we definitely need a part two, Rusty Lake has so much to it!!
@zefiewings
4 ай бұрын
It will be the next video!
@miraa2k16
4 ай бұрын
Ive needed a full part series for ever since cube escape seasons came out
@zefiewings
4 ай бұрын
yeah there is a LOT going on in this series.
@MultiMariana55
3 ай бұрын
A Rusty Lake timeline that also includes The Past Within and is a relatively long video? SIGN ME UP!! Liked and subscribed, thanks for taking the time to do this
@zefiewings
3 ай бұрын
Thank you very much! More to come :)
@luisdelamora8078
Ай бұрын
This series is way underated
@zefiewings
Ай бұрын
I completely agree!
@nowherenest
4 ай бұрын
Welcome onboard! I'm really glad to see more theorists popping up. And you made a great video, you really did. And to celebrate I want to point out some moments. I'm keeping in mind that you are trying to keep theories out for now but just in case you have missed something: 1) You were talking about the golden cube being an idea of unity of other cubes. I'm convinced it's a little off, not every cube could be used for that. The black and white ones should have specifically come from Laura and, as depicted in the book and on a mural in The Cave, contained William's memories of elixir elements. 2) Just like in Paradise really. Jakob ascended not because he was burnt but because Caroline took her elixir elements from her memories and made them react with Jakob's soul (it's pretty graphic in the ending if you look at it) basically emulating normal elixir ritual. 3) Speaking of the guests, they have to be the Eilanders ascended after they sacrificed Jakob. Mr. Rabbit that came to kill Dale's parents presented himself as D. Eilander (that would be David) and just like his Hotel counterpart he was a magician. I get that you may not take my word here but on Gamescom 2023 the devs said that all Mr. Rabbits are the same person and since he's an demigod now so should be the rest of the family, hence the guests. 4) The term enlightenment is used for a lot of different cases lately. It's not only becoming an animal person anymore. So is called the achievement for Laura's rebirth in Samsara Room and Roses merging into a tree. Also, I think it was never about true immortality, as seen in The Cave. It seems the elixir can prolong one's life as long as it stays in their body but the problem is, it gradually goes out. With feces at least. That's why Mr. Owl and Mr. Crow are now weak and that's why they can reconsume the dog's extract to stretch their time a little further. 5) Speaking of Emma not sending her letter in 1891. You have my praise here! You'll probably be surprised how many people miss and sometimes choose to ignore the facts you've brought up. My respect! 6) It's weird but after reflecting a bit, I found no good reason to believe the bird-like corrupted soul that stalked Albert to be Mr. Crow. I still believe he's the most likely candidate but it doesn't really adopt his silhouette and, besides that, corruption is quite a big deal to be switched on and off easily. 7) The last thing I want to highlight is The Past from TPW. I do believe that Albert somehow knew about his upcoming demise and made a cubical device (we have evidence for that) but I find Rose using it in the original timeline debatable. My major point of concern is the ending. It looks like Rose left the reality to become a tree and it happened way before Laura was born. Normally, it would contradict the whole further timeline. Again, glad to see you here and looking forward for your next videos. It's not only you are doing something for the community, you are taking it seriously and the quality of your content is that good from the start. I wish you luck!
@zefiewings
4 ай бұрын
Wow thank you for the write up! I'll address all your points here! 1) yeah I defiantly had to do a cliff notes version of the cubes here, I had a bit more explanation in the first draft but it was just too rambling for a quick aside. The idea for that section was just to give a quick overview of some themes to onboard anyone who was going in blind, and I defiantly need to get into the cubes more in a future video, I just wanted the most basic awareness of their existence. 2) This was poor wording on my part, I didn't mean to imply it was being burnt that assended Jakob, I was just trying to list the sequence of events: that he was burned and then he mixed with the memories and ascended. I intentionally didn't get into how that might have worked because I felt that the elixar, like the cubes, deserved its own video. 3) yes I defiantly know that the hotel guests are the Eilanders reborn, and my first draft went into that a lot more. But it made the scrip very long and I felt it was pretty complex to go into the different rebirth traces in the series. Thats also on my list to go into further (there is a lot to talk about in Rusty Lake!) 4) Thats a fair criticism, I may be using enlightenment too strictly. 5) Thank you! I tried to keep theory out of it but since this video is specifically meant to lay out the sequence of events I decided to leave that one in there. 6) This is another great point I hadn't considered. Mr. Crow shows up a lot in that game as a sort of spirit the family cant really see so I lumped them together in my brain, but that moment defiantly looks different and I don't know why he'd look corrupted. This is going on my list to dig into further thank you! 7) I see what you mean that what I put was unintentionally theory. When I played the game I took immediately to the idea that there are two versions in TPW, the more animated version where you walk around the room and do the puzzles is inside the memory cube inside the device, the more 3d version interacting with just the device is what literally happened in that point in time. So in 1926 Rose put aspects of Albert into a cube, into the device. So there is a version of her, a memory cube version, inside the device. And the memory/cube/spirit inside the device is what reformed with future Rose. Either way I'm still ok with putting that part in here; I think even if it was just a bit Rose had to have interacted with the device in 1926, and I felt it was important to draw attention to that aspect of TPW happening at this point in the timeline. TPW seems like it needs a video all its own though lmao Thank you for your feedback!
