The audacity of that man to criticized F(x) when they already look beautiful and doesn't need to change their looks.
@crunchnmunchsweettreats
2 ай бұрын
He needed to worry bout his teeth, not them
@dunemae
2 ай бұрын
Please no more functions I just finished a math exam
@allergictohumansnotanimals5671
2 ай бұрын
@@dunemae 😂😭
@ninicast7570
2 ай бұрын
Not to mention he is not aesthetically pleasing.
@joannelumiere9994
2 ай бұрын
saying stuff like that in western media (i.e. US) in this current day and age will get you cancelled 100%. everything that guy said was absolutely disgusting and degrading.
@Jam-cp6qp
8 ай бұрын
I just screamed for her dancing and transition it to Wonyoung. It's like repeating the same scenario again which is crazy
@lemoncha_5442
2 ай бұрын
yup! but i would argue that she has one of the strongest personality in ive. we definitely can see the burden she hold as the 'perfect' idol
@yuzzy4soshi
2 ай бұрын
I feel so bad for wonyoung she was still a minor in that clip
@multifan6679
2 ай бұрын
Didn't she turn 18 in 2022? I am pretty sure the clup is from 2023 (kitsch and I AM promotions based on the hair colours)@@yuzzy4soshi
@crunchnmunchsweettreats
2 ай бұрын
@@yuzzy4soshiGirl bye that was a teenager (18)
@hiyylight
2 ай бұрын
What clip @@yuzzy4soshi
@andrebezaliel7116
2 ай бұрын
I think the agency has a big role in this situation. When idols appear on a variety show, they usually ask the idol to appear according to the image they want. They can even remove things that could damage their idol's image during the editing process.
@vvyenne
2 ай бұрын
yeah, these "images" and "persona" are already curated by their agencies
@berenice3626
2 ай бұрын
yea it's not bc of running man honestly
@finnrogue9435
2 ай бұрын
that doesn't apply to every variety show, some just suck, but yeah, SM did a poor job on that first example with f(x)
@jul2447
2 ай бұрын
yeah and also newbies tend to speak lesser at shows or their company instructs them to
@bapbirb
Ай бұрын
It also has to do with the 'sunbae' 'hubae' culture in Korea which just means lowering yourself infront of veterans and superiors. Like it wouldn't be normal to conversate and talk alot infront of the running man members who are much older and been in the industry longer than the general kpop idols. So unless she's asked or talked to first, it wouldn't be easy to talk. Its not necessarily toxic but its just kind of like that in Asian countries I guess.
@carlitadengari
Жыл бұрын
She just got the best actress award at the LA web series festival for "Summer Strike"
@shesyrablavkdemon7242
9 ай бұрын
Never watched her drama before sumer strike, but seriously she is really good and look so natural in her acting. I didnt expect she is that good. Compared to the actors and idols that i know she could be on the list as one of the best idol-actor
@rosie743
5 ай бұрын
I hadn’t heard of her until I binged that show yesterday. Some Kdrama acting is a bit over exaggerated for me but she brought some realism, she’s very natural. I hope that, if it’s her passion, she goes far.
@chedy_bear
2 ай бұрын
Summer strike is a good series. A must watch indeed ❤
@mimitabiswas4534
Ай бұрын
I first saw her in Awaken and her acting was disappointing
@thalassawrenbenzon964
2 ай бұрын
Fyi seolhyun just recently became a guest at another kr variety show called I Live Alone. It's nice to see her personality in there.
@clashoftash3691
2 ай бұрын
it was such a good episode! i hope to see more of her
@Borasaeg99
2 ай бұрын
I hope she will be casted regularly there, because it shows how she done her day naturally, and it was super fun to watch. Especially the part where she always tried to do new things and where she ate whatever she wanted to eat
@GazeMr
2 ай бұрын
I hope Seolhyun can revive her yt channel too, her vlogs were awesome and she even posted some covers to showcase her idol talents, i miss her videos so much 🥺
@Arxhxz-ro1pc
2 ай бұрын
@@GazeMrI agree! I loved her vlogs 🥺❤️
@tfnvv5469
2 ай бұрын
Where can we watch w Eng subs?
@user-ub3ne3zn6u
2 ай бұрын
No wonder why idols go after acting career. It is probably much more serious, formidable and even respectable job than being an idol, in which you are boxed into one dimensional and shallow image. I mean when IVE appeared on Running man, all they could talk about Wonyoung was only how pretty she is like wtf??? Of course, she is hella gorgeous but imagine being pretty is only thing they could say about you, so sad. Most of the most popular female idols changed their career to acting: most members of SNSD, Suzy, Krystal, Jisoo etc.
@cheesecake7159
2 ай бұрын
Idol are the lowest tier artist in SK, actors/actress are highest tier, solo singer and comedian are mid tier, idol are the lowest. Idols may be popular but only for young people, they can only called popular if old people know them, that's why actors/actress are the highest tier celebrities
@PonnyVicious
2 ай бұрын
It wasn't like that for UEE
@ElectraHeartisdead
2 ай бұрын
Jisoo originally auditioned for acting not for idol
@isabear478
2 ай бұрын
But at the cost of ruining tv shows because of their bad acting
@O-nd4xc
Ай бұрын
Idols aren’t very respected because they’re not seen as artists but more like pretty performers. Many of their fans are school kids so I think that also makes the public discount them a little. I think they are rising in public image now because of the kpop craze overseas I feel like many are starting to realize how impactful kpop is. This is just my observation tho soo don’t take it as fact
@sertacsilbastan
4 ай бұрын
The industry is tough, I applaud every "idol" for not going insane in the life they're leading.
