I never thought about it like that it almost feels like they're making up the story as they go without actually fully thinking everything through
@Keith_Norman
Жыл бұрын
It took you this long to figure it out 🤣🤣
@leon1thelion580
Жыл бұрын
@@Keith_Norman I don't really take ruby seriously I view it more as a children show and I don't think about it deeply. As a matter of fact I think I stopped watching it around season 5 or 6 and I've only been watching peoples reviews
@Keith_Norman
Жыл бұрын
@@leon1thelion580 I'm hoping that volume 9 makes it better and to call Rwby a kid shows is kind of insulting........ too kid shows who have better writing that actually deserve my time ex ben 10, Randy cunningham, danny phantom, owl house, amphibia, moon girl and devil dinosaur, tmnt, power rangers I mean the list goes on of kid shows who have better writing better characters and actually better plots
@leon1thelion580
Жыл бұрын
@@Keith_Norman To be honest I don't understand why people didn't think of ruby as a kid's show
@Keith_Norman
Жыл бұрын
@@leon1thelion580 because the creators said it wasn't
@LegatusLucius1994
Жыл бұрын
There's a fanfiction that says Raven went with Summer to try to kill Salem after finally finding out from Oz only to realize that no matter what they did they couldn't kill her and after a few minutes of trying
@noctisastrum7495
Жыл бұрын
I really like the concept of the maidens, but the end result is pretty meh to me mainly because a couple of reasons like why do keep distinguishing them through seasons if they are literally the same.The maiden power transversal kinda reminds me of the lantern Corps from DC comics like when the original wearer of the ring dies, the lantern's ring goes off to find whoever is worthy, except the maiden are conceptually weaker by theme and purpose. Each lantern represents something, Red (rage), Orange (greed), Black (death), White (life), Indigo (compassion), Blue (hope), Violet (love), Yellow (fear), and green (will power). Which speaks for the character and what their personalities are like, but for the maidens, the only thing that matters is what gender and age you are. It would have been more interesting if each maiden personality were to be correspondent to their season they're supposedly based around.
@SaiyanGamer95
Жыл бұрын
I've seen one person point out that the Maidens don't have anything separating them from one another. Like, the First Maidens seem to have powers over specific elements (Summer controls fire and Winter controls ice), but in the show proper, they're all largely the same with the same abilities. And the only thing actually separating them is which Vault they can open. I think the powers could work like the Lanterns; when a Maiden dies, the powers go to the last person in their thoughts, but two requirements have to be met. The person is female and they have to have a particular trait. Like, say, the Winter Maiden can only be passed down to women with a strong sense of duty. Or the Spring Maiden can only be passed down to women who are immensely kind or curious. If the last person in the current Maiden's thoughts don't fit the requirement, then the holder becomes random, so long as they fit the reequipments of being a woman and having a specific trait.
@VilyDolphin
Жыл бұрын
I personally find the headcanon that the only know requirement is to be a female. From a writer standpoint the characters not having any clues who the next maiden will be is besides from the previous maiden is an interesting concept. What I would do would be to keep it similar to devil fruit rules in that one person can only have 1 maiden power (except Cinder via Grimm beetle), have the powers slowly integrate into the current user’s semblance (aka, Cinder would eventually only be able to use fire based magic at an extreme level, Raven could use any magic attack be able to create portals, and Winter’s summons could become elemental)
@Keith_Norman
Жыл бұрын
@@SaiyanGamer95idea sounds one hundred percent better than what's happening right especially with the part about the main power because wow you controlling the elements is so cool it's not like we have people out here that can copy powers, turn objects into gold or you know glyphs. Avatar it made sense
@kidprime6863
7 ай бұрын
Personally, I view the powers as equivalent to a Red Lantern power ring as you're basically bound to the Maiden powers unless you die. You can't remove or revoke it.
