Penny should have stayed “dead” or had her repaired and upgraded into a new model becoming a new character leaving the original Penny still dead.
@Dave102693
4 жыл бұрын
Like the Old Reinforce vs Reinforce Zweil.
@amoil6537
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. A new model that may possess memories or damaged memories but lacks the personality of the original Penny. In the manga, Eden's Zero, *spoiler warning* an android is killed off and one of their comrades states that all her memories were uploaded to a cloud server so it'd be no problem bringing her back. But ultimately, they all decide against doing it because although the android would have all the memories restored, the android would be missing out on all the emotions those moments brought and would result in a new personality. A completely different persona. So in Eden's Zero universe, that raised the stakes because half the cast are androids and that death proved any of the main characters could die. But in RWBY's universe, I guess Miles and Kerry decided to f**k over the character's feelings. No characters, who fans cares about, dies yay~~~~ Except Pyrrha, Torchwick and Pilot Boi. Pilot Boi, the best thing that happened in Volume 5.
@williamharmon4039
4 жыл бұрын
@@amoil6537 Somebody I once talked to insisted that memories themselves make us who we are and that if Penny's memories were put into an empty shell or new robot body then those experiences would create the same emotions and personality. I disagree with that and think that there is probably a difference between viewing memories secondhand and actually experience them.
@TheIntratec9
4 жыл бұрын
@Aneko Foxx @Vexed Viewer Rebuild of Eva actually played with this concept - the protag ACTUALLY saved the girl, but there were actual consequences. Plus, there was another version of the girl who was treated badly when the protag found the truth. Now Girl #2 is having an identity crisis (even to the grand finale) at being compared to the original and the protag has a mental breakdown. While Max will tell you it was poorly executed in Rebuild, that just goes to show how bad this moment in RWBY was in comparion.
@amoil6537
4 жыл бұрын
@@williamharmon4039 yeah, the androids address that issue. When viewing the memories secondhand, the android will be missing the neurotransmitters, the emotions that were caused by that memory. In other words, it's just an android with a copy of memories. That's it. They don't want a replacement and pretend that nothing bad happened.
@mercuryblack
4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, as much as I liked that she's back, I gotta admit that she should've suffered at least some consequences, such as memory loss. It woud've made her return bittersweet.
@Salemwaaa
4 жыл бұрын
Mercury Black Imagine Ruby running to Penny rejoicing that she’s alive but only for her to get punched in her chest with the “who are you?” Or her emotions being wiped clean and her only existing as a tool for Atlas’s survival
@thgritic102
4 жыл бұрын
Memory loss OR a glitch happening within her from the damage that she received (almost like PTSD but robotic). Like if she tries to remember what happened in vol 3, she glitches out pretty badly (like how the other Spidermen in Into the Spiderverse glitched out).
@aohu7505
4 жыл бұрын
well... you asked for it, and the delivered.... kinda...
@millennial_weeb2382
4 жыл бұрын
AJtheGritic That’s a bit much? They established that she has her own Aura and when she originally died that was the reason she wasn’t going to come back because her Aura disappeared. Imo they retconned being able to recover her “core” and save her. But realistically they would’ve just built a new Robot and given it a new Aura.
@johnking9943
4 жыл бұрын
I can see how that could've worked: what if, instead of the Ace-Ops, we had Penny 2.0 Don't get me wrong, I like the Ace-Ops; Marrow is best boi and I could even get behind the Lucky Charms ship. But I keep thinking of a rewrite to both Penny and the Ace-Ops arcs that I'd really like a second opinion on: What if, instead of the Ace-Ops arresting the teams, Penny shows up. They have the same moment of disbelief as when Penny originally reappeared, but when Penny turns to them... she arrests them. When Ruby tries to appeal to her, saying that they're friends, Penny has a momentary glitch, but then refocuses on her protocols, and still arrests them (or maybe only stops when Pietro tells her to). With that, we're introduced to Penny 2.0: she looks like Penny; she sounds like Penny, but all her old memories are gone. Or are they? Throughout the volume, Ruby gets repeated hints that Penny has a 'faint' recollection of her time with Ruby, building up hope that she can be brought back. We can even include her conversation with Winter about emotions against orders, and we make the audience believe that Penny is going to recover her memories and go back to the way she was before the Fall of Beacon. But ultimately, when Episode 11 comes around, and Ironwood turns on the team, instead of the Ace-Ops, Penny is there. And when Ironwood orders her to arrest them, Penny is forced to make that choice. Now, personally, I like the path where she sticks to her protocol and fights RWBY, partially because she feels just as betrayed by Blake and Yang's actions and maybe even Ruby lying to them about Salem, and they have to beat her in an emotional and heart-wrenching battle. But, I'm also open to them winning the fight by appealing to Penny's humanity, with her rejecting her programming and joining RWBY to let them escape. What do you guys think? Could this have worked as a potential rewrite? Which path at the end would be better? Please let me know, and thanks for your time.
@SpammytheHedgehog
4 жыл бұрын
Pyrrha ripped Penny in half. Four seasons later, she grows long hair.
@celrokproduction
4 жыл бұрын
LMFAO you bastard that was a sneaky fire-shot
@Redstar2613
4 жыл бұрын
I honestly believe Penny having long hair is a poor attempt to make up for Blake cutting her hair this Volume. And I say "poor" because, at least in my opinion, Penny looks awful with long hair, while Blake looks awful with short hair.
@Abyss3223
4 жыл бұрын
I wish that's how Bland got her hair cut
@Abyss3223
4 жыл бұрын
@@Redstar2613 its just cause that's the design they used from Dishwasher from a year ago sadly.
@goldenbrigain7031
4 жыл бұрын
@@Redstar2613 I think penny looks great with long hair, but yeah blake put no effort into her new look, and it shows.
@piratesofthecomedian
4 жыл бұрын
Not to mention that Penny's father didnt take the hint that her daughter might be manipulated by the villains again! And yet he brought her back anyway despite him even saying that Atlas security coded were hacked! They even brought back the easily hackable robots from V3! WHY DOES RWBY HAVE BAD PARENTS???
@HoV326
4 жыл бұрын
Raven: abandons her daughter when she was a baby, literally took part in a battle that literally could have gotten her daughter killed (while on the opposing side), etc. Jacques: No introduction needed Willow: Alcoholic Saphron and Terra: Literally used their baby son as a tool to aid in stealing from the military Marcus: stole his son's semblance Salem: Decided to duke it out with Ozpin, getting her kids killed in the process Tai: From what Yang described in V5, neglectful, which would explain how Yang got out that one time with Ruby when they were kids and almost got killed. The best parents we pretty much have are Kali, and Ghira And we don't really know enough about Summer.
@demetriusprime1505
4 жыл бұрын
@@HoV326 I mean Khali and Ghira let their child run around the world apart of the TERRORIST White Fang group. They had faith their daughter wouldn't do anything bad... Besides being a bystander in multiple murders while also stealing some stuff and could have possibly died by Grimm or people who hate Faunus. They probably read the script on how cannon fodder Grimm are and that humans are barely even racist.
@demetriusprime1505
4 жыл бұрын
@@HoV326 Also who's Saphron and Terra? Wait is that Jaune's sister?
@benjaminmcneil574
4 жыл бұрын
@@HoV326 RWBY. The show where there isn't a SINGLE family without *VERY* damaging issues. Unless they're Kali and Ghira. And even then, their peace movement turned into a terrorist movement. And their daughter chose the terrorists. Not fun.
@HoV326
4 жыл бұрын
@@demetriusprime1505 yeah
@hardrockmusickid
4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to this day Torchwhick's ghost is still referenced. It's like Jello started something.
@returnedtomonkey8886
4 жыл бұрын
Torchwhick would be Rwby version of Ghost Nappa.
@JDVN7
4 жыл бұрын
Torchwick's ghost x Adam's ghost since this show is all about shipping(gay or not) and characters returning since there is no "stakes".