@edpone8600
Сағат бұрын
Yes, for sure. The idols that survive and thrive are not only very talented, but also strong willed.
@GazeMr
2 ай бұрын
This is another reason why Queendom helped AOA so much, Seolhyun was the member extremely famous only for her looks, but the entire group suffered from this, people labeled them as a visual group with lack of talent, and they wanted to show that yes, we are pretty we are sexy but we are also TALENTED, i will never forget when after their performance of Egotistic the members said that for the first time most of the comments were positive, and they were talking about their voices, the dance, the performance itself, and not just their visuals. Ugh I'm still so frustrated that just when AOA was experiencing a new beginning, a jealous former member ruined everything...
@twinklestar2530
Ай бұрын
Yeah.. still bitter with mina.. when the bullying case arise, i just wait & see cause i remember what happened to t-ara.. and boom 💥 , turn out they have the same case as t-ara
@GazeMr
Ай бұрын
@@twinklestar2530 and even worse because at least T-ara were able to continue their career as a group for several more years, but AOA basically ended the moment the accusations came out 😔
@twinklestar2530
Ай бұрын
@@GazeMr yup.. cause mina threatened them with suicide.. and during that time, kpop fans are still mourning with johyun, sulli & hara death.. As for t-ara, they did release the track.. sugar free is well known but still they gone hiatus.. and that one member-hwanyoung(don't know how to spell her name) are thriving as an actress..luckily, after the staff revealed the truth, she slow down her career.. but i read somewhere that she gonna comeback with new name
@ifallapart2000
Ай бұрын
@@twinklestar2530Jonghyun*
@heyyou9267
Ай бұрын
Oof I'm still not over what happened to AOA after queendom. Us fans were bloody roobed.
@TM-wp8xy
2 ай бұрын
funny how the algorithm just made all of us meet at this 10 month old video right now huh?
@misskahvereng
Ай бұрын
There is a lot of seolhyun content on my feed right now, there was none yesterday. I just watched 1 queendom video.
@PeyloBeauty
2 ай бұрын
This makes so much sense. She was so enthusiastic during running man and in I live alone she was soooo ambitious too. She shows it there finally.
@Ruenne
2 ай бұрын
Wonyoung is facing this kind of pressure but even more. She even has an aesthetic named after her - 'Wonyoungism'. It's crazy. She's no longer a person, she's just the beauty and lifestyle she represents to the public. I hope she can be free soon but she's so so young so it'll be a while before she can at least age out.
@meoviona
2 ай бұрын
The lifestyle her fans try to present is dangerous, too. I’m sure Wonyoung never wanted to have a lifestyle named after her that encourages extreme diets and unhealthy habits.
@riddhimachaudhary616
2 ай бұрын
yeah now it feels cringy to a point she just winks at every camera and doesn't give a natural response like shouting or you know being excited which is bad and yeah it is true they are just visuals and due to this they can't have a normal image they have a doll image "perfect" like in disney movies perfect prince and "perfect princess" very beautiful tall can sing can dance and is innocent
@genielafrance
2 ай бұрын
it's crazy how a capitalist society (especially a strong one as SK) will try to turn EVERY SINGLE THING into a product and sell it. Rencently a "fan" even sold some strands of WY's hair on a website. This is the hell of world we live in
@chururira6510
2 ай бұрын
real. i love wony but you can see how unnatural she acts in front of the camera compared to her izone days. most ppl say its bc she matured but the difference between her behavior during panorama era and during eleven era is way too big for such a small amount of time in between. it makes me sad because shes so much more than just a pretty face, but she rarely shows her playful side
@riddhimachaudhary616
Ай бұрын
@@chururira6510 yeah absoulutely right even i was shocked to see her pics of izone and how she acted in that group she looks like a complete different person
@belamitankin1671
2 ай бұрын
Seolhyun's case kinda reminds me of Bae Suzy & Son Naeun, who evidently are very beautiful but they rarely project any character...it really depends on the idol and the company...they have to go hand in hand and trust each other...for example Yoona of girls generation can be loud and silly which people still love her for it, or Sandara park (2ne1) who is the visual of the group, but her quirky playful personality works with the crazy fashion looks/hair that was given by their company...i also feel that having a variety skill isnt really easy to have...those who have it and are beautiful serves extra points but usually would sacrifice the visual nature of them...this for example is Park Gyuri from Kara, she is stunning and beatiful but never was marketed as a visual, in fact she was popular for her variety skills...she would self compliment her beauty as if she was a majestic goddess...and people would be amused by her wit and although mostly shocked...because back then in korean media, a beautiful person was never supposed to be that confident...gyuri's humor was ahead of her time
@k.c5052
2 ай бұрын
I remember seeing Naeun on a camping show after she left Apink’s company, and she just felt a little more goofy than I previously saw her. Although her screen time was still minimal and I don’t necessarily think she cares too much about being the funny outspoken person on a variety show, it was interesting/refreshing to see her interact like that outside of a setting where she had to keep up the image of the quiet visual idol of a group.
@weightycarlos
2 ай бұрын
@@k.c5052 She was actually still with Apink at that point. Also, during their earlier years, she was actually goofy. Something just shifted during 2018.