@dl3209
5 ай бұрын
@@Keith_Normani kinda think rhe maiden powers should be allowed for anyone personally because it just seems kind of s_xist for it to be only for women who are kind hearted. This reminds of what sega did with the super forms canon on the chaos emeralds where now only the male hedgehogs are able to access thoses powers which is ridiculous because i actually like hyper knuckles and burning blaze
@YesNani
Ай бұрын
I always assumed Raven found out that Salem was immortal because they fought and in that fight Salem killed Summer.
@timothygooding9544
10 ай бұрын
a cool reason for the maidens could've been an attempt to have them reincarnate like Oz. And while Oz chooses to have his own consciousness eventually override the original body, the maidens chose to let their own consiousness fade away so the new host's life could still be their own. While passing on their abilitys and experience as a gift. The whole grey moral dilema with Oz's reincarnation couldve gotten a great foil, and it was one of the biggest subplots I stayed invested in with RWBY's story. It would also explain the insecurity, they werent meant to be free, but the compassion of the original children changed that.
@LegatusLucius1994
Жыл бұрын
The shows already stated that nobody really knows the full extent of their abilities Ruby didn't even know she can do specific things with her semblance
@SailorRemnant
Жыл бұрын
One of the writers or VAs in a reddit thread said that the age limit for inheriting the maiden power is about 30, so Salem has no chance of getting them herself. What I don't get is why Salem and Cinder both seem so sure that Cinder's body will be able to hold each maiden's power at once when in volume 3 it was stated that there always has to be 4 of them? Shouldn't that mean that with Cinder already being the fall maiden, she can't steal any other powers even with Salem's little parasite? Or is there some workaround Salem discovered with past maidens that makes her sure that one person can hold the powers of more than one maiden?
@grine0012
5 ай бұрын
i mean each maiden power is a fraction of ozma original magic, so maybe its possible it possible to have multiples cause their only a part of one
@yandereneko5523
Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I have seen great connections with the Sirens from Borderlands. Small number of magic powered women that can open vaults that contain some valuable artifact. Powers transfer on death.
@kidprime6863
6 ай бұрын
Interesting, I never noticed that. Although, I assume both of their powers are susceptible to falling into the wrong hands. The whole "Power Transfer Upon Death" thing is a complete double-edge sword because it means if someone kills you, it will go to people, regardless if they're good or evil. You can't transfer it to someone else without it killing you, even if you don't want it anymore. You're bound to it like a Red Lantern power ring. But unlike the Maidens, males can take and use the Siren powers.
@LegatusLucius1994
Жыл бұрын
The maidens have magic which is why they're able to use Elemental attacks instinctively that was like Mages for the simple fact as they do not know how they have magic so they can cast spells but they don't know how to cast spells Salem does cast spells because she knows how
@LegatusLucius1994
Жыл бұрын
Salem using her own magic to influence the Grim creating new stuff
@MadMichigander1313
Жыл бұрын
Raven was with Summer on her first mission to destroy Salem.
@jang-xo6ye
Ай бұрын
I would like to point out that Dark said Magic was his gift so magic and grimm interacting makes total sense
@LegatusLucius1994
Жыл бұрын
Salem got board and capture them experimented on Summer used her new creation to go after Raven after escaping and Raven was forced to kill summer obviously traumatizing f*** out of her and that was a fanfiction best interpretation of what could have happened I've ever heard
@kingraplhmativo5178
Жыл бұрын
Bruh Glynda's semblance can surpass Maiden powers.
@magentamagenta4949
Жыл бұрын
maidenless
@knowbulgaming
Жыл бұрын
RIP Penny
@LegatusLucius1994
Жыл бұрын
OZ has Magic just like all humans because it was a gift from the gods but he was a warrior Salem was a mage first and foremost her magic was always better even before the Grim pool
@LegatusLucius1994
Жыл бұрын
Know a person's Aura can be taken probably without feelings this doesn't specifically have anything to do with the Maiden powers
@AllOtakuProductions
Жыл бұрын
SPOILER: The reason Raven knew Salem is immortal is because she was with Summer Rose when they both confronted her in a flashback on Volume 9!