@amoil6537
4 жыл бұрын
I hope Jello's joke becomes a meme as a testament to the bad writing
@Tom531Cat
4 жыл бұрын
Vlad 117 I can now see Ghost Torchwick trying to strangling Ghost Nappa and Vegeta approving of this... O_O
@CebraRazr
4 жыл бұрын
@@returnedtomonkey8886 HOLY FUCK, YES! XD
@thgritic102
4 жыл бұрын
I really wished she lost her memories when she came back. Like, if her soul/motherboard was in her 'heart' and was stated as such, she got sliced up around said area, it would have been destroyed, she lost her memories, and built back up without any recollection of what happened. That way, when Ruby meets again, although change it to her actually running up to Penny crying and hugging, Penny would just look at her and say "I'm sorry but who are you?" with a shocked Ruby backing away **end scene** THAT way it would have been more impactful than Penny remembering everything and everyone and Ruby's very lackluster reunion. So I feel like the motherboard/soul was in her head/brain area, causing her to still have her memories, but that means her shutting down after her 'death' was pointless and said 'death' was completely pointless as well. Because if I saw a friend who I thought was 'dead' walking around, I would be balling like a baby like Sora did with Riku in KH2.
@benjaminmcneil574
4 жыл бұрын
"I couldn't save the Penny from before...so I'll do whatever it takes to protect the Penny that's with me now!" Random stuff.
@thetruestar6348
4 жыл бұрын
THINK ABOUT THIS TOO BEACON where they got her memory/core from was Infested by tons of Grimm and also in volume three when the Grimm landed in the arena her body went flying in the arena.
@Neo-op3iz
4 жыл бұрын
the true Star maybe they were lying? This volumes theme is *trust* after all.
@thetruestar6348
4 жыл бұрын
@@Neo-op3iz Thats stupid
@vanguard-_-3149
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I definitely would be ugly crying if saw my friend alive and well
@mumblerogre2455
4 жыл бұрын
“A show where anyone can die” *accept for anyone without red hair or in the main cast*
@darao.4907
4 жыл бұрын
Except for any one with more than two lines (people with more than two lines will come back by fan request)
@budgetbrick5124
4 жыл бұрын
Or thats popular or you know have a knee jerk reactions to the fan and make pandering move trying to bring back your rapping shrinking fan base
@petergeramin7195
4 жыл бұрын
Actually ONLY redheads die. Pyrrha and Adam. Penny is a ROBOT. Robots can't die, only destroyed. Yes, penny has a soul but as long as they have her parts they can bring her back
@captainchaos5705
4 жыл бұрын
@@petergeramin7195 sort of
@thomasraines1396
Жыл бұрын
Except Cinder.
@salgutierrez4710
4 жыл бұрын
"Everyone loves Bumblebee" Vexed, I didn't know you did comedy!
@VexedViewer
4 жыл бұрын
That's what the writers think. lol
@tdfern1
4 жыл бұрын
@@VexedViewer have the writers met you?
@henriquemartins7206
4 жыл бұрын
@@tdfern1 ?
@DemonicRemption
4 жыл бұрын
@Sal Gutierrez No kidding, I've lost count of how many LGBT RWBY fans complain in youtube comment sections about how forced it is. So yeah that phrase is a joke...
@tdfern1
4 жыл бұрын
@@DemonicRemption that's cause the writers gone woke. That's why.
@93ImagineBreaker
4 жыл бұрын
You'd think ruby would be crying rivers seeing penny alive.
@GameBreaker1055
4 жыл бұрын
"Oh cool, Penny's alive"
@93ImagineBreaker
4 жыл бұрын
@@GameBreaker1055 which was the mood an makes her death pointless
@GameBreaker1055
4 жыл бұрын
@@93ImagineBreaker exactly. The screwed up the entire scene massively. it also did not help that the opening spoiled everything
@93ImagineBreaker
4 жыл бұрын
@@GameBreaker1055 it was more like students coming back from summer break not a girl seeing her bf come back to life
@princesskorkoyah5398
3 жыл бұрын
The least they could have done was to make it so that Penny lost her memorys but no
@MakaylaTomasi
4 жыл бұрын
I'm not even going to lie. I didn't even watch the episode before friends were posting the spoiler about Penny being alive. And as soon as I heard about it, I broke into hysterical cackling because I knew, I KNEW you'd make this video. After hearing how you reiterated how you didn't want her back a few times in the livestream, I was just like, "Vex is gonna flip shit."
@JDB100
4 жыл бұрын
Could be worse. They could of added her to the Blake Harem along with Yang, Sun, Ilia and the deceased Adam.
@Dave102693
4 жыл бұрын
Ewww no
@nosauceorbrothchild8772
4 жыл бұрын
Joel Bissainthe Tru
@frillycreation8922
4 жыл бұрын
The Blake Harem LOL
@marqusmedina5983
4 жыл бұрын
Joel Bissainthe insert office meme *NO! NO GOD PLEASE NO! NO! NOOOOO....*
@asuna5701
4 жыл бұрын
I’m wheezing 😂
@johntorreto4485
4 жыл бұрын
Writers: WHAT IS THAT!!! WTF IS THAT!!!! RWBY: Actual Character development, Sir!!!! *Burns it in holy fire* Writers: I Never, EVER want to see you using it again!!! RWBY: Yes, Sir!!! *Sobs quietly*
@itspienoon7883
4 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@hoesmad3054
4 жыл бұрын
I love RWBY, but this is so true😂😂
@JesseGolo
4 жыл бұрын
I gave Penny some development: kzitem.info/news/bejne/t6yFu5usrYqCeWU
@coolgirl2044
4 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@arnowisp6244
4 жыл бұрын
Holy fire? Don't you mean infernal flames because only the unholy would recede from the sight of good story telling.
@OTheDetective
4 жыл бұрын
When I found out that they brought penny back with all her memories and it just felt hollow to me like you couldn't just leave her dead Let us remember the joy that she brought it to the show it just feels so shallow and the fact that Pennies return is played up as a joke pisses me off even more Ruby should be down on the ground bawling her eyes out happy that her friend is back but no it's just a joke
@MisteRRYouTuby
4 жыл бұрын
That's the problem. They have no backbone to respect these characters unless fans DEMAND they respect themor kill them, in the case of Adam...they'll just cave in to pressure like always...to quote the first Star Wars IX trailer: No one's ever REALLY gone...
@loiiysailor1177
4 жыл бұрын
This is getting out of hand I stop watch after vol 5 this show is now boring they got nothing but lame jokes force shipping and stupid fan service all of this to make easy money they don't wanna listen to normal fans because HATERS but listen to toxic RBLS goes wahh wahh ships and yas queen this what happens when you let two chuck buckets running a show they didn't made themselves to putting their own shitty fan fic rwby is a joke and thats the sad truth
@deathxanamon7211
4 жыл бұрын
I saw it as something that was going to happen if they did bring Penny back it wouldn't make sense otherwise, because she's a robot her memories AKA her brain are stored in data, so unless the part of her body that has her memory core in it is destroyed she can't die, she is physically and spiritually incapable of death unless her brain is completely destroyed
@dracovoid2001
4 жыл бұрын
Have memories damaged and have her slowly get them back this would have made her return rewarding since there was build up plus it could lead to a moment where ruby is in danger and gets her memories back and have her unlock her semblance for added effect
@deathxanamon7211
4 жыл бұрын
@@dracovoid2001 I still think what they did makes sense, but I like your idea way better
@hero9267
4 жыл бұрын
Vex: let's see Grimm Pyrrha Miles and Kerry: right that down. Right that down!!
@bryana.escaleralopez
2 жыл бұрын
They're going to darth vader her. "She's been locked up all this time as a secret experiment"
@maxargentum5001
4 жыл бұрын
Damn, Rwby sure hates Redheads with good character writing...
@apchibidubtalia8286
4 жыл бұрын
Oh come on, how will they do that to Pyrah? Reincarnate her as some random person? Memories and powers return back at the last moment to fight alongside RWBY against Salem?
@andrewrogers3067
4 жыл бұрын
Decent, not good
@maxargentum5001
4 жыл бұрын
@@apchibidubtalia8286 No, that would be dumb. Pyrrah should never come back and If she does I will actually drop this show.