@zipzapkpop
2 ай бұрын
Suzy was goofy pre-2012. Then when she blew up, she became a lot quieter. It didn't help that she was barely with her members and their relationship became distant. I used to fight tooth and nail for her from all the nasty comments. The funny thing is she was a very talented singer and dancer (she also draws!), but somehow still criticized as "only a visual". It was the same with Yoona. And yes to Gyuri! With her blunt personality she was never considered as a "standard" of beauty, it's insane. She was hilarious and I love her
@chankaist2962
10 ай бұрын
Yeah! I remember so many ‘beauties’ and ‘visuals’ back in the day. I remember when also male idol Kim Jaejoong said ‘Because I was the visual of my group, people constantly told me to be quiet on variety shows to give my other members more chances to shine.’ Something around those lines…..their logics was that, the most beautiful naturally takes all the attention and screen time while others only could stand a chance for attention when they were extra funny or such stuff. Basically manipulating the visuals that ‘if you talk much, you are selfish to not give your co workers a chance to shine, while you already got the face to attract attention’. It’s sad to see, and these people deserve to be loved for other things than just their appearance and to be allowed to show their personalities. I can’t imagine basically selling yourself as a beauty icon, everyone admiring you just for your beauty, and with 25 they will make it clear you are too old to hear such pretty compliments? I imagine it to be terrifying and feeling like you lost your entire worth in the industry because people don’t see you for anything else, so what could you possibly suddenly show your audience and convince them there is suddenly more to you than what appeared to be ‘a lil shy beauty’ that they thought you were for years just cuz you were silenced.
@acejunmyeon9379
2 ай бұрын
I slightly agree with the company here , visuals are the ones with the most fans and most of the times fans just fixate on the visual member ignoring others.. Even if the visual member has a single unappealing angle , expression or word , fans start bullying that visual member ...
@gemmafeltovich6130
2 ай бұрын
mingyu from seventeen has expressed something very similar, interesting
@hallooos7585
2 ай бұрын
Girl group visual’s are expected to be quiet, elegant/cute, and kind while Boy group visual is also expected to be quiet, kind, but cool/cute/mysterious but these standards are strict on girl visual
@samanthakim5035
2 ай бұрын
I’m so glad that Tzuyu has now more freedom in terms of personality.
@KY-jd1nl
2 ай бұрын
@@acejunmyeon9379 yeah it's unfair for different people either way. a long time ago I was into a jpop idol group called Keyakizaka46 - and as some might know, the # of members in some jpop groups can even dwarf groups like NCT. anyway my fav member was their center - who has been their center for every single comeback (jpop is different than kpop in that the centers are announced formally and they can rotate per comeback - centers also get WAY more screentime and center position time) - and I noticed she barely ever said ANYTHING on variety shows. at first I was disappointed (when I first became a fan) bc she was my fav, but then I realized it would be incredibly unfair if she got equal attention there too. it already came off like X + her backup dancers - variety shows were the one area of mercy for the other members and their chance at exposure.
@Msmithjonesraven
2 ай бұрын
Not only that the idol industry is look oriented and age oriented, the more we see these groups the age bracket is shrinking. Like 4th gen ITZY group members will be seen as old compared to New Jeans members which is actually insane as most itzy members are in their early 20s. The more kpop gain traction the more these groups will shrink age bracket and also part of the reason why no new group is uber big/rich like SNSD,TWICE and BlackPink as they on't have time to even establish themselves and they are replaced by some younger group.
@PeyloBeauty
2 ай бұрын
The asking to dance is crazyyyyyyyyy especially after her fresh huge achievement
@1224thetami
2 ай бұрын
Seolhyun is my favourite Korean "beauty" icon ever since she was active and on top when she was a member of AOA. I think her proportions are so beautiful and she seems so kind too
@Twice_Kimbap
Жыл бұрын
sulli 😭 these people should know that it's upto the idol if they want to lose weight or not, these type of people need to realize that their words can affect people's life
@theiridezxent
2 ай бұрын
Aside from the visual & beauty title, it’s because she also became the senior in the industry that’s why the treatment when she was a rookie/newbie is totally different. This issue is not exclusive for visual idols only but all rookies & idols in general. Korea is sensitive on this topic & heavily rely on seniority and ages as well. They put more respect, attention & effort when you’re either a senior or achieved one of the biggest awards. Regardless, i’m happy that seolhyun have finally break free from this image she has been locked in ever since and is now a successful actress.
@lmo6634
5 ай бұрын
this was genuinely a fantastic video! i'm so happy people that are into korean culture can also have such genuine, honest, intelligent conversations about how much influence the MEDIA has on everything we do...
@eddydelreal4871
Ай бұрын
I love how that guy at the beginning had the audacity to comment on their appearance when he is walking around with those wild looking atrocities he got for teeth
@GrandTerr
8 ай бұрын
I loved aoa back in the day, Seolhyun is incredibly beautiful. It always seemed Hyejeong has more interesting personality, sad we couldn't see Seo's personality in her aoa career. For producers: yes, a person's personality might ruin perception of her physical beauty, but it's not worth the sacrifice on her part and us not experiencing true personality.
@toyland12
2 ай бұрын
I always found Hyejeong every bit as beautiful as Seolhyun. But then AOA had an almost "unfair advantage" as Heechul put it, in the beauty department.
@IVEJAPANSTUDIO
Ай бұрын
@@toyland12wdym? like seolhyun was so beautiful that the others were at a disadvantage?
@tangerinebreath
13 сағат бұрын
Seolhyun to me always gave me the impression that she was really good-natured but very quiet. Hyejeong always made the most insane jokes that had me laughing. Even on Queendom, Seolhyun was quiet. I feel like that's just her personality
@hakdocarmwrestlingmd
11 ай бұрын
Unlike everyone in Korea, I just discovered Seol Hyun 2days ago via Summer strike. I find her present "form" very beautiful. Her monolid eyes are personally captivating. And the way they "did" her chubby face seems natural to the untrained eye. I never thought she was this big of a deal almost a decade ago if not for this video. Very good video and very well made and though of.