@nowherenest
4 ай бұрын
@@zefiewings I think the 2D/3D style difference in TPW is mostly gameplay if not entirely so. The Past stays inside the black cube even though we moved it from the device. That's crucial for the plan and the ending. Speaking of which, to further prove my point, the ending combines the 2 styles for both rooms. They feature 2D characters amidst 3D environments.
@zefiewings
4 ай бұрын
@@nowherenest Interestingly I considered that evidence for my interpretation; that the memories/cubes were mixing with reality. Either way its defiantly more into theory/interpretation territory, so I'll have to make a whole video on it sometime to explore my thoughts :)
@nowherenest
4 ай бұрын
@@zefiewings I think, since TPW, cubes just have to be realities. Or rather doors into them. The Future was real though and through, it had real causes (the kidnap, the research) and real consequences (the tree, Albert in BKM) and creation of the golden cube didn't change it. The Past, even though it was called a memory, was able to change the real Future and therefore had to be just as real. The only question, is it the same reality or a bunch of them?
@biyukun
4 ай бұрын
I'm amazed at how well you did all this! I've played all the games, and I only really understood about 60 percent of the lore. I'd looove to see a part two. I just finished Underground Blossom and would love to see all of Laura's life featured in the games put together.
@zefiewings
4 ай бұрын
It's filmed and im working on the edit! It was just a bit delayed because I wanted to get the underground blossom stuff in there :) Thank you for the kind comment!
@MartinStribing
4 ай бұрын
Loved the the explanation, really easy to follow. Thanks, I'll be waiting for part 2!
@zefiewings
4 ай бұрын
thank you! It's in progress, just adding some new underground blossom stuff to the script!
@twicethess-ratedghoul7859
3 ай бұрын
This is great !! I’m so happy to see someone doing a lore vid on this amazing franchise. Can’t wait to see more !
@zefiewings
3 ай бұрын
Thank you! More will absolutely be coming!
@NoirCrow
3 ай бұрын
Such a great video on one of my teenage favorites. And ending it in a reference to The Crow? Chefs kiss.
@zefiewings
3 ай бұрын
lol Thank you! Love that movie~! And Rusty Lake is my favorite too!
@lauriesandham9298
4 ай бұрын
The Rusty Lak series finally makes sense LOL
@zefiewings
4 ай бұрын
Oh I wouldn't go that far: we have a lot to figure out yet! lmao
@efad3215
4 ай бұрын
Harvey who?
@porterjones6022
4 ай бұрын
Hey! Just wanted to say, excellent write-up and presentation! I think you made it especially accessible and engaging for newcomers. I found out about this series in 2021, and I loved diving deep into the series trying to piece everything together. Looking forward to see your next videos!
@zefiewings
4 ай бұрын
Thank you! Part 2 is coming soon!
@beatricedamian3863
4 ай бұрын
This game’s aesthetic is like a crisscross between American Horror Story and Hannibal 👌
@zefiewings
4 ай бұрын
Its very weird!
@mialee5545
4 ай бұрын
I’ve been looking for someone to explain this!! Thank you so much!!
@zefiewings
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching! I'm happy to dive into the lore of this series! :)
@rimi2037
4 ай бұрын
really liked this video! there aint many timeline videos of rusty lake and im always happy to see one, especially now its a new video :D
@zefiewings
4 ай бұрын
I'm very glad you liked it!