@Dave102693
4 жыл бұрын
@@apchibidubtalia8286 lol no plzkthx
@MisteRRYouTuby
4 жыл бұрын
@@apchibidubtalia8286 ...Red-Haired Woman from Volume 6 would like to have a little talk...(I REALLY hope I'm wrong, too)
@Volthoom
4 жыл бұрын
Considering the villains haven't had their shit together since the ending of vol3, this is even more hilarious. No, seriously, are Salem and her crew supposed to be a threat? Is Cinder supposed to be a threat? Don't even get me started on Grimm :D. In order to raise the stakes, what they actually needed to do in vol7, IMO, was double down on vol3 finale. Make the heroes lose so hard that the viewer can actually buy into the whole "holy shit we're fighting to save the world and losing". Because right now, who really cares if Ozpin has no plan to defeat Salem?
@93ImagineBreaker
4 жыл бұрын
best villain did post v3 was tyrain vs rnjr
@classicslayer456
4 жыл бұрын
Muzan from demon slayer is pretty much a Salem type character done right
@UnifiedEntity
4 жыл бұрын
Ozpin didn't have a plan for a hundred+ of years. Still kept Salem at Bay. Honestly, Salem being immortal doesn't seem pressing.
@Dave102693
4 жыл бұрын
@@classicslayer456 exactly
@brandonontama2415
4 жыл бұрын
They have to win in an way that makes sense though.
@ThatGreenMach1ne
4 жыл бұрын
You know what would've been cool? If there was a scene of the scientists struggling to make another robot that had a soul like Penny but kept failing horribly. That is until they made a robot that looked like Penny but didn't act like her. You know, for extra knife twisting potential.
@benjaminmcneil574
4 жыл бұрын
I noticed how many people are just twisting for that darkness ever since Volume 3... ...Why?
@thgritic102
4 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminmcneil574 Because these writers literally stated in an interview that after vol 3, it would be dark. What happened instead? Lighthearted moments, no real life threatening moments that weren't solve quickly (always solved literally the next episode or chapter), no actual deaths EXCEPT for Pyrrha (everyone else is just mentioned and that's it, and so on. What's the whole point of them even saying it will get dark when there are no true ramifications. Penny is literally back with her gd memories intact. Do you want more examples?
@benjaminmcneil574
4 жыл бұрын
@@thgritic102 I didn't feel that many lighthearted moments. If anything, everyone who isn't named Ruby just got more depressed.
@Frooti.loopz23
4 жыл бұрын
That's something I would have done
@Neo-op3iz
4 жыл бұрын
Shaelyn Green ^ this I have hope that this will be the case!
@SpammytheHedgehog
4 жыл бұрын
Pyrrha killed Penny. Cinder killed Pyrrha. Why is Cinder is still alive?
@brandonframe1743
4 жыл бұрын
You'd think a frozen Cinder falling a long way down would just shatter on impact. It looked to me like Raven froze her from the inside out; not just covered Cinder on ice.
@amoil6537
4 жыл бұрын
@@brandonframe1743 I thought the same too. Everyone was comparing the ice effects of Raven and Cinder getting frozen and Cinder indeed looked like she had been frozen from the inside out. You'd think ice falling at terminal velocity would at least fragment a tiny bit upon water surface impact BUT NOPE. Wish they'd kill off Cinder already.
@Dave102693
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@marqusmedina5983
4 жыл бұрын
Wyndell Lee Rooster teeth Kill off good villains- torchwich and Adam Keep bad villain- CINDER Do nothing with potential- Neo, most of the protagonist.
@Salemwaaa
4 жыл бұрын
Cinder has to...COOL DOWN this volume
@bondage8134
4 жыл бұрын
The fact that you mentioned torchwicks ghost makes this somehow even better
@KaiserShounen
4 жыл бұрын
We all know Penny was getting brought back, no doubt. Her having her memories though is a problem because they established her having a soul, and given how souls work in this universe, her "self" should have died in volume 3 (also how her core or hardrive didnt get damaged from the attack and sudden shutdown is beyond me). I would be fine with her being able to get back up Ghost in the Shell style if it was established beforehand... but it didnt. And now we have this lackluster reunion with ruby (who should be balling her eyes out just saying), and since she got brought back with seemingly zero consequences other than a timeskip and a hop, the tension in this show is literally as six feet under as she shouldve been. And it leads to less interesting stories that could have been done had she not have her memories back (especially in regards to giving ruby actually interesting characterization). This is a dumb move, and this coming from a guy who really likes Penny. Also given the bloated cast, there isnt much she can add to the dynamics anyways.
@patrickhoberg9270
4 жыл бұрын
“given how souls work in this universe” How do souls work in this universe?
@MisteRRYouTuby
4 жыл бұрын
@@patrickhoberg9270 Good question, but don't ask Miles and Kerry. They have no idea of what anything is in RWBY.
@Dave102693
4 жыл бұрын
Explain Ozpin and Salem.
@MisteRRYouTuby
4 жыл бұрын
@@Dave102693 Mistakes of the previous civilization making things worse in the current one...and one of them is doing absolutely nothing except flipping tables.
@Neo-op3iz
4 жыл бұрын
Michael Rivers and command large fleets of Grimm. But they’re pretty useless anyways.
I feel like there was a lot of explanation about her her return that they glossed over. How in the hell did they get to Amity Arena (which should be absolutely infested with grimm) and get her core back to Atlas. And if they actually just backed it up to a spare core or whatever and put it in a new body okay I guess that's fine? But there is no way she would still have her aura. Or do they just have a bunch of spare auras on standby just sitting in the backroom? Seriously I feel like they gave a really half-baked explanation as to how and why she's back.
@brandonframe1743
4 жыл бұрын
It's just crappy fan service
@benjaminmcneil574
4 жыл бұрын
@@brandonframe1743 Fanservice has become a buzzword.
@Hilversumborn
4 жыл бұрын
Marcelo Saunders Maybe Watts uses her as a sleeper agent?
@mindecon8084
4 жыл бұрын
well and since when Grimm are a problem in this show, a bunch of teenagers can kill all sorts of different kinds
@masterofthelag8414
4 жыл бұрын
Stealth probably. We already know there are chameleon faunus that can turn invisible and semblances that make grimm not notice you. Combine the two, wander in, pick up Penny and come back. As for the aura, there's really too little information. Perhaps it's some kind of hardware that generates it that can be built? (But is perhaps too expensive, complex or requires too rare components to mass produce). Perhaps a history of remnant episode or whatever that one was called could explain it if they start making those again.
@HyperShadow89
4 жыл бұрын
There’s only one thing that can change my mind about this being a bad decision; Penny gets hacked by Watts and Ruby is forced to kill her. Edit: And I mean really kill her. Core and all.
@thetruestar6348
4 жыл бұрын
Make it even worse by dragging the fight out and making it so Penny witnesses the entire fight and is screaming NO or Telling Ruby to end her, the entire time but, she knows she can't do anything about it because of the hacking and Ruby just has to kill her.
@joysimiakos7456
4 жыл бұрын
I wish they would do that, but I'm 99.9% positive they won't.
@Dave102693
4 жыл бұрын
That's metal.
@thetruestar6348
4 жыл бұрын
@@joysimiakos7456 M and K, just won't that smart with their two cells
@lunarrobot9714
4 жыл бұрын
RT dosent have the balls.
@OurDarkGoldenHero
4 жыл бұрын
Everyone in this series is like a damn Saiyan. They get injured and come back with an upgrade; Yang - a metal arm. Penny - from swords to freaky laser beams.
@benjaminmcneil574
4 жыл бұрын
That's battle anime in general.
@dycedargselderbrother5353
4 жыл бұрын
You joke but I've been waiting for the inevitable fusion for some time.
@loiiysailor1177
4 жыл бұрын
Rwby : everything is Sunshine and rainbows death dosent exist only to villains
@itsjustvin7630
4 жыл бұрын
Didnt Penny always had laser beams
@kevin13cabello
4 жыл бұрын
@@itsjustvin7630 Yeah she had lasers before but now they're even stronger and bigger I guess.
@93ImagineBreaker
4 жыл бұрын
i forgot how deeper and natural ruby's voice used to sound.