@HKim0072
7 ай бұрын
She blew up in 2014-15ish after she lost her baby fat. She was getting a ton of CFs and then...she f'd up by Korean standards. The phone company pose is probably the most well known (jeans / blue top). SK ad: (47 seconds) kzitem.info/news/bejne/uWqBvox_kJygoKA Cloud Beer is probably second: kzitem.info/news/bejne/x42wlqaukYVyjaA Ellese (cute look): kzitem.info/news/bejne/kqSKqIGbhqJzmZw Bonus interview: kzitem.info/news/bejne/lX6AyKCQo4p0iW0 Then... 1- She was photographed leaving a male idol's apartment in the morning, yikes. (2016) 2- She and Jimin bombed Korean history on a TV show (2016) She lost a bit of shine after that commercially. Arguably, she got better looking when she slimmed down even more. She's naturally got a "cute" look. Then, when someone styles her up, she can look extremely good. 2018 fancam: kzitem.info/news/bejne/tXuJmKqXcV-adJg 2019 Burberry event: kzitem.infoyQxtVcQT3-U
@zoech99
3 ай бұрын
She does not have monolids😂 have you ever seen real monolids?
@JohnLee-db9zt
2 ай бұрын
@@zoech99yup the OP has no idea. Seulgi and Dahyun have beautiful monolid eyes.
@Kimnojam
2 ай бұрын
Seolhyun was the hot trend back then. But the video didn't mention the part how Seolhyun really faded away... it was more of the string of controversies her group (AOA) painfully went thru which actually led her to rapidly fade...
@gregorytoma
2 ай бұрын
Yeji has the best @@JohnLee-db9zt
@jamjam7881
Жыл бұрын
I remember how Seolhyun said just recently on a show how that people don't see her as a "go getter" or somethig along the lines of quickly picking up things or how to do things. Itt must be a result of this perception. But people who actually got to ork with her where always quick to point out how hard working, witty and competent she is. It's like they were really shock with how she really is and easy it is to get along with her... You could see it by how the rman members treat her overtime too. It comes off as too much mediaplay to others whenever people she worked with praise her for more than just her appearance TT they would be ll like just what did she even do? stand there smile and be pretty while doing nothing to help TT.
@mcf1urry768
2 ай бұрын
This is amazingly researched, analysed, and presented. It is fascinating that you could recognise patterns of such media portrayal through a vivid example of Seolhyun in Running Man. Thank you for your insightful sharing, this would raise lots of much needed awareness to unrealistic standards set for idols framed as 'beauty icons'.
@MICHELE__JUNG_M
Жыл бұрын
Never seen a video like this on Running Man or Seolhyun so the title caught my attention. Great video
@ETBrooD
2 ай бұрын
I can't fully agree with your conclusion at the end. Ahn Yujin (IVE), while undoubtedly a very attractice idol, is a great example of someone who's not being treated as a mere beauty icon. She's 20 years old now and for the last few years she's been portrayed as one of the funniest idols in the industry. She's been shown as loud, outgoing, competitive, and she kept getting gigs - not in spite of her personality, but because of it.
@calfagra
2 ай бұрын
Agree, a lot of personality could support beauty image. Funny, enthusiastic, ambitious, smart etc. But it's hard to do if they do not genuinely have that trait. Even if they have that trait they need to do it right without showing a glimpse of a bad image so they do not end up killing their attractive image and getting edited out. Someone like Yujin just able to pull it right.
@sorenwang9359
2 ай бұрын
Yujin is undoubtedly a near perfect TV personality. although i haven't personally seen full episodes featuring her, i have seen clips and she seems really energetic and outgoing. But the issue is that that's the image she is given to portray, which happens to align with her already present personality. even though she is really pretty and definitely fits the Korean beauty standard, she doesn't hold that beauty icon title because it was already unanimously agreed by the public that it belonged to Wonyoung, her bandmate. so while she may be allowed to express herself and actually have a personality on screen as a beautiful person, it isn't because the industry realized its faults, but because somebody else is there to play that role. in fact, i'd argue she is another example of the industry pushing characters to be played by idols, rather than allowing them to be their authentic selves.
@Borasaeg99
2 ай бұрын
Because that is the image that her agency wanted her to potray, to be the beauty that contradictionally from her bandmates. Imagine if the image they wanted to potray was the same?
@laweafome528
2 ай бұрын
yeah but yujin is not considered a beaty icon in korea. she is seen as "average idol pretty", wonyoung is the real beauty icon that will go trough all of this again.
@user-rw8fv9rx8x
2 ай бұрын
@@laweafome528Yujin has received the most CFs last year I thought? It seems like she’s the it girl currently, not wonyoung who is a close second.
@tropangmasipag7719
2 ай бұрын
i love Seolhyun. im so sad that i didn't notice this when i first saw her as kpop. i watch all episodes of runningman and i didn't notice this! :( but i am happy for her now that she got away from the curse and laugh normally, and treated as a normal person. GOd bless you Seolhyun
@chuchubag
2 ай бұрын
I think this also has to do with KPop groups having an actual visual position where their only job is to be... yup, attractive. And afaik, Seolhyun was the visual of the group. It's just sad that companies and media force this role onto idols and the portrayal is almost always leaning into maintaining an image. There are groups nowadays where members don't strictly adhere to roles and as such have no visuals and are generally more lenient with maintaining their image. In discussions like these, I will always remember how idols like BtoB have always mentioned that at the beginning of their career, they would always be told off for acting too goofy or how Mijoo said that her old company used to try and suppress her actions (e.g. laughing out loud or over enthusiasm for the camera) to maintain a "cold and mysterious" image during her Lovelyz years.