@Ghost-pu3qi
4 ай бұрын
I alreday love this channel and im only 2 minutes in! I hope your channel grows to the potential it has! 🎀 I love the rusty lake games and i've always wanted to find people to theorize with!
@zefiewings
4 ай бұрын
Wow that means a lot! Thank you very much.
@NiKO-yo8tz
3 ай бұрын
Its rare to see people talk about this game. This game is one of my favourite
@zefiewings
3 ай бұрын
Thank you! Me too, I absolutely love this series.
@darea540
Ай бұрын
Omg I love you this is soooo good
@zefiewings
Ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@jartistsimpression2291
4 ай бұрын
My theory on then end of paradise....... I dont think its just Jacob who achieved enlightenment but whom ever/what ever are close to the well when the ritual happened. For me that explains the Harvy, Mr.toad, and Mr.Bat. And also the similarities between Jacob's family and Hotel guests. There seems to be Levels when it comes to enlightenment. Jacob now Mr. Owl and Mr. Crow became humanoid and also have the memories of there past. Jacob's family and few animal just became humanoid with no evidence suggesting they remember any of there past. There are few hands which gained sentience of some form. Not to mention the dog who never became humanoid but just immortal. There might be a higher enlightenment level because Mr.Owl mentioned a 'full elixir' in Caves I think.
@zefiewings
4 ай бұрын
There is definitely more to that scene and enlightenment in the series in general, and I'll definitely be talking about it more in the future. I've also thought about if Harvey, Mr.toad, and Mr. Bat were just animals caught in the ritual and it's certainly a compelling theory. I've never thought about the hands as being like this, but you are right that they certainly have a level of sentience. I'll have to think more on that. As for Harvey, I hesitate to include him with the likes of bat and toad because he just seems so much more important. From a storytelling perspective it feels like he should be more important than that, though me wishing it doesn't make it so. That said, I actually have come up with a theory I like about Harvey and will absolutely be doing, though I think more I might have to do more general theme videos first like the cubes, the elixir/ritual, and enlightenment. I'm really excited to talk about it as soon as reasonable though!
@jartistsimpression2291
4 ай бұрын
@@zefiewings Iam excited to here your theories. keep up the great work.
@Shandrii
4 ай бұрын
I love how well researched this video is.
@zefiewings
4 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@aaronwhitmer4922
4 ай бұрын
This is a great breakdown and very thorough. I hope to hear more! I just found and played through the series, so now I'm trying to understand what is going on.
@zefiewings
4 ай бұрын
To be fair, I have played it a lot and I am stull trying to understand whats going on too. lmao
@Nonne9894
4 ай бұрын
good to know someone is passionate with this series, keep it up!
@zefiewings
4 ай бұрын
Very! Part 2 is in process
@Ezymythril
4 ай бұрын
great work, hope you do more. i have loved the rusty lake games and haven't seen that many people make videos on them
@zefiewings
4 ай бұрын
Thank you! I have part 2 of the timeline in progress and a whole list of future video ideas for after that!
@Ezymythril
4 ай бұрын
yeah, rusty lake has been my favorite niche game. i've always like the story and see other people's theories. i came here from nowherenest's newest vid where they shouted you out
@lauriesandham9298
4 ай бұрын
I am so looking forward to part 2! Question; why didn't Frank just yell for help? Someone at some point must have been near the well.
@zefiewings
4 ай бұрын
It may be just because he was scared. It shows later that Albert had access to him from the lab where he fed him but also teased him and pestered him. We don't know how badly he would torcher him from in there but considering he had him from 6 years old it probably wasn't hard to get him under his thumb. that said, Rose found him somehow so he probably did eventually call out when Albert was away and he heard a new voice.
@jj-jl8vl
10 күн бұрын
Don't you think the animals in the paradise hotel are the Eilander family? At the end of Rusty Lake Paradise, the family members wear animal masks. The same as in Rusty Lake Hotel. Anyway, I love your theories and videos!