@kidprime6863
6 ай бұрын
And that was the reason why Raven abandoned her husband Taiyang and daughter Yang in the first place. She believed Salem was unstoppable and the fight against was pointless. However, Raven discovered Salem was immortal long before Summer's final mission.
@elusivo3347
6 ай бұрын
Something I would’ve done to at least bolster and enhance the Maidens thematically and practically is not giving them all the same abilities and elemental magic despite being representing a specific season. Summer Maidens should be limited to fire, heat and even lightning, Winter with ice and snow, Spring plants, flowers; and lastly, Fall can just centre around air and wind. While this is a very simple fix, I would go as far as giving them unique powers along with their elements; Summer could have super speed, Winter with the ability to induce sleep, Spring Maidens could have the unique power to heal sicknesses, wounds and infections; and Fall Maidens can fly.
@suadmaluc8971
Жыл бұрын
one thing i dont like about the maiden powers is the eye fire its so flimsy and one maiden doesnt have one specific color tbf cinder here is an exception almost always hers and ambers eye fire has been orange which makes sense as shes the fall maiden but then you have penny being green winter being blue and raven being blue too its so dumb if its character specific like penny then why not give raven red fire and make her use red ice to make her stand out currently there is no difference beetween raven and winter which is dumb because they are two different maiden powers but they seem exactly the same.
@kirino2-084
Жыл бұрын
the flames in the eyes are the color of the maiden's aura, orange for cinder, green for penny, blue for fria, light blue for winter, and red for raven
@MJ2BHAD
Жыл бұрын
I am digging deeper into the madiens-...Because i think there cool lol
@potatocancer1125
Жыл бұрын
Bro very nice but I can’t help but feel like your voice reminds me of another KZitemr I saw years ago but can’t remember
@mauriceisaac3646
Жыл бұрын
Misanthro Pony?
@misfitwhocares7554
7 ай бұрын
I thought about the maidens like they are like the Avatar in ATLA just...very very very poor executed
@Autiscat
Жыл бұрын
i'm not sure if the glyph thing would work? maybe it would, but we've seen glyphs be pierced before; see the start of ironwood vs winter.
@ShizuruRavenRobin026
Жыл бұрын
Okay first let me get my theory out of the way as to how the maiden Powers working 0z gave them to the women First his four daughters have nothing to do really do with the maidens I think the four girls from the story about the four maidens reminded us of his daughters and due to how they treated him up like possibly his daughters used to he gave parts of his power to them hoping And then at the time when he bring incarnated and became the king of he decided that it would be best to make the maidens into keys to the vaults so they can guard them at each kingdom since he couldn't be at But what he messed up and doing is is that his evil ex-lover / wife is also female and she could end up And I know a lot of people have questioned this in the past as to why ozpin didn't kill cinder back in volume 3 since he had that kinetic energy in the cane and I think people fail to realize if he had killed her the power would have ended up either going to emerald ore to Salem so either way the maiden Powers would have been on Salem side or worst of all in Salem's hand and right now because Salem technically still does have the fall maiden under her control kind of Salem's looking for that last relic at beacon harder than any other I mean the other relics she knows where they are but that crown she's not going to find that XD And looking back on it it was kind of stupid of the king of Vail to like make it obvious that that's where the relics were I think before us just probably had them hidden and different places and Salem just couldn't find them really unless the grim not attracted to where they were But in another hand it was smart to put it under a school there are there will be countless amounts of people who are trained warriors to fight grim and evil forces to stop her and gather small groups to covertly fight Salem that's where he was actually smart 3:48 It wasn't in a Reddit q&a I believe someone asked about how the maidens and hair at the power so fast and no how to use them the maidens powers and how they reincarnate from women the women are just an extension of Oz is curves since it was originally his magic that helped make the maidens to begin with and that's why they keep reincarnating and so when the maidens dye their knowledge and muscle reflexes reincarnate into the next user and that next user uses those abilities in their own unique way that's why instead of