@jannatulferdiousmithila6331
2 ай бұрын
Been a fan of Seolhyun since 2014(her rising era), and every point you have made about reality of kpop is so true. Nowadays people (kpop fans) do not even recognize Seolhyun who was once the most popular idol of the year of 2015 and once called the CF queen. Sometimes it made me sad but that's the reality, new one will replace old icons but to me SHE WILL ALWAYS BE THE IT GIRL OF KPOP. (one disgusting thing is that knetzens are obsessed with teenage idols, and to them 25 is old :))
@toyland12
2 ай бұрын
The way the playful Yoona was practically held down in her early years was way more extreme. Whenever she tried to do something the MC's and even her members would yell, "Yoona, no!" She was really under lock and key for a long time on variety shows till she was finally able to be more of herself.
@MyAudioChannel
Жыл бұрын
AOA got me into kpop. She's my "bias". I remember, back then, how much I wanted to know about her more. Yes, in this show, most of it may have been censored. I watched a lot of other things also. They were on some kind of water island or something. There were her interactions with babies. Her eating sessions. Her being sick on stage and me wondering why do they not give her a rest. A lot of things happened. I'm glad she's on insta though. I'll always be a fan, I guess. I like her dramas also. I wish her the best.
@jamjam7881
Жыл бұрын
They would probably be shock by how Seolhyun was during brave family days... Candid shows like is still for me the best way to showcase a someone's personality.. coincidentally that show is where i first saw Seolhyun and I became a fan eversince.... It was also one of the factors why she went so popular, I was told.
@hollisrose4076
9 ай бұрын
Didn’t she also get ruined a bit by her dating scandal with Zico which lost all her brand deals too?
@HKim0072
7 ай бұрын
Yeap. And, the Korean history blunder.
@ghostspace13
2 ай бұрын
Didnt her dating Gary to
@roslanroyal8006
Жыл бұрын
Seolhyun popularity was an earthquake that turned Koreans upside down in 2015......i can see Karina soon will follow to be a Nation's sweetheart !!
@jaegerkarina
2 ай бұрын
karina is sp ridiculously popular its actually a shock considering she isnt aggressively promoted like wonyoung
@gregorytoma
2 ай бұрын
Seolhyun's body was unmatched in Korea, and her girl next door pretty face just capped it off perfectly for the perfect package. She's the most head turning idol of any generation. But the thing about her that's different from the majority of famous visual idols, is her visual power came predominantly from her body whereas most idols visual prowess comes from their face. Obviously that's not to say that her face was not also beautiful, it's just that her body was so unreal and different from anyone else in the industry, that the second it even lost a little bit of its youthful perkiness, many fans no longer viewed her as an unmatched beauty anymore. Most idols that are popular visuals like Wonyoung, Suzy, or Karina, are famous for their faces which especially with Asian women can retain their beautiful charms much longer than a body can hold onto its youthful charms. Karina is a different kind of beauty but definitely has the potential to be one of the most famous of all time in Korea, but she probably won't because her personality is a bit quirky for some. I also don't see her putting in the kind of variety/music/award show effort, at least in terms of appearances, that Seolhyun or Suzy always did which led to so many sponsorships, add campaigns, and TV commercials. At one point you could have made a drinking game where you would have to drink every time you would see a commercial with Seolhyun in it, and you would surely be tipsy at the very least by the end of any k-drama episode. Obviously it's different now, but to me at least, she has always been one of the most beautiful people I've ever seen, both at the time of her debut and today.
@ZSleepingDragonZ
2 ай бұрын
Not anymore after the dating scandal, just like Seolhyun's popularity tanked after her dating scandal with Zico.
@jaegerkarina
2 ай бұрын
@@ZSleepingDragonZ i think we'll know properly once they have their comeback
@gregorytoma
Ай бұрын
@@ZSleepingDragonZ dating isn't a scandal especially for a 23-year-old who's image is not bubblegum pop in the first place, and that doesn't rely on heavy Aegyo and fan service to develop her fan base. Most of her fans are fans just because she's extremely hot, and very few of them will stop actually being her fan just because she's dating somebody. They'll be some idiots to think that it makes any difference for them, but most of her fans were never really expecting they were going to be able to date her in the first place. She never did anything to make her fans feel that way either. She's just an incredibly attractive girl who people will not stop watching simply because she's dating somebody. And like I said it fits her image to date somebody anyway as it just adds to her unattainability.
@merochoko
2 ай бұрын
Amazing video :D I think its also relevant to mention how Seolhyun got a lot of hate for supporting feminism.
@nuages8915
Ай бұрын
Everyone gets dragged for supporting feminism in korea especially women, i remember Irene's male fans insulting her and burning her merch as if she committed a horrible act and the post where joy wore a shirt has horrible comments too
@CottidaeSEA
2 ай бұрын
It's one of the reasons why I enjoyed the show where they went to Cambodia. Can't remember the name of it, but Seolhyun actually got to be present as a normal functioning human being, unlike in most other shows where she was just there for the sake of appearance.