@zefiewings
5 күн бұрын
Yes! and no... The characters in Hotel have established backstories that seem to contradict them being exactly the same characters. For example when Hotel was announced there were character profiles that included Height, Age and Profession. And if we look at Mr. Boar's announcement it says he is 52. That would make his birthday around 1841 with Hotel taking place in 1893. But obviously, that's not Gerard's birthday (the uncle who wears the boar mask) with Paradise taking place in 1796. Well then maybe it just froze them at their age, after all, they didn't actually say Mr. Boar's birthday is 1841 just that he is 52, and Gerard seems like he could be 52. Except that it's not that simple either since Mrs. Pigeon is listed as 39 and the family member who wears the Pigeon mask is Margaret..., Gerard's mom. So that doesn't work. HOWEVER, we can't say it's just a coincidence because Mr. Rabbit is explicitly called D. Eilander in Paradox. Here's what it seems like to me: Unlike Jacob who was Transformed immediately into Mr. Owl the rest of the family was reborn after the fact into the animal characters. They have different lives and jobs and at least some of them are aware of their past lives but a rebirth is a separate character like William and Laura and different from transformations like Jacob (Owl) and Alduos (Crow).
@Federi58
2 ай бұрын
Great job😊❤
@zefiewings
2 ай бұрын
Thank you! The timeline was a lot of work so it was a wild one to start with but they turned out pretty well!
@NeonAtary777
3 ай бұрын
I found my people 😂 I am the kind of person that hyper fixates on something specific for a long time. I have been wishing to discuss this game with someone but no one seems to play it around me.
@zefiewings
3 ай бұрын
Found us! I'd love to have you in my discord, I stream this series (and others) a lot and we talk theories and stuff in the chat and discord all the time!
@lolojdabanana6622
4 ай бұрын
i grew up on rusty lake lol
@zefiewings
4 ай бұрын
awsome! It's only been in my life for 7 years but it quickly shot to the top of my favourite series list!
@mazzystarismyreligion
4 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video omg
@zefiewings
4 ай бұрын
Thank YOU :)
@DeadFanbases
4 ай бұрын
Ooooh! Not one vut two channels interested in rusty lake? Must be my lucky day! The Rusty Truth is the other one i found talking about it, maybe you can share theories ;)
@zefiewings
4 ай бұрын
Very exciting! I'll have to check their channel out, thank you!
@lakshaycheeda5023
4 ай бұрын
Keep it up my sis
@zefiewings
4 ай бұрын
Thank you, I will
@lyhadeel_147
4 ай бұрын
Brooooo, how did you manage to get that painting out,behind you? :3
@zefiewings
4 ай бұрын
Isn't it beautiful?! It's available right from their merch store, legitimately the best peice of gaming merch I own and that's saying something
@lyhadeel_147
4 ай бұрын
@@zefiewings Anyway I like Rusty Lake Timeline me too
@CamilleChauTempsDesCerises
4 ай бұрын
A person all dressed in black with a pride flag in the background talking about indie game theories? No doubt, I'm in the right place!
@Absbor
15 күн бұрын
shout out to Rusty Lake for making me into a furry
@icosahedron3
15 күн бұрын
I truly don't even know what to say to this... Congratulations?? For being weird??
@Absbor
14 күн бұрын
@@icosahedron3 thx. was born weird and queer. Really, just being a furry is a bonus. xD
@zefiewings
14 күн бұрын
lmao no no you're just Enlightened ;)
@Absbor
14 күн бұрын
@@zefiewings after all these disney furry movies. yes xD
@icosahedron3
14 күн бұрын
@@Absbor it adds to character! Just means you're not boring lol. Sorry if i came off as mean earlier, 😅
@red-0
4 ай бұрын
You are supposed to cut the dead parts from the video when you aren't speaking it break the immersion if you don't know how there's ai tools to help u with that i want to see more people talking about this game so keep at it
@zefiewings
4 ай бұрын
Most of the dead air was certainly removed, what was left was either for an intentional dramatic pause or because I moved too much between sentences and it made the cut too awkward. Almost all the cuts were done intentionally seamlessly, rather than the style where one jumps back and forth, or there are literally no breaths of pause. It's just a style thing and I don't need it to be quite that fast paced. Thank you for watching!
@sad_boi_hours5397
3 ай бұрын
What are your pronouns
@zefiewings
3 ай бұрын
Welcome! I use she/they, though I prefer They online somewhat because my IRL life most people use she so I want to balance that out a bit lol. But either is fine.
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