le6vj
3 ай бұрын
@@PhansiKhongoloza Stick with soccer wena !! He received the ball at least 1 meter in front .Get lost !!
@anelemsimang5692
3 ай бұрын
The scrum calls were appalling, I couldn't believe it when I watched, the rest of the calls he made, I was already defeated, I had stopped complaining at that point and accepted this is how the rest of the game is going to be
@kevintyrrell9559
3 ай бұрын
In relation to scrums there is so much happening in there that the referee is guessing most of the time. If you play for penalties at scrum time you are at the mercy of the referee and his understanding of what's going on and who is illegal and it can go against you. If you dont want to chance a penalty against you get the ball in and out and to the backs...and use the scrum to get your backs into space...which is its actual purpose. Otherwise...no real sympathy.
@Lazarus9703
3 ай бұрын
I couldnt get my head around the SA loosehead stepping out of the scrum though, which the video shows he does a lot. Ref guessed who to penalise, he didnt have a clue, but SA had such a dominant scrum, they should have just backed themselves to man shame wales and push them back straight. The welsh tighthead would have stood up every time. Super easy for the ref to penalise. Seemed like SA were just trying to be a bit too smart about things.
@peteryoungpeteryoung965
3 ай бұрын
There's another side to that coin, when scrums are a huge mismatch like in this game, it makes the game a forgone conclusion and boring to watch.
@Eli_the_01
3 ай бұрын
What going on with the ref and tmo there is a lot of inconsistency in this match is this the ref and tmo's first match
@romaan843
3 ай бұрын
You are absolutely right It's sad to see all the new rules ruin rugby and refs inconsistent referring.I understand the players safety but rugby is a contact sport where decisions are made in split seconds.
@tasanalytics
3 ай бұрын
At some point rugby has to be honest with itself. It will never be 100% safe. Yet World Rugby keeps going down this road where they try to make it injury free, now it's getting to a point where players don't even know how to tackle anymore because one small slip up, and you get red carded. LIke you said, it's a contact sport played by athletes, and decisions are made in split seconds. If only World Rugby actually allowed refs to use common sense, a lot of these issues would be resolved.
@chrislenferna4384
3 ай бұрын
Evan Roos received a shoulder to head charge earlier in the game, wasn’t even looked at
@ElliotCousins
3 ай бұрын
And now it's a "freeze frame" that'll decide if you get carded or not. A game that happens at fast pace is decided by an artificial freeze frame that doesn't provide context
@Revellien
3 ай бұрын
That try scoring pass was so far forward as to have been similar to an American Football Hail Mary play. Then to say no clear and obvious evidence to overturn it is pathetic. Rugby Union has too many crazy laws that no one understands yet now things like this are let go. Add to this the scrum feed and some hard tackles that are called dangerous, it’s getting more like netball.
@ramsfan1st43
3 ай бұрын
Similar to a hail mary? You could have just said it reminds you of an NFL pass, you'd have at least sounded knowledgeable.
@Revellien
3 ай бұрын
@@ramsfan1st43 You can pass behind and level in NFL & so if I had said “like an NFL pass”, some really smug, pompous and self diagnosed “knowledgeable” rugby fan, not you of course, would have informed me of that as well. Good job it’s just an opinion based forum.
@ramsfan1st43
3 ай бұрын
@@Revellien even a screen pass is forward, Dingus. Otherwise it'd be called a toss or a lateral if it's behind or level. Just stick to what you know, or actually watch a game and learn something...
@Revellien
3 ай бұрын
@@ramsfan1st43 I didn’t mean to offend you - thats a bonus -
@Revellien
3 ай бұрын
@@ramsfan1st43 Unfortunately common sense is a flower that doesn’t grow in everyone’s garden
@alanenarne8382
3 ай бұрын
My take: TMO was right regarding the first two passes. The ball left Jessie's hand going backwards, momentum took it forward. Rule says the ball must leave the hand going backwards. Faf's pass was forward out of the hand.
@ggjenks
2 ай бұрын
Both were forward out of the hand
@alanpartington2540
3 ай бұрын
Lovely to see you back as I haven't been seeing any videos from you for a while. The gane of rugby is dead. I DO blame the referees as they seem never to have played the game, they think the crowd has come to watch them, not the players. I also cannot understand why the line out and scrum have been completely destroyed as a means of competing for possession leaving only the breakdown or the endless rubbish kicking in most games as ways of taking the ball off the opposition (see hookers who cannot strike, scrum halves whose willies obviously point at 45 degrees to the straight ahead when erect (can you say that in YT these days?) from the way they put the ball into the scrums). Oh well tiddly winks it is then
@gysgijsbers4202
3 ай бұрын
The head touching is too sensitive of a rule, it should be DANGEROUS, not just touching, no-one will be able to tackle on the chest area, if there is a high chance of heads touching...as for scrums going forward or swinging or head popping up or elbow touching...there is a law to penalise either side. Maybe allow the outside hand to stay on ground to steady the scrum? Scrumhalve touches the ball with any part, the play should be on, as in the 1980's.
@354sd
3 ай бұрын
Bring back rucking, hooking and backward passing . Simples.
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