@thomasraines1396
Жыл бұрын
Her voice gets progressively more high pitched as she ages.
@93ImagineBreaker
Жыл бұрын
@@thomasraines1396 which i find weird
@thomasraines1396
Жыл бұрын
@@93ImagineBreaker I call it reverse puberty.
@93ImagineBreaker
Жыл бұрын
@@thomasraines1396 i did to
@thomasraines1396
Жыл бұрын
@@93ImagineBreaker oh nice.
@tigerchild3676
4 жыл бұрын
Its like what Charlie Brown said. You caught it as easy as pie. Then dropped it.
@paulzan2246
4 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for Weiss to hook up with Torchwick’s ghost!
@johannesseyfried7933
4 жыл бұрын
So THAT'S the Reason why they gave Tyrian a Necromancy Semblance!
@smugscylla4481
4 жыл бұрын
I can turn into a BIIIIIRD ruby
@daphnedrake6445
4 жыл бұрын
@@johannesseyfried7933 Damn thats his semblance! I always thought it was the unique ability to switch between a crazy faunus and Salem's lapdog.
@bentaplayz9100
3 жыл бұрын
Oh I get it, you want some REAL emotional investment? Did you know my SISTER and I were CURSED to be BIRDS?
@ElizabethZryd
3 жыл бұрын
DID YOU KNOW MY SISTER AND I WERE CURSED TO BE BIRDS?! WHY IS MY NAME SPELLED WITH A "Q"?!
@taco13ification
4 жыл бұрын
Bro as soon as she came back, I was thinking about you
@asuna5701
4 жыл бұрын
We all were
@MisteRRYouTuby
4 жыл бұрын
@@asuna5701 I didn't believe it at first either, but from that moment, I was worried about Vexed losing his mind.
@1Diddums
4 жыл бұрын
"Wholesome gay" - Blake, 2019.
@c.ccarlhead5744
4 жыл бұрын
I ship
@cristalwaffle4937
4 жыл бұрын
Same
@factfraud9437
4 жыл бұрын
Me: ... Vex: Have you heard of the Tragedy of Penny Polendina the Revived?
@legendarymarston9174
4 жыл бұрын
It's an Atlas legend...
@legendarymarston9174
4 жыл бұрын
@@Kushrada Is it possible to learn this freedom?
@legendarymarston9174
4 жыл бұрын
@@Kushrada I love this XD thank you
@Cryothia
4 жыл бұрын
Kushrada Legendary
@pisuter3564
4 жыл бұрын
This was AMAZING congratulations to you guys!
@Izetarion
4 жыл бұрын
Ten bucks says they'll use the Staff of Creation to revive Pyrrha by the end of the Atlas Arc, or use all of the relics to revive her at the end of the series.
@brandonframe1743
4 жыл бұрын
I really hope they don't. But, I'll keep my expectations really low if it does happen.
@NekoKujo6785
4 жыл бұрын
I'm clipping your comment. What you said is so fucking on point for their "writing". I'll be sure to tell everyone to pick up the phone because you might have just called it.
@ken7007
4 жыл бұрын
Lmao everyone just remembered this moment when it happens we will regroup here
@Izetarion
4 жыл бұрын
@@NekoKujo6785 The moments the relics were introduced and the names were revelaed, a lot of people made this EXACT prediction.
@eduardopantoja9115
4 жыл бұрын
I bet 40
@superprincessgem1
4 жыл бұрын
If they wanted penny to come back they should’ve rebuilt her with a different soul and not all her memories. It just downgrades her character so much
@billlupin8345
4 жыл бұрын
It doesn't, it's the same character it ever was, it's just some dumbasses failed to realize you can salvage a hard drive from a damaged machine. Yeah, it robs her death of some of its emotional weight, but that's emotional weight that those of us that aren't imbeciles never had to deal with.
@emeraldsky2823
4 жыл бұрын
loafhero For having a different opinion?? How dare
@NoNoDontTouchMeThere
4 жыл бұрын
@loafhero no it's an opinion your just a salty bitch that's a waste of life
@kaiserzer0468
4 жыл бұрын
R.I.P. the last remaining respect Vex had for Miles and Kerry.
@MisteRRYouTuby
4 жыл бұрын
...well, Pyrrha is still dead...then again...Red-Haired Woman...
@seanbruce8294
4 жыл бұрын
Kaiser Zer0 Assuming that there was any respect in the first place.
@Cryothia
4 жыл бұрын
He still had respect? Fooled me
@n0dash18
4 жыл бұрын
A bit late to mourn that, bud.
@nbanks9489
4 жыл бұрын
Penny's resurrection is just like the writers turning Bumblebey into something remotely romantic when it REALLY never was (lmao let's be real, Blacksun was supposed to become canon from the beginning and Team RWBY's relationship was supposed to be platonic/sisterly. I am DEFINITELY willing to bet that had not Monty died it would have, but let me not get started fr) At this point, the writing is just made to cater to the fanbase as Vexed said. Nothing matters anymore. Now we know if enough fans are for it, it'll happen. And none of us yet have any reason to believe anything different. If fans want it, they'll give it. Plot, story line nor character development doesn't matter anymore because it's all about money atp 🤷🏽♀️ Shit, next people are going to want Phyrra back and the writers are just going to show her fucking ghost and proceed to throw John's character development out the window. There's a reason that fans aren't responsible for writing shows, and this is why. I see a lot of the same fans who proposed that Penny be brought back even regret it now, but writers fail to realize that they were appointed as writers for a REASON. It's like a spoiled kid throwing a tantrum with it ending up as the parent always saying "Okay." And so the child keeps doing it, until they eventually end up a rotten ass human being, and the parent eventually feeling obligated to live up to what their child expects from them because it's been that way for so long.
@guilhermemarinho9861
4 жыл бұрын
How can people say this show has good writing? This scene of Penny coming back literally killed almost all that the show had left of decent writing. Now, Blake White Fang arc ended stupidly, Yang trauma arc ended in an insulting way, Ruby has very little interesting things going for her now, Weiss still has some potential in this Volume but I bet that after that it will all be over, Jaune, Ren, and Nora will be useless for now on, with some good moments for Jaune because he is voiced by one of the writers, Penny doesn't have a clear goal now, Cinder is going on yet ANOTHER vengeance quest, Mercury, Watts, Tyrian, and that huge guy whose name I don't care have nothing going on for them, Salem motives are still unclear, but that disaster of backstory killed the character for me, Emerald is only there to support Cinder and has no other compelling qualities AND we are going to have a team of new people, who I doubt will receive any kind of attention or good character moments. This show is a disaster, nothing will be able to fix so much damage.
@benjaminmcneil574
4 жыл бұрын
Companion Book says Salem wants the Four Maidens power, and to rule the world. ... Iffy on a book detailing her motivations and goals before the show did...
@TheBlazeAmy
4 жыл бұрын
"and that huge guy whose name I don't care" I think his name is Hazel. I don't remember much about him but I think that's his name lol.
@ryancarson6962
4 жыл бұрын
Benjamin McNeil Are you serious?! They put the main villain’s motivations IN. A. SUPPLEMENTARY. BOOK?! I can’t even with this show and it’s inept writers!
@evelynsteger436
4 жыл бұрын
It makes me pretty sad to see team JNR become swept aside because I always liked them slightly more than team RWBY. It also feels kind of insulting seeing as how Ren used to be voiced by Monty, now he’s voiced by his brother, yet they’re not doing much with him anymore :(
@amoil6537
4 жыл бұрын
The only upside to Miles and Kerry pandering to the fanbase would be to kill off Cinder this volume because NO ONE CARES.
@returnedtomonkey8886
4 жыл бұрын
Well they killed adam so it's a possibility.
@NekoKujo6785
4 жыл бұрын
@@returnedtomonkey8886 Just watch him come back....
@JackDManheim
4 жыл бұрын
@@NekoKujo6785 Yep. Pretty sure that's gonna be a thing.
@Deeps429
4 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is that with all this pandering M and K have done, you'd think they'd take the hint of actually writing a decent plot with decent stakes (they did with Vol 3....But hey fuck that now that it's all for naught.)