@skylord236
7 ай бұрын
I have been her fans for so many years and I am glad that she's currently gets the treatment she deserved, either for her career or life, just for those who don't know her bad past 1) when she got debuted, her company labelled her as a "fat girl" and strictly control her diet and forcefully restricting her from doing things and impacting her daily life 2) During her early participation on variety / reality show, she used to cry a lot off the screen as she had been constantly scolded and annoyed by the seniors inside the show for being "dumb" and passive. 3) She is the only member in AOA that single-handedly generates the best revenues to feed up all the member due to her superb beauty image. Imagine if she is just a regular average idol in AOA, I don't think they could survive that long 4) During the incident of Ji-min bully cases, she got dragged into it and being labelled as the "killer assistant" because of her close relationship with Ji-min In summary, her ex-comp is just terrible. The way they treated their celebrity, the way they control their freedom and openly used them as a tool to promote their image were just in-ethical and in-appropriate. Just like how this video discussing about the curse of her beauty, do u think the RM producer is the one who limiting her exposure to the show ? OR its being controlled and manipulated by her "lousy" company? think again Look at her acting career now with her new comp, just pure talent with great result. I am happy for her and wish her all the best :)
@user-ij5sp4zv5h
2 ай бұрын
no dating ban is not real btw, its illegal, but its basically more like a dont get caught dating thing too often, the company dont want to pay off to keep silent to much money
@nanamifan0220
4 ай бұрын
This is a great video. Oh wow! I’m on an AOA kick right now and this really put things into perspective. She’s such a beauty but she’s got so much more to offer than just her looks. Hope she’s still doing well!!!!
@kaito9907
9 ай бұрын
I'm surprised by the amount of views because this video is so well done
@shellyloves05
2 ай бұрын
Such a great video love it as an avid watcher of running man this brought to light alot of implicit nuances about beauty and media representation that i haven’t explicitly noticed before
@Perff
2 ай бұрын
Really love this video! Kinda made me sad because I realized I really miss Seolhyun on variety shows ): !! And I miss AOA in general ✨😔
@caramelcarton8682
2 ай бұрын
do more of these omg, your channel needs to be more popular
@doomscyte1087
2 ай бұрын
Arms and calves, said by the man that looks like a truck just ran through his face
@Roseli-nj6st
2 ай бұрын
This was an amazing video, and I absolutely loved it, and as a longtime K-pop band who became a Fenna K-pop as a child because of something that me and my older sibling, have a pretty big age gap bonded over this has always been a thing, and it always makes me so sad and like it feels like it happens even nowadays, but people still overlook it. Like male and female idols, who are given the visual place in their group like that’s one of their official titles tend to be the ones that we don’t really hear talk as much and sometimes it’s like understandable because they might just be very introverted. A good example is Leo of VIXX just happened to be pretty introverted, but it was also considered one of the more attractive looking members so I feel like for him. It kind of worked a little bit, but then you’d have like red velvet Irene she didn’t do a whole lot of talking, even though she’s the oldest member in the group, and I think she’s the leader, not a huge fan of theirs, but you rarely would hear her talk a lot for a while if you look at even some of the new groups that SM has like their boy groups they have like two or three well-known visuals in their groups that again they don’t talk a lot and it’s interesting because you’ll see them have these moments when they don’t realize the camera has panned to them at like a ward shows or when they’re recording stuff themselves like a lot of streams and things and you’ll see them being really excited and sitting there and saying things are talking and then as soon as they notice the cameras on them, they school their features they go back to just kind of looking mysterious and pretty they try not to show too much on their faces and to come off looking more calm cool and collected which is interesting. Especially because with how K-pop has changed and involved, especially with the fans, and how big it’s gotten, it kind of feels like a double edge sword that just isn’t worth it for the idol or the companies honestly. Why take an idol who in some cases were known for like survival programs, or they did pre-debut shows on like KZitem, etc. with their companies and people fell in love with them not just because all their pretty but like their personalities getting to see glimpse or a bit of who they are as a human being and then basically, just trying to erase that because it’s like oh but they’re so pretty we don’t want you to pay attention to them having a personality and being a person we want you guys to just pay attention to how aesthetically pleasing they are how attractive they are to look at and that they happen to also be talented. That’s what you should be focusing on and then it kind of creates this weird disconnect and discord with fans who learn about them afterwards, or only know that image of them at fans who knew them beforeand it causes a lot of like issues it feels like
@micmicbungee355
2 ай бұрын
Salute to you! Your video is so well-made, I admire your ability to notice all those small details that often go unnoticed by others.
@deadmanwonderland7455
Жыл бұрын
great video would love to see a follow video about Bae Suzy and the kpop industry since it also relates to this one
@HKim0072
7 ай бұрын
Suzy is in a league of her own. She has navigated the entertainment industry with very little controversy. Dating Lee Min-ho was the only thing that could be controversial and he was a top flight star by then.
@PeyloBeauty
2 ай бұрын
We gotta talk about her image when she was just a minor. The industry has a problem with trying to make kids stars or give them a forced image. In my opinion oncd kids turn into adults and can think about their own decisions much better should then decide what they want to do in life at least.
@mcjames89
2 ай бұрын
To be fair the show should not be solely blamed for this. The agency of this celebrities gives them scripts when they appear on variety shows . This is the reason why some of them dont talk a lot and its not good for the shows host to make them say or do what they are not allowed to by their agency.
@kaziam4318
Ай бұрын
Kim Jongkook said when he used to guest on X-Man (predecessor of Running Man), he was told to stay quiet to portray his image as the big time celebrity singer. Only when he started getting older was when he was allowed to display his true personality in variety shows like Seolhyun
@hannismyyh
2 ай бұрын
I remember how I used to dislike seolhyun just bcause they were bias on her in RM and think that all she had is 'beauty' w no attractive personality and now that I grow up seeing her acting I can't stop admiring her beauty and made me rethink why I was hating on her back then and realise the one to blame is how they represent her back then. I love her real self rn❤
@grassman4939
2 ай бұрын
bro, your video is better than my thesis. Great content!