flying or floating like Amber did send her shoots fire out her feet, so she can stay floating and unlike with fria Penny doesn't use when to float she kind of copy cinder and uses like a fire floating thing which I think is stupid,and winter did it best with the winter maiden powers where she floats in the air with like snoflo Ting around her so the maidens like with us cuz I spend mentioned back in Volume 5 when he was talking with the others about his merge that eventually Oscar will inherit all his memories and his muscle memory and reflexes it's the same with the maidens they just inherited faster even though they've lived through multiple lifetimes they're not taking on that Martin's personality I think if it wasn't for the fact that the merge has it we're both personality slowly become one I think Oscar would have been doing magic and a lot more already but since the merger is almost complete he is getting more muscle memory and reflexes and stuff we seen that throughout the past 3:53 When they show winter and Penny in that void place exchanging the powers with each other I believe they're doing that because they want to show a parallel kind of to what happened when ozma met the God of light they're showing us this moment between Windsor and Penny because I believe we're going to get a similar moment with Oscar and ozpin/ozma When the merge is completing will see a moment like with winter and Penny wear with Oscar and aahs they'll meet face-to-face finally and they'll talk and I don't know what will happen I don't think we'll see Oscar or ozpin fading away like we do see with Penny will just see them both glowing and I think maybe fading both of them at the same time and then glowing together at once and becoming one being I believe that's what's going to happen with the merge and I think that's what this moment was for But when it comes to the merge I'm not sure whose personality will be in control a lot of people think like towards the last few volumes will see oz in full control of oscars body and then at the end of the show will see Oscar get his life back and eyes will pass on finally. But I'm one of the few people who think that Oz will be the one to pass away and it'll be Oscar in complete control
@joeycisneros9484
Жыл бұрын
How is it even speculation lol the 4 daughters of Salem and Ozma were the original maidens. That’s like blatantly obvious
@chrisschultz8598
Жыл бұрын
Don't overanalyze. RWBY is about the characters, their relationships and their interactions. So far as I can tell, plot and plot backstory takes second place. The writers will work out the Maidens and their powers when it becomes necessary.
@kidprime6863
6 ай бұрын
That's par with the course of this show: "If the plot doesn't demand it, it can't be done." But even character arcs, relationships and interactions get glossed by the plot.
@GemmyDeery
Жыл бұрын
new vid let's gooooooooooooo
@mentalist7772
6 ай бұрын
Monty Oum apparently had the Maiden thing all planned out but since RT has admitted to abandoning most of his original plans it seems like they don't know what to do with the Maidens as that original plotline is something they can't do now due to the changes. On another note, i think one thing limiting the Maidens power is a lack of knowledge and understanding on how magic works and how to use it.
@kidprime6863
6 ай бұрын
Maybe if they had gone with his original plans for the Maidens, we would've gotten a proper explanation on how their powers work. And probably would've explained all of those drawbacks that they have that's been bugging me for years. Why do they necessarily have to die in order for them to transfer their powers to someone? Does the transfer drain their life-force or something? Are they bound to the powers? What if the Maiden doesn't want to be the Maiden anymore? What if they just wanna go back to their normal lives? You can't force them. Why do their powers go to woman who kill them? Is there some kind of rule that states "if you kill a Maiden, you will be deemed worthy to wield them"? If so that's a stupid rule considering the goal is to protect the Relics not have them fall into the wrong hands. Can a single host carry all four powers and be able to handle them? If not, will they self-destruct or become destructively insane? And finally, how come no Maiden before Cinder came along has ever thought about using the powers for personal gain? It raises too many questions than answers. As far as I'm concerned, were a rushed and incomplete production on Ozma's part. And they're comparable to a Red Lantern power ring from DC in terms of being bound to them. As well as the Siren powers from Borderlands due the "Transfer upon Death" thing and the Vaults.
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