@LumeanTV
4 жыл бұрын
People keep throwing that word around... Pandering... I'm wondering if I'm the only one that doesn't think of it as pandering? Probably. Oh well.
@umwha
Жыл бұрын
Question : When Penny came back to life , why didnt she ever question why Pyrrhha randomly decided to kill her? Did the team ever actually find out that Pyrha only did that because she was under the illusion of Emerald
@magmaspacer1967
4 жыл бұрын
Honestly I was pretty disappointed that Penny returned the exact same. I was thinking they could make her less open and potentially more militaristic like Atlas is portrayed. This would either give Penny an arc to be more open, although not as much as the original, or would make Ruby have to accept the original is dead even after facing a constant reminder of her. But even though I was disappointed I didn't burn the show for it. It's kinda expected at this point that this show is supposed to be blind fun and won't have a super deep story. However, I would like to entertain the idea that they brought Penny back so that Watts could hack her. Even though Penny has a soul her body could still be controlled I suppose, and having Ruby kill her to protect her friends would most likely impact the character emotionally. Maybe she breaks for a while. This could also make Ruby actually have something against Watts personally, and conflict with the antagonists as well as more interactions would be nice. But that's just my two cents. I'm curious what others think on the matter and what could possibly be done with the decision to bring Penny back. As always good video Vex and I look forward to your episode reviews as well as other insight into Rwby. For me at least you always bring something fresh to the table.
@benjaminmcneil574
4 жыл бұрын
I keep seeing this. WHY exactly does everyone wanna see Ruby break? That's not gonna fix anything.
@magmaspacer1967
4 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminmcneil574 Because if she breaks and gets back up again after some struggle her resolve should be even stronger than before. Plus it would be something new and potentially interesting for the character.
@benjaminmcneil574
4 жыл бұрын
@@magmaspacer1967 I'd think failing to save Pyrrha and leaving her sister behind did that already. Ruby simply tries harder, every time.
@magmaspacer1967
4 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminmcneil574 Neither of those things brung her to a level as low as Yang was. But yeah the point would be to bounce back again and keep moving forward. Seeing the break would in my opinion be something interesting to see.
@benjaminmcneil574
4 жыл бұрын
@@magmaspacer1967 I'd honestly think Ruby would do whatever it takes to SAVE Penny. An example being, this anime Toaru Majutsu no Index, the title character was being controlled by the main villain of the arc-who had just kickstarted WW3-and was using her to cause mayhem as well as a distraction. The main hero went on to stop him, even with WW3 standing in his way. I'll like that kind of resolve from Ruby.
@Brontebabe
4 жыл бұрын
If Penny “dies” again this volume, I can honestly say I won’t feel a thing.
@DJPrimeAmvs
4 жыл бұрын
That...would be kinda...oof
@billlupin8345
4 жыл бұрын
It won't happen. Now that the rest of you dumbasses know she can come back, it robs her destruction of any kind of emotional meaning. ...HOW DID NOBODY SEE THIS COMING?!
@DJPrimeAmvs
4 жыл бұрын
@@billlupin8345 i was kinda fifty fifty on that concept actually
@RoderickEtheria
4 жыл бұрын
If her father dies as well, she's permanently dead. Her father doesn't seem well enough to bring her back again.
@JinxisHere758
Жыл бұрын
welp
@CuboidPixel
4 жыл бұрын
You described my reason as to why I will never be a RoosterTeeth First member so perfectly. That's shouldn't be a good thing, right?
@guilhermemarinho9861
4 жыл бұрын
A show with no stakes is like a human who does not breath, it fails to do the basics so it is as good as dead.
@benjaminmcneil574
4 жыл бұрын
Slice of Life shows?
@guilhermemarinho9861
4 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminmcneil574 If they are pure comedy, then they don't count. If they have drama, then they need stakes.
@benjaminmcneil574
4 жыл бұрын
@@guilhermemarinho9861 if it matches the setting?
@demetriusprime1505
4 жыл бұрын
10:06 Anyone else notice that JelloApocalypse at 4:41 of his video "So This is Basically RWBY" he put an image of RWBY Volume 7 with a figure that looks like Penny? Pretty sure some people already theorized Penny was coming back this Volume but he specifically says "I can't wait for Volume 7's equally well earned moment-" while the image was up... This just looked like serious foreshadowing to me and I am very sad.
@marksmanof117b
4 жыл бұрын
I knew that there was the possibility that they would bring her back. The issue was how. When you go the Ghost in the machine route, meaning that a machine is as alive as a person then that means when you kill them, they stay dead like a real person does. This is like you have a son who dies so you have another child to replace them and they come out as a perfect copy. Doesn't make sense and is a disservice to the character. Penny was also suppose to be the first and currently only android with a soul which is why her dead mattered so much. If they brought her back then it should have been as a shell of her former self. Maybe even as a failed attempt to recreate her. Have her act more stiff like a basic android with little quips from the old Penny as a shallow attempt to act more alive. It adds a greater sense of loss showing that Penny will never truly be back and shows how special of a person she really was to have her own soul as a machine. Instead they belittled all of that by going the route they are.
@taurusstudios5497
4 жыл бұрын
You know, RWBY Volume 7 has more writers this time around (4 I believe) still can't believe all 4 of them thought that bringing Penny back *WITH ALL OF HER MEMORIES* was a good idea
@maxargentum5001
4 жыл бұрын
I guess the only people emotionaly affected by volume 3 at this point are Team JNPR...JNR I guess
@Yankeesfan4ever100
4 жыл бұрын
Not so much Nora and Ren. Jaune seems to be the only one affected, but, as far as he knows, Cinder's dead and the statue scene from last volume was supposed to bring him closure. V3 should be irrelevant to everyone at this point.
@LumeanTV
4 жыл бұрын
Lookin' at what Jacques just tried to play on Weiss...MmmnotsosureaboutThat. Ouch.
@terozu5440
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah right up until _they fucking killed her again._ This time intentionally taking away her ability to be revived.
@KamenRider1
4 жыл бұрын
To be honest: Penny was my favorite character when RWBY was at it's infancy. Along with her (former) fellow deceased, Pyrrha Nikos. When they killed her off I felt as if she was set free. That she would be spared of the disaster EWBY has become. Then *THIS* happens and my heart sank. I had a feeling they'd do this but I was hoping they wouldn't. There are rumors they're planning to bring Pyrrha back... Athena save me from myself when they do because I will probably surpass Achilles's unfathomable rage throughout the entirety of the Iliad when they do that.
@Dave102693
4 жыл бұрын
That better not happen
@thetruestar6348
4 жыл бұрын
They just THREW ANY MAJOR CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT Ruby had from Penny's death for fan service
@benjaminmcneil574
4 жыл бұрын
@@thetruestar6348 Why is the specific word 'fanservice' being used? I don't see much boobs so far in the season...
@thetruestar6348
4 жыл бұрын
@@benjaminmcneil574 FAN SERVICE for the character that is died coming back since she is a favorite charater of the fandom Different types of fan service exist
@knightfall0153
4 жыл бұрын
Imagine if the outrage if they brought back Adam.
@marqusmedina5983
4 жыл бұрын
Knightfall 01 that would actually improve the story so they’ll clearly never do that.
@MisteRRYouTuby
4 жыл бұрын
...oh they'll bring him back, but being subservient to Blake and saying this was how Adam was 'MEANT' to be...God, I feel sick just thinking about it.
@edgarmorales9950
4 жыл бұрын
@@marqusmedina5983 Disagree. This is coming from someone that hated how they handled Adam throughout the show up until his end, resurrecting Adam would be dumb no matter what. It would feel as fanservicey as Bumblebee and Neo returning only worse. They reaped what they sow. No use beating a dead horse or in this case, a dead bull.
@dycedargselderbrother5353
4 жыл бұрын
I have to agree that Monkey's Paw zombie Adam would single handedly turn this property around.
@NekoKujo6785
4 жыл бұрын
@@edgarmorales9950 *Yellowjacket. Sorry, didn't mean to correct you, but it's not Bumblebee
@amylikesboba3267
4 жыл бұрын
Well if the writers keep pulling this “fan favorite come back” I won’t be surprised if Pyrrha comes back
@MisteRRYouTuby
4 жыл бұрын
...well...The Staff of Creation...and Jaune being Jaune...
@dycedargselderbrother5353
4 жыл бұрын
"A piece of Pyrrha touched the maiden and not all of the essence made it into Cinder. With the Staff of Creation--which oh yeah is Penny's power core--Pyrrha's essence imbued into Jaune's shield, and Jaune believing in the heart of the cards, we can bring Pyrrha back good as new...at the cost of Penny. DUN DUN DUN DRAMA"
@Darkrayquazax
4 жыл бұрын
I would be fine with that as I think they could have done way more with her but then in my opinion they shouldn't have killed her in the first place. Cus now this story won't please anyone. What a dumpster fire
@MisteRRYouTuby
4 жыл бұрын
@@Darkrayquazax Welcome to Maya RWBY.
@Darkrayquazax
4 жыл бұрын
@@MisteRRYouTuby Maya? Can you explain?
@evilminionnumber2
4 жыл бұрын
This also makes this the second "dead" character to come back. Now death is meaningless because we know the writers can and will pull something out of their ass to bring them back.
@opticallion1674
4 жыл бұрын
Watching RWBY just to see how bad it can get
@NekoKujo6785
4 жыл бұрын
I stopped caring about the story. I just wanna watch extremely fuckable anime girls kill each other, but death has proven not mean anything in the universe, so....
@TheErolind
4 жыл бұрын
Ruby becomes a planet buster and people will get revived when they die thanks to the relic of resurrection
@DarkCircles698
4 жыл бұрын
I still watch it for reference
@SeaweedAK
4 жыл бұрын
me rn
@SeaweedAK
4 жыл бұрын
@@DarkCircles698 a reference of not to
@stabbingfate1987
4 жыл бұрын
so far the new season of RWBY has felt like an overly clichéd and poorly scripted anime, every other line send me into a spasm of cringe
@alephkasai9384
4 жыл бұрын
Did not see volume 7 but that clip of "Salutations!" hurt my soul
@Abyss3223
4 жыл бұрын
You sure its not the added anime sound effects?
@mindecon8084
4 жыл бұрын
@@Abyss3223 those are cartoon sounds effects
@NecroCh
4 жыл бұрын
So... Like always
@rowiequierez5920
4 жыл бұрын
No surprise there my friend 😑 Stopped watching at the first half of Vol. 6. I didn't give two shits about the show anymore.
@xxhaxonxx8345
4 жыл бұрын
People is like "Resurrect someone without memories, so cliche" Yeah, and I guess resurrect someone with his memories is so original, is not like anyone has done that before, right?
@JinSeiryuu
4 жыл бұрын
Waited literally forever for this Edit: Vex I'll just say it like this in real life if penny was your best friend to the point you considered her like family you would be honest to God happy that she came back to life but in sense of story telling it does take away the impact of the moment it was set up to be so I had mix when penny came back and so did the fandom on one side i was a bit happy and the other was "What was the point of that scene if you were just going to bring her back?"
@angel0island0ninja
4 жыл бұрын
You should watch Pet Semetary lol. The dead need to stay dead. I believe in heaven and would hate to get pulled from that because of someone's selfish wish (Like Ospin was by Salem...)
@dycedargselderbrother5353
4 жыл бұрын
That's the thing, though, no one was really happy or even surprised. They were bored and eventually exasperated. It's like Penny went out for pizza and came back five minutes late.
@baconinthesoap5418
4 жыл бұрын
NO MA'AM exactly It feels like Miles and Kary don’t care about the characters, Penny being alive should impact RWBY instead of the people watching
@JinSeiryuu
4 жыл бұрын
@@baconinthesoap5418 I mean it does to some a point
@baconinthesoap5418
4 жыл бұрын
MICHAEL SMITH not when they all brush it off after. Ruby grieved the most, and there needs to be “Penny I-I wish I could have stop- I wish I knew better be-be befo” *tears roll down* Instead of:sounds like penny to me
@karially3820
4 жыл бұрын
Cain wait they revive Pyrrah with a mumbo jumbo
@adrianramirez6395
4 жыл бұрын
Might be the creation relic.
@karially3820
4 жыл бұрын
@@adrianramirez6395 Please no lol
@wolfeshine4409
4 жыл бұрын
I fully expect this to happen to - "give Jaune 'character development' - plus the 'writers' can't write worth a shit so why not? right now im just sticking with the show to see how bad it can go - can it beat Game of Thrones Season 8? let's see.
@mastervidxad5883
4 жыл бұрын
RWBY was going so downhill that the writers had to resort to bringing back the Original Penny. You know what Miles and Kerry, since there's no investment or stakes to your show, you might as well bring back everyone who died. Ren's parents? Revive them. Pyrrha? Go ahead and grimify her. Roman? Give him a semblance to escape death. Monty...wait, he's gone forever. 😭 Moral of the story is, RWBY's story is screwed up beyond repair. If only some rich individual out there purchased RWBY and hired competent writers(CoughVexCough)/animators to helm the series going forward.
@returnedtomonkey8886
4 жыл бұрын
If i were rich i would do it. But i would like to make my own version of it.
@dycedargselderbrother5353
4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a job for the dragon balls. Speaking of which, how the hell does a show in which practically every character gets resurrected multiple times have greater stakes than this thing?
@benjaminmcneil574
4 жыл бұрын
@@dycedargselderbrother5353 Because the characters in the Dragon Ball verse don't brush off death as if it never happened, even if it can be undone. Dragon Ball Super: Krillin is *STILL* traumatized by an ILLUSION of Tambourine from og Dragon Ball, his first killer, despite being magnitudes stronger than him by then.
@HxH2011DRA
4 жыл бұрын
>that Monty point BIG ASS OOF
@c.ccarlhead5744
4 жыл бұрын
You had me up until the Monty comment. Other than that I agree with you. As much as a disagree with how a lot of Monty's writing was changed no one deserves to use someone's death as an insult. Fuck that. Stick to the criticism.
@phomolomokete3756
4 жыл бұрын
8:35 Pyrrha died thinking she killed someone. Now let that sink in... That is deep when you think about it. A nice girl like Pyrrha dies thinking she has killed Penny, only for Penny to return and every one is like ... eh... I mean that is deep.
@reddragonminecraftmodsandm4366
3 жыл бұрын
When Luke said “no one’s ever really gone” Rooster Teeth took that to heart, as a storytelling device
@asuna5701
4 жыл бұрын
I guess the writers were being “stupid for the sake of the fans” huh Vex?
@marqusmedina5983
4 жыл бұрын
Kitsuna Asuna Clever way of putting it.
@asuna5701
4 жыл бұрын
Marqus Medina thanks! 😄
@MisteRRYouTuby
4 жыл бұрын
Ha! Killed it.
@averageanimefan519
4 жыл бұрын
I mean the same thing happened with the Pyrrha statue. The last time anyone saw Pyrrha, was when she murdered Penny on TV and yet she's honored as a hero in Argus.
@ryancarson6962
4 жыл бұрын
AverageAnimeFan And the girl who was kinda a celebrity who only appeared on cereal boxes and didn’t even graduate is important enough to make a statue of? Roy Stallion didn’t get any statues, and if you don’t know who that is you just proved my point, the students who died wouldn’t get statues, she wasn’t the only one who risked their lives to try to help, but she gets special treatment why? Because she’s a main character and thus the whole world revolves around her and lives to serve her whim.
@GaiaFGC
Жыл бұрын
Prediction: We're unironically going to see Torchwick's Ghost in Volume 9
@rishi5297
Жыл бұрын
Maybe we can see Adam's ghost bc bumbleby lol TBH if they try to redemption he this way, I gonna lose my mind.
@mmg6379
10 ай бұрын
It actually happened LMAOO
@kumbi8368
4 жыл бұрын
We’re here boys. We’re here.
@OneDude7745
4 жыл бұрын
"Pyrrha died thinking she killed someone!" Me: 😢😢😢
@RedDusk369
4 жыл бұрын
RWBY characters: I just hope my death makes more sense than my life Murray Franklin: You can say that again
@demetriusprime1505
4 жыл бұрын
AW You pulled a Joke...!
@Zarola
4 жыл бұрын
I don't know but the original, "I just hope my death makes more cents than my life" is still appropriate for this fandom's characters.
@Salemwaaa
4 жыл бұрын
I love Penny to death and I was honestly very happy she had her memories back but a part of me still wanted her to be without her memories of her beloved Ruby, she should’ve been cold towards everyone except her father, treating them like strangers and with the personality of a machine built to follow orders like Danzo Shimura’s ROOT ninja. But she could slowly regain her memories if she spent time with everyone and start to open up bit by bit to Ruby and everyone else, then become the Penny we knew and loved again. I know this doesn’t make any type of sense and I’m just overthinking but this what I have been thinking deep down.
@vickidarude6344
4 жыл бұрын
When Penny came back I thought she'd pull a Connor and be like "Unfortunately my predecessor was destroyed, along with some of her memories.."
@Randomturtle001
3 жыл бұрын
This aged like fine wine.
@CNWhatImSaiyan
3 жыл бұрын
5:58 “Twice!”
@riotkitty
4 жыл бұрын
Literally all the comments I saw in relation to Penny’s return where “When’s Vexed gonna make a video about this?” And here we are. Honestly what I wish would’ve happened was the Atlas council hijacking the Penny Program from Dr. G so that something like the Fall of Beacon would never happen again. She wouldn’t act like the Penny in Vol. 3, bright, free spirited, an odd obsession with making friends. Penny 2.0 would be a militaristic solider, completely devoid of any traits that would resemble the original. Ruby could try to go up to her in disbelief, but Penny would hold her back, saying that civilians must stay back & evacuate the area because a Grimm horde is coming, indicating Penny doesn’t remember Ruby. The 7 kids could be really confused as the robots drag them away to another area. And as coincidence could have it, they run into Dr. G. They learn that the council and Dr. G had butted heads in the past on what was best for the Penny Program, whether she needed to be Atlas military property or someone who could relate to humans. Now Penny does not even recognize the man she called “Father” because they took Penny away from Dr. G. It could be a hard hitting moment as this old man lost his life’s work and his daughter all in one fell swoop without even so much as a say in the matter. That’s called emotional impact!
@JC_Stone
3 жыл бұрын
This aged... Well? I think?
@haruokumura4271
3 жыл бұрын
9D chess
@twinodoom
4 жыл бұрын
The reason I believed Penny should have died was because it made sense to kill her off permanently in the moment, because that would be the most tragic death in the show of all the main characters at that point. She could be replaced with a new version of herself if she died. This was just the laziest possible way they could bring back Penny, and she barely even does anything in the first 3 episodes so far.
@benjaminmcneil574
4 жыл бұрын
Really? Compared to Pyrrha being shot in the chest, barely breathing, gasping for breath, and then being turned to ashes? I'm pretty sure one of these hurt the FNDM'S soul more than the other, and it wasn't Penny.
@twinodoom
4 жыл бұрын
Benjamin McNeil Pyrrha chose to fight Cinder knowing she would probably die, and why. Penny thought she was having a friendly competition, only to become the casualty of a war she didn't even know about.
@pluubooruu
3 жыл бұрын
WELP today....
@brandonframe1743
4 жыл бұрын
You think Qrow should be killed off in this volume? He's already been mega-nerfed since volume 5 and got a new voice actor. Plus he hasn't really made the kids do any training with him to get better at fighting. I notice that they are allot worse since they left Beacon
@benjaminmcneil574
4 жыл бұрын
EVERYONE is a lot worse. So I doubt it would be very noticeable.
@VideoGameLova1
4 жыл бұрын
Considering they went through the trouble of also giving him a new outfit, I doubt he's going to be killed off anytime soon. Not to mention that new voice actor or not, he remains one of the series' biggest fan favourites.
@ken7007
4 жыл бұрын
They gonna make him gay some how
@HxH2011DRA
4 жыл бұрын
@@ken7007 that doesn't even make sense, hence I believe it
@Brontebabe
4 жыл бұрын
They don’t to kill him off per say but imo Qrow, Jaune, Nora, and Ren really bring nothing to the story and need to go.
@rocknroller4186
4 жыл бұрын
Like damn at the very least they could've made it so that new penny doesn't have old penny's memories. New Penny: *appears* Ruby: Penny? New Penny: Um do i know you? Ruby: *crushed* But noooo apparently that's asking for too much.
@marqusmedina5983
4 жыл бұрын
rocknroller 418 or maybe her emotions got dulled or something
@h2okitty478
4 жыл бұрын
They could have brought her back without remembering who ruby was and penny couldve been built much harsher since atlas is blamed for the fall of Beacon, who wait they forgot about why atlas closed its borders, penny shouldve come back as the defence of atlas with no memory of ruby or what happened to her and be much more harsher and make ruby feel kinda pissed but also sad that her friend penny is not the penny she used to know
@c.ccarlhead5744
4 жыл бұрын
Omg this would've added to the tense atmosphere of Atlas. And it would've further developed Ruby as she tries hard to lighten people up and bring optimism. But how does one even expect to make a robot programmed to be extremely cautious happy and optimistic? Considering she has a soul Ruby could very well possibly have a chance but it'd take a lot of work and development as they reconstruct their friendship. Its an interesting concept and matches well with the theme they are going for this season of not losing hope
@maxwelladams7173
4 жыл бұрын
People keep saying that Penney can be brought back because she was a robot, despite the fact that the show went out of its way in order to show us how emotionally distraught the characters were over her death. Meaning that that argument serves only as an argument from convenience. The problem is that Fiction you can do literally anything regardless of how convenient or inconvenient it is. Meaning that the steaks will be damaged regardless of how a character was resurrected.
@RoderickEtheria
4 жыл бұрын
Remember they didn't know, just like we didn't know, whether she could be brought back. They knew her core was in a Grim infested area, which lowered the chances, but it was still possible. Now, they have set her death parameters, so something will happen to her father to make sure that there's an equal chance she dies as any other character.
@SonicBadass
4 жыл бұрын
@@RoderickEtheria No one would give an crap by then.
@Fungulus1
4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think the writers have reached the end of Monty's original story line and have been pandering to fans way too much. If you wanted to bring Penny back there were so many better ways to do it without killing the "stakes" they made in earlier seasons. Instead of: Oh look she has an upgraded look but is still the same old Penny. Not even a slight shift in personality to something more mature. Would have preferred it if she was an overhauled and upgraded version made from Penny's original body but a completely different personality maybe something more cold and robotic (this would help keep most the tragic impact of her death.) She can keep the memories as it really wouldn't make since for her to lose data that would have likely been backed up. The memories would be just that useful combat data to improve her performance.
@KaiserShounen
4 жыл бұрын
6:04 When RT be like "Imma bout to end this mans whole career."
@emmittnervend2918
4 жыл бұрын
This is the equivalent of the dragon balls from Dragon Ball franchise. But at least the show owns it the characters grieve and get angry from the loss. Then remember oh yeah we can just wish them back. Hell I take it back Toriyama knows to keep characters dead who's deaths played a pivotal role to the story or a characters development examples Grandpa Gohan, Android 16, Future Gohan, and Future Bulma.
@benjaminmcneil574
4 жыл бұрын
Future Bulma's case was just a harsh kick in the dick. It sucks to be Future Trunks.
@Denizozzzy003
4 жыл бұрын
" Weiss got penetrated. " Vex 2019 Lol memeing aside. XD Sea my theoreis where, 1. They put an AI personality of Penny in the model. 2. Put another soul in the Penny model. Butt I do agree, her death is lessened from this...
@theultimateusukfan
4 жыл бұрын
you're right. i didnt think of it that way. pyrrha died thinking she killed someone. pyrrha died for nothing since penny's death meant nothing and it was pennys death that led pyrrha to cinder in the first place. penny shouldnt remember anyone or anything since her SOUL (the thing making her unique and a special android IN THE FIRST PLACE) is GONE. there is NO WAY you can convince me those atlas scientists somehow were able to "save" penny's soul from those broken robot pieces. HOW. DOES. PENNY. REMEMBER. IF. HER. SOUL. IS. GONE???? it WOULD be better if penny didnt remember anyone or anything and acted more serious to counteract how the original penny was to prevent another mistake!
@render4270
3 жыл бұрын
Jaune's got your back buddy
@Ari-6
4 жыл бұрын
But Vexed, _No one's ever really gone_ Not as long as we need to quickly click bait viewer interest.
@fre4k214
4 жыл бұрын
Well we did learn that Gods can bring dead people back to life, so maybe by the end of series the writers will say fuck it and bring everyone back for "Happy ending"
@giancarlobarbieri7685
4 жыл бұрын
Not even Roman’s death means anything importan to the show any more. His death was a lesson about the Grimm, the way he died could happen any moment again, that the Grimm are still dangerous and they are not a Joke Now they are a bad joke, or when was the last time when you saw a Grimm attacking a main character? The last good Grimm the show had was the Apathy, but since that none of the other grimms the show have can feel like a real threat. The Grimm dragon? Defeated in 2 episode The Grimm horse? Didn’t hurt any of team RNJR or Qrow The sea dragon Grimm? Died in the same episode he was introduced The Godzilla Grimm? Didn’t kill anyone on the town How are we suppose to take Grimm and Roman’s death serious if since Volumen 3 no one has been hurt to death or died for Grimm?
@93ImagineBreaker
4 жыл бұрын
his death was purely plot armor for ruby before and after grimm are a joke only time other than roman someone died to a grimm was leo who was a joke and ordered
@loiiysailor1177
4 жыл бұрын
The Grimm are just punching bags for the HeRoS so they can looked cool I want them try to fight hollows and titans and see what happens
@93ImagineBreaker
4 жыл бұрын
@@loiiysailor1177 at the most they can only beat fodder hollows and hope their plot armor stays
@thgritic102
4 жыл бұрын
@@loiiysailor1177 I wished they brought back those Apathy Grimm. Now those I feel like a true threat to to the MCs and everyone only IF Ruby has a consequence for using her eyes too much (like blindness). Still tick Maria lost her eyes like that as a lesson for Ruby, but nope, she lost them during a fight.
@leonardobianucci6218
3 жыл бұрын
Can i remind people that all the reason for kill people was to make bad emotions bring grimms into beacon but why? Salem can command them so it was just messing around if you think it. Well... We know what happen. She wasnt written before volume 4
@Gianpor
4 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sad about this, as much as I love to see more of Penny, cuz I love her to bits, sadly they really dropped the ball with this one, everything her death unchained is pretty much meaningless. What a said day
@SwitchbackCh
4 жыл бұрын
"Did you ever hear the tragedy of Pennybot the Adorable? " "I thought not. It's not a story Atlas would tell you. It's a spoiler question."
@sirconstantine8329
4 жыл бұрын
"Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Polendinus the Wise?"
@SpammytheHedgehog
4 жыл бұрын
If Penny had a soul, why didn't she bleed oil?
@beesbutinabox1105
4 жыл бұрын
then america would of destroyed beacon instead
@xxhaxonxx8345
4 жыл бұрын
Thats not how souls work... but honestly nobody knows how souls work in RWBY
@MisteRRYouTuby
4 жыл бұрын
Atlas tech doesn't require oil; either that or the need for it.
@SeaweedAK
4 жыл бұрын
if she bleed oil, it means she need freedom
@Vice_Verse0
4 жыл бұрын
The more I look at it, the more I realized how far this show has come from being what it was originally supposed to be. Cool action good guys vs cool action bad guy characters. It was never supposed to be "Game Of Thrones".. lol.
@esteban8471
4 жыл бұрын
Remember when Volume 3 made us think that the stakes could only get higher? That the villains would be more threatening and terrifying? That every decision mattered in the grand scheme of things? Me neither.
@Kr8zySteve
4 жыл бұрын
I can’t wait for them to use some crazy atlas tech to revive Pyrrha. Or even better. Salem will revive Pyrrha as some crazy Grimm clone monster and then jaune and friends will use the power of love and friendship to snap her out of it and bring her back the the lovable girl we all know and love and she will be exactly the same as if nothing happened.
@ninasimpson6639
3 жыл бұрын
I hate how relevant this is now
@camsmith3123
4 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe ruined penny by bringing her back! The next you know they’ll make her a maiden! Watches chapter 13 I WAS KIDDING!!’
@HxH2011DRA
4 жыл бұрын
This show is so dropped
@brandonframe1743
4 жыл бұрын
RWBY or his channel?
@HxH2011DRA
4 жыл бұрын
@@brandonframe1743 rwby of course
@SoldierSpiderx
4 жыл бұрын
ever since Monty Oum died the writes just don't know what they doing it going downhill
@SpammytheHedgehog
4 жыл бұрын
Penny is alive and Pyrrha is not. That's what matters.
@MisteRRYouTuby
4 жыл бұрын
...are you sure about that???
@Yankeesfan4ever100
4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I feel cheated. It's like saying, "Yeah, we'll keep this character dead, but not this one. This one, everyone wanted back!" I'm willing to admit to being biased because Pyrrha was my favorite character, and still is, but it honestly feels unfair. It's times like this that make me wonder why this show needed to be serious. Weren't we all having fun with the first 2 volumes?
@athqna8625
4 жыл бұрын
@@Yankeesfan4ever100 if youre that bitter about it you can just watch RWBY Chibi
@t.b.cont.
4 жыл бұрын
Have you heard of the tragedy of Pietro Poledina the wise? I thought not, it’s not a story the critics would tell you. It’s an RT legend. Pietro Poledina was a scientist so powerful he could influence Aura to create life. He had such knowledge on robotics that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying, further proving that Ironwood was indeed correct on his assessment that a robotic army was the way of the future. Haha syke! You all thought it was a starwars copypasta but it was I, common sense! Penny’s death having no repercussions justifies Ironwood’s beliefs!
@SonicBadass
4 жыл бұрын
Jaune.
@WickedWestCreations
4 жыл бұрын
So i watched the new episodes BEFORE your livestream where you talked about what you'd like and not like to see in this volume. When you said "Penny has no business being in this volume" I laughed SO HARD. like "Man i cant wait for Vex to see the episode." I dont even watch RWBY for the characters anymore, I watch it and wait for things I know youre gonna talk about lmaooo RWBY in its entirety is a tragedy lets be honest. We all hate that we love this show
@XC11301991
4 жыл бұрын
Watch she's going to get hacked again.
@thetruestar6348
4 жыл бұрын
Basically
@SeaweedAK
4 жыл бұрын
i hope so
@Salemwaaa
4 жыл бұрын
I don’t want that to happen but I know it might happen
@LumeanTV
4 жыл бұрын
'Again'..? When was the first time.
@grizzly9566
4 жыл бұрын
To be honest, Penny was one of my favourite characters so when she died, it was horrible. When she came back, I was so happy and I expected everyone else to be as well. But there was no actual reaction to her. It was just like she came back and no one really cared much. There should have been consequences, some kind of amnesia or glitching. It would have made her return have some impact. Like they all come up to hug her and the simple words of ‘Who are you?’ Could have been so sad to hear but there was just nothing but a short reunion.
@quddushashim6638
4 жыл бұрын
Did you ever hear the Tragedy of Penny Polendina The dead? I thought not. It's not a story that a good writer would tell. It's a RWBY's canon. Penny Polendina was a fan favorite character that dies in Volume 3. Her death has kickstarted the event that lead to the fall of Beacon and make Volume 3 the memorable volume for most fans of the series. Some argue that she can be rebuild because she a robot. However, the show portray it as a tragedy that can't be undo and to most fan, she has a soul that left her metallic shell. This leave a scar in most fans heart. Unfortunately, she return in volume 7 as if there nothing happened. Does the scar that the fans have mean nothing? does the writer want to play with the Fan emotion? or is this a cruel joke that RWBY find funny? My poor man version of Darth Plagueis the Wise tragedy.
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