@ManusiaGoa27
12 күн бұрын
Ive been a running man fans since the early episode. I already watched all the episode of seol hyun appearance in running man but didnt realize all of that until I found your video. It's made me open up a new perspective on how I view the industry. Cant wait to see your upcoming video with more diverse topic
@tsuki3752
Ай бұрын
i got into aoa back in 2016, yuna is my bias. but i loved seolhyun. i love the difference in how she’s portrayed in variety shows like this, and aoa centred variety shows. i think seolhyun shows off her personality in aoa centred shows, as ive always seen her as an ambitious and mischievous sort of person, who loves to pick on the older members alongside chanmi, especially jimin as the two were really close. so it’s interesting to see this video as i have never seen full episodes of running man, where shes portrayed so differently, but i can still see her personality show through. this was an amazing video! t
@ideuniqaxealot
Жыл бұрын
Great video! I was never able to enjoy some of the older content with Seolhyun for the reasons you mention, namely that they are all so focused on only asking / talking about her beauty, when she's always clearly been more than that. She's very talented and has a great personality! I'm glad there's now more room for her to be herself, but it's bittersweet that it's only because she's "old" rather than because the attitude around this is changing. I hope one day the culture around this in Korea, and in most places really, eventually shifts - especially to get rid of the awful parasocial fan behaviour... I wonder how she feels about all this, too. Has she talked much about this before?
@adamm3565
Ай бұрын
To be honest this can be said about cha enwoo aswell
@ang5491
2 ай бұрын
really nice take this, i watched two of the earlier appearances, never even realized these points. really nice directing kind of "politics" to consider as well. really enlightening for laymen.
@vi2984
2 ай бұрын
This is so good this should have millions of views
@kafugetsu6115
Ай бұрын
This is such a great video essay about this topic. I am a big fan of Running Man and I still fail to recognize these instances. Thank you for shedding light to this topic.
@teezianita
4 күн бұрын
this video was amazing to watch, thank you very much for your investigation and work!!!
@andrewking1173
7 ай бұрын
This is such a well made video! Your commentary is great and you highlighted an important topic. I'm glad you featured Seolhyun too, my bias =D
@jakeypuppyyy
Күн бұрын
This is sooooo well made!
@gicchi
2 ай бұрын
This is madly underrateeed, I hope your channel blows up
@rhea4448
2 ай бұрын
insanely well edited and done
@Kjj444
6 ай бұрын
The girl made me love aoa and kpop she so pretty and cute
@pauletterobbie4029
Ай бұрын
This entire video is great, Im too stunned to speak, you said everything and I cant agree anymore, this video is memorable.
@thischinksays
2 ай бұрын
Really great video. I think this is why I love Earth Arcade and HMLYCP so much. There is so much more focus on comedy and the shows aren't afraid to show the idol's personalities.
@haleyh9875
2 ай бұрын
this is such a good video!!!! thanks for sharing
@ni5133
Ай бұрын
And the fact that we all know you should be super focused and professional and ambitious to be able to debut through so many trainees...
@LaurelJhaye
17 күн бұрын
I TOTALLY love this analysis. Omaygad.
@nesst9607
2 ай бұрын
This video is so well done and analysed!!! keep it up please
@tiffanyel
2 ай бұрын
ur conclusions are likely true given the values perpetuated by korean society but imo some of the inferences/links you draw are not all that convincing - it could very well hv been the case that in seolhyun’s first few appearances she was just more reserved and that was her personality back then before gaining more confidence in navigating variety shows at later stages of her career; or as u said she was very determined to win the game so much so that she naturally spoke less to focus on doing the task. Maybe what she said was not conventionally entertaining which would understandably be cut out to make room for other scenes irrespective of what she looked like; or maybe she herself “chose” to spoke less bc she was so used to her “innocent” image/role that her company trained her up to be. there are a lot of possibilities which couldve been addressed before jumping to the conclusion that her lines must have been cut out by RM bc they were so insistant on portraying her to be nothing more than a pretty face. another commenter also pointed out that RM has featured other “beauty icons” who dont necessarily have less “speaking time” on air. overall a clear and well structured video but semi-felt like you gathered evidence to support a conclusion you alr drew urself rather than the other way around, even if the conclusion is ultimately a true one.
@ulamme
Ай бұрын
well said honestly. i know what you mean about finding things to support the conclusion rather than it being the other way round - i feel like a lot of video essays on youtube end up like that.
@Dora-mp1
Ай бұрын
I agree with you and disagree with this video. RM is not a scripted show. The og member like Jihyo also gets lesser screen time lately, and she admitted that's because she doesn't talk a lot and is more quiet. If your comments are interesting, there's no way your part will be edited out. I've been a fan of running man for years, and I somewhat understand what the show is like.
@tana-mm8bp
Ай бұрын
that gfriend clip is sooo important for me not joking (miss them sm)
@sonyeolovessweaters
2 ай бұрын
Very good analysis. Glad I watched this video
@Miranda16277
Ай бұрын
excellent editing, i thought i was watching a tv show! you're really good, made me very interested on the content!
@laketuna
2 ай бұрын
Interesting and accurate observation of this particular guest , but there are plenty of other “beauties” who get plenty of screen and talking time on Running Man. Show has progressed over the years to be less cringy toward pretty girls, but it’s just not true that this observation in the norm in the show. RM always gives screen time to the funniest person.
@hmhm856
7 ай бұрын
But would Seol have becomed famous if she wasnt a “silent beauty”? Would she have been casted for as many dramas?
@mimimosa259
Ай бұрын
Damn… very nice analysis. It’s insane how they can commercialize a person into an “object”
@CheatinMilk
28 күн бұрын
Awesome video editing! Enjoyed watching it, really professionally. Hope to see more of if in the future!
@NotYouAgain28
2 ай бұрын
I wouldnt tag the issue to the show... the idol industries are trying to push that image to their idols. so its not just running man, but actually every single other show that they are going to. and its still happening now. like with Wonyoung. they literally wrote as her talent being just "beauty". And these "talents" are all distributed by the companies that the idols are under. And its not only with women, but with men as well... Yeosang from ateez for example was forced by the company to lose muscle to remain "the soft-looking pretty statue" as he was assigned by the company. Or Yunho from ateez he has just the "golden retriever boyfriend" as e title even though he plays piano, was doing martial arts etc. Those talents are never mentioned or showcased on shows or during their promotion. We hear about their talents only from fan meetings.
@ricemonkey85
Ай бұрын
This video is really well done
@chimmypark1603
2 ай бұрын
Insightful video!
@dokessezeaka5159
2 ай бұрын
I’ve been watching A0A done around 2014 after mini skirt came out and was a hit. Seolhyun, choa and jimim were the most memorable and recognizable members. I remembered even the orange marmalade drama came out, i one of the webtoon but never finished it. I thought that was her first acting role, but shes been in so many dramas that show her personality.
@glencoconut
2 ай бұрын
this is such a well thought out, well edited video omg
@iguess7997
2 ай бұрын
Incredible video
@wazowski2730
3 ай бұрын
Thanks for making something great like this. I hope everyone could watch the video.
@lisa.222
2 ай бұрын
Side not but i find something intriguing. In general. When you are beautiful either ppl ignore your personally weither it be good or bad or if younare beautiful or handsome ppl will be more open to your accepting your personality rather than if you were ugly. And it seems if you are not attractive,yoi have to over compensate for it by being outgoing,funny or having and exagerated personality in order to be recognized and wanted by ppl.
@thesage6721
2 ай бұрын
Sulli R.I.P
@jamjam7881
Жыл бұрын
It would be nice if you could do a review o Brave Family as a variety show. It was frustrating for me at first bec they literally dumped different people to play family and left them to fend on their own. but gradually fell inlove with the casts. especially the dad and the uncle and most especially, Seolhyun.
@jamjam7881
Жыл бұрын
it's so sad they never got another season. it would be fun to watch rven if they chNge the casts
@HKim0072
7 ай бұрын
Yeah, totally frames her differently. She was game for anything on that show. And, it's still available on KZitem.
@bryanxie
Ай бұрын
I think you're missing out on the "age" culture of Korea. People greatly respect and judge others based on age and experience. And because of this, the young guests might not speak alot during the show. What happened to Seolhyun actually happened to most young idol group members, where they are typeset into roles like visual, dancer etc. Based on my anecdotal experience, watching RM, some blackpink members get lesser %time than her. I'm glad you recognised that RM is also maturing in their interactions with their guests. I dont think Seolhyun won anything at the 2015 APAN Awards, please correct me if I'm wrong. She was definitely nominated. Also, RM ep278/9 was filmed in Dec 8, 11 days after the awards date, which she did not win anything. Overall your video is well made, but I feel its missing crrtain Korean cultural nuances and im sensing some slight bias towards Seolhyun. Understandably so, with her great acting skills.
@thereddevils091
Жыл бұрын
Amazing video
@mrstackeyface
2 ай бұрын
Awesome video, super coherent and informative!
@user-ur1lm4nn4w
2 ай бұрын
Seolhyun is just human that i love ❤❤❤😢
@mkok-pi2jl
10 ай бұрын
The woman who always wins first place in my heart.
@redzoro92
2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, while well intended, your subject matter lacks the authenticity to make a good argument. I like Running Man, but I can agree it’s shallow at times. But your arguments are lacking & could use more evidence to improve your stance. Let me explain: 1. It’d do you well if you actually compared her personality to her guest appearance in other shows. Use Weekly Idol to show how she’s different (granted that’s a talking show focused only on the idols so it feels unfair, nevertheless you should still do it.) 2. Do better research, bcuz if you’ve seen RM, you’d know other beauty icons like Suzy, IU, Wonyoung & more are able to secure screen time thru personality & funny moments. 3. The latter eps, Seolhyun is not only better adjusted to variety, but was also there with teams. Not to mention, some clips you show are of her members making comments & not her. So show her w/ her members & w/out as some idols are quite introverted. And I do believe Seolhyun is. 4. Probably a super important one, is compare her to the other guests of her earlier ep & see how each differ & how that may or may not contribute to screen time.
@fariyabano5995
Ай бұрын
Exactly!! Perfectly said. This analysis just seems to narrow minded, especially as someone who has been following and watching running man for years. It’s almost like he’s blaming the show and PD rather than the agency.
@SailorLapisLazuli
17 сағат бұрын
This was an excellent video essay and I loved the presentation style. I have never been able to stand watching Korean variety shows precisely for this reason; the degrading obsession with being beautiful and nothing else. Despite being a K-pop fan for 12 years now, I have only enjoyed my ventures into Korean movies and dramas.
@rxrmv
2 ай бұрын
wow !! thank u for this !! kim seolhyun is the forgotten it girl of her time.
@justgetmeahandle
2 ай бұрын
I agree about the beauty icon part, but many other parts come into play that this video fails to mention... It's not a very in-depth analysis when it tries to establish the link between beauty icon and being silenced.
@rodie3602
2 ай бұрын
Great video!
@LgFaver
2 ай бұрын
this was a great piece, kudos! I must say, I'm glad I'm not a super Kpop fan, I'm more into dramas than anything. but yeah there is some unavoidable overlapping, can't really escape it. Still, I think with actresses it's really a lot different and not as odd/weird.
@paolala
7 ай бұрын
aoa is still one of my top girl group so i loved